Is anyone else kind of dissapointed in the owner for letting her get out of flight-practice and fitness after jamie did so much amazing work? I wouldn't have a bird trained so beautifully and then not stay consistant. Maybe I dont know the whole story, but it's just a bummer.
Don't judge please, there is a lot going on, horrible things with previous owners. They show up at freeflight spots where Morgan could fly and try to kidnap her. They have to be out of contact and publicity for her savety (yes savety) that gives them both a lot of stress. I know this because Jamie mentioned that in an comment, someone asked about Morgan. Be kind for Morgans owner and their situation.
@@LindaEll89 Thank you, I did not keep up with all the drama- but I am sorry both Morgan and Patsy (sorry if I get the name wrong) being harassed to the point they cannot go safely outside and enjoy being free. (Actually it makes me mad: ex-ex-ex owners back off already, everyone else is doing a far better job together with this bird than you ever did, go away and let them be!)
Jamie really should've opened up with a "here's the story" of why Morgan is there on short notice, what this trip is and why the bird is so out of shape. OK, free fly spots are problematic because prior owners want to steal her, but her talons not being maintained shows lack of proper care. Which makes the rest of the situation suspect.
This was the story that made me fall in love with you guys and your channel. I can not wait to see Morgan! I've thought about her so often. My heart is melting already!
Your honesty makes me emotional. I once cried when my bird bit me. Not because of the pain, but because I was so upset.I sometimes struggle with my birds too. I love them to bits, often expect to much and get upset easily. I saw the podcast on how we should not project our emotions on our birds, that really teaches me an important lesson. Thank you guys for making this world a better place for birds and bird owners.
Yeah, same. It's really not the pain of the bite, it's the feeling of rejection. But they're not rejecting us, they just have different communication tools and they're doing the best they can to talk to us in the way they know best. ...I'm going to try to keep this in mind while training new birds next week, heh.
I know right? Just sounds like the bird has been neglected.. his skittish, scared of things easier, he was even unsure about her hand movements.. sounds like he’s been caged for a while lol
I agree. I don't believe patty was taking adequate care of her and she got the training done because she thought it was going to be a "one and done" situation. There's lots of clues in the original series, like when they made a video together and Patty just kept drawling out millions of excuses. This new excuse about previous owners trying to steal Morgan are laughable at best and sounds completely insane, and instead of completely putting the bird on lockdown you'd probably get the authorities involved or at least confront those people. This whole thing is insane, I DO NOT get good vibes from Patty and I think the bird just spends all its days locked in the cage with minimal interaction.
Morgan was so missed! She's the reason I started watching BirdTricks! Seeing you bond with such a beautiful animal was such inspiration! Can't wait to see what you accomplish with her again!
Ok, I watched the whole video and will watch again but I missed something. Why do you only have 5 days to train Morgan. What happens in 5 days. I thought Morgans owner is a trainer, why can't she free fly? Dont be so hard on yourself; we women take this do seriously, like it's always our fault. A guy would think something's wrong with the bird. 😄 give yourself a break. Thanks
@@dogcrazy25 Not ALL guys would react as you state but I can certainly see where many would. Please keep in mind though that some of us are almost as intuitive as women can be. :)
@@dogcrazy25 A guy would DEFINITELY think something was wrong the bird. I'm not going to say anything more than that, but I know every woman who reads this comment will know everything i didnt say 🤣
I say this with all due respect.. and I do hope that I am wrong however, it seems that Morgan lost allot of what she learned with you the first time due to the fact that her owner failed to continue the training you put into Morgan.
Oh good grief. Wear appropriate attire, including leather gloves. A _bite_ is just testing a branch for stability. If you are going to offer your own skin as a substitute tree - don't blame the critter...move so fast, nor project your issues on the animal, please.
Working with birds is like being in therapy, it takes so much energy to be constantly self-aware so you can get to the ACTUAL work. Hope you're doing well!
Seems to be similar to being like an actual therapist, too. A good therapist knows not to bring their own "shit" into the session. They either need to know how to snap out of it, or recognize when they can't snap out of it and reschedule.
You are doing an amazing job working on all the things you are doing, but you are working yourself so hard for other peoples expectations. Its okay to say no, its okay to just take it one step at a time, you're not going to dissapoint your fanbase, your patreons, and who else might have you. You won't dissapoint us, we'll be here regardless. This is your life and your story Jaime ❤️
When Morgan first met you, her life, on a scale of 1 to 10, was a 2. After your work with her, it became a 9. Once you were gone, she may have missed you far more than we believe an animal can miss a human. Her reaction to your return could have triggered a feeling of anger toward your leaving. We are not supposed to anthropomorphize animal behavior but I am not convinced that doing that is all that wrong.
Some things are decidedly human. Doing something specifically to make another person mad is decidedly human. Vengeance is human. Regret is human. Could the interaction triggered feelings related to the memory of her leaving the first time? There's no proof that it doesn't. But it starts to hurt our animals when we start to think that, for example, the dog peed on the carpet to get back at us for something. Or that the cat understood that they were making a mess when they got into the trash after you had fried chicken for dinner.
Cairrean Cairrean Vengeance is not entirely only a human emotion. Ravens can definitely carry a grudge. I don’t know if animals feel regret, that’s not really something you can know without asking them. And with intentionally making someone mad? I know that wild galahs and magpie larks will pick on other birds. Projecting our emotions on out animals is dangerous I agree, since we can’t assume that their motivations are the same as ours. But imo to suggest that animals don’t feel as many emotions as we do seems egotistical, and unfair to them.
I sometimes wonder if domesticated animals have evolved to be more like us. As in, the feelings of revenge and anger are human traits, I have never incounered a wild animal that cares for such things. I don't know, I think the idea of anthropomorphizing animals is not something that should be ignored.
Birds are one of the smartest animals in the world, especially parrots and large macaws in particular. They feel emotions, recognize who’s talking to them, and know if what they’re saying is good and bad. They’re so smart, I’m not surprised they have these reactions.
I get so emotionally invested in things too. Its great to be passionate about what you are doing but sometimes we have to distance ourselves for our own well being.
