I bought a sprayer to paint a large trellis fence, which would've been a right royal pain with a brush. My wife followed along on the other side with a large cardboard sheet to catch the overspray. I had approximately a 3:1 ratio of paint on the fence to paint on the wife. Not recommended as a team-building exercise.
Just on filling up the gun, best tool I've found is get either a 2pt or 4pt plastic milk container, keep the lid on. Cut the bottom portion off, and clean out. Then you're left with a soft flexible scoop with a handle on that can be used for easy and quick filling. That's what I've used successfully many times.
I had several hundred metres to do with one of those sprayers once. To get around the refilling mess i went to a local home brewing shop, bought a high flow tap and fitted it to an empty 10 litre paint tub i had. I wasnt sure how it would turn out but it worked bloody brilliantly! Zero mess at all!
I dont know if its because i am becoming old or not but i genuinely love this chap. His videos are brilliant but not sure i will be able to tell any of my friends what i have been watching.
I bought a HVLP from Rutlands ... I also really enjoyed painting my very large fence. I thinned the fence paint in the tub and used a plastic jug to fill up the tank, and to clean the gun after, I put it into a bucket of clean water and ran it for a few minutes to clean its self out .... great video !
Bought a 500W Guild sprayer with separate power unit from Argos £35 to paint approx 16m of 1.2m fence with trellis top. Did both sides in about 2 hours. Moved on to my 18M x 2 m feather edge fence this afternoon. Did one side in 3 hours. WHAT A BRILLIANT PEICE OF KIT! Best thing I've ever bought. Great finish and no diluting of paint. Used Ronseal Fencelife +.
I bought the smaller Wagner W100 last year to do fences and sheds. Although it's only got an 800ml capacity, I found that it was fine. I probably only use it once a year so spending a bit more time doesn't really bother me. I'm really messy when waiting with brushes and I found this to be much cleaner and easier.
Might have already been mentioned, but you can get replacement reservoirs that come with lids. This is helpful if you use the same primer for most projects and saves washing the reservoir. Looking forward to more of these outdoor projects.
I bought a Black and Decker HVLP200 from B&M for £30 just before lockdown,it's electric and my garden fence is 2m high and my garden is 10m long and 6m wide,I used Ronseal red cedar fence paint without diluting it and covered my fence in one day,I also did my shed with a green latex paint the next day and only had to stop to fill the 1200ml reservoir a few times during the process,the finish was excellent considering what I paid for it,I have no plans to use it inside so the finish you get on garden furniture etc is good enough for me,love your videos by the way,keep them coming
The reason the stain went on better was because it was thinner. It would have been easier to thin the paint in a separate container and thin pour the mix into the spray pot using a cheap plastic jug. These are great for fences, etc...but theres a trade off with walls and woodwork, having to thin the paint means more overspray and more coats in some cases, plus the chance of runs and breaking down the binder in the paint You also have to consider the time it takes to mask and protect other surfaces and the cost of the masking materials A lot of diyers buy cheap sprayers, mistakenly thinking they are just 'plug n play' they aint
I bought the Wagner 690 quite awhile ago just to paint the render on my house, as this was one of the only sprayers that stated it can cope with smooth masonry paint. After setting the wall sprayer up and masking the windows and doors up I painted the whole of the house (Semi Detached) in 1 day. For the cost of the sprayer and abit of labour, beats paying for someone to do the job.
Hi mate how good was this model of spray gun at handling the smooth finish masonary paint a lot of folk have said there is uneven coverage , not a wide enough spray fan , nozzles blocking etc etc I,'ve got to paint the exterior walls on our house as soon as the weather permits and I'm not looking forward to using the ole brush and roller tbh 16:23 lol
I think the trouble at the beginning was the globs of paint you put in. I've never seen paint which globs like that ever on on properly with even a roller or brush. I've used airless sprayers many times and after gun set up, the most important thing is paint consistency. I would definitely recommend using a cordless drill with a mixing attachment, add perhaps thin the paint 5-10% and then strain it through a sieve before using. Also buy yourself 5-10L drum (the type used for water when you go camping and which has the little tap at the bottom) and put your paint into this and use it to top up. I prefer not to let the gun get less than about 1/3 full as I noticed the spray consistency changes beyond that point.
Hey dude, just watched as a random video. Just wantede to give a tip, mkst pros use a liner in the cartridge like a nappy bag or similar, to save leaving a residue inside from different paints. Cheers dude
I have the same machine, the impetus was that my new build house was sprayed and we wanted to retain the finish as we put colour on the walls. Two things I’ve found which might help. Use trade emulsions they need less thinning compared to diy versions. Most diy paint from manufacturers such as Dulux are designed to not even need stirring let alone thinning. The other thing is to filter the paint. I didn’t have many clogs but cleaning is a pain and since using a filter I’ve not had a single clog and enjoy spraying even more. Your comment on cleaning time/efforts meaning that you might only reserve the sprayer for larger jobs isn’t my experience. When compared to brushing and rollering where you’re cleaning rather than discarding the brush or roller, I find the sprayer doesn’t take much more time.
@@hufartd absolutely definitely. Spraying rough masonry, render or wood is so much easier with a sprayer. Clogs and cleaning are the main issues so mask and move everything out of the way before you start. That last thing you want is a thin layer of paint drying inside the sprayer whilst you move things out of the way and mask off a windows you forgot about. Speaking from experience :-).
@@DollarBillscotland Hey Bill - the filters I use look like little paper and mesh funnels that you put on top of the sprayer bottle when you pour the paint in from the can. The ones I get are from amazon. It adds a minute or so to refilling the sprayer, but I've never had a clog.
I've got the Wagner Fence & Decking Sprayer which has a 1400ml reservoir so gives slightly longer spray time between trips to the "soup kitchen" Top Tip - I cut the top half from an old 3L Fabric Conditioner bottle and use it as a wide necked funnel to pour straight in to the spray container from the big fence paint bucket then dilute with water afterwards I now love painting my 20 fence panels with this as it is so quick and satisfying. I actually spend more time masking off my concrete posts and plinths than painting, but then I think "I may as well do 2 coats" seeing as I've gone to the trouble of doing the prep
I will definitely check for ine of these. My passion for DIY and painting has grown. And I really enjoy watching proper DIY. I have been learning more. I'm in process of painting my concrete walls in the garden. Just have to make sure cats don't get paint😅. Thank you for all your videos. Ypu speak very clearly To be honest I understand British accent better than American.
