M1 Pro vs M1 Max - Don't Pick WRONG!

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  • Should you get the M1 Pro or M1 Max MacBook Pro?
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    Despite all the reviews, all the recommendations, all the benchmark LARP, it still seems just super hard, really an inconvenience to get a simple, straight, easy-to-understand answer on whether you should get the M1 Pro or M1 Max MacBook Pro and why. Battery life vs. performance. Portability vs. power. All the things. Well, I’m going to give you that answer!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 332

  • @ReneRitchie
    @ReneRitchie  2 роки тому +5

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    • @ISmokeI
      @ISmokeI 2 роки тому

      What do you think can go toe to toe with the m1 max chips that isn't an apple product, while on battery?

    • @patrickwuschko9780
      @patrickwuschko9780 2 роки тому

      You didn’t heared bout Neutrino what?

  • @tmbflyer
    @tmbflyer 2 роки тому +248

    I realize most apple tech reviewers never have to worry about using old mac’s as a daily driver, but the reason I am buying the M1 Max is because I plan to use it for the next 5 to 7 years at least. I am on my 3rd MacBook and average 6 years between each. It is nice to have someone talk about the future proofing potential out of the M1 Max.

    • @cuddlesxu5208
      @cuddlesxu5208 2 роки тому +20

      Totally! My old MacBook is Early 2013 15.4'' MBP. I used it nearly every day during the past 9 years since bought. It still works fine for lite work, but slow for video editing and photography retouching workflow. So I recently bought a 16'' brand new with M1 Max, 64GB RAM, 4TB SSD for the future 10 years.

    • @arvinsim
      @arvinsim 2 роки тому +15

      Until we get FaceID and better performance on the new Macbooks. Then your "keep it for 5 to 7 years" defense will crumble and you will give in and buy one.
      Don't try to future proof your machine and buy what you need today.

    • @Vaptomwen
      @Vaptomwen 2 роки тому +2

      Most tech reviewers don’t use a lot of things going by the amount of devices used as a daily drivers. Often there’s also a noticeable difference between their loaner products & those who actually own them. No warranty worries , no protection, no screen protector & so on

    • @jw_au
      @jw_au 2 роки тому +4

      Agree, same reason to bump up the RAM…

    • @michelkant
      @michelkant 2 роки тому +4

      Your reply beats the sense out of nearly every video about this subject.
      Long term: prepare for the future.
      Short term: keep some money to yourself

  • @cahenglish
    @cahenglish 2 роки тому +37

    "If you're doing music with a ton of plugins..." Thank you, Rene! It is so seldom that anything other than video rendering is mentioned in reviews like this.

  • @bolttracks
    @bolttracks 2 роки тому +13

    Long story short: if you even need to ask yourself whether you need the M1 Max then you don’t.

  • @CasualViewer-t4f
    @CasualViewer-t4f 2 роки тому +68

    I know a lot of pro’s that use M1’s, myself included. I simply don’t have the workload to fully leverage what the M1 Pro has to offer. Which is great! Apple has blurred the lines of what is pro and what is consumer grade products. The good news for everyone is the once consumer priced products are now pro-viable options depending on what you need.

    • @roguewavecreative
      @roguewavecreative 2 роки тому +3

      You pretty much nailed it. We have an ad agency and were using MacBook airs to run Adobe creative cloud no problem. Yes of course some people need more. The thing that I find very light not very genuine is Renee talking about battery life. Of course the pro in the promax is not gonna have the same battery life unplugged. The problem is how Apple presents it like it is going to I have friends that have the pro in the max and it just doesn’t last as long as the air or the MacBook Pro 13 inch it’s just not going to but you shouldn’t say that I could do some thing I mean who is going to buy a Max or a pro to just search the web. Now I say that and of course a lot of people would. My point is is that I just think it’s a little got a hate using the word disingenuous by I think it’s very weird to compare those two. And also I agree with you they have blurred lines but I think that’s a good thing because I don’t think the majority of people really need the max or the pro. Yes it’s faster but how much faster. Yes I know it’s a lot faster but for most people I would guess easily in the 80 to low 90% range you can do work that you get paid for on the M1 air and the 13 inch MacBook Pro or the M1 iMac and you are more than fine

    • @bgimusic
      @bgimusic 2 роки тому +2

      @Jaquan Kelsor If you're a pro who needs the better screen for pro photo/video work, you'll know. If you need better 3D graphics renders, you'll know. M1 is amazing, but not if you're using Blender for anything 3D. You can definitely do video on M1, but if you depend on that for your income and do many in rotation you can use the extra speed of the MacBook Pro.

    • @bgimusic
      @bgimusic 2 роки тому +1

      @@roguewavecreative don't let the Pro name determine your enjoyment of a product. You are a pro, but design is not as CPU intensive as video or 3D. I know some of pros who make a full income working on 2012 MacBooks :o. The M1 laptops have P3 displays. They are so color accurate and great with contrast. If you need to make HDR content you may enjoy the pro more tho. Don't let the name fool you. The 2020 Macbook Air M1 keynote included pros for a reason. And these people need to know what they are buying. There are more efficiency cores on the M1. There are more performance cores on M1 Pro/M1 Max than efficiency cores so yes the battery life is different, but tasks are being completed faster even if not explicitly noticed. Another thing is they are not lying. They are not claiming battery is the same on the Pros. They are talking efficiency and performance per watt. 🤍💡

    • @conradofmc_ny6706
      @conradofmc_ny6706 2 роки тому

      @Jaquan Kelsor people are never happy, when apple was departing from professional computer (like when it started) people say apple was terrible for doing this, now they go back,,, then apple is terrible for doing it..