*I remember the video of you training Morgan I was amazed how fast she got comfortable with u by just letting her make the decision to interact with you instead of forcing her to interact with u. Ur amazing with these beautiful birds keep up the good work!!*
Can't wait to see that trip you're talking about, I'm sure Morgan will do just fine. Morgan is actually what made me start thinking a bit more about the commitment behind having a bird, before the Morgan series I never thought about how hard it would be, and how it was not just a one time thing. Since that series came out I've been doing so much more research on everything about birds, and for awhile i thought I would get a macaw as soon as i could, but now even that has calmed down. I do still want a macaw, so very badly, but also know I need to learn hands on before taking on a bird that could likely take my fingers as their own. I really just want to say thank you Jamie, you probably did help a bird in the future, because I would have gotten one eventually, regardless of my inexperience and lack of knowledge, and they might have suffered due to my ignorance.
Did you ever get a macaw? I recently adopted a Catalina Macaw and despite having two other parrots the level of care for a macaw is a huge step up. They can be so loud when they want to be, and mine is very hormonal. The vet wants her to have an implant due to how hormonal she is.
@@MrJdubz100 no, sadly I'm still not in the financial or mental place to get a bird of any kind, but its something I still want for myself in the future
Hopefully some day you can find a rescue and provide it with a great home. It sounds like you have done quite a bit if research and know how to provide a good environment. It is sad to see how Morgan went downhill after leaving JamieLeighs care. I hope that she is back up to 100% now.
I love that you show your mistakes. Then explain why they're mistakes. As you said no one gets it right 100% of the time, humans are emotional creatures it's hard to turn them off & not project them. At least you realised what you did & can go into things with a better energy.
I adore having Morgan back! Her story is how I found your channel. I know Patty loves her, and we all love Patty, but if I'm being totally honest, I think it would benefit Morgan if she stayed with you, Dave and Capri full time. Either way stoked to see her back and for Morgan's story part 2.
Watching you with Morgan just melts my heart. It reminds me so much of my relationship with a senegal parrot I work with. He was a 24 year old rescue who came to us two years ago. He was mostly plucked, and abused by his old owners husband. He and I had a magical instant connection. I became his person (and I still am). I worked with him on his diet, his fear and his plucking (he’s now fully feathered except he still pulls his tail feathers), and now he has enough confidence to do shows (were an animal ed centre and we do lots of school presentations and such) with me. Your videos with Morgan initially actually helped me so much because even though he wasn’t technically disabled, he had the same sort of balance issues and fear of perching due to not having a tail. I know exactly how you feel having such a special relationship with an animal who isn’t and never will be yours. It’s so painful, yet so worth it just to spend even one moment with them. Good luck on your current journey together. I love you guys!
Mrs. Womach, Your parrot passion is awesome and inspiring !! Growing up as a boy in a broken, abusive home, raising birds were the only Love I ever got ! Bless you and your aviary work !! 🤗
Why hasn’t her owner kept up with training? Why hasn’t her owner gotten her nails trimmed? Unless this is an agreement that you trim her nails the owner should have a vet or professional do it regularly. It seems like for the short time Morgan is in your care she is a happier and more well behaved bird
Jaime, be kind to yourself. You know that even the best trainers get bit. ( I consider what you experienced a pinch due to no blood ) When i think of you, i admire your persistence. You’re not one to give up, and you always figure out how to push through. Our feelings get hurt because we love so much. I love your aviary. ❤️🕊
some macaw bites can leave really intense bruises without breaking the skin due to the large surface area of the beak. My Catalina Macaw Amelia is a rescue and she has a biting habit. Even though most of the ones on my arm don’t break the skin they still leave dark purple bruises that last for a week.
As a dog trainer this is a million times relatable. It can be so discouraging when your brain is in a million different places and you over book by accident. Add family illness on top of the mix and I just have not had the trainer confidence I usually do so I totally get how hard you took the Morgan interaction. Keep your head up because you're one of the great ones and we all have our bad days. I'm so glad that you and Capri could have a moment that reset everything and made a positive out of a bummer time. You do amazing work and this line of work can at times feel so isolated so it's super important to cling on to the support system that you have.
I am glad that you made this video. It is a reminder to all of use that we need to continually review our interactions with our birds as we all make mistakes and probably will in the future.
Jamie, I think you’re so awesome! Thank you for showing the real side of owning parrots and reminding us that introspection is so valuable ( not only for ourselves, but for our parrots). The purple hair really suits you, love it!
Ah! It’s a tease!! Edit: It’s no longer a tease! Man, the emotion in this video got me in the feels. As corny as it sounds, I want to give you a virtual hug, tell you you’re an amazing person in everything you do. Your parenting absolutely shines in the glimpses we get with your daughter, you are such a compassionate pet owner and the as a trainer, you shoot to the stars! Thank you for showing the successes and the trials.
I love the end with the two birds together! One thing that comes to mind about the first day that you said you were projecting your feelings. You have also taught us to video tape ourselves so that it is easier to identify the problems. Because you are a pro, you figured it out right away. If we follow your teachings we would take a bit longer, but get there! Thanks for another great video.
I love your channel. I pray you no longer have to feel pressure in the future again! We'll always be here to watch and enjoy the contents you put out. Lots of love to the Birdtricks family!!
Thanks for sharing your vulnerable side, very generous of you. I learned a lot from this video. It shows how subtle their warning signals can be, and how difficult it can be to pick up on.
In case you ever wondered how long their memories are, I recently got my 23 year old Yellow Naped Amazon back after 15 years with "grandma." He remembered me within minutes, without a doubt. He was regurgitating for me almost as soon as he heard my voice (not that I'm encouraging that, but it was impressive; his grandma said he never did that for her.) It's amazing what they remember.
I added this video to my self-care playlist because this is a message I know I'll need to hear again ❤️ I appreciate you so much Jamie, and I have to say your mini human is so outstanding, you and Dave are really doing something right with that kiddo. Thank you for being vulnerable with us and sharing the highs, lows and the climbs in-between ❤️
Like so many other people here, the first video of yours I watched was the day you brought Morgan home. I loved every minute of her story and have also missed her this past year. You are amazing, so don’t take the bite as a negative.
I do appreciate your humility in describing your reaction to Morgan’s bite. My 7 year-old Blue and Gold male has been biting after all this time. I feel like I failed. I dream and worry and I just feel so much better knowing a pro like you doesn’t deal with bites lightly. You give me hope. I just love your relationship with Morgan. Can’t believe I could get so emotional about this story. Your connection with her is just so tender and precious.
