Proudwhiteamerican I hear you it’s not by any means a part of my life I’m proud of but I fu in my life too it’s not all the drugs or even you’re fault vro
@Proudwhiteamerican But where did that "weak" mind come from? If your weak mind needed 26 years for an basically non addictive substance, you should be able to empathise a little more with an opiode addiction.
You got me, I'm actually a weed addicted Jackass. I got addicted because of the same issues, low self worth and inability to preform in school. Weed addiction can be hard to quit for good, I got no problem with a week at all. I respect you managed to do it. But a "weak" mind is not the same as a traumatised mind like most opioid addicts. A somewhat functional young person doesn't get addicted to heroïne out or weaknesses, and without help will never call it at all. I'm sorry I was rude as your intention was for the good, but the last thing an addict needs to hear, is that he's weak, a hug would help more.
Took my shot in 07. Took my life savings and invested in real estate. Worst housing market crash in history insued in the next 5 years. Lost everything and entered bankruptcy with wife and 4 kids under 12. Got back to work as a laborer and now 10 years later Im not a rich man but I still have my wife and kids and consider myself lucky. Hang in there guys.
I bet when u entered bankruptcy ur wife began withholding stuff from u. U know bedroom stuff 🤣 and then u became tom sexless🤣🤣🤣 Congratulations on building ur self back up man, many fail to do that
Wtf lol . This quote has to be taken in the context that it was written . You can’t just make shit up . Thoreau was referring to mans disconnection with nature and that our primal instincts wrestle with our new reality.
I'm 44 years old and sadly I'm a quiet desperation guy. It all happened because of stupid decisions I made early in my life that I can't begin to tell you how much I regret. I just recently started my own business but if this doesn't work out, well, I'm pretty much finished. Please pray for me guys:):):)
Youre lucky most of us in our 20s will never have the finances to stsrt a business with these shit wages and expensive rent prices so feel blessed buddy
This also needs to be said: As you lift yourself up, you're gonna meet a lot of resistance from people around you who are themselves stuck in quiet desperation and don't want to see you do what they can't do. This is something that always happens on the hero's journey and you gotta learn to persevere and bet on yourself even when everyone else bets against you.
My brother all facts and say it again ! I have been dealing with this for long time and I will never give up on myself this journey / hero’s journey requires lots mental preparation
Jordan Peterson again. But his IQ gives him advantage. Artistic talents give others escape. But the 9 t 5 office worker the bricklayer the factory worker dont have these advantages so dont best down on them.
@Guybrush Threepwood I live in a nice middle class leafy suburb. Grew up in a broken home penniless on a council estate (like US projects) . First world poor. But non of this is relevant to my point.
Guybrush Threepwood I had food but grew up in a trailer park with a meth head father. And a mother who drained all my savings bc she couldn't drink and pay rent at the same time. Could it have been worse? 100% it could have. But that doesn't discount the other problems people have to overcome.
This is spot on. Currently saving the $$ and have a plan. I have about 18 months to go before I make the switch. It's absolutely scary as fuck, but I can't live in this depression anymore. I only got one crack at this life.
Smash it mate. Make sure you reach out and seek advice from people you respect so you don't make the same mistakes others have. Get information from as many sources as you can, take all the good bits and formulate your own plan.
I think it also needs to be said that I knew i didn’t want to be stuck doing what I am now...But I also had no idea what I wanted to move to and didn’t want to make the wrong choice for fear of the same thing happening again
Good on you man. I hope you succeed at whatever it is you want. The path is painful, and you may get lost for awhile, so don't fret. But instead try to find your way again. I'm 27 too. That's what we have to do. Many years have passed and we've lost them. So what, we either try now (Or again), and make something happen. ANYTHING. We have to. This is hell. It's even worse hell knowing that you're on your own. If you have 1 or 2 truly close friends, or a true relationship, then your struggle may be a little easier, but that may not last, so you must still prepare yourself to take on your own journey. It's lonely. It's dark. It's painful. It's filled with hurt. If you don't have those nice things (I've had friends that were close, now are distant. I've had good friends and mediocre friends. I have had no intimate relationship - THIS is hard to deal with), then you must aim to both be progressing along your own path whilst in that darkness alone, and locating the companionship you need that is outside of yourself. Part of your journey involves learning to be your own companion. That isn't to downplay the almost-necessity of an external companion in life (Again, close friend or ideally a genuine relationship). I don't follow the belief that you have to love yourself first; However the path to, especially as a man, being proud of yourself - through strength during dark and difficult times - is where you find the love of others. The true companionship. That in turn does lead you to loving yourself more - That is, being proud of who you are as a human being, flaws - And perhaps the struggles to overcome those flaws (Even through failure, infact especially through failure), and all. I can't provide comfort, because whilst we want it - Like I'm seeking it now - , it is presently unhelpful for us. Would you agree?
xkeeni That's probably why it was so annoying to me. I just couldn't describe it, thank you. Reminds me of an old teacher I had... I get shivers thinking about her.
Consider the things that you desire. Find joy in simple things, people, love, pets. Walk in nature. Read and listen to inspirational videos. Find a narrow path out of negativity. Confront the roadblock in your own mind.
This interview. This is what drives me every day. I’ve been planning my escape for 15 years. I’m not happy I got divorced but turns out it was unknowingly the key part to finishing my plan. I was everything Joe says here. Stuck, miserable, no life and suffering quietly. I took control of my life. There is more to life than just existing and working your ass off while others take you for granted. That was my case. I won’t ever give up fighting for what I want, ever.
@@onefastr6 I do everything to escape am not completely out but have avoided some many things by then I don’t even know what I was doing.. I have a plan to become pilot with QR which make me to struggle so hard and save money no kids no wife ! I may not be pilot but I have much money in my AC
Excited to move out of my small town. Got nothing but love for it, but Joe hit the nail on the head with this. If anyone else is in similar shoes, I wish you nothing but the best on your future adventure.
I listened to him. I took the shots. I up and went. I even took the biggest shot of coming back to try and change the place i left. And now I'm kicking around on a piece of ground in my hometown. Again. Doing it all again is really hard. But don't expect to get it right the first time. Ever. Hope to. Good luck.
