Best PS5 Video Settings Demonstrated Using LG CX OLED TV
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2020
- We explain & demonstrate all the video settings on the Sony PS5 (Playstation 5) using an LG CX OLED TV, including [4K Video Transfer Rate], [Adjust HDR], [Deep Colour Output] and [RGB Range] "Automatic" vs "Limited" vs "Full", as well as suggest our recommended best settings.
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If your TV only has [Black Level] "Low" or "High" (for example LG C9 outside PC Mode), then the correct settings would be:
- [RGB Range] "Limited" on the PS5; and
- [Black Level] "Low" on the TV.
Vincent, there has been a lot of noise and various videos on UA-cam Re the issue with raised black levels when viewing hdr or dolby vision footage. Can you please discuss this and give us your thoughts? Could there be a software fix for this?
This is holding me back from the oled.
I game a lot and need dark areas to be detailed etc.
Really hope you read this
Is PC mode the recommend? Even with ps5 not doing 4 4 4?
@@bixo_papao I think so I took a close up screen shot and changed between pc mode and normal and the pc shot was ever so slightly crispier
Thank you Vincent!
Wouldn't that cripple the range? It sends 16-235 which is less accurate then 0-255, no?
Spent 18 minutes watching for him to tell me to leave everything on automatic. And now my 2020 is complete.
Haha Hahaha hahahaha
Yes, a video is definitely needed regarding the forced HDR. There’s lot’s of misinformation being posted online saying that SDR being inside an HDR container is not affecting the display on calibrated displays.
Vincent, you are appreciated in the community. Godspeed.
Definitely another video explaining the best PS5 HDR settings would be helpful.
Yes! Make more vids on this. I have C7 and C9 OLED and would love recommendations on those!!
Yes make a vid measuring how to adjust the hdr calibration in the ps5 menu im really interested in your findings
@MonsterKat these are usually really rough and don't typically end up with great HDR settings.
Adjust the value until you can't see the logo at all, then just turn one point up or down to "barely see it"
@@xxdanierukunxx yea thats what I've been doing and with hgig it never is barely visible its always clearly visible being 1 click from being invisible completely. DTM off is the only mode that actually let's u set it to barely visible thats why I'm interested in whatever testing results Vincent comes up with
For a good calibration of HGIG, you need turn off DTM and adjust HDR on PS5, and turn on HGIG on TV.
@@NightmareonAnyStreet_ that’s the point man. If you have HGIG on it hard clips to the peak nits of the tv.
Thank you HDTVTest, your videos had a big influence on my decision. PS5's are nowhere to be found, my 2016 Sony Bravia is over 4 years old and I was wondering if it was worth it or not to upgrade my TV first until the PS5 becomes more widely available. Which TV is best for PS5 and how to best optimize the settings is exactly what I wanted to know, and these highly informative review videos answer everything. So glad to discover this channel. I love my Bravia and didn't plan on replacing it when I get the PS5. But the price, picture quality, input lag time and features have improved so much in the last 4 years that I think now is a great time to buy. I'm very partial to Sony products and looked long and hard at the X900H, but this LG looks unreal so I'm going for it next week. If anyone seeing this comment already has this TV with a PS5 running on it, I'd really like to know what you think.
Just want you to know Vincent your content is greatly appreciated and you are the best on UA-cam by a long way for this stuff.
I’d really like you to go over an in depth video of how you have your lg cx settings on the TV optimized for ps5
I'm curious why people keep asking for this. Why would the TV be set any differently for the PS5 than it is for any other Blu-ray or media player, other than having game mode enabled? He has calibrated his TV using Calman for SDR and HDR and he uses those same settings for all sources. If you want the calibrated settings then get Calman for yourself.
@@krazyfrog because it’s not just about enabling game mode.
Rexarthur Ramos yes it is
@@eddieescobedo9975 putting the tv on hgig is another setting to adjust. You don’t just put your tv on game mode and call it a day. Not if you don’t care about color accuracy and artistic intent.
@@rexplorer.official truth
i really would like to see an analysis of why hdr being forced into sdr apps/games is bad.
i know its bad, but maybe sony will take notice if someone shows them why its not desirable to have it on all the time.
