Great to see a good bit of DIY happening, spraying is definitely the way forward. The only thing I’d say as a professional sprayer is that you should make sure you’re using the right mask. That JPS mask looked like it was only a P3 or P3R. This won’t actually filter out airborne paint particles, they will still get into your lungs. You need a mask with ABEK1 or AB1 as a minimum. Otherwise you are risking your health. Just a pointer! Happy spraying 👍🏽
So ... if you have touch ups from hanging pictures/shelves/bumps how will you respray without masking half a furbished room? As I am making a living from painting and decorating I don't see rollers and brushes go anytime soon.
P3R will be more than good enough for filtering out (water-based - which we should all be striving to use where possible for a long long list of reasons) paint particles, these things stop viruses that are massively smaller than the smallest paint particles you're going to see. An ABEK1 filter is for _vapours_ which are a whole different kettle of fish, if you're working with the sorts of vapours where you need that you're going to have the same issue with a roller - though I agree if you are you absolutely should.
I use the bigger version of this for doing empty full house jobs, it has proved to be an invaluable tool! One issue I found kept happening was when I used the clear decorators film it “held “ moisture from the spray as it’s obviously waterproof. It caused the paint to run down & off causing a lot of clean up. Also it had a tendency to act like a sail as the air hit it. I switched to the brown masking paper car sprayers use. Because it’s slightly heavier it stops the sail effect, it also soaks and holds any overspray. Hope it helps! Cheers for the vid.
I've bought the same type of Wagner unit as shown here and I concur with all the comments. I think it is the way forward with home renovation (at least) and the only "downside" I experienced was the additional mask out required (particularly ceilings). To give you an idea, my lviing room ceiling is approx. 50sqm with massive plaster cornices (150mm) all the way around. When painting using brush roller, just the cornices were an all day job. With this machine, I painted the lot in less than 15 mins. It really can be that quick. The machine itself works perfectly and produces excellent results prodviding you take some care with your paint types. The finish is way better than roller based painting, at least in my view (i've done a lot of that in my past) and if the surface is not 100% virgin, coverage is great. If virgin, you just need a bit more overlap in your paint strokes is all. Well done on the vid.
I've got a smaller Wagner unit and they are good. It's all in the prep and you can achieve very good results. They are also good for spraying furniture so you get a nice smooth finish rather than seeing the brush marks.
Im part way through a full house reno. First few rooms i rolled then i got fed up so bought this sprayer about 6 weeks ago. The finish is so good. I've only used it for white mist coats and white matt so far. Can't say I've got the hang of a 10 minute clean down yet though, it seems to take me ages. But high victorian ceilings are a breeze, and i'm totally converted. I've even bought a smaller sprayer for coloured walls.
Thanks for this, it couldn't have landed at a more opportune moment. I'm about to tackle a 27x15ft room, walls and ceilings and the thought of spending days with a roller was filling me with dread. Good summary and thanks for saving me the hassle.
Blimey, I’m always amazed at your ability and crack on attitude. Whilst not having any experience spraying rooms, I have thought it looks the way to go. To be honest though, as quick as that looked.. the pre and post prep I imagine is involved 😳 I’ll stick to roller, brush and a beer or two😄. Great video though, enjoy your Chanel and have learned a lot from all of your videos. 👍👍
I found the airless sprayer the best thing to use to painting coving/cornice. No brush marks, just a flat smooth finish 👍 I wish I kept my Wagner unit, guess I’ll be buying a new one when I do my new place up
Spraying is the way to go. I'm a decorator by trade and love it, the finish is unbeatable. I painted 2 coats on all of the woodwork in a 4 bedroom house in a day would've taken me 3 days by brush.
I’ve had my Wagner 250R Pro for two years in the box. Now I need to paint a 4.6m high wall x 10m I will use it but I’m quite nervous. You’re demonstration has encouraged me thanks.
24:00 touch ups. Trust me, anyone can get a spray finish touch up with roller or even brush. I've been working with Wagner, Graco units worth thousands etc the past 8 years, industrial sprayer day in day out. Thin down your product with suitable thinner/water/glycol etc and get flock foam rollers and take in larger sections. No need to respray unless your surface area is more than a couple metre square. Great job by the way, truly a master of all trades, you're universal logic and can-do attitude serves you well. your wagner airless is a fine investment, get back your time. Had some painters scoff at me, claiming touch ups can't be done, blacks and strong colours are impossible to work with. Have hundreds of customers to say otherwise, not even other professionals can see where I've done remedial work to others damage.
@@zarasbubble1748 as in a low volume gravity gun or airbrush? You'd think so, but it would involve masking off potential areas of overspray. I normally take in a larger section to a corner or spray down or up way out of a person's eyeline or critical light. Brush or foam roller works that way too. It's extremely hard to feather a wet edge with some of these water borne paints and guns. It either is a visible patch in sheen, or goes on too dry at the edge. Hope it works out for you if you need to give it a bash
I seem to live a parallel life to this guy, doing all the same stuff. Ive had two of these 250 and the 350 they are really good, I did a large semi all the way through in a day, however this was on an empty house! On fresh plaster sometimes the spray doesn't adhere too Well and In part I've had to sand down the wall after so when I re spray over it sticks... or just roller 1st then spray. Onky best for emulsion too ! Overall I'd say they are better than a roller, the finish is far better!!
I’m doing my first spray job in the kitchen today. I’m all about the ease. Especially where the finish looks so good. Hopefully this goes to plan. I can deal with the prep work so fingers crossed 🤞 thanks for the video. Very detailed and helpful. Good luck with the rest of your projects
Great helpful project...loved to sprayed finish ...looks very professional! 👏🏻👏🏻I loved all the colours but the blue colour was striking maybe you could ask your girls to give a little tour of the rooms in between projects/ school and just enjoying their space 😉🤗🙋🏻♀️🇬🇧💕jane
Soo as a decorator of about 15 years thinking of edging into spraying soon! But what i will say is can u get a just as good finish with a brush yes! Can you paint as quick as you spray yes! If you spend all that time and money masking up . As anything though spraying has its place great for certain jobs although a bad spray job is a nightmare to rectify !
