I've watched a dozen or more airless spraying videos in the last few days. Yours is head and shoulders above averything else. many thanks for taking the time to explain the whole process in such great detail. 👌
Hello @geoffmcmahon4453 hope you're well. I've only ever diluted any more than 10% and I've never had a problem. That being said I've only ever used Leyland paint.
After watching you're video on the Wagner 350m I have just completed my 1st ever spraying project on a 300m² storage unit! Without you're video I would've been completely goosed! The detailed content and advice put in lay man's terms is nothing short of comprehensively brilliant! Thanks for taking the time to put this (and your other) videos together 👍🏻
I'm a DIYer and have the Control Pro 170. I absolutely love the Wagner products and painting is very quick. Like you... the prep work and cleanup is what takes the longest. Im far from being a pro, but my finished work is a direct result of the sprayer that lays down such a perfect pattern every time. Thanks for making the video that gave me a few more tips/tricks to use next time i have a small project. 🔥🔥🔥
I can't really express how valuable this video is for complete noobs like me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Please make a video on how to properly prep a room for painting as well.
Hello Afraz, I'm so sorry it's taken so long to get back to you. I'm glad that you found the video useful and I'll make that video that you've requested as soon as we next need to prep a room for painting. Sorry again!
Probably the best and informative video I have seen so far on using a Wagner! I am self building and have used a Pro 250 but have over sprayed so have needed to sand it back to hide my mistakes. I will use your tips this weekend to hopefully get the finish I am after. Keep up the videos as they are much appreciated!
Thanks mate. A really comprehensive & understandable walk through guide to this type of spraying . Exactly what Ive been searching for.... I've bought a Wagner 250m but the process is pretty much the same. You've increased my confidence 100%. Btw, you're very good at this step by step teaching lark & your lad is a top cameraman too! Well done & many thanks again for a great vid. Leno👍👍👍👍👍
Hello Leno, hope you're well mate. Thank you for that comment, it's great to hear that you got something out of it and that you found it useful. Stick with the spraying, it's a great way to do things. All the best mate.
I’m a DIYer and love my Wagner 250. I’ve added a whip hose (less stress on the wrist), nozzle extension (access to Victorian ceilings) and another tip holder (Trade Tip 2) which means I can attempt to use water based under coat and gloss using a fine finish tip. Cleaning wise, I salvage as much paint from the pump and hose into the paint tin then I do exactly the same as you, one clean water bucket, one for dirty or if I can, take the whole lot outside, clean bucket under outside tap, return pipe and gun pointing down the gully and keep going until it all runs clear. I also strip down the gun and give everything a good clean. It is well worth adding some oil to the pump (instructions in the manual) if you aren’t using the pump for a while as it gets expensive replacing the inlet and outlet valves if the get gummed up…DAMHIK! 😂 The London Craftsman has a great series on airless spraying.
Thanks for the brilliant review. I bought this model based on your video, and it hasn't let me down. You can do 1 coat, in an average size bedroom, ceilings and walls, in about 7 mins. I'm renovating an older house we bought, so works it perfect, as we've stripped it back to the walls, and we've no doors or floors in yet, so there is little we need to protect from the paint. If you just want to paint a room, that has carpets, wardrobes etc, it's probably not the way to go, as you'd be as long masking and covering, as you would be painting the room with a roller! Thanks again.
No worries Ian, glad you found it useful! It's a great way of doing things isn't it. Especially for builders/projects like the one you're doing where you can decorate while keeping masking to a minimum. All the best mate, take care.
This has to be the go to video guide for the Wagner sprayer. I watched this as part of the research into searching for an airless sprayer. I took the plunge and bought the model featured here and I had this playing whilst I was setting up for its first use. Excellent bit of kit, the finish is superb. I did find that it’s easy to over spray so kept the dial low down to number 1 in use.
Nice one! Thank you Johnathan. It's always great to hear when someone gets something out of our videos! You won't regret your purchase! Take care mate and thank you.
As a professional painted of 50 years or more I have one of these machines and your video is one of the best around especially for the initial set up of machine
Thank you, Bill. Really appreciate that mate. They can be a bit fiddly to set up and the instructions aren't great so I thought I'd try and help. Thanks again, all the best.
Oh mate you're a life saviour. I was already having a nervous breakdown just to spent all that time put coat after coat around the whole house using brush and roller. Will definitely get hold of one alright Wagner. Thanks and have a good week!
That's great, T. It's always ace when someone gets something out of our videos. Hope everything goes well for you. Any issues let me know and I'll try my best to help. Take care mate.
Been spraying for years in 🇬🇧 key piece of advice when spraying a mist coat, back roll it and work it into the plaster or it just sits on top 😂 then prep your walls properly and apply a spray finish. ALWAYS backroll mist coats on new plaster and boards
Hello Jeff. I can't say that I agree with the backrolling at all. Why a liquid being put on an extremely absorbent surface would need pushing into it is a strange concept. Unless your plasterer gives a polished, glass like finish which will always give you problems when it comes to painting. Add to that the fact that the paint on bare plaster dries almost instantaneously backrolling will be almost pointless in my opinion.
@@mrabuilders6723 just from years of experience spraying and decorating professionally. Depending on temperature and conditions of the build if the mist coat is sprayed and not worked in sometimes it can sit on the top and get sanded straight off or even peel. Colder temperatures over night seem to cause it more often. The big prep after a poorly applied mist coat normally knocks the majority of it off and has to be mist coated again. We use mirka Leros’ and deros on the walls so it has to be properly worked into the plaster. If you do any professional spray courses it’s heavily advised on new plaster and plaster board. It doesn’t take long to do just to cover your arse when you do as many paint jobs as me. A lot of these fly by decorators buy a gracos spray and pray. Get paid and clear off. They’re not interested in the long term Ive had the same customers for nearly 20 years 🤣
Great video, very informative. On a personal note I immediately give it a light roller on the final third coat. Just makes a better finish when you need to touch up marks a few years down the line.