So, I think a lot of people (including myself) were expecting (huh, funny about expectations) to see this like...running/flying across a field to each other slow mo movie style 😂 and while that didn't happen, I think what you showed was even more beautiful because it was REAL. Morgan has been gone for a year and coming back is brand new for both of you - you are not the same person and Morgan is not the same bird. It's a lesson to all of us, as bird owners and as people, to not lean on expectations of others but to enjoy the process, whatever it may be ❤❤
(4:00) You asked your viewers to predict how Morgan would react after a year away in your "Community post." Here was my prediction: _"My guess (from my macaw’s experience) is three stages of reaction: First, confusion ...then total excitement followed by some snips and bites for being away so long."_ *_.........Called that one!_* *Additional Note:* Parrots bite. Sometimes they just bite for the hell of it. We look at biting in a completely different way than parrots do. I don't think parrots even understand how brutally painful their bites can be. It's the only real manifestation of power that they possess (as a non-proprietorial animal), so they use it whenever they damn well feel like it. It can be heartbreaking based on how we love them ........but nature is often heartbreaking.
Birdman I figure you can answer this for me how is it that the other birds in the flocks of birds known for being biters don’t end up with bites on them? It seems like one bite would cause massive damage. So why haven’t I seen evidence of bite marks among birds? It seems like an owner would point that out to us.
@@Joycemac I have two macaws that got into a fight just this morning (male and female). B&G vs Green wing. The B&G did suffer a facial cut from the green wing's beak before I could break them up ...so it does happen. I've wondered the same thing, but parrots go at it beak-to-beak. That's mostly keratin-klashing and not like our soft, spongy "exposed flesh" that's easily nabbed from someone who doesn't fight back. ...They're just idiots.
Birdman lol, wonderful answer. After I posted my question I was watching another bird video and I noticed the damaged beak and remembered it happened when the birds first met. The bite the bird received was bad enough that one side of the beak has a massive dent in it. Thanks for the answer and including so much personality. How I wish I owned a bird.
Joyce McClaran I’ll tell you this much, a parrot is like a 2-year-old that can take off you fingers. This “Bird Tricks” couple are the best I’ve seen anywhere for dealing with parrots. They are unprecedented in their knowledge and how to manage their strange behavior. If you do adopt a bird, watch their videos. They cover just about every issue you’ll encounter (especially with parrots). As painful as they can be, my parrots are a wonderful experience and have taught me a great deal about patience. All my best to you!
I've never even met her and I love her so much. She has such a good heart. She's such a kindred spirit to those birds. That whole family is. Lucky bird who's lucky enough to find those people. If you have to be in captivity I can't believe it gets better than that.
I was sad to see how Morgan had been progressing so beautifully, and now, this. Patty has a life too, and she did recognize that something had to be done for Morgan. None of us can keep up with our responsibilities all the time.
Yes I am not one to judge about not keeping up with nail trimming because despite the fact that I can do most of my birds nails on my own sometimes I let their nails get pretty sharp. Thank goodness for those pedi perch things, those help quite a bit.
It's funny, I saw that first clip of you working, listened to what you were saying, and I saw that bite coming a milion miles away. Cuz I found myself in that situation so many times, not with birds but with horses. The moment you said "we only have 5 days" I just thought "oho" We have a saying in the horse world, if you want to do something with your horse and act like you only have 15 minutes to do it, it's gonna take you the whole day, if you come up to him acting like you have the whole day, it's gonna take you 15 minutes. This is something I keep in mind every single time I work with a horse, and even then just last week I fell into the same trap you did and got kicked nearly out of my horse's stable because I didn't listen to what he was telling me, I just kept thinking "I need to get this done." It is a hard thing to do to set your expectations aside and look at the animal you're working with and how they're feeling, rather than to cave into pressure, but at the same time it's so rewarding, because the respect and trust you find when you actually listen is just invaluable, and in the long run you get so much more done. But that said 20 years into horses and I still find myself making the same mistakes, it's really a constant work on yourself, but it also makes you that much more conscious of your state of mind, and when you do get a horse, or a bird, who's responsive, available and ready to work and trust you to have their back, there's just nothing else like it
I'm not reading an essay this makes me have brain damage Turns out people can't take jokes anymore Btw I read it all And the people that say I don't know English English is my 2nd language
Wow, you really are the sweetest thing and of course your sensitivity is the reason why you’re so good at what you do. Such integrity, intelligence and compassion, it’s a joy to witness. Your wisdom is so needed. Awesome. ☀️
I love the way you reflect and learn from your experiences, Jamie. So honest with yourself and with us. No wonder you are such an awesome trainer, always thinking about how you could do even better.
Not to be rude, but why is that it seems like she’s doing worse than she was when she left you? In regards to flying and stuff, why doesn’t she fly at her home?
@@curlyemmm1232 that's terrible, but she could be flying inside like she does here, and the fact that her talons aren't trimmed and she's "skittish" is concerning me a lot.
you handled the bite sooo much better than i would have. basically being told f you from an old friend that you spent so much time working with already and then giving him a clean fresh start again the next day was great to see. even if i knew that it's not "personal" and who knows what morgan was thinking in that moment.. i still would be cranky, cautious and more distanced from then on. She can count herself lucky to have such an amazing trainer and i wish both of you the best for training and the upcoming trip
I have two Blue and Golds. Watching what you have done with/for Morgan is very inspiring. I feel such love for that sweet bird and appreciation for you Jamie. I’m learning so much watching you work. You have the perfect tone and touch and you bring out the essence of that little bird so artfully. Fun to watch.
I feel like the pressure is on! Poor Morgan .... You did so much work on her and she was just doing so amazing. My heart hurts for you and her, but I can’t help but think maybe she missed you. So the only way to get you back in her life was to get you back her way ha. You two actually belong together in my honest opinion! ❤️❤️❤️
I'm sorry you got bit and things didn't go as good as you would have liked but this was good stuff to see;we learened something and it shows that eventhough you are a wonderful bird trainer, it shows you are also human. And it is a perfect example of what you guys were talking about in the last podcast,like you mentioned. But it was great to see beautiful Morgan again. Her series is what got me hooked to your channel
I had a cockatoo for 15 years. It's like having a 2 year old for 60 years! To say parrots are a lot of work, is an understatement. They need time and patience and JamieLee is that calm person. I am awed with how she works with these birds. She's amazing.
