I’m so sick of the copy paste. China has its own domestic fighters for top tier. I get the copy paste at low tier for it but come on. Giving them a mirage is like giving the US or Russia someone else’s top tier aircraft. So dumb.
What?? China is in no way on par with Russia or USA. Yes they have their own stuff but they aren’t enough to fill gaps. Apart from j10 and j11 there’s no other jet they have that has full air to air capabilities. Plus it doesn’t get gnd armaments
If they do this kind of bullshit they might even just add the f22. Cause it went into service in 2005 whilst the j10 went into service in 2006. Soooooo Gaijin when?
for the Mirage 2000D RMV, there is an issue with the canon pod, it's the DEFA 553 but it should be the DEFA 791 (the cannon from the Rafale) i think it's nice from gaijin to give the MICA EM to the 2000D because he would have pretty much suffered without them, atleast the time to wait for the MICA IR (also, i feel like the MICA good a silent buff since he don't woble, but also a silent nerf since he strangely lose A LOT of speed for a missile that has less drag than the AIM120)
MICA most certainly has more drag than the AIM 120 and similar profile missiles like, Darter, and PL 12. Thrust vectoring also turns any missile into an air brake when it utilizes their thrusters. Regardless if it's a MICA, R73, AIM 9x etc.
The mirage 2000 D variant use antelope radars (V for the R1, 50 for the RMV). This radar is not meant to guide radar missiles. The Mirage 2000 D have only ever had 2 missiles pylons. I say, remove the 6 MICA EM and add 2 MICA IR is a worthy trade. All in all, and this is impressive, but the devs managed to get everything new on the RMV wrong. The pod should be the Thalia's. The gun pod is incorrect. The radar is incorrect. The A2A load out is incorrect.
yeah I don't even understand why they would add it now it doesn't add anything new since most of the upgrade it is supposed bring are too advanced for the game ; I really hate how they are treating the mirage it makes me realy worried for how they will handle the rafale tbh
@@wirdens7579 This is still dev server. Some of these things might change so wait until after the update to complain. Really the only thing that matters right now is the targeting pod. The ground attack capabilities is the main reason for adding the jet into the game so they need to get that right. No one is going to care whether the air to air loadout is accurate right now since it's unlikely they will give us MICA IR. When MICA IR gets put into the game they will change it. For now they will give us an inaccurate air to air loadout for balancing purposes. They did the exact same thing when the earlier versions of the M2k were put in the game.
Don't forget the fact that this is a game . Realism is good at all but it can be bad . Maybe it can't take 6 micas in real life , but if there are no micas there will be no appeal for it compared to the 5f at the end of the day is a game. When you have f15-16s with 6 mavericks and up too-
@@marshall-yo5ho they only really have the leopard and since that’s not even unique to them anymore, it’s becoming an annoyance that everyone’s saying they should be grateful when they don’t even have the best leopards anymore😂
Can they give Germany anything that’s not complete shit; I’m god damn sick of copy pastes that have nothing unique or interesting about them, none of them are even particularly good grinders. Tornado assta 1 > tornado wtd 61 Mig-21 bis-sau> mig-21 lazur-m Su-22m4> su-22m4 wtd 61 Are they absolutely joking with us
"New premium for germany" and a f'ing su-22💀 i dont think thats what the german players have been asking or what they needed goojin........ Gaijin is asking for a blitzkrieg 🤣💀
German players get the best of both east and West and they still complain, I swear nothing but a euro fighter at this point will satisfy German players.
@@oz314 Exactly. Sick of not having a top tier for 4 (soon 5) major patches already, because the damn Luftwaffe is broke. Germany doesn't really have the "best" of both East and West, outside of maybe the CL-13B Mk.6, Lim-5P or the MiG-29G (who are utterly powercreeped nowadays).
Super excited for the mirage! I grinder out China air recently due to having the A5 and J7 in the tree for a while but not having used them much in the past
IRL the GBU-54 is interesting. The laser only updates the GPS position that the bomb will fly to. it does not track a laser like a PW-II weapon does. So, you would drop the GBU-54, it would fly a non-ballistic path, then when it pitches down and the laser is within the FOV of the seeker, it will get the info from the laser and updates the bombs internal navigation unit with the new co-ordinate. It is not really very suitable to movers due to needing the constantly adjust it's flight path and losing energy that way
i was really hoping that the new mirage would get some new ordinance, like everything that the new mirage has is already on the mirage 5f. kinda underdelivered with this
I have a problem with the AV-8S. Even though it is an aircraft that I love and will buy, I cannot understand how Gaijin describes it as "early" and deprives it of the AIM-9L. "Early" can never be because it was the last iteration of the AV-8S and I highly doubt that in the short operational life they had in Thailand any major modifications were made. It is a completely artificial distinction for the game. On the other hand, they have already removed the AIM-9G and replaced them with the AIM-9P (as IRL), but the -9L is still missing.
