This just happened to me last week. They acted like my best bros and as soon as I got fired for some bullshit (manager didn’t like me) they literally started leaving me on read.
Fuckin A man. Got laid off two months ago. It’s like they just toss you to the side like an old piece of furniture and no one reaches out and tries to help you
Turn that hate into motivation. Learn how to invest, use the Netflix time to learn new things where your passion lies. I knew somebody who said what you said couple years back so be started making his own news/ journalism channel as this was a passion and just after Jan this year he was given a high paying field journalist role with a well known organization.
Lol i just got my first office job. It aint that bad man. It beats tossing boxes off the back of a semi truck or being out side in the heat of summer cutting grass, both of which I’ve done in the past. Honestly, it is what you make it.
Worked in healthcare for nearly five years taking care of every type of patient imaginable. Started working in an office about two months ago and my god it's amazing. Seriously, everyday I wake up without back pain and sore muscles. Feels amazing
@@albertmartinez561only if you have no personal ambitions outside or inside of work. Same thing with having your own business, if you don’t adapt you’re done.
I left my 100k manager job at a logistics op. because of exactly this. I make way less money now but I never have to listen to people's stupid problems or gossip anymore and that's priceless to me!
@@ItsChrisFtwI've been selling my art to cover expenses; plus I was able to save a large sum of money while working that I have as an emergency fund (the majority in a roth ira that is passively making me money). With your sales experience you could start your own business easily. Have you ever done landscaping or anything like that? Maybe you have an art or craft you could monetize? It's a totally different experience "doing sales" for yourself versus doing it for a souless corporation.
I work in government and I'm starting to research how to start a consulting business. I have an area of expertise, there's a growing need due to the increasing industry regulation, and I already have about 200 contacts that I've worked with directly to pitch my services to. Just need to understand how to get it up off the ground and not fail before it gets profitable. That's how I plan on creating a way out of the office side of things. That and I can't stand being in middle management.
That seems really stupid. Throwing away a majority of your earning power because you can't stand gossip? Why don't you just ignore the shit you don't care about?
Someone should put this clip back to back with Tim ranting about how working an office job is the peak of civilization. I’m not even sure but maybe Tim’s ultra irony was turned on at that point. He made a thorough and convincing case of it though. You’re right. Some people gotta be cogs. It’s not the worst thing in the world. I’m mostly content with the amount of influence I have in my job.
Yea really, I mean I don't work office job but it's a blue collar job. Same basic circumstance. Not everyone is lucky enough to be in the right place right time like Joe and Tim here.
You say that like he hasn't worked 30 years in the entertainment industry to get to this point. Stop being envious and jealous and go make something of yourself, because right now you sounding like a salty loser.
@@captain_malaria How about metal roofing in the Canadian winter? It's hard work, tough work, but it does not kill the soul. It's moving your body and defeating the elements that want to kill you. It's creating something with your own two hands. Man was made to toil.
I loved this clip. Accurate, and it hurts. So many jobs are truly soul sucking. We trade our freedom for security. Interesting how Joe said he thought he was a loser because he saw everyone else around him "succeeding" and he didn't realize it's also just an act.
It’s true. The biggest reason why work from home is popular is because people don’t need to do all the BS stuff like pretending to work. Instead they can truly be more productive by doing other things like exercise or getting ahead on other tasks.
Discovered a bit of a cheat code in regards to that. I take a toilet break every half hour past the hour. For example at 9:30, 10:30, 11:30, 12:30 (then lunch at 1:30) and then toilet breaks every hour after that. Day just seems to fly by much quicker.
It’s the trades we make. A) Work a physical job, get a fucked up body but have good friends and feel like your work is valuable. B) Work a desk job, have a in tact body but have no/boring friends and feel like your work is monotonous and pointless. Source: Worked as an engineer for 4 years checking designs for compliance, leaving engineering to just stack shelves for a couple months because I hate my life.
But even a desk job cause fuck with your back, it has to be better for the body to do labor rather than sit all day. At least with physical labor youre stretching and using your muscles
@@isaihvega9928you can easily after your office job just go to the gym to stay fit. These labor jobs break your body past the point of daily healthy exercise
Desk job with destroy your mental Power eventually your Brain capacity due to âge and they replace you with a younger mind.. i saw so many software engineer lose their job at 55
You kinda nailed the job culture. I was a trucker of 27 years. I traveled to and through 45 states, and three provinces of Canada. The most beautiful office view from behind the wheel. It’s hard work, but the industry was pretty good to me. Office workers were the biggest pain in the ass. Thankfully, we had maybe five minutes of contact per day. You’re obviously a very intelligent person. Find your niches and stay with it. You will look back some day and realize you’ve gained a lot of knowledge and discipline in these various endeavors that you currently feel are a waste of time. Keep the faith.
I have a "cubicle" job in IT. Super incredibly stressful, if one my cloud servers goes down or has an issue the entire company comes to a screeching halt. Because it is so stressful I had a stroke at work, take an ambulance to the hospital... job gave me two weeks off. Almost died giving my all for the company... TWO WEEKS. What's worse, I had to go back after two weeks with half my body numb and "dead" because if I lose my job I lose my health insurance and then I'm just dead. All this for a $75k/year. 6'0" 175 lbs, excercise, but stress still got me and my body may never fully recover. Choose wisely.
Yep, worked in IT for years and now in software. I'm ready for a change. I totally know how you feel. I want to find a way out of tech and never go back to it. That kind of stress will take years off your life and the company might fire you anyways. Live cheap, save your money and then save your life and health.
You may or may not see this, but i’m keeping you in my prayers. Our life on this earth is very short, and sometimes we can begin to obsess over the world around us. I truly encourage you to read the Bible. Jesus brought a message that has stayed true to this day, and offers guidance through any situation you are in. The power of prayer is a powerful tool for those who believe. “Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.” Matthew 6:34 “Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?” Matthew 6:27 “If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.”” Matthew 21:22
Im a construction worker and i actually enjoy my job. Ya it can be tough and stressful but i like the guys and the work is interesting and feels good when you finish and keeps me active and in shape(to a degree, i still eat healthy and go to the gym).
Agreed man. I havent worked construction but my favorite job so far was working as a ramp agent at the airport. Your outside with your crew, in the sun and it’s different every day. Pay wasnt horrible and we got free food from the catering and tips occasionally from the passengers. I would take that over working in a cubicle with fluorescent light slaving away on a computer any day.
