I just bought a used M1 Max w 32G RAM and 1TB drive for $1750. From your video I think I got a great deal compared to what an M3 of those specs would cost. Probably double
I'll join the chat.... I have an M1 Max 64GB and 4TB drive. The difference in price form 32GB to 64GB was $100 so why not. Thoughts after 2 months, 32GB is more than enough ram. for my Photoshop app and Dreamweaver coding. I notice I use about 20GB of RAM with every app open and thunderbird email, with another 20GB in cache (which the computer will use if its there) . The only issue I had is when I transferred over Apple Photos from migration and it doesn't work as well, images are blurry for a bit then they get crisp (670GB of photos/videos) the machine I transferred them from are ok. I can not speak of the M3 Max MBP - But from what I hear and see Im losing perhaps 7 seconds on initial bootup and maybe 5 seconds on launching an app. BUT, I just put my machine to SLEEP so I don't reboot it often. More RAM = less HHD usage since the software can utilize all the ram available. I think it was a super buy at half off. saving $2000 is worth the couple of seconds of boot and app load time. Lastly, for video it has the FASTEST 400GB of buss speed, the M3 MAx has 150GB or 200GB?
There is no way or reason to replace my M1 Max, 64GB of RAM, 32 Core GPU, 4 TB SSD, for any M2 Max or M3 Max. As well as the M3 performs, the M1 Max is a fantastic Mac, with Blazing Performance and Incredible Battery Life. I have 3 years of Apple Care+, and My M1 Max is going to be one year old on Christmas 2023, I cannot justify an upgrade, but it will be great for those with Intel Mac Book Pros.
On Friday, my new-in-box M1 Max 64Gb 2Tb MBP (with Apple Care+) should arrive! I’m super excited. This video and your comment help me feel like it was a good decision. I’m upgrading from a 2020 HP Envy 15 Intel i7 32Gb 1Tb Nvidia RTX 2060 creator-focused laptop. Recent random BSOD (probably from too many chrome windows and tabs) caused me to look. I suspect the release of the M3 chips and Black Friday led to the $1800 in savings on my transaction. Controlling for taxes & accident protection it wasn’t that much more expensive than my 2020 HP-and the MBP will have 2x the RAM & storage.
You’re going to absolutely love your new Mac Book Pro M1 Max, you won’t regret it, and it will blaze through everything that you throw at it, while sipping the battery so slightly, that you won’t believe it! It’s an incredible Mac, and congratulations on your choice!
Intel Mac may be an upgrade for Intel based apps And Windows and certain programs that can Make use of an AMD eGPU like the rx6800 6900. And any 32bit apps games quick sync video editing. Music apps that work better under intel
For the resale value of the M1 max and how minuscule the differences are, it's not at all logical to make the upgrade unless you really need 3 extra seconds of free time in your life. It's really just marketing and FOMO.
The M1’s are just too good, apple made a mistake 😭 nobody wants to upgrade I’ve got a Max 64 with a tb, I don’t see myself upgrading for AT LEAST 5-7 years
FOMO is apple's marketing, The m1 Max macbok pro is good enough for 99% of the people, the only people that should buy the M3 are movie editors or VFX editors
I just recently purchased the M1 Max 64GB, 4tb of ssd on a great sale! and it’s been amazing! Granted I’m coming from an old windows laptop but I feel like the M1 is still gonna be good for the next few years. I’ll maybe upgrade when M6 comes around.
My 16" M1 Max runs amazingly well. It never gets in the way of me making anything. Unless I rendered multiple videos a day, it doesn't seem worth an upgrade. Especially since most software isn't fully optimized for the new GPU architecture. The extra UI snappiness seems minimal, and you'd never notice it unless you compare side by side.
I went from an M1 Max 16" to a M3 Pro 14". The size was the only reason I did it, Something interesting though, I ran the Affinity Photo II benchmark on both and the M3 won decisively. I was pleasantly surprise. Digging the smaller size (and the Space Black)
@@psysword I really don't notice it if their is any. I know they increased the size of the heatsink in the M3 Pro/Max in the 14". I have yet to hear a fan. I also downsized my 12.9" iPad for the 11" and for packing around all day that with the MBP 14" is a winning combo!
I'm like the opposite. I have an M1 14" and I've been kicking myself in the teeth for the last two years for not getting the 16". So I'm probably gonna upgrade just for the bigger screen.
Found a deal on the M1 Max 16" MBP (10c/32c/32GB/1TB) sealed, brand new for $1800 at my campus store. Should I go for it? I'm using M2 15" MBA for everyday carry and am looking for a workstation at a reasonable price. There's also M2 Max 16" MBP (12c/38c/32GB/1TB) sealed, brand new for $2500, but does the M2 Max justify $700 extra over the M1 Max?