Just wanted to add a few months in this machine has made its money x times over and I've just purchased the xvlp 3500 for trim etc. Your initial tips are second nature now thanks very much you're doing a great service
Thanks for this great how to, you got me to buy one. I’m building my own house as we speak so I got allot to paint in the near future. Can’t wait to test it out until then I will watch your video to get comfortable when i’m up to it! Thanks again!
Really really good video, can’t stress that enough! Well done! Goes through absolutely everything you need and all the tips to help newbies like me have everything there ready! About to buy one to paint a full new build house so hope I find it as easy as you make it look! Would be great if you could do a video on painting architrave and skirting and that process and also the masking and taping 👍🏼
Hello James, hope you're well. Thank you for your comment, it's great to hear that you've gotten something out of it. Next time I use mine I'll do a little video on the skirting, architrave and masking, that's a great idea. Thanks again and good luck with your spraying, let me know how you get on and if you have any questions just ask. Have a great day.
Fav video. Wish i had come across a video as good as this when i bought mine. Bought as a bit of an impulse buy a few years ago but some of the things you have pointed out had to be learned the hard way 😢 Think I'll rewatch your video as a refresher before my next diy paint job. Thanks!
Wish I’d found this yesterday! So simple when you know how, managed after 4 hours of hit and miss to work things out but would have been up and running in 20 mins if I’d seen this video! 🙏
I'm doing it like this: mist the whole thing, do my fill and caulk, walls and wood, knotting etc, white contract matt on the ceiling, do all the woodwork over sprayed slightly to the plaster with zinsser primer, 2 coats of armstead quick dry satin. Then mask the edge of the ceiling and all the woodwork and dobthe walls in armstead vinyl matt with a dulux colour in it (illegal mix). One thing I will say with this method is watch how much satin goes on the wall, especially round window board horns for example. The vinyl matt will hang around on the satin and can run.
Well done mate.. a good thorough demonstration.. just bought the same sprayer cause I have heaps of private Reno's I'm doing and did my first job flawlessly cause of you directions... much appreciated 🙏
Great video. Another tip for cleaning is put the suction pipe in clean water and the recirculating pipe in an empty bucket. That way you’re not circulating dirty water and you run the cleaning until the water is clear.
I have had the 350M for a couple of years now and find it great for doing an empty property especially if the customer intends changing the carpets as I leave the old ones down as dust sheets. However for some reason when I do the ceilings I still,end up like a snow man and not as clean as you appear. Enjoyed the video.
Thank you mate, best instructions, I just bought one and has very poor user manuals . I think spray paint Machine should pay you for this demonstration real time , Thank you so much
Great video. Clear and concise. Covers nearly everything I wanted to know. I’ll be mainly using it for exterior masonry paint, but I’ve seen that it’s more than meets my requirements. Big thumbs up from me.
Excellent video! Thank you for going step by step and explaining the whole process. Ive just sprayed my first 10l of dulux paint and must admit that this machine is brilliant. Thanks to your video all went smoothly. Good luck with your projects! 😊
@@tarantulajack3277 Yes, I've added some water. As far as I remember it was 10% but check what it says on the paint bucket as I can't remember exactly.
Great content, so many variations on spraying, I have a Wagner and spray my first coat dulux 10L water down 50/50 and setting 2 , definitely worth the money.
I am looking to buy a paint sprayer; I watch a ton of building etc videos, yours is head and shouldersabove the majority, great video and information. Very thorough 👍👍
Thanks this is thorough advice. Just bought the same machine to get into spraying and the setup and technique is daunting at first. I feel much more confident after watching you 👍
Just wanted to add a few months in this machine has made its money x times over and I've just purchased the xvlp 3500 for trim etc. Your initial tips are second nature now thanks very much you're doing a great service
Ive just brought the wagner 250m for spraying kitchens and wish id have watched this video first. Ive got through 2 10L tins of paint and a lot of paint all over my carport trying to figure out how it works as the instructions were not as straightforward as i thought. Specially with priming and spraying.
Hello, glad you found our video useful, albeit a little late for you. Stick with it because when you get it going and you've practiced you'll realise that it's a great machine and method and you won't look back.
I’ve had the same machine for over a year and this is an excellent overview of how to best use it, thank you for posting. There are a couple of points I’d like to share: Firstly, the hose is 15m long and is ¼” bore. I found it a bit cumbersome to work with in e.g. stairwells so I bought a 7.5m long 3/16” bore hose which I’d seen people using. It wouldn’t connect to either the machine or the gun. Eventually I spoke to Wagner who confirmed that the threaded ends of their hose are unique to Wagner, so you can only use the Wagner hose. The good news is that the thread on the gun tip end is universal so you can use e.g. Graco extensions and tips, etc. which is useful if you have a high ceiling. Secondly, I glanced through the comments and couldn’t see anyone had posted about the order of painting a room. So for any beginners, the best order is to spray the skirting, architraves etc. on day one (hitting the wall as well); On day two, mask off the skirting, etc. with 12” paper and spray the wall colour (hitting the ceiling) and damask skirting when wet; On day three, mask off the walls using delicate tape and 2.7m film to cover the skirting and doorways and spray the ceilings. Remove the wall masking when the ceiling is still wet for “the great unveil”! Clients are thrilled with the results. With best wishes, Rob
It was a great educational video. If we apply 2 coats of paint for a 50 square meter room, how many liters of paint will be consumed? Also, when you paint, how many liters of water do you use for how many liters of paint? I think this information is missing. If you learn these, I will become a master :)
What a great, informative video, very well explained, and in every detail, thanks very much for the lesson, my wagner is ordered, not the pro version but the theory should be very similar i guess.