I think you hit it right about the energy levels. It's amazing how sensitive you are and Morgan reacts to this because she has also this sensitivity. I think you are a very beautiful person. I have no experience with birds but I see that tuning in and teaching requires a special and unique capacity, birds or humans. Remember to deep breathe.
Its always nice to chat and watch.... Super exciting video and nice to see morgan and comet together... Thank you... I will always appreciate premiere video...👍
My personal experience: I was gone for a while and when I returned, even before entering the room, my birds knew that I was there and they were exceedingly joyful, jumping and screaming around in the cage. I had never experienced such a powerful welcome from them. My birds always greeted me when I joined their company after a while with their signature voice they always used for greeting me but this was totally different. I don't believe that birds get anxious when you are not there but once they see you again after a while, they experience untamable joy.
The first video I saw of you was the one where you brought Morgan to your house and you were trying to make him get out of the little cage in the kitchen. Such an honest and touching video and I totally enjoyed the ending with the aviary scenes with the macaws, so beautiful! 💕😊
Jamie my heart is singing for you and Morgan. No don't worry we are all human and get bit cuz our Energy is out of WACK and we are trying sooooo darn hard to please and help others in every way possible. I want to SAY OF COURSE WE WOULD ALL Want to see you and help you STAY at home so we can watch more of you on youtube/Patreon. I'm excited to see more of you and support you as much as I can from over here in Michigan. You have NO idea how badly I wanted you to be able to take on BOTH of them and now it's a for SURE! So happy to hear. You're a lovely lady and full of grace with our feathered friends. Love to you and your family my friend. :)
You sweet, sweet woman! You know your stuff. I know nothing of birds and I''m so taken with you and your videos. Your message about birds and training are transferable to ALL relationships.
@@birdtricks Jamie this was sooo heartwarming, I felt so may emotions watching this from yours to Morgans and seeing the interactions I cant wait to see the next upload and see how it all goes. Thank you for posting♡
I wish Morgan were Jamie’s bird. I love their relationship and the progress they’ve had together cannot be compared. Seeing them together again is bittersweet.
You are so amazing to share your emotions and admit that you did not follow your own advice.. It makes you human and more relatable to your viewers and clients. Thank you for sharing your mistakes and reeling it back in!
When you left her in the outside aviary and with the camera backing away for some inexplicable reason i got so emotional and cried a little, Morgan is so special. I hope she is happy.
Thank you for this video. I get where you coming from. I love all my birds but when I'm off emotionally they really react to it.. then I get frustrated and hurt when my birds are being"mean" love your channel and what you do . ♥️
My mum is a dog trainer and it's crazy the similarities. We overcomplicate and rush things a lot as humans. So glad I found your channel x Edit: Comet is one handsome lad!
Is anyone else kind of dissapointed in the owner for letting her get out of flight-practice and fitness after jamie did so much amazing work? I wouldn't have a bird trained so beautifully and then not stay consistant. Maybe I dont know the whole story, but it's just a bummer.
Gracie Chaney ikr, the owner totally dropped the ball. I hope we can hear the full story, bc it really is disappointing
Don't judge please, there is a lot going on, horrible things with previous owners. They show up at freeflight spots where Morgan could fly and try to kidnap her.
They have to be out of contact and publicity for her savety (yes savety) that gives them both a lot of stress. I know this because Jamie mentioned that in an comment, someone asked about Morgan. Be kind for Morgans owner and their situation.
@@LindaEll89 Thank you, I did not keep up with all the drama- but I am sorry both Morgan and Patsy (sorry if I get the name wrong) being harassed to the point they cannot go safely outside and enjoy being free. (Actually it makes me mad: ex-ex-ex owners back off already, everyone else is doing a far better job together with this bird than you ever did, go away and let them be!)
@@LindaEll89 Holy crap. If that's true, that's totally not okay. I feel bad for the owner. =(
Jamie really should've opened up with a "here's the story" of why Morgan is there on short notice, what this trip is and why the bird is so out of shape.
OK, free fly spots are problematic because prior owners want to steal her, but her talons not being maintained shows lack of proper care. Which makes the rest of the situation suspect.
This was the story that made me fall in love with you guys and your channel. I can not wait to see Morgan! I've thought about her so often. My heart is melting already!
Same
Your honesty makes me emotional. I once cried when my bird bit me. Not because of the pain, but because I was so upset.I sometimes struggle with my birds too. I love them to bits, often expect to much and get upset easily. I saw the podcast on how we should not project our emotions on our birds, that really teaches me an important lesson. Thank you guys for making this world a better place for birds and bird owners.
Nice story
Yeah, same. It's really not the pain of the bite, it's the feeling of rejection. But they're not rejecting us, they just have different communication tools and they're doing the best they can to talk to us in the way they know best. ...I'm going to try to keep this in mind while training new birds next week, heh.
Humanizing animals is a massive mistake for us & our pets.
@@adichowdhury7558 no one asked for your opinion lol.
Her crying in the beginning shows that she truly loves the birds. she doesn’t do this for the money, she does it for them.
morgan getting to your house was the very first video I saw of yours! So excited see this video!
Same
SAME w/ me too!
I'm scared of any bird
Watching her videos make me wonder
SAME!!
same :)
same
Why did the owner not keep up with flight training or trimming/filing Morgan's nails?
I know right? Just sounds like the bird has been neglected.. his skittish, scared of things easier, he was even unsure about her hand movements.. sounds like he’s been caged for a while lol
@@AdriCr4ft *she
Her nails are long cause she is on vet perches for her bum foot
@@AdriCr4ft uh....or it could be because its a new environment again and because she hasnt seen jamie in a year...
I agree. I don't believe patty was taking adequate care of her and she got the training done because she thought it was going to be a "one and done" situation. There's lots of clues in the original series, like when they made a video together and Patty just kept drawling out millions of excuses.
This new excuse about previous owners trying to steal Morgan are laughable at best and sounds completely insane, and instead of completely putting the bird on lockdown you'd probably get the authorities involved or at least confront those people. This whole thing is insane, I DO NOT get good vibes from Patty and I think the bird just spends all its days locked in the cage with minimal interaction.
