M1 MAX MacBook Pro vs. M1 PRO MacBook Pro - Video Editing Comparison. M1 MAX vs. M1 PRO
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Ultimate video editing comparison between the M1 MAX MacBook Pro vs. M1 PRO MacBook Pro. In this video editing comparison between the M1 MacBook Pro M1 MAX and the M1 MacBook PRO M1 PRO, I exclusively do real world tests between the M1 MAX vs. M1 PRO to find out which computer is better for video editing in Final Cut Pro. Do you need to get the M1 MAX MacBook Pro that has 32 GPU cores and 32 GB of RAM to get high speed video editing performance, or is the M1 PRO MacBook Pro with 16 GPU cores and 16 GB of RAM strong enough for FCP.
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In this video I compare the M1 MAX MacBook Pro vs. M1 PRO MacBook Pro specifically for video editing. Is it necessary to get the M1 MAX MBP, or is the M1 PRO MBP strong enough. All the real world tests in this video will help you decide if the M1 MAX with 32 GPU cores is required for your needs.
Video Chapters:
0:00 Outlining Editing Tests
0:57 Playback / Scrubbing Quality
2:07 Complicated Project Tests #1
4:09 Complicated Project Tests #2
5:58 Complicated Project Tests #3
7:12 Render/ Exports Tests
9:31 Stabilization
10:32 Plug-in Tests
11:19 Simple Project Tests
12:29 Color Grade
13:07 Transcode
14:56 M1 MAX vs. M1 PRO Final Thoughts
Well those results are NOT what I expected at all!
Let me know if you have any questions :)
Based on the overall performance of both the variants, it does give a clarity in order to save a 1000 bucks. However, I just wanted to know how both performs when switched between apps within Adobe i.e. After Effects. I'll be cent percent sure then. Thanks in advance.
So the only Adobe apps I tested were photoshop and Lightroom, and I will say the performance was very similar.
Great tests!!! Happy to find out that other users had dropped frames like I had on my M1 Max. My mac struggling when I tried to edit the High level video of an iPhone11 (60fps). Also I had lag playback with many 3rd party plug-ins even if it was a title.
Thank you :) Yea seems to be the norm unfortunately. I really thought the max was going to be a lot stronger.
@@TymekStolarz Thanks for one more time. You did the best tests by far! You are showing real-world performance! Others YTers previews were so overprized the M1 max so a lot of people take the bite. Of course, is a great system... but I can still live with my old iMac i5 2019... or with the M1 pro version like you mention. Peace.
These are the videos that are impactful…no fluff and extra talk. Straight to it!
Wow I left a like expecting a few million subscribers due to the quality of content and time you’ve put into these tests. I’ve subscribed for more, your UA-cam journey is going to be bright! 👍
Haha thank you so much! I really appreciate those kind words :) it means a lot
Dude this video is stupid good. Keep up the GREAT work!
Thank you so much :)
Best “using the app”
tests ive seen, and ive seen many simple export / render tests Great job! New sub earned. And you even test Canon All-I. Excellent. Do you think this comparison using DaVinci Resolve
free version would produce similar results?
Most awaited review... I'm glad you did this comparison... Exceptionally informative... Keep up the good work bro! 👍🏼
Sorry it took so long! thank you very much for the kind words. I was actually quite disappointed in the M1 MAX to be honest.
@@TymekStolarz Absolutely. Especially when the cost difference between the two variants is quite massive. 1000 bucks for a couple of secs faster performance ain't a deal for me no way. Credits to your effort.
Exactly. Thanks again and I hope you have a good day, take care
Top video, great work!
Great comparison. Didnt expect this either...
Thank you! I know very strange results.
Great and informative review! Thank you!
:) thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time to let me know.
Your review and comparison are very helpful and informative
Thank you :) I appreciate the kind words, and i hope you have a great day!
Comprehensively crushed it. The differences are in the 2 vs 1 pro res acceleration, and where the 16 extra graphic cores would come into play. Ram isint an issue as swap from the ssd would make up for any shortcomings there. This largely accounts for your results, as both machines have the same 10 core cpus! Great video!