That was a top notch informative step by step video on how to set up and operate a irless sprayer. funny enough ive got a big project coming on soon and was wondering bout buying one - then your video came up. definately going to shop around for one of the pro 350's. are you going to do a video for the sprayer using gloss paint soon? got some wardrobes i want to upcycle from dark mahogany to a lighter colour. Thanks for doing these videos they are really helpful
You bloody legend! ...great tutorial, thanks. Q? If youve got a mo.... how long would you leave paint in the machine? ie for 2nd coat etc, next day ok? I also need to paint 11 timber interior doors with bin 123 primer (1hr dry) then topcoat, would you just switch paint tin cans and run it through...without cleaning etc or would the paint dry too much inside?? In your experience. Hope that makes sense 😅 thanks 👍😉
Hello Kevin, hope you're well mate. I wouldn't personally leave paint in the machine overnight but I'll leave it in there all day, meaning that I'll do a coat first thing, leave it for X amount of hours then go again. I'd definitely clean between different paints though, just to save any disasters! Hope that helps? Thank you for watching.
This is apparently a consumer product not for professional painters. Do you think that's correct? The pro item has higher pressure. Thanks for the video, very informative. 👍
Sorry that I couldn't really answer your question in detail, it's just that I don't know what the difference is between this model and higher ones! Sorry!
I Just somehow managed to buy a Wagner 250M second hand for £80! Seems to work but I will strip and clean it properly. Any tips about servicing it in more detail would be appreciated. It looks like it would ideally need a new hose too.
No, not really mate. But there is some. The only reason that I didn't cover the floor is because the carpet wasn't down yet. If it was then everything would have to be covered. Thank you for watching.
Thank you for nice snd clear explanation !! 👏👏. Questiion: if I have to spray in the morning and in the evening few days ,, like painting furniture in workshop. it still should be cleaned each time or I could put the gun in buket of water ? Thank you very much
@@mrabuilders6723 the coats shoud be redine at minimum.6 hours between... so nit sure if I have to clean or not if I ll leave the gun full in water. Thank you
Are you still satisfied with this machine? Another question: do you need to rinse the machine between two coats if the time required is about 4 hours? Many thanks for the review!
Hello Phil, apologies for the late reply. I'm very much still satisfied with it mate. I used it twice today, once this morning and again this afternoon, 7 hours apart. Didn't even have to re-prime it. After the first coat I just left it and picked it back up this afternoon and gave the room its second coat! Perfect!
I have a Wagner 350M and will never go back to roller/brush. Be careful with your technique though - starting and stopping the spray gun when its stationery, like you did when you were spraying around the junction boxes, makes it much more likely that banding can form.
Good piece of advice! I noticed that when I primed the walls. I let the thing run for too long, my mistake. I had to sand it off to smoothen off the bit of overpainting. Top coats solve it any over spray from the priming.
Great video. When your cleaning it, any reason why you dont put the prime return into a separate bucket to the clean water so you know its clean running through the whole system, and waste goes into the separate bucket?
Hello Tony, hope you're well mate. Great question and you certainly could do that but it just means more water, more time, more faff. Being that it's emulsion (obviously water based) then doing the method that is shown here will clean the pump, that I promise! Thanks again, take care.
Great video! I wasn't too sure what you meant about the skirting. Did you fully finish the skirting before you starting spray painting the room or will you finish it after. I am redecorating a new house we have bought that has been stripped and had a rewire so we have new areas plastered mixed with old walls. Any recommendations?
Hello mate. Sorry that I wasn't clear. I fully finished the skirting and architrave before I sprayed the room. Thank you for watching mate. Hope you're well.
You do need to spend a bit on disposable stuff, but it's worth It mate. I add 10% to the paint that I use which is the same as the stuff I use in the video. Cheers mate, good luck.
Thanks for the video, it gives newbies a lot of information, it is also an opportunity to compare experiences between users, given the lack of even a support community. I have a 350m, but the paint (professional not ready to use) I dilute it according to the manufacturer's instructions, You have diluted to 10%, is it your choice based on your experience? oppore is an indication of the manufacturer (please note that comment from Europe). Does the amount of paint used reflect the manufacturer's yield values sufficiently with the pressure and nozzle used? Also try with a 515 diluting a little more and lowering the pressure, in doing so I got a better finish with some paints. Also for the ceilings use the 619, wider beam and a little more paint ... For cleaning, before even using the water (preferably warm) do the "prime" then to empty the hose of the gun almost completely, without further diluting the paint, lift Suction - returt hose from the paint, put the machine in mode spray, and I recommend .. keeping the trigger pressed (before turning on the pump) activates the pump. You will get that the hose of the gun will empty quite a lot without further adding water to the paint (given the raised floats) that you can keep for retouching and future needs. After this phase resume standard cleaning in "prime" mode. I also clean the outside of the machine and hose in addition to the gun. The Flexio 690 I have always used (more than 5 years) is extremely comfortable for small and medium jobs. Hello and thanks
Hello Ampro, thank you for your comment and tips. I really appreciate it. I diluted by 10% because of a UA-cam video from Skillbuilder where they went to the Leyland factory and spoke to their expert who said to dilute by no more than 10%, so I took that on board, tried it and it worked a treat. Funnily enough I was thinking about a wider tip for the ceilings, I own one too and don't know why I didn't use it as it makes perfect sense. Just below max pressure in this machine always seems to have the best result regardless of what paint I've used but will definitely try what you've suggested with the 515. Are you based in the UK?
@@mrabuilders6723 Hello, thanks for appreciating the comment. I state that I am not a professional. With regard to dilution, this must be evaluated on the basis of the viscosity of the paint. For this reason I prefer paint manufacturers who indicate a range of nozzles and pressure. I am currently using a washable water-based paint that must be diluted to 30-40%, as per the technical data sheet which indicates a nozzle starting from 515. So I got good results with a not excessive consumption of paint, but in reality I don't think there is a value single standard. It seems to me that 10% is a bit low for a professional paint that is not diluted like those in DIY stores. In my very little experience, I am in Italy.
Hello Owen, hope you're well. By all means you can do a 50/50 mix if you like, I honestly can't see any issues, but that goes against the manufacturers recommendations for this particular paint, so I've stuck to their rules of 10% just to be on the safe side. Hope that helps, take care.
Hello Jane, hope you're well. Thank you for your comment and glad you found the video useful. There wasn't much overspray at all, if there was you'd be able to see it in the air on the video but you must wear a proper mask. You'll probably find that you'll have to seal the room because if the masking off of the windows. Hope this helps? Thanks again.