Morgan was so missed! She's the reason I started watching BirdTricks! Seeing you bond with such a beautiful animal was such inspiration! Can't wait to see what you accomplish with her again!
Ok, I watched the whole video and will watch again but I missed something. Why do you only have 5 days to train Morgan. What happens in 5 days. I thought Morgans owner is a trainer, why can't she free fly? Dont be so hard on yourself; we women take this do seriously, like it's always our fault. A guy would think something's wrong with the bird. 😄 give yourself a break. Thanks
@@dogcrazy25 *shakes head*
@@dogcrazy25 Not ALL guys would react as you state but I can certainly see where many would. Please keep in mind though that some of us are almost as intuitive as women can be. :)
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A guy would DEFINITELY think something was wrong the bird. I'm not going to say anything more than that, but I know every woman who reads this comment will know everything i didnt say 🤣
I say this with all due respect.. and I do hope that I am wrong however, it seems that Morgan lost allot of what she learned with you the first time due to the fact that her owner failed to continue the training you put into Morgan.
nilgor70 Yes they do
@@nilgor70 why
@@nilgor70 sigh..... Always that one guy.
I think she bit her because of her sweater strings!
@@companioncubeismysoulmate180 that one person is helping believe it or not
16:14... I so admire your insight and honesty. I could see how hard that bite hit you emotionally.
It’ll come right. Don’t burn yourself out. ❤️
Oh good grief. Wear appropriate attire, including leather gloves. A _bite_ is just testing a branch for stability. If you are going to offer your own skin as a substitute tree - don't blame the critter...move so fast, nor project your issues on the animal, please.
Julie Mikalson Hi Julie, did you watch the whole video or just randomly react to my comment from 1 year ago? Why the harshness?
Yep I watched the whole thing. I recommend gloves as wild animals will do their normal behaviors when testing a potential roost.
@@JulieMikalson do you actually know what your talking about
Parrots are generally terrified of gloves and it does not help to build trust with them. Morgan is far from a wild animal.
Working with birds is like being in therapy, it takes so much energy to be constantly self-aware so you can get to the ACTUAL work. Hope you're doing well!
Seems to be similar to being like an actual therapist, too. A good therapist knows not to bring their own "shit" into the session. They either need to know how to snap out of it, or recognize when they can't snap out of it and reschedule.
👍🏻 Every bit of progress I made in my life came from my horses.
You are doing an amazing job working on all the things you are doing, but you are working yourself so hard for other peoples expectations. Its okay to say no, its okay to just take it one step at a time, you're not going to dissapoint your fanbase, your patreons, and who else might have you. You won't dissapoint us, we'll be here regardless. This is your life and your story Jaime ❤️
😭 thank you. 😍
When Morgan first met you, her life, on a scale of 1 to 10, was a 2. After your work with her, it became a 9. Once you were gone, she may have missed you far more than we believe an animal can miss a human. Her reaction to your return could have triggered a feeling of anger toward your leaving. We are not supposed to anthropomorphize animal behavior but I am not convinced that doing that is all that wrong.
Some things are decidedly human. Doing something specifically to make another person mad is decidedly human. Vengeance is human. Regret is human. Could the interaction triggered feelings related to the memory of her leaving the first time? There's no proof that it doesn't. But it starts to hurt our animals when we start to think that, for example, the dog peed on the carpet to get back at us for something. Or that the cat understood that they were making a mess when they got into the trash after you had fried chicken for dinner.
Cairrean Cairrean Vengeance is not entirely only a human emotion. Ravens can definitely carry a grudge. I don’t know if animals feel regret, that’s not really something you can know without asking them. And with intentionally making someone mad? I know that wild galahs and magpie larks will pick on other birds.
Projecting our emotions on out animals is dangerous I agree, since we can’t assume that their motivations are the same as ours. But imo to suggest that animals don’t feel as many emotions as we do seems egotistical, and unfair to them.
Whales are actually emotionally superior to human beings....
I sometimes wonder if domesticated animals have evolved to be more like us. As in, the feelings of revenge and anger are human traits, I have never incounered a wild animal that cares for such things. I don't know, I think the idea of anthropomorphizing animals is not something that should be ignored.
Birds are one of the smartest animals in the world, especially parrots and large macaws in particular. They feel emotions, recognize who’s talking to them, and know if what they’re saying is good and bad. They’re so smart, I’m not surprised they have these reactions.
I love the fact that you are so emotionally invested. May not be great for a trainer but I appreciate your heart.
I get so emotionally invested in things too. Its great to be passionate about what you are doing but sometimes we have to distance ourselves for our own well being.
*I remember the video of you training Morgan I was amazed how fast she got comfortable with u by just letting her make the decision to interact with you instead of forcing her to interact with u. Ur amazing with these beautiful birds keep up the good work!!*
Can't wait to see that trip you're talking about, I'm sure Morgan will do just fine.
Morgan is actually what made me start thinking a bit more about the commitment behind having a bird, before the Morgan series I never thought about how hard it would be, and how it was not just a one time thing. Since that series came out I've been doing so much more research on everything about birds, and for awhile i thought I would get a macaw as soon as i could, but now even that has calmed down. I do still want a macaw, so very badly, but also know I need to learn hands on before taking on a bird that could likely take my fingers as their own.
I really just want to say thank you Jamie, you probably did help a bird in the future, because I would have gotten one eventually, regardless of my inexperience and lack of knowledge, and they might have suffered due to my ignorance.
Did you ever get a macaw? I recently adopted a Catalina Macaw and despite having two other parrots the level of care for a macaw is a huge step up. They can be so loud when they want to be, and mine is very hormonal. The vet wants her to have an implant due to how hormonal she is.
@@MrJdubz100 no, sadly I'm still not in the financial or mental place to get a bird of any kind, but its something I still want for myself in the future
Hopefully some day you can find a rescue and provide it with a great home. It sounds like you have done quite a bit if research and know how to provide a good environment. It is sad to see how Morgan went downhill after leaving JamieLeighs care. I hope that she is back up to 100% now.