Prob cause there's a tech tree variant coming or for "balancing reasons". Tbf it's the same problem with the F-4F which did not get Sparrows because the Luftwaffe thought the 9L was good enough (I still remember the pain Spading it 😂) if the F-4F does get the 9Ls, it will be uptiered to planes carrying good SARH missiles which would be the same case for the AV-8S. It was also leaked that ASEAN countries will be added to the Japanese TT and Japan does need more vehicles to the air tree as the only thing left would be experimental X-2 (premium?) and the F-2.
It probably so they can do a late one and give it a lower BR, the harrier at 9.7 is a really good grinder and it will be very nice for the Japanese tree just like the AV-8A for the US
I find it funny they’re finishing up the Osa-AKM when it’s still wrong. The Osa-AKM has the 9M33A3 missile which they have, the issue is they’re 15km in range, but in the dev server they say 10.3km range which would be the Osa-AK with 9M33A2
I can't wait to grind this mirage, but if it ends up getting micas even though it never carried them but I cant get 229s on my f-15E that will be just criminal.
All of this incredible ground ordnance and still no meaningful air to ground gameplay in ARB. Makes me sad that the snail won’t spend the resources to rejuvenate this mode. It has a ton of potential but top tier ARB is so boring right now.
Gaijin is a joke when its come to modern Mirage, there loadout are pure fiction its so far off from real life. It's even more sad when you look at the bug report
Honestly the SU-22 is just another sell tactic but it’s a nice addition for base bombers, in MY OPINION it’s better than the Tornado. We all know there’s going to be premiums anyway so to have a premium SU-22 instead of a Tornado on my team is nice. 11.0 with 6 R60MKs and a good bomb load is pretty impressive.
(Mirage 2000-5Ei) Oh. So I'm gonna eat my words. Nice. 'Though I disagree with the decision to allow wingtip MICA carriage on Mirage 2000Ei. I don't think ROCAF bought the pylons necessary to do so in real-life. I'd happily accept it being less well-armed than the French one wherever realistic.
@matawg, could you plz do us all a favor and show off where the planes your talking about is being put in the techtree´s ? you didnt do that for the French techtree-Mirage from what i saw.
People forget the Chinese tech tree is not juste for communist China but also Taiwan, the Mirage 2000-5 should have come at one point or another anyway, just as the F-CK-1 or the F-16C block 70 will come to the Chinese tech tree. It's not like Taiwan is a subtree of China, some ranks literally only have ROCAF aircrafts. But it could be arguable if the idian Mirage 2000-5 was added to the British tech tree.
Mirage 2000D RMV can't fire radar missiles so EM makes even less sense, just give it 2 MICA IR with copy paste magic 2 seeker parameters. Also no AASM ?
I dont know who is the dev for germany tech tree but all i know is that he should be fired, other nations keeps getting more jets more fox3, meanwhile the devs responsible for germany said ya lets copy paste the same plane that we already have and make it premium, instead of adding a fucking good jet that has fox3 (Correct if i am wrong, did i hear that the mirage that is coming didnt have mica em(fox3) but the dev is giving it the fox 3 anyway, because if that is true why dont they give mig29g fox3 too? )
People are claiming it didn't have MICA-EM with no proof, but even if it didn't it can easily carry them. The MiG-29G is physically incapable of using fox-3s. There is a massive difference. Name a plane that can come to Germany that isn't F-18 or Eurofighter that could carry fox-3s. Hint, there isn't one. And they cannot just throw you guys those planes with no competition for everyone else.
its a 3600X cpu, 32Gb RAM and a 5700XT as GPU, planning to upgrade it tho, I want something that can run 1080p with everything rt etc, so maybe a 4070 super or something like that idk yet
@@honeybadgerbomb4469 I also have france top tier and I do not want the uniqueness of it being ruined it should be removed they have the J11A and J10A already this is un needed and unnecessary
@@anti_shirk2592 Honestly idc about which tach tree planes are in. But i say we should matchmake after origin country of the aircraft, not its tech tree, so that sim stays bearable
that's a long ass test server wtf... and *edit* that's gotta be one of the worst premium jets ever added to the game lmfao. Who in their right mind would pick up that 22 instead of the Tornado which nearly every CC loves to hate on? Talk about useless filler just so Germany gets something...