I’ve been up and I’ve been down and as an old F at 61, I can tell you that the best thing is constantly being able to morph into something or someone new every x number of years. Keeps me motivated and alive
I'm there. Spent my late 30's and all my 40's taking care of my parents and in that time climbed aboard the desperation train, developing habits that have left me a crusty shell of the adventurous person I was. This week I'm going to be offered my yearly contract and this week I'm going to slide it back across the table smiling, "Thank you for the opportunity you provided me and my family." Then I'm gonna get the hell out of Dodge while there's still something left of ME.
@patrick I feel you. I spent my 20s looking after a sick parent and was feeling sorry for myself at 30. Good luck to you my friend. You've given me perspective as well
Know what you mean broheim, In the last year and a half, three excellent people who helped me from a young tot to a grown man have left this Earth, and it's tough. I came back home to spend time with them, but also in the last few years back home, I feel I've lost a bit of that person who wanted to do more, and instead I've been just even working hard to just earn paychecks to make ends meet. The thing though, guys like us, as long as that song and idea is still inside of us, we'll eventually get there, because we'll keep pushing until it happens
I have never respected Joe Rogan more than I have before this clip. This is a facet of achievement for which a great many humans never strive, and he succinctly and accurately identifies the methodology.
I remember watching this 4 years ago. As a 20 year old. I’m a dad now, and I’m trying to escape. I’m building my business from the ground up and now I can relate to this.
I still have no idea what to do with myself and I'm 30. Ever since middle school when we did career searches I never knew what to pick. Quiet desperation is right.
Some of us have to make an honest living. It may not be glamorous, but if others want to live these charmed lives, we have to create and maintain that infrastructure.
@Randy Porter You two knuckleheads did not understand. He meant that not all of us can be fking CEO's...some people have to be AP clerks in order for the CEO's to have people to order around...
For example, my father does not know who dafuq Roe Jogan is...he couldn't give a fk less....so Roe Jogan needs people like you and me in order for him to rack up the dough, just for speaking...
This is the single most motivating thing I have heard in my life. Thank you Joe and guest. I am going to get at my life like it depends on it. God help me.
Your life depends on it !! Good luck! & get off your phone & social media while escaping. All the people you look up too didn’t spend a minute a day listening too or watching their idols. They mirrored their habits.
Been going through this for years now smh I hope who’s going through any hard time emotionally one day gets better, and live a life you dreamed of or an just happy life. ✌️💙 to everyone.
What I like about Joe is that he speaks from a place of TRUTH. Most people live lives of quiet desperation. I have been that guy as well in MANY areas of my life (dating was the MOST painful). It is a VERY tragic reality that most people do not live in a place of empowerment day to day. It's never too late to change but he is ABSOLUTELY right when he says that the older you get the more you get LOCKED into situations (mortgage family responsibilities etc) that limit your options. The best way out is to learn how to live a lifestyle of MINIMALISM so your possessions don't OWN your decisions (sell your car just to see that you don't need it), stay the FUCK out of personal debt, and do not EVER perpetuate relationships that have gone BAD due to previous commitments. Good Luck everyone!!!!
Finally a message that has set me free! I hope whomever watches this video could also say the same! Stay strong brothers! We are all going to make it! 💪🏽
I've done this 2 years ago and its almost a year now I'm doing what I love doing ! I really went for it . Now I'm slowly climbing the ladder as a full-time archer. BOW HUNTING full time in new Zealand 🇳🇿. I don't have much but I love my life !
I'm 29 and try to limit all my commitments. I'm single. Cheap rent. No car. No mortgage. No student loans. Some money saved up. Alright 9-5 job. I'm not wealthy by any means but i do feel richer than some of my "settled down" friends just because i have less responsibilities.
I went for it and failed . Now I’m older and wonder if it’s to late for and I already missed my window. I’ve not given up but there is always that voice in the back of my mind saying it’s not gonna happen .
@@damjanjagodic2943 playing games is never risky, except if you think that life is a game then you are bound to fail. If you don't change than your addictions will consume you...
I couldn’t have said it any better. Mom and dad said,”Save your money!!!” “Stay in school and save your money,work the first year,living with your parents,pay off your debt,throw them something for putting up with your crap,and split…live and love life because it’s very short. I was 24 once. I’m 50 now and live in quiet desperation.
Bookmarked this in a journal after listening to it five or more times the first time I heard it. Wrote down the time and episode in that journal. I went back to listen to it on several different podcast players. (This episode was before his move to Spotify.) Not there, not even on Spotify. SOO glad I found this here. Transcribed, and have several different ways to access this now. Thanks YT!
One of the single most motivating 3:42 videos on UA-cam. Should be a requirement for all people under 20 (or older) to watch every day. This hits home for a lot of people.
This clip inspired me to quit my dead end job. I've spent the last two weeks printing out resumes and applying for jobs everywhere. This was the push I need to start anew
Are you ok pal? 8 years ago I was like this & one day when my soon to be wife was at work I just packed my clothes, threw my phone away & moved to another country & started a new life, , I feel bad for walking out on everyone but I was feeling suicidal at the time & I didn't have any kids.
You will not last for the long haul working those kind of hours. I would encourage you only work 5 days per week and then get extra sleep the 2 days per week that you have off.
@@craigroberts1329 I have no life outside of work, so it doesn't hurt me too much. Haha I've been running on 4 hours of sleep for years. I still find time to work out too. Use it before you use it I suppose.
Joe describes this perfectly! When a man/women gets to this place in their life you can either suffer for decades or fight like you life depends on it to break out of it because it does! Anyone who feels like you soul is dying or dead - go fight for what you want even if it’s 1 hour a day to get their and while your fighting you WILL feel more alive than you have in years!
This is the most insightful talk ever. No jargon just straight truth. I know how that feels; I have been there; still there. For every men; the road is rough till there’s a sunshine; that’s if there’s ever any!