Hell yeah man, nothing more satisfying than going home a little sore and tired. Feels like i actually did something and then going home getting stoned and relaxing, nothing beats it
That is one of the reasons the film American Beauty ages well with how relatable it is with being trapped at a job that pays the bills but you absolutely hate it.
HR is the exception. They live and breath that sanitized, corporate lifestyle and it's their mission to make sure you do too. We call them "the fun Police".
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Tech worker here: if you work from home, you can do the work that you need to do (which some of us actually find interesting) and have a couple of little meetings a week with colleagues. No big deal- I have no idea as to the political views of any of them and there just isn’t any reason to worry about that. It’s a big difference to those 90s offices with Bill at the coffee machine.
You a technician/spécialist.. thèse never needed an office cause you are a "spécialist". Corporate culture is facinating to look at.. Soo many unfunctionnal one yet the Corporation Makes $$$.. you wonder how they got There... Other offices are fun and Nice but bankrupt
Working over 40 years in corporatocracy , I have developed a whole two personalities . The soulless corporate schmuck with no personality that others don’t see as anything remotely confrontational. And then there is the real me, it also helps at this point NOT to associate with anyone outside of work from work. Your friends and family that’s separate . To keep my job I have proactively asked for pay cuts and to learn adjacent responsibilities however . I have outlived 1500 cohorts throughout my career .
How this hits. Just hit seven years in corporate America. Started in audit then moved to corporate finance. The people you interact with are lifeless and soulless bots. I have realized to succeed in a S&P 500 company you can’t have a soul or religious belief. It’s about the job and making your boss happy so you’re the next individual promoted. I don’t know what to do honestly. My skillset is finance and that only applies to corporations. Stay strong and stay positive people.
No it’s not a “prison”. The real answer is MOST corporate/office workers just never left high school and it is literally the extended adult version, borderline meaningless tasks pushing papers/gossip by the water coolers/etc etc.
I went from the field as a foreman electrician into the office as a project engineer. I lasted 2 months before begging to go back in the field. I was too far gone after the military and field work for too long. Couldn’t handle it. First time in my life I ever considered forever sleep
Veteran here, worked in the field as a utility worker, then in the office. I couldn’t take it anymore then became a foreman myself and back in the field. I love being outside in the element. Stay strong my brother.
I’m 28 and have been looking for work for 6 months with no success. Also because I don’t know what I want to do and I want to avoid office work as much as possible after experiencing it for a while. It is the worst way to spend your life. It kills all the joy in your life
I'm seriously considering leaving my office job for something outdoors and active like construction. Having to sit still staring at a screen for 8 hours a day is making me go mad.
@@yew6981 join construction, I worked as a civil engineering designer for 3.5 years in an office environment (bored as hell) then got sent to site and realised how much happier everyone is including myself, now moved to site engineering and is definitely the way forward for moral (better pay too)!
@@ketchup2147I think it's because you are actually doing something and not pretending to be doing something. Many office jobs is selling the illusion that you are productive.
I'm 75 and so grateful that I never did the office grind. Worked construction jobs here n there n 4 years usaf n then off to Alaska. Logging a cpl seasons, oil rigs, slope work here n there but most of my life was in the bush. Trapping in winter, hand logging the Yukon river, dog mushing, Iditarod, fossil ivory hunting, bit of bootlegging and pot sales but got away frome all that shit 39 years ago in AA. Hell of a nice life I had and still do. My son, Lauro is following that life. Simple log cabin on land he's fully paid for, no debt, appears on Mountain Men Alaska for History Channel, mushing and Iditarod also. He's up on the slope now caribou hunting with the dogs and other mushers. Not much money but a great life. He's a hard worker, 27 and living the life. Can't imagine him in an office. I have a spiritual connection with some kind of higher power that I don't understand but am grateful for. Nature is so cool. Not to be found in an office...at least not for me... Great show Joe
Ive been calling going to the office "going to brain jail" since a was a wee 18 year old engineering co-op student. Knew my first 3 months working in one I was going to hate every minute of it. WFH was life changing but the dream is already gone, so some middle manager can justify thier jobs.
I worked on the floor in a factory for 6 months, and then my boss brought me into the office, and the difference is INSANE. No more having to wear tattered shitty clothes, no more being in a hot factory in the summer, no more standing for 10 hours a day, no more eyes watering and coughing for 10 hours (spicy stuff in the air), no more 60 hour work weeks with 1 day off, no more getting yelled at by supervisors who show no respect. I’ve only been in the office for 6 months, but it’s MUCH better and doesn’t break my body down physically and allows me to have a 2 day weekend.
Better doesn't mean good. The problem is standards in society are so low now that people now view horrible working conditions, like in an office, as some kind of decent thing. It would drive most people who ever lived to suicide if they were forced to take part in it, but modern day people have been conditioned to accept it in addition to many other horrible things such as living perpetually in debt, processed food, propaganda on TV, etc.
I mean I’d say there are bigger issues, maybe now that your in a better position you should I dunno advocate for your fellow workers to be treated decently on the factory floor instead of dick sucking your boss
Problem is, the longer you’re in it the more trapped you get. I’m in my mid 30’s, sole provider with wife and kids, and my salary is in the upper 100’s. Hard to leave that security and try to start my own thing at this point. My strategy is to invest in real estate on the side until I’m free.
This is the absolute worst part about it. I'm making pennies on the hour while all the managers make $100k+ per year. I'm working on an IT help desk where I get shit talked to every day by angry Karens because their printers don't work. It sucks because I'm doing all this just so I can add this shitty job to my resume in hopes that I can land a bullshit interview with another shitty company in a higher tier role making a few more bucks an hour. It doesn't feel worth it man.
@@JoshuaParnell-k2y i totally relate. Feels like it's gonna take 20 years of BS and climbing the ladder slowly to get where you want. Personally i decided to work another BS job and that's IT! The world is ending man we can't enslave ourselves for a few extra pennies. 2 years from now I'll work whatever doesn't make me miserable and pays me decently even if it's being a janitor.
What makes them any different than you? You're make it seem like they started out rich. Did you not hear them say they had shitty jobs too? but they figured out a way to get where they are now.
@@baldcheddar he/she wasn't bitching about Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon, but was just saying not all of us can do one specific career or job that isn't corporate. If we all did one job world would collapse... And this wasn't no low show to Tim or Joe... Just a saying like hey i wish i did other job but it's not possible for me
@@baldcheddar Imagine there were no Office jobs. The world would collapse… but in the other hand, the salary for Office jobs would get very High! If nobody did them, they would have to increase the salary. And then people would probably do them again…. But listen, Office jobs arent that bad, we just live in a era where we have crazy High expectations to our life. Not everyone can be Joe Rogan or Bill Gates. Not in todays world, Maybe in the future in a Utopia with all kind of fancy Technology.