    • @carloisidoresalcedo6325
      @carloisidoresalcedo6325 2 роки тому

      @Jaquan Kelsor Well, capitalism is doing us a lot good dont you think?

  • @togeika
    @togeika 2 роки тому +17

    I'm extremely happy with my Mini M1 16gb for editing 360 video. It is the main reason I bought it. The current laptop dilemma is amusing, but nothing that applies to me.

    • @cevisuals
      @cevisuals 2 роки тому +1

      EXACTLY...

    • @classicaloracle
      @classicaloracle 2 роки тому +1

      These videos pop up as recommendations but I note there are rarely any real-life clips. Few, if any people, need the computing power of these devices, including Ritchie himself. I agree with you, the M1 Mini is just fine and will cope easily with most 4k content needs. 8k is still silly right now and if your final cut timelines are that complicated you may be missing the point! The endless hype and bait-clicking really turns me off. No subscription from me.

  • @andymead7066
    @andymead7066 2 роки тому +7

    UPS lost the first M1-Max MBP 14 (32GB, 24GPU) that Apple shipped in late October. In the month it took me to get a replacement shipped, I watched a bunch of videos by you and other UA-camrs running different configurations through their paces. I'm a sports photographer, and the configuration is great for me and should be future proof for years to come.
    That said, In all the testing by you and others, I rarely saw you get the fans to kick in. I can make my MBP M1-Max sound like a hovercraft with this simple trick:
    Play Sid Meier's Civilization VI via Steam.
    Mid-game the fans are screaming. I got the laptop the day before a work trip. I didn't have time to set it up to use it, but I took it along to work on it in my down-time. Which included a cross country flight. Within two hours it was alerting me that the battery of my day-old MBP was getting low and that I should plug in (which I did). The game plays great, but it definitely works the machine hard.

    • @cameronf3343
      @cameronf3343 2 роки тому

      Games more intense than internet flash games or mind-passifying App Store games should never be played on a laptop. You can absolutely expect something so advanced as Civilization VI to drain the battery rapidly no matter what laptop it is. While the GPUs are impressive, all Apple laptops are still optimized for productivity tasks which make high use of CPUs over GPUs. There are gaming laptops out there but the majority of them still also last less than 2-3 hours a charge when playing. No laptop will ever be viable for demanding gaming until an immense battery innovation and rollout is achieved. GPUs are simply too demanding of hardware.

  • @CraigCruden
    @CraigCruden 2 роки тому +16

    The decision was simple for me... I like and have a 3 monitor setup... Pro was not an option. The only decision was really 24 vs 32 cores on the GPU and at that point, that was a small difference - not worth thinking too much about - just do it.

    • @Spidouz
      @Spidouz 2 роки тому

      Almost the same for me, I need 64GB RAM, so Pro was not an option neither. And I need 8TB Storage too, so the only decision was also between 24 or 32 core GPU, mainly since I don’t really do any intense video work, or 3D tasks, but it was only 200 bucks difference, so at this point it doesn’t even really matter when we’re on point to drop 7 grand… so I went with 32 core GPU.

    • @bolttracks
      @bolttracks 2 роки тому +2

      @@Spidouz sooooo what do you need the 8 TB for then???

    • @AlexSchwartzATV
      @AlexSchwartzATV 2 роки тому +4

      i have 3 monitors with m1 pro and have no issues.

    • @kevinldaniel
      @kevinldaniel 2 роки тому

      ​@@AlexSchwartzATV Thanks! I've been searching for this.

    • @AlexSchwartzATV
      @AlexSchwartzATV 2 роки тому

      @@kevinldaniel Glad it helped. Ones 1080p, ones the 14inch MacBook screen, and the other is 1440p 34" ultrawide. 100-120hz on all of them.

  • @legendjxli1266
    @legendjxli1266 2 роки тому +1

    So i just finished with Highschool. I want to go to Graphics Design Uni next year. In my years at Highschool i learned how to code etc. But i want to switch to Design. Now that my Laptop recently died i need a new one. I decided to go for a MacBook Pro 16“ as i love the big Trackpad, the better Battery and the better heat management.
    I asked the uni what they require (specs). They said MacBook with M1 Chip, 16GB (better 32GB) RAM and 512GB (better 1TB) SSD.
    I will plug in 2-3 external monitors. I guess for now 2 should be fine but maybe in a few months or years i want a 3rd (they most likely will be 4k monitors). As i often work with 5-8 open programms that i all use at the same time.
    I will be working with normal things graphic designers do (photoshop, illustrator, xd, also webdevelopmemt and UI), besides that i will be cutting 4k videos for a sidejob. So it could easiely be the case that i just finished a Video and export it. Next to exporting i listen to music and work for uni (graphic things). Also i want to go a bit future proof due to the fact that i want to use this MacBook for about 6-7 years i would say, maybe even more. So i definitly dont want to get a new one in 3 years. Thats why its so hard for me to get the right specs. Can someone help me out or share their experience. Im just getting into graphics design. So idk how much performance all these adobe programms require. Im not rly on a budget but i dont want to waste my money. I see this as an investetment for my school carreer, my first job, etc.