As a flooring installer if you are getting carpet put back down they will be happy you left the old tack strip there for them. I just brought this unit looking forward to giving it a go.
I’m doing a whole house with one of these and all paintwork and have fantastic results but you must clean it to maintain good results.ceilings come out sport on ,I’ll never want to roller another ceiling again
Amazing thing really... Yes need to be flushed in the end ( cleaned ) but also you must clean roller/brush ... and it's more cleaner.. This is game changer... it's simply easier and makes painting more fun. Btw i feel you, it's really pain painting white on white... lol
Been watching your a channel for a while and must say very impressive. Watch the Wall panel video and the trouble you had with the paint finish.Try using Bedec aqua gloss/satin or Benjamin Moore paints. you will find the difference amazing, especially BM paints. If you want a proper acrylic then go with bedec. THE leyland paint imo are not the best
If you want to get rid from that fuzzy corner edge at 14:03, next time paint the paper tape with the color you are cutting from. It will seal the gaps and prime the paper tape, not allowing the other color (the dark blue in this case), to soak underneath it and leave those marks. Great video. Thank you. New subscriber here. :)
Clear caulk also works great. I usually do that when I'm masking flooring. Especially when it's really nice hardwood . Gives you a Lazer sharp line. It also works great for doing accent walls with heavy texture
What a revelation! A mate has one of these (yellow) units and has offered it to me. I'm a decorator. It looks like I need to have a go. One tip when doing cabinets or trim with a roller - always lay the paint off with a brush. You can get a 'Laying Off Brush' specifically for it. yes, you need to be quick with water based paints, but the finish can be exquisite. Floetrol keeps the paint 'open' for a bit longer, and for big panels, wipe them down with a wet cloth immediately before painting to give you half a minute longer to get the paint on. The best paint I've encountered so far is F&B Modern Eggshell or Tikurilla, but the paint tech is evolving all the time so I fully expect to see Dulux, Leyland and so on bringing new stuff. Oh, Zinsser do some magic paint - and even B&Q's Valspar emulsion is exquisite. Great vid. New sub.
I bought an airless like this one and found it a faff with all the buckets and paint can etc. I got the Wagner with the hopper that you just pour paint into and it was a lot less messy set up
I've just started a new job today with a newly purchased wagner 350m sprayer. Never used one before. But the results are absolutely amazing. The coverage. The finish and the speed is unbelievable. There is no way on earth can you paint using roller and brush as fast as you can with a sprayer and the level of finish you get with the sprayer. I had painted x4 bedrooms 2 bathrooms and landing and stairs in 2hrs which is unreal. Great video mate
Every tool is great for a specific job. E.g a impact driver is great for framing and rough jobs, a hand screwdriver is good for door handles and your more likely to slip and scratch the handle with a impact driver. With decorating, a sprayer is brilliant if you have lots of rooms to do. If you only got one room, it’s probably easier and quicker prep wise to use a roller.
Just bought the Graco Max handheld sprayer 2nd hand for a cabinet job I’m doing. Hopefully will pay fir itself in terms of labour on this 1st job.slightly alarming that Graco only promise 200L out of the pump before it fails, but we’ll see.....would be interesting to check back in a year and see your thoughts on longevity.
Hi Bud, I have been very ill last 12 Years and live in a 2 Bed Flat that now NEEDS a good Lick of Paint and because of my Condition Using a Roller/Brush would;nt be any good for me. I have watched a few of these vids now and i;m only 10Mins in and it;s LOOKING more and more Likely i;ll have to get 1 of these [Maybe NOT the 1 your using] But a Wagner sprayer is Deff on the Table Which will also come in very good use for my Grown up Daughter to paint her House [I;LL END UP DOING IT] THANKS for uploading this Buddy.
Another great video again, I loved my sprayer complete agree with you in the prep but isn’t that in any job we do it also out ways the quality of the finish you get. The only gripe is is I would like a shorter line 1. Less paint to prime, 2. Could do smaller jobs. 3. Not in the way all the time.
Extremely informative video with some damn good advice! The Restoration Couple May I enquire as to the low tack masking you're using? It looks like it's superb on fresh paint surfaces!
My 18mo son sleeps through sds drilling! Less tiptoeing around sleeping children when they're young means you can make as much noise as you want later!
Best paint sprayer for newbies is a Graco gx21hf. This will do woodwork(trim) or walls. It has a hopper but will also suck from a bucket. They now do a battery gx21hf.
A very comprehensive review and I agree with much of the findings. We have the same Wagner and there's no doubt it covers the area very quickly. My only real complaint is the amount of mist which finds its way to the floor. In our case the carpet was being replaced so it didn't matter but I wasn't expecting quite so much dusting of the carpet. Personally I think you should have gone up/down and then left/right to ensure coverage. It also took us a while to figure out the by reversing the spray tip (green part) 180 degrees it allowed you to clear any blockages in the head. Overall I found the masking a bit of a drag and it's easy to miss bits. Apart from that a great video but I will only be using the sprayer for large projects.
When spraying paint with any type of sprayer, you do need to cover everything you don't want painted. That includes the floor. But realistically if you have a floor you don't want paint on, you need to cover the floor even if you use rollers or brushes because they too can easily spatter paint. No shortcuts for masking in other words.