I worked general sales on the floor at a big box electronics store for a year and a half, it was my first big corp I worked for because I’ve always worked for small businesses. My gosh, the corporate environment was so fake it blew my mind. I honestly could not believe how clueless most of the people working there are. And it was so cult-like in their approach to everything. Never ever doing that again or working for a bigger corporation again!!! If anyone was/is considering working in a big box retail store and you have and level of self awareness, run away from those places and never set foot in them for work!!!
I was a teacher at school for ten years and last month I moved to the office building with corporate to make curriculum. I am slowly losing my mind. Each day. Using the computer at a shared desk. My back hurts sitting on the chair all day. My only joy is going outside during lunch time. I need to do something.
I work an office job. While all those points are very true, I'd still choose it over working in the field, under the sun, in a factory or out in the sea, plus I can work from home! You still have to make your dough one way or the other to make it through life, not unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth or won the lottery.
Most of what is said here has nothing to do with office jobs and could be said about most jobs. They’re just complaining about small talk and having to deal with coworkers or the tediousness of work and the fact we all do it even though we don’t like it because we need money and jobs need doing. I’ve worked many different physical labor jobs, drove a truck delivering furniture with two other people in the small cab, warehouse jobs, construction, cashier and multiple office jobs. What they say pretty much fits all of those.
I tried the corporate world, I hold on to it for 3 years and then I was fired due to the covid era. Best thing that ever happened to me, now I'm my own boss, I work alone, I make money and I'm happy at last.
These are extroverted people trying to do introverted people’s work. Am introvert schmoozing and networking all day would be hell. I’ll take my office job over that any day.
As a plumber nothing worse than a office manager telling you how to do your job when they have never step out the office delt with a customer or fixed anything in there life they tell us how to do our job then ask us to hang a pisture on the wall
I somehow escaped that world, was miraculously able to get in on a more blue collar type work. Funny thing is I make more now, less stress, and lost weight the moment I started. And despite some physical demands of the work, it's actually more challenging mentally, but in a good way. I'll never go back. Sure, being an office drone beats some dead end retail/service job. But only because there's a little more money in it.
Having done both moderate physical demanding work, sedentary office work, and physically damaging exercise I can say the most tired I ever felt was doing tedious office work (sorts forms in alphabetical order) to clarify not just more tired but a different kind of tired. When I did even days of intensive physical exercise my body felt tired but I felt mentally alert and positive same with the moderate physical work but on the other hand after doing 8 hours of mind numbing work i felt like my brain had been beaten with a sledgehammer. I couldn’t think clearly I felt stressed and irritable it was awful
As a person struggling in this EXACT environment jesus man like when i was it keeps me up at night i mean on my day off (night before i have to go back to work ya know like sunday) i find myself staying awake all night so i can be awake and concious somewhere that isnt work or like i’ve been recently even having nightmares about my job dude like im trying everything to get out of the matrix shit is absolute torture but what i really cant stand is the praises i get for having this job or how normal try to make it seem like man this is the “american dream” people boast on about….shits a sick joke
It's quite literally slavery. If anyone wanted to know what slavery must've felt like (at least mentally-speaking), this is pretty much what it is. I can't enjoy anything during my work time. Not music, not movies, not even fresh air. You can't really be your authentic self for a very long period of time, and that's insane.
@@ramsesjfg7668 whats even scarier is i have watched this show it newer before i got the job called severance and my job is exactly like that show not in a good way
@@ryanthomas8155You gotta find something worth living for outside of work man. If all you care about is work to the point you’re thinking about it on your day off, then either your job is really toxic or you need something to spend your money on that drives you to want to work. I really encourage you to read the Bible, the word of God has helped billions of people find purpose and joy in life, no matter the background or creed you come from. It’s truly like no other.
I can't stay at the same job more than a year or so. I always end up hating the customers. Working with people I don't really like is bad enough, but working for and providing services to people I dispise makes me glad the population is declining.
Reading the comments, it seems I'm lucky. Work hybrid, which means only two days in the office and the rest from home. Plus I enjoy the work and am paid very well. Overtime is seldomly an issue.
They aren't wrong, but you gotta work and it's hell of a lot better than the shitty factory jobs I've had or the low paying cooking jobs I've had. We can't all be Podcasters and comedians
This is the perspective of two guys who that wasn’t good for. A lot of people benefit greatly from the relationships they make at work and the structure and reward of work. It’s not as bad as they make it seem. Sometimes you just need to get your mind right. One role doesn’t have to be forever.
I work in software development 8 hours of thinking non stop solving problems my brain doesn't have any break even after work my brain always finding a way to solve it even I refuse to think about it, it's like my brain have a life of it's own like auto pilot fawk
Yes there is. I process insurance claims. There are literally thousands and thousands.. tens of thousands. We never have a shortage of work. There is always something to do. During covid, our claim volume went down alot due to nobody leaving their house, but it didnt last long.
Not hardly. To each their own. I do a mix of manual labor and driving for my niche job. Vut warehouse work?! Cant do it. Sales is preferred but im not giving up a good long term job
the concept of "escaping the matrix" is such a braindead analogy for real life that it's not even a concept worth acknowledging. But, unless you're actually living off the grid and no one (and I mean no one) knows who you are, i'd say you're still firmly in the "matrix"
I left sales due to fake ppl everyone pretending they happy but everyone miserable beneath the surface while randomly letting you know now I'm learning to work for myself while challenging is freeing
Well I think many jobs have that expectation of social conformity and small talk and pleasantries and it's fine if you are a genuine optimistic person or enjoy meaningless conversations etc. depends what sort of office too data entry would be like factory work just repetitive a desk job suits some peoples physical needs though not everyone can be on their feet all day or do lots of heavy lifting but someone at a conveyor belt can get carpel tunnel syndrome or whatever. If you work in customer service and sales like I did in heels usually for eight hours a day you may have vascular problems starting by 30 though I enjoyed my job otherwise I liked talking to them and helping them usually before I became so cynical of people generally. I don't like fake type salespeople either I have very high standards because I did the job myself for so long.
I'm a third-generation Union ironworker. My little sister works in that I'm kind of environment. She's freaking miserable. I on the other hand get to work outside and cuss and spit and joke around and work hard and play hard. And it's a good living.