Thanks for the video. I'm wondering what's the difference in the end with buying a spray gun that works off a compressor. The compressor can be used for many other tools, here you basically have a single-purpose compressor.
Good video I went for the W 950 I like the getting the paint directly from the can rather than filling the pot every 5 mins. Free next day delivery with Amazon UK.
Just a tip I saw elsewhere on youtube, you can place two strips of gaffer tap in a V on the opening of paint/stain tin and then it will pour out like a spout. It also keeps the edges of the tin free of paint! Might save you an ear bashing from the Wife :) I've been an avid watcher of your channel since i found a video on adding an electric socket. Love your presenting style and step by step guides. Your sense of humour add to a sometime dry subject. Well done!
When I saw the huge difference in coverage, without changing your technique at all. I knew which one I would go with. Glad to see you went the same way. I'm what's referred to as a "wet-painter" in my 'neck-of-woods'. By the way, I use a funnel to catch the paint/stain that's loaded with a strainer. Hope everything went well when the wife got home.
Yes the advantage of a very thin spray coat is it’s virtually instantaneous drying time thus allowing multiple applications in a short time period. For a newbie your gun technique is very good!
I bought a cheap Terratek some years ago after seeing it on Peter's channel, which works very well for furniture panels and so on. Only £30. When I needed to do fences I got a Wagner airless 150M, no reservoir to carry around, 5.5 litre tank, 7.5m hose. I find it doesnt take that much longer to clean either of them than to properly clean brushes and roller, but the waste that coats the tank is a very valid point.
good video. I've owned and used this model for several years. The small gun is best for thinner paints while the big gun is best for less viscous paints such as latex/acrylic water based house and wall paint. Stains tend to be thin by comparison and the big gun really shines with those. I stained a stable with it and for the top of ladder work i strapped the turbine (pump) onto my back or onto the ladder and it worked fine. As for the small gun it works very well with oil based paints but these must be thinned. For example I make ornamental metal tables legs and use Tremclad enamel thinned with acetone to 25 seconds with a ford #4 cup. The issue with any paint that goes on with blobs or orange peel the solution is to thin it.
A few years back I bought one of those hand-pump sprayers for treating the shed. I did it once! While the spraying was OK-ish, it wasn't easy to keep it at the right pressure and it was a total PITA to clean up the sprayer afterwards. Between the long plastic feed tube and the handle/nozzle which didn't really dismantle, it took me ages to get it even partly clean. I haven't used it since! We've just had a new paling fence & gate installed so I'm now at how to treat that, once it becomes necessary. Looking around, most of these electric sprayers seem to dismantle down enough to clean up properly and some even come with a brush for the job. Plus it has to be a whole lot easier doing the actual job! I may or may not end up with a Wagner but it's definitely on the short-list!
I bought this during lockdown. I have done my fencing and internal walls. The adage that it takes longer to mask up and clean up than it does to paint, is true. But well worth it though the finish is great. Also put 3 coats on my fence in an afternoon. I also bought 3 extra containers with lids so I could spray a large area.
Trips to the soup kitchen.. very funny. I find a cheap plastic 2 pint kitchen jug from a pound shop cuts down trips to the SK. Another well made, funny and informative video Stuart.
Best sprayer is the 3,000 psi hvlp sprayers with a extension wand, 25' hose and run on AC. Runs about $150 on Amazon. Go for the best in price performance. The other cheaper hvlp paint sprayers are for much smaller jobs limited by the small paint reservoir. And designed for homeowners to go slow and steady.
It is good to see that another person had the same problem about paint spraying as I did. The main problem I found was that using non water based products cleaning the sprayer was indeed cheap because it was water. But using solvent based paints the cost for cleaning rocketed to the point that larger paint containers made it un viable. Though I did cut down on cleaning the equipment by putting a polyethene bag in the paint reservoir. I did find the gun and a separate small compressor worked best though I did in the end go for a small metal spray gun for paint needing a cleaning solvent with a larger capacity spray gun for sheds and fences. You are very right using a brush to do large items like sheds fences and gates is just tedious.
The battery sprayer from Aldi is very powerful. I don't see how this is faster. The only benefit I see is that there is no pump to wear so you can use your model for big jobs. For the odd fence oiling or room painting, the small sprayer is more than ok.
I think a collaboration with Craig Phillips would be good. I purchased the Wagner Airless Sprayer, you can put the pipe straight into the tub, no need to visit a soup kitchen ever again. Also you can get extra attachments such as tips for various viscosity and spray wand so no need of a ladder. The hose is 15metres long too. Beware of using Cuprinol and Ronseal in your sprayer, there have been complaints of build of wax blocking the sprayer.
I have the same set up. So, another little tip, when cleaning, is to make sure you remove from under the sprayer lid, the white disk that has the tube sticking down into the paint! It will enable you to give it a proper clean but also paint can get trapped between the disk and the lid which, if not cleaned off, will eventually dry, and reduce performance! I have to say, I find the cleanup to be fairly quick. I use an old car sponge and a bucket of water, a hose and also an old kitchen sponge that has a scotchbrite pad to clean off the awkward bits of paint. But otherwise, very nice video!
You can get larger containers for the Wagner hoses Stu. If you buy an extra one as well and maybe get someone else to refill it whilst you’re spraying the job can be done in minutes 😀👍
You “need” to stress that you must protect anything in the background from overspray. It’s so easy for the spray to go over to anything in your neighbours property, including their car, and that could be unpleasant and expensive. I would never let overspray go over the top of a fence without someone holding a cardboard shield. Oh yes, the instrument used for spraying is called a spray gun.
One of the first jobs I've done in my last two homes is to paint the internal walls of my garage/workshop white. It makes for a much brighter and more "comfortable" workplace. It would be an ideal opportunity for you to experiment with the settings of the other spray gun.
I have used the earlex sprayer for over 10 hrs and it's still going strong. It comes with a backpack container which saves on refills although pressure is great so usually use the small container. I wouldn't use a soup ladle as it takes too long. Just pour carefully direct from container having first bent top to give a spout shape. Ground cover needed!! When doing tops of fences use an old cover or in my case a curtain to stop over spray and really annoy the neighbours, esp if they have washing out!! Earlex is so easy to clean, just spray water through it then dismantle and clean. Forgot to mention, keep paint at room temp 24hrs before using as it usually then doesn't need watered down.
