Nice review. I like the idea of having batteries that can get you through a 24 hour power outage, and a fuel generator to recharge the battery after that. You waste a lot of fuel when you are only powering light loads for long periods of time. Better to just run it occasionally to recharge the battery.
Just a heads up for anyone thinking about buying an Ecoflow power station. If they are out of an item, their website will not state this. Therefore, they will take your money for something they don't even have in stock. I ordered a River 2/panel combo for my daughter. The panel was shipped, but the not the River2. I had to email them to find out what is going on with the River2. That's when they informed me that they won't have any until the end of July.
I agree with you 100% brother! I said the same thing it’s so beautiful that you don’t really wanna use it in rough areas, but that is what I use it for living off grid. They should make a more rugged version of this so I won’t feel so bad if I get a scratch.
Ruggedized version makes incredible sense for contractors. You could be charging it while driving to the site. Plus even charging from the vehicle would be quieter than most gas generators.
I have been a EcoFlow user since Gen 1, good products individually but as an ecosystem they are not good about backward compatibility across generations. With the costs of their products not everyone can afford to buy everything at once but if they don’t they will have trouble completing or replacing things once the generation changes over. That should be a * next to every EcoFlow product being reviewed until they stop having their proprietary batteries have planned obsolescence. If you want these things put in peoples houses you need to have it so they can be built overtime with pluck and chuck capability across generations in terms of stacking and their batteries under their A/Cs. Great products aside from that but as an eco-system they are thinking like a tech company not a household infrastructure maker.
The problem is not the batteries but the high frequency inverters cannot handle consistent high demand loads for extended periods of time. Most failures come from MOSFET'S failure on the battery side due to being overloaded. Most people who own these devices won't be using them for high demand applications for long periods of time, thus the Chinese companies can offer what seems to be a good warranty for up to 5 years. They know the inverter and other internal components will fail, while the batteries will remain viable for several years using this as a marketing ploy. That's my one problem...
Yep. I plan on using solar for a wall unit AC to keep cool in high Texas heat during no power situations. I've read from electrical engineers that you should get a low frequency transformer based inverter. The high frequency mosfet's won't last a year with heavy use.
Wow, your comment resonates with my situation. My Delta 2 had this issue after 1 month. I used it for consistent static loads (only using 60% of rated inverter output) and it started crapping out. Is there a company that you would recommend over Ecoflow?
Could we plug our 30 amp plug from our panel for the gas generator into this? So it would replace the gas generator in our system? Thanks for the video!
I live in Florida, and hurricane season is approaching. I am considering one of these, but I am still shopping around for a better deal. Also, Anker sells them.
Awesomesauce video Adam!! I know who's house I want to head to after our next hurricane!! This would make it SO much easier to work outside. If you want to ruggedize it, Just spray some Line-X (or latest one) on it. Obviously tape off some important sections first. That would make for a GOOD follow up HX video. Just like the follow up on the Volvo XC90 wrap we are still waiting to see happen! LOL
@HaxmanXTRA is it the vinyl wrap that protects the paint underneath? Hell with our current weather, you would be able to stretch it without any problems.
Very cool, Haxmeister! Thanks for sharing this. If I didn't already have my propane generator I would consider this. Cost would be my main concern ...I'd like to know total cost including solar panels. Guess I'll continue with my existing units. Thanks again! Take care, be safe and God bless!
The price. I can get 1500WH portable LFP units these days for just $699. So extrapolate that to 4000WH and it should be $1850, add in the 240V and a few bells and whistles and this should be NO MORE than $2500.
Thanks for opening the port with the Anderson Powerpoles in it. Who the heck does the powerpoles sideways like that?!? I'd need to build a converter cable to switch from those sideways powerpoles to normal ones. lol.
@@AskIveSolar Not joking. I've never seen Anderson connectors in that orientation before. Google "Anderson Powerpole Images" and see what I mean. If you can easily disassemble that connector on the Ecoflow and orient it like "normal", that would definitely be a plus.
can you use a traditional generator to charge the ecoflow? Is it safe due to THD, or do you need an inverter generator with around 3% THD? In a disaster situation to save gas on a traditional generator I would like to use a battery generator to power my house. I would rationally and use the battery generator and turn on whats needed on my panel and use the gas generator for charging, so I can have more days to survive with power. In Texas Harvey was the worst! At my property as far as I could see I was surrounded by water, and no power for weeks. That experience has made me prep now, so I have 3 gas generators and one Anker Solix F2000. I would love this Ecoflow someday.