For three years of my Army career, I had a job in a cubicle farm working alongside civilians. It was the easier job I ever had. I HATED it! I can’t be in that environment. I asked them to send me to Fort Hood and went right to Afghanistan. Cool!
My worst mistake in my first career was leaving the classroom to be a curriculum leader/instructional coach. Total bullshit job. Schools should have teachers, a principal, and an AP if it's a big school. Teachers should run their own classrooms. Instructional coaching is 100% bullshit. Now, I work in data centers as a field service engineer. It's real work. I deal with many project managers who are as useless as instructional coaches. Glad I don't have a bullshit job anymore. A good PM is gold, but they are in the small minority.
Yep, it does feel like prison after a while and I did it for a long time! It’s a miserable existence and they don’t even have Lipton Cup O’ Soup in most offices like they did in the 70s??
Joe's lucky his escape was something creative that had a road to success. I'm a juggler and the greatest professional juggler in the world Anthony Gatto literally quit juggling to open a concrete business because he was tired of making no money. He even starred in a Cirque du Soleil show and still was only making maybe $50k/year
Its Its funny i have an office job however its not really a true office job. I do IT for Law enforcement. So sometimes im in my office normally im working on different systems and hardware so im never just in my office. However besides that the stuff i do isnt the same as a normal office person my work i do isnt for some corporation. It helps the law enforcement and the fire department do there job and it feels great to know that i am the one who helps them do there jobs. Obviously im not the one going out doing the job. However it would he very difficult almost impossible now days to do the job without all the technology that both PD and Fire uses.
I'm not even religious, but thank GOD for remote work. It makes the work day infinitely more tolerable. I used to be absolutely miserable working in an office, waking up absurdly early, wearing work appropriate clothes, the hellish commute there and back, then being forced to be stuck in this one place for EIGHT hours straight, even if you only have a few hours worth of work to do. That's not even getting into other factors like interacting with coworkers you're not friends with/potentially dislike all day, having to shit in a public bathroom. I will never go back to the office.
My job got a new woke HR director last year. Of course, we had to learn about pronouns and all the gender BS. Best one yet was last week. Got a mass email to all employees that 1 employee in the building has a cinnamon allergy so, of course, now not a single person in the entire building can ever bring in cinnamon rolls ever again. Thanks Karen.
The key to freedom is not buying stuff that puts you into debt and forces you to work a job that you hate.
Absolutely true. So many cheap and available resources. Be a bear, pick up little nuggets of gold the fat cats drop. 👍
Are you guys talking about being a hobo?
@@Heopful no
They are talking about having the living costs of a hobo, and stuffing away your earnings so you can have FU money@@Heopful
Like a house?
The saddest thing is all the friendships in the office are fake. Once you lose your job they don't call you again
Absolutely
This just happened to me last week. They acted like my best bros and as soon as I got fired for some bullshit (manager didn’t like me) they literally started leaving me on read.
Fuckin A man. Got laid off two months ago. It’s like they just toss you to the side like an old piece of furniture and no one reaches out and tries to help you
Yup so true. And god forbid you leave for a better job. They aren’t happy or encouraging. Completely fake.
Not true for me at least
I hate it…I hate the fake, phony, dull corporate bullshit
Turn that hate into motivation. Learn how to invest, use the Netflix time to learn new things where your passion lies. I knew somebody who said what you said couple years back so be started making his own news/ journalism channel as this was a passion and just after Jan this year he was given a high paying field journalist role with a well known organization.
Lol i just got my first office job. It aint that bad man. It beats tossing boxes off the back of a semi truck or being out side in the heat of summer cutting grass, both of which I’ve done in the past.
Honestly, it is what you make it.
That's a good mindset. You are absolutely right
Give it a few years... it'll get to ya!
Worked in healthcare for nearly five years taking care of every type of patient imaginable. Started working in an office about two months ago and my god it's amazing. Seriously, everyday I wake up without back pain and sore muscles. Feels amazing
@@albertmartinez561only if you have no personal ambitions outside or inside of work. Same thing with having your own business, if you don’t adapt you’re done.
Now you're a domesticated house cat 🙄
I worked a corporate desk job and this is so true. The loops around the office, waiting for lunch, looking busy, talking about random shit.
I left my 100k manager job at a logistics op. because of exactly this. I make way less money now but I never have to listen to people's stupid problems or gossip anymore and that's priceless to me!
Office politics are the absolute worst
What is it you do? I work in sales and am looking to get tf out. The money is not worth it as it's absolutely crushing my soul.
@@ItsChrisFtwI've been selling my art to cover expenses; plus I was able to save a large sum of money while working that I have as an emergency fund (the majority in a roth ira that is passively making me money). With your sales experience you could start your own business easily. Have you ever done landscaping or anything like that? Maybe you have an art or craft you could monetize? It's a totally different experience "doing sales" for yourself versus doing it for a souless corporation.
I work in government and I'm starting to research how to start a consulting business. I have an area of expertise, there's a growing need due to the increasing industry regulation, and I already have about 200 contacts that I've worked with directly to pitch my services to. Just need to understand how to get it up off the ground and not fail before it gets profitable.
That's how I plan on creating a way out of the office side of things. That and I can't stand being in middle management.
That seems really stupid. Throwing away a majority of your earning power because you can't stand gossip? Why don't you just ignore the shit you don't care about?
We can't all smoke dope with other stoners and get 100 million bucks.
Someone should put this clip back to back with Tim ranting about how working an office job is the peak of civilization. I’m not even sure but maybe Tim’s ultra irony was turned on at that point. He made a thorough and convincing case of it though.
You’re right. Some people gotta be cogs. It’s not the worst thing in the world. I’m mostly content with the amount of influence I have in my job.
Yea really, I mean I don't work office job but it's a blue collar job. Same basic circumstance. Not everyone is lucky enough to be in the right place right time like Joe and Tim here.
You say that like he hasn't worked 30 years in the entertainment industry to get to this point. Stop being envious and jealous and go make something of yourself, because right now you sounding like a salty loser.
Doesn't mean you have to work at an office. We're all free to do whatever we want...
why not
A lot worse jobs than working in an office pretending to be busy. Getting paid for that...theres a lot worse ways people make money.
Yeah, it's soulless work for sure, but it beats working in a coal mine.
@@MrHeavy466 at least coal mining is honest work. It doesnt wear the soul out the same
@@trequor I don't think you've heard about coal mining. Or metal roofing work in Arizona in the summer.
@@captain_malaria How about metal roofing in the Canadian winter? It's hard work, tough work, but it does not kill the soul. It's moving your body and defeating the elements that want to kill you. It's creating something with your own two hands. Man was made to toil.