IMO, unless you are struggling to run things right now with your M2 15”, I would stick with it. In the case you feel like you do have to upgrade, go for that M1 Max, the upgrade is not worth 700. The M1 Max is still a crazy relevant machine, and a lot of UA-camrs seem to be making too big of a deal about M1, M2, M3. Apple’s target audience right now is not any of the M1 or M2 users but the leftover Intel users. If you feel like that M2 is underperforming for what you need it to do, upgrade if you feel like it, M2 15” should last several year without need for upgrades.
so now, in 2024 M1 Max 64 gb, 8ssd is sold for 2,300$ used.....also m3 max at 36 gb and 1tb storage is sold for 2,400$ usd used, .........which one would you choose? m4 max is not worth the money.
The one thing that would make me consider upgrading my M1 Pro to an M3 Pro is, as you highlighted, to benefit from the better residuals on a trade in. But I'd still be looking at funding a gap of something like £1,500, which is a heck o f a lot of money for a small bump in performance upgrades.
Totally. That is my main deciding factor. That plus the basic every day use performance improvements. Applications opening in half the time or faster, stuff like that.
@@jeradtech The tension is real. But I'm not sure it's enough of a reason to upgrade. Some YT'rs will say that the accumulation of all these microseconds means more productivity, but we aren't machines. If that were the case, we'd have to measure coffee breaks, toilet breaks, distraction breaks etc. Mail opening in 4 seconds vs 2 seconds probably doesn't make me more productive. (this is the angel on my shoulder talking 😂 )
I’m still working on high quality film work on a 2012 macbook pro in 2024. It’s my ride or die. I was about to get an additional M3 Max to speed up my work. Primarily exporting video. After seeing your video, I’m going for a used or refurbished M1max. Thank you very much!
I'm exactly in the same boat. 12 year old i7 with 16GB Ram and 2TB SSD. For it's age it's probably the best machine I have ever owned... until now. Refurbished M1 MAX, 64GB, 8TB on the way. Similar spec'd M3 is 3x the price!!!
Thanks for this test. I was pondering whether to upgrade from my M1 Studio to a M3 Studio when they are released. This definitely gives me some food for thought. I have the 14" MacBook Pros - both M1 for admin work and M2 for field video work. I have the Mac Studio back in the office for the heavy lifting. It was so cost effective with a trade-in of my Mac mini.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *📱 The video compares the M3 Max and M1 Mac, both fully speced units with 4 TB storage. * 02:06 *🔍 Both systems are restarted to compare their startup times.* 05:39 *🏁 In running a geekbench test, it's found that the M3 model has better performance scores than the M1. * 08:09 *🔄 A Premier Pro project is rendered on both devices, revealing that the M1 finished slightly ahead of the M3.* 11:57 *🔋 Checking the battery usage during rendering, the M3 trailed behind the M1.* 13:44 *🆚 The render test for a Final Cut project resulted in an indistinguishable difference between the two models.* 16:00 *📸 For exporting high-resolution images from Lightroom, the M3 performed significantly better than the M1.* 18:56 *💵 The considerate factor for choosing between M3 and M1 can be the resale value, as retaining that resale value could justify the added cost of the M3.* Made with HARPA AI
The premiere pro (final cut is superior) export difference is due to a slight difference in memory speed about 1.37% difference hind the neck & neck finish.
I have the 2021 16”MBP M1 Pro (16GB RAM/1TB SSD) and I mainly use it for video editing on Final Cut Pro X. However, when I use lots of plugins on a 1080p animation, FCPX will sometimes crash. So, I ordered the M3 Max MBP (64GB RAM/2TB SSD) to give it a try. As expected, I experienced absolutely great performance with the M3 Max and no crashes- I’m assuming, because of the greater RAM. But, I just couldn’t justify the price, so I returned it. A month later, I ordered a refurbished M2 Max MBP (64GB RAM/2TB SSD) and experienced the same great results as the M3 Max, but at $1000 cheaper. Still, I wished there was just a way to add extra RAM to my M1 Pro device and still found the M2 Max as being too expensive and sent it back to Apple. So, I decided to just suck it up with my M1 Pro, because Apple is likely going to stop offering OS upgrades in the very near future, rendering my plugins useless. If that happens, I’ll consider switching to a PC for video editing.
You can go for M1 Max, it is a freaking beast. I've upgraded from M1 Pro same as yours for M1 Max 64go and this is night and day. 2200€ for M1 Max with Apple Care and I sold my M1 Pro for 1800€ so 400€ the upgraded is worth imo
why to PC over Mac? I switched to Mac for video editing because adobe premiere requires monthly subscription and I don't like that, it's like are a forever slave to them, that's why I switched to Mac
Ssd and ram combo really can help with photos loading etc. The m3 extra cores are not really being utilized for some reason may be not getting enough power or software not being able to take advatage of them. I think audio apps would be a better test and ssd speed tests.