The problem with gas generators versus solar generators is that in a serious grid down situation gas will eventually run out. There will always be sunlight. That is why I have a wood-burning stove to back up my propane grill.
Always? there are a lot of it depends scenarios on that. It doesnt have to be one or the other. The combination of the two makes for a very flexible capability.
You say it can be recharged by a portable home generator, a regular home generator or a inverter home generator? When i researched Bluette it had to be an inverter generator.
$0.50 per watt-hour (or less) is a good guide for power stations. So like $500 for a 1024Wh is ok (blk friday for D2 was even better). So eventually this 4096Wh will be $2K.
These are great for eight hpurs of no electricity. What about if a person is without electricity for a week in the wintertime and no solar panels. How does a person recarge the Eco Pro in this situation?
@@Kennethswoodcarvings Hello! If there is no sun and electricity from the power grid for a long time, then after a while any station will be discharged. In this case, using a gasoline or propane generator can help. The advantage of the EcoFlow Smart generator is that if you connect it to the charging station via a special DC-DC cable, it can turn on charging powerstation if it sees that the station's battery is almost discharged. Of course, you can use other gasoline generators. One of the most reliable generators in the world is Honda, which has a resource of thousands of engine hours.
@@charlesdup6803 The Ecoflow Smart Generator comes with a special DC-DC cable with an XT150 connector and additional control contacts. This cable can be used to connect the generator to the Ecoflow battery station, and it will control the generator. When it is discharged, it gives a signal to the generator to start and begin charging it. Unfortunately, your Honda generator cannot be connected to the Delta3 station with such a DC-DC XT150 cable. You will have to manually start your generator and charge the station with a regular AC cable and a regular outlet.
That xboost works by dropping voltage draw to the device. Not a great idea to use that with devices that have chips in them. I own some original Delta Pro products, including the first duel-fuel smart generator. And, the original smart home panel. I am very disappointed Ecoflow has decided to make crossover compatibility difficult if not impossible between that original line of Delta Pro products and the Pro 3 or Pro Ultra product lines. There appears to be a similar lack of compatibility between the Pro 3 and Pro Ultra lines in some instances based on a conversation that I had with their product support team. Modularity and cross-compatibility is a huge selling point with me when it comes to back-up and off grid power solutions. Ecoflow appeared to have a business model like that at first but now seems to be headed in the opposite direction. I do understand there may be electrical design constraints with some of that, but it isn't unreasonable to expect a product like the original dual-fuel generator to be compatible with the entire Delta series.
Nice review, but you "don't even know the final price of this is", and yet you'll provide coupon codes in the link below. When doing an official review, please include the price for a complete review.
Don’t forget it’s heavy 50 kg two peoples need to pick it otherwise back broke , price is to high as watt hour , better buy life for battery hour time less price and simple inverter and get 500 watt charging capacity it’s not for everyone limited users
Question: I want to buy this device in Ukraine. In Ukraine, the electrical system is 220 volts. Will this device operate from 220 volts. It should charge from 220 volts, and give 220 volts?
If you don't know exactly what you need don't ask Ecoflow customer support for any advice. They are clueless. That's what I did LOL and ended up with the Ecoflow flow Delta pro that I needed to power a of all things 240 volt well pump. I called to see if that model supported 240 volts and they just told me to use the boost LOL. It was about then that I started doing my own research. The Delta pro was only 120 volts and I needed to combine two together for 240 volts. That could be interfaced with a backup feed on one's breaker box. The absolutely garbage piece of junk transfer switch that Ecoflow provides is a joke. Bottom line advice is that you better know exactly what you need before you even think about purchasing an Ecoflow system. I am sure this probably applies to other systems also.
Nice review. I like the idea of having batteries that can get you through a 24 hour power outage, and a fuel generator to recharge the battery after that. You waste a lot of fuel when you are only powering light loads for long periods of time. Better to just run it occasionally to recharge the battery.
Just a heads up for anyone thinking about buying an Ecoflow power station. If they are out of an item, their website will not state this. Therefore, they will take your money for something they don't even have in stock. I ordered a River 2/panel combo for my daughter. The panel was shipped, but the not the River2. I had to email them to find out what is going on with the River2. That's when they informed me that they won't have any until the end of July.
I agree with you 100% brother! I said the same thing it’s so beautiful that you don’t really wanna use it in rough areas, but that is what I use it for living off grid. They should make a more rugged version of this so I won’t feel so bad if I get a scratch.