Thank you :) truthful I just thought those extra GPU cores would have made the max perform a little better than the pro. I think the max also had double the encoders decoders for h.264, 265 etc. Which would have also increased performance in some of the tests, but wasn’t really the case in the real world
awesome video thank you so much,
I just found this video and it answered alot of my questions from my previous comment. I have the the same specs on my m1 pro as the one you tested so h.265 is a good format in your opinion for the a7s3? Honestly they all look amazing i just want to get the most out of it and im pretty ignorant. Thanks for the videos man I can't imagine how long these must take.....and I thought editing my videos took a long time
I personally like h.265 because its the only one that i can shoot 10 bit, but also 4:2:0. all the other codecs to get 10 bit you also need to shoot 4:2:2.
but yes it is a good format i think to shoot in. they are extremely similar to be honest, just a few tweeks here and there, but generally you wont be able to tell the difference between them.
Haha yes the testing takes forever and then puting everything together into one nice little bow, then optimizing for youtube is another story lol. i've taken a little break as life has changed in the last few months but i need to get back into it.
Wau! Dude this was exactly what I was looking for! Great job! So I did right decision when I ordered 16 inch base model …. My main use of this machine is Final Cut Pro …. I was thinking a lot if i should spend so much more money to get 24core 32gb ram ….And also wait more than 2 months…. But no for me as half time pro is the base model perfect choice. Coming from iMac 2020 i7 5500xt 😊.
Awesome :) glad you made the right choice. i am also using the 2020 imac, although the i9 and 5700 XT. I will be comparing the MAX and the PRO results to it in the next upcoming videos :)
Nice comparision.
Thank you :) Hopefully it helped!
Hi Tymek, pretty interesting video! Though, have you tried a comparison with heavier effects like "Reduce Noise", "tracker", "sharpening",...? Cause I do kinda need those effects for some of the videos I make...
Thank you! unfortunately i did not :( and I already returned the M1 MAX so i wouldn't be able to test it out.
@@TymekStolarz you could of course test it out on your m1 pro to see how it’s performing with some of those effects, if it has to really struggle with it or not.🙂
Yes i could do that for you, i am just finishing up the M1 MAX compared to the 2020 Intel imac comparison that im trying to get out for tomorrow, once i upload i will test the M1 Pro.
I have sharpening in Color Finale, but i only have the stock FInal Cut Pro Noise reduction, not Neat Video. and i can try the native final cut pro tracking, i think pixel film studios tracking is still not working perfectly with M1
@@YBPlaysMusic Hey there :)
So I completed the tests on the M1 Pro, as well as on my 2020 iMac (5700XT 16gb GPU, 10-core i9 CPU, 64 GB RAM).
sharpening using the stock final cut pro plugin at max 100 precent setting, for a 53 second clip, the M1 Pro took only 10.68 seconds, and the imac took 25.77 seconds to render
for noise reduction i used the stock final cut plug in again, and have the settings at the stock values (medium amount, and low sharpness). For the same 53 second clip, the M1 Pro took 18 min, 39 seconds and the imac took 24 min 50 seconds to render. This seems pretty slow for both machines - i wish i had neat video to test how it would work since it seems to be one of the more used plugins.
Lastly i tracked a face in a 28 second clip on both macs using the stock tracker, and it took the m1 pro 58 seconds, and the imac 1min 9 seconds to render.
Hands down the best comparison I’ve seen and exactly what I was looking for. Still waiting on my M1 Max order til August but I’m definitely gonna cancel it now 😂 Thanks for this
Not a problem :D and thank you so much for the kind comment. definitely a longer video but i wanted to test out as many things to show the differences between the two macs.
Great video. I am about to buy and while i know 16GB ram and M1 Pro are showing very similar results i wonder how much of this is down to optimization. Max Tech, for example, saw next to no difference in 16 vs 32gb ram, this was true for After Effects for example, then Adobe released an update and it made a big difference. When people do benchmarks on day one, obviously not many apps out there that have had a chance to optimize. Do you think 16GB ram with Pro 10 core CPU 16GB GPU would be enough if creating proxies for fusion in resolve or doing masking in final cut?