Thank you so much for the video I got the Wagner 350m today I had trouble with it at the start it wouldn’t stay primed but now it does but only for a room or so or if left unused for a minute it loses prime and I have to keep re priming it for it to spray would you have any advice or experience with this please? Wouldn’t have been able to use it with out this video thanks again!
Hello Louis, hope you're well mate. If it's losing pressure then there's an air leak somewhere, simple as that and it's no surprise if it's brand new. Start at the pump and nip up every connection and always make sure that both the suction tube and the discharge tube are always fully submerged in the paint at all times. Give all that a go and let me know how you get on. Best of luck mate.
Hi, Apologies if i have missed something in the video. Is there no need to do a mist coat? did you just go over the room twice with the same paint mix?
Hello Ben. It's mentioned in the video that the paint is watered down by 10% as per the manufacturers recommendations, so that's the mist coat. I then went over it again with the same amount of dilution. Hope that helps. Thank you for watching.
Hello Jorden, hope you're well. Yes mate, you can. You'll be in for a lengthy cleaning process if you're using oil based paints but this machine will take any paint that's not textured. Hope that helps mate.
If you use white paint then clean as you suggest, could you use a colour emulsion, clean then use white again with no problems? Or should you just use white?
Hello mate, you can use whatever colours you want, whenever you want to providing that you clean it thoroughly between each colour. You won't have a problem.
Really nice how2video, but, why you didn't mask the wires coming out of the electrical outlets, now they are all white instead of brown, blue and yellow/green.
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I've watched a dozen or more airless spraying videos in the last few days. Yours is head and shoulders above averything else. many thanks for taking the time to explain the whole process in such great detail. 👌
That's a very nice thing to say, Johnathan. Thank you very much! If I can be of any further help please let me know. Thanks again, take care.
@@mrabuilders6723 Never used a sprayer but is 10% enough water to seal new plaster?
Hello @geoffmcmahon4453 hope you're well. I've only ever diluted any more than 10% and I've never had a problem. That being said I've only ever used Leyland paint.
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After watching you're video on the Wagner 350m I have just completed my 1st ever spraying project on a 300m² storage unit! Without you're video I would've been completely goosed!
The detailed content and advice put in lay man's terms is nothing short of comprehensively brilliant! Thanks for taking the time to put this (and your other) videos together 👍🏻
Haha! That's ace! Nice one mate! Glad it all went well! Did you already have the machine or did you buy it off the back of this video?
Great feedback, glad your project went well, mate.
I'm a DIYer and have the Control Pro 170. I absolutely love the Wagner products and painting is very quick.
Like you... the prep work and cleanup is what takes the longest. Im far from being a pro, but my finished work is a direct result of the sprayer that lays down such a perfect pattern every time.
Thanks for making the video that gave me a few more tips/tricks to use next time i have a small project. 🔥🔥🔥
No worries! Thank you for watching.
I can't really express how valuable this video is for complete noobs like me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Please make a video on how to properly prep a room for painting as well.
Hello Afraz, I'm so sorry it's taken so long to get back to you. I'm glad that you found the video useful and I'll make that video that you've requested as soon as we next need to prep a room for painting. Sorry again!
Probably the best and informative video I have seen so far on using a Wagner! I am self building and have used a Pro 250 but have over sprayed so have needed to sand it back to hide my mistakes. I will use your tips this weekend to hopefully get the finish I am after. Keep up the videos as they are much appreciated!
Thank you for that mate, it's always good to hear that someone has found something in our videos useful. Good luck with everything, take care.
Thanks mate. A really comprehensive & understandable walk through guide to this type of spraying . Exactly what Ive been searching for.... I've bought a Wagner 250m but the process is pretty much the same. You've increased my confidence 100%.
Btw, you're very good at this step by step teaching lark & your lad is a top cameraman too!
Well done & many thanks again for a great vid.
Leno👍👍👍👍👍
Hello Leno, hope you're well mate. Thank you for that comment, it's great to hear that you got something out of it and that you found it useful. Stick with the spraying, it's a great way to do things. All the best mate.
I’m a DIYer and love my Wagner 250. I’ve added a whip hose (less stress on the wrist), nozzle extension (access to Victorian ceilings) and another tip holder (Trade Tip 2) which means I can attempt to use water based under coat and gloss using a fine finish tip. Cleaning wise, I salvage as much paint from the pump and hose into the paint tin then I do exactly the same as you, one clean water bucket, one for dirty or if I can, take the whole lot outside, clean bucket under outside tap, return pipe and gun pointing down the gully and keep going until it all runs clear. I also strip down the gun and give everything a good clean. It is well worth adding some oil to the pump (instructions in the manual) if you aren’t using the pump for a while as it gets expensive replacing the inlet and outlet valves if the get gummed up…DAMHIK! 😂 The London Craftsman has a great series on airless spraying.
Excellent! Cheers mate.
Thanks for the brilliant review.
I bought this model based on your video, and it hasn't let me down.
You can do 1 coat, in an average size bedroom, ceilings and walls, in about 7 mins.
I'm renovating an older house we bought, so works it perfect, as we've stripped it back to the walls, and we've no doors or floors in yet, so there is little we need to protect from the paint.
If you just want to paint a room, that has carpets, wardrobes etc, it's probably not the way to go, as you'd be as long masking and covering, as you would be painting the room with a roller!
Thanks again.
No worries Ian, glad you found it useful! It's a great way of doing things isn't it. Especially for builders/projects like the one you're doing where you can decorate while keeping masking to a minimum. All the best mate, take care.
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This has to be the go to video guide for the Wagner sprayer. I watched this as part of the research into searching for an airless sprayer. I took the plunge and bought the model featured here and I had this playing whilst I was setting up for its first use. Excellent bit of kit, the finish is superb. I did find that it’s easy to over spray so kept the dial low down to number 1 in use.
Nice one! Thank you Johnathan. It's always great to hear when someone gets something out of our videos! You won't regret your purchase! Take care mate and thank you.