I upgraded from a 2020 intel MacBook Pro to a 14 inch M3 Max with 16 cpu and 40 gpu cores and 64 gigs of ram, and im absolutely loving it...but I can definitely see M1 and M2 Max users not feeling like they need to upgrade.....even if they come out with an M4 Max this year I already have more than enough to do what I need to do.
I heard this is not really a great improvement and none of the videos I have seen recommend upgradeing if you already have an M1. Do you think it would be worth it? I just bought an M1 Pro 16" for a bit cheaper that the M3 Pro 14" and I hope I made the right call.
yeah you're right I think, but that 16 gb ram is a bummer in my video and music productions. I know it will be faster like in this video the M1 Max was64 gb so of course its super future proofed. And then as the reviewer mentioned my exchange is 1055 from Apple. So if I want to future proof my machine for like 5 to 8 years, this is the way to go. Just my balancing all things given, but probably others would wait. I also want to push the limits with my audio and video production in after effects which barely takes my apple pro res raw files. So yeah adobe is a hog and for that reason alone you need the MAX M3 128 gb.@@crunchchannel8788
Of all the comparison videos I have watched, it seems like resale value is the deciding factor. When the M4 chip comes out, our M1's will be worth less than they do currently.@@mralxndr2846
Question: What about how the light reflects off the screen? Are the screens the same in that matter? I can see some lights being reflected on the top part of the m1
The M1 Series is a Hall-of-Fame CPU. I have an 8 GB M1 MBA and a 64 GB M3 Max. Shoutout to the M1 Maxers. That CPU continues to dropkick anything you can throw at it with ease.
The reason both are rendering same is because both have 2 hardware encoder decoders. If you use those, then not much difference. Turn them off and export using software encoders and you will see the difference . The GPU on the max is almost 3x faster than M1 max from what I saw. For 3d and GPU apps , it's huge. Also some software are not optimized for m3 at the moment.
Thanks for the interesting video and helpful comparison. Are those two 14” MBPs? I think this is something that you should specify in the title or description of your video.
Can you compare the M1 with a intel core ultra laptop? That maybe uses the rtx 4060 gpu? They come close in price to the m1 max. Not sure which one to choose.
I have ran the export tests again and the results are the same with the exception of the fact that the M1 had pre-rendered assets on the timeline so the M3 ended up winning the Premiere Pro export by just over 30 seconds, which is still not much.
@@jeradtech Sorry I miss typed my initial question meant to say M1 not M3. lol Was curious if the speeds really sped up for if they slowed down as it got older with the newer OS's.
Ssd performance and life as well as battery goes down over time, i suspect this here as well please do a long ssd copy test not just quick ssd speed test which often is just cache reading, from memory?
helpful vid, thanks m8. my M1 Max has chewed thru a LOT of media, and highly impacted my workflow for the better. only regret I'm having with it is being at 32gb ram. Been kicking myself last several months for not going with the 64gb; esp since upgrading to Sonoma, a lot of the responsiveness when I'm in high-output mode had gotten muddy with this laptop, results in a lot of software or system reboots etc. Overall, I think one of the biggest weakpoints of the M-system is memory allocation and vram swap - I think they're still working out the kinks, and esp with adobe software, the memory usage gets pretty messy at times when multitasking. tbh, I'd be more inclined to upgrade to M1 Max 64gb on the cheap before going with similar M2 or M3; or ofc, double down on budget and get the 128gb and completely eliminate the memory issue lol.
Depends. If you don't need the extra RAM I would go with the extra storage space. Both are not user upgradable and it's pretty easy to use up 1TB of storage.
Thanks for your video comparison....... Measuring the temperatures on an M1Max that has been working for at least 2 years and a new M3 does not find reliable values because the thermal paste coupling between the heatsink and CPU/GPU and accumulated dust can alter the temperature results. Another important thing is that Apple sets the fans to operate at high temperatures, when the M1 can go into thermal protection, reducing overall performance; So setting a useful app like MacFanControl can make sure to avoid high temperatures and push M1/3 to maximum continuously. I would also like to point out that the 14" MacBookPro M1Max cannot push performance to the maximum in "battery" mode, Apple's statement, not mine obviously. In any case, big differences
The reason they perform the same is because Apple has put the same encoding hardware in all of them, the performance of the M3 is only noticeable when you do other than video editing. For example, 3D work, VFX and Gaming.
My M1 Max Used to boot up very fast too. Now it became very sluggish, it got slower with time. I think more fair if restart both M3 Max and M1 Max where they both are mint condition unused.