I think its definitely a good system for the price. and you will get more processing power then you would have with intel based macs at similar prices. i it'll run smoothly for most things, but id imagine there still might be some times when some things are slower then you want them to be. when i bought my $5,400 iMac in 2020, i thought theres no way it'll ever be slow - ofcourse there still were some times when it was.
Tymek bardzo Ci dziękuję za to porównanie! Potrzebuję kompa wyłącznie do edycji video i właśnie uratowałeś mnie przed wywaleniem 3000 PLN w błoto😀 Masz bardzo wartościowe treści, które przekładają się na realne oszczędności dla Twoich widzów. Trzymam kciuki za Twój kanał bo zasługuje na wiele więcej wyświetleń. Może popracuj delikatnie nad miniaturkami bo są trochę oldschoolowe ale merytorycznie wymiatasz! Pozwoliłem sobie na komentarz po polsku bo masz swojsko brzmiące nazwisko. Plus jestem ciekaw czy odczytasz😉 Chciałbym kiedyś zobaczyć zestawienie M1, M2 i M3 Pro w Twoim wydaniu. Trzymaj się brachu!
Very well explained and good to see the results are marginal. Keep this up!
Believe me , THIS IS THE BESTTTTTTT COMPARISON IVE EVER SEEE !!!
I hope u can make more videos like this , coz now i want to buy some macbook , that m3 macb seems odd for me
N those reviewer nowdays just act like apple sales
😑🤦🤦
Very very helpful. Most importantly, highly relevant for just video editing. Most comparisons contains way too many benchmarks and other things. I knew some of those didn't apply to me but I had no idea by how much. Your video really answered this question for me! By the way, I saw you tested at 8X speed the scrubbing/playback was identical. What do you think for 30-40X speed (1080P 30FPS H264 IPB)? Do you think M1 Max would playback smoother than M1 Pro? For that fast I usually do photo timelapse but sometimes I need to record it in video format. Currently my basic M1 would not play it at all.
From what i could tell the biggest different came from upgrading the m1 to m1 pro or max. there was less of a performance jump between the pro and max. Its possible that apple optimized the max chip better over the last year and a half since i tested the computers. but i think that my original statement would mostly hold true. that you will see the biggest performance increase going from the base m1, to the m1 pro. and than only a slight improvement to the m1 max.
@@TymekStolarz thanks for the feedback!
Awesome!
But I do wish you were able to include ProRes Raw tests as well…
Hey there, I am sorry about that - I personally dont use it in my workflow which is why i didnt include it. but may do an additional video including it in the future. If i were to have to assume i believe prores would preform quite a bit better than the codecs i tested.
Great video… question is rendering on external ssd drive slower than these renders above?
Thanks :) i have never had an external storage be faster than internal, but i've personally never owned a large assortment of SSDs. i've always been under the impression that internal will always be faster than external, but i've recently started to see people discuss in forums that they exclusively use some ssds for their projects that are just as fast.
Thank you!! Most of us are looking for the same test with Davinci and Premiere😔
Not a problem :) unfortunately i dont use the software or else i probably would make the comparison. Although i would imagine that the differences between each machine would be at least similar. creating the same projects in each and seeing how fast final cut pro is on one of the macs, compared to PP or Davinci would be interesting though.
Interesting results. From all the other tests we saw, the Max should have been better. I know Apple’s software are optimized for their hardware however, unless there are some portion of the CPU and GPU that aren’t being activated, the close results seems off. The Pro machine is a good overall machine for most people, the Max is that next level machine that professionals want.
And that’s what I thought the max was going to be as well. I was very surprised with the results. I know there were some third party plugs in some of the tests but lots of the tests were just using native Final Cut Pro processes. There were a couple times the max pulled ahead but really not by a whole lot.
Great video. Are you going to do the same tests for M2 versions M1 Pro?