I’m so sick of the copy paste. And china has its own domestic fighters for top tier. I get the copy paste at low tier for it but come on. Giving them a mirage is like giving the US or Russia someone else’s top tier aircraft. So dumb.
I’m so sick of the copy paste. China has its own domestic fighters for top tier. I get the copy paste at low tier for it but come on. Giving them a mirage is like giving the US or Russia someone else’s top tier aircraft. So dumb.
I mean, idk. They have a taiwan tree
What?? China is in no way on par with Russia or USA. Yes they have their own stuff but they aren’t enough to fill gaps. Apart from j10 and j11 there’s no other jet they have that has full air to air capabilities. Plus it doesn’t get gnd armaments
Guys, Indigenous Defense Fighter will come during Christmas, be patient.
If they do this kind of bullshit they might even just add the f22. Cause it went into service in 2005 whilst the j10 went into service in 2006. Soooooo Gaijin when?
Everyone was expecting Taiwan's M2K to eventually come since the first m2k got added.
Wow now even the mirage is gonna have mirror matchups at this point just give every vehicle to every nation for shits and giggles
I know, sht is so fckin annoying, every battle now ground or air is just a mirror match, completely killing the uniqueness of different nations
cant wait till russia gets a leo 2a7🤡
@@phil1278 a t90a got leaked for America a bit ago, doomed
@@phil1278 damn not only i have to fight the devil himself, but also the devil in me. damn.
Bro literally one other nation got a Mirage why are you crying so much
The december update is gonna finally be here in February....
Man does not sleep 🫡
Immigrant mentality
WTD61 is no squadron. It's the Bundeswehr Technical Center for Aircraft and Aeronautical Equipment.
for the Mirage 2000D RMV, there is an issue with the canon pod, it's the DEFA 553 but it should be the DEFA 791 (the cannon from the Rafale) i think it's nice from gaijin to give the MICA EM to the 2000D because he would have pretty much suffered without them, atleast the time to wait for the MICA IR (also, i feel like the MICA good a silent buff since he don't woble, but also a silent nerf since he strangely lose A LOT of speed for a missile that has less drag than the AIM120)
Yep, and the rafale's gun have both higher velocity and rate of fire.
@ yeah so I hope it will be changed
MICA most certainly has more drag than the AIM 120 and similar profile missiles like, Darter, and PL 12. Thrust vectoring also turns any missile into an air brake when it utilizes their thrusters. Regardless if it's a MICA, R73, AIM 9x etc.
@@InterstellarTaco Not for bvr... Vector thrust does not activate if you are aiming at a distant target.
The mirage 2000 D variant use antelope radars (V for the R1, 50 for the RMV). This radar is not meant to guide radar missiles. The Mirage 2000 D have only ever had 2 missiles pylons. I say, remove the 6 MICA EM and add 2 MICA IR is a worthy trade.
All in all, and this is impressive, but the devs managed to get everything new on the RMV wrong. The pod should be the Thalia's. The gun pod is incorrect. The radar is incorrect. The A2A load out is incorrect.
yeah I don't even understand why they would add it now it doesn't add anything new since most of the upgrade it is supposed bring are too advanced for the game ; I really hate how they are treating the mirage it makes me realy worried for how they will handle the rafale tbh
@@wirdens7579 This is still dev server. Some of these things might change so wait until after the update to complain. Really the only thing that matters right now is the targeting pod. The ground attack capabilities is the main reason for adding the jet into the game so they need to get that right. No one is going to care whether the air to air loadout is accurate right now since it's unlikely they will give us MICA IR. When MICA IR gets put into the game they will change it. For now they will give us an inaccurate air to air loadout for balancing purposes. They did the exact same thing when the earlier versions of the M2k were put in the game.