Interesting to watch your film and hear what you think RC. Well done on keeping things quiet for your babbies by doing the work at night. I lived in Bavaria for 5 years and by law you cannot do loud building work, including DIY, between 12 midday and 2pm which was helpful because we had our 1st baby at this time and I worked from home as a freelance assistant animator, which is quiet work anyway. After 2 homebirths and raising our 2 babes to womanhood, I taught them both to point walls in lime and even employed both of them on one pointing job. Living in the countryside my house is my business base, I'm a lime putty plasterer who doesn't like to do the painting and prefer it when the client's get a painter in. Instead of brushing on the paint I use an electric sprayer which has a small reservoir, so I wonder how much quicker the airless system will be now that I have a whole dustbin of paint as my reservoir, it could really speed up the paint work. The only painting I will do is lime washing which I also make slake & make myself, lime putty is such a versatile material, you can do your floor, walls and ceilings plus the inside and outside painting with just one product as your base and no PVA's or waterproof chemicals added. The only problem with spraying is having to mask everything off and all the waste plastic, mastic, caulk and tape that ends up in landfill when we finish which is why I use and re-use a thicker plastic sheet with tape & staples for the spraying work, so my man expense is mostly masking tape and staples As you said, all the cleaning and the rigmarole of using this system for a small space just isn't worth the hassle. Best of luck with your family, I'm glad to be a daddy, we both jumped in at the deep-end and went for it in our 30's which luckily turned out to be the best age for child rearing, any later would be a nightmare.
Hi bud great to watch an expert! I bought similar product to start on a renovation project. However the instructions were hard to understand and I tried to use without flushing it through first. I cannot get it to spray now and think I may have flooded it. I e since try to flush the paint through the machine without success. Any ideas how I may do this as it was a costly piece of machinery not to work? Also are you supposed to add a little water to the paint?
Great video. I'm really tempted with one if these sprayers. One thing I worry about is overspray and a plasterer mate of mine said whenever he's seen this done, white must was everywhere. Thanls
The reason there's is alot if overspray is because like this guy he as just bought a sprayer and gave it ago . .. the way this guy sprays is not how its done the walls probably covered in runs.. this guy is a amateur...
Do you have experience using a spray for gloss work? You mention they're good for trim but it's not clear if you're just painting with a standard emulsion or not.
I'm about to paint a pretty massive space in my basement. BLACK ceiling (rafters), light gray walls, along with dark gray walls, and a powder room that will be a terra cotta color. Are there any pitfalls in using a large sprayer with these darker paints? Obviously the ceiling will come first...should I then work my way down in the paint colors from black to dark gray to light gray to terra cotta? I'll be using a brand new Wagner Control Pro 130. For the record, I am considering just painting the powder room with a roller since it's only a 6x6 space (feet, not meters)...so the possibility exists that I won't use the sprayer for that small space. Thanks...your video was really helpful.
Very helpful information and comments as well. Thanks for sharing! May I ask you a question please? Do you mask the walls when you spray the door jams? I understand that you are spraying them with some acrylic paint which is different from the emulsion /latex paint you are using for the interior walls and ceiling. Does it matter for the later application of the emulsion paint if that acrylic paint goes onto the wall as well around the door frames?
I painted our 3 bedrooms last week, one room we did "egyptian cotton" in silk and one wall a similar blue to yours. Did the cotton and left for a week, went to mask up with low tack frog tape for the blue, pulled the tape off straight afterwards and it peeled all the cotton colour off! Cleaned the walls down with sugar soap before so don't know why it didn't adhere properly. I could never mask off like you did as it doesn't seem to work with dulux silk! 😔
When you are spraying woodwork, what sprayer are you using? Also what paint do you use? I imagine it needs to be water based particularly for cleaning out and ensuring a good finish? Is it easy to clean?
When you spray ceiling and walls in different colours, then spray walls first. You would do ceiling first when rolling, but it is much easier to mask the walls than masking a ceiling.
I do the opposite, but I use spray shields. Sometimes I need to do some touch up by hand, but I still find it faster than masking everything. I do ceiling, trim/doors then walls. I don't expect my apprentices to be able spray using just a shield without some extensive training, but once you know how, you can turn over a house in no time.
How much did you water down the paint before spraying. I bought the same machine and found that it would constantly not keep pressure. Also curious to know what paint you used on the skirting
Great video! It would be useful to have a video that talks about the variation of airless sprayers from beginner to pro, from thinning to not thinning etc As always love your videos and keep them coming!!!
Bit late to this, I'm a decorator and have thought about spraying, watching most videos about the subject people always say about the prep but nobody gives a timescale, I hate using masking tape at the best of times and the waste of plastics and tape is..............If it takes an hour to mask up that small room and paint the ceiling, I could do that with a roller, the other problem I have most of mine is domestic, Carpets, Furniture etc not all jobs you can clear a room I have a small HVLP I use for drawer fronts etc if I build something, but the masking & clear up just seems to much hassle for me, a renovation or empty property, yeah gimme a sprayer, but day to day stuff not so sure, would love to know how much the materials for masking up & the time taken to mask up
Although I was not sure about the last colour, (dark blue I think), the coverage was very impressive and the machine worked without any problems that I could see.
Hi I bought me the big wagener for a project. I wasn't so happy. There was a nice smooth finish at some areas but some areas wasn't so great. I don't know why maybe lack or less experiences. However I wasn't happy with the result/effort/investing time etc if I would just it for my business from my experience I'm quicker with roller
Being a car painter that has used a airless sprayer to paint a couple house, how come you spray the wall with the sprayer using up and down strokes rather then left and right strokes. I have been spraying left to right as that's what I'm use to with cars. Do you think it makes much difference?
Thanks for the video! Thanks for the info. (Confession: I sometimes use a ... brush.). Also, looks like your unit is labeled the 170 in the US. The have cart-mounted and stand versions.
Good video, but I am not sure I agree with you last tip to roll the spray painted walls and ceilings, just for the concern of coming back in the future, by doing that you are actually now risking the roller marks again, what's the point.
This was great covered all aspects off I go to get a sprayer 😁. Only problem is skirting is oil based do I paint them before or after and can I spray oil based. Just imagining the clean up on the gun 👍
Sorry.. big fingers... So I am going to buy a sprayer to paint the whole house in off white. Like you said that the prep is the most important part of the job. That's where my kids will come in. They WILL have time to do the prep. Then I will spray everything at one time. Again thanks for a great video. Stay safe!!!