Complacency kills the chance to thrive and staying comfortable will get you no further than where you are currently. Push through the worst part of your life so that you can blossom in your future. Know that you're strong and use that to push yourself. That's how I communicate to myself and I hope someone finds it helpful.
I've heard and known of stories of people who one day, in their 30s, 40s or even 50s, completely change their lives, its never too late. Its difficult, and time will never come back, but if there's a will there's a way
"you gotta be caffieinated and motivated... and you gotta go! and you need discipline.. most people dont have that" - every young person needs to hear this.
This video changed my life I was 22 working at a deadend warehouse job living life check to check not seeking change, i set a plan saved my money and chased my dreams to be truck driver, it took lots of work sacrifices and effort but I fought like if my life depended on it I’m 24 and officially a truck driver for a oil field company I think the biggest satisfaction out of my path was the risk and commitment I did 2:29
26 still living at parents house and going through opioid withdrawls with barely no money to do anything i can say is the worst desperation you can ever get in. i wake up out of bed every morning feeling broke and like im 85 years old and i dont see how i can have intuitive or motivation to do anything because of how i feel. i want to stay sober but its such a trapped feeling man
I'm young and don't have any serious responsibilities but still feel this way. What I worry about at least is what I should be doing with my life and not having the resources necessary to fulfill my desires/falling behind/being seen as a loser etc. It can definitely see how it can get worse with age though given the way our society is run and familial obligations. You have less escape routes the more responsibly you have.
Great episode, and these off-topic remarks were actually my favorite part. As with a lot of things, Joe’s been there and done that, but what sets him apart is the level to which he’s thought it through and understands success/failure. Caffeinated & motivated!
Joe is absolutely f*cking right. As 30 years old man, I spent 9 years in a career that I don’t like, which I followed based on parents and older people advice. However with a year and a half hard work enough saved money I was able to escape that hell and find the job I like
I overcame the fear of that quite desperation enough to change the world 7 times that I know of and eventually got named the superhero "The Blue Rose" by a local radio station in Seattle. I was trained to lose that fear by Syfy author Frank Herbert in 1976 and a specialized thinktank group that spent a lot of time searching the world for people like me. (The Centrum Foundation). I use that desperation like a tool to create ideas, then pass those ideas to the people that can make them happen. It's easier than you'd think to change the world, at least for me. I also believe that self imposed responsibilities and the fear it brings are what limit most people. The number of keys you have on a ring can often reflect your responsibilities and subsequent fear. I'm a professional busker. I have 3 keys in my pocket, and I can change the world. On a side note: Love the shows Joe.
im 41 and i spent the past 20 years saving up for a house to move out of a bad area. i first bought a small house for cheap, recently flipped it and made 50k off it and with the other amount of money i had saved i finally moved out of a bad area to a country area that is extremely safe. people dont lock their doors. i bought a 3k square ft house. but now im 41. you know what womena re out there for 41 year olds? they are the ones who fucked up their lives in their 20s and now the hard working men who spent the past 20 years building a stable life only have these unstable women to pick from. 4 kids, no jobs, no cars, all content creators which means they sell patreon, live with their parents still. because i chose the right path in life to become stable before stupidity of being stuck in the ghetto forever and worked my way out of it, i have no one to share it with. and im going to die alone. and thats not a boo hoo moment, its a moment thousands of men are living right now.
I was just watching one of his videos for the first time on my brothers phone and all of a sudden I get the video in my home feed ON MY PHONE. THEY’RE LISTENING TO US!!!
Joe is spot on, no sugar coating. This is something that's not talked about often cause, as men, we feel that we shouldn't vent and therefore suffer in silence.
I'm 35 just started a odd business thats begining to succeed now after a year grind after working a decade in restaurant management hell. The path out took me tossing my whole life in the air and rearranging the pieces afterwards. He's absolutely right, work the dream like you're life depends on it. It kind of does.
44, wife, 2 kids under 12, mortgage, cars, kinda stuck in my job. Yes, this is the situation many of us are in. I have this constant feeling of things could be so much worse, but life is drudgery on a day to day basis. Carrying the light is hard, but that's all that keeps me going. That and trying to give the kids a chance!
Totally agree! At the end of the day, it comes down to priorities, how important they are to you, and what you're able to give up and what you're not. I'm not one to live a "traditional" life (with a house, spouse, kids, and a 9-5). I don't know if I'll ever want those, although I understand why many people do. I don't think that's for me because of some of the downsides mentioned in the conversation. Having a non-traditional lifestyle also has downfalls. However, I am happy with the decisions I've made and the life I have.
Traditional life style is not for me no kids no wife am happy I feel like I can win the battle of life GOD WILLING !! Yes will want be around kids when I have lots of windows to escape from and to where I want
Been there, really feeling like you need to change from deep down inside. The good news I have and I now have a kick ass company!!!!!!! With the perfect family!!!!! Joe you are a great person.
Wal mart job, potbelly, mortgage, unhappy marriage, horrible sons, maxed out credit cards. Had a profession before covid. Used to be a competitive bjj practitioner. ( Purple belt), even coached a little. Now the 9 in nightstand seems more appropriate.
Absolute truth!!!! when you get stuck for years is bad, cause you lose motivation to do anything and keep wasting time and repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Breaking that loop in your 40s is very hard.
Back to school full time, while working my dead end job full time at 40. This shit is hard, but not as hard as it would be to live everyday with no hope of change. ✌️
I'm only 23 and am already in a huge rut. I'm American but living in Europe. I love living her temporarily but my job is sucking my soul out of me. I want to pursue music, but part of me is holding me back out of fear of not making it. Every year I go through this. I can't scratch the itch or shake the feeling that it's what I need to do in life. Though it's such an uncertain field. Idk.. I feel that's my whole generation. "idk"... "what if"... "I _could_"... "I _should_".... "I would".. It's like a spell that we're cast under... And I personally attribute it to technology's distractions, though I won't shift the blame. Of course I'm responsible.
