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I had a lot of fun in this one, big thank you Skimatic for helping out with this video. I thought we had to show the Spitfire some love since we kind of wrecked it with the F-22 a few videos ago, Thanks for watching guys, Much Love.
I wonder what wouuld happen if you did the same with the bf 109
IMO, the first generation Miata is the closest you can get to a spitfire in relatively modern cars.
F-22 Raptor VS Ten North Korean MIG-29's BVR
bro, do Mig-31 vs F-35 pleaseeeee
F-35 VS Mig-31 in BVR sound like fun
Did not expect to see a Spitfire kill an F-16 with a Fox-2 today.
Underrated comment, get this person more likes!
Now we know that we need older fighters to fight 5th gen in dogfights.
That took me way to long to understand
@@christianespinosa9999 it’s just for fun…..in reality, modern jet fighters do not engage in up close “guns range” dogfights…like EXCEPTIONALLY rare….in a close in one circle turn fight, next to nothing would be better than a Spitfire….
In reality, any of those fighters downs the Spitfire from BVR with a Fox-3…..as soon as it’s a turn fight, it’s all over for the jets unless the Spit pilot makes a mistake
@@fatitankeris6327 Iron Eagle . . . what? 4? 5? A Rag tag squadron of Spits and Mustangs hands some Su-57s their asses!
"Can you imagine a spitfire with sidewinders on it?"
Well, you got a kill with a sidewinder, after all...
I've been saying they need 'upgraded' warbirds for awhile now.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 since 1950s?
@@digisuboob
No, but only because I'm not that old. 😅
Why carry a sidewinder, when the enemy carries it for you XD
Lol the thought of Spitfire being remade and implemented with modern stuff really good idea. BVR and guided bomb lmao
So, what did we learn today?
Every plane in existence is obsolete and the spitfire is the best aircraft for dogfighting.
Not really because the raptor is able compete with the spitfire but for props yes the spitfire is the best dogfighter who can say this maverick sayed it all comes down to the pilot in box.
@@delissamurphy9007 Well the Spitfire is the second best thing to the F-22. Good enough for me!
@Essinse no the problem is speed, a jet aircraft would snipe a spitfire with AA missiles or just use speed to evade until an air to air solution is available. no reason to dogfight a fighter with only guns and a prop. it makes more sense with something like an A-6,A-10,Su-25, or god forbid a F-117
Reformer noises intensify
Draken can kill it
The Spitfire, 6th gen air superiority fighter
Truly the best fighter aircraft.
The F/A-XX is actually gonna turn out to be the Spitfire
Everyone give a round of applause for Skimatic for being the punching bag today. Have a great weekend and safe Fourth of July!
👏 Thanks for helping with a hilarious video.
Bruh the 4th is over 2 days
@@dryaldibread2327 I bet you're fun at the parties, lol
@@TimberwolfCY Accountant?
I can just imagine the RAF watching this, taking notes and putting back Spitfires back in action
The RAF ironically removed the Mauser cannons on their Typhoons for a period of time (can’t remember if they were reinstalled) citing they were useless in modern dogfights.
The home guard be like:
@@listeed1995 I believe the f4 phantom didn't have cannons as well
@@Piemasta9000 and now the F-35 also don't have cannons
@@Piemasta9000 Only the F-4C.
I'm half expecting an outtake when one guy BVR kills the Spitfire.
That would be dope a little blooper real at the end
That would be perfect just a rage shot
Chooses Mig-31
@@air-headedaviator1805 hahahahahahha perfect!!!!
SW is right about to go into his lead-in…
And like two seconds in
…sreeEEOOOOOOMMM
*KILLED IN ACTION*
Spitfire has always been the aircraft that I wanted to own like a car, and fly every day. such subtle curves, a classic beauty!
It's like sports cars from the 60s and early 70s that were designed to look good because looking good was all that mattered.
@@erics8192 How does that equate to one of the better fighters in WWII?