Hello. I’ve started painting newly plastered walls. The skirting, coving and doors are installed but not painted yet. Couple of questions: - for the walls already painted with roller, would you recommend sanding them before applying additional coats with sprayer - not sure why it’s better to paint the trim first and walls,ceilings second? Thx!
@16:26 does it matter if the skirting board paint gets on the walls a little. im about to spray the whole house skirting board and door trims and was going to mask the walls to protect from the satinwood paint getting on the walls but noticed yours went on the walls a bit. Does it really matter and result in problems with the wall paint going on it. both paints used on trim and walls would be a form of water based paint. Thanks
Great video man, thanks! One question: trims which you need to mask after painting you mask with a "light masking tape". Could you advice me a specific brand and or type? Thanks in advance!
Hi Konstantin, you can use Frogtape - Low tack masking tape specifically designed for a crisp, sharp line on delicate surfaces, such as freshly painted or plastered walls, wallpaper, treated wood and emulsion paint.
Hi really enjoyed the video. I have just invested on a similar unit, still to give it its maiden outing. Did you need to dilute the paint. I have a HVLP sprayer and find i do need to thin the paint or it tends to splatter.
One thing, sprayers have been around longer than rollers! Rollers were popularised in the 80’s by Sherwin Williams. A talk about safety is important as these machines run at high pressure. Also sundries to spray cost a lot. I personally think as a decorator it makes total sense, your unit is about as high as you would want to go as a homeowner, as maintenance also becomes expensive, of bigger sprayers.
Hate to differ but rollers were around mid sixties and I’ve had my Wagner 18 years spraying new construction weekly and only had serviced twice.. Buy my tips and accessories from China( 517 tips $6. Note I’m in Australia.Look after Wagners and they will last
@@alansimpson2217 not saying wagners don't last. I definitely don't think like some people do that only know the small wagner units. I know they make good stuff. We spray for a living so our requirements are different. For a homeowner this unit he has makes sense and wouldn't want to go much more expensive. Also yes rollers were invented in the 40's but didn't really get mainstream use until later on.. but i am just saying that a lot of people aren't aware that sprayers have been around a lot longer.
Hi great video, would love give the spraying side ago biggest worrie bleeding through tape and then you ain't going get good anoth edges. I've seen on over videos caulking the tape is that something people do. Cheers
Nice job mate but you need a lot more speed control with your strokes.. especially when coming to the direction change.. but good job bud. Love your videos, keep it up❤️🔥🔥
Day one, he sprays all of the trim, sands back the over spray off the walls. Day 2, he uses low adhesive masking tape on the trim, then sprays the walls.
I bought a spray gun - huge waste of time. Overspray is a huge problem. Beautiful finish but the time spent masking is not worth it (probably takes 3x longer just masking vs using a brush and roller. If you are doing an empty house and do not need to worry about overspray etc maybe but brush and roller is the way to go.
hey. great video ;) I came here for the wagner review, but I hope you don't mind me asking - what's the smaller spray gun called? I'd love to spray paint some furniture after I'm done with the whole house (for which I'm getting a pro250), but I feel like I'll need something smaller and fully hand-held for that. Like the one you have :)
Great to see a good bit of DIY happening, spraying is definitely the way forward. The only thing I’d say as a professional sprayer is that you should make sure you’re using the right mask. That JPS mask looked like it was only a P3 or P3R. This won’t actually filter out airborne paint particles, they will still get into your lungs. You need a mask with ABEK1 or AB1 as a minimum. Otherwise you are risking your health. Just a pointer! Happy spraying 👍🏽
Thanks. Will look into that before the next project. 👍
So ... if you have touch ups from hanging pictures/shelves/bumps how will you respray without masking half a furbished room? As I am making a living from painting and decorating I don't see rollers and brushes go anytime soon.
P3R will be more than good enough for filtering out (water-based - which we should all be striving to use where possible for a long long list of reasons) paint particles, these things stop viruses that are massively smaller than the smallest paint particles you're going to see. An ABEK1 filter is for _vapours_ which are a whole different kettle of fish, if you're working with the sorts of vapours where you need that you're going to have the same issue with a roller - though I agree if you are you absolutely should.
ABEK1 3M cartridge for gas/vapours? But it should also be used with P3 prefilter.
I use the bigger version of this for doing empty full house jobs, it has proved to be an invaluable tool! One issue I found kept happening was when I used the clear decorators film it “held “ moisture from the spray as it’s obviously waterproof. It caused the paint to run down & off causing a lot of clean up. Also it had a tendency to act like a sail as the air hit it. I switched to the brown masking paper car sprayers use. Because it’s slightly heavier it stops the sail effect, it also soaks and holds any overspray. Hope it helps! Cheers for the vid.
Good call. Saved me a frustrating learn cycle.
I've bought the same type of Wagner unit as shown here and I concur with all the comments. I think it is the way forward with home renovation (at least) and the only "downside" I experienced was the additional mask out required (particularly ceilings). To give you an idea, my lviing room ceiling is approx. 50sqm with massive plaster cornices (150mm) all the way around. When painting using brush roller, just the cornices were an all day job. With this machine, I painted the lot in less than 15 mins. It really can be that quick. The machine itself works perfectly and produces excellent results prodviding you take some care with your paint types. The finish is way better than roller based painting, at least in my view (i've done a lot of that in my past) and if the surface is not 100% virgin, coverage is great. If virgin, you just need a bit more overlap in your paint strokes is all. Well done on the vid.
What a diy man this fella is! Inspiring
I've got a smaller Wagner unit and they are good. It's all in the prep and you can achieve very good results. They are also good for spraying furniture so you get a nice smooth finish rather than seeing the brush marks.