I think about this a lot. I'm almost 23 and I work at a warehouse. A friend from high school is now a senior at University and recently got an offer to intership at NASA. Meanwhile I have wasted 5 years of my life doing low level jobs. I was always the smart one at school and it burns me inside knowing that my friend gets to hang out at NASA meanwhile I chill at a warehouse with a bunch of people i dont want to talk to.
I think this is a huge reason for the opioid epidemic and for drug use in general. When you can’t escape your life, you just escape reality instead.
Hawya Doin 100% true..coz I am one of them
Bam The Secularist choose your cell even accomplishing you author dream will leave you wanting and imprisoned
Proudwhiteamerican I hear you it’s not by any means a part of my life I’m proud of but I fu in my life too it’s not all the drugs or even you’re fault vro
@Proudwhiteamerican But where did that "weak" mind come from? If your weak mind needed 26 years for an basically non addictive substance, you should be able to empathise a little more with an opiode addiction.
You got me, I'm actually a weed addicted Jackass. I got addicted because of the same issues, low self worth and inability to preform in school. Weed addiction can be hard to quit for good, I got no problem with a week at all. I respect you managed to do it. But a "weak" mind is not the same as a traumatised mind like most opioid addicts. A somewhat functional young person doesn't get addicted to heroïne out or weaknesses, and without help will never call it at all. I'm sorry I was rude as your intention was for the good, but the last thing an addict needs to hear, is that he's weak, a hug would help more.
“Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way....”
The time is gone, the song is over
Thought I'd have something more to say...
@Joseph Gemin First album I listened to on ACID.
@@lelemsays Home, home again...
I was waiting for someone to post that.
@@HigherPlanes Same here brother.
The only thing worse than quiet desperation is seeing a small glimmer of hope and having it destroyed in front of you time and time again.
felt that :/
That's why this is hell, if there is one
Sounds like Guts.
100%, but you have to keep moving forward (even if it feels like backwards). Push through despite the hope-destructive trauma.
that is life, you need to brush it off and continue.
Took my shot in 07. Took my life savings and invested in real estate. Worst housing market crash in history insued in the next 5 years. Lost everything and entered bankruptcy with wife and 4 kids under 12. Got back to work as a laborer and now 10 years later Im not a rich man but I still have my wife and kids and consider myself lucky. Hang in there guys.
the gaps in between is where life HAPPENS for us ! Happiness is found In those memories made in the peaks and valleys of life . .
Hope you are doing well
You dont sound like smart guy tbh especially with 4 kids lol
respect but shocking how well you got married. her commitment wasnt an act seemingly
I bet when u entered bankruptcy ur wife began withholding stuff from u. U know bedroom stuff 🤣 and then u became tom sexless🤣🤣🤣
Congratulations on building ur self back up man, many fail to do that
One of the most important things Joe has ever said on this damn podcast.
I've listened to this man since 2013, you are dead on.
True realest shit he's said
Wtf lol . This quote has to be taken in the context that it was written . You can’t just make shit up . Thoreau was referring to mans disconnection with nature and that our primal instincts wrestle with our new reality.
@@roughhabit9085 Right but they were also talking in the context of the pink Floyd quote which was to do with doing something you hate every day.
@@roughhabit9085
Maybe so.
But we all like Joe’s interpretation better….. more profound and relevant to our lives.
I'm 44 years old and sadly I'm a quiet desperation guy. It all happened because of stupid decisions I made early in my life that I can't begin to tell you how much I regret. I just recently started my own business but if this doesn't work out, well, I'm pretty much finished. Please pray for me guys:):):)
Youre lucky most of us in our 20s will never have the finances to stsrt a business with these shit wages and expensive rent prices so feel blessed buddy
did you make it?!
be willing to do something completely new
Hang in there.
How’s the business?
This also needs to be said: As you lift yourself up, you're gonna meet a lot of resistance from people around you who are themselves stuck in quiet desperation and don't want to see you do what they can't do. This is something that always happens on the hero's journey and you gotta learn to persevere and bet on yourself even when everyone else bets against you.
My brother all facts and say it again ! I have been dealing with this for long time and I will never give up on myself this journey / hero’s journey requires lots mental preparation
Jordan Peterson again. But his IQ gives him advantage. Artistic talents give others escape. But the 9 t 5 office worker the bricklayer the factory worker dont have these advantages so dont best down on them.
@@Csio12what are you trying to say?
wow referencing the heroes journey
I agree. But in my personal experience. The greatest enemy can come from within oneself. As well as one's greatest ally.
"It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything" - T. Durden
First Class Citizen Hellyeah
Absolutely
Long View Hellyeah it’s from the movie “Fight Club” (1999). One of my favorites 💯
KAYZER SOZE
Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose" - Kris Kristofferson
My quiet desperation is slowly cracking away, he is 100 % correct
Sorry to hear.
michael palmisano, so if your qd is slowly cracking away, your becoming free? Power to you!!!
Sorry to hear that too.
Not 100%... He might still have some way to go himself.
@Tristan O'Rogan why the fuck do you write something about it then?
Damn she's genuinely new to the idea of spending your life working even though that's 90% of the population
Because she's never experienced true hardship & poverty
@Guybrush Threepwood I live in a nice middle class leafy suburb. Grew up in a broken home penniless on a council estate (like US projects) . First world poor. But non of this is relevant to my point.
@Guybrush Threepwood *1% of gays lol*
Guybrush Threepwood Just because most Americans have bellies full of garbage food, doesn't mean that other problems can't be present.
Guybrush Threepwood I had food but grew up in a trailer park with a meth head father. And a mother who drained all my savings bc she couldn't drink and pay rent at the same time. Could it have been worse? 100% it could have. But that doesn't discount the other problems people have to overcome.
This is spot on. Currently saving the $$ and have a plan. I have about 18 months to go before I make the switch. It's absolutely scary as fuck, but I can't live in this depression anymore. I only got one crack at this life.
Smash it mate. Make sure you reach out and seek advice from people you respect so you don't make the same mistakes others have. Get information from as many sources as you can, take all the good bits and formulate your own plan.
I wish you the best. Go get it.
Awesome. Doo itt!!
