A neighbor had a 1972 Mercedes 220 diesel when I was growing up. I remember this routine for him in the winter, but wow did he love that car.:) I liked the exhaust smell!
Mmmm love all these buses hard starting, sputtering and all that diesel smoke. I would really love to be there cranking them and enjoying all that diesel smoke.
Good old Detroit wind on that starter cause you know you only get one good hard roll and holder till she blows off. Every time it hits its making more heat and more heat is one step closer to firing. Stoping allows it to cool down and then ur starting over again. Been starting my 8v71 with the original starter for 20 years that way and still have a great starter its how they were made to be used
The first clip shows how to properly start a cold 2-stroke Detroit. Constantly winding on a starter doesn’t do anything but wear a starter out. Short starting bursts with time for the heat to build up is the right way. These idiots that continuously wind on the starter need a bicycle to ride.
Provost. You couldn’t be more Wrong about that starting procedure,when starting these cold diesels keep stopping the starter when the engine is trying to fire up is crazy,all the time the starter is operating the engine is building up enough heat for it to fire up,short bursts on the starter achieves Nothing but loss of heat plus it takes more energy to get the engine turning over again,I have been a diesel fitter for over 50years starting engines in all conditions,most of the time drivers WONT use the starting aids that the manufacturers fit for cold start situations. Swedish trucks and buses are fitted with proper cold start facilities that heat the inlet manifold so that the fuel can ignite properly and start up without all this smoke nonsense saving both the planet and starter motors,excess fuel devices also help when drivers can be bothered to use them.
@Sheepdog_81 You’re having a laugh,I have been working on Diesel engines for over 50years,your talking out of your ARSE like a lot of of these so called mechanics that like to think they know it all,and I have run Diesel engine cars since they appeared here in the UK in 1984. All that smoke is unburnt fuel because the engine isn’t warm enough to burn it properly and the colder the weather the worse the problem is so don’t insult my intelligence by saying that I don’t know what I’m talking about. Gardner Diesels which were the most reliable engine ever built were one of the worst engines to get running in cold weather because all these EXPERTS like yourself didn’t know there was an excess fuel device fitted to the fuel pump so they could be started easily and if that failed you had to resort to putting a flame down the inlet manifold,and I don’t know what I’m talking about your full of it, Pillock.
@@davidellis279 "And you have clearly demostrated that you have no clue or idea"....about UA-cam comments. Sheepdog was replying to the OP like you did !
@@davidellis279 "Provost. You couldn’t be more Wrong about that starting procedure......." (For clarity as to which of your comments this is a response to !) David, for a moment, just enjoy this video: ua-cam.com/video/yPzubVpLYAc/v-deo.html And the OP is Prevost, not Provost ! I'm glad the follow-up comments all clearly disagree with the OP - as do I Drivers not using starting aids - ABSOLUTELY ! I used to work for a builder who owned a garage - car maintenance & selling petrol. We didn't work on many cars, most of our time was repairing builders' equipment ! We'd get a phone call from the boss - "the tractor won't start" they used a farm tractor & trailer to move builders' rubbish. I'd go to the tractor - now with a flat battery and even with a flat battery, it'd start first time for me. It had a Thermostart fitted and as a starting aid, it's the most impressive variety I know of. Somewhere in the 1970s the new style of injector pumps came out where use of the accelerator pedal turned off the excess fuel feature. An idiotic design since previously the recommended technique was flat out with the pedal - which made starting take forever.
The easiest way to start a Diesel is put a couple of mil of gasoline in the intake, wait a couple of seconds to vapourise then start. Don't use too much as will knock badly.
Would b better if u are able to preheat the engine on a cold morning like that,,,,I,m suprised in some of those videos that the starter motor doesn't burn out,,, ,taking that long to get the engine going altogether.
I thought the red painted engine are Cumming guess i'm wrong, usually when the engine is painted red, its a cummings, when the engine is painted yellow, its a Cat engine.
The size for the worst starting engines of all time has to go to Leyland. In fact I have never seen a single video of one starting up in what I consider a normal start time. Yes, also when compared to contemporary engines. My best guess it has to do with the fuel pump design, but good cold start performance was obviously not a high priority at Leyland.
A neighbor had a 1972 Mercedes 220 diesel when I was growing up. I remember this routine for him in the winter, but wow did he love that car.:) I liked the exhaust smell!
Mmmm love all these buses hard starting, sputtering and all that diesel smoke. I would really love to be there cranking them and enjoying all that diesel smoke.
Mujhe petrol diesel smoke smeel bohot pasand hai
Beautiful start ups
Have you ever seen BUS START live ?
Not a bus but ive seen my RV start, its a decently old diesel, no computer control, nothing really modern in it, a big, loud, smokey engine
Our buses start normally and don't have to crank for so long! Even at temperatures below -10°C!
God giving those starters a heck of a work out
Yeah eventually they will have to replace the starters on some buses depending on the battery power. It takes to operate the starter.
It's a skilled bus that can produce a smoke ring 3:56
The real hero in these videos are the batteries!!
Wow you are really a patient person brother i appreciate it
0:43 idk why but I laughed at this part
Nice video! I'm a bus driver un Spain and I Love those machines, congrats!!