As a professional painted of 50 years or more I have one of these machines and your video is one of the best around especially for the initial set up of machine
Thank you, Bill. Really appreciate that mate. They can be a bit fiddly to set up and the instructions aren't great so I thought I'd try and help. Thanks again, all the best.
Brilliant. 25 minutes! I'm a new-build developer. Doing this myself will really give me more control of time and profits.
Mate that was bloody awesome...I unboxed it today and had no idea...I do now so thank you
No worries at all mate, glad you found the video useful! Out of interest, did you buy the machine off the back of the video?
Oh mate you're a life saviour. I was already having a nervous breakdown just to spent all that time put coat after coat around the whole house using brush and roller. Will definitely get hold of one alright Wagner. Thanks and have a good week!
That's great, T. It's always ace when someone gets something out of our videos. Hope everything goes well for you. Any issues let me know and I'll try my best to help. Take care mate.
Been spraying for years in 🇬🇧 key piece of advice when spraying a mist coat, back roll it and work it into the plaster or it just sits on top 😂 then prep your walls properly and apply a spray finish.
ALWAYS backroll mist coats on new plaster and boards
Hello Jeff. I can't say that I agree with the backrolling at all. Why a liquid being put on an extremely absorbent surface would need pushing into it is a strange concept. Unless your plasterer gives a polished, glass like finish which will always give you problems when it comes to painting. Add to that the fact that the paint on bare plaster dries almost instantaneously backrolling will be almost pointless in my opinion.
@@mrabuilders6723 just from years of experience spraying and decorating professionally. Depending on temperature and conditions of the build if the mist coat is sprayed and not worked in sometimes it can sit on the top and get sanded straight off or even peel. Colder temperatures over night seem to cause it more often.
The big prep after a poorly applied mist coat normally knocks the majority of it off and has to be mist coated again. We use mirka Leros’ and deros on the walls so it has to be properly worked into the plaster. If you do any professional spray courses it’s heavily advised on new plaster and plaster board.
It doesn’t take long to do just to cover your arse when you do as many paint jobs as me. A lot of these fly by decorators buy a gracos spray and pray. Get paid and clear off. They’re not interested in the long term Ive had the same customers for nearly 20 years 🤣
Great video, very informative. On a personal note I immediately give it a light roller on the final third coat. Just makes a better finish when you need to touch up marks a few years down the line.
Just wanted to add a few months in this machine has made its money x times over and I've just purchased the xvlp 3500 for trim etc. Your initial tips are second nature now thanks very much you're doing a great service
I just want to say thanks. Without this video I'd of been trying for ages to get this working and cleaned up properly..... Amazing video!!
Hello David, hope you're well. That's great to hear! Glad you enjoyed it and found it useful. All the best for the new year.
Thanks for this great how to, you got me to buy one. I’m building my own house as we speak so I got allot to paint in the near future. Can’t wait to test it out until then I will watch your video to get comfortable when i’m up to it! Thanks again!
Thanks a lot! Watched it a few times and know I am convinced I am prepared enough to start the job. Essential video 👍🏻
No worries at all! Hope it all goes well, take care.
Really really good video, can’t stress that enough! Well done! Goes through absolutely everything you need and all the tips to help newbies like me have everything there ready! About to buy one to paint a full new build house so hope I find it as easy as you make it look! Would be great if you could do a video on painting architrave and skirting and that process and also the masking and taping 👍🏼
Hello James, hope you're well. Thank you for your comment, it's great to hear that you've gotten something out of it. Next time I use mine I'll do a little video on the skirting, architrave and masking, that's a great idea. Thanks again and good luck with your spraying, let me know how you get on and if you have any questions just ask. Have a great day.
Fav video. Wish i had come across a video as good as this when i bought mine. Bought as a bit of an impulse buy a few years ago but some of the things you have pointed out had to be learned the hard way 😢 Think I'll rewatch your video as a refresher before my next diy paint job. Thanks!
Best video for wagner beginners ln UA-cam. Thanks
Wish I’d found this yesterday! So simple when you know how, managed after 4 hours of hit and miss to work things out but would have been up and running in 20 mins if I’d seen this video! 🙏
Glad you found it and it was useful to you! Good luck with everything!
Awesome, no BS, real world pro user. Thank you, who needs the manual!! 💪🏻🤛🏻
Cheers fella, appreciate that mate! Take care.
I'm doing it like this: mist the whole thing, do my fill and caulk, walls and wood, knotting etc, white contract matt on the ceiling, do all the woodwork over sprayed slightly to the plaster with zinsser primer, 2 coats of armstead quick dry satin. Then mask the edge of the ceiling and all the woodwork and dobthe walls in armstead vinyl matt with a dulux colour in it (illegal mix). One thing I will say with this method is watch how much satin goes on the wall, especially round window board horns for example. The vinyl matt will hang around on the satin and can run.
Wagner should use this video as their own…! This is straight forward no bull#### advice which is based on experience. Top vid
Cheers Jumbo! Take care mate, all the best.
Just sprayed my 1st room.Great informative video……practicing on my own house 1st…The finish that you can achieve is high quality,thanks again ..Gaz🤝
No problem at all, Gaz! Fair play for giving it ago! Good luck, take care.
Way more useful instruction than the Wagner videos. Thanks
No worries. Thank you for watching.
Good Morning. This was Great. I just used the sprayer and found I made a few mistakes. Your Guided for Beginners was very helpful Jack
Hello Jack, glad you found it useful mate. Appreciate the comment, all the best!
Well done mate.. a good thorough demonstration.. just bought the same sprayer cause I have heaps of private Reno's I'm doing and did my first job flawlessly cause of you directions... much appreciated 🙏
Nice one mate! Glad you found it useful! Good luck with everything, take care.
Great video. Another tip for cleaning is put the suction pipe in clean water and the recirculating pipe in an empty bucket. That way you’re not circulating dirty water and you run the cleaning until the water is clear.
Great vid mate you are a natural at teaching. You hit the important points
Appreciate that mate! Glad you enjoyed it!