This is just 💔 ❤️ Im sorry you had to deal with this pressure
I love that you show your mistakes. Then explain why they're mistakes. As you said no one gets it right 100% of the time, humans are emotional creatures it's hard to turn them off & not project them. At least you realised what you did & can go into things with a better energy.
I adore having Morgan back! Her story is how I found your channel. I know Patty loves her, and we all love Patty, but if I'm being totally honest, I think it would benefit Morgan if she stayed with you, Dave and Capri full time. Either way stoked to see her back and for Morgan's story part 2.
Love your honesty. That is why people learn so much from you because your so humble and honest.
Watching you with Morgan just melts my heart. It reminds me so much of my relationship with a senegal parrot I work with. He was a 24 year old rescue who came to us two years ago. He was mostly plucked, and abused by his old owners husband. He and I had a magical instant connection. I became his person (and I still am). I worked with him on his diet, his fear and his plucking (he’s now fully feathered except he still pulls his tail feathers), and now he has enough confidence to do shows (were an animal ed centre and we do lots of school presentations and such) with me. Your videos with Morgan initially actually helped me so much because even though he wasn’t technically disabled, he had the same sort of balance issues and fear of perching due to not having a tail. I know exactly how you feel having such a special relationship with an animal who isn’t and never will be yours. It’s so painful, yet so worth it just to spend even one moment with them. Good luck on your current journey together. I love you guys!
Mrs. Womach,
Your parrot passion is awesome and inspiring !!
Growing up as a boy in a broken, abusive home, raising birds were the only Love I ever got !
Bless you and your aviary work !! 🤗
Jamie: "My heart exploded all over the place today!"
Me: "Like toucan poop? Probably like toucan poop." lol
XD
Haaaaa!!!
Why hasn’t her owner kept up with training? Why hasn’t her owner gotten her nails trimmed? Unless this is an agreement that you trim her nails the owner should have a vet or professional do it regularly. It seems like for the short time Morgan is in your care she is a happier and more well behaved bird
Agree, but we don't know the whole story. Don't be so quick to judge
Jaime, be kind to yourself. You know that even the best trainers get bit. ( I consider what you experienced a pinch due to no blood ) When i think of you, i admire your persistence. You’re not one to give up, and you always figure out how to push through. Our feelings get hurt because we love so much. I love your aviary. ❤️🕊
some macaw bites can leave really intense bruises without breaking the skin due to the large surface area of the beak. My Catalina Macaw Amelia is a rescue and she has a biting habit. Even though most of the ones on my arm don’t break the skin they still leave dark purple bruises that last for a week.
As a dog trainer this is a million times relatable. It can be so discouraging when your brain is in a million different places and you over book by accident. Add family illness on top of the mix and I just have not had the trainer confidence I usually do so I totally get how hard you took the Morgan interaction. Keep your head up because you're one of the great ones and we all have our bad days. I'm so glad that you and Capri could have a moment that reset everything and made a positive out of a bummer time. You do amazing work and this line of work can at times feel so isolated so it's super important to cling on to the support system that you have.
I am glad that you made this video. It is a reminder to all of use that we need to continually review our interactions with our birds as we all make mistakes and probably will in the future.
Jamie, I think you’re so awesome! Thank you for showing the real side of owning parrots and reminding us that introspection is so valuable ( not only for ourselves, but for our parrots). The purple hair really suits you, love it!
Ah! It’s a tease!!
Edit: It’s no longer a tease! Man, the emotion in this video got me in the feels. As corny as it sounds, I want to give you a virtual hug, tell you you’re an amazing person in everything you do. Your parenting absolutely shines in the glimpses we get with your daughter, you are such a compassionate pet owner and the as a trainer, you shoot to the stars! Thank you for showing the successes and the trials.
I love the end with the two birds together! One thing that comes to mind about the first day that you said you were projecting your feelings. You have also taught us to video tape ourselves so that it is easier to identify the problems. Because you are a pro, you figured it out right away. If we follow your teachings we would take a bit longer, but get there! Thanks for another great video.
I love your channel. I pray you no longer have to feel pressure in the future again! We'll always be here to watch and enjoy the contents you put out. Lots of love to the Birdtricks family!!
It was part of her story in my recommendations that introduced me to your channel.
Thanks for sharing your vulnerable side, very generous of you. I learned a lot from this video. It shows how subtle their warning signals can be, and how difficult it can be to pick up on.
I can wait, it'll be worth it. Much love to you guys!!
In case you ever wondered how long their memories are, I recently got my 23 year old Yellow Naped Amazon back after 15 years with "grandma." He remembered me within minutes, without a doubt. He was regurgitating for me almost as soon as he heard my voice (not that I'm encouraging that, but it was impressive; his grandma said he never did that for her.) It's amazing what they remember.
You help so many people and birds, please allow yourself some grace. You are beyond inspiring and give so much information.
Thank you for your honesty!!! No one is perfect. You do you & Morgan will get back to where you two need to be. You're so sweet and good.
I added this video to my self-care playlist because this is a message I know I'll need to hear again ❤️
I appreciate you so much Jamie, and I have to say your mini human is so outstanding, you and Dave are really doing something right with that kiddo.
Thank you for being vulnerable with us and sharing the highs, lows and the climbs in-between ❤️
I believe it is very cool that you recognized your own energy, the pressure you put on yourself and how she reacted to you. BRAVO sweetie!
Like so many other people here, the first video of yours I watched was the day you brought Morgan home. I loved every minute of her story and have also missed her this past year. You are amazing, so don’t take the bite as a negative.
Special shout out to Capri for being an awesome bird buddy! Thank you so much for sharing.
I do appreciate your humility in describing your reaction to Morgan’s bite. My 7 year-old Blue and Gold male has been biting after all this time. I feel like I failed. I dream and worry and I just feel so much better knowing a pro like you doesn’t deal with bites lightly. You give me hope. I just love your relationship with Morgan. Can’t believe I could get so emotional about this story. Your connection with her is just so tender and precious.
Ahhh, I missed Morgan so much, I'm glad you guys got to see each other again!!!!
So, I think a lot of people (including myself) were expecting (huh, funny about expectations) to see this like...running/flying across a field to each other slow mo movie style 😂 and while that didn't happen, I think what you showed was even more beautiful because it was REAL. Morgan has been gone for a year and coming back is brand new for both of you - you are not the same person and Morgan is not the same bird. It's a lesson to all of us, as bird owners and as people, to not lean on expectations of others but to enjoy the process, whatever it may be ❤❤
😭😭😭 definitely.