It is a truly beautiful aircraft
It's like an E-type Jag of the skies
@@erics8192 that’s one of the dumbest things I’ve heard about any WWII fighter plane.
the fact that you can detonate a sidewinder is a small detail that id never think id see but its insanely cool that ED has modeled this. i keep getting amazed by this sim
Tbh I doubt that's what happened. If the sidewinder had exploded, there would have been a much bigger, y'know, explosion.
I think there was probably just some kind of desync or whatever.
It's not modeled he just shot the wing
I guess that will be possible when the damage model comes to the jets though.
@@wurfyy Not necessarily - the motor could probably detonate without setting off the warhead.
@@wurfyy the warhead on the sidewinders isn’t very big, they would have to be pretty close to do damage. That said what usually does the damage versus aircraft is the shrapnel produced and not the explosion. It definitely seems like the sidewinder exploded.
2:24 who knew spitfire had fox-2 capability
I can’t prove it but …
…based on this shot, i now think GS shot JFK.
Pierre Spey would see this and be like "see, we don't need radar in planes"
I was totally expecting to see an F-22 as his final attempt to win against the Spitfire
"Can you imagine a Spitfire with sidewinders?"
Somebody, please, make this a thing 😬
Iron Eagle III intensifies.
With 9x’s it would be unstoppable!
They would hit the propeller anytime
so... a Super Tucano?
@@AirShark95 yeah and we all know how powerful it is lol 😂
The sidewinder kill was epic
My dad and oldest brother were in the air force, my best friend growing up, his dad was from Britain. We went to so many air shows in the 90s when I was a kid where they had p51's or spitfires there. Such a legendary plane.
2:35 breaking news: Spitfire shoots F-16 down with an air-to-air missile
There is something timeless about the Spit. SUCH a good looking aircraft. Those wings... mmmm MM!!
Being British I absolutely love how well the spitfire has performed in these fights!! It's a beautiful aircraft!
Technically in a proper tail chasing dogfight the Spitfire beats literally any fighter on earth, the only thing that gets close would be Eurofighters because of how manoeuvrable they are.
@@ripoutyourintestines5099 it would have to be a jet with better low speed maneuverability
Like the raptor.
The Euro fighter is more high speed agility.
"Only the spirit of attack, born in a brave heart, will bring success to any fighter aircraft, no matter how highly developed it may be."
- Adolf Galland, 104 victories
"The quality of the crate matters little. Success depends upon the man who sits in it."
- Manfred von Richthofen, 80 victories
My bro Manfred really said 'It's Not The Plane It's The Pilot'
Manfred von "never stopped flexing on them betas" Richtofen
until its an F-22 pilot that just needs to press a button to launch a fox 3 against a 4th gen that hasn't even spotted him. Skill and training is definitely relevant but there is a point where an advantage becomes so much that your skill is irrelevant.
So I guess if the enemy ever runs out of air-to-air missiles, bring out the Spitfires...
Did he deploy the flares like a smokescreen? 6:10 That could be a neat trick
I think that is correct that’s what he was trying to do, so I couldn’t see thru the smoke and flares and stuff
Also, spinning
It's like racing and turning on your windshield washer. 😂
@@GrowlingSidewinder it seemed to make it harder to see your own tracers and use them to adjust your aim?
@@GrowlingSidewinder Worked like a charm.
Back in the early 1980s I spent some of my apprenticeship rebuilding a flyable Spitfire Mk VIII and a static Spitfire Mk XIV. The Spitfire Mk VIII is currently at Temora NSW Australia and the Spitfire Mk XIV was sold and built into the RR232 city of Exeter Spitfire in the UK.
Bro defeated all 4 gen fighters with just a spitfire
I was surprised the A-10 didn't make an appearance. Would have been my choice.
I was waiting and waiting for an A-10 :-(
Or the Apache.
Saw a video of someone pitting an A-10 against a P51, didn’t end well for the hog
Hit the sidewinder... bet the F16 pilot was thinking " WHA? Son-of-a-........!!! Lol. Your new name is `Lucky shot'...
I would love to hear the other pilot in communications to hear their reaction to some of the crazy things that happen in dogfights!