Can't wait to get my new tv tomorrow and rewatch this.
Love your humour sir, found your channel whilst looking for a new tv and have found your videos a great help. I will continue to watch your videos even when i've purchased one!
I asked for this video and so I want to thank you for doing it for us!
I’m sure he did it just for you. 🥴
U r soooooo SPECIAL 🤪
@@ItzTruthHurts Are you blind? He said for US
@@user-fo6rj6ud8q improve that reading comprehension before it’s too late.
The one we’ve all been waiting for! Thanks Vincent! Hopefully Sony sort out VRR, ALLM and the 4:2:2 issues soon!
And the forced HDR 🤬
The patch is available for download on lg site and should roll out. Next week
Just to point out that my TV is a 4K & HDR is supported & is able to “120 Hz Output” but what really bugs me it is saying that my TV is at 3840 x 2160 - 60Hz & I can’t figure out why it’s saying it’s only saying it’s running at 60Hz instead of 120Hz but it says I can “Enable 120Hz Output” but I’m still running at that level of frequency. The color “Color Format” says: When displaying 4K HDR 60Hz, the color format will be YUV420 or YUV422 instead of RGB due to HDMI 2.0 transfer speed limitations.
My HDCP is a 2.3
Information for the HDMI device
HDR: Supported
Frequencies (HDR): 24 Hz, 25 Hz, 30 Hz, 50 Hz, (YUV422/420), 60 Hz (YUV422/420). These are the available frequencies for 4K output when HDR is in use.
Then the frequencies of (Non - HDR), 24Hz, 25Hz, 30Hz, & 60Hz.
What do I need to do if I need to do since my TV is a 65” 4K UHD SAMSUNG brand but like I said it’s picture is in 3840 x 2160 - 60 Hz & my system is able to let me enable the 120Hz Format but I’m still getting the 60Hz instead of 120. Just checking to see if anyone would know what to do since I have the my 4K HDMI Cable hooked up to it’s supported area to enable the 120 Hz but still getting it at 60Hz that I don’t know why though but even though I’m not having any trouble with the frame rate on my system but when I’ve been watching these videos to help your system run in FULL 4K 4:4:4 of the best quality picture & still watching tv, not having any problems as well in having it’s picture in 4K, not any flickering or anything as well while watching a 4K movie as well on my PS5
Yes!, Please do a video further detailing the issues of SDR running in HDR container, this is very interesting topic and hopefully it will help shine torch on this subject matter and the ill effects of running SDR in this way.
That's huge effort you are putting there!!
Thank you Vincent!
I'd also love to see a video with your recommended LG CX settings for the PS5! Thank you and great work as always.
Yes, that's what I thought this would be and now I'm very sad :'(
Yeah he wen through them on the Xbox video, maybe they're the same?
me too. i still dont know if i should calibrate hdr in ps5 main menu with DTM on or off.......an what abaout HGIG... i'm testing and depending which scene in a game the one or the other looks better... but i have to know at least once how i calibrate it right!
@@riktreutmann6530 Same, I'm specially confused with HGiG, because the result varies a lot depending on the game. It'd be nice to know more about it because I can barely find info online.
@@Sylvalum Oh just saw the video. He answered bmmy question :D Bestie
I've been waiting for this video so long! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks Vincent, was waiting for this video. All the best :)
I've watched several UHD discs now and honestly I'm blown away just how much better the picture and HDR quality is compared to the Xbox One X I was previously using, literally worlds apart....
@HDTVTest can we get your preffered tv settings for aps5 on a LG C9 or B9 similar to what you posted for the Series X?
Would be good to see this - unless he’s using the same ones he used on the Xbox video
Thanks for recommended ! Did you put warm2 on settings TV ?
I’ve waited so long for this. My life is now complete.
Watching this after ordering my CX, can't wait!
C9: You can verify the output with the hidden menu which is accessible by Menu (long press of settings button) --> Programmes --> Hover with the cursor over "Programme Tunings & Settings" --> Press 1 1 1 1 1
The hidden host diagnostics dialog opens, use the D-pad or the magic remote to select "HDMI Mode"
Mine is showing on the top left corner:
3840x2160P @59.89HZ RGB 12BIT BT2020_RGBORYCBCR
(in PS5 menu)
Hi @ratchet, could you please share your settings? Are you using PC Mode and Auto Auto?