Haha unfortunately probably not. I do not plan to buy one and I can’t seem to find anyway to rent them, or else I totally would run these exact tests on all the macs to really see how they all preform against each other
@@TymekStolarz Apple has a return policy, that you can return in 15 or 30 days, I can't remember right now. So, no excuse! Your test are extremely meticulous.
Haha yes i am aware of the return policy but it can be abused which i have read can turn out poorly. if i was buying all their new computers and returning them, it would end up being a problem.
@@TymekStolarz then, you said you have an amazing channel where you test their products and your viewers and future apple consumers are incredible happy watching them before spending their money. Thanks for your time legend
Thank you
This was very helpful!
In MacBook Pro 14inch for video editing what would be your suggestion?
I would be curious to see stacked footage xavcs from the A74, say a 5 cam multicam around an hour long with some color grading, adjustment layer with lut, film grain, cropped to 2:35:1. Thanks though, this was really interesting!
Maybe the Max would finally pull a head for that kind of test haha. Personally I dont do a lot of multi-cam or long shoots like that, so its why i didnt include those type of tests.
@@TymekStolarz I do weddings, but it could also come in handy for interviews as well. So I got the Max, which I am waiting on. But I really appreciate your tests!
Fair enough. Both great computers either way.
I'm assuming the 16 Inch macbook pros are gonna work and have less of a noticeable different in power between the M1 PRO and M1 MAX than a 14 Inch M1 PRO, right? The 16 inch honestly just seems a bit big for me lol... but if the performance would be worse on a 14 Inch, I'd consider it
from what i've seen in other tests, the 14 inch does perform a little bit worse their exact 16 inch counterparts. that they throttle performance to keep heat down or something like that. but then you just have to decide whats more important to you: more compact, or a little more performance.
Hey! Thank your for this kind of usefully video. One moment needs to be improved.it’s better to align min units. For example: not 1.97min, but 1 min 58 sec. Minute has 60 seconds, not 100! It’s easier for people to compare apples 🍏 with apples 🍏
Tymek Stolarz can you please help me out I have M1 Max and my render speeds are significantly slower compared to yours.
Rendering only basic GoPro video is taking me longer than the video length. For example 4k60 fps h.264 10 min long rendering in 13-15 min only the video with no effects at all.
We can jump in in a quick call with screen share and do some tests.
I would be very grateful if you can help me out with this.
thanks keep up the good work
The only thing i can think of is the go pro video format may be the one that is giving you trouble. if you have access to another camera with different video formats it would be easier to test. but as u can see in the video h.265 would render the fastest. besides that i honestly dont know what else it could be and getting in contact with apple would be ur best bet.
I enter a channel with a "Polish sounding name" and here the man speaks English: D After all, I start watching. Greetings from Norway, Paweł.
Haha. Well everyone says I have a slight polish accent as well, do you think so?
@@TymekStolarz It's hard to say. Rather, if it wasn't for the name of the channel, I wouldn't have come up with the idea that you have a Polish accent. If I had figured it out myself, the accent is definitely not the first thing that would reveal your origin. You may as well be a child of immigrants who came from Poland to Canada and you have never spoken Polish anywhere except at home. Tell the truth if you are agree for it: D It does not matter much to me because I watch the channel because of the content, but it's nice if another compatriot is successful on YT...
I just want to say one thing. All UA-camrs for some reason prefer showing the tests on FCPX. Well FCP and MacOS works absolutely fine even on my 5 year old MacBooks! Please make some tests on Premiere, Da vinci, After effects or Avid but not apple proprietary softwares, thanks!
I’m not sure about others but I personally only use Final Cut Pro, so that’s why I only do my tests on it
great i feel like you got a lemon or something or i got RIPPEDOFF LOL
I thought about it to be honest, or that somehow they had sold me a PRO with 16 gpu cores. but I think if things were not functioning properly, with the m1 max, it would have shown in other ways through using it. And i also verified in the system report that it was in fact a 32 gpu.
Its definitely not the results i was expecting at all.
i did a mistake i bought 32 gb M1 max i thought they both have same battery timing but M1 pro with 16 gb ram have 16 hour battery timing and Max have 8-10 hour
Im gonna go nuts by watching this videos!!