Never seen an F-15 hit with so many rounds in one pass. Surprised both wings, tail unit, cockpit and a pair of engines didn't all fall to earth in separate lumps.
Had no idea you could ignite missiles that way. Pretty cool!
Pretty sure missiles aren't armed until being fired or just prior to being fired, just in case it falls off the pylon or the plane is shot down. So I am not sure the missile exploded there, but it was super cool nonetheless
@@BlyGuy Guess the round could ignite something.
@@BlyGuy Well there are explosive's in it. The fuse is not sharp, but if you shoot it with an explosive 20mm grenade, you will bring your own sharp fuse.
@@BlyGuy full of low explosive propellant though. That would definitely go off with a bang if hit.
Arguably the first AIM-9 Sidewinder kill by a Spitfire
If the jets took the hit and run tactics It may have been a different outcome. They have the power and speed to extend and escape, go high, and do high speed dives at the spit.
Was just about to comment this
They could just go vertical and stay going up until the spitfire stalls out. But this video is just for goofs.
Freaking amazing. I am still waiting to see you flying an F4-U Corsair!
8-min in when you splash that F-15 I laughed so hard I almost pee''d myself...EPIC!
I don’t play DCS and yet I can’t get enough of your videos Man, very entertaining & informative! Cheers 🍻
Same for me!
"Don't want to pull too hard....ooops, pulled too hard". Yup. Did that on the backside of a loop in an SNJ about 15 years ago and it did exactly what your Spit did. Hard 90 Deg snap to the right. Scared the crap out of me. Proof positive that you can stall an airplane in any attitude and any airspeed. A lesson I never forgot. Great video!
I think that was easily one of the more entertaining bandit unknown fights I've seen.
Can you imagine a Spitfire with a Sidewinder "IN" it?
You just saw one...
Can't recall where I heard it from, but I always remember, "the faster plane, when flown right, will never *lose* a well-fought fight."
Reminds of the line from the British pilot in the movie Iron Eagle 3 where he said if there was only a clear sky the Spitfire could out-fly anything in the air.
I'm genuinely impressed. Would be cool to see the contra rotating hotrod version of the Spitfire in DCS.
Imagine rolling up in the sky with the most advanced near black magic shit you can get and then you get dunked on by a peasant fidget spinner with wings.
And that is why you never get into a knife fight... because you have no idea how good some of the peasants are at high aspect deflection.
@@neighbor-j-4737 ye true that as we clearly saw lol Im not dunking on the warbirds though thats the content I'm subbed to GS for I just love the WW2 and WW1 stuff.
A great video because it highlights that the single most important factor in a dogfight is pilot skill and experience.
You did better than these Zero's pilots in "The Final Countdown" movie :)
To be fair, GS knew he was going to fight jets and knew exactly what tactics to employ to beat them. I doubt those poor Japanese pilots were expecting to face F-14s!
@@zachboyd4749 They probably didn’t (lol).
I was humming that soundtrack the whole time! One of my favorite movies ever.
Looked like the 303 hit the sidewinder.. what a shot
I live in the south of England, Boultbee operate their fleet of Spitfires offering joy flights from an airfield less than 2 minutes drive from my house. In the summer I get to sit in the back garden and watch Spitfires fly over several times a day and the sound, the silhouette, and the nostalgia the whole affair induces is something I can't describe in words - it's just something that you can only experience in the flesh. It's nearly US$4,000 for a 30 minute joy ride so I'm squirrelling away a little each week to save up for a flight in a Spit for myself. I've flown in a Hornet, Hawk mk127, Pitts, Chipmunk, Winjeel, Long-EZ, the list is endless, but the Spitfire by far is the aircraft I'm most excited about. I'll try to remember to send you a video of the flight when it happens! Thanks for this video GS, was very entertaining to watch.
This was hilarious, but goes to show what a proper dogfighter the spitfire was.