I’m not 100% happy with my settings for HFW
I’d be really interested in learning more about HGiG and properly setting adjusting the HDR on the console. Another channel recommended turning HGiG off before adjusting HDR on the console THEN turning on HGiG. I definitely trust your advice more but would be interested in hearing more about why it should be one way or the other.
I too would hope for a HGIG calibration video
Yea I wanna know exactly how many ticks up and down is correct because I’m not sure
@@manyakgaming1346 14 clicks ,14 clicks ,0 clicks. For LG CX on HGIG
Thank god we have a man like vincent i have the same tv he has and learning something new everytime i watch these videos and with next consoles too so thanks vincent your really helping me out
Thank you for your clear direction. Most people don’t go into depth like that and I thank you for that🤙🏼
Setting HGIG to on in the LG CX OLED settings before adjusting HDR on the PS5 is a really helpful tip. Demons Souls looks amazing now. Thanks!
@MonsterKat He is saying to turn HGIG on first and then perform the PS5's OS level HDR calibration.
Ludogatari Does Demon’s souls even support hgig? I thought it was only Cold War, modern warfare, and no man’s sky as of now?
Hmm, conflicting info here:
ua-cam.com/video/OiI2cqQahus/v-deo.html
@@Churrowhisperer HGIG is about the TV and console handshaking about tone mapping. All HDR games support HGIG.
Ludogatari Are you 100% sure about that? A lot of sources seem to indicate that not every game supports hgig. Sure you can turn on hgig for whichever game you want but I don’t think that means the game was designed and optimized for hgig in mind like those three games I mentioned.
So for short, leave everything as it is. Recommended.
Yes, but it’s nice to get an explanation for the settings as PlayStation explains nothing.
@@miroslavscherkl3533 No. I think I'd just like the 18 minutes back. To be honest.
100% agree 😒
Everything is Automatic - Matthew Good Band
+ Use PC mode on the input and HGIG for Dynamic mapping
Thanks for explaining this Vincent. You’re awesome !
I'm sure you have helped many people as myself buying a lg cx this years. Lg needs to sponsor you. Best wishes. Thanks
you are the only one that is actually super helpful with this kind of stuff. Can you please make a video about the HDR adjust settings on PS5 and Xbox?
what about the setting for the tv itself, brother?
Thank you Vincent! I was waiting for it. greetings from Spain!
Right on time! Was just looking at your xbox videos to try to get the best settings for my gx.
What are your recommended settings in the TV?
I recommend the settings he used for the Xbox series X. He made a video of that. My TV looks great especially playing COD.
@@bichosus Which video mate?
ua-cam.com/video/5Y9qcXMQg_s/v-deo.html
Would love to know your setting for LG CX for PS5. Thx Vincent!
Hello I would like to thank you very much for taking the time to make this video it was truly very useful to me! You have explained everything verey well and I have learned some interesting things! :)
my tv was doing some weird flickering but setting it to RGB auto and black auto saved me Thank you!!!!
Pls can u make a setting video for for ps5(sony XH90)
Can you do C9 settings video for ps5. Thanks!!
Fantastic! thank you for explaining the auto settings versus manual Vincent
Love your videos your the only one who really explains all.this stuff the right way I got a 65 gx thanks
Vincent, please, could you do a video on (or just add to some other video) best PS5 settings for monitors🙏 for example HDMI 2.0, 240Hz, Freesync, with resolutions from 1080p to 4k 💝
PS5 does not support PC monitors, it has no 1440p support, no Freesync support & worst of all does not support 120/144Hz Vesa PC refresh rates, in order for PS5 120Hz to work on a PC monitor it must have TV 120hz refresh rate support in its EDID, not all PC monitors support this. Yes there is a difference between PC and TV 120hz.
@@voidtoast4880 thank you, yes, a whole lot of issues to be pushed - honestly not on Vincent but trough him onto Sony
Vincent, should we be engaging the PS5 in PC mode on the LG C9 / CX for 4:4:4 as we do for the Xbox Series X?