Don't forget the fact that this is a game . Realism is good at all but it can be bad . Maybe it can't take 6 micas in real life , but if there are no micas there will be no appeal for it compared to the 5f at the end of the day is a game. When you have f15-16s with 6 mavericks and up too-
- 4 aim 120 s I don't think giving the mirage 2kd rmv something like that it's game breaking or something
@@wolf-7208”its a hecking game” is a ludicrous excuse when so much of gaijins philosophy revolves around adding realistic vehicles
And the murica mains say "Germany does not suffer"
2x shitty premium and an overdelayed F4F ice.
suffer in air, but not ground
@@marshall-yo5hoMeanwhile, Sweden has the same Leopards(but better, ≈3 2A7) and good aviation
@@marshall-yo5ho they only really have the leopard and since that’s not even unique to them anymore, it’s becoming an annoyance that everyone’s saying they should be grateful when they don’t even have the best leopards anymore😂
Can they give Germany anything that’s not complete shit; I’m god damn sick of copy pastes that have nothing unique or interesting about them, none of them are even particularly good grinders.
Tornado assta 1 > tornado wtd 61
Mig-21 bis-sau> mig-21 lazur-m
Su-22m4> su-22m4 wtd 61
Are they absolutely joking with us
germany air suffers 😂
At least the Lazur doesn't have the ugly pod under it I guess
Hopefully the swiss f 18 will come on december and germany will finally have a somewhat proper top tier aircraft.
@@martinwellhoefer9159 hopefully
@@theironwolf1871It barely affects the performance of the aircraft. Its practically unnoticable.
"New premium for germany" and a f'ing su-22💀 i dont think thats what the german players have been asking or what they needed goojin........ Gaijin is asking for a blitzkrieg 🤣💀
German players get the best of both east and West and they still complain, I swear nothing but a euro fighter at this point will satisfy German players.
@@oz314no then they’ll complain that they need tranche 4 already
@@oz314 best of the east
>su22
LMAO
@@oz314 Exactly. Sick of not having a top tier for 4 (soon 5) major patches already, because the damn Luftwaffe is broke. Germany doesn't really have the "best" of both East and West, outside of maybe the CL-13B Mk.6, Lim-5P or the MiG-29G (who are utterly powercreeped nowadays).
Go take the f4f ice into air rb and tell me how it is
@@oz314
And ofc this mirage have normal and legit amount of countuermeasures, but fighter one, still missing a lot of cm, cool.
This one is missing about 200 CMs
Cool, i just finished grinding the entire belgian line, time for more grinding
Love the Mirage 2000EI FROM TAIWAN!!!
Now, I'm waiting for Legacy Hornets and Indigenous Defense Fighter for this Christmas.
I’m happy you guys got a plane but I’m pissed commies got it
LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOO MIRAGE 2K RMV LETS GOOOOOO
Yet again, Germany gets shafted in air
Super excited for the mirage! I grinder out China air recently due to having the A5 and J7 in the tree for a while but not having used them much in the past
As someone who has top tier China but not anything in France I see the Mirage as an absolute W, now I don’t have to grind France just for the Mirage 😊
Why the fuck is the J-10 smack dab in the middle Taiwanese subtree line?
They need to have a multi role line , air to air line, strike line, and Taiwanese Line
IRL the GBU-54 is interesting.
The laser only updates the GPS position that the bomb will fly to. it does not track a laser like a PW-II weapon does.
So, you would drop the GBU-54, it would fly a non-ballistic path, then when it pitches down and the laser is within the FOV of the seeker, it will get the info from the laser and updates the bombs internal navigation unit with the new co-ordinate. It is not really very suitable to movers due to needing the constantly adjust it's flight path and losing energy that way
Can Gaijin just get the correct countermeasures on the Mirage 2000 5F before they add this thing because its still screwed up
Oe
what’s wrong with them?
the countermeasures, that’s is
i was really hoping that the new mirage would get some new ordinance, like everything that the new mirage has is already on the mirage 5f. kinda underdelivered with this
Woooow "new" premium strike aircraft... exactly what we needed
Now im glad i grinded france
I have a problem with the AV-8S. Even though it is an aircraft that I love and will buy, I cannot understand how Gaijin describes it as "early" and deprives it of the AIM-9L. "Early" can never be because it was the last iteration of the AV-8S and I highly doubt that in the short operational life they had in Thailand any major modifications were made. It is a completely artificial distinction for the game. On the other hand, they have already removed the AIM-9G and replaced them with the AIM-9P (as IRL), but the -9L is still missing.
Prob cause there's a tech tree variant coming or for "balancing reasons". Tbf it's the same problem with the F-4F which did not get Sparrows because the Luftwaffe thought the 9L was good enough (I still remember the pain Spading it 😂) if the F-4F does get the 9Ls, it will be uptiered to planes carrying good SARH missiles which would be the same case for the AV-8S.