  • @kkkkkk-zd7te
    @kkkkkk-zd7te Рік тому +2

    says a lot without saying anything :DD

  • @davidalan6701
    @davidalan6701 2 роки тому +57

    My 2012 MacBook Pro has essentially been working for just about a decade, but I haven’t been able to use it professionally for about 3-4 years. I was going to upgrade in 2020, until the rumors of what we now now as M1 was coming. Now, I’m rewarding my patience by getting a fully maxed out M1 Max, and just being able to use a personal laptop professionally again is going to make all the difference, and I bet I can make it pay for itself. If it lasts anywhere close to as long as my last one, I’ll be thrilled, and I’ll be shocked if it doesn’t.

    • @roguewavecreative
      @roguewavecreative 2 роки тому

      There is absolutely no reason unless you do logos for $10 that you can’t pay for that in no time at all. Andy Clark who is really well-known I’d say he’s more website developer than a Designer although it is both tweets all the time about he cannot believe how great the Apple M1 maxes. It’s an amazing machine that being said I have an ad agency and were using MacBook airs an M1 IMAX and we are having no problems with anything. I really think it comes down to you know can I do this faster and you know there are some people that need all that power but the majority of people don’t need it. They really don’t really don

    • @sgeggbub1008
      @sgeggbub1008 2 роки тому +2

      @@roguewavecreative In 10 years time though, the regular m1 and the m1 Max could be the difference between a slowish performing laptop, and still a speedy one. Only time will tell

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica 2 роки тому +2

      My friend who isn’t tech savvy had the choice between buying my 2016 Touchbar and a new M1 powered MacBook Pro using my corporate discount, he instead went and bought a $2200 pre-owned 2020 intel MacBook Pro a month ago. I tried to get him to return it, but he said he likes it. I face palm 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica 2 роки тому

      What kind of work do you do? My MacBooks go several years but they pay for themselves 100x+ over in that lifespan. My biggest motivation for getting new is not faster render times, etc, it’s user experience. Scrubbing through 4K vids smoothly, running tons of photoshop actions, having your adjustment be visible instantly makes the work much more enjoyable. My 2016 Touch Bar will play 4 seconds of 4K before stopping, you just can’t edit like that

    • @AllWordsAreDust
      @AllWordsAreDust Рік тому

      Does it have a HDD or SSD?
      I had a 2012 15" pro with HDD and dedicated graphics and it was a bit of a disappointment performance wise and only lasted 3 years.
      My 2017 13" integrated graphics pro (cheapest in the pro range at the time iirc) felt like a HUGE performance upgrade, likely due to the SSD, while being much more portable and is still going strong with 5+ years of hard daily use (albeit with two battery replacements so far).

  • @FoxxFire
    @FoxxFire 2 роки тому +7

    Man oh man, I love these videos. I don't feel like I've ever finished a video from this channel and haven't found myself better informed. I think that's the best compliment I can give to any creator, and this one certainly deserves it.

    • @ReneRitchie
      @ReneRitchie  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks so much, means a lot! Any videos you'd like to see next?

  • @sirclarencedarrow
    @sirclarencedarrow 2 роки тому +4

    My last MacBook Pro, a 17" MacBook Pro, lasted for a decade, and I hope that my 16" Max with 64 GB RAM will last for another 10 years.

  • @izio4408
    @izio4408 2 роки тому +3

    I got a 16 gb of ram. Just wasn't down to wait 2 months for my laptop and 32 ram is probably over kill eanyway

  • @patrickforan6458
    @patrickforan6458 2 роки тому +6

    Really feeling that "longevity" comment. I have a 2008 MacBook Pro (Core2Duo, upgraded to 6GB RAM and SSD) that was my daily driver for 10 years. I use multiple computers now, but I still use the 2008 pretty much daily and it holds up so well. Just ordered the 16" Max; hopefully it keeps the flame burning until 2032!

  • @frankie-tr6gf
    @frankie-tr6gf 2 роки тому +1

    I’m not deaf and your hands are extremely distracting 👋👀🤚

  • @wamote6867
    @wamote6867 2 роки тому +1

    Same talk packed in a new video - its getting harder and harder to fill the 10 min with news.

  • @drsuppan
    @drsuppan 2 роки тому +4

    Here is a straight answer. If you use Davinci Resolve go for Max with 32 cores. DR uses all the cores, you will see it in functions like stabalising

  • @reecea5432
    @reecea5432 2 роки тому +5

    Got the 14 inch M1 Pro 16 GPU and 32GB RAM. Really overkill for me but I am loving working on the device without it turning into a wind turbine or a lap heater coming from an i9 16inch. Hopefully will have this for a good 5 years or so without FOMO kicking in.

    • @TheRealMrIncognito
      @TheRealMrIncognito 2 роки тому

      Hi i am still considering 16gb or 32gb.. Do you think its needed to get 32gb?

    • @aktn_p1kaso830
      @aktn_p1kaso830 2 роки тому

      @@TheRealMrIncognito it entirely depends on your workload and what you need for now and maybe over the next couple years. If you’re using a multitude of applications that really weigh on any given machine then you’ll know if 16/32 is better for you.

  • @philipmcdonnell7168
    @philipmcdonnell7168 2 роки тому +5

    I decided the 64Gb M1Max Pro with the basic 1Tb drive would suit me best. My MBP mid-2012 has only just started to fail to be sufficient from a RAM point of view and (rendering) speed. So, this just confirms I'm making the best investment for the next 5-10 years. Thankyou.