@Growling Sidewinder I suspect the Spitfire fuel tank capacity vs its consumption gives it massively more playtime than the jet. So even if its strategy is simply to stay alive, the jet winds up being the first to run home. 👍
Spitfires were actually notoriously short range in their day, it probably has shorter flight time than anything else it fought in this video depending on afterburner use
I mean, leaving aside the fact that it would probably receive a Sidewinder to the face 5 miles before the merge
@@dsdy1205 Let’s not quibble over minutia… 😉
I appreciate the Sky Lawnmower v ??? videos. Very entertaining.
When he fired at 1:56 I literally said out loud, "Oh come on, you're not gonna hit it from there."
Seconds later I was eating my hat.
Haha ya well I had some luck on my side there
We need more spitfire content
Literally one of your best videos! Great fun and really interesting!!
Since the 40s and later on, pilots had hard lessons on why you don't dogfight a prop fighter in a jet. Mustangs killed 262s, Corsair killed MiG 15s and Skyraiders killed MiG 17s.
Watching the underside of the F15 hit by .303 like hail...and at first have no effect...reminds me of .303 during WWII....lots of lead, but not much lethal power. Imagine Battle of Britain with ALL Hurricanes and Spits equipped with 4 20mm cannons instead of 8 .303s
they would tear those Messerschmitt's and Focke wolfs to absolute scraps
Looked like the .303s blew up the sidewinder on the F-16. That's kinda nuts.
303 is the dominant air to air weapon in 2 world wars.
those are hispano 20mm cannons not 7mm's tho
the spitfire is one of the most underrated planes in DCS at least. (no one knew about it till GS decided to have fun)
love how many videos you are putting out! they are the highlight of my day.
I sincerely hope you mean in the context of DCS, at the least
@@yaseen157 pleeeeease let this be the case
thank you for the clarification haha, I agree - I had no idea the spitfire had such a turn circle advantage until GS started showing it
The Spitfire could beat the F-22 in a real dogfight
- GSW watcher
@@keithhoss4990 I don't remember anyone saying that... Besides I think we all know that realistically, the spitfire will never make it to a merge versus radar wielding aircraft
honestly, I don't even play DCS, but your dogfight videos got me hooked for 4 hours straight. Love the chill vibe and love your comments. Subscribed
Never bring a hornet to a chess fight.
And the Spit did this with recoil 20mm cannons. Imagine if it had the same firing rate as a vulcan 20mm
20mm good.
GAU-8? Better. 😉
@@baomao7243 naw the Vulcan is faster, and the rounds won't drop as much making the Vulcan a better air to air gun.
@@anthonyortiz6189 i’ve heard it both ways 😉
@@anthonyortiz6189 not sure abt that heavier bullets drop less generally. ofc without taking the ballistic coefficient into account
Ur accuracy and flying on just about every plane is very imressive. Id love to do this with a d-13 dora, or a d-9. Minengeschoss shells will tear jets apart.
Whenever you fly over the Northern Marianas Islands, I watch the scenery more than the opponent, look for landmarks, and get a little homesick! ;-)
Should’ve downloaded a BF-109 and took him into the vertical
spitfire with sidewinders = spitwinder
incredible - the Spitfire is a legendary plane and an object of beauty, but the way it crushes modern planes in dogfights is hard to believe!
How gratifying that must have been; prop plane eating jet planes.
Reminds me of the Venezuela coup videos where they had f16s trying to take out incredibly slow moving recon planes. One video an f16 has to basically come to stall speeds to even get a shot.
OMG, These are great entertainment with the warbirds. Who would’ve ever thought they would stand a chance against modern jet fighters in a dog fight! These videos are the reason I am more focused on WWII dog fighting in DCS than anything else, loving all of these!!👍👍👍
As was once stated - "It is not the plane, it is the pilot"... Good video GS!! Great stuff.
That was 1 in what a billion shot on the F-16 to hit that sidewinder
F-16 pilot: "a spitfire? better bring missiles just in case"
GSW: *shoots the fucking sidewinder*
Honestly dude - your vids are srsly entertaining. Love each and every one. Thx.
I appreciate it thank you
Absolutely awesome gunnery skills...
Five out of five ..