Im part way through a full house reno. First few rooms i rolled then i got fed up so bought this sprayer about 6 weeks ago. The finish is so good. I've only used it for white mist coats and white matt so far. Can't say I've got the hang of a 10 minute clean down yet though, it seems to take me ages. But high victorian ceilings are a breeze, and i'm totally converted. I've even bought a smaller sprayer for coloured walls.
@@nathancumming1 thank you
I am thinking about buying this unit for my project just a question how coats need to be done for good finishing.
Thanks for this, it couldn't have landed at a more opportune moment. I'm about to tackle a 27x15ft room, walls and ceilings and the thought of spending days with a roller was filling me with dread. Good summary and thanks for saving me the hassle.
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That's about 30 minutes 1st coat ceiling 2nd coat ditto, 2 hours walls 2nd coat ditto total 5 hours,woodwork extra
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Blimey, I’m always amazed at your ability and crack on attitude. Whilst not having any experience spraying rooms, I have thought it looks the way to go. To be honest though, as quick as that looked.. the pre and post prep I imagine is involved 😳 I’ll stick to roller, brush and a beer or two😄. Great video though, enjoy your Chanel and have learned a lot from all of your videos. 👍👍
I found the airless sprayer the best thing to use to painting coving/cornice. No brush marks, just a flat smooth finish 👍
I wish I kept my Wagner unit, guess I’ll be buying a new one when I do my new place up
Spraying is the way to go. I'm a decorator by trade and love it, the finish is unbeatable. I painted 2 coats on all of the woodwork in a 4 bedroom house in a day would've taken me 3 days by brush.
I see comments saying you can’t roller touch ups because the finish is different. If you have to repair walls, how to you reblend the finish.
I’ve had my Wagner 250R Pro for two years in the box. Now I need to paint a 4.6m high wall x 10m I will use it but I’m quite nervous. You’re demonstration has encouraged me thanks.
24:00 touch ups. Trust me, anyone can get a spray finish touch up with roller or even brush. I've been working with Wagner, Graco units worth thousands etc the past 8 years, industrial sprayer day in day out. Thin down your product with suitable thinner/water/glycol etc and get flock foam rollers and take in larger sections. No need to respray unless your surface area is more than a couple metre square.
Great job by the way, truly a master of all trades, you're universal logic and can-do attitude serves you well. your wagner airless is a fine investment, get back your time. Had some painters scoff at me, claiming touch ups can't be done, blacks and strong colours are impossible to work with. Have hundreds of customers to say otherwise, not even other professionals can see where I've done remedial work to others damage.
Nice comment JG! There are a lot of nay-sayers in the dec trade unfortunately, but fortunately for both of us.
I thought you could also get one of those small handheld sprayers and re-spray the small section that way if you really wanted to?
@@zarasbubble1748 as in a low volume gravity gun or airbrush? You'd think so, but it would involve masking off potential areas of overspray. I normally take in a larger section to a corner or spray down or up way out of a person's eyeline or critical light. Brush or foam roller works that way too. It's extremely hard to feather a wet edge with some of these water borne paints and guns. It either is a visible patch in sheen, or goes on too dry at the edge. Hope it works out for you if you need to give it a bash
I seem to live a parallel life to this guy, doing all the same stuff. Ive had two of these 250 and the 350 they are really good, I did a large semi all the way through in a day, however this was on an empty house! On fresh plaster sometimes the spray doesn't adhere too Well and In part I've had to sand down the wall after so when I re spray over it sticks... or just roller 1st then spray. Onky best for emulsion too ! Overall I'd say they are better than a roller, the finish is far better!!
Brilliant bit of kit and to confirm I bought it based on your video demo. Thanks again and keeps the vids coming much appreciated.
This is the most informative review on this product. I might just buy it.
I’m doing my first spray job in the kitchen today. I’m all about the ease. Especially where the finish looks so good. Hopefully this goes to plan. I can deal with the prep work so fingers crossed 🤞 thanks for the video. Very detailed and helpful. Good luck with the rest of your projects
Hello, how did it go?
Great helpful project...loved to sprayed finish ...looks very professional! 👏🏻👏🏻I loved all the colours but the blue colour was striking maybe you could ask your girls to give a little tour of the rooms in between projects/ school and just enjoying their space 😉🤗🙋🏻♀️🇬🇧💕jane
Soo as a decorator of about 15 years thinking of edging into spraying soon! But what i will say is can u get a just as good finish with a brush yes! Can you paint as quick as you spray yes! If you spend all that time and money masking up . As anything though spraying has its place great for certain jobs although a bad spray job is a nightmare to rectify !
...actually enjoyed watching paint dry!
Fantastic achievement doing so much in such a short time. Spray finish looks great.
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As a flooring installer if you are getting carpet put back down they will be happy you left the old tack strip there for them. I just brought this unit looking forward to giving it a go.
I’m doing a whole house with one of these and all paintwork and have fantastic results but you must clean it to maintain good results.ceilings come out sport on ,I’ll never want to roller another ceiling again
Amazing thing really... Yes need to be flushed in the end ( cleaned ) but also you must clean roller/brush ... and it's more cleaner.. This is game changer... it's simply easier and makes painting more fun. Btw i feel you, it's really pain painting white on white... lol
Been watching your a channel for a while and must say very impressive. Watch the Wall panel video and the trouble you had with the paint finish.Try using Bedec aqua gloss/satin or Benjamin Moore paints. you will find the difference amazing, especially BM paints. If you want a proper acrylic then go with bedec. THE leyland paint imo are not the best
If you want to get rid from that fuzzy corner edge at 14:03, next time paint the paper tape with the color you are cutting from. It will seal the gaps and prime the paper tape, not allowing the other color (the dark blue in this case), to soak underneath it and leave those marks. Great video. Thank you. New subscriber here. :)
Clear caulk also works great. I usually do that when I'm masking flooring. Especially when it's really nice hardwood . Gives you a Lazer sharp line. It also works great for doing accent walls with heavy texture
What a revelation! A mate has one of these (yellow) units and has offered it to me. I'm a decorator. It looks like I need to have a go. One tip when doing cabinets or trim with a roller - always lay the paint off with a brush. You can get a 'Laying Off Brush' specifically for it. yes, you need to be quick with water based paints, but the finish can be exquisite. Floetrol keeps the paint 'open' for a bit longer, and for big panels, wipe them down with a wet cloth immediately before painting to give you half a minute longer to get the paint on. The best paint I've encountered so far is F&B Modern Eggshell or Tikurilla, but the paint tech is evolving all the time so I fully expect to see Dulux, Leyland and so on bringing new stuff. Oh, Zinsser do some magic paint - and even B&Q's Valspar emulsion is exquisite. Great vid. New sub.