From my current soul-sucking job that I got stuck doing, to something that I hope will be more fulfilling in my life
I think it also needs to be said that I knew i didn’t want to be stuck doing what I am now...But I also had no idea what I wanted to move to and didn’t want to make the wrong choice for fear of the same thing happening again
27 and losing my fucking mind on a daily basis. I’d rather try and fail, than live with regret. Im going for it.
Go for it bro. You got this.
Good on you man. I hope you succeed at whatever it is you want. The path is painful, and you may get lost for awhile, so don't fret. But instead try to find your way again.
I'm 27 too. That's what we have to do. Many years have passed and we've lost them. So what, we either try now (Or again), and make something happen. ANYTHING. We have to. This is hell. It's even worse hell knowing that you're on your own. If you have 1 or 2 truly close friends, or a true relationship, then your struggle may be a little easier, but that may not last, so you must still prepare yourself to take on your own journey. It's lonely. It's dark. It's painful. It's filled with hurt. If you don't have those nice things (I've had friends that were close, now are distant. I've had good friends and mediocre friends. I have had no intimate relationship - THIS is hard to deal with), then you must aim to both be progressing along your own path whilst in that darkness alone, and locating the companionship you need that is outside of yourself.
Part of your journey involves learning to be your own companion. That isn't to downplay the almost-necessity of an external companion in life (Again, close friend or ideally a genuine relationship).
I don't follow the belief that you have to love yourself first; However the path to, especially as a man, being proud of yourself - through strength during dark and difficult times - is where you find the love of others. The true companionship. That in turn does lead you to loving yourself more - That is, being proud of who you are as a human being, flaws - And perhaps the struggles to overcome those flaws (Even through failure, infact especially through failure), and all.
I can't provide comfort, because whilst we want it - Like I'm seeking it now - , it is presently unhelpful for us.
Would you agree?
She interviewed joe rogan
YUP
She's gonna write a book called:
MMA, DMT, Chimps and Elk: The 21st Century Man
Joe just never shuts the fuck up.
Smart woman...inquisitive...
why does she whisper when she speaks lol
Theres something sexy about it
To sound non-threatening
not sexy to me, kind of repulsive, to each their own
Вяеиdаи Sнеа Сфииеllу I love it
@@rml4289 haha enjoy
“You have to get after it like you’re saving the world” thank you for this, gold
Bills? Like, financial bills? Ladies out of touch.
Yeeeeah.. big time.
Thanks, I went back to hear if she really said that with a straight face, she did
yeah this bitch has never had a single struggle in her life. Always funny watching rich white people discuss reality for the rest of the population
maybe she doesnt value money?
energeez that’s not the point.
there is a "quiet desperation" about her voice.
Colin Weiss kinda annoying, that quiet whisper.... just me?
Nah she needs to talk like a real person. Its an act to make her seem more authoritative
xkeeni That's probably why it was so annoying to me. I just couldn't describe it, thank you. Reminds me of an old teacher I had... I get shivers thinking about her.
Seriously. The breathing into the mic is unsettling. I can practically hear the cortisol.
She sounds like a npr person
She needs to take a chance and change her job from a science fiction writer to an ASMR God
She could just read her book, and every few paragraphs she taps the cover or flips the page up to the mic. Easy money.
See, I was a bit concerned for her, because of her breathy, unsupported way of talking
@@MrTurtleThief You mean whisper her book aloud? I would listen to that tbh
@@Herfinnur Is that bad for your voice?
Lol...so true
Three jobs, no time, no prospects for improvement. Because I have responsibilities I can't give up. I barely exist.
This is just bad
I'm legitimately sorry for that, hopefully something changes for you
YEA WELCOME TO HELL. THIS PLANET IS RUN BY THE DEVIL
Peak Capitalism
Consider the things that you desire. Find joy in simple things, people, love, pets. Walk in nature. Read and listen to inspirational videos. Find a narrow path out of negativity. Confront the roadblock in your own mind.
This interview. This is what drives me every day. I’ve been planning my escape for 15 years. I’m not happy I got divorced but turns out it was unknowingly the key part to finishing my plan. I was everything Joe says here. Stuck, miserable, no life and suffering quietly. I took control of my life. There is more to life than just existing and working your ass off while others take you for granted. That was my case. I won’t ever give up fighting for what I want, ever.
Wich episode is this, may I ask?
I’m stuck too homie. Tons of responsibilities and expectations and zero happiness. Pray for me.
@@onefastr6 I do everything to escape am not completely out but have avoided some many things by then I don’t even know what I was doing.. I have a plan to become pilot with QR which make me to struggle so hard and save money no kids no wife ! I may not be pilot but I have much money in my AC
@@edgarceja8333JRE #1299 - Annie Jacobsen
@@onefastr6you got this man keep going!
Excited to move out of my small town. Got nothing but love for it, but Joe hit the nail on the head with this. If anyone else is in similar shoes, I wish you nothing but the best on your future adventure.
Same brother good luck
Get after it mate, the world is what you make it.
After being born and raised in so cal I want a quiet farm life in a small town . . .
do whatever it takes to never ask "what if?"
I listened to him. I took the shots. I up and went. I even took the biggest shot of coming back to try and change the place i left.
And now I'm kicking around on a piece of ground in my hometown. Again. Doing it all again is really hard. But don't expect to get it right the first time. Ever. Hope to.
Good luck.
I’ve been up and I’ve been down and as an old F at 61, I can tell you that the best thing is constantly being able to morph into something or someone new every x number of years. Keeps me motivated and alive
I like this mindset! Thanks
I love hearing wisdom from people with life experience. So motivating!
I'm there. Spent my late 30's and all my 40's taking care of my parents and in that time climbed aboard the desperation train, developing habits that have left me a crusty shell of the adventurous person I was. This week I'm going to be offered my yearly contract and this week I'm going to slide it back across the table smiling, "Thank you for the opportunity you provided me and my family." Then I'm gonna get the hell out of Dodge while there's still something left of ME.
good on ya, Pat!
Best of luck to you!