I’ve used an Earle’s to spray a car with great results after a cut and polish. I have professional spray guns that work of my compressor so this was a bit of fun.
Well presented video. Looks a fine piece of kit like the idea of not carrying the compressor unit. Might be an idea to use a viscosity cup for quality finish projects. Thanks for sharing
My brother lent me his Bosch HVLP sprayer to do my fences, nothing fancy, just a mains-powered little thing that cost about 20 quid, it was bloody brilliant! I don't know about interior decorating, but you don't need anything expensive for fences and gates.
Having purchased the exact same sprayer in the past & when painting rooms the hopper is far to small so refilling is very frequent which is very heavy on your arms leading to fatigue & the supplied hose a really short especially when spraying ceilings. Overspray is also a massive problem with an air sprayer, not only with clean up as even when all the masking & sheeting is in place it still causes a big mess when removing the masking wet to get a crisp line the sheets are wet through with paint or dry the paint flakes off creating a right mess. Airless sprayers are the way to go with minimal over spray, long hose, no heavy hopper to carry or endlessly refill. Wish I had purchase one in the first place.
i have an earlex, compressor /hose/gun. comes with three paint containers. plus a 10 ltr back pack, no stopping for refills after every ltr. plastic jug to fill ltr pots/paint brush to take off excess, back into paint or fence containers.
For loading mine I use a plastic measuring jug, like the one you are using for clean up but a bit smaller, set of 3 costs a few quid. The handle means you can hook if over the side of the paint/stain vessel which keeps it relatively clean, and the drips then fall back into your paint pot.
Bought the 4000 unit yesterday. Painted 300 ft of cedar fence( inside and out). I read the directions to my son while he set it up. We found a seal/washer, inside the nozzle section had been placed incorrectly at the factory. Hence a grove in it was facing the wrong way. The unit has all the adjustability of a production automotive paint gun. Not a simple one gun setting fits all. We got close prior to our test panel, and it was an easy adjust or two, to get what was deemed a fair final setting. Made amazingly fast work of the 8ft tall fence. Clean up, while a bit entailed is easy. Using an expendable toothbrush and thinner( oil based stain ) we had it as new in 25 min. Use a stepped process with increasingly cleaner results. Last thing we did was use absolutely clean material ( 2 table spoons of thinner in our case ) sprayed shaking the gun. Never use the cup liners though.
My idea about this sprayer for renovation and DIY is to use interchangeable combination of cheap standard sprayer head with standard compressed air hose and connect it with a mobile battery powered compressor. So I'm free to change if I really need more: different sprayer head or bigger compressor.
I always decant my fence stuff into a large bleach container and predilute it, then it's easy to tip into the sprayer with no drips. I've had many messy days of ladels and cups before this!
It might be the wall head but just a couple of observations. 1. Leyland contract matt is an odd paint to spray, it doesn’t like too much thinning prior to atomisation so as a result it is best suited to airless rather than HVLP. Simply, it is a bit weak. 2. If you put up the fluid and the air flow you might eliminate some issues but it amplifies what you already had too - if you increase the fluid first it gives you better feedback as to whether the air needs to go up or not. If it doesn’t then you end up with less overspray. 3. A used bottle of mineral water or something else washed out is a great option for filling. You can mix up the paint to consistency in the bottle and pour it straight into the pot. No mess. 👍
Our neighbour did a lovely job of his fence with one of these. Trouble was, one side of my shed had a curious speckled finish after he finished! Not to be used on windy days!
Stuart, had the same problem with my one as you did with yours, coincidentally with exactly the same Leyland paint, tried it with another paint, worked really well, I think its the opacity of the paint. Even diluted down could not get it to work. Good luck with your one.
Great vid and review, finally a good one on spray painting. I need to convince the wife to paint the garage so i can finally set up my workshop. This device will come in handy, definitely will consider it. Thanks and wish me luck 😅
I invested in the smaller one last year and really good to use like yourself , filling the container I used a funnel and got my workshop done 12x8 in no more than 20 mins. I’d definitely recommend this unit and value for money
Your wife may ask have you seen the ladel. Came across your channel a few days ago and have been watching a lot of your content. Love the information provided, comparisons, do's and don'ts tips and tricks keep at it. I get its doubling all jobs showing how its done but appreciate all the extra effort to help everyone else out.
I would recommend: * using a stirrer on your paint - a metal plastering type. * filtering the paint, even on a new unopened Leyland contract paint. I learnt from bitter experience after ending up with 'flakes' on the wall - resulting in having to let it dry and sand down and redo the whole wall. Picking off flakes is not recommended !!. Pay a bit extra and get a funnel type filter that will sit 'on' the reservoir - the plastic one - and save not needing to have to wash the ladle so you can have the custard over your pudding !!
I had the hand held version.....hard on the wrist though ! but it easily coped with three large bedrooms a large living room and two storey staircase, above my shop, but we left the old carpets down and masked all the windows with newspaper....a good investment !
I've got the kit with the motor built into the handset. On a fence where there is nothing around and no paving, I suppose it could work well. But I first used it in a room. Crap finish and spray absolutely everywhere. Packed it up for 3 years and recently decided to use some water based primer on a wood shelving unit in the garden. Thought, give it another go and got loads of space, what could go wrong? Fine spray flew around over 3m onto back windows. Had to quickly start washing them before it solidified. Remembered why I didn't bother with it the first time. Maybe you can do adjustments and get viscosity right. But that trial and error takes time. Masking up takes time. Lots of paint gets wasted, if not just from the spraying but when diluting it and getting it wrong. Constant refilling of the caddy. If you take too long a break then nozzle can bung up. Then clean up afterwards. Once you measure all that I much prefer the brush and roller!
I needed a battery operated paint sprayer, so as I live in OZ I bought an Ozito from Bunnings and I have to say for a cheapie it's brilliant, I only use it for decking, kids treehouse and the wife's garden studio. Cleans up easily with mineral turps and no long leads. We do have Wagner here but way too dear for their 18v system. Thanks for your great video. Cheers
I have this exact one it's brilliant! Had it 6 months and can say it's helped me so much! I'd recommend the extension arms aswell so when painting anything like a fence or decking your not reaching or bending over
I have the model down from that, £75 from B&Q used it today for the first time doing a clients fencing, what used to take me a full day 8-4:30 now took me 3.5 hours. Game Changer.