I bought an airless like this one and found it a faff with all the buckets and paint can etc. I got the Wagner with the hopper that you just pour paint into and it was a lot less messy set up
I've just started a new job today with a newly purchased wagner 350m sprayer. Never used one before. But the results are absolutely amazing. The coverage. The finish and the speed is unbelievable. There is no way on earth can you paint using roller and brush as fast as you can with a sprayer and the level of finish you get with the sprayer. I had painted x4 bedrooms 2 bathrooms and landing and stairs in 2hrs which is unreal. Great video mate
thanks - excellent video and you covered it quite in depth
Every tool is great for a specific job. E.g a impact driver is great for framing and rough jobs, a hand screwdriver is good for door handles and your more likely to slip and scratch the handle with a impact driver.
With decorating, a sprayer is brilliant if you have lots of rooms to do. If you only got one room, it’s probably easier and quicker prep wise to use a roller.
Just bought the Graco Max handheld sprayer 2nd hand for a cabinet job I’m doing. Hopefully will pay fir itself in terms of labour on this 1st job.slightly alarming that Graco only promise 200L out of the pump before it fails, but we’ll see.....would be interesting to check back in a year and see your thoughts on longevity.
How you deal with repairs like when you need to touch up patch on wall ?
Thank you for your insights and impressions using the sprayer . . . very useful!
Hi Bud, I have been very ill last 12 Years and live in a 2 Bed Flat that now NEEDS a good Lick of Paint and because of my Condition Using a Roller/Brush would;nt be any good for me. I have watched a few of these vids now and i;m only 10Mins in and it;s LOOKING more and more Likely i;ll have to get 1 of these [Maybe NOT the 1 your using] But a Wagner sprayer is Deff on the Table Which will also come in very good use for my Grown up Daughter to paint her House [I;LL END UP DOING IT] THANKS for uploading this Buddy.
Another great video again, I loved my sprayer complete agree with you in the prep but isn’t that in any job we do it also out ways the quality of the finish you get. The only gripe is is I would like a shorter line 1. Less paint to prime, 2. Could do smaller jobs. 3. Not in the way all the time.
Extremely informative video with some damn good advice! The Restoration Couple May I enquire as to the low tack masking you're using? It looks like it's superb on fresh paint surfaces!
I’d like to know this too!
It looks like frog tape (yellow) to me, if so it’s brill stuff, wouldn’t paint without it now a days
Well done.
Best video I've watched as I'm investing in both of the tools which you've used.
Thanks
My 18mo son sleeps through sds drilling! Less tiptoeing around sleeping children when they're young means you can make as much noise as you want later!
Best paint sprayer for newbies is a Graco gx21hf. This will do woodwork(trim) or walls. It has a hopper but will also suck from a bucket. They now do a battery gx21hf.
Great finish & info. What's the plan behind the radiators?
Usually I’d have them off but it is such a light colour that with them masked/wrapped I could spray behind and get everything visible.
A very comprehensive review and I agree with much of the findings. We have the same Wagner and there's no doubt it covers the area very quickly. My only real complaint is the amount of mist which finds its way to the floor. In our case the carpet was being replaced so it didn't matter but I wasn't expecting quite so much dusting of the carpet. Personally I think you should have gone up/down and then left/right to ensure coverage. It also took us a while to figure out the by reversing the spray tip (green part) 180 degrees it allowed you to clear any blockages in the head. Overall I found the masking a bit of a drag and it's easy to miss bits. Apart from that a great video but I will only be using the sprayer for large projects.
When spraying paint with any type of sprayer, you do need to cover everything you don't want painted. That includes the floor. But realistically if you have a floor you don't want paint on, you need to cover the floor even if you use rollers or brushes because they too can easily spatter paint. No shortcuts for masking in other words.
Fantastic video … so practical/real world and down to earth .. pros and cons. Well presented .. will be watching more :)
Excellent video , very informative, answered all my questions
Interesting to watch your film and hear what you think RC. Well done on keeping things quiet for your babbies by doing the work at night.
I lived in Bavaria for 5 years and by law you cannot do loud building work, including DIY, between 12 midday and 2pm which was helpful because we had our 1st baby at this time and I worked from home as a freelance assistant animator, which is quiet work anyway.
After 2 homebirths and raising our 2 babes to womanhood, I taught them both to point walls in lime and even employed both of them on one pointing job. Living in the countryside my house is my business base, I'm a lime putty plasterer who doesn't like to do the painting and prefer it when the client's get a painter in. Instead of brushing on the paint I use an electric sprayer which has a small reservoir, so I wonder how much quicker the airless system will be now that I have a whole dustbin of paint as my reservoir, it could really speed up the paint work.
The only painting I will do is lime washing which I also make slake & make myself, lime putty is such a versatile material, you can do your floor, walls and ceilings plus the inside and outside painting with just one product as your base and no PVA's or waterproof chemicals added.