All the best to you 😁
@patrick I feel you. I spent my 20s looking after a sick parent and was feeling sorry for myself at 30. Good luck to you my friend. You've given me perspective as well
Know what you mean broheim, In the last year and a half, three excellent people who helped me from a young tot to a grown man have left this Earth, and it's tough. I came back home to spend time with them, but also in the last few years back home, I feel I've lost a bit of that person who wanted to do more, and instead I've been just even working hard to just earn paychecks to make ends meet. The thing though, guys like us, as long as that song and idea is still inside of us, we'll eventually get there, because we'll keep pushing until it happens
I have never respected Joe Rogan more than I have before this clip. This is a facet of achievement for which a great many humans never strive, and he succinctly and accurately identifies the methodology.
Joe Rogan has always talked about these topics over the years.
Yes but he is clueless to the meaning of the quote.
@@roughhabit9085you are clueless
Joe "You have a wife that you have to feed" Rogan
LEATHER SANDALS saying this was seriously dumb on his part. And btw, quiet desperation is not based on gender.
Mans got cattle out back and a wife to feed
@@TheStonesQT93 I think he was just generalizing. Relax buddy.
Because today’s women have no clue how to cook....
TheStonesQT93 Yeah you think that, but its not true. Not in the same way anyways.
I remember watching this 4 years ago. As a 20 year old. I’m a dad now, and I’m trying to escape. I’m building my business from the ground up and now I can relate to this.
I still have no idea what to do with myself and I'm 30. Ever since middle school when we did career searches I never knew what to pick. Quiet desperation is right.
Have you figured it out yet? All the best man! 👌
Look up Sadhguru on (this topic), watch a few videos and come to your own conclusion. The wisdom this man spits is thick
Dont fuck around with utube vdo
Me too
Give it time!
This clip hit me so hard. I thought I was the only one to feel like this .
Some of us have to make an honest living. It may not be glamorous, but if others want to live these charmed lives, we have to create and maintain that infrastructure.
What is "honest" about your living then? The fact that you "honestly" can't do anything better with your life?
@Randy Porter You two knuckleheads did not understand. He meant that not all of us can be fking CEO's...some people have to be AP clerks in order for the CEO's to have people to order around...
For example, my father does not know who dafuq Roe Jogan is...he couldn't give a fk less....so Roe Jogan needs people like you and me in order for him to rack up the dough, just for speaking...
StephenKingz why can’t we all be better and improve as a whole why do we have to stay stuck in the same broken system
@@indegruv He's keeping the world running. Shut up, kid.
This is the single most motivating thing I have heard in my life. Thank you Joe and guest. I am going to get at my life like it depends on it. God help me.
Your life depends on it !! Good luck! & get off your phone & social media while escaping. All the people you look up too didn’t spend a minute a day listening too or watching their idols. They mirrored their habits.
How’s the plan going?
Been going through this for years now smh I hope who’s going through any hard time emotionally one day gets better, and live a life you dreamed of or an just happy life. ✌️💙 to everyone.
What I like about Joe is that he speaks from a place of TRUTH. Most people live lives of quiet desperation. I have been that guy as well in MANY areas of my life (dating was the MOST painful). It is a VERY tragic reality that most people do not live in a place of empowerment day to day. It's never too late to change but he is ABSOLUTELY right when he says that the older you get the more you get LOCKED into situations (mortgage family responsibilities etc) that limit your options. The best way out is to learn how to live a lifestyle of MINIMALISM so your possessions don't OWN your decisions (sell your car just to see that you don't need it), stay the FUCK out of personal debt, and do not EVER perpetuate relationships that have gone BAD due to previous commitments. Good Luck everyone!!!!
Finally a message that has set me free! I hope whomever watches this video could also say the same! Stay strong brothers! We are all going to make it! 💪🏽
"...and die with their song still inside them."
That was a good movie.
I've done this 2 years ago and its almost a year now I'm doing what I love doing !
I really went for it . Now I'm slowly climbing the ladder as a full-time archer. BOW HUNTING full time in new Zealand 🇳🇿.
I don't have much but I love my life !
Be careful not to get sucked into this noise.
Live the struggle, it's where you'll find your real self.
Amen
I'm 29 and try to limit all my commitments. I'm single. Cheap rent. No car. No mortgage. No student loans. Some money saved up. Alright 9-5 job. I'm not wealthy by any means but i do feel richer than some of my "settled down" friends just because i have less responsibilities.
Wow!
What if less is more, and more is suffication?
I hope you're actually using your free time for something useful and not just for entertainment tho...
I'm 39, just running out the clock until I die.
Mick Resistor lol werd
don.t say that man, and don.t give up
@@danr154 i think there is a shit ton of guys like us out there we are just quiet and keep it to ourselves
We're just young men at the old mans bar, waiting for our turn to die.
I'm 17 and I feel that way
Thank you for this. This is my new video to watch to get motivated out of my current world of my own quiet desperation
I went for it and failed . Now I’m older and wonder if it’s to late for and I already missed my window. I’ve not given up but there is always that voice in the back of my mind saying it’s not gonna happen .
How did you go for it? And how old are you?
No risk
No reward
Oliver Man true, i tell that to myself when i play 8ball for 1k instead of 100
@@damjanjagodic2943 playing games is never risky, except if you think that life is a game then you are bound to fail. If you don't change than your addictions will consume you...
Bolt thrower
Unless you're born with great wealth
I couldn’t have said it any better. Mom and dad said,”Save your money!!!” “Stay in school and save your money,work the first year,living with your parents,pay off your debt,throw them something for putting up with your crap,and split…live and love life because it’s very short. I was 24 once. I’m 50 now and live in quiet desperation.
Bookmarked this in a journal after listening to it five or more times the first time I heard it. Wrote down the time and episode in that journal.
I went back to listen to it on several different podcast players. (This episode was before his move to Spotify.) Not there, not even on Spotify. SOO glad I found this here. Transcribed, and have several different ways to access this now. Thanks YT!
This is the realest clip I’ve ever watched. As joe talked, i began to cry
she's like how do people not afford stuff? I don't get it?
she doesnt get it because she was never a loser who did nothing with their life
@@williamperez492 I guess you would know.