It was also leaked that ASEAN countries will be added to the Japanese TT and Japan does need more vehicles to the air tree as the only thing left would be experimental X-2 (premium?) and the F-2.
It probably so they can do a late one and give it a lower BR, the harrier at 9.7 is a really good grinder and it will be very nice for the Japanese tree just like the AV-8A for the US
It's much better at 9.7 with aim-9g, than at 10.7 with two aim-9l
@-..----.--.-... sure, but an AV-8S with -9G never exists irl...
AESA rework (to make it actually work) in the future!
If you dont like mika on mirage I will tell you this. Mika says: Relax, take it eaaaaaaaaasy
I find it funny they’re finishing up the Osa-AKM when it’s still wrong. The Osa-AKM has the 9M33A3 missile which they have, the issue is they’re 15km in range, but in the dev server they say 10.3km range which would be the Osa-AK with 9M33A2
I love how everyone else but Italys Tornado will get something this update
I can't wait to grind this mirage, but if it ends up getting micas even though it never carried them but I cant get 229s on my f-15E that will be just criminal.
The ROCAF Mirage 2000-5EI most definitely carried the MICAs. That was basically the entire point they bought it.
How do you know it never carried them? It's a very, very recent 2023 mid-life upgrade...
Holy sht this update is hugeee😫
i think adding Mica IR insted of mica EM now to test the next-gen ir missile and they are only 2 so it want be that overpowered
That would be way too strong... A MICA IR is even better at short distances than the EM since it is made for it.
Premium Su-22m4 at 11.3 is funny when you have Mig-21bis at 11.0
All of this incredible ground ordnance and still no meaningful air to ground gameplay in ARB. Makes me sad that the snail won’t spend the resources to rejuvenate this mode. It has a ton of potential but top tier ARB is so boring right now.
W update for the French
J11's should be folded and J10 be put in the PLAAF line.
Hopefully they will add some of this stuff to the gripen aswell, the GBU49 and 39
Nobody talking about the M247 getting shell ejection :(
Hi Mat this was a really good video I really like it continue like that. Now I just have a question when is the firebird update gonna be released?
I have a feeling that is going to be around the 12th of nov, during that week between Tuesday and Wednesday
They should really add the South African Cheetah JET
This guy does not miss😅
I'm still waiting to see if that "end of the line vehicle" for the US is still coming
Watching competitive arb nations get more even more competitive jets hurts to see
Gaijin is a joke when its come to modern Mirage, there loadout are pure fiction its so far off from real life. It's even more sad when you look at the bug report
Honestly the SU-22 is just another sell tactic but it’s a nice addition for base bombers, in MY OPINION it’s better than the Tornado. We all know there’s going to be premiums anyway so to have a premium SU-22 instead of a Tornado on my team is nice. 11.0 with 6 R60MKs and a good bomb load is pretty impressive.
November 6th is my birthday NO WAYY
My guess is that the Germany's premium Tornado will be removed.
(Mirage 2000-5Ei)
Oh.
So I'm gonna eat my words. Nice.
'Though I disagree with the decision to allow wingtip MICA carriage on Mirage 2000Ei. I don't think ROCAF bought the pylons necessary to do so in real-life. I'd happily accept it being less well-armed than the French one wherever realistic.
Nato RWR nerf.
It's bad and unrealistic.
What about it?
Every nations RWR was nerfed.
what about Russian flight models being nerfed because you guys whining
@matawg, could you plz do us all a favor and show off where the planes your talking about is being put in the techtree´s ? you didnt do that for the French techtree-Mirage from what i saw.
I miss when the F14 was top tier 🥲
I have lost all hope for the x4 to come
Did you try to click the man near the cake?
People forget the Chinese tech tree is not juste for communist China but also Taiwan, the Mirage 2000-5 should have come at one point or another anyway, just as the F-CK-1 or the F-16C block 70 will come to the Chinese tech tree. It's not like Taiwan is a subtree of China, some ranks literally only have ROCAF aircrafts.
But it could be arguable if the idian Mirage 2000-5 was added to the British tech tree.
yeah for sure! It just took too much time, I was starting to believe they might add it as a premium etc
Better than one is twice Mirage🎉
Mirage 2000D RMV can't fire radar missiles so EM makes even less sense, just give it 2 MICA IR with copy paste magic 2 seeker parameters.
Also no AASM ?