@@trequorWears out the lungs
I loved this clip. Accurate, and it hurts. So many jobs are truly soul sucking. We trade our freedom for security. Interesting how Joe said he thought he was a loser because he saw everyone else around him "succeeding" and he didn't realize it's also just an act.
He was 20
We also didn’t get security out of the deal 😂
office jobs always seemned to me like you do 2 hours of productive work and the rest of the day you are bullshitting around trying to kill time
Lol I'm in an office job and people act like this 🤣🤣🤣 I don't though lmfaoo I'll throw up the duece sign and that's
We are in moving ocean freight so we are pretty busy most the day lmfaooo
Now WFH is great…i work 2 hrs and bs the rest of the day at home
It’s true. The biggest reason why work from home is popular is because people don’t need to do all the BS stuff like pretending to work. Instead they can truly be more productive by doing other things like exercise or getting ahead on other tasks.
Discovered a bit of a cheat code in regards to that. I take a toilet break every half hour past the hour. For example at 9:30, 10:30, 11:30, 12:30 (then lunch at 1:30) and then toilet breaks every hour after that. Day just seems to fly by much quicker.
It’s the trades we make.
A) Work a physical job, get a fucked up body but have good friends and feel like your work is valuable.
B) Work a desk job, have a in tact body but have no/boring friends and feel like your work is monotonous and pointless.
Source: Worked as an engineer for 4 years checking designs for compliance, leaving engineering to just stack shelves for a couple months because I hate my life.
But even a desk job cause fuck with your back, it has to be better for the body to do labor rather than sit all day. At least with physical labor youre stretching and using your muscles
@@isaihvega9928you can easily after your office job just go to the gym to stay fit. These labor jobs break your body past the point of daily healthy exercise
People who do one want the other.
Desk job with destroy your mental Power eventually your Brain capacity due to âge and they replace you with a younger mind.. i saw so many software engineer lose their job at 55
You kinda nailed the job culture. I was a trucker of 27 years. I traveled to and through 45 states, and three provinces of Canada. The most beautiful office view from behind the wheel. It’s hard work, but the industry was pretty good to me. Office workers were the biggest pain in the ass. Thankfully, we had maybe five minutes of contact per day.
You’re obviously a very intelligent person. Find your niches and stay with it. You will look back some day and realize you’ve gained a lot of knowledge and discipline in these various endeavors that you currently feel are a waste of time.
Keep the faith.
I have a "cubicle" job in IT. Super incredibly stressful, if one my cloud servers goes down or has an issue the entire company comes to a screeching halt. Because it is so stressful I had a stroke at work, take an ambulance to the hospital... job gave me two weeks off. Almost died giving my all for the company... TWO WEEKS. What's worse, I had to go back after two weeks with half my body numb and "dead" because if I lose my job I lose my health insurance and then I'm just dead. All this for a $75k/year. 6'0" 175 lbs, excercise, but stress still got me and my body may never fully recover. Choose wisely.
Yep, worked in IT for years and now in software. I'm ready for a change. I totally know how you feel. I want to find a way out of tech and never go back to it. That kind of stress will take years off your life and the company might fire you anyways. Live cheap, save your money and then save your life and health.
You may or may not see this, but i’m keeping you in my prayers. Our life on this earth is very short, and sometimes we can begin to obsess over the world around us. I truly encourage you to read the Bible. Jesus brought a message that has stayed true to this day, and offers guidance through any situation you are in. The power of prayer is a powerful tool for those who believe.
“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
Matthew 6:34
“Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?”
Matthew 6:27
“If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.””
Matthew 21:22
@@wf86448big love for sharing truth. Praying for you OP.
Im a construction worker and i actually enjoy my job. Ya it can be tough and stressful but i like the guys and the work is interesting and feels good when you finish and keeps me active and in shape(to a degree, i still eat healthy and go to the gym).
Agreed man. I havent worked construction but my favorite job so far was working as a ramp agent at the airport. Your outside with your crew, in the sun and it’s different every day. Pay wasnt horrible and we got free food from the catering and tips occasionally from the passengers. I would take that over working in a cubicle with fluorescent light slaving away on a computer any day.
Hell yeah man, nothing more satisfying than going home a little sore and tired. Feels like i actually did something and then going home getting stoned and relaxing, nothing beats it
Office space
That is one of the reasons the film American Beauty ages well with how relatable it is with being trapped at a job that pays the bills but you absolutely hate it.
For sure. Also Office Space and Fight Club
Most office jobs don’t require 40 hours a week. This was for factory work. But I don’t see these office jobs evolving any time soon.
HR is the exception. They live and breath that sanitized, corporate lifestyle and it's their mission to make sure you do too. We call them "the fun Police".
Tech worker here: if you work from home, you can do the work that you need to do (which some of us actually find interesting) and have a couple of little meetings a week with colleagues. No big deal- I have no idea as to the political views of any of them and there just isn’t any reason to worry about that.
It’s a big difference to those 90s offices with Bill at the coffee machine.
You a technician/spécialist.. thèse never needed an office cause you are a "spécialist". Corporate culture is facinating to look at.. Soo many unfunctionnal one yet the Corporation Makes $$$.. you wonder how they got There... Other offices are fun and Nice but bankrupt
I am fully remote and I love it, except when it's time to cut headcounts to please shareholders. I'm the first they're going to drop.
Working over 40 years in corporatocracy , I have developed a whole two personalities . The soulless corporate schmuck with no personality that others don’t see as anything remotely confrontational. And then there is the real me, it also helps at this point NOT to associate with anyone outside of work from work. Your friends and family that’s separate . To keep my job I have proactively asked for pay cuts and to learn adjacent responsibilities however . I have outlived 1500 cohorts throughout my career .
There are days where I just sit there with no assignments or projects, so I just take free HTML courses and shit.
That’s a dream job bro. You can use your downtime to learn shit. Great way to get new skills!
@@fruitloopz311 Actually, I have gotten a lot busier. I’m overseeing an entire program now, and it’s seeing the most growth it’s ever seen.
@@fruitloopz311That’s what people who have never done it long term say. Having no work to do is torture.
@@SomeBodyIUsedToKnow8 Literally me the last couple months and I'm losing my mind. I'm just grateful to be employed though.
Html??? Isn't that like 1999 relevance?
Worst part is that you are not allowed to talk to anyone 😮 and you sat staring at the screen the whole day.
Where do you work that you're not allowed to talk to anyone? Sounds like you need a new job.