Once again I am full of awe with your advice, I too bought a sprayer some 8 months ago but didn't really go through the break down process that you did that brought you to your final decision. Needless to say I absolutely wasted my £74 and whenever I need another tool I will be doing the due diligence to make sure I don't make the same mistake again. I believe I am becoming a better DIYer having had the opportunity to see how you tackle problems and then to follow your advice. Keep up the great work and I always look forward to your next video.
Great tutorial on fence painting with the Wagner spray gun I found just pouring paint directly into the paint bottle worked fine and speeded up the process
Another excellent video. I had a Wagner (not your model) but lost it to one of our sons; that’s the price of a family. I think the real quandary for many people is that balance between brands. By which I mean does spending a lot on a known brand (say De Walt) get a better tool than, say, a tool from Aldi or Lidl. Much may depend upon the amount of usage but would I be better off buying 3 x Aldi during the lifespan of a De Walt? My upbringing was always “ buy cheap; buy twice” and so I have always bought the best (usually the most expensive) tool that I could afford. As a result, my workshop is full of DeWalt, Bosch, Marita, Festool with Axminster Trade heavier machinery plus very good quality hand tools (eg Veritas planes and Iles chisels). It’s all very good, gives me pleasure to use a quality piece and nothing has failed without reaching old age. But, I did buy a Katsu battery router as I wanted a battery machine for a particular job. It’s half (?) the price of a big brand and…..it’s superb. Whether it will last 20 years, I don’t know but I doubt that I will be doing those jobs then. I’ve got many internal walls to paint with emulsion plus a lot of tall wooden fence panels and, like you it seems, I buy tools as an investment (although at 68, my pay back period gets shorter each year). I was persuaded away from another Wagner really because of mediocre views of it for internal walls. So, I bought a Grace Ultra battery model -strictly for me I hope. It does get very good reviews although there is an acceptance that it wouldn’t be suitable for all day painting. Well, my body won’t let me do anything for more than a couple of hours and so, I hope the model and my body are suited to each other. My model was £500 - so a lot more than yours. I hope that the extra cost does bring me a a really high class finish on internal walls. It’s first job will be to do a 9.6m wall where I have made and fitted wall panelling together with linen fold panels. So, a real nightmare for brush or roller but it shouldn’t matter for a sprayer. So, where is the tipping point for people to invest rather than dispose? Too late for me but it seems to be the question that younger people have to work out.
Once again an excellent video, plenty of information and advice for the DIY'er with "no flannel", I like you was looking at getting a sprayer but was totally overcome by the variety and did not know which way to go but you video has pointed me I the right direction. many thanks
I use same sprayer there is 2 easy ways to fill pot, either use tape to make a "V" pattern on paint tub which allows it to flow in thin flow or cut a 2 litre pop bottle in half and put in top of receptacle upside down.
Many electric sprayers allow a tube feed directvto sprayer. My wagner does and its a simple cheap add on kit. Buy a 15l pail and dilute the 10l paint into that ensuring its well mixed. Then move it along. A 3-4 metre tube is best cable tied to pail. I painted a 20m x 3m wall and it took 20 minutes. Then a second coat 30mins later.
I bought one during lockdown and covered 15 fence panels in no time at all, filling the reservoir was a pain but the job was done in less than half a day!
I bought a sprayer to paint a large trellis fence, which would've been a right royal pain with a brush. My wife followed along on the other side with a large cardboard sheet to catch the overspray. I had approximately a 3:1 ratio of paint on the fence to paint on the wife. Not recommended as a team-building exercise.
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You should set up a side business spray tanning the local ladies, line em up in the garden and let rip.
Make sure to charge by the square metre.😏
was you going for a 1:1 ration fence/wife ?
@@lazycarper7925 I discovered 6 :9 gives the best overall experience
Just on filling up the gun, best tool I've found is get either a 2pt or 4pt plastic milk container, keep the lid on. Cut the bottom portion off, and clean out. Then you're left with a soft flexible scoop with a handle on that can be used for easy and quick filling. That's what I've used successfully many times.
Cheers dave, you've just clued me up on a method I've been trying to think of for the last hour on and off.
i'm using one of those small plastic jugs to fill the reservoir. easier and less messy than a ladle
funnels are useful inventions for paint pouring
I bought the same sprayer on this review. Thank you. I painted a bedroom in about 35 mins with the wall and ceiling sprayer.
I had several hundred metres to do with one of those sprayers once.
To get around the refilling mess i went to a local home brewing shop, bought a high flow tap and fitted it to an empty 10 litre paint tub i had.
I wasnt sure how it would turn out but it worked bloody brilliantly! Zero mess at all!
Did the tap go in the bottom of the side or the very bottom of the tub? Thank you!
I dont know if its because i am becoming old or not but i genuinely love this chap. His videos are brilliant but not sure i will be able to tell any of my friends what i have been watching.
Just tell 'em you're watching that muscular throbbing vascular milwaukee guy who keeps yells about everything he talks about
My wife and I love putting your videos on whilst we get frisky in the bedroom. This one was a winner, especially!
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Leave woman aside eish
Yeah she told me it gives her something to do untill you finish
@ it does and she’s a wizard with a caulk gun now
Great video. For filling the reservoir, I used a funnel that comes with a dishwasher to pour in the salt as it has a wide tip
I bought a HVLP from Rutlands ... I also really enjoyed painting my very large fence. I thinned the fence paint in the tub and used a plastic jug to fill up the tank, and to clean the gun after, I put it into a bucket of clean water and ran it for a few minutes to clean its self out .... great video !
I also find pouring water into the container and spraying that through to clean it much faster and easier
Yeah if the paint is water based this will work, will not work for solvent paint thinners is needed
Bought a 500W Guild sprayer with separate power unit from Argos £35 to paint approx 16m of 1.2m fence with trellis top. Did both sides in about 2 hours. Moved on to my 18M x 2 m feather edge fence this afternoon. Did one side in 3 hours. WHAT A BRILLIANT PEICE OF KIT! Best thing I've ever bought. Great finish and no diluting of paint. Used Ronseal Fencelife +.
I bought the smaller Wagner W100 last year to do fences and sheds. Although it's only got an 800ml capacity, I found that it was fine. I probably only use it once a year so spending a bit more time doesn't really bother me. I'm really messy when waiting with brushes and I found this to be much cleaner and easier.