Couldn't have worded it better.
Awe, that was beautiful :)
@@BirdTricks Hi miss pretty, when do u often trim her claws? ☺
Cant wait to see how she is doing! Her story is what brought me to your channel💕
(4:00) You asked your viewers to predict how Morgan would react after a year away in your "Community post." Here was my prediction: _"My guess (from my macaw’s experience) is three stages of reaction: First, confusion ...then total excitement followed by some snips and bites for being away so long."_ *_.........Called that one!_*
*Additional Note:* Parrots bite. Sometimes they just bite for the hell of it. We look at biting in a completely different way than parrots do. I don't think parrots even understand how brutally painful their bites can be. It's the only real manifestation of power that they possess (as a non-proprietorial animal), so they use it whenever they damn well feel like it. It can be heartbreaking based on how we love them ........but nature is often heartbreaking.
Birdman I figure you can answer this for me how is it that the other birds in the flocks of birds known for being biters don’t end up with bites on them? It seems like one bite would cause massive damage. So why haven’t I seen evidence of bite marks among birds? It seems like an owner would point that out to us.
@@Joycemac I have two macaws that got into a fight just this morning (male and female). B&G vs Green wing. The B&G did suffer a facial cut from the green wing's beak before I could break them up ...so it does happen.
I've wondered the same thing, but parrots go at it beak-to-beak. That's mostly keratin-klashing and not like our soft, spongy "exposed flesh" that's easily nabbed from someone who doesn't fight back.
...They're just idiots.
Birdman lol, wonderful answer. After I posted my question I was watching another bird video and I noticed the damaged beak and remembered it happened when the birds first met. The bite the bird received was bad enough that one side of the beak has a massive dent in it. Thanks for the answer and including so much personality. How I wish I owned a bird.
Joyce McClaran I’ll tell you this much, a parrot is like a 2-year-old that can take off you fingers. This “Bird Tricks” couple are the best I’ve seen anywhere for dealing with parrots. They are unprecedented in their knowledge and how to manage their strange behavior.
If you do adopt a bird, watch their videos. They cover just about every issue you’ll encounter (especially with parrots).
As painful as they can be, my parrots are a wonderful experience and have taught me a great deal about patience.
All my best to you!
Morgan's story is what drew me to your channel. I really hope her owner is giving her the special attention she requires and deserves?!
Thank you for being so honest and being human and showing how you made the error. I admire you.
The girl who thinks she was helping the bird fly was adorable as hell
The way Capri backed around the corner at 1:05 😂😂 cracked me up, she's so stinkin CUTE
I've never even met her and I love her so much. She has such a good heart. She's such a kindred spirit to those birds. That whole family is. Lucky bird who's lucky enough to find those people. If you have to be in captivity I can't believe it gets better than that.
Really appreciate you sharing your struggles as well as successes. That's really important for all trainers, even if it's difficult!
I miss Morgan so much I'm so happy for this
Goggle products wtf u talking about
I was sad to see how Morgan had been progressing so beautifully, and now, this. Patty has a life too, and she did recognize that something had to be done for Morgan. None of us can keep up with our responsibilities all the time.
Yes I am not one to judge about not keeping up with nail trimming because despite the fact that I can do most of my birds nails on my own sometimes I let their nails get pretty sharp. Thank goodness for those pedi perch things, those help quite a bit.
Love you sharing your vulnerability! Have SO MUCH respect for you!! TFS
It's funny, I saw that first clip of you working, listened to what you were saying, and I saw that bite coming a milion miles away. Cuz I found myself in that situation so many times, not with birds but with horses. The moment you said "we only have 5 days" I just thought "oho"
We have a saying in the horse world, if you want to do something with your horse and act like you only have 15 minutes to do it, it's gonna take you the whole day, if you come up to him acting like you have the whole day, it's gonna take you 15 minutes.
This is something I keep in mind every single time I work with a horse, and even then just last week I fell into the same trap you did and got kicked nearly out of my horse's stable because I didn't listen to what he was telling me, I just kept thinking "I need to get this done."
It is a hard thing to do to set your expectations aside and look at the animal you're working with and how they're feeling, rather than to cave into pressure, but at the same time it's so rewarding, because the respect and trust you find when you actually listen is just invaluable, and in the long run you get so much more done.
But that said 20 years into horses and I still find myself making the same mistakes, it's really a constant work on yourself, but it also makes you that much more conscious of your state of mind, and when you do get a horse, or a bird, who's responsive, available and ready to work and trust you to have their back, there's just nothing else like it
Said soooo perfectly 😭😭
I'm not reading an essay this makes me have brain damage
Turns out people can't take jokes anymore
Btw I read it all
And the people that say I don't know English
English is my 2nd language
@@painpain4490 No, you were obviously already brain-damaged.
@@painpain4490 That says more about you than the author. It's a great story and relevant to Morgan.
I love this comment. So non-judgemental. Amazing attitude.
Wow, you really are the sweetest thing and of course your sensitivity is the reason why you’re so good at what you do. Such integrity, intelligence and compassion, it’s a joy to witness. Your wisdom is so needed. Awesome. ☀️
We all let our emotions and pressure get the best of us at times. You're beautiful inside and out and a great teacher. You got this. 🖤 🐦
You are the mom I want to be! Watching her daughter hide so the bird would feel safe to fly was awesome.
I was so shocked when she bit you! glad that things have calmed down now and morgan and comet together!
I love the way you reflect and learn from your experiences, Jamie. So honest with yourself and with us. No wonder you are such an awesome trainer, always thinking about how you could do even better.
I’m so excited! I found this channel when your most recent video was your first morgan video! Miss seeing her!
I love how honest and open you were!🖤 thank you for all the helpful information !!
Not to be rude, but why is that it seems like she’s doing worse than she was when she left you? In regards to flying and stuff, why doesn’t she fly at her home?
I've heard that the original owners that have given her away to patty tried to kidnap her when she was flying.
@@curlyemmm1232 that's terrible, but she could be flying inside like she does here, and the fact that her talons aren't trimmed and she's "skittish" is concerning me a lot.