Tom Dillon has such a way with words. Like he can talk about the most mundane regular shit and make it captivating as hell.
Yes Tom dillon is very inspirational
Im lucky to work from home. I did hate the office though, acting like your busy is the most depressing thing.
How this hits. Just hit seven years in corporate America. Started in audit then moved to corporate finance. The people you interact with are lifeless and soulless bots. I have realized to succeed in a S&P 500 company you can’t have a soul or religious belief. It’s about the job and making your boss happy so you’re the next individual promoted. I don’t know what to do honestly. My skillset is finance and that only applies to corporations. Stay strong and stay positive people.
No it’s not a “prison”. The real answer is MOST corporate/office workers just never left high school and it is literally the extended adult version, borderline meaningless tasks pushing papers/gossip by the water coolers/etc etc.
School is kinda like prison though.
@@polysaturated I like your attitude.
I went from the field as a foreman electrician into the office as a project engineer. I lasted 2 months before begging to go back in the field. I was too far gone after the military and field work for too long. Couldn’t handle it. First time in my life I ever considered forever sleep
Veteran here, worked in the field as a utility worker, then in the office. I couldn’t take it anymore then became a foreman myself and back in the field. I love being outside in the element. Stay strong my brother.
This is sort ofwhat I'm going through right now. I hate the office grind. My life feels pointless.
Hi buddy, im curious: what do you mean by too far gone? What were the thing/s you couldnt handle?
@@MolotovDogThe gossip, rude coworkers, demanding manager nitpicking every tiny thing you do. The long hours and so much more.
Not all office jobs suck. One of my all time favorite jobs was in an office. I miss the people everyday.
I’m 28 and have been looking for work for 6 months with no success. Also because I don’t know what I want to do and I want to avoid office work as much as possible after experiencing it for a while. It is the worst way to spend your life. It kills all the joy in your life
I work in construction. Us proles are free. We pay our tabs with our bodies, not our souls. We say everything at work. We are the last of the free
I'm seriously considering leaving my office job for something outdoors and active like construction. Having to sit still staring at a screen for 8 hours a day is making me go mad.
@@yew6981 join construction, I worked as a civil engineering designer for 3.5 years in an office environment (bored as hell) then got sent to site and realised how much happier everyone is including myself, now moved to site engineering and is definitely the way forward for moral (better pay too)!
@@yew6981I gotta say, garden maintenance or landscaping is at a whole different level
I work in an HVAC warehouse and our customer base is contractors, we all talk pretty bluntly lol.
@@ketchup2147I think it's because you are actually doing something and not pretending to be doing something. Many office jobs is selling the illusion that you are productive.
I'm 75 and so grateful that I never did the office grind. Worked construction jobs here n there n 4 years usaf n then off to Alaska. Logging a cpl seasons, oil rigs, slope work here n there but most of my life was in the bush. Trapping in winter, hand logging the Yukon river, dog mushing, Iditarod, fossil ivory hunting, bit of bootlegging and pot sales but got away frome all that shit 39 years ago in AA. Hell of a nice life I had and still do. My son, Lauro is following that life. Simple log cabin on land he's fully paid for, no debt, appears on Mountain Men Alaska for History Channel, mushing and Iditarod also. He's up on the slope now caribou hunting with the dogs and other mushers. Not much money but a great life. He's a hard worker, 27 and living the life. Can't imagine him in an office. I have a spiritual connection with some kind of higher power that I don't understand but am grateful for. Nature is so cool. Not to be found in an office...at least not for me... Great show Joe
man, awsome story, good luck for your family!
Thanks for sharing your story. Although there have been hard times I’m sure, that is a life of freedom. Well done sir.
Ive been calling going to the office "going to brain jail" since a was a wee 18 year old engineering co-op student. Knew my first 3 months working in one I was going to hate every minute of it. WFH was life changing but the dream is already gone, so some middle manager can justify thier jobs.
I worked on the floor in a factory for 6 months, and then my boss brought me into the office, and the difference is INSANE. No more having to wear tattered shitty clothes, no more being in a hot factory in the summer, no more standing for 10 hours a day, no more eyes watering and coughing for 10 hours (spicy stuff in the air), no more 60 hour work weeks with 1 day off, no more getting yelled at by supervisors who show no respect. I’ve only been in the office for 6 months, but it’s MUCH better and doesn’t break my body down physically and allows me to have a 2 day weekend.
Better doesn't mean good. The problem is standards in society are so low now that people now view horrible working conditions, like in an office, as some kind of decent thing. It would drive most people who ever lived to suicide if they were forced to take part in it, but modern day people have been conditioned to accept it in addition to many other horrible things such as living perpetually in debt, processed food, propaganda on TV, etc.
I mean I’d say there are bigger issues, maybe now that your in a better position you should I dunno advocate for your fellow workers to be treated decently on the factory floor instead of dick sucking your boss
Problem is, the longer you’re in it the more trapped you get. I’m in my mid 30’s, sole provider with wife and kids, and my salary is in the upper 100’s. Hard to leave that security and try to start my own thing at this point. My strategy is to invest in real estate on the side until I’m free.
Good luck bro
Work 5 more years, move to another country, then you don't have to work again because that nest egg will last lifetime in another country.
Thing is, sometimes these jobs pay peanuts so you don't really win anything except something to put on a CV hoping you get a slightly better job.
This is the absolute worst part about it. I'm making pennies on the hour while all the managers make $100k+ per year. I'm working on an IT help desk where I get shit talked to every day by angry Karens because their printers don't work. It sucks because I'm doing all this just so I can add this shitty job to my resume in hopes that I can land a bullshit interview with another shitty company in a higher tier role making a few more bucks an hour. It doesn't feel worth it man.
@@JoshuaParnell-k2y i totally relate. Feels like it's gonna take 20 years of BS and climbing the ladder slowly to get where you want. Personally i decided to work another BS job and that's IT! The world is ending man we can't enslave ourselves for a few extra pennies. 2 years from now I'll work whatever doesn't make me miserable and pays me decently even if it's being a janitor.
That’s why I am a pool man now . Free as a bird . I did the corporate sales job bs for 20 years . No more BS and stress could not be happier
Not everyone can be Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon for a living. So yeah, it sucks.
What makes them any different than you? You're make it seem like they started out rich. Did you not hear them say they had shitty jobs too? but they figured out a way to get where they are now.