Might have already been mentioned, but you can get replacement reservoirs that come with lids. This is helpful if you use the same primer for most projects and saves washing the reservoir. Looking forward to more of these outdoor projects.
Yes they do sell them
They do sell them but they are ridiculously pricey for what they are. Not found a compatible aftermarket cheap version.
I bought a Black and Decker HVLP200 from B&M for £30 just before lockdown,it's electric and my garden fence is 2m high and my garden is 10m long and 6m wide,I used Ronseal red cedar fence paint without diluting it and covered my fence in one day,I also did my shed with a green latex paint the next day and only had to stop to fill the 1200ml reservoir a few times during the process,the finish was excellent considering what I paid for it,I have no plans to use it inside so the finish you get on garden furniture etc is good enough for me,love your videos by the way,keep them coming
The reason the stain went on better was because it was thinner. It would have been easier to thin the paint in a separate container and thin pour the mix into the spray pot using a cheap plastic jug.
These are great for fences, etc...but theres a trade off with walls and woodwork, having to thin the paint means more overspray and more coats in some cases, plus the chance of runs and breaking down the binder in the paint
You also have to consider the time it takes to mask and protect other surfaces and the cost of the masking materials
A lot of diyers buy cheap sprayers, mistakenly thinking they are just 'plug n play' they aint
With latex you have to thin down with 10% warm water in this sprayer. Then the result is fantastic.
You cant imagine, how you on time with this video! Thank You
I bought the Wagner 690 quite awhile ago just to paint the render on my house, as this was one of the only sprayers that stated it can cope with smooth masonry paint. After setting the wall sprayer up and masking the windows and doors up I painted the whole of the house (Semi Detached) in 1 day. For the cost of the sprayer and abit of labour, beats paying for someone to do the job.
Looking to get a sprayer to do my outside walls, gladyou have had a positive experience with this model.
Good to hear that's the sprayer I've been looking at, I have a three floor Georgian house so need something more professional
Hi mate
how good was this model of spray gun at handling the smooth finish masonary paint
a lot of folk have said there is uneven coverage , not a wide enough spray fan , nozzles blocking etc etc
I,'ve got to paint the exterior walls on our house as soon as the weather permits and I'm not looking forward to using the ole brush and roller tbh 16:23 lol
I think the trouble at the beginning was the globs of paint you put in. I've never seen paint which globs like that ever on on properly with even a roller or brush. I've used airless sprayers many times and after gun set up, the most important thing is paint consistency. I would definitely recommend using a cordless drill with a mixing attachment, add perhaps thin the paint 5-10% and then strain it through a sieve before using. Also buy yourself 5-10L drum (the type used for water when you go camping and which has the little tap at the bottom) and put your paint into this and use it to top up. I prefer not to let the gun get less than about 1/3 full as I noticed the spray consistency changes beyond that point.
That white paint was like tooo thick
How did you manage the overstay from the gun, atomised paint travels a long way, and settles on most items - especially window frames, doors etc.
@@davidgrinter5938cover up with tape and light plastic. You can buy it in most builder merchants
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Hey dude, just watched as a random video. Just wantede to give a tip, mkst pros use a liner in the cartridge like a nappy bag or similar, to save leaving a residue inside from different paints. Cheers dude
I have the same machine, the impetus was that my new build house was sprayed and we wanted to retain the finish as we put colour on the walls. Two things I’ve found which might help. Use trade emulsions they need less thinning compared to diy versions. Most diy paint from manufacturers such as Dulux are designed to not even need stirring let alone thinning. The other thing is to filter the paint. I didn’t have many clogs but cleaning is a pain and since using a filter I’ve not had a single clog and enjoy spraying even more.
Your comment on cleaning time/efforts meaning that you might only reserve the sprayer for larger jobs isn’t my experience. When compared to brushing and rollering where you’re cleaning rather than discarding the brush or roller, I find the sprayer doesn’t take much more time.
Im looking to spray my internal double garage walls (concrete block and roughcast do you think the machine is up to that?
@@hufartd absolutely definitely. Spraying rough masonry, render or wood is so much easier with a sprayer. Clogs and cleaning are the main issues so mask and move everything out of the way before you start. That last thing you want is a thin layer of paint drying inside the sprayer whilst you move things out of the way and mask off a windows you forgot about. Speaking from experience :-).
Re filtering the paint. How did you actually achieve this? Straight from the tin or is there an inline filter?
@@DollarBillscotland Hey Bill - the filters I use look like little paper and mesh funnels that you put on top of the sprayer bottle when you pour the paint in from the can. The ones I get are from amazon. It adds a minute or so to refilling the sprayer, but I've never had a clog.
This would be perfect for painting my flowers in my garden I am sick and tired of them being green now it's time to paint them blue!
I use a silicon kitchen spatula to scrape unused paint from pots and trays back into the tin. It's quick and effective and cuts down on waste.
I've got the Wagner Fence & Decking Sprayer which has a 1400ml reservoir so gives slightly longer spray time between trips to the "soup kitchen"
Top Tip - I cut the top half from an old 3L Fabric Conditioner bottle and use it as a wide necked funnel to pour straight in to the spray container from the big fence paint bucket then dilute with water afterwards
I now love painting my 20 fence panels with this as it is so quick and satisfying.
I actually spend more time masking off my concrete posts and plinths than painting, but then I think "I may as well do 2 coats" seeing as I've gone to the trouble of doing the prep
Good tip. Exactly - so easy you end up wanting to do more!
@@ProperDIY The sign of success. Behind every successful engineer is a right lazy sod...
I will definitely check for ine of these. My passion for DIY and painting has grown. And I really enjoy watching proper DIY. I have been learning more.
I'm in process of painting my concrete walls in the garden. Just have to make sure cats don't get paint😅. Thank you for all your videos. Ypu speak very clearly
To be honest I understand British accent better than American.
Thanks for the video. I'm wondering what's the difference in the end with buying a spray gun that works off a compressor. The compressor can be used for many other tools, here you basically have a single-purpose compressor.
@@Schollii68 Stuart mentioned compressor noise was problematic.
What a great DIY video. Well edited, spoken and explained. Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the no frills info and demo. I feel confident the equipment is as per your demonstration.
Good video I went for the W 950 I like the getting the paint directly from the can rather than filling the pot every 5 mins. Free next day delivery with Amazon UK.