    • @WorldvsTruth
      @WorldvsTruth 2 роки тому +1

      Good job. I'll likely be getting the same specs unit, as I've enough external storage to back up anything of serious importance. Also - I don't want to put any more money or work into my MacPro 8-core 50lb beast - time to sell it off and lighten up. Moreover, my late 2011 MBP really is late - as of October 2021. I'm sure your new MBP will serve you well for several years, since clearly you take good care of your hardware.

    • @bluseisthe
      @bluseisthe 2 роки тому +2

      I got the same configuration

  • @LittleMountainLife
    @LittleMountainLife 2 роки тому +14

    I’m pretty happy with my 14” M1Max. 🤷🏼‍♂️ It’s plugged in 99% of the time but it’s nice to have the option to take it just about anywhere with its smaller size.
    And I feel like it’s a solid investment future proofing my laptop needs for 5+ years.

    • @savedbybravado4382
      @savedbybravado4382 2 роки тому +1

      Have you ever kept a work computer for more than 5 years prior to this one?

    • @hoagy_ytfc
      @hoagy_ytfc 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly the same here. I think the M1 Pro would probably have been enough for me, TBH - I need CPU more than I need GPU. But the M1 Max, 64GB 2TB model was a stock item in UK stores, so I could get that one immediately when most configs were on a six week delay.

    • @LittleMountainLife
      @LittleMountainLife 2 роки тому +1

      @@hoagy_ytfc yeah good point and I also had stocking issues and was kind of forced to get the max if I wanted it quickly.

    • @LittleMountainLife
      @LittleMountainLife 2 роки тому +1

      @@savedbybravado4382 4 years is max until now.

  • @platin2148
    @platin2148 2 роки тому +4

    I got it because if wanted a new macbook after 7 years using the 2014 one. I bought the max because if want to maybe keep it for 3 to maybe even another 7 years. I got 32gb RAM because 16gb is sort of standard now so getting a bit more for future. I took the 16“ because i had the 13“ before and that always was a bit of a problem with screen space.
    I do mostly programming with 3d stuff as i made maybe clear in other comments. I might do in future videos on programming so having these media encoders as long as i don’t directly use it in one of my programs can really help to get these things processed quickly.
    What i made also maybe clear in comments under other videos is that we shouldn’t expect it to beat a Asus Zapahrus or something like that in Performance. But that’s ultimately not really interesting anyways for my use cases. Being honest about performance and seeing the difference between that and PPW is definitely a key thing.

    • @ReneRitchie
      @ReneRitchie  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, 16 is a good base for the MacBook Pro but I still like matching RAM with cores, so 32 GB feeding 32 GPU just feels balanced to me 🤣

  • @TechnoLawyer
    @TechnoLawyer 2 роки тому +2

    I hate that my use case is so simple. Office 365, browsing, zoom/teams, ms remote desktop. Shut up, buy a base model m1 air, use my iPad in sidecar to expand screen real estate on the go, use external monitors for home/office, now shut up and let the people with real workflows discuss.
    😔

    • @scottstewart5784
      @scottstewart5784 2 роки тому

      That's me to a tee. I have a 2020 M1 Air 8GB/500GB. I can "afford" to get an M1 Max or M1 Pro, but I can't justify it. The M1 Air is the fastest machine I've ever had. There is nothing I do on it that needs to be any faster. Of course, I'll find a reason to trade up when the new M"x" laptop is out in 4 years or so.

    • @TechnoLawyer
      @TechnoLawyer 2 роки тому +1

      @@scottstewart5784 I'm on a ryzen 9 based windows laptop running w11. For my simple workflow, it is overkill. Everything is instant.
      But dammit I've been wanting to switch back to a Mac. And my laptop is a gaming laptop, I'm kind of tired of lugging it around (even if it is one of the smaller ones), and I don't like the screen (16:9 1080p = barf for office work). I have it paired with a Fold 3.
      What I really want is an updated air. M2, 16gb/512gb, mini led with similar tiny bezels as an xps13, and the webcam and mics off the new pro.
      Pair it with a standard iPhone 14 to save pocket space (assuming it gets 120hz, if it doesn't, pair with a pro), and get a hopefully to be released ipad mini pro (take the current mini and add 120hz please) for use at home. I can't give up the Fold 3 until the mini gets 120hz. I've used them side by side and browsing on the mini is painful in comparison.

  • @ArthurET
    @ArthurET 2 роки тому +3

    The pitch meeting reference at the beginning 👏😂

  • @andrewshortt4665
    @andrewshortt4665 2 роки тому +2

    5:58 this is a perfect example why I don’t watch many of your videos. 😂

  • @ed_ms
    @ed_ms 2 роки тому +3

    Those new M1 Pro's and Max are way more powerful than most of the people need, even for the years to come. A 2020 M1 still remains a great choice for many: portable, powerful and very good battery life. Unless you plan on maxing out a 2020 M1, than it might be smarter to look for an M1 pro, you'll get more bang for your buck.

  • @SithTracy
    @SithTracy 2 роки тому +13

    I elected to go with non-binned M1Pro w 32GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD. It made sense to me since I am coming from a 2014 i7 15" MBP that was spec'd out (3800 US at the time). I wanted smaller and I figured this was a huge upgrade from that system. And to me, AArch64 is still a gamble, but one worth taking as I feel x86-64 has not really been impressive the last few years. I think this Mac is great (Monterey, not so much, yet). I figured this will get me through the next couple of years and perhaps Apple will sell a unit I want with the ports and perhaps, in addition to internal expensive storage, they through in a NVMe slot to add storage internally. I do very light video work, but mostly photography (Capture One/Affinity as I dumped Adobe a few years ago). I hope in two years time these machines give us more.