I will scratch it and sandpaper it right of the box. Problem solved.
😂😂@@ivaylotsankov7292
Ruggedized version makes incredible sense for contractors. You could be charging it while driving to the site. Plus even charging from the vehicle would be quieter than most gas generators.
Author's problem described at 5:55 and it's the lack of rugged version.
Secret Cabinent ...Expert level.
My husband would love to buy more wood work accessories!
Great Idea !!
I think your like the 15th YT ber that is reviewing this in the last 2 days... I want one to review ;) nice work!
Yup. I have three people on my subscriptions reviewing it today. I'm guessing they all got one for free and were able to release the videos yesterday.
My guess is to expect a sale by end of summer
Sending out all those units to YT folks is a part of marketing scheme
The one problem is I can’t afford one.
Affirm interest free payments over 24 months can help make dreams come true
I can buy it but it will drain half my savings 😂
Agreed.
Agreed, price is just ridiculous
😂 yes u can. Here's some cash 💸 💰 🤑 🤪
I have been a EcoFlow user since Gen 1, good products individually but as an ecosystem they are not good about backward compatibility across generations. With the costs of their products not everyone can afford to buy everything at once but if they don’t they will have trouble completing or replacing things once the generation changes over. That should be a * next to every EcoFlow product being reviewed until they stop having their proprietary batteries have planned obsolescence. If you want these things put in peoples houses you need to have it so they can be built overtime with pluck and chuck capability across generations in terms of stacking and their batteries under their A/Cs. Great products aside from that but as an eco-system they are thinking like a tech company not a household infrastructure maker.
The problem is not the batteries but the high frequency inverters cannot handle consistent high demand loads for extended periods of time. Most failures come from MOSFET'S failure on the battery side due to being overloaded. Most people who own these devices won't be using them for high demand applications for long periods of time, thus the Chinese companies can offer what seems to be a good warranty for up to 5 years. They know the inverter and other internal components will fail, while the batteries will remain viable for several years using this as a marketing ploy. That's my one problem...
Yep. I plan on using solar for a wall unit AC to keep cool in high Texas heat during no power situations. I've read from electrical engineers that you should get a low frequency transformer based inverter. The high frequency mosfet's won't last a year with heavy use.
Wow, your comment resonates with my situation. My Delta 2 had this issue after 1 month. I used it for consistent static loads (only using 60% of rated inverter output) and it started crapping out. Is there a company that you would recommend over Ecoflow?
Agreed. I would much rather have this in a job site rather than a gas generator
Commercial for Ecoflow
Can you do a comparison of the Delta Ultra Pro vs the Pro 3? I had a Reliant transfer panel just installed.
I would think the reliance transfer panel should connect ok using the 14L - 30 receptacle.
@@larrypredika8744 I purchased the Delta Ultra Pro. I'll see how it goes, not here yet!
Nice presentation and easy to understand. Good Job!!
Could we plug our 30 amp plug from our panel for the gas generator into this? So it would replace the gas generator in our system?
Thanks for the video!
Exactly. This a quite power source
I live in Florida, and hurricane season is approaching. I am considering one of these, but I am still shopping around for a better deal. Also, Anker sells them.
Awesomesauce video Adam!! I know who's house I want to head to after our next hurricane!!
This would make it SO much easier to work outside.
If you want to ruggedize it, Just spray some Line-X (or latest one) on it. Obviously tape off some important sections first.
That would make for a GOOD follow up HX video.
Just like the follow up on the Volvo XC90 wrap we are still waiting to see happen! LOL
I keep contemplating finishing the Volvo wrap. Not many people care about watching it though. I still have the wrap in my shed. 😂
@HaxmanXTRA is it the vinyl wrap that protects the paint underneath? Hell with our current weather, you would be able to stretch it without any problems.
Do you know if it will work/function standing up (Vertical). I have a tall cabinet in RV. Thanks
Very cool, Haxmeister! Thanks for sharing this. If I didn't already have my propane generator I would consider this. Cost would be my main concern ...I'd like to know total cost including solar panels. Guess I'll continue with my existing units. Thanks again! Take care, be safe and God bless!
Great video thank you by any chance do you have the model number.
Another issue Eccoflow has across the board is no filter to keep your $3000 device clean inside.
Great video, is the Delta Pro Ultra still better than this Pro 3 since it has more PV input and I think it is more portable?