Just a tip I saw elsewhere on youtube, you can place two strips of gaffer tap in a V on the opening of paint/stain tin and then it will pour out like a spout. It also keeps the edges of the tin free of paint! Might save you an ear bashing from the Wife :) I've been an avid watcher of your channel since i found a video on adding an electric socket. Love your presenting style and step by step guides. Your sense of humour add to a sometime dry subject. Well done!
I got lucky and stumbled across your channel. Really enjoy it! Greetings from the USA!
When I saw the huge difference in coverage, without changing your technique at all. I knew which one I would go with. Glad to see you went the same way. I'm what's referred to as a "wet-painter" in my 'neck-of-woods'.
By the way, I use a funnel to catch the paint/stain that's loaded with a strainer.
Hope everything went well when the wife got home.
Yes the advantage of a very thin spray coat is it’s virtually instantaneous drying time thus allowing multiple applications in a short time period. For a newbie your gun technique is very good!
I bought a cheap Terratek some years ago after seeing it on Peter's channel, which works very well for furniture panels and so on. Only £30.
When I needed to do fences I got a Wagner airless 150M, no reservoir to carry around, 5.5 litre tank, 7.5m hose.
I find it doesnt take that much longer to clean either of them than to properly clean brushes and roller, but the waste that coats the tank is a very valid point.
150 is good but there is no pressure control
Thank you!!! Great compact video with honest opinion! I'll pick up one right now, knowing i make the right choice.
good video. I've owned and used this model for several years. The small gun is best for thinner paints while the big gun is best for less viscous paints such as latex/acrylic water based house and wall paint. Stains tend to be thin by comparison and the big gun really shines with those. I stained a stable with it and for the top of ladder work i strapped the turbine (pump) onto my back or onto the ladder and it worked fine. As for the small gun it works very well with oil based paints but these must be thinned. For example I make ornamental metal tables legs and use Tremclad enamel thinned with acetone to 25 seconds with a ford #4 cup. The issue with any paint that goes on with blobs or orange peel the solution is to thin it.
Great informative video , just bought one and now love painting my 62 panel 5x6ft I can all in 1 day , used to dread it.
I have used my soup laddle for scooping out the Saniflo, it's now in a bucket in my shead with other Saniflo tools.
Great instructive video, I'm getting one for my fence and summerhouse 👍
A few years back I bought one of those hand-pump sprayers for treating the shed. I did it once! While the spraying was OK-ish, it wasn't easy to keep it at the right pressure and it was a total PITA to clean up the sprayer afterwards. Between the long plastic feed tube and the handle/nozzle which didn't really dismantle, it took me ages to get it even partly clean. I haven't used it since!
We've just had a new paling fence & gate installed so I'm now at how to treat that, once it becomes necessary. Looking around, most of these electric sprayers seem to dismantle down enough to clean up properly and some even come with a brush for the job. Plus it has to be a whole lot easier doing the actual job! I may or may not end up with a Wagner but it's definitely on the short-list!
I bought this during lockdown. I have done my fencing and internal walls. The adage that it takes longer to mask up and clean up than it does to paint, is true. But well worth it
though the finish is great. Also put 3 coats on my fence in an afternoon. I also bought 3 extra containers with lids so I could spray a large area.
Nice one Clive
Trips to the soup kitchen.. very funny. I find a cheap plastic 2 pint kitchen jug from a pound shop cuts down trips to the SK. Another well made, funny and informative video Stuart.
Best sprayer is the 3,000 psi hvlp sprayers with a extension wand, 25' hose and run on AC. Runs about $150 on Amazon. Go for the best in price performance.
The other cheaper hvlp paint sprayers are for much smaller jobs limited by the small paint reservoir. And designed for homeowners to go slow and steady.
I brought a $340Au Ozito airless sprayer and paints fences and other framing like pro it’s all in the mix and TLC of the equipment
I have this one and will be attacking my kitchen cabinets soon. Thank you for the tips
It is good to see that another person had the same problem about paint spraying as I did. The main problem I found was that using non water based products cleaning the sprayer was indeed cheap because it was water. But using solvent based paints the cost for cleaning rocketed to the point that larger paint containers made it un viable. Though I did cut down on cleaning the equipment by putting a polyethene bag in the paint reservoir. I did find the gun and a separate small compressor worked best though I did in the end go for a small metal spray gun for paint needing a cleaning solvent with a larger capacity spray gun for sheds and fences. You are very right using a brush to do large items like sheds fences and gates is just tedious.
Thank you, we have a lot fence and that's just saved me buying a battery powered one. Thanks 🙂
The battery sprayer from Aldi is very powerful. I don't see how this is faster. The only benefit I see is that there is no pump to wear so you can use your model for big jobs. For the odd fence oiling or room painting, the small sprayer is more than ok.
I think a collaboration with Craig Phillips would be good.
I purchased the Wagner Airless Sprayer, you can put the pipe straight into the tub, no need to visit a soup kitchen ever again. Also you can get extra attachments such as tips for various viscosity and spray wand so no need of a ladder. The hose is 15metres long too.
Beware of using Cuprinol and Ronseal in your sprayer, there have been complaints of build of wax blocking the sprayer.
I have the same set up. So, another little tip, when cleaning, is to make sure you remove from under the sprayer lid, the white disk that has the tube sticking down into the paint! It will enable you to give it a proper clean but also paint can get trapped between the disk and the lid which, if not cleaned off, will eventually dry, and reduce performance! I have to say, I find the cleanup to be fairly quick. I use an old car sponge and a bucket of water, a hose and also an old kitchen sponge that has a scotchbrite pad to clean off the awkward bits of paint. But otherwise, very nice video!
I use a kitchen measuring jug to fill the the spray kettle with. Works a treat.
You can get larger containers for the Wagner hoses Stu. If you buy an extra one as well and maybe get someone else to refill it whilst you’re spraying the job can be done in minutes 😀👍
That's interesting to know thanks - good tip
Great video. Great practical advice, especially needing the ladle 😊
You “need” to stress that you must protect anything in the background from overspray. It’s so easy for the spray to go over to anything in your neighbours property, including their car, and that could be unpleasant and expensive. I would never let overspray go over the top of a fence without someone holding a cardboard shield.
Oh yes, the instrument used for spraying is called a spray gun.