@MonsterKat the XsX will output 10bit 4L10 if you set pc rgb on the console and use pc mode on the tv.
@MonsterKat cod runs 444 60 bro
Only the driest of comic relief. Such a great channel. Cheers from Los Angeles!
I actually liked this explanation test! Now we actually know the video quality on PS5 is better than on PS4 or PS4 PRO
Can you do a video for the best settings on ps5/ 4k TV with HDMI 2.0 . Please.
"I'm going to put it in the top right corner because that's my favourite position"
This statement raises many questions...
I was expecting him to follow up with a joke 😄
Always aim for the top right corner, makes saving my shots in football rather predictable :)
Found it! Exactly the video I was looking for👍🏻
Thank you! :)
Perfect setting! 👌
Vincent, great video.
Does C9 has a way to display framerate info similar to the freesync information? I am familiar with the service info (by pressing 11111), but it does not seem to provide a real time info like freesync info here.
Yes I was wondering too, although c9 does not officially have freesync. Does the xbox sx or ps5 actually use freesync?
Hey Vincent, i have a 65 LG C9, do the settings for the CX still apply to the C9???
Yes pal. I have a C9 and everything he's explained here works amazingly on it.
@@Rin_FGC I have a C9 and there is no "Auto" option for me for "Black Level". I was wondering if you are running at some WebOS version update which is later than mine (my tv is however updated in the latest version at the moment). I had to set the following settings for best results
Black Level (TV) --> High
Dynamic Tone Mapping (TV) --> SGIG
RGB (PS5) --> Auto
@@grandpaatemybanana I have a C9 as well. The Auto option only shows up, when you select PC instead of gameconsole as HDMI device for the PS5
@@grandpaatemybanana outside PC mode than choose RGB limited on PS5 and low for black on your C9!
This has been taxing my brain for days :) Thank you
my man vincent once again coming in with the clutch
Vincent can you compare ps5 on the LG cX and the Q95T Samsung please ? Would really like to see which has the better image, thanks
2:19 legend
Thanks, been waiting for this!
Not quite sure! I was hoping that you'd dive deep into the TV settings.
Maybe I'll stick with the XBOX settings you recommend
Love my lg cx 65' your videos helped me pick the tv outta all oleds at the time
When using the highest settings on the PS5, how much input lag do you get when playing games?
I would really like to know. I know on the PS4 when you use HDR mode, you get quite a bit of input lag.
Can you perhaps please make a video on the PS5’s input lag? I believe it’s very important if we considering upgrading.
I get no discernable input lag.
LG CX & PS5.
10:34 "i am going to put it on the top right corner, because that's my favourite position" ... was this a classic vincent joke? :-D
Thank you vincent for the information .I have saved the video for future use already.
If anyone is curious how Vincent brought up that freesync "hidden information bar", you need to rapidly press the green button on the remote. I read that it's sensitive to speed so try varying your taps if you have trouble.
Could you do a PS5 video Settings using the Sony XH90?. That would be great
Will you be doing a video for the best CX settings for the PS5? Or is it the same as the one for the Xbox?
I’d really like a video on this too.
That would be great to see
I’d also like a best settings video please
I’m curious too if PC mode would be best for PS5 also
@@GaryGoodJob_ It looks like he left it in game console mode, since PC mode on the CX doesn’t allow an HGIG setting. Edit: this is wrong, see other replies. HGIG is available when the Picture Mode Setting is Game mode, even if PC mode is enabled.
hardest working solo man, liked and commented.💯
Great video! Thank you.
I will do the corrections ASAP, ofc I had Blacklevels on Low.
Me too. I was wondering why Demon souls would get so dark .... lol
Do you recommend changing the hdmi into pc under edit in hdmi section as you did with the Xbox Series X to achieve the 4:4:4 chroma ? Or just leave the setting as game mode on the LG CX ?
I'd also like to know this!
Would love additional videos detailing more calibrating of the OLED CX for the PS5!
Thank you, you can confirm the same thing to us with the qled qe55q80t or 95t with the ps5 it must be the same settings I think at the level of the PS5 and the HGIG of the tv, once again bravo for your work.
please do one of these for the samsung q80t tv settings with the ps5
yeah or Q90!