  • @DanielandYuka
    @DanielandYuka 2 роки тому +2

    Ordered a 16” M1 Max with 64GB Ram and 8TB SSD, and it FINALLY arrived 2 days ago… This thing is a beast with exporting and encoding video from Final Cut Pro, The speakers and screen are amazing! Upgraded from a 2018 Intel MBP i9 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD… night and day!

  • @benjhaisch
    @benjhaisch 2 роки тому +2

    This is still what I’ve been waiting for

  • @seankenno7
    @seankenno7 2 роки тому +2

    Another perfectly placed Ryan George shoutout

  • @MightyRob1
    @MightyRob1 2 роки тому +2

    It would seem that the M1 MBP is a Porsche 911, and the M1 Pro is a Lamborghini, and the M1 Max is a Bugatti... Performance and fuel economy included

    • @azstmpr
      @azstmpr 2 роки тому +1

      Or a 911 Turbo S, GT3 and GT2RS. 🤑

  • @DontGetDroppedCycling
    @DontGetDroppedCycling 2 роки тому +18

    Glad I purchased the 16” Pro base and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! My hr long race videos exporting in 10 minutes without the laptop taking off still BLOWS my mind a month later! Keep up the great work!

    • @alvinfrancis776
      @alvinfrancis776 2 роки тому

      Did you encounter mac os bugs?

    • @DontGetDroppedCycling
      @DontGetDroppedCycling 2 роки тому +1

      @@alvinfrancis776 a couple of beach balls here and there while closing programs but I’m sure subsequent OS releases should fix the problems.

    • @ryanw8664
      @ryanw8664 2 роки тому

      @@alvinfrancis776 Final Cut Pro and Microsoft Outlook have crashed on me a couple of times. Kernel panic repeatedly when watching UA-cam HDR. iPad keeps freezing in sidecar mode. Otherwise been great! /s

    • @StefanUrkel
      @StefanUrkel 2 роки тому +3

      @@ryanw8664 Apple needs to slow down on its OS releases and get them solid before release. This seems to be all too common lately. Maybe it's the status quo there, not sure, as I haven't always been following their OS releases & bugs that closely.

    • @zakiradi450
      @zakiradi450 2 роки тому

      @@ryanw8664 same here. Final cut Pro has crashed a few times on my M1 pro.

  • @mikekaylor1226
    @mikekaylor1226 2 роки тому +3

    You are the absolutely the Apple authority for Mac geeks on the web. I'm very thankful that we have you around to do all of this back breaking research. Thank You

    • @ReneRitchie
      @ReneRitchie  2 роки тому +1

      Oh wow, thanks so much! What video would you like to see next?

  • @dlroberts20020
    @dlroberts20020 2 роки тому

    The question is should I get the M1 pro over the M1 Max. that’s a yes or no question. Or should I get the M1 pro over the M1 Max. That is an either or question. the answer that this person gives is unclear and convoluted. sometimes people spend more time trying to sound intelligent versus being simple and that’s a negative

  • @maxwell-cole
    @maxwell-cole 2 роки тому +2

    Another great video. Very informative. I had a fully Maxed out Max and realized it was overkill. I agree with you. It’s ridiculously fast!

  • @MarsorryIckuatuna
    @MarsorryIckuatuna 2 роки тому +1

    Yep, he said Pro Max, but that’s Apples fault, coz, iPhone!

  • @مفروشاتالاناقةالبداوي

    Thank you for the valuable information,it's a great device .How much I dream of, but it's expensive, as a matter of help , whether you have a used MacBook or an old generation that you want to do without ,I need it and thank you ,and allow me to intrude on you😉

  • @fivesixgeek
    @fivesixgeek 2 роки тому +2

    I think the lineup couldn't be more clear to choose between professional vs maintream consumer. People who couldn't stop debating which one to buy are people who simply just like to buy things more than their needs but limited budget, a.k.a enthusiast in a budget. Harsh, but that's reality.

    • @ghost-user559
      @ghost-user559 2 роки тому

      Also longevity though. It actually makes sense for a mainstream consumer to max out a computer if they won’t update it for 6-10 years. Definitely depends on use case, but everything from simple websites to video renders becoming more intensive means even a casual needs to consider a 5-10 year jump in computing needs.

  • @ThreeTwentyTech
    @ThreeTwentyTech 2 роки тому +2

    Should you buy the M1 Pro or M1 Max?
    Rene: *Yes*

  • @JanineMKartist
    @JanineMKartist 2 роки тому +1

    I'm loving mine but it anyone finding trackpad scrolling sluggish? It glides with the Magic Mouse but feels sluggish and sticky with the trackpad? time or a Genius Bar visit maybe?

  • @Ryan-zc1tz
    @Ryan-zc1tz 2 роки тому

    Future proofing is impossible and a completely pointless thing to try to do. The highest end model now will be irrelevant in 3 years. Functional, but irrelevant.

  • @dotapark
    @dotapark 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for the video. I think I should get 16 inch and M1 Pro. Now I have to think about ram and storage.

    • @ReneRitchie
      @ReneRitchie  2 роки тому +4

      16 GB of RAM is my base recommendation. If you're doing heavy workloads, you'll know you need more. For storage, typically get double what you have now, because storage creep is real and having to live on external drives on a laptop low-key sucks.