One of the first jobs I've done in my last two homes is to paint the internal walls of my garage/workshop white.
It makes for a much brighter and more "comfortable" workplace.
It would be an ideal opportunity for you to experiment with the settings of the other spray gun.
I have used the earlex sprayer for over 10 hrs and it's still going strong. It comes with a backpack container which saves on refills although pressure is great so usually use the small container. I wouldn't use a soup ladle as it takes too long. Just pour carefully direct from container having first bent top to give a spout shape. Ground cover needed!! When doing tops of fences use an old cover or in my case a curtain to stop over spray and really annoy the neighbours, esp if they have washing out!! Earlex is so easy to clean, just spray water through it then dismantle and clean. Forgot to mention, keep paint at room temp 24hrs before using as it usually then doesn't need watered down.
I’ve used an Earle’s to spray a car with great results after a cut and polish. I have professional spray guns that work of my compressor so this was a bit of fun.
Well presented video. Looks a fine piece of kit like the idea of not carrying the compressor unit. Might be an idea to use a viscosity cup for quality finish projects. Thanks for sharing
I was going to ask about the viscosity. All the videos I've watched on sprayers have used them. Do you need one with a Wanger? Well presented btw.
Thank you for this. I’m in the same situation looking for a sprayer. Looks like something I’m looking for
My brother lent me his Bosch HVLP sprayer to do my fences, nothing fancy, just a mains-powered little thing that cost about 20 quid, it was bloody brilliant! I don't know about interior decorating, but you don't need anything expensive for fences and gates.
Thank you for taking the time to do this video 👍🏻
Having purchased the exact same sprayer in the past & when painting rooms the hopper is far to small so refilling is very frequent which is very heavy on your arms leading to fatigue & the supplied hose a really short especially when spraying ceilings.
Overspray is also a massive problem with an air sprayer, not only with clean up as even when all the masking & sheeting is in place it still causes a big mess when removing the masking wet to get a crisp line the sheets are wet through with paint or dry the paint flakes off creating a right mess.
Airless sprayers are the way to go with minimal over spray, long hose, no heavy hopper to carry or endlessly refill. Wish I had purchase one in the first place.
Exactly this!
so true. similar experience and i have actually decided to replace mine with an airless one
Thanks a lot for you perfect video. I receive the Wagner W450 for Christmas and when i see your video i'm sure it's a good gift.
i have an earlex, compressor /hose/gun. comes with three paint containers. plus a 10 ltr back pack, no stopping for refills after every ltr. plastic jug to fill ltr pots/paint brush to take off excess, back into paint or fence containers.
For loading mine I use a plastic measuring jug, like the one you are using for clean up but a bit smaller, set of 3 costs a few quid.
The handle means you can hook if over the side of the paint/stain vessel which keeps it relatively clean, and the drips then fall back into your paint pot.
Bought the 4000 unit yesterday. Painted 300 ft of cedar fence( inside and out). I read the directions to my son while he set it up. We found a seal/washer, inside the nozzle section had been placed incorrectly at the factory. Hence a grove in it was facing the wrong way. The
unit has all the adjustability of a production automotive paint gun. Not a simple one gun setting fits all. We got close prior to our test panel, and it was an easy adjust or two, to get what was deemed a fair final setting. Made amazingly fast work of the 8ft tall fence. Clean up, while a bit entailed is easy. Using an expendable toothbrush and thinner( oil based stain ) we had it as new in 25 min. Use a stepped process with increasingly cleaner results. Last thing we did was use absolutely clean material ( 2 table spoons of thinner in our case ) sprayed shaking the gun. Never use the cup liners though.
My idea about this sprayer for renovation and DIY is to use interchangeable combination of cheap standard sprayer head with standard compressed air hose and connect it with a mobile battery powered compressor. So I'm free to change if I really need more: different sprayer head or bigger compressor.
I always decant my fence stuff into a large bleach container and predilute it, then it's easy to tip into the sprayer with no drips. I've had many messy days of ladels and cups before this!
It might be the wall head but just a couple of observations.
1. Leyland contract matt is an odd paint to spray, it doesn’t like too much thinning prior to atomisation so as a result it is best suited to airless rather than HVLP. Simply, it is a bit weak.
2. If you put up the fluid and the air flow you might eliminate some issues but it amplifies what you already had too - if you increase the fluid first it gives you better feedback as to whether the air needs to go up or not. If it doesn’t then you end up with less overspray.
3. A used bottle of mineral water or something else washed out is a great option for filling. You can mix up the paint to consistency in the bottle and pour it straight into the pot. No mess. 👍
Good job to take us through the issues of concern. Thanks. Well-done.
Our neighbour did a lovely job of his fence with one of these. Trouble was, one side of my shed had a curious speckled finish after he finished! Not to be used on windy days!
This couldn't have come at a better time. I've 50 yards of fence I need to paint, and was dreading doing it by brush.
Excellent stuff...need to do both sides of our garden..haven't even given the thought of a paint sprayer ...brilliant thanks
I bought my Wagner sprayer for pebbledash walls. It's a game changer
Please remember not to include your model number.
@@Saintathantwinpeaks I will tomorrow, sorry
Stuart, had the same problem with my one as you did with yours, coincidentally with exactly the same Leyland paint, tried it with another paint, worked really well, I think its the opacity of the paint.
Even diluted down could not get it to work. Good luck with your one.
I always dilute emulsion when I use my Wagner sprayer and always make sure you keep the filter clean on the blower unit
Your Video is great Thank you , I have the Wagner Flexio 590, And the weight doesn't bug me. Wagner is a good product
Great vid and review, finally a good one on spray painting. I need to convince the wife to paint the garage so i can finally set up my workshop. This device will come in handy, definitely will consider it. Thanks and wish me luck 😅
I bought a Wagner W100 spray gun. Pretty impressed with it
I invested in the smaller one last year and really good to use like yourself , filling the container I used a funnel and got my workshop done 12x8 in no more than 20 mins. I’d definitely recommend this unit and value for money
Thanks for This!! I'm self employed and don't even have time to research. Let alone use a brush. Many thanks!!!
Thank you for this video, I will be painting my house in a few weeks & this was very helpful
Your wife may ask have you seen the ladel.
Came across your channel a few days ago and have been watching a lot of your content. Love the information provided, comparisons, do's and don'ts tips and tricks keep at it. I get its doubling all jobs showing how its done but appreciate all the extra effort to help everyone else out.