@@baldcheddar he/she wasn't bitching about Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon, but was just saying not all of us can do one specific career or job that isn't corporate. If we all did one job world would collapse... And this wasn't no low show to Tim or Joe... Just a saying like hey i wish i did other job but it's not possible for me
@@baldcheddar Imagine there were no Office jobs. The world would collapse… but in the other hand, the salary for Office jobs would get very High! If nobody did them, they would have to increase the salary. And then people would probably do them again…. But listen, Office jobs arent that bad, we just live in a era where we have crazy High expectations to our life. Not everyone can be Joe Rogan or Bill Gates. Not in todays world, Maybe in the future in a Utopia with all kind of fancy Technology.
That's why I'm practicing my craft to make my side hustle eventually become a reality. It will happen, it's just a matter of time
@@Tokyodrift5000 hows the side hustle going
Office jobs are dreadful. You’re stuck in a cubicle all day and people are either nosy or just start drama
I worked general sales on the floor at a big box electronics store for a year and a half, it was my first big corp I worked for because I’ve always worked for small businesses. My gosh, the corporate environment was so fake it blew my mind. I honestly could not believe how clueless most of the people working there are. And it was so cult-like in their approach to everything. Never ever doing that again or working for a bigger corporation again!!! If anyone was/is considering working in a big box retail store and you have and level of self awareness, run away from those places and never set foot in them for work!!!
I work in big pharma. And the one thing I will say... is that once you see how they make it, you'll stop taking medicine
Is it like the axiom "how the sausage is made"?
Tell us more
Please elaborate !
And yet you keep working in it
are you alive man? :D
I was a teacher at school for ten years and last month I moved to the office building with corporate to make curriculum. I am slowly losing my mind. Each day. Using the computer at a shared desk. My back hurts sitting on the chair all day. My only joy is going outside during lunch time. I need to do something.
Good thing the entertainment business doesn’t have any fake superficial corporate BS, lol. 😂
Ikr lol more ass kissing and conformity there than most offices. Probably true in comedy too
I work an office job. While all those points are very true, I'd still choose it over working in the field, under the sun, in a factory or out in the sea, plus I can work from home! You still have to make your dough one way or the other to make it through life, not unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth or won the lottery.
Most of what is said here has nothing to do with office jobs and could be said about most jobs. They’re just complaining about small talk and having to deal with coworkers or the tediousness of work and the fact we all do it even though we don’t like it because we need money and jobs need doing. I’ve worked many different physical labor jobs, drove a truck delivering furniture with two other people in the small cab, warehouse jobs, construction, cashier and multiple office jobs. What they say pretty much fits all of those.
Tech changed the game. WFH, flat org charts so no crazy politics, and no fake relationships with people you never even actually “work” with.
I tried the corporate world, I hold on to it for 3 years and then I was fired due to the covid era. Best thing that ever happened to me, now I'm my own boss, I work alone, I make money and I'm happy at last.
cheers mate
Escaped the rat race a year ago and never looked back
These are extroverted people trying to do introverted people’s work. Am introvert schmoozing and networking all day would be hell. I’ll take my office job over that any day.
Well put. Same here.
I am the extravert Who néeds relax Time between networking. 9 to 5 grinding is Much harder than 7 to 7 12 hours Day
I love my office job, but I guess it’s because I enjoy the work I do.
As a plumber nothing worse than a office manager telling you how to do your job when they have never step out the office delt with a customer or fixed anything in there life they tell us how to do our job then ask us to hang a pisture on the wall
Sitting at my desk for my office job, watching this video. Life is good.
I somehow escaped that world, was miraculously able to get in on a more blue collar type work. Funny thing is I make more now, less stress, and lost weight the moment I started. And despite some physical demands of the work, it's actually more challenging mentally, but in a good way. I'll never go back.
Sure, being an office drone beats some dead end retail/service job. But only because there's a little more money in it.
Having done both moderate physical demanding work, sedentary office work, and physically damaging exercise I can say the most tired I ever felt was doing tedious office work (sorts forms in alphabetical order) to clarify not just more tired but a different kind of tired. When I did even days of intensive physical exercise my body felt tired but I felt mentally alert and positive same with the moderate physical work but on the other hand after doing 8 hours of mind numbing work i felt like my brain had been beaten with a sledgehammer. I couldn’t think clearly I felt stressed and irritable it was awful
The purpose of life is to live on your terms via your own gifts.
Make your own opportunities.
Im sure they both said hey, how are you at the start of this pod cast.
Joe realizing his whole job is to have extended office conversations lol..
with various interesting people on the planet and commentating UFC fights. I'll take that over any job in the world.
IF the culture sucks yes. Thankfully I used to work for an organization that had an amazing culture. Grateful for that
From someone trapped in this situation currently this is brutally accurate
I’ve learned we should all be doing what we wanted to do at 14 yrs old.
❤
Thats why i landscape. Don't care if it isn't respected. I get the sun,freedom, and podcasts. Day goes quick. I could never work in an office
Landscaping is a great job.. you will whistle yourself to sleep every night and pick up hot women constantly because you are fit as anyone
@@ht8286 the day to days great fer real
As a person struggling in this EXACT environment jesus man like when i was it keeps me up at night i mean on my day off (night before i have to go back to work ya know like sunday) i find myself staying awake all night so i can be awake and concious somewhere that isnt work or like i’ve been recently even having nightmares about my job dude like im trying everything to get out of the matrix shit is absolute torture but what i really cant stand is the praises i get for having this job or how normal try to make it seem like man this is the “american dream” people boast on about….shits a sick joke
It's quite literally slavery. If anyone wanted to know what slavery must've felt like (at least mentally-speaking), this is pretty much what it is. I can't enjoy anything during my work time. Not music, not movies, not even fresh air. You can't really be your authentic self for a very long period of time, and that's insane.
@@ramsesjfg7668 whats even scarier is i have watched this show it newer before i got the job called severance and my job is exactly like that show not in a good way
@@ryanthomas8155You gotta find something worth living for outside of work man. If all you care about is work to the point you’re thinking about it on your day off, then either your job is really toxic or you need something to spend your money on that drives you to want to work. I really encourage you to read the Bible, the word of God has helped billions of people find purpose and joy in life, no matter the background or creed you come from. It’s truly like no other.
I can't stay at the same job more than a year or so. I always end up hating the customers. Working with people I don't really like is bad enough, but working for and providing services to people I dispise makes me glad the population is declining.
I'm a Construction Worker
And for the life of me, I have always wanted to know What's the Deal with Office People?
What do they do all day? Really.?
It’s a prison. Even if you don’t have debt or family…you still gotta do it for housing and food.