    • @dotapark
      @dotapark 2 роки тому +1

      @@ReneRitchie I think I need more than 16GB ram based on my experience with M1…also I’m thinking 2TB storage so, maybe I have to choose between storage and ram upgrade. Thank you for the detailed advice. 😊

    • @TheNordicHunter
      @TheNordicHunter 2 роки тому

      @@ReneRitchie I’m at a crossroads right now I have a base M1 MBA and my son wants to buy it for school, web business, and doing UA-cam videos. So I have the opportunity to buy a new machine again. I’m torn on 16/32, 14/16, and waiting for a spring desktop. Currently use PS, InDesign, Blender, and hopefully Resolve soon. I really don’t go anywhere currently, but I thought it would be nice in case I did visit a friend or enter a LDR. Help please?

  • @samguapo4573
    @samguapo4573 2 роки тому +2

    5 years? Bro. I'm using 2010 MBA :) and still loving it.

    • @ahmoylaw8905
      @ahmoylaw8905 2 роки тому

      Same here, still rocking with my mba 2012!!!

  • @PraShaantHnkOfficial
    @PraShaantHnkOfficial Рік тому

    Man you are a life saver literally!!!
    I’m going with M1 Max Because of this man with Golden heart ❤️
    Thank you 😊

  • @GPS379
    @GPS379 2 роки тому +2

    I bought M1 pro base model and its awesome

  • @MoisesBowe
    @MoisesBowe 2 роки тому +2

    I bought the 16” M1 Max 64gb RAM 2tb SSD !
    I can’t wait for it to arrive!

  • @dheemanthuppalapati
    @dheemanthuppalapati 2 роки тому

    talk about how other videos talk a lot of fluff and not give a simple answer for almost half the video. Oh the irony.

  • @jimtipton8888
    @jimtipton8888 2 роки тому +2

    I went with the Max because I'm a Red Bull fan!

  • @FoxxFire
    @FoxxFire 2 роки тому +1

    "I am not going to not not say it also." Lol I love your plays on words, Rene, but my uncaffeinated brain is not ready for that one yet.

  • @romeorb8166
    @romeorb8166 Рік тому

    Thanks, this review open my eye more about which MacBook to buy,

  • @dimitrimoonlight
    @dimitrimoonlight 2 роки тому +1

    If it's battery life is 1st priority, get Mac book pro 13 hahaha 🤣

  • @TimWard-v6e
    @TimWard-v6e 2 роки тому

    so what about the people that only play some games and surf the web would we need 16" max one ??

  • @ggpaghi2990
    @ggpaghi2990 2 роки тому +1

    First video that I watch from you.
    As a matter of fact I’ve just purchased a Pro Max 32 core GPU, 16”…
    My choice was based on experience. I am using a MacBook Pro 17” dual core mid2010. It still works. The only issue is that the new adobe suite won’t upgrade fully. I’m 55 and if this new machine last as much as the one it replaces, it should more or less outlive me. As you say in your closure “I buy what I need ad what I can afford”. With the insane race to megapixels, plus all the computational aids from camera manufactures, these devices will produce insanely heavy files. And that is before using Adobe Photoshop’s layers!

  • @colinstock325
    @colinstock325 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 16gb M1 mini with 512gb internal ssd. Should I want a laptop then the M1 MacBook Air is likely to suit me the most or at a stretch the 14 inch M1 pro MacBook.

  • @anothernumber9753
    @anothernumber9753 2 роки тому +1

    I got the 14 inch because I felt like the 16 inch was just too big and I got the 32 core M1 pro because 16 gb ram was not going to cut it my computer would usually use 24 with regular plus swap but I don’t do graphically intensive stuff so I didn’t get the max.

  • @MrStLime
    @MrStLime 2 роки тому

    Семен Слепаков понял, что в РФ нечего ловить, и стал англоязычным техноблогером

  • @cheesun124
    @cheesun124 2 роки тому +1

    Its basically going to be my desktop, so 16" Max for future proofing I hope.

  • @johnnyguzman2519
    @johnnyguzman2519 2 роки тому +1

    I’m a freshman, I’m starting college next month and I’ve never owned a laptop. I’m majoring in computer science and I don’t know if I should get the basic MacBook Pro 16” or get a cheap laptop and wait till next year MacBooks ? But I will waste the double or even more if I do that. Any recommendations?

    • @_hold_the_line_
      @_hold_the_line_ 2 роки тому

      Get the base 14 inch. You will hate carrying the 16 and the 13 inches haven't got enough screen real estate for coding.

  • @qwertyzxaszc6323
    @qwertyzxaszc6323 2 роки тому +2

    I put a lot of thought into my order. I eventually settled on the base model for two big reasons. Most 3d modeling software as well as music and video software which could really make use of the extra GPU cores have yet to be fully optimized for Apple Silicon. And two, ARM V9 is on the horizon and will able to handle more complex tasks than the current V8 M1 Macs. So While we wait for those two things, and all the dust has settled, possibly as early as next year, we would really be able to make good use of a far better MAX vs a Pro. Let’s remember, these are first gen Apple Silicon Macs.

    • @Kluttzv
      @Kluttzv 2 роки тому

      Exactly went with base M1 max 16 inch. I
      They’re probably going to last me more than 4 years for what I do but by then money isn’t an issue. Ima just keep this laptop until it starts underperforming compared to newer models

  • @RonVelvet
    @RonVelvet 2 роки тому

    So “hella” fast! Are you from the Bay Area?

  • @Lacrom23
    @Lacrom23 2 роки тому +1

    If I would want to support 2 external displays, will M1 PRO be enough? And if I don't use 100% of my GPU, will M1 MAX battery empty that fast?