You just helped me cancel my sell on “It’s Worth More.” Basically, what’s going on is not that the M3 is not powerful, the software has still not caught up to the performance of these machines. You really don’t need anything more than a decently spec’d M1.
Interesting apple use the m1 to compare to rather than the m2 which suggests the m3 isn’t much better than the m2 so they needed to make the figures look better? That’s like comparing the iPhone 15 pro max to the 13 lol it’s just never done it’s always compared to the model before
Coming from a Windows PC, I recently got the 14'' M1 Max MacBook Pro with 64Gb RAM and 32Gb GPU. While it is overall a nice machine, the performance so far has been underwhelming for me, to say the least. I'm editing 4K H.265 4.2.0 footage in Adobe Premiere. Timeline performance becomes a bit choppy as soon as there are two clips, on top of each other. Export times of the m1 max are also underwhelming, lacking behind my old 9th generation i9 intel PC with NVidia 1080ti GPU (which I was hoping to replace with a better-performing machine): It takes 57 minutes to export a 19-minute long video with Adobe Premiere. Same deceiving performance when exporting 1000 pictures from Lightroom. It takes forever. Even taking into account the 14'' throttling, I am really wondering why this performance is so much different from what UA-cam export and performance tests suggest. I am either editing on the internal SSD, which is blazing fast or on a Thunderbolt 4 external SSD (Acacis enclosure), which is also as fast as it gets for an external SSD. I am aware that Adobe Premiere is not the most optimized software for Mac, but still, this looks problematic. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you very much
I didn’t do the test but I sold my 16 M1 Max almost maxxed out for $2250, tried the m3 pro max 14 maxed out $6300, returned it and ordered the m1 14 maxed out $2800. Put 3500 back in my pocket. I really just wanted a smaller computer. I won. Great video!
but it's only about final cut and premiere. yeah, almost no difference in performance. i think we should wait for these software updates and after test it again. but for music production and 3d graphics - difference between m3 max and older chips is HUGE.. almost 1.7 - 3 times faster!
Really not a good true comparison as your M1 is a lot older and obviously there's a lot more on it hard drive wise so it's obviously going be much slower versus a brand new machine.
There’s No logical reason to get an M3 max over an identically spec'd M1 Max , except for gaming (LOL) and slightly faster export speeds. Apple made a mistake with the M1 Pro and higher chips, they are aging like fine wine.
Why didn't you run the tests while plugged in and in high-performance mode? That's where you can really see the effects of the M3 vs the M1. This is a bad video.
Apple generations used to he 3-5x faster/better. Yes, 3-5 times faster. The m3 is 0.5-0.7x faster than the m1... Think about that and think about the price difference.
FINALLY someone did this comparison. Thank you Jerad
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I just bought a used M1 Max w 32G RAM and 1TB drive for $1750. From your video I think I got a great deal compared to what an M3 of those specs would cost. Probably double
How your mac going on since? Gonna trade my base m1 pro 14.2 to a similar machine like yours for 600$ next week. So your experience will help alot
Where did you buy yours from?
hwo is it going broski
I'll join the chat.... I have an M1 Max 64GB and 4TB drive. The difference in price form 32GB to 64GB was $100 so why not. Thoughts after 2 months, 32GB is more than enough ram. for my Photoshop app and Dreamweaver coding. I notice I use about 20GB of RAM with every app open and thunderbird email, with another 20GB in cache (which the computer will use if its there) . The only issue I had is when I transferred over Apple Photos from migration and it doesn't work as well, images are blurry for a bit then they get crisp (670GB of photos/videos) the machine I transferred them from are ok. I can not speak of the M3 Max MBP - But from what I hear and see Im losing perhaps 7 seconds on initial bootup and maybe 5 seconds on launching an app. BUT, I just put my machine to SLEEP so I don't reboot it often. More RAM = less HHD usage since the software can utilize all the ram available. I think it was a super buy at half off. saving $2000 is worth the couple of seconds of boot and app load time. Lastly, for video it has the FASTEST 400GB of buss speed, the M3 MAx has 150GB or 200GB?
I don't think you got a good deal. at least 2 tb or more for used m1 a 3 generation old chip.
There is no way or reason to replace my M1 Max, 64GB of RAM, 32 Core GPU, 4 TB SSD, for any M2 Max or M3 Max. As well as the M3 performs, the M1 Max is a fantastic Mac, with Blazing Performance and Incredible Battery Life. I have 3 years of Apple Care+, and My M1 Max is going to be one year old on Christmas 2023, I cannot justify an upgrade, but it will be great for those with Intel Mac Book Pros.
On Friday, my new-in-box M1 Max 64Gb 2Tb MBP (with Apple Care+) should arrive! I’m super excited. This video and your comment help me feel like it was a good decision.