I dont know who is the dev for germany tech tree but all i know is that he should be fired, other nations keeps getting more jets more fox3, meanwhile the devs responsible for germany said ya lets copy paste the same plane that we already have and make it premium, instead of adding a fucking good jet that has fox3
(Correct if i am wrong, did i hear that the mirage that is coming didnt have mica em(fox3) but the dev is giving it the fox 3 anyway, because if that is true why dont they give mig29g fox3 too? )
People are claiming it didn't have MICA-EM with no proof, but even if it didn't it can easily carry them. The MiG-29G is physically incapable of using fox-3s. There is a massive difference.
Name a plane that can come to Germany that isn't F-18 or Eurofighter that could carry fox-3s. Hint, there isn't one. And they cannot just throw you guys those planes with no competition for everyone else.
Su-22 kinda cool as premium, but no stike aircraft for top tier :c
A10C have a bug that can crash the dev server
You cant carry 6 AGM65D and the TGP
Does anyone know how to get all the vehicles on the dev??? Like do I have to play a ton?
I don't think 2000D RMV has the right targeting pod, it usually uses TALIOS everywhere I've seen
Does anyone know what happened to the rocket propelled bombs the f117 was meant to have btw?
Perhaps Gaijin thought it would be oVeRpOwErEd.
China will grow LARGER!🗣️🗣️
time to leak some more classified military documents on why the mirage doesn't carry micas lmfao
when update will be live?
Mat what's your pc spec?
its a 3600X cpu, 32Gb RAM and a 5700XT as GPU, planning to upgrade it tho, I want something that can run 1080p with everything rt etc, so maybe a 4070 super or something like that idk yet
Does the F-117 get its stealth?
Mirage for china, what a disrespect for France
Indian mirage for UK? Would be nice
I would honestly rather have Brimstones with F&F capabilities. Doesn’t have to be LOAL. Just something more than a longer ranged Hellfire.
No.
@@Ben_Kimber that’s prob never going to happen 💀
Si does that mean that in the future, uk will have the Rafale (nice they will be able to compete because the eurotyphoon is 🤮🤮)
I reckon the patch will drop on 11th
please no......
I think goyijin is losing it. I feel like they will add F22 in next couple updates or something..
So no Atlas Cheetah 😢
I respect the grind but please get enough sleep man
update when
I hope the f11A nd F can be folded
when will this update drop LOL
why tf does germany have the Ljdam before the US??
I need mor scooters
War thunder player try not to complain about everything challenge *impossible*
Why so many Copy-Paste planes? I mean tanks need a lineup but planes? Planes do not need a lineup, so there is no reason for copy and paste aircraft.
bruh still no new plane for germany
So update on 6th?
prob on the 12th onwards
@ ok
finally, Taiwanese mirage
I've been waiting for that dorito long time hahah
thankyou for your information mat 😄
I wish the Su-34 received the Damoclès pod
Ahahahaha a Bundeswehr Su-22 please more fictional aircrafts how about a german F-22 Raptor.
China shouldn’t have a mirage
the chinese mirage should be removed
I main France and say; Let them have their fun. The M2k is a fantastic and fun fighter, 2 nations sharing a plane is entirely okay
@@honeybadgerbomb4469 I also have france top tier and I do not want the uniqueness of it being ruined it should be removed they have the J11A and J10A already this is un needed and unnecessary
@@anti_shirk2592 Honestly idc about which tach tree planes are in. But i say we should matchmake after origin country of the aircraft, not its tech tree, so that sim stays bearable
@anti_shirk2592 Its just 1 jet though, and its worse than the 5F anyways
@honeybadgerbomb4469 In ARB isnt worse.
that's a long ass test server wtf... and *edit* that's gotta be one of the worst premium jets ever added to the game lmfao. Who in their right mind would pick up that 22 instead of the Tornado which nearly every CC loves to hate on? Talk about useless filler just so Germany gets something...
The M2K D-RMV should have the Mica-IR without datalink. Not the MICA-EM. And certainly NOT on those hardpoints.
i was the 500th like
Copy paste fest
I was grinding the Entire. French. Techtree for the m2k-5f and now you are telling me it's here in the Chinese TT which I have? :(
I’m so sick of the copy paste. And china has its own domestic fighters for top tier. I get the copy paste at low tier for it but come on. Giving them a mirage is like giving the US or Russia someone else’s top tier aircraft. So dumb.
So 5F is multirole, 5EI is fighter
@@rodneycook3674The fighter itself is true to the Taiwanese sub tree for China
German Mains:"First Time?"
@@Polish204-3Well to be fair, almost every german jet except for the tornado and eurofighter are foreign planes.