    • @ReneRitchie
      @ReneRitchie  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, they both support two external displays. And even if not every GPU Core is being thrashed, they all still draw some amount of power, so they'll hit the battery slightly harder even when idle

  • @hypoluxa
    @hypoluxa 2 роки тому +2

    I bought the 16in M1Pro as is, and am quite happy with it. I haven't put it through any major paces but the battery life is great on it, and playing a few games I have has been good.

  • @rumar4u
    @rumar4u 2 роки тому +1

    I wanted the M1 Pro but with 64Gb RAM instead Apple forced me to stick with 32Gb as I don’t need that much speed from the M1 Max

    • @chillandhackwithjoel
      @chillandhackwithjoel 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah would love 64gb ram with the m1 pro.. it is a shame it is not possible

  • @MorbidGod391
    @MorbidGod391 2 роки тому

    Don’t pick wrong? I already did! 😂

  • @Whimsicallyhonest
    @Whimsicallyhonest 2 роки тому

    lol! how much macbook pro do u really need? 2:25

  • @troy_neilson
    @troy_neilson 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. It would be really nice to hear your thoughts relating to machine learning capabilities when describing Apple pro gear for those of us working in this space.

    • @ReneRitchie
      @ReneRitchie  2 роки тому +2

      There’s currently no differentiation between them. M1, M1 pro, and M1 Max all have the same A14-generation 16 core Apple Neural Engine, same Matrix multiplication accelerators on the CPU, and same machine learning controller. The only difference is the amount of GPUs if your particular machine learning happens to tickle those. Totally should’ve mentioned that, thanks for pointing it out!

  • @induction7895
    @induction7895 2 роки тому +6

    I got 16 inch Macbook Pro Max (eventhough I didn't need Max graphics). Here's how I ended up with this laptop. The configuration I was after was 16 inch with with 32 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD. Then I found out that Max models have double the memory bandwidth. I could have gotten the binned version of Max but since I am already spending that much money, what the hell, I got the 32 Core Max.

    • @fledgling5616
      @fledgling5616 2 роки тому

      Spam comment. This same exact comment was posted by a spam account above.

    • @fledgling5616
      @fledgling5616 2 роки тому

      @scripteaze the first one.

    • @fledgling5616
      @fledgling5616 2 роки тому

      @scripteaze sorry, I re-read my comment and it kinda sounded like I meant yours. My bad!

  • @sgill4833
    @sgill4833 2 роки тому +1

    best is 14" 32gb 24 core m1max with 1 tb

    • @sgill4833
      @sgill4833 2 роки тому

      I retract. M1 pro 16gb is more than enough.

  • @RealtyWebDesigners
    @RealtyWebDesigners 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with Renee the 16" Pro (not Max)

  • @profintech
    @profintech 2 роки тому

    Let me sum it up. Buy the model that you can possibly afford. And that would be the right choice. Every model is totally worth the money no matter what you do! Life example: used free Davinci Resolve on MacBook Pro m1 Max 64gb 8tb to edit one hour video. DV used 2.5tb ssd for cashing files and the Ram was maxed out. Edited 4K video with effects and no lagging video files were not optimised. Figma is RAM hungry as well. Streaming 4K 60fps while Paralles is running windows with unity app running. So yes use all the possible budget to get the most maxed out model you can afford

  • @bry-dav
    @bry-dav 2 роки тому +12

    Everybody has their own unique use case but I think the fact that 4 out of the 5 default specs across the 14 and 16 inch MacBook Pro lineup is proof that Apple thinks the the M1 Pro is the right spec for most people.

  • @Ewang2727
    @Ewang2727 2 роки тому

    So music = m1 pro. Video = m1 max

  • @BTSflyer
    @BTSflyer 2 роки тому

    I do video editing for my youtube channel and really could use much quicker rendering power so I have the money and will go with the 16" Max. Don't need portability, It's going to sit on my desk just like my Mac Mini is now. I feel the need for speed! Since I will be using to make money I will deduct it as an expense next year's taxes. Waiting to buy it after the first of the year for next years taxes.

  • @hughhepker4897
    @hughhepker4897 2 роки тому

    Hi Rene , Try Get an 16” M1 Max in South Africa 🇿🇦 been waiting since Nov 2 2021 was on a queue that didn’t workout after 80 days of waiting . I gave up now ordered a BTO Will be lucky to get it end of April 2022 as we are a Tier 3 country . So no clout so you gotta wait and wait by the time I get it Apple will already show off the 27” IMac M1 max 🤣🤣🤣how lovely … what’s the point ..,it’s like vapour ware these days for anyone who doesn’t live in the States or Canada 🇨🇦

  • @aprilscraftroom
    @aprilscraftroom 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much - I did have that question and you did answer it. :-)
    April

  • @Kirk-Monteux-Production
    @Kirk-Monteux-Production 2 роки тому

    Does anybody know whats wrong with apple?
    I did order and fully paid a 16" MacbookPro M1 Max with mactrade which is a Germany based apple provider on October 22 in 2021 and still waiting.
    They telling me week by week that apple won't deliver my order. Whats wrong with apple?

  • @kennethjackson4858
    @kennethjackson4858 2 роки тому

    Mr. Ritchie, don’t have either machine test, but I do use an iMac Intel with 32gb ram, 1tb. I do music and do have sample libraries and want at least 32gb ram, but it seems I would like to do videos soon (for me and documentaries). I know it’s a lot to ask, but I want to spend My correctly. Hope I hear from you to what MacPro would be better for me?