@@jangeltrain you've got me there she does seem skittish and it is kinda heart breaking!
curlyemmm 123 woah woah woah the original owners tried to kidnap her when she was on a flight!? The **ck!?!! How does that even happen????
@@tepiddairy I don't know the specifics but it seems like they tried to lure her perhaps by calling her name?
you handled the bite sooo much better than i would have. basically being told f you from an old friend that you spent so much time working with already and then giving him a clean fresh start again the next day was great to see. even if i knew that it's not "personal" and who knows what morgan was thinking in that moment.. i still would be cranky, cautious and more distanced from then on. She can count herself lucky to have such an amazing trainer and i wish both of you the best for training and the upcoming trip
Awe Morgan is so beautiful. I got all emotional watching you get emotional
I cannot wait I loved the Morgan series 🥰👏🏼👏🏼
This woman is so amazing! You really are
I have two Blue and Golds. Watching what you have done with/for Morgan is very inspiring. I feel such love for that sweet bird and appreciation for you Jamie. I’m learning so much watching you work. You have the perfect tone and touch and you bring out the essence of that little bird so artfully. Fun to watch.
I feel like the pressure is on! Poor Morgan .... You did so much work on her and she was just doing so amazing. My heart hurts for you and her, but I can’t help but think maybe she missed you. So the only way to get you back in her life was to get you back her way ha. You two actually belong together in my honest opinion! ❤️❤️❤️
I love how real and down to earth you are! You inspire me!!
I'm sorry you got bit and things didn't go as good as you would have liked but this was good stuff to see;we learened something and it shows that eventhough you are a wonderful bird trainer, it shows you are also human. And it is a perfect example of what you guys were talking about in the last podcast,like you mentioned.
But it was great to see beautiful Morgan again. Her series is what got me hooked to your channel
I just love how you show it all. The good and the difficult.
I can't believe it's been 1 year!
I had a cockatoo for 15 years. It's like having a 2 year old for 60 years! To say parrots are a lot of work, is an understatement. They need time and patience and JamieLee is that calm person. I am awed with how she works with these birds. She's amazing.
The series on Morgan is what made me subscribe to this channel... binge watched it on x2 speed a week or two ago XD
I'm high as fuck and just watched on 2x speed I'm so dead lol
I think you hit it right about the energy levels. It's amazing how sensitive you are and Morgan reacts to this because she has also this sensitivity. I think you are a very beautiful person. I have no experience with birds but I see that tuning in and teaching requires a special and unique capacity, birds or humans. Remember to deep breathe.
Its always nice to chat and watch....
Super exciting video and nice to see morgan and comet together...
Thank you...
I will always appreciate premiere video...👍
My personal experience: I was gone for a while and when I returned, even before entering the room, my birds knew that I was there and they were exceedingly joyful, jumping and screaming around in the cage. I had never experienced such a powerful welcome from them. My birds always greeted me when I joined their company after a while with their signature voice they always used for greeting me but this was totally different.
I don't believe that birds get anxious when you are not there but once they see you again after a while, they experience untamable joy.
No bird, no expectations but love every video. You are perfect in your imperfect realness. Thank you for sharing your
The first video I saw of you was the one where you brought Morgan to your house and you were trying to make him get out of the little cage in the kitchen. Such an honest and touching video and I totally enjoyed the ending with the aviary scenes with the macaws, so beautiful! 💕😊
Ahhh Morgan! I'm glad we get to see more of her! She looks so beautiful, loved, and cared for!
Jamie my heart is singing for you and Morgan. No don't worry we are all human and get bit cuz our Energy is out of WACK and we are trying sooooo darn hard to please and help others in every way possible. I want to SAY OF COURSE WE WOULD ALL Want to see you and help you STAY at home so we can watch more of you on youtube/Patreon. I'm excited to see more of you and support you as much as I can from over here in Michigan. You have NO idea how badly I wanted you to be able to take on BOTH of them and now it's a for SURE! So happy to hear. You're a lovely lady and full of grace with our feathered friends. Love to you and your family my friend. :)
You should 100% keep Morgan just because he does better at your house
She does pretty well with Patty too. I think Patty just had some stuff going on the last year.
You sweet, sweet woman! You know your stuff. I know nothing of birds and I''m so taken with you and your videos. Your message about birds and training are transferable to ALL relationships.
I do not own birds nor plan to, I do have chickens. Honestly I have no idea how I got here, but I love your personality so I subscribed.
So many viewers have no idea why we watch these videos!
They day I randomly got Morgans's first video was the day I fell in love with your channel! Thank you for your awsome content!
I just got bird click bait! And I loved it... but dang wish it was now!
@@birdtricks Jamie this was sooo heartwarming, I felt so may emotions watching this from yours to Morgans and seeing the interactions I cant wait to see the next upload and see how it all goes. Thank you for posting♡
Amazing to see Morgan again! Why haven't you seen her for a year, and did her training stop since last time you saw her?
I wish Morgan were Jamie’s bird. I love their relationship and the progress they’ve had together cannot be compared. Seeing them together again is bittersweet.
Ahhh I cannot wait!! The Morgan series was the first one I watched!!
So cute how she moved to be closer to you on the perch at the end!
I love Morgan. I’ve missed seeing her. I hope you guys had fun together.
Parrots especially macaw the most beautiful birds. Thank you for this amazing tube
Macaw color not talking but African grey is the best talker ever
Awwwww. I love Morgan. You can tell you two have a connection. She loves you. It’s sad that she can’t be with you full time.
LOL I think that was her telling you Don't leave me so long Again Bless as you Do have that Special Bond with her now
You are so amazing to share your emotions and admit that you did not follow your own advice.. It makes you human and more relatable to your viewers and clients. Thank you for sharing your mistakes and reeling it back in!
The way she looked at you when u talk omg ❤️❤️
When you left her in the outside aviary and with the camera backing away for some inexplicable reason i got so emotional and cried a little, Morgan is so special. I hope she is happy.
Thank you for this video. I get where you coming from. I love all my birds but when I'm off emotionally they really react to it.. then I get frustrated and hurt when my birds are being"mean" love your channel and what you do . ♥️
My mum is a dog trainer and it's crazy the similarities. We overcomplicate and rush things a lot as humans. So glad I found your channel x
Edit: Comet is one handsome lad!