I would recommend:
* using a stirrer on your paint - a metal plastering type.
* filtering the paint, even on a new unopened Leyland contract paint.
I learnt from bitter experience after ending up with 'flakes' on the wall - resulting in having to let it dry and sand down and redo the whole wall. Picking off flakes is not recommended !!.
Pay a bit extra and get a funnel type filter that will sit 'on' the reservoir - the plastic one - and save not needing to have to wash the ladle so you can have the custard over your pudding !!
I had the hand held version.....hard on the wrist though ! but it easily coped with three large bedrooms a large living room and two storey staircase, above my shop, but we left the old carpets down and masked all the windows with newspaper....a good investment !
I've got the kit with the motor built into the handset. On a fence where there is nothing around and no paving, I suppose it could work well. But I first used it in a room. Crap finish and spray absolutely everywhere.
Packed it up for 3 years and recently decided to use some water based primer on a wood shelving unit in the garden. Thought, give it another go and got loads of space, what could go wrong? Fine spray flew around over 3m onto back windows. Had to quickly start washing them before it solidified.
Remembered why I didn't bother with it the first time. Maybe you can do adjustments and get viscosity right. But that trial and error takes time. Masking up takes time. Lots of paint gets wasted, if not just from the spraying but when diluting it and getting it wrong. Constant refilling of the caddy. If you take too long a break then nozzle can bung up. Then clean up afterwards.
Once you measure all that I much prefer the brush and roller!
Excellent video thank you I’m going to buy the Wagner now as I’ve got over 14 panels to do 👍
I needed a battery operated paint sprayer, so as I live in OZ I bought an Ozito from Bunnings and I have to say for a cheapie it's brilliant, I only use it for decking, kids treehouse and the wife's garden studio. Cleans up easily with mineral turps and no long leads. We do have Wagner here but way too dear for their 18v system. Thanks for your great video. Cheers
I have this exact one it's brilliant! Had it 6 months and can say it's helped me so much! I'd recommend the extension arms aswell so when painting anything like a fence or decking your not reaching or bending over
I have the model down from that, £75 from B&Q used it today for the first time doing a clients fencing, what used to take me a full day 8-4:30 now took me 3.5 hours.
Game Changer.
Nice one
@@ProperDIY only negatives is the short length of the hose and power lead, but can live with that for now.
A tradesman working a full 8.5 hour day? Surely not!
You sold it to me- bought one this week. Cheers.
Great video - very helpful.
Excellent. It took me 2 FULL days to paint One side of my fairly large fence. NEVER again will I use a brush.
See you at Makers Central 👍🏾
Fences are the hardest things to paint. See you there!
Once again I am full of awe with your advice, I too bought a sprayer some 8 months ago but didn't really go through the break down process that you did that brought you to your final decision. Needless to say I absolutely wasted my £74 and whenever I need another tool I will be doing the due diligence to make sure I don't make the same mistake again. I believe I am becoming a better DIYer having had the opportunity to see how you tackle problems and then to follow your advice. Keep up the great work and I always look forward to your next video.
Thank you Tony
Disaster avoided! Bought the same sprayer 8 weeks ago, but haven't used it in anger as yet! (Weather (Scotland)) 🙂
I'm relieved
Great tutorial on fence painting with the Wagner spray gun I found just pouring paint directly into the paint bottle worked fine and speeded up the process
Another excellent video. I had a Wagner (not your model) but lost it to one of our sons; that’s the price of a family.
I think the real quandary for many people is that balance between brands. By which I mean does spending a lot on a known brand (say De Walt) get a better tool than, say, a tool from Aldi or Lidl. Much may depend upon the amount of usage but would I be better off buying 3 x Aldi during the lifespan of a De Walt?
My upbringing was always “ buy cheap; buy twice” and so I have always bought the best (usually the most expensive) tool that I could afford. As a result, my workshop is full of DeWalt, Bosch, Marita, Festool with Axminster Trade heavier machinery plus very good quality hand tools (eg Veritas planes and Iles chisels). It’s all very good, gives me pleasure to use a quality piece and nothing has failed without reaching old age.
But, I did buy a Katsu battery router as I wanted a battery machine for a particular job. It’s half (?) the price of a big brand and…..it’s superb. Whether it will last 20 years, I don’t know but I doubt that I will be doing those jobs then.
I’ve got many internal walls to paint with emulsion plus a lot of tall wooden fence panels and, like you it seems, I buy tools as an investment (although at 68, my pay back period gets shorter each year). I was persuaded away from another Wagner really because of mediocre views of it for internal walls. So, I bought a Grace Ultra battery model -strictly for me I hope. It does get very good reviews although there is an acceptance that it wouldn’t be suitable for all day painting. Well, my body won’t let me do anything for more than a couple of hours and so, I hope the model and my body are suited to each other.
My model was £500 - so a lot more than yours. I hope that the extra cost does bring me a a really high class finish on internal walls. It’s first job will be to do a 9.6m wall where I have made and fitted wall panelling together with linen fold panels. So, a real nightmare for brush or roller but it shouldn’t matter for a sprayer.
So, where is the tipping point for people to invest rather than dispose? Too late for me but it seems to be the question that younger people have to work out.
Once again an excellent video, plenty of information and advice for the DIY'er with "no flannel", I like you was looking at getting a sprayer but was totally overcome by the variety and did not know which way to go but you video has pointed me I the right direction. many thanks
I use same sprayer there is 2 easy ways to fill pot, either use tape to make a "V" pattern on paint tub which allows it to flow in thin flow or cut a 2 litre pop bottle in half and put in top of receptacle upside down.
Great review. Helped me decide what I need and some good tips for someone (like you) who has never bought or even used a sprayer before. Thanks
Many electric sprayers allow a tube feed directvto sprayer. My wagner does and its a simple cheap add on kit. Buy a 15l pail and dilute the 10l paint into that ensuring its well mixed. Then move it along. A 3-4 metre tube is best cable tied to pail. I painted a 20m x 3m wall and it took 20 minutes. Then a second coat 30mins later.
Use a kitchen silicone spatula to clean out the container. Also works well for getting all the paint out of any plastic pot.
I bought one during lockdown and covered 15 fence panels in no time at all, filling the reservoir was a pain but the job was done in less than half a day!
"visit the soup kitchen more often" lollll very true. Excellent review.