  • @jdavid2003
    @jdavid2003 2 роки тому

    When you’re spending that much $$, I think of the entry level as a small soft drink where you are paying the “entry fee” then the difference in cost from there is minimal when compared to the “entry cost” of $2K. For example looking strictly at CPU:
    the base 14” MacBook Pro:
    Small=$1999 8 core, 14 core GPU, 16GB RAM
    Medium=$2299. 10 core CPU, 16 core GPU, 16GB Ram
    Large=$2,899. 10 core CPU, 24 core GPU, 32GB Ram
    Extra Large=$3,099. 10 core CPU, 32 core GPU, 32GB Ram

  • @jaybrown6350
    @jaybrown6350 2 роки тому

    No "professional" should care about battery life. They should only care about performance. No professional videographer or musician relies on a portable computer.

  • @dschwartz783
    @dschwartz783 2 роки тому

    Okay, I’m bothered so I’ll just say it. H.265 IS HEVC.
    Nitpick out of the way. Proceed.

  • @seniorstube6683
    @seniorstube6683 2 роки тому

    Rene, a piece of advice. Looking crazy and surprised in the tittle of your videos is really annoying and add no value to them. Actually are beginning to turn people off.

  • @sambergphilosophy
    @sambergphilosophy 2 роки тому

    Would anyone be able to tell me how to spec one of these for heavily formula based excel and spreadsheet use? Don’t want super overkill, but want some overhead space

  • @GaryCruzDotCom
    @GaryCruzDotCom 2 роки тому

    Don’t forget, a VP at Apple can EASILY afford any product they sell

  • @mirkofrollano1265
    @mirkofrollano1265 2 роки тому

    Wait what? You made a video on Buffy? Sorry, what? Can I subscribe twice? Is there such a thing as a double subscription? No? Why?

  • @rem9882
    @rem9882 2 роки тому

    Linus Tech Tips rivews results are similar to what your saying but just showing performance results and graphs in different applications

  • @conradsenior5843
    @conradsenior5843 2 роки тому

    Just wait in five or 10 years you’ll be using one of these Mac studios for a file server. LOL

  • @robgerety
    @robgerety 2 роки тому

    Thanks. Lots of common sense here. I am about to retire. Part of my plan with all the new found time I will have is to dive into the artistic side of my life. That means a LOT more photography, (including big panos, night sky stuff, sports and wildlife, etc.), and a LOT more music making and recording. In the modern world these two activities require a lot of tech and a good fast and trouble free laptop is the beating heart of it all. So, I'll be pretty much maxing out a 14 inch and I'll use it away from my desktop a great deal, but I will also use it as my desktop with external monitors, etc. I hope and expect it will be my only computer for a good long time,. I have a 14" MAX with 24 core gpu, 64 gig ram and 2TB SSD on order. Now the wait. Its a long wait.

  • @Great_America
    @Great_America 2 роки тому

    The Apple VPs were given their MacBooks for free, so that point is moot. And advising someone to buy something based upon what they can afford vs. what is it that they are getting for the value are two completely different arguments. The price difference between the M1 Pro and M1 Max is $1000. Is the price difference worth it? You failed to answer the more important question.

  • @kennedybushnell7003
    @kennedybushnell7003 2 роки тому

    Normally really like your videos, but the first 2:30 of this video is you just rambling on.

  • @steffdia7080
    @steffdia7080 2 роки тому

    M1 Max and Pro suffers from magnet fingerprint and will cause easily smudge, staingate.
    Apple still have not learned their lesson.

  • @accentontheoff
    @accentontheoff 2 роки тому

    For those of us who don’t care about laptops / portability, and prefer desktops, the choice seems to be between M1 or M1 Max. There is no desktop M1 Pro yet.

  • @carloisidoresalcedo6325
    @carloisidoresalcedo6325 2 роки тому

    Hi Rene! I took the $11 offer but nothing would play. If you could help me out please. Thanks !!!

  • @hawaiiopihi
    @hawaiiopihi 2 роки тому

    Good video however little long winded. Would be nice to cut to the chace and give a summary upfront or end of the video of your recommendations.

  • @nghiale8517
    @nghiale8517 2 роки тому

    I want to render 10 hours 4k gaming video on Ps5! Which one should I get?

  • @CryptoSharknado
    @CryptoSharknado 2 роки тому

    The pro max has multiple extended displays correct? Annoyed I got an M1 early on then realized i can only use 1 extended screen

  • @temskee6792
    @temskee6792 2 роки тому

    if you are not going to upgrade on next apple release.. go max it out.. but if you are the type of person that cant help yourself every time apple releases new macbook. just stick with base, pretty much next releaes version will just eclipse the higher tier mac...

  • @Oliriosounds
    @Oliriosounds 2 роки тому

    ill get the 16, I still find it very portable. im always on car and only work in other people music studios and stufff

  • @JoTokutora
    @JoTokutora 2 роки тому

    The M1s are overrated

  • @Evermore2017
    @Evermore2017 2 роки тому

    “You do you” is a tired worn out cliche. Sincerely, One Game at a Time.

  • @marklitherland888
    @marklitherland888 2 роки тому

    Hmmmmm - that's me 100%. I think I want an M1 Max but the availability really sucks.
    My main workload is editing 4k XFAVC in Davinci Resolve onto a 1080p timeline. My 2013 Mac Pro just isn't doing the job for the larger projects and I'm increasingly editing away from home.