Absolutely brilliant video. Thanks for the detailed explanation! 👏🏻
No worries at all! Glad you found it useful!
I have had the 350M for a couple of years now and find it great for doing an empty property especially if the customer intends changing the carpets as I leave the old ones down as dust sheets. However for some reason when I do the ceilings I still,end up like a snow man and not as clean as you appear.
Enjoyed the video.
Thank you mate, best instructions,
I just bought one and has very poor user manuals .
I think spray paint Machine should pay you for this demonstration real time , Thank you so much
Wanger Control Pro, too funny!
Great video Adam, I’ve got nothing to paint but you’ve made me want one!
Haha! Just get one, they're ace!!!
Great video. Clear and concise. Covers nearly everything I wanted to know. I’ll be mainly using it for exterior masonry paint, but I’ve seen that it’s more than meets my requirements. Big thumbs up from me.
Nice one, mate! Good luck with everything, just remember that you can't use textured paint with it. All the best.
@@mrabuilders6723 cheers. Yes just a smooth masonry paint, although I’ve also ordered an extra tip and some extra white filters just in case! Ta
Excellent video! Thank you for going step by step and explaining the whole process. Ive just sprayed my first 10l of dulux paint and must admit that this machine is brilliant. Thanks to your video all went smoothly. Good luck with your projects! 😊
No worries at all! Glad you found it useful and that it's all going well for you, thank you for watching, take care.
Hey @MrDomelS - with the dulux did you have to water down? I have just ordered one of these machines
@@tarantulajack3277 Yes, I've added some water. As far as I remember it was 10% but check what it says on the paint bucket as I can't remember exactly.
Thanks very much buddy, appreciated 👍
Great content, so many variations on spraying, I have a Wagner and spray my first coat dulux 10L water down 50/50 and setting 2 , definitely worth the money.
Thank you, Buck. They are great machines aren't they, well worth it.
Hello. Iv just watched a great work well 😊
I have watched a great video thanks
First class video, thanks for taking the time to do and upload.
No worries, James. Thank you for watching, glad you found it useful. All the best.
I am looking to buy a paint sprayer; I watch a ton of building etc videos, yours is head and shouldersabove the majority, great video and information. Very thorough 👍👍
Cheers Gary, appreciate that mate. You won't be disappointed if you buy one of these. Any issues get in touch mate, good luck!
Ace Video, I can now use it with confidence. Thanks for sharing buddy!
No worries at all! Good luck!
Excellent video - the best I’ve seen to explain how the machine works. Great work 👍
Thank you Muhammed, appreciate that mate. Hope you're well.
Very good video, amazing work and excellent video work by Ryan too! Thank you
Cheers mate! He was ace wasn't he! Hope you're well, take care.
Thank you for your video. I have learned so much from your presentation. And your explanations have help me to understand the process.
No worries Henry, good look with everything. Thank you for watching.
This is a fantastic video! Thank you so much. I feel much more confident after watching it than reading the instructions. Thank you - top job!
Really helpful being using with mix results and can now see why. Have a very large extension to paint and feel I’ll crack on
Stick with it Alex, once you get the hang of it that extension will be a breeze! Thank you for watching mate, have a great weekend.
Great video mate.
These machines can now be bought for £490 incl vat, just shows the astronomical markup that amazon sellers was making on them.
Well there you go! What a bargain! Cheers mate.
@@mrabuilders6723 Yeah good price and your review was great, makes it an easy purchase👍
Thanks this is thorough advice. Just bought the same machine to get into spraying and the setup and technique is daunting at first. I feel much more confident after watching you 👍
Nice one, Tom. Fair play for giving it a go, you won't be sorry! Good luck!
Just wanted to add a few months in this machine has made its money x times over and I've just purchased the xvlp 3500 for trim etc. Your initial tips are second nature now thanks very much you're doing a great service
@tombarton7106 that's ace mate, nice one!
Thanks that helped I had forgotten how to use the machine ! The bay window is nice
Superb video very comprehensively done, what a great piece of kit.
As I painter I have the 250m amazing product do find it uses a lot more paint but worth it I use leyland contractor Matt 2 for 26 in Screwfix
It's a great piece of kit isn't it!
@@mrabuilders6723 people don’t understand how much time it saves I hate using a roller when I get it out lol
Haha! I feel your pain!
Quality content mate! Thank you so much :) Looking forward to doing my house this summer!
Cheers mate! Good luck with everything!
Love the amount of preparation you have done, great video
Thank you Sunit, hope you're well.
Great video , do you still water the 2nd down 90/10 or spray it on neat? Thanks
Perfekt detailed explanation. Thank you. Best of all seen Videos.
Ive just brought the wagner 250m for spraying kitchens and wish id have watched this video first. Ive got through 2 10L tins of paint and a lot of paint all over my carport trying to figure out how it works as the instructions were not as straightforward as i thought. Specially with priming and spraying.
Hello, glad you found our video useful, albeit a little late for you. Stick with it because when you get it going and you've practiced you'll realise that it's a great machine and method and you won't look back.
I’ve had the same machine for over a year and this is an excellent overview of how to best use it, thank you for posting.
There are a couple of points I’d like to share:
Firstly, the hose is 15m long and is ¼” bore. I found it a bit cumbersome to work with in e.g. stairwells so I bought a 7.5m long 3/16” bore hose which I’d seen people using. It wouldn’t connect to either the machine or the gun. Eventually I spoke to Wagner who confirmed that the threaded ends of their hose are unique to Wagner, so you can only use the Wagner hose. The good news is that the thread on the gun tip end is universal so you can use e.g. Graco extensions and tips, etc. which is useful if you have a high ceiling.
Secondly, I glanced through the comments and couldn’t see anyone had posted about the order of painting a room. So for any beginners, the best order is to spray the skirting, architraves etc. on day one (hitting the wall as well); On day two, mask off the skirting, etc. with 12” paper and spray the wall colour (hitting the ceiling) and damask skirting when wet; On day three, mask off the walls using delicate tape and 2.7m film to cover the skirting and doorways and spray the ceilings. Remove the wall masking when the ceiling is still wet for “the great unveil”!