I’m upgrading from a 2020 HP Envy 15 Intel i7 32Gb 1Tb Nvidia RTX 2060 creator-focused laptop. Recent random BSOD (probably from too many chrome windows and tabs) caused me to look.
I suspect the release of the M3 chips and Black Friday led to the $1800 in savings on my transaction. Controlling for taxes & accident protection it wasn’t that much more expensive than my 2020 HP-and the MBP will have 2x the RAM & storage.
You’re going to absolutely love your new Mac Book Pro M1 Max, you won’t regret it, and it will blaze through everything that you throw at it, while sipping the battery so slightly, that you won’t believe it! It’s an incredible Mac, and congratulations on your choice!
I’m really looking forward to better battery life and the factory color-calibrated screen!
Intel Mac may be an upgrade for Intel based apps And Windows and certain programs that can Make use of an AMD eGPU like the rx6800 6900.
And any 32bit apps games quick sync video editing.
Music apps that work better under intel
I upgraded from the m1pro to the m3max and the extra ram is night and day for running virtual machines. But no way if I had your m1max setup
For the resale value of the M1 max and how minuscule the differences are, it's not at all logical to make the upgrade unless you really need 3 extra seconds of free time in your life. It's really just marketing and FOMO.
The M1’s are just too good, apple made a mistake 😭 nobody wants to upgrade I’ve got a Max 64 with a tb, I don’t see myself upgrading for AT LEAST 5-7 years
@@cmj0929 which one is better: a macbook m1 64gb with 2T ssd or a macbook m1 max 96gb with 1T?
FOMO is apple's marketing, The m1 Max macbok pro is good enough for 99% of the people, the only people that should buy the M3 are movie editors or VFX editors
The M3 max has the same 2 encode / decode units as the M1 max, so there will be very little difference in video exporting, even with updated software.
and a slightly lower memory bandwidth too, if I understand correctly. certainly a weird move on apple's part
I just recently purchased the M1 Max 64GB, 4tb of ssd on a great sale! and it’s been amazing! Granted I’m coming from an old windows laptop but I feel like the M1 is still gonna be good for the next few years. I’ll maybe upgrade when M6 comes around.
My 16" M1 Max runs amazingly well. It never gets in the way of me making anything. Unless I rendered multiple videos a day, it doesn't seem worth an upgrade. Especially since most software isn't fully optimized for the new GPU architecture. The extra UI snappiness seems minimal, and you'd never notice it unless you compare side by side.
has your opinion changed by now? Surely more and more software must have been optimized.
Did you upgrade in the meanwhile?
I haven’t, I’m still completely happy with the M1 Max.
@@matthazard I can absolutely imagine thatg many people don't feel the need to upgrade. Even the first generation is still super strong.
I went from an M1 Max 16" to a M3 Pro 14". The size was the only reason I did it, Something interesting though, I ran the Affinity Photo II benchmark on both and the M3 won decisively. I was pleasantly surprise. Digging the smaller size (and the Space Black)
how's the thermal throttling with the 14 inch? Im thinking of going for it too
@@psysword I really don't notice it if their is any. I know they increased the size of the heatsink in the M3 Pro/Max in the 14". I have yet to hear a fan. I also downsized my 12.9" iPad for the 11" and for packing around all day that with the MBP 14" is a winning combo!
@@jimtipton8888 great. What are you using all that power for?
Ah but I'm getting a Max for editing videos and audio.
I'm like the opposite. I have an M1 14" and I've been kicking myself in the teeth for the last two years for not getting the 16". So I'm probably gonna upgrade just for the bigger screen.
Found a deal on the M1 Max 16" MBP (10c/32c/32GB/1TB) sealed, brand new for $1800 at my campus store. Should I go for it? I'm using M2 15" MBA for everyday carry and am looking for a workstation at a reasonable price. There's also M2 Max 16" MBP (12c/38c/32GB/1TB) sealed, brand new for $2500, but does the M2 Max justify $700 extra over the M1 Max?
IMO, unless you are struggling to run things right now with your M2 15”, I would stick with it. In the case you feel like you do have to upgrade, go for that M1 Max, the upgrade is not worth 700. The M1 Max is still a crazy relevant machine, and a lot of UA-camrs seem to be making too big of a deal about M1, M2, M3. Apple’s target audience right now is not any of the M1 or M2 users but the leftover Intel users. If you feel like that M2 is underperforming for what you need it to do, upgrade if you feel like it, M2 15” should last several year without need for upgrades.
M1 Max is a fantastic machine. Unless there is something specific you do that has a time-saving compound effect, it's likely not worth the extra cost.
so now, in 2024 M1 Max 64 gb, 8ssd is sold for 2,300$ used.....also m3 max at 36 gb and 1tb storage is sold for 2,400$ usd used, .........which one would you choose? m4 max is not worth the money.