The only problem with spraying is having to mask everything off and all the waste plastic, mastic, caulk and tape that ends up in landfill when we finish which is why I use and re-use a thicker plastic sheet with tape & staples for the spraying work, so my man expense is mostly masking tape and staples
As you said, all the cleaning and the rigmarole of using this system for a small space just isn't worth the hassle.
Best of luck with your family, I'm glad to be a daddy, we both jumped in at the deep-end and went for it in our 30's which luckily turned out to be the best age for child rearing, any later would be a nightmare.
you can also get painting systems for auto fill rollers. if thats the finish you prefer
Good video dude! First time I’ve seen Wagner’s HEA.
Hi bud great to watch an expert!
I bought similar product to start on a renovation project. However the instructions were hard to understand and I tried to use without flushing it through first. I cannot get it to spray now and think I may have flooded it. I e since try to flush the paint through the machine without success.
Any ideas how I may do this as it was a costly piece of machinery not to work?
Also are you supposed to add a little water to the paint?
Great video. I'm really tempted with one if these sprayers. One thing I worry about is overspray and a plasterer mate of mine said whenever he's seen this done, white must was everywhere. Thanls
The reason there's is alot if overspray is because like this guy he as just bought a sprayer and gave it ago . .. the way this guy sprays is not how its done the walls probably covered in runs.. this guy is a amateur...
Great product have you used for oil based products if so how was the finish ?cheers in advance
Do you have experience using a spray for gloss work? You mention they're good for trim but it's not clear if you're just painting with a standard emulsion or not.
I'm about to paint a pretty massive space in my basement. BLACK ceiling (rafters), light gray walls, along with dark gray walls, and a powder room that will be a terra cotta color. Are there any pitfalls in using a large sprayer with these darker paints? Obviously the ceiling will come first...should I then work my way down in the paint colors from black to dark gray to light gray to terra cotta? I'll be using a brand new Wagner Control Pro 130. For the record, I am considering just painting the powder room with a roller since it's only a 6x6 space (feet, not meters)...so the possibility exists that I won't use the sprayer for that small space. Thanks...your video was really helpful.
Very helpful information and comments as well. Thanks for sharing! May I ask you a question please? Do you mask the walls when you spray the door jams? I understand that you are spraying them with some acrylic paint which is different from the emulsion /latex paint you are using for the interior walls and ceiling. Does it matter for the later application of the emulsion paint if that acrylic paint goes onto the wall as well around the door frames?
I painted our 3 bedrooms last week, one room we did "egyptian cotton" in silk and one wall a similar blue to yours. Did the cotton and left for a week, went to mask up with low tack frog tape for the blue, pulled the tape off straight afterwards and it peeled all the cotton colour off! Cleaned the walls down with sugar soap before so don't know why it didn't adhere properly. I could never mask off like you did as it doesn't seem to work with dulux silk! 😔
It's very common... Even if you prep well if previous paint jobs haven't been prepped well then that's often where it will fail...
When you are spraying woodwork, what sprayer are you using? Also what paint do you use? I imagine it needs to be water based particularly for cleaning out and ensuring a good finish? Is it easy to clean?
have you thought about a better sprayer yet?
When you spray ceiling and walls in different colours, then spray walls first. You would do ceiling first when rolling, but it is much easier to mask the walls than masking a ceiling.
Do you use same sheen on crown molding as on the ceiling ? What sheen do you prefer for ceilings and crown molding ?
What about baseboards? Is it baseboards first, then walls? Then ceiling?
If your spraying a complete room start with woodwork, then walls then finish ceilings last. Masking it this way is a lot easier
I do the opposite, but I use spray shields. Sometimes I need to do some touch up by hand, but I still find it faster than masking everything. I do ceiling, trim/doors then walls. I don't expect my apprentices to be able spray using just a shield without some extensive training, but once you know how, you can turn over a house in no time.
Arno. You answered the question I was about to ask for the very reasons you describe. Thank you.
What’s this like with gloss for architraves and skirting and frames
Where did you get your short extension for this?
How much did you water down the paint before spraying. I bought the same machine and found that it would constantly not keep pressure. Also curious to know what paint you used on the skirting
did you dilute paint mate or use as is?
Great video!
It would be useful to have a video that talks about the variation of airless sprayers from beginner to pro, from thinning to not thinning etc
As always love your videos and keep them coming!!!
Amazing results!! Very interesting!!!
Just bought this unit. Any tips for storage overnight without having to clean down please 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Just make sure both pickup hose and spray tip are kept wet or in paint. A disposable glove over spray tip is usually fine for me, (turn tip 90)
Bit late to this, I'm a decorator and have thought about spraying, watching most videos about the subject people always say about the prep but nobody gives a timescale, I hate using masking tape at the best of times and the waste of plastics and tape is..............If it takes an hour to mask up that small room and paint the ceiling, I could do that with a roller, the other problem I have most of mine is domestic, Carpets, Furniture etc not all jobs you can clear a room I have a small HVLP I use for drawer fronts etc if I build something, but the masking & clear up just seems to much hassle for me, a renovation or empty property, yeah gimme a sprayer, but day to day stuff not so sure, would love to know how much the materials for masking up & the time taken to mask up
Although I was not sure about the last colour, (dark blue I think), the coverage was very impressive and the machine worked without any problems that I could see.
Hi I bought me the big wagener for a project. I wasn't so happy. There was a nice smooth finish at some areas but some areas wasn't so great. I don't know why maybe lack or less experiences. However I wasn't happy with the result/effort/investing time etc if I would just it for my business from my experience I'm quicker with roller
Being a car painter that has used a airless sprayer to paint a couple house, how come you spray the wall with the sprayer using up and down strokes rather then left and right strokes. I have been spraying left to right as that's what I'm use to with cars. Do you think it makes much difference?
I can only guess that you don't want to be walking with the spray going. Vertical strokes can be done standing still.
@@colliedogjoy you walk when you are spraying skirting.. Don't think it makes a difference
Thanks for the video! Thanks for the info. (Confession: I sometimes use a ... brush.). Also, looks like your unit is labeled the 170 in the US. The have cart-mounted and stand versions.