I’d love to hear your ps5 settings on a Sony x900h
This
+1 🤞
Yes to this 👍🏻
I actually did some tweaking myself. And believe me this tv almost doesn't need any enhancements. Gamemode is nearly accurate in color. You can boost contrast to 100 if you like. Personally I don't like it. And color to 54 only 1 down, so not needed at all. Do the adjust HDR on ps5 and done. Things like adv. contrast enhancer fluctuates the colors to much. Leave local dimming at medium (less blooming) and X-tended dynamic range at high (in HDR) Also do the external device setup for Hfr. Colour temperature on expert 1. Makes the colours so much more real and more different colours. Tried all the other settings, but it'll feel like a houseparty with to many disco lights. I still wanna hear and see what Vincent comes up with. Wanna see the perfect values of the HDR adjust and calibration for the Sony x900h (xh90).
@@MatijsMeeren good looking. I have the same TV, was looking for videos to get the best out of it
Definitely do the HDR/ SDR comparison test thing. I'm intrigued.
Yes please do another video on the output id appreciate it i struggle with knowing what to put
Any way to get a similar free sync menu on the C9?
7:00 if you “Enjoy Creative Intent” subtle 😂
+1
Haha, when I got my PS5, I looked at the availability of options. I thought to myself "How is Vincent going to make a video saying just leave everything at 'Automatic' ", you didn't disappoint though!
Trying these on my LG 77” CX :) (best TV I’ve ever owned!!!!)
Can I use the same settings on my C9?
Could you explain the best settings on LG OLED CX for PS5? Just like you did with Xbox Series x? Thank you!
You are literally watching the video you’re asking for. In the first 30 seconds he mentions his ps5 is hooked up to a lg cx.
@@JKA-TML Sorry I mean the TV settings for PS5
I totally agree, he didn't go in detail in the TV settings
@@JKA-TML this is "literally" a video about the PS5 settings for the LG CX, which is not the same as LG CX settings for PS5. Come on.
Game mode
Thanks for this.
looking forward to your announced seperate HDR calibrating video!
Is that also for LG BX?
What about the LG input icon, should that be set to PC? I'm still not entirely sure what that icon does and why it changes things. Last you said that was the only way to enable 4:4:4 capability. Does this still apply here?
Same question
@MonsterKat didn’t the video just show it in 12bit 4L8?
To elaborate a bit more, what does the PC icon ultimately do? 4:2:2 vs 4:4:4 ? or maybe 4:4:2 vs 4:4:4 ? I'm kind of failing to see why this option is even there, i.e. why isn't everything set to the PC icon mode always?
Awesome video thank you
FINALLY!! I’m so happy! 😊🤘
I calculated 4K@60 w/ 4:4:4 chroma to only take 15 Gbps. I may be having trouble calculating data rates with the addition of chroma subsampling, and would greatly appreciate your help!! Here are my examples.
For 4:4:4 (Full RGB) - 3840*2160 = 8294400 pixels * 60 fps = 497664000 pixels/s * 3 color channels (RGB) * 10 bits/color channel = 14929920000 bit/s = 14.93 Gbps
For 4:2:2 - 3840*2160 = 8294400 pixels * 60 fps = 497664000 pixels/s * 2 color channels (4+2+2=8, 8/12=0.66, 0.66*3=2) * 10 bits/color channel = 9.95 Gbps
For 4:2:0 - 3840*2160 = 8294400 pixels * 60 fps = 497664000 pixels/s * 1.5 color channels (4+2+0=6, 6/12=0.5, 0.5*3=1.5) * 10 bits/color channel = 7.46 Gbps
Is my math wrong?
Very late but I'll reply anyway. The math is not wrong, however you are forgetting Hblank and Vblank, "pixels" you don't see, which bump the bandwidth up to almost 18GBps. That should fit in HDMI 2.0, but that speed is the aggregate (6+6+6) and is never reached. You actually get 80% of that, which is not enough for 4K60 RGB 10bit even without Vblank and Hblank factored in.
