Thanks for the advice bro. Keep up the good work. I haven’t had any customers ask me to do something like that yet. If it happens I will definitely do it also.
I feel the industry is changing... More people don't want to pay for a paint correction and not worried about scratches etc. If you decon and clay bar a vehicle properly you can coat it without buffing. This area is a huge market and will become larger imo people want clean and gloss as well as super easy to maintain
man i get it and agree with the customer. light polishing isn’t necessarily needed to help ceramic stick. as long as it goes on a decon’d virgin surface it’s good to go. yes gloss is preferred but the protection and ease of cleaning a ceramic coated vehicle is king. if you don’t mind the scratches and know it’s going to get more via being a work truck, get your ceramic on and let your freak flag fly ✌🏽
Claying without polishing is wrong. Plus to get the absolute optimal gloss you must machine polish. Rotary will give a little better gloss than a DA but its minimal difference. However you always do what your top tier customers want done.
Spray coating? Nah. Real coating? Yes, but only because a light polish is needed to truly clean the paint in order to get the full lifespan of the coating.
A very very LIGHT polish can took only 2 hours of time. Prior to apply a classic ceramic coating ( not spray)is crucial at least a light polish to deeper clean or remove any light oxidation present unseen in human eye so coating bond properly.
It’s not wrong at all I had clients that wanted ceramic coating but their paint was in a danger zone with paint with 3.05 Mils to 2.96 I couldn’t polish that but did all necessary steps if you were to polish it I paint prep then coated it
OMG WHAT DID YOU DO????!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Of course you can do that... but Graphine products are pretty crappy. Scott HD did a battery of durabiliy tests on all the coatings and graphine products performed terribly. Go with Nano-ceramic or Turtle Wax Seal and shine, those are the good options.
The only issue I have is claying without polishing. Claying adds micro scratches, the only time I do it is if I polish afterwards. I would have done a full chemical decon but skipped the claying. In fact I do that quite often when customers don't want to polish before applying a coating.
@@edg9567 even mitts & blocks can leave behind micromarring, particularly on softer clear coats. It’s always about selling what the customer wants, not what you think they want. Same goes for selling cars, insurance, sheds, you name it. Only sell what customers want or you won’t make sales 🤷♂️
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You all are so happy and smiling. I love it! Thanks for sharing!
Oh big time! We're like that 80% of the time 😅
Thanks for the advice bro. Keep up the good work.
I haven’t had any customers ask me to do something like that yet.
If it happens I will definitely do it also.
I feel the industry is changing... More people don't want to pay for a paint correction and not worried about scratches etc. If you decon and clay bar a vehicle properly you can coat it without buffing. This area is a huge market and will become larger imo people want clean and gloss as well as super easy to maintain
Love to see pick up trucks being detailed! Awesome content!
This truck was clean!
Thanks for all the awesome content and awesome advice!!! I personally appreciate it 💯 ❤
man i get it and agree with the customer. light polishing isn’t necessarily needed to help ceramic stick. as long as it goes on a decon’d virgin surface it’s good to go. yes gloss is preferred but the protection and ease of cleaning a ceramic coated vehicle is king. if you don’t mind the scratches and know it’s going to get more via being a work truck, get your ceramic on and let your freak flag fly ✌🏽
Claying without polishing is wrong. Plus to get the absolute optimal gloss you must machine polish. Rotary will give a little better gloss than a DA but its minimal difference. However you always do what your top tier customers want done.
Spray coating? Nah. Real coating? Yes, but only because a light polish is needed to truly clean the paint in order to get the full lifespan of the coating.
A very very LIGHT polish can took only 2 hours of time. Prior to apply a classic ceramic coating ( not spray)is crucial at least a light polish to deeper clean or remove any light oxidation present unseen in human eye so coating bond properly.
It’s not wrong at all I had clients that wanted ceramic coating but their paint was in a danger zone with paint with 3.05 Mils to 2.96 I couldn’t polish that but did all necessary steps if you were to polish it I paint prep then coated it
What did yall charge for this job if you don't mind me asking?
Dang, completely forgot to mention this haha. It was $300
@@DetailGroove 🤣 . Sounds fair 🤙. Let's go!
OMG WHAT DID YOU DO????!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Of course you can do that... but Graphine products are pretty crappy. Scott HD did a battery of durabiliy tests on all the coatings and graphine products performed terribly. Go with Nano-ceramic or Turtle Wax Seal and shine, those are the good options.
was it a real test ? or a iron spray torture test.
Ahem didn’t you hear the part about the customer wanting this type of seal,like he said “it’s what the customer wants”.🤷🏻♂️👍
Nope no paint enhancement nor a paint correction offered if the customer isnt paying for it and is aware of the outcome.
agreed!
The only issue I have is claying without polishing. Claying adds micro scratches, the only time I do it is if I polish afterwards. I would have done a full chemical decon but skipped the claying. In fact I do that quite often when customers don't want to polish before applying a coating.
the thing is alot of people dont care about scratches , but they do care about the longevity of the coating they paid for.
Ever heard of clay mits or clay blocks? Not as aggressive as clay bars. Been having a clay and wax service without any issues for YEARS.
@@edg9567 even mitts & blocks can leave behind micromarring, particularly on softer clear coats. It’s always about selling what the customer wants, not what you think they want. Same goes for selling cars, insurance, sheds, you name it. Only sell what customers want or you won’t make sales 🤷♂️
Bro just get a French drain build right down the center of the bay stop being a BROKE BOI
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I use there stuff but I tell them I don’t warranty it