Good video, but I am not sure I agree with you last tip to roll the spray painted walls and ceilings, just for the concern of coming back in the future, by doing that you are actually now risking the roller marks again, what's the point.
Looks good. Would it have been better to rake radiator off wall for one big area
Thanks for the info Tim, guess what I've just bought!!! 😂
rooms looking spot on!! I wish I had the drive that you do 👌
keep up the good work buddy.
I only use a sprayer for new dwellings and finish off walls with rolled coat
Yep...they seems to be the way on site
This was great covered all aspects off I go to get a sprayer 😁. Only problem is skirting is oil based do I paint them before or after and can I spray oil based. Just imagining the clean up on the gun 👍
Sorry.. big fingers...
So I am going to buy a sprayer to paint the whole house in off white.
Like you said that the prep is the most important part of the job. That's where my kids will come in. They WILL have time to do the prep.
Then I will spray everything at one time.
Again thanks for a great video. Stay safe!!!
Hello. I’ve started painting newly plastered walls. The skirting, coving and doors are installed but not painted yet. Couple of questions:
- for the walls already painted with roller, would you recommend sanding them before applying additional coats with sprayer
- not sure why it’s better to paint the trim first and walls,ceilings second?
Thx!
Brilliant. It looks wonderful.
@16:26 does it matter if the skirting board paint gets on the walls a little. im about to spray the whole house skirting board and door trims and was going to mask the walls to protect from the satinwood paint getting on the walls but noticed yours went on the walls a bit. Does it really matter and result in problems with the wall paint going on it. both paints used on trim and walls would be a form of water based paint. Thanks
Do you dilute the paint with water ??
Great video man, thanks! One question: trims which you need to mask after painting you mask with a "light masking tape". Could you advice me a specific brand and or type? Thanks in advance!
Hi Konstantin, you can use Frogtape - Low tack masking tape specifically designed for a crisp, sharp line on delicate surfaces, such as freshly painted or plastered walls, wallpaper, treated wood and emulsion paint.
Did you water the paint or straight out of the tin
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Great video and top honest video review, thank you. It's something I'm looking into now. Which Wagner did you use and do you still like it?
To repaint kitchen cabinets should I roll, brush or spray
When pulling back the tape did you notice any paint tear?
No, apart from one but where the paint hadn’t taken very well to some old caulk or coving adhesive. The rest came off minutes after I was done.
I usually pull the tape whilst everything is still wet. If it dries, it cracks. Wet paint won't crack.
Good job but you could just cut that in and roll it in like an hour or so
Did you find that the machine used more paint than rollers?
Did the machine suck up gloss paint for the skirting board ok?
What extension pole did you purchase? Is there a link anywhere? Great vid!!
Hi really enjoyed the video. I have just invested on a similar unit, still to give it its maiden outing. Did you need to dilute the paint. I have a HVLP sprayer and find i do need to thin the paint or it tends to splatter.
Excellent video, can you advise what is your recommendation for choosing the paint? What kind do you recommend? Many thanks
Looking at your respirator, FFP3? For paint you should be looking at gas and vapour cartridges maybe 🤔
Lovely job as usual
Water based, ffs get a life matey
One thing, sprayers have been around longer than rollers! Rollers were popularised in the 80’s by Sherwin Williams. A talk about safety is important as these machines run at high pressure. Also sundries to spray cost a lot. I personally think as a decorator it makes total sense, your unit is about as high as you would want to go as a homeowner, as maintenance also becomes expensive, of bigger sprayers.
Hate to differ but rollers were around mid sixties and I’ve had my Wagner 18 years spraying new construction weekly and only had serviced twice.. Buy my tips and accessories from China( 517 tips $6. Note I’m in Australia.Look after Wagners and they will last
@@alansimpson2217 not saying wagners don't last. I definitely don't think like some people do that only know the small wagner units. I know they make good stuff. We spray for a living so our requirements are different. For a homeowner this unit he has makes sense and wouldn't want to go much more expensive. Also yes rollers were invented in the 40's but didn't really get mainstream use until later on.. but i am just saying that a lot of people aren't aware that sprayers have been around a lot longer.
Hi great video, would love give the spraying side ago biggest worrie bleeding through tape and then you ain't going get good anoth edges. I've seen on over videos caulking the tape is that something people do. Cheers
Its if your using a brush it sometimes bleeds depending on the tape.. with a sprayer will be perfect
Nice job mate but you need a lot more speed control with your strokes.. especially when coming to the direction change.. but good job bud. Love your videos, keep it up❤️🔥🔥
At around 16:30 are you spraying gloss? How do you get away with not masking the wall, can you spray directly over the gloss thats left on the wall?
Day one, he sprays all of the trim, sands back the over spray off the walls. Day 2, he uses low adhesive masking tape on the trim, then sprays the walls.
@@stevewood7884 have you ever tried to paint over gloss with emulsion?
I bought a spray gun - huge waste of time. Overspray is a huge problem. Beautiful finish but the time spent masking is not worth it (probably takes 3x longer just masking vs using a brush and roller. If you are doing an empty house and do not need to worry about overspray etc maybe but brush and roller is the way to go.
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Hi there, great video very helpful! So you think the 250M is fine for spraying trim and doors fitted? (As well as walls) not too powerful?
hey. great video ;) I came here for the wagner review, but I hope you don't mind me asking - what's the smaller spray gun called? I'd love to spray paint some furniture after I'm done with the whole house (for which I'm getting a pro250), but I feel like I'll need something smaller and fully hand-held for that. Like the one you have :)
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Really balanced review.. 10/10 😀👍
Good video.. do you have to dilute the paint?
What paint do you use on the architrave and skirting?
Leyland eggshell or stain usually.
excuse me. but the 60 mesh filter between gun and hose is missing?