Thanks! Please do some Sony X900H content with PS5! Want to make sure we're good for #NextGenGaming! #PS5Secured #XboxSecured
Great vid as always Vincent. I was wondering if you had any suggestions for 30fps games as the images appear choppier than on other displays on the cx?
Yea Vincent please do the video of adjusting hdr with hgig thank you!
@HDTVTest Can you explain your “RGB Range Auto” recommendation further? I was surprised by this recommendation with the PS5 since I think you've typically recommended forcing "RGB Range Limited", and I think others such as @DigitalFoundry & @mylifeingaming have typically recommended "RGB Range Limited" as well.
For example, from the LG CX/C9 settings video for Xbox Series X you stated: "One thing to take care of is to check that black level is reproduced correctly. So Low would be the correct value, and I would be inclined to switch it on Low all the time. Whereas if you selected High it will be expanding the signal to Full Range which may create a bit more banding with the wrong input signal, so Low is generally the best idea."
I've found that my 2015 LG OLED and even my newer 2018 & 2019 LG OLEDs will occasionally not detect the range correctly when set to Auto. With that said, I've always exclusively used RGB Range Full if I'm connecting to a broadcast/professional/PC monitor as these seem to expect 0-255 all the time (unless calibrated for 16-235).
How can I access that "secret information bar" (Easter egg menu) on an LG C9? Pressing multiple times the green button does not work :(
I am hgoing to leave a dot, coz i want to know also
Press quickly, in succession, the green button (with two dots). When it appears you can dismiss it with the back button. The next time you invoke it, it will appear in a different corner, and it will cycle through the four corners every time you invoke it.
This doesn’t work on my C9
@@maxmaxneolit nope, doesnt work on my CX
7:02 yeah i agree, that hdr is really making me enjoy that creative content ;)
Im new to the channel and i realize its more for videophiles and i appreciate your explanations and expertise. I do think we could use a quick "dummy summary" at the very end...
Im just leaving everything on automatic.
Question - I have an LG C9 - it doesn’t have black auto - what would you recommend ? Low / High?
In that case, [Black Level] "Low" on TV; & [RGB Range] "Limited" on PS5.
Black Level Auto is PC Mode only... QY and YQ bits in EDID and AVI Infoframe are used for negotiating quantisation levels.
@@JoShUa95160 yes. Not only limited has 220 steps (for 8 bit) per luma and 225 per Cb Cr in place of 256 steps in FULL 8 bit, but there is also higher luminance possible in limited if you will use higher than 235 (counting from 0 for luma Y) or 240 (CB, CR). You can read EBU recommendation 103 for further details.
@@hdtvtest Can you do an in depth video about the recommended picture mode setting for the PS5 and the GX/CX ?
Based on this and the XSX video i assume you recommend leaving OLED Light and Contrast @ 100 for HDR Game ? OLED 80 and Contrast 85 for SDR Game ? PC Input ?
Brightness 50, Sharpness 0, Color 50, and Tint 0 on both SDR and HDR Game ?
Looks like HGIG for DTM and White Balance Warm 2 ?
Pc mode on the c9? Does it make any difference?
So what about hdmi black level in the C9? I'm assuming to still leave it on low as this TV doesn't have an auto setting, only low and high.
Referring to the "Avoid" slide at the end of the video, Vincent mainly recommend NOT to:
1. PS5 - Auto & TV - Low (Your setting)
2. PS5 - Full & TV - High
I'm in the same boat as you with a C9.
So I'm going PS5 - Auto & TV - High.
Auto = full rgb so = high black lvl
@Find the Door absolutely awesome! Looks really good. I can't really tell a Hugh difference between console mode with PS5 at limited vs PC mode with PS5 on auto rgb. But I'm leaning towards PC mode with rgb on auto. Ghost of Tsushima looks amazing!!!
@Find the Door The C9 doesn't have an "Auto" setting for black level. That's why I choose Auto on PS5 and High on C9.
@@Wildxmo I believe he is right. To get to PC mode.. Press home button, chose the home icon.. Select the first icon on top right. Then on left hand side of screen it should have your hdmi input.. Click it and scroll down to PC mode and select it. Then go over to save on the right hand side of screen. Then you must recalibrate hdr on the PS5. Looks nice
finally it’s here! 💯