You were on🔥
Impressive!
really loved this video! The thing i enjoyed most is the slow-mo playbacks of kills
That's Growling. That's how flies, growling. You get bored, frustrated, do something stupid and he's got ya.
Also a spitfire with sidewinders? Sounds like an Iron Eagle movie waiting to happen.
Hah. That was literally the plot of Iron Eagle 3.
In a world without BVR and AIM-9X, these WWII aircraft would rule the skies!
actually no, a real pilot would never turnfight a piston prop.
nah. you just need some discipline and go for some boom and zoom tactics on prop planes. energy is life and these spitfires dont got a lot of life in em compared to the younger aircraft we have
so care to explain whole F86 Sabre vs MiG-15 that was kinda a thing back in a day ? ...no missiles there ... just guns
@@deathcharge811 yup... whoever flew the jet was either throwing or didnt know what they were doing
GS DUUUDE, that was a REAL interesting and fun vid, more of this OLS VS NEW stuff, just AWSOME, THANKYOU
7:40 the red Baron is not happy with you
To sum this episode up in four words: why you bully me 😂
Hey GS great vid. All Hail Spitfire!
Several mentions about BVR & missiles having different result. Wonder if you considered Mosquito v modern jet missile test? I read the wooden Mosquito was hard to pick up on radar, be interested to see if plane/missile finds maintaining lock difficult... 🤔
Spitfire with Sidewinders? Good idea
Mom, grandpa is have flashbacks again and now he’s *outside fighting modern aircraft in his Spitfire with a modified fox 2*
tbh I was expecting a 5-0 score but, like, the other way around...
So I guess we can cut the defense budget and just manufacture a bunch of WW2 fighters.
That F-15 kill was brutal, had my literally laughing out loud the whole time you were laying into him xD
Imagine s movie where a WW2 ace get twilight zoned and transported to present day where he is intercepted and has fight for his life in his Spitfire
Dunno man, I think the Spitfire might just be the most beautiful thing you’ll ever see in the sky … man made obviously
I can think of two better looking planes: SR-71 and the B-1
P51 is hard to beat
@@Ganiscol meh. Spitfire wins
@@Saltfly It's a good looking plane. But the air intake destroys its lines.
I'd go with Concorde myself.
These are so fun to watch, and your laugh when you splash them is great
That is definitely something you should try against Athé. Both ways. Especially since he just released a video of a South American dogfight between a prop plane (bronco) and an F-16.
Big fun in the Spitfire I wonder why he didn't come for you with something with Supermaneuverability?
Spitfire: when science goes too far.
Great video, I worked on a spitfire when I was in my early 20's, did corrosion repairs on a bird that had been dragged out of a swamp in Europe and brought to New Zealand
You win the internets *forever*, sir.
spitfire was absolutely crushing it! Great video as always GS! Man...woulda loved to see the SF with sidewinders LOL! prob one of my favorite videos, really love these Bandit unknown series they are amazing!!!
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We need Spitfires with modern missiles and avionics in the Air Force stat.
I would raise your Spit for a Sopwith Camel with 30mm aden cannon pods and maybe a prayer.
bro just discovered turboprop trainers
@@ctykckcktyvc7558 TUCANO STEPS INTO CHAT..
Unironically a great Canada day gift, a lot of spitfires were built close to my home town in Windsor ON
Just recently subbed. Very enjoyable content. Loving all the ww2 vs modern aircraft. Keep it up!
its time to see how long you can stay alive flying the plane that the wright brothers flew, against an F22
Not even a few seconds. The Wright Brother’s plane had virtually no manoeuvrability or speed.
@@DavidPhilipBaldock you think i am blowing GS flying skills a bit out of proportion?
i think that thing flew like 50mph max so probably not very long.
Damn that F-16 shot was brutal
I like it how you need almost half of your ammo to punch a hole into a Fw-190 but 3 bullets and you split a modern jet in two ...
Damn, you're a sniper with that thing.... when ever I use it I need to get so close I can flip the bogeys kill switch before I hit! 😁