Jimmy Turner goteem
@@TehUltimateSnake lol
@Guybrush Threepwood you just gave 2 opposite opinions
One of the single most motivating 3:42 videos on UA-cam. Should be a requirement for all people under 20 (or older) to watch every day.
This hits home for a lot of people.
This clip inspired me to quit my dead end job. I've spent the last two weeks printing out resumes and applying for jobs everywhere. This was the push I need to start anew
Needed to hear this this morning. I already watched the interview but I needed to hear this part again.
Are you ok pal? 8 years ago I was like this & one day when my soon to be wife was at work I just packed my clothes, threw my phone away & moved to another country & started a new life, , I feel bad for walking out on everyone but I was feeling suicidal at the time & I didn't have any kids.
Seen this pop up right as I'm going into work for the 23 day in a row. Body aching and brain tearing itself apart. This is Genesis of what's to come.
Good luck to you brother.
You will not last for the long haul working those kind of hours. I would encourage you only work 5 days per week and then get extra sleep the 2 days per week that you have off.
@@craigroberts1329 I have no life outside of work, so it doesn't hurt me too much. Haha I've been running on 4 hours of sleep for years. I still find time to work out too. Use it before you use it I suppose.
Joe describes this perfectly! When a man/women gets to this place in their life you can either suffer for decades or fight like you life depends on it to break out of it because it does! Anyone who feels like you soul is dying or dead - go fight for what you want even if it’s 1 hour a day to get their and while your fighting you WILL feel more alive than you have in years!
This is the most insightful talk ever. No jargon just straight truth. I know how that feels; I have been there; still there.
For every men; the road is rough till there’s a sunshine; that’s if there’s ever any!
Wife and I just turned 30, gonna try and do the best we can. Gotta get out of this town
Run man, run while you can.
The longer you stay, the harder it is to get out.
@@RussTeeTrombone Yeah gotta save what I can to put towards getting out
Here have a poem: Buddy Wakefield - My Town
How are you bearing up?
This is the most profound Joe Rogan video I've ever seen. He is able to so deeply tap into the reality that most people live. 🍻
What’s the guest called?
Complacency kills the chance to thrive and staying comfortable will get you no further than where you are currently. Push through the worst part of your life so that you can blossom in your future.
Know that you're strong and use that to push yourself.
That's how I communicate to myself and I hope someone finds it helpful.
I needed this Sir. Thank you!
I have heard this a million times and I have finally started an e-commerce business and I have about to finalize everything.🙏
I've heard and known of stories of people who one day, in their 30s, 40s or even 50s, completely change their lives, its never too late. Its difficult, and time will never come back, but if there's a will there's a way
I just love how Joe is always in touch with reality nomatter how rich he gets 😊
Its because of the DMT.
@@mrnopy6707 Maby
Yeah that's true he actually knows this coz he was once where we all are
Who here is between 20-25? What are you guys doing?
BenAddict19 have no fucken idea
Apprentice stonemason now, university was useful in some ways but largely a very stressful time consuming detour
School, job soon, chasing girls. Could be worse.
Hell
Lunch time fpr me
This really spoke to me. I feel so stuck right now and its deff because i'm comfortable and not taking risks. I need to plan my escape.
I saw this during the podcast and knew someone would make this clip. Thank you. This is dope.
"you gotta be caffieinated and motivated... and you gotta go! and you need discipline.. most people dont have that" - every young person needs to hear this.
This video changed my life I was 22 working at a deadend warehouse job living life check to check not seeking change, i set a plan saved my money and chased my dreams to be truck driver, it took lots of work sacrifices and effort but I fought like if my life depended on it I’m 24 and officially a truck driver for a oil field company I think the biggest satisfaction out of my path was the risk and commitment I did 2:29
Congrats! And Don’t stop there!
26 still living at parents house and going through opioid withdrawls with barely no money to do anything i can say is the worst desperation you can ever get in. i wake up out of bed every morning feeling broke and like im 85 years old and i dont see how i can have intuitive or motivation to do anything because of how i feel. i want to stay sober but its such a trapped feeling man
Damn, I feel like this at times, I feel trapped, I try my best to stay positive and thank God for all the blessings he has given me.🙏🙏🙏
I'm young and don't have any serious responsibilities but still feel this way. What I worry about at least is what I should be doing with my life and not having the resources necessary to fulfill my desires/falling behind/being seen as a loser etc. It can definitely see how it can get worse with age though given the way our society is run and familial obligations. You have less escape routes the more responsibly you have.
Very true Joe, sometimes ya just got to go for the dangerous route and take a shot at getting out of the routine.
Great episode, and these off-topic remarks were actually my favorite part. As with a lot of things, Joe’s been there and done that, but what sets him apart is the level to which he’s thought it through and understands success/failure. Caffeinated & motivated!
Thank you so much joe Rogan. I needed a secondary father figure and I am glad that I got know about you few years ago. Thank you.
I feel like this was about me. I cannot stand another day like this.
Such a powerful video. I'm in this place right now! Trying to forge an a escape plan
Idk why but when Joe said, “planning your escape” at 2:01 I got chills
Joe is absolutely f*cking right. As 30 years old man, I spent 9 years in a career that I don’t like, which I followed based on parents and older people advice. However with a year and a half hard work enough saved money I was able to escape that hell and find the job I like
What job is that?
@@lucid.manifestthe bleaches anuses
@@lucid.manifesttprolly coding
I overcame the fear of that quite desperation enough to change the world 7 times that I know of and eventually got named the superhero "The Blue Rose" by a local radio station in Seattle.
I was trained to lose that fear by Syfy author Frank Herbert in 1976 and a specialized thinktank group that spent a lot of time searching the world for people like me. (The Centrum Foundation).
I use that desperation like a tool to create ideas, then pass those ideas to the people that can make them happen. It's easier than you'd think to change the world, at least for me.
I also believe that self imposed responsibilities and the fear it brings are what limit most people.