The one thing that would make me consider upgrading my M1 Pro to an M3 Pro is, as you highlighted, to benefit from the better residuals on a trade in.
But I'd still be looking at funding a gap of something like £1,500, which is a heck o f a lot of money for a small bump in performance upgrades.
Totally. That is my main deciding factor. That plus the basic every day use performance improvements. Applications opening in half the time or faster, stuff like that.
@@jeradtech The tension is real. But I'm not sure it's enough of a reason to upgrade. Some YT'rs will say that the accumulation of all these microseconds means more productivity, but we aren't machines. If that were the case, we'd have to measure coffee breaks, toilet breaks, distraction breaks etc.
Mail opening in 4 seconds vs 2 seconds probably doesn't make me more productive.
(this is the angel on my shoulder talking 😂 )
Is not that offset by the price of the m3?
This was a great video and so helpful. Thank you.
I’m still working on high quality film work on a 2012 macbook pro in 2024. It’s my ride or die.
I was about to get an additional M3 Max to speed up my work. Primarily exporting video.
After seeing your video, I’m going for a used or refurbished M1max. Thank you very much!
I'm exactly in the same boat. 12 year old i7 with 16GB Ram and 2TB SSD. For it's age it's probably the best machine I have ever owned... until now. Refurbished M1 MAX, 64GB, 8TB on the way. Similar spec'd M3 is 3x the price!!!
Thanks for this test. I was pondering whether to upgrade from my M1 Studio to a M3 Studio when they are released. This definitely gives me some food for thought. I have the 14" MacBook Pros - both M1 for admin work and M2 for field video work. I have the Mac Studio back in the office for the heavy lifting. It was so cost effective with a trade-in of my Mac mini.
but why did you test it on battery power? you should have made while plugged in
Thank you for the comparison Jerad ! how fast is warp stabilization with a 10 min clip on the M1 and M3 in Adobe premiere pro ?
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 *📱 The video compares the M3 Max and M1 Mac, both fully speced units with 4 TB storage. *
02:06 *🔍 Both systems are restarted to compare their startup times.*
05:39 *🏁 In running a geekbench test, it's found that the M3 model has better performance scores than the M1. *
08:09 *🔄 A Premier Pro project is rendered on both devices, revealing that the M1 finished slightly ahead of the M3.*
11:57 *🔋 Checking the battery usage during rendering, the M3 trailed behind the M1.*
13:44 *🆚 The render test for a Final Cut project resulted in an indistinguishable difference between the two models.*
16:00 *📸 For exporting high-resolution images from Lightroom, the M3 performed significantly better than the M1.*
18:56 *💵 The considerate factor for choosing between M3 and M1 can be the resale value, as retaining that resale value could justify the added cost of the M3.*
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What iphone cover do you have. It looks really nice :)
I just upgraded a 2019 Macbook Pro (16GB RAM, 256GB storage, i7 chip) for a 16’ Macbook M3 Pro Max (128GB RAM, 4TB storage)
The premiere pro (final cut is superior) export difference is due to a slight difference in memory speed about 1.37% difference hind the neck & neck finish.
Has any of your opinions changed? Did any of you think of upgrading?
I have the 2021 16”MBP M1 Pro (16GB RAM/1TB SSD) and I mainly use it for video editing on Final Cut Pro X. However, when I use lots of plugins on a 1080p animation, FCPX will sometimes crash. So, I ordered the M3 Max MBP (64GB RAM/2TB SSD) to give it a try. As expected, I experienced absolutely great performance with the M3 Max and no crashes- I’m assuming, because of the greater RAM. But, I just couldn’t justify the price, so I returned it. A month later, I ordered a refurbished M2 Max MBP (64GB RAM/2TB SSD) and experienced the same great results as the M3 Max, but at $1000 cheaper. Still, I wished there was just a way to add extra RAM to my M1 Pro device and still found the M2 Max as being too expensive and sent it back to Apple. So, I decided to just suck it up with my M1 Pro, because Apple is likely going to stop offering OS upgrades in the very near future, rendering my plugins useless. If that happens, I’ll consider switching to a PC for video editing.
You can go for M1 Max, it is a freaking beast. I've upgraded from M1 Pro same as yours for M1 Max 64go and this is night and day. 2200€ for M1 Max with Apple Care and I sold my M1 Pro for 1800€ so 400€ the upgraded is worth imo
why to PC over Mac? I switched to Mac for video editing because adobe premiere requires monthly subscription and I don't like that, it's like are a forever slave to them, that's why I switched to Mac
Recently upgraded from a 1tb 16gig M1 Pro….to an apple refurbished M1 Max, with 64gigs or ram and 4tb for 2100. It’s a dream.
Damn how'd you find that? I got a 64gb 32 core with 1tb for $1800 on eBay.