Omg 2:50 i wish I could stand in the smoke and inhale. Would have smell amazing
The smell of a good old diesel. Love it
Eski dizel motor olacak ama sabah soguk dizel kokusu harika
Oh me too. I would love to sit there cranking and pumping it too
All these bused have cool sounds
Good old Detroit wind on that starter cause you know you only get one good hard roll and holder till she blows off. Every time it hits its making more heat and more heat is one step closer to firing. Stoping allows it to cool down and then ur starting over again. Been starting my 8v71 with the original starter for 20 years that way and still have a great starter its how they were made to be used
Absolutely right but there’s some people who just won’t listen to people who know what their doing,their full of SHIT. 👍👍👍
Keep well oiled ;) (Nobody does any more ! Dynamos used to have a hole in the end of them to squirt oil in from time to time but who did ?
The first clip shows how to properly start a cold 2-stroke Detroit. Constantly winding on a starter doesn’t do anything but wear a starter out. Short starting bursts with time for the heat to build up is the right way. These idiots that continuously wind on the starter need a bicycle to ride.
Provost. You couldn’t be more Wrong about that starting procedure,when starting these cold diesels keep stopping the starter when the engine is trying to fire up is crazy,all the time the starter is operating the engine is building up enough heat for it to fire up,short bursts on the starter achieves Nothing but loss of heat plus it takes more energy to get the engine turning over again,I have been a diesel fitter for over 50years starting engines in all conditions,most of the time drivers WONT use the starting aids that the manufacturers fit for cold start situations. Swedish trucks and buses are fitted with proper cold start facilities that heat the inlet manifold so that the fuel can ignite properly and start up without all this smoke nonsense saving both the planet and starter motors,excess fuel devices also help when drivers can be bothered to use them.
@Sheepdog_81 You’re having a laugh,I have been working on Diesel engines for over 50years,your talking out of your ARSE like a lot of of these so called mechanics that like to think they know it all,and I have run Diesel engine cars since they appeared here in the UK in 1984. All that smoke is unburnt fuel because the engine isn’t warm enough to burn it properly and the colder the weather the worse the problem is so don’t insult my intelligence by saying that I don’t know what I’m talking about. Gardner Diesels which were the most reliable engine ever built were one of the worst engines to get running in cold weather because all these EXPERTS like yourself didn’t know there was an excess fuel device fitted to the fuel pump so they could be started easily and if that failed you had to resort to putting a flame down the inlet manifold,and I don’t know what I’m talking about your full of it, Pillock.
@@davidellis279 "And you have clearly demostrated that you have no clue or idea"....about UA-cam comments. Sheepdog was replying to the OP like you did !
@@davidellis279 "Provost. You couldn’t be more Wrong about that starting procedure......." (For clarity as to which of your comments this is a response to !)
David, for a moment, just enjoy this video: ua-cam.com/video/yPzubVpLYAc/v-deo.html
And the OP is Prevost, not Provost !
I'm glad the follow-up comments all clearly disagree with the OP - as do I
Drivers not using starting aids - ABSOLUTELY ! I used to work for a builder who owned a garage - car maintenance & selling petrol. We didn't work on many cars, most of our time was repairing builders' equipment ! We'd get a phone call from the boss - "the tractor won't start" they used a farm tractor & trailer to move builders' rubbish. I'd go to the tractor - now with a flat battery and even with a flat battery, it'd start first time for me. It had a Thermostart fitted and as a starting aid, it's the most impressive variety I know of.
Somewhere in the 1970s the new style of injector pumps came out where use of the accelerator pedal turned off the excess fuel feature. An idiotic design since previously the recommended technique was flat out with the pedal - which made starting take forever.
That made me chuckle!
The Mercedes engine was the one it started the best
Stupid question: on rear engine pusher buses, why do they open the engine compartment?
Greyhound driver. Don’t rev so high when cold..
I think he had his whole leg stuffed in it!
True for pretty much all engines
Cooler
👍👍👍
1:50 😂
The easiest way to start a Diesel is put a couple of mil of gasoline in the intake, wait a couple of seconds to vapourise then start.
Don't use too much as will knock badly.
Would b better if u are able to preheat the engine on a cold morning like that,,,,I,m suprised in some of those videos that the starter motor doesn't burn out,,, ,taking that long to get the engine going altogether.
5:00 MBE904, I'll be glad when these underpowered things are done and gone.
Euro 6 compliant?...
Euro 0 more likely......
2:55
I thought the red painted engine are Cumming guess i'm wrong, usually when the engine is painted red, its a cummings, when the engine is painted yellow, its a Cat engine.
It is odd because detroits were painted green
I think the red Detroit were built at another plant... Think about how like caterpillars used to be white in Peterbilt
There's no G in Cummins
Where are you from guys ? :)
Minnesota
Ohio
Andalucía Spain
Argentina :(
Jaidencain
Manchen sollte man wirklich mal erklären, daß es Sinn macht, den Anlasser mal länger als nur 2 Sekunden drehen zu lassen.
Can we get a face reveal 😉 please
The bus fuel
Это что они все конченные движки, что так долго заводится?
The size for the worst starting engines of all time has to go to Leyland. In fact I have never seen a single video of one starting up in what I consider a normal start time. Yes, also when compared to contemporary engines. My best guess it has to do with the fuel pump design, but good cold start performance was obviously not a high priority at Leyland.
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