I have M1 Max and rendering 4k 60 fps on h.264 video 10 min long is taking me over 10 min to render it out.
Is it that I have a problem with my Mac or I'm I missing on some settings??
If anyone could help me would be great..
Also after doing some jump cuts in 4k 60 fps GoPro7 video it drops frames and can't play it in real time..
I have no idea what's going on.
My Mac is M1 Max with 2tb ssd and yes I did buy the FCPX program. It's not the trail version.
Anyone can help ?
its tough to say unfortunately. as you could see from my tests the m1 max excelled at some things, but was quite a bit slower than the older intel imac i also tested. and then ofcourse its really unfortunate to see how basically the same m1 max and m1 pro performed. unfortunately there is no settings to change that'll make things go faster. the only thing you can do is make sure all your programs and your operating system is up to date.
Hello !
Today I had a proposal to upgrade macbook pro 16" m1 pro 16gb ram 16gpu / ssd 1T to macbook pro M1 Max 32gb ram / 32gpu / ssd 1T.
I decided to find out the difference to upgrade for 600 USD at the moment.
I watched all your videos and I think I should use 600 USD to upgrade an LG 4K 27" screen + 2T SSD to better serve my work instead of upgrading to M1 Max.
Wishing you success and have a good day!
prettyy awesome, almost destroys my 5900x desktop cpu. wild
haha which is crazy. all the while being relatively quite and running cool.
You saved a lot of yours viewers money 😂🙌👏
haha i hope so.
This video just saved me thousands of dollars. The difference is not worth the higher price tag.
Thats awesome! I am very glad you found it then haha. I would definitely agree with you. Not worth the massive bump up in price.
And what about Davinci Resolve?
Unfortunately given that I personally don't use it, it was not part of my tests. however based off of what I've seen from numerous of other creators, Davinci appears to be quite fast and edit very well.
how much memory ram has the m1 pro Mac?
the M1 PRO i tested had half the RAM the M1 MAX had, so 16GB.
Hey if any one could tell which have battery backup more M1 PRO VS M1 MAX
Battery back up - as in which one has more battery life? they would be roughly the same but if you were doing tasks like video editing, the M1 max working a little harder might drain the battery faster.
@@TymekStolarz If we are not doing any heavy task like only watching movies or youtube then would both pro and pro max would have same backup
Just subscribe to your channel I don’t wanna wait for the m1 max 16 will the m1 pro be fine editing music videos wit luts and effect stacked and fonts basically will the M1 pro get the job done it’s $250 off at Best Buy’s right now thank you can you tell me what you would do Wait too much for the M1 Max or get the M1 pro right now 16 inch
Hopefully you ended up getting the Pro! because as you can see its a very capable laptop for cheaper!
Only I can think about those results is the lack of optimization to M1 Max chips of FCPX and he cannot manage to keep all the resouorces busy or.. (only God knows) if there's some kind of sandbagging flag.
optimization could have been the problem - i did run these tests only a few months after the max was released. however i ran the exact same tests on all the computers, no funny business - i make no gain by altering the results.
Wait a minute... What?!
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I don't know. I would just save the $1,000 and upgrade every 18 months to a new one.
it would be worth it if there was an actual upgrade, but there isnt haha. in this case saving that 1,000 for the next generation is the way to go for sure.
@@TymekStolarz latest is that M2 M2 pros come in 2023
Yea. im waiting for what ever they end up releasing in the iMac Pro or Mac Pro.
I wonder why video content creators continue to buy the m1 max? Espcially the 64gb ram version as those have a 2 month back order.
Well personally i thought it was going to be one of the strongest computers Apple had made, and I am assuming others think the same. I never expected to see the results I ended up seeing during my tests. Yea its definitely a long wait - I put my order in on Nov 9, and didn't get it until Dec 20.
Now the M1 Max w 64 GB ram can be found new for $2300. The base M1 pro about $1700. Saving us all $$ for a new RF lens to have for a decade