Clients are thrilled with the results.
With best wishes, Rob
There's some great advice there, Rob. Thank you for taking the time to share them. Hope you're well, all the best.
It was a great educational video. If we apply 2 coats of paint for a 50 square meter room, how many liters of paint will be consumed? Also, when you paint, how many liters of water do you use for how many liters of paint? I think this information is missing. If you learn these, I will become a master :)
What a great, informative video, very well explained, and in every detail, thanks very much for the lesson, my wagner is ordered, not the pro version but the theory should be very similar i guess.
Cheers mate! Glad you found it useful! Yes, I'm sure they are similar, good luck with everything!
Fantastic video, very informative, exactly what I needed. Thank you very much 👍
Thankyou for this very clear video you made 🙏🏼
No worries at all, Melanie, glad you found it useful.
That was a top notch informative step by step video on how to set up and operate a irless sprayer.
funny enough ive got a big project coming on soon and was wondering bout buying one - then your video came up. definately going to shop around for one of the pro 350's. are you going to do a video for the sprayer using gloss paint soon? got some wardrobes i want to upcycle from dark mahogany to a lighter colour.
Thanks for doing these videos they are really helpful
Thank you! Glad you got something from it! I'll do a glossing one but with the other machine I think...watch this space! Thank you for watching!
Great … I’ve sent photos 🥴 Any advice would be most welcome 🤣 The video is outstanding by the way … so clear 👏
You are always so helpful. Was wondering why you key was on the side instead on top when you were showing all the steps.
Hello Sue, hope you're well. Sorry but I'm not sure what you mean?
The green key was on top and another person had it on the side. Just wondering why they would have it on the side
Great informative video..Glad I purchased a 350 R
You bloody legend! ...great tutorial, thanks.
Q? If youve got a mo.... how long would you leave paint in the machine? ie for 2nd coat etc, next day ok?
I also need to paint 11 timber interior doors with bin 123 primer (1hr dry) then topcoat, would you just switch paint tin cans and run it through...without cleaning etc or would the paint dry too much inside?? In your experience.
Hope that makes sense 😅 thanks 👍😉
Hello Kevin, hope you're well mate. I wouldn't personally leave paint in the machine overnight but I'll leave it in there all day, meaning that I'll do a coat first thing, leave it for X amount of hours then go again. I'd definitely clean between different paints though, just to save any disasters! Hope that helps? Thank you for watching.
great video
Cheers mate! Hope you're well.
Great info/machine tips… THX!
No worries! Sorry for the late reply!
Brilliant video - thank you Sir
No worries at all. Hope you found it useful.
This is apparently a consumer product not for professional painters. Do you think that's correct? The pro item has higher pressure. Thanks for the video, very informative. 👍
No problem at all! All I can say is that it's a great piece of kit and gives a great finish.
@@mrabuilders6723 Thanks!
Sorry that I couldn't really answer your question in detail, it's just that I don't know what the difference is between this model and higher ones! Sorry!
will done, and many thanks for all your info
I Just somehow managed to buy a Wagner 250M second hand for £80! Seems to work but I will strip and clean it properly. Any tips about servicing it in more detail would be appreciated. It looks like it would ideally need a new hose too.
Another great video, thanks.
Do you need to sand the wall between ?
Excellent informative video 👏
Cheers Mark. Hope you're well mate.
Is there much settlement on the floor as you are not sheeted up etc.
No, not really mate. But there is some. The only reason that I didn't cover the floor is because the carpet wasn't down yet. If it was then everything would have to be covered. Thank you for watching.
Thank you for nice snd clear explanation !! 👏👏. Questiion: if I have to spray in the morning and in the evening few days ,, like painting furniture in workshop. it still should be cleaned each time or I could put the gun in buket of water ? Thank you very much
No worries! I would personally clean it at the end of every day but not between coats, if that makes sense?
@@mrabuilders6723 the coats shoud be redine at minimum.6 hours between... so nit sure if I have to clean or not if I ll leave the gun full in water. Thank you
@ionutonea1537 you won't have to leave the gun in water, it's air tight so there will be no need.
Great tutorial video, thanks 🙏
No worries Alan.take care mate.
Are you still satisfied with this machine? Another question: do you need to rinse the machine between two coats if the time required is about 4 hours? Many thanks for the review!
Hello Phil, apologies for the late reply. I'm very much still satisfied with it mate. I used it twice today, once this morning and again this afternoon, 7 hours apart. Didn't even have to re-prime it. After the first coat I just left it and picked it back up this afternoon and gave the room its second coat! Perfect!
@@mrabuilders6723 many thanks ! Sounds great.
I have a Wagner 350M and will never go back to roller/brush. Be careful with your technique though - starting and stopping the spray gun when its stationery, like you did when you were spraying around the junction boxes, makes it much more likely that banding can form.
Good piece of advice! I noticed that when I primed the walls. I let the thing run for too long, my mistake. I had to sand it off to smoothen off the bit of overpainting. Top coats solve it any over spray from the priming.
you reccomended diluting all emulsion for these mate? im using dulux trade vynil matt
Yes mate, I do. At least by 10%, more for the mist coat. Hope that helps mate.
Great video. When your cleaning it, any reason why you dont put the prime return into a separate bucket to the clean water so you know its clean running through the whole system, and waste goes into the separate bucket?
Hello Tony, hope you're well mate. Great question and you certainly could do that but it just means more water, more time, more faff. Being that it's emulsion (obviously water based) then doing the method that is shown here will clean the pump, that I promise! Thanks again, take care.
Great video! I wasn't too sure what you meant about the skirting. Did you fully finish the skirting before you starting spray painting the room or will you finish it after. I am redecorating a new house we have bought that has been stripped and had a rewire so we have new areas plastered mixed with old walls. Any recommendations?
Hello mate. Sorry that I wasn't clear. I fully finished the skirting and architrave before I sprayed the room. Thank you for watching mate. Hope you're well.