Original about 14lbs lighter and unless you need 220 I still like the original or even two Delta Max units.
The price. I can get 1500WH portable LFP units these days for just $699. So extrapolate that to 4000WH and it should be $1850, add in the 240V and a few bells and whistles and this should be NO MORE than $2500.
But how do the companies make money if they do everything at cost?
But this thing can keep the fridge and lights on if power goes out while you're at work
Hope you can help me, the white power light continues to flash on and off after the unit is turned off. Is this normal?
So does this have the same issues as the Eco Flow River 2 where it will not charge from solar all the time?
Champion is good to charge batteries, especially when you have 48v Lithium -1C that is lower battery heat and more current.
Will it run a 15000 BTU window air conditioner and a refrigerator and flat-screen TV?
Have they fixed the thing where it will auto on after charging with solar or whatever?
the battery is rated for 16 megawatt hours. 4kw times 4000 charge cycles
Thanks for opening the port with the Anderson Powerpoles in it. Who the heck does the powerpoles sideways like that?!? I'd need to build a converter cable to switch from those sideways powerpoles to normal ones. lol.
Is this an inside joke possibly because you can switch around Anderson connectors as you need.
@@AskIveSolar Not joking. I've never seen Anderson connectors in that orientation before. Google "Anderson Powerpole Images" and see what I mean. If you can easily disassemble that connector on the Ecoflow and orient it like "normal", that would definitely be a plus.
BTW, aside from the weird powerpole connector, I really love the Delta Pro 3. I'm contemplating putting one in my RV.
can you use a traditional generator to charge the ecoflow? Is it safe due to THD, or do you need an inverter generator with around 3% THD? In a disaster situation to save gas on a traditional generator I would like to use a battery generator to power my house. I would rationally and use the battery generator and turn on whats needed on my panel and use the gas generator for charging, so I can have more days to survive with power. In Texas Harvey was the worst! At my property as far as I could see I was surrounded by water, and no power for weeks. That experience has made me prep now, so I have 3 gas generators and one Anker Solix F2000. I would love this Ecoflow someday.
The problem with gas generators versus solar generators is that in a serious grid down situation gas will eventually run out. There will always be sunlight. That is why I have a wood-burning stove to back up my propane grill.
Always? there are a lot of it depends scenarios on that. It doesnt have to be one or the other. The combination of the two makes for a very flexible capability.
@yarpos Maybe I don't understand your reply. Besides Keith Richards, what will last longer than wood or sunlight?
That's what the dinosaurs thought. LOL
You say it can be recharged by a portable home generator, a regular home generator or a inverter home generator?
When i researched Bluette it had to be an inverter generator.
$0.50 per watt-hour (or less) is a good guide for power stations. So like $500 for a 1024Wh is ok (blk friday for D2 was even better). So eventually this 4096Wh will be $2K.
Hope it's better than the delta pro , I had 2 , one lasted a year , the replacement lasted a day
For how many hours can I run my camper consumption of 15Amp and 3000Wht thank you
What is Wht? There is W. There is Wh.
It would be nice if the DP3 would come with a CD.
maybe put it on a handtruck with off road tires, this thing is so cool. i wish i could afford one.
These are great for eight hpurs of no electricity. What about if a person is without electricity for a week in the wintertime and no solar panels. How does a person recarge the Eco Pro in this situation?
EcoFlow Smart generator will help in such a situation :-)
@@SergioStarter How will it help?
@@Kennethswoodcarvings Hello! If there is no sun and electricity from the power grid for a long time, then after a while any station will be discharged. In this case, using a gasoline or propane generator can help.
The advantage of the EcoFlow Smart generator is that if you connect it to the charging station via a special DC-DC cable, it can turn on charging powerstation if it sees that the station's battery is almost discharged.
Of course, you can use other gasoline generators. One of the most reliable generators in the world is Honda, which has a resource of thousands of engine hours.
@@SergioStarterI have the delta pro 3 and I have a honda 3000ei. What connection cable are you referring to making it automatic? Thanks in advance!!
@@charlesdup6803 The Ecoflow Smart Generator comes with a special DC-DC cable with an XT150 connector and additional control contacts.
This cable can be used to connect the generator to the Ecoflow battery station, and it will control the generator.
When it is discharged, it gives a signal to the generator to start and begin charging it.
Unfortunately, your Honda generator cannot be connected to the Delta3 station with such a DC-DC XT150 cable.