The number of keys you have on a ring can often reflect your responsibilities and subsequent fear.
I'm a professional busker.
I have 3 keys in my pocket, and I can change the world.
On a side note:
Love the shows Joe.
Clicked the link, seen it was the hoarse-whisperer and stopped it immediately.
Best interviewer ever, being interviewed. Brilliant, just brilliant.
Good work joe
Very enlightening mate
The safe path does leave you stuck
This strikes a nerve with me so much mate
im 41 and i spent the past 20 years saving up for a house to move out of a bad area. i first bought a small house for cheap, recently flipped it and made 50k off it and with the other amount of money i had saved i finally moved out of a bad area to a country area that is extremely safe. people dont lock their doors. i bought a 3k square ft house. but now im 41. you know what womena re out there for 41 year olds? they are the ones who fucked up their lives in their 20s and now the hard working men who spent the past 20 years building a stable life only have these unstable women to pick from. 4 kids, no jobs, no cars, all content creators which means they sell patreon, live with their parents still. because i chose the right path in life to become stable before stupidity of being stuck in the ghetto forever and worked my way out of it, i have no one to share it with. and im going to die alone. and thats not a boo hoo moment, its a moment thousands of men are living right now.
Her schweddy balls NPR voice is hilarious
That's what it is! lol, an NPR voice. I was trying to think of what it reminded me of.
They’re so big she can’t fit the whole thing in her mouth
Ha¡! Hit the nail on the head.
It's actually aggravating, it almost kept me from finishing the video
Yes yes
I was just watching one of his videos for the first time on my brothers phone and all of a sudden I get the video in my home feed ON MY PHONE. THEY’RE LISTENING TO US!!!
Joe is spot on, no sugar coating. This is something that's not talked about often cause, as men, we feel that we shouldn't vent and therefore suffer in silence.
I'm 35 just started a odd business thats begining to succeed now after a year grind after working a decade in restaurant management hell. The path out took me tossing my whole life in the air and rearranging the pieces afterwards. He's absolutely right, work the dream like you're life depends on it. It kind of does.
No wife, no kids, no debt, no pets. Freedom!
I'm a fan of Joe rogan just because of this interview.. this helped me a lot in times that I felt lost.... Im planning my escape.. its going great😊
44, wife, 2 kids under 12, mortgage, cars, kinda stuck in my job. Yes, this is the situation many of us are in. I have this constant feeling of things could be so much worse, but life is drudgery on a day to day basis.
Carrying the light is hard, but that's all that keeps me going. That and trying to give the kids a chance!
Totally agree! At the end of the day, it comes down to priorities, how important they are to you, and what you're able to give up and what you're not. I'm not one to live a "traditional" life (with a house, spouse, kids, and a 9-5). I don't know if I'll ever want those, although I understand why many people do. I don't think that's for me because of some of the downsides mentioned in the conversation. Having a non-traditional lifestyle also has downfalls. However, I am happy with the decisions I've made and the life I have.
If you don’t have a 9-5, what do you have if you don’t mind me asking
Traditional life style is not for me no kids no wife am happy I feel like I can win the battle of life GOD WILLING !!
Yes will want be around kids when I have lots of windows to escape from and to where I want
@@shawnchristianson324 creat ur own business
I’m in this process now! I am so ready to run for my sanity!
wish u peace man
I'm 30 with no kids, and I make roughly 40k a year in San Diego, should I focus on having a family or my financial freedom.
I wish I can go back in time and tell my younger self that I love him give him a hug and that everything is going to be ok
Been there, really feeling like you need to change from deep down inside. The good news I have and I now have a kick ass company!!!!!!! With the perfect family!!!!! Joe you are a great person.
Never listen to anyone who speaks with a spiritual inflection...
The Lecture Room hey man this sentiment interests me. Could you elaborate? Just curious.
Mars Rover essentially it’s an attempt for one to control another...
The Lecture Room agreed. Thanks.
TRUE
Very big brane
Wal mart job, potbelly, mortgage, unhappy marriage, horrible sons, maxed out credit cards. Had a profession before covid. Used to be a competitive bjj practitioner. ( Purple belt), even coached a little.
Now the 9 in nightstand seems more appropriate.
Im right in there. Im in my plan to breakaway. God please help 😢
I feel like I need to listen to this on loop for the next few days/weeks/years.
Went from a town of 8000 people to Alaska on my own at 23, feelsgoodman
Leslie Moore how’s you do it??
You live in a state where there are like 6 males per every woman ... No thanks...
Joe owned this clip...awesome
Absolute truth!!!! when you get stuck for years is bad, cause you lose motivation to do anything and keep wasting time and repeating the same mistakes over and over again.
Breaking that loop in your 40s is very hard.
fuck man im 42
@@lasvegasti It's just hard, not impossible.
Back to school full time, while working my dead end job full time at 40. This shit is hard, but not as hard as it would be to live everyday with no hope of change. ✌️
I'm only 23 and am already in a huge rut. I'm American but living in Europe. I love living her temporarily but my job is sucking my soul out of me. I want to pursue music, but part of me is holding me back out of fear of not making it. Every year I go through this. I can't scratch the itch or shake the feeling that it's what I need to do in life. Though it's such an uncertain field. Idk.. I feel that's my whole generation. "idk"... "what if"... "I _could_"... "I _should_".... "I would".. It's like a spell that we're cast under... And I personally attribute it to technology's distractions, though I won't shift the blame. Of course I'm responsible.
I think about this a lot. I'm almost 23 and I work at a warehouse. A friend from high school is now a senior at University and recently got an offer to intership at NASA. Meanwhile I have wasted 5 years of my life doing low level jobs. I was always the smart one at school and it burns me inside knowing that my friend gets to hang out at NASA meanwhile I chill at a warehouse with a bunch of people i dont want to talk to.
Do something about that then
Bro, you're still mad young. Go to school if that's what you want, you have plenty of time to turn it around, but don't waste any of it
Intellectual points to Rogan for catching the Thoreau thing. I did. I didn't think he would.
I really f'n needed to hear this at this very moment. I won't let you down Joe