Cracking instructional vid, cheers👍
When do you need to change the filter?
Hello mate. Every couple of jobs I reckon, you'll notice that they start to get a bit tatty after a few uses.
Well explained!
Cheers man.
I’ve used it but got stripes! Think I was too close. How can I get rid of them?
Hello Catherine, our email is in our bio, if you'd like to send some pictures of the stripes I'll take a look and advise from there.
Not cheap this spraying lark, didn't realise how much extra's you need, how much water do you add to the paint?
You do need to spend a bit on disposable stuff, but it's worth It mate. I add 10% to the paint that I use which is the same as the stuff I use in the video. Cheers mate, good luck.
@@mrabuilders6723 whats best way to calculate you are adding 10% water, is there a bucket method etc?
Thanks for the video, it gives newbies a lot of information, it is also an opportunity to compare experiences between users, given the lack of even a support community.
I have a 350m, but the paint (professional not ready to use) I dilute it according to the manufacturer's instructions, You have diluted to 10%, is it your choice based on your experience? oppore is an indication of the manufacturer (please note that comment from Europe).
Does the amount of paint used reflect the manufacturer's yield values sufficiently with the pressure and nozzle used?
Also try with a 515 diluting a little more and lowering the pressure, in doing so I got a better finish with some paints. Also for the ceilings use the 619, wider beam and a little more paint ...
For cleaning, before even using the water (preferably warm) do the "prime" then to empty the hose of the gun almost completely, without further diluting the paint, lift Suction - returt hose from the paint, put the machine in mode spray, and I recommend .. keeping the trigger pressed (before turning on the pump) activates the pump. You will get that the hose of the gun will empty quite a lot without further adding water to the paint (given the raised floats) that you can keep for retouching and future needs. After this phase resume standard cleaning in "prime" mode. I also clean the outside of the machine and hose in addition to the gun.
The Flexio 690 I have always used (more than 5 years) is extremely comfortable for small and medium jobs.
Hello and thanks
Hello Ampro, thank you for your comment and tips. I really appreciate it. I diluted by 10% because of a UA-cam video from Skillbuilder where they went to the Leyland factory and spoke to their expert who said to dilute by no more than 10%, so I took that on board, tried it and it worked a treat. Funnily enough I was thinking about a wider tip for the ceilings, I own one too and don't know why I didn't use it as it makes perfect sense. Just below max pressure in this machine always seems to have the best result regardless of what paint I've used but will definitely try what you've suggested with the 515. Are you based in the UK?
@@mrabuilders6723 Hello, thanks for appreciating the comment. I state that I am not a professional. With regard to dilution, this must be evaluated on the basis of the viscosity of the paint. For this reason I prefer paint manufacturers who indicate a range of nozzles and pressure. I am currently using a washable water-based paint that must be diluted to 30-40%, as per the technical data sheet which indicates a nozzle starting from 515. So I got good results with a not excessive consumption of paint, but in reality I don't think there is a value single standard. It seems to me that 10% is a bit low for a professional paint that is not diluted like those in DIY stores. In my very little experience, I am in Italy.
Great video
Thank you
No worries at all, thank you for watching.
Very informative video. Perhaps I missed it, but do you not need to apply a mist coat first to fresh plaster ? Like a 50/50 mix with water ?
Hello Owen, hope you're well. By all means you can do a 50/50 mix if you like, I honestly can't see any issues, but that goes against the manufacturers recommendations for this particular paint, so I've stuck to their rules of 10% just to be on the safe side. Hope that helps, take care.
@@mrabuilders6723 Thanks very much for your speedy response, you live and you learn i guess.
No worries at all, take care.
Great video.was they much overspray.also is it best to seal the room all have a through-draught ?
Hello Jane, hope you're well. Thank you for your comment and glad you found the video useful. There wasn't much overspray at all, if there was you'd be able to see it in the air on the video but you must wear a proper mask. You'll probably find that you'll have to seal the room because if the masking off of the windows. Hope this helps? Thanks again.
Thank you so much for the video I got the Wagner 350m today I had trouble with it at the start it wouldn’t stay primed but now it does but only for a room or so or if left unused for a minute it loses prime and I have to keep re priming it for it to spray would you have any advice or experience with this please? Wouldn’t have been able to use it with out this video thanks again!
Hello Louis, hope you're well mate. If it's losing pressure then there's an air leak somewhere, simple as that and it's no surprise if it's brand new. Start at the pump and nip up every connection and always make sure that both the suction tube and the discharge tube are always fully submerged in the paint at all times. Give all that a go and let me know how you get on. Best of luck mate.
Hi, Apologies if i have missed something in the video. Is there no need to do a mist coat? did you just go over the room twice with the same paint mix?
Hello Ben. It's mentioned in the video that the paint is watered down by 10% as per the manufacturers recommendations, so that's the mist coat. I then went over it again with the same amount of dilution. Hope that helps. Thank you for watching.
Great video! Do you need to back roll to create the “texture”?
Thanks for the video. Can you use it for satinwood? Got a large house to fully redecorate.
Hello Jorden, hope you're well. Yes mate, you can. You'll be in for a lengthy cleaning process if you're using oil based paints but this machine will take any paint that's not textured. Hope that helps mate.
If you use white paint then clean as you suggest, could you use a colour emulsion, clean then use white again with no problems? Or should you just use white?
Hello mate, you can use whatever colours you want, whenever you want to providing that you clean it thoroughly between each colour. You won't have a problem.
Would you clean inbetween coats? How long would it be ok to leave the paint in the machine system? 2 to 3 hrs ok? For a cost to dry?
Thanks
same Technic for breeze blocks ?
Yes mate.
@@mrabuilders6723 thinking of buying one i have a whole house to do in and out
Really nice how2video, but, why you didn't mask the wires coming out of the electrical outlets, now they are all white instead of brown, blue and yellow/green.
Thank you Tom. I presume this isn't a serious question?
If you dont mind me asking "what would a customer be charged for this job"?
Haha! Hire me and you'll find out!