You will have to manually start your generator and charge the station with a regular AC cable and a regular outlet.
the amount of simultaneous charge/discharge is paramount.
That xboost works by dropping voltage draw to the device. Not a great idea to use that with devices that have chips in them.
I own some original Delta Pro products, including the first duel-fuel smart generator. And, the original smart home panel. I am very disappointed Ecoflow has decided to make crossover compatibility difficult if not impossible between that original line of Delta Pro products and the Pro 3 or Pro Ultra product lines.
There appears to be a similar lack of compatibility between the Pro 3 and Pro Ultra lines in some instances based on a conversation that I had with their product support team.
Modularity and cross-compatibility is a huge selling point with me when it comes to back-up and off grid power solutions. Ecoflow appeared to have a business model like that at first but now seems to be headed in the opposite direction. I do understand there may be electrical design constraints with some of that, but it isn't unreasonable to expect a product like the original dual-fuel generator to be compatible with the entire Delta series.
dual vs duel
Is there an ternational version 240 50 hz
Does it support pass through charging ??
Yes
@@uweburger
Sorry I meant to say while connected to the 50A hub.
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😄 Thanks!
Nice review, but you "don't even know the final price of this is", and yet you'll provide coupon codes in the link below. When doing an official review, please include the price for a complete review.
Don’t forget it’s heavy 50 kg two peoples need to pick it otherwise back broke , price is to high as watt hour , better buy life for battery hour time less price and simple inverter and get 500 watt charging capacity it’s not for everyone limited users
Not true,it had wheels and a pull out handle so you roll it around like luggage
I thought the new Ultra would something like this, just bigger.
Question: I want to buy this device in Ukraine. In Ukraine, the electrical system is 220 volts. Will this device operate from 220 volts. It should charge from 220 volts, and give 220 volts?
Paint it yellow, add black rubber bumpers, and boom, there you are hahaha
And not yet for EU version, but waiting for...
Twistlock like got jolly dans❤🎉
Nice! But only cost effective if you can get one sent to you for FREE! That's the catch though. 😐
Everything the Zendure SuperBase should have been.
They need to add some stand alone functionality to their expansion batteries.
The slowest one to recharge on solar panels. Like much much much slower than i expected.
A sponsored review is not a review. It's a paid advertisement.
My 1 problem is its peak watt output is only 8k watts. 3/4hp 240v pump peaks at 8,700 watts. 2 delta pro 1st gen's can handle 14.4kw on the 240v hub.
Hey Hax - Nice video. Appreciate the info. Thumbs up.
Thanks Chuck!
Plug in your dryer. lol
I’ll get right on that.
I heard somewhere of one which claims unlimited power...
Palpatine
Looks like a Mercedes.....guess that would explain the price tag. I thought these things would start becoming more affordable
Ecoflow is the Mercedes of the Solar Generator 😂
After watching this video and reading the comments. I am not buying this unit. Almost bought it, almost.
It's pretty ha
His one problem is that it not rugged enough. SMH
If that's your biggest problem with it then they are doing something right...
Why would you pick gas over this? $6000 reasons.. A comparable gas generator is only $800
Really do not care about how "sleek" it looks. Just want to know how it performs and its price
Too pretty.
If you just don’t care, pretty won’t be a problem for you.
Start by putting stickers all over it
Wow!!!! but costly...hehe.
If you don't know exactly what you need don't ask Ecoflow customer support for any advice. They are clueless. That's what I did LOL and ended up with the Ecoflow flow Delta pro that I needed to power a of all things 240 volt well pump. I called to see if that model supported 240 volts and they just told me to use the boost LOL.
It was about then that I started doing my own research. The Delta pro was only 120 volts and I needed to combine two together for 240 volts. That could be interfaced with a backup feed on one's breaker box. The absolutely garbage piece of junk transfer switch that Ecoflow provides is a joke.
Bottom line advice is that you better know exactly what you need before you even think about purchasing an Ecoflow system. I am sure this probably applies to other systems also.
You don’t know real power outages. Try 2 weeks of snow cloudy days so no solar.
After 11 years it will charge at 80%
We'll have nuclear fusion or a nuclear winter by then.
ecoflow do not honor there warranty you will have nothing but trouble from them and there support ...do not buy
their vs there
Sick humor.
You really lack the phantasy and skill to add a "snug" casing-shell some higet upwith weals to this?????
sick spelling too.
The problem is the extremely HIGH PRICE!!