Reading the comments, it seems I'm lucky. Work hybrid, which means only two days in the office and the rest from home. Plus I enjoy the work and am paid very well. Overtime is seldomly an issue.
Yup- it's a soul suck. And the majority of us are stuck in it till death. Thanks for the reminder.
Most corporates never got the memo. I thought slavery was banned in 1850. Wait is this the 2020s or the 18 th century?
Karl Marx knew
The fuck you compare scrolling on social media with slavery. No matter how brain dead your job is, Slavery is whole different universe
i worked 3.5 years working for a plumbing supply house, and theyre totally, its like adult day care.
This is why WFH is the answer
I’ve never had an office job. Retail life and rideshare life
They aren't wrong, but you gotta work and it's hell of a lot better than the shitty factory jobs I've had or the low paying cooking jobs I've had. We can't all be Podcasters and comedians
This is the perspective of two guys who that wasn’t good for. A lot of people benefit greatly from the relationships they make at work and the structure and reward of work. It’s not as bad as they make it seem. Sometimes you just need to get your mind right. One role doesn’t have to be forever.
I rather pretend to be busy then be tired do death as a delivery driver.
Good watch while im working my shitty office job lol
I really like my oil field job since I can make 100k and only work half the year
Out of curiosity, what position do you work that only requires working half the year?
@@moereda773being a roughneck (dirty work operating the drill) usually requires you to be on site for two weeks then off for two weeks
I work in software development 8 hours of thinking non stop solving problems my brain doesn't have any break even after work my brain always finding a way to solve it even I refuse to think about it, it's like my brain have a life of it's own like auto pilot fawk
100% correct about looking busy. There simply isn’t 8 hours of work to do in an office.
Bro I did 12-14 hour days in an office for years
Yes there is. I process insurance claims. There are literally thousands and thousands.. tens of thousands. We never have a shortage of work. There is always something to do. During covid, our claim volume went down alot due to nobody leaving their house, but it didnt last long.
I am a data analyst. The work never stops.
It sure does beat manual labor or sales/retail jobs…
Not hardly. To each their own. I do a mix of manual labor and driving for my niche job. Vut warehouse work?! Cant do it. Sales is preferred but im not giving up a good long term job
Not necessarily depends on the thing in question
Customer service at edge pest control- worst job I ever had
Office jobs with a great culture are awesome. When it's soulless yeah it can really suck.
Imagine this, but with physical labor and at a department store. The worst of both worlds.
36 and I’m in the same boat joe. Still gonna keep fighting until I find my way outta the matrix as well.
As an electrician I love the freedom my career provides me
the concept of "escaping the matrix" is such a braindead analogy for real life that it's not even a concept worth acknowledging. But, unless you're actually living off the grid and no one (and I mean no one) knows who you are, i'd say you're still firmly in the "matrix"
I left sales due to fake ppl everyone pretending they happy but everyone miserable beneath the surface while randomly letting you know now I'm learning to work for myself while challenging is freeing
BS Jobs by the late David Graeber. Check it out.
most of Joe's employed audience work in offices
Life is a giant trap, even for Rogan.
It's usually the people that suck not the job.
Well I think many jobs have that expectation of social conformity and small talk and pleasantries and it's fine if you are a genuine optimistic person or enjoy meaningless conversations etc. depends what sort of office too data entry would be like factory work just repetitive a desk job suits some peoples physical needs though not everyone can be on their feet all day or do lots of heavy lifting but someone at a conveyor belt can get carpel tunnel syndrome or whatever. If you work in customer service and sales like I did in heels usually for eight hours a day you may have vascular problems starting by 30 though I enjoyed my job otherwise I liked talking to them and helping them usually before I became so cynical of people generally. I don't like fake type salespeople either I have very high standards because I did the job myself for so long.
I'm a third-generation Union ironworker. My little sister works in that I'm kind of environment. She's freaking miserable. I on the other hand get to work outside and cuss and spit and joke around and work hard and play hard. And it's a good living.
For three years of my Army career, I had a job in a cubicle farm working alongside civilians. It was the easier job I ever had. I HATED it! I can’t be in that environment. I asked them to send me to Fort Hood and went right to Afghanistan. Cool!
You think that’s bad try a submarine. Imagine LIVING with your coworkers for 3 months at a time. 😂😱🙄
These guys have never been in an office
Sure
My worst mistake in my first career was leaving the classroom to be a curriculum leader/instructional coach. Total bullshit job. Schools should have teachers, a principal, and an AP if it's a big school. Teachers should run their own classrooms. Instructional coaching is 100% bullshit.
Now, I work in data centers as a field service engineer. It's real work. I deal with many project managers who are as useless as instructional coaches. Glad I don't have a bullshit job anymore. A good PM is gold, but they are in the small minority.
Yep, it does feel like prison after a while and I did it for a long time! It’s a miserable existence and they don’t even have Lipton Cup O’ Soup in most offices like they did in the 70s??
Joe's lucky his escape was something creative that had a road to success. I'm a juggler and the greatest professional juggler in the world Anthony Gatto literally quit juggling to open a concrete business because he was tired of making no money. He even starred in a Cirque du Soleil show and still was only making maybe $50k/year
Because juggling is not a job.
@michaeldalton8374 And neither is being funny
Yes! Follow your heart and embrace chaos !!!
Compared to what my ancestors were doing 200 years ago, an office job has major upsides.
Its Its funny i have an office job however its not really a true office job. I do IT for Law enforcement. So sometimes im in my office normally im working on different systems and hardware so im never just in my office. However besides that the stuff i do isnt the same as a normal office person my work i do isnt for some corporation. It helps the law enforcement and the fire department do there job and it feels great to know that i am the one who helps them do there jobs. Obviously im not the one going out doing the job. However it would he very difficult almost impossible now days to do the job without all the technology that both PD and Fire uses.
I'm not even religious, but thank GOD for remote work. It makes the work day infinitely more tolerable. I used to be absolutely miserable working in an office, waking up absurdly early, wearing work appropriate clothes, the hellish commute there and back, then being forced to be stuck in this one place for EIGHT hours straight, even if you only have a few hours worth of work to do. That's not even getting into other factors like interacting with coworkers you're not friends with/potentially dislike all day, having to shit in a public bathroom.
I will never go back to the office.
My job got a new woke HR director last year. Of course, we had to learn about pronouns and all the gender BS. Best one yet was last week. Got a mass email to all employees that 1 employee in the building has a cinnamon allergy so, of course, now not a single person in the entire building can ever bring in cinnamon rolls ever again. Thanks Karen.
I do this and I literally save as much money as I can do I can just retire.