Did you get the 32core?
Yep! Through micro center!
Ssd and ram combo really can help with photos loading etc.
The m3 extra cores are not really being utilized for some reason may be not getting enough power or software not being able to take advatage of them.
I think audio apps would be a better test and ssd speed tests.
Inference comparison on both machines would be very interesting
I upgraded from a 2020 intel MacBook Pro to a 14 inch M3 Max with 16 cpu and 40 gpu cores and 64 gigs of ram, and im absolutely loving it...but I can definitely see M1 and M2 Max users not feeling like they need to upgrade.....even if they come out with an M4 Max this year I already have more than enough to do what I need to do.
Wow, 1st rate unboxing! Seriously, one of the best I've seen.
Thank you, I really appreciate that.
great job. I'm thinking of upgrading too from a M1 Pro 16gb
I heard this is not really a great improvement and none of the videos I have seen recommend upgradeing if you already have an M1. Do you think it would be worth it?
I just bought an M1 Pro 16" for a bit cheaper that the M3 Pro 14" and I hope I made the right call.
yeah you're right I think, but that 16 gb ram is a bummer in my video and music productions. I know it will be faster like in this video the M1 Max was64 gb so of course its super future proofed. And then as the reviewer mentioned my exchange is 1055 from Apple. So if I want to future proof my machine for like 5 to 8 years, this is the way to go. Just my balancing all things given, but probably others would wait. I also want to push the limits with my audio and video production in after effects which barely takes my apple pro res raw files. So yeah adobe is a hog and for that reason alone you need the MAX M3 128 gb.@@crunchchannel8788
I have not seen one task the m1pro couldn’t chew through yet. All difference would be less time consumed. Not worth it imho 😅
Of all the comparison videos I have watched, it seems like resale value is the deciding factor. When the M4 chip comes out, our M1's will be worth less than they do currently.@@mralxndr2846
If the difference in what you would have paid can be used to add value in other areas of your life, you made the right decision.
is fan noise a problem on the M3 Max?
Question: What about how the light reflects off the screen? Are the screens the same in that matter? I can see some lights being reflected on the top part of the m1
Using the migration assistant on only one device means the two devices are not set up the same way, The comparison may be biased
And battery power as well Come on man the battery is 3 years old
My migration thinks my new Mac is my old Mac air!
Excellent video - thank you for making it!
Great review! Would love to see a blender comparison as well so we can see that GPU being put to test.
I will likely do a Part 2 soon.
Great video! Where can I get that mountain wallpaper?
What should I get, M1 Max or M3 Max? I dont have any Mac right now. Want to do video editing, music production and 3D design, photoshop.
For 3d render m3 max is best,
The M1 Series is a Hall-of-Fame CPU. I have an 8 GB M1 MBA and a 64 GB M3 Max. Shoutout to the M1 Maxers. That CPU continues to dropkick anything you can throw at it with ease.
The reason both are rendering same is because both have 2 hardware encoder decoders. If you use those, then not much difference. Turn them off and export using software encoders and you will see the difference . The GPU on the max is almost 3x faster than M1 max from what I saw. For 3d and GPU apps , it's huge. Also some software are not optimized for m3 at the moment.
Really seems like we have at least a 4 year lifespan on these generation of processor... M3 seems to be a premature upgrade...
Thanks for the interesting video and helpful comparison. Are those two 14” MBPs? I think this is something that you should specify in the title or description of your video.
16” MacBook Pros
Can you compare the M1 with a intel core ultra laptop? That maybe uses the rtx 4060 gpu? They come close in price to the m1 max. Not sure which one to choose.
M1 blows anything intel out of the water without question
Did the M1 run that slowly when you first bought it? I'm curious if all those test still come out the same as when the M1 was brand new.
I have ran the export tests again and the results are the same with the exception of the fact that the M1 had pre-rendered assets on the timeline so the M3 ended up winning the Premiere Pro export by just over 30 seconds, which is still not much.
@@jeradtech Sorry I miss typed my initial question meant to say M1 not M3. lol Was curious if the speeds really sped up for if they slowed down as it got older with the newer OS's.
"Slowly" You're speaking about a beast that is way overkill for 99,9% of people 😅
never updated apple OS , it make our device worse , slow , etc
the OS that we got from release is the most stable for the product
Ssd performance and life as well as battery goes down over time, i suspect this here as well please do a long ssd copy test not just quick ssd speed test which often is just cache reading, from memory?
Benchmarks is all the same in comparision with numbers being higher on m3, how about gaming with FPS?
Thank u for the review 🙏🏼
Great insight review
Thanks, Jerad!
Which wallpaper is that?
Photo I took.
@jeradhilltech What about temperatures and fan noise during Premiere and Final Cut tests, please?
Part 2 coming!
@@jeradtech Has part 2 dropped?
helpful vid, thanks m8. my M1 Max has chewed thru a LOT of media, and highly impacted my workflow for the better. only regret I'm having with it is being at 32gb ram. Been kicking myself last several months for not going with the 64gb; esp since upgrading to Sonoma, a lot of the responsiveness when I'm in high-output mode had gotten muddy with this laptop, results in a lot of software or system reboots etc. Overall, I think one of the biggest weakpoints of the M-system is memory allocation and vram swap - I think they're still working out the kinks, and esp with adobe software, the memory usage gets pretty messy at times when multitasking.
tbh, I'd be more inclined to upgrade to M1 Max 64gb on the cheap before going with similar M2 or M3; or ofc, double down on budget and get the 128gb and completely eliminate the memory issue lol.
which one is better: a macbook m1 64gb with 2T ssd or a macbook m1 max 96gb with 1T?
Depends. If you don't need the extra RAM I would go with the extra storage space. Both are not user upgradable and it's pretty easy to use up 1TB of storage.
Thanks for your video comparison.......
Measuring the temperatures on an M1Max that has been working for at least 2 years and a new M3 does not find reliable values because the thermal paste coupling between the heatsink and CPU/GPU and accumulated dust can alter the temperature results.
Another important thing is that Apple sets the fans to operate at high temperatures, when the M1 can go into thermal protection, reducing overall performance; So setting a useful app like MacFanControl can make sure to avoid high temperatures and push M1/3 to maximum continuously. I would also like to point out that the 14" MacBookPro M1Max cannot push performance to the maximum in "battery" mode, Apple's statement, not mine obviously.
In any case, big differences
The reason they perform the same is because Apple has put the same encoding hardware in all of them, the performance of the M3 is only noticeable when you do other than video editing. For example, 3D work, VFX and Gaming.
Hello everyone! I haven't had any macbooks so far in my life. I am a starting music producer. Which Pro should I consider in the half of 2024?
Thanks!
I think a version with a pro or max prefix is very desirable.
Hi Jared, did you sold the M1 Max in the end? If yes, at how much?
Love your channel ❤
My M1 Max Used to boot up very fast too. Now it became very sluggish, it got slower with time. I think more fair if restart both M3 Max and M1 Max where they both are mint condition unused.
The screen looks much richer….cant wait for mine
You just helped me cancel my sell on “It’s Worth More.” Basically, what’s going on is not that the M3 is not powerful, the software has still not caught up to the performance of these machines. You really don’t need anything more than a decently spec’d M1.
M1 Max loaded is half the price for similar performance. Not worth it
Interesting apple use the m1 to compare to rather than the m2 which suggests the m3 isn’t much better than the m2 so they needed to make the figures look better? That’s like comparing the iPhone 15 pro max to the 13 lol it’s just never done it’s always compared to the model before
Return it. Apple has all of us thinking our older Mac’s are obsolete with each new release.
Coming from a Windows PC, I recently got the 14'' M1 Max MacBook Pro with 64Gb RAM and 32Gb GPU. While it is overall a nice machine, the performance so far has been underwhelming for me, to say the least. I'm editing 4K H.265 4.2.0 footage in Adobe Premiere. Timeline performance becomes a bit choppy as soon as there are two clips, on top of each other. Export times of the m1 max are also underwhelming, lacking behind my old 9th generation i9 intel PC with NVidia 1080ti GPU (which I was hoping to replace with a better-performing machine): It takes 57 minutes to export a 19-minute long video with Adobe Premiere.
Same deceiving performance when exporting 1000 pictures from Lightroom. It takes forever.
Even taking into account the 14'' throttling, I am really wondering why this performance is so much different from what UA-cam export and performance tests suggest.
I am either editing on the internal SSD, which is blazing fast or on a Thunderbolt 4 external SSD (Acacis enclosure), which is also as fast as it gets for an external SSD.
I am aware that Adobe Premiere is not the most optimized software for Mac, but still, this looks problematic. Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you very much
yeah a reason for me to upgrade from my M1 Pro to M3 MAX 128 gb. To get into the big boy league from fcpx
I didn’t do the test but I sold my 16 M1 Max almost maxxed out for $2250, tried the m3 pro max 14 maxed out $6300, returned it and ordered the m1 14 maxed out $2800. Put 3500 back in my pocket.
I really just wanted a smaller computer. I won.
Great video!
Nice!
but it's only about final cut and premiere. yeah, almost no difference in performance. i think we should wait for these software updates and after test it again.
but for music production and 3d graphics - difference between m3 max and older chips is HUGE.. almost 1.7 - 3 times faster!
I will be testing again once there are some software updates.
Strange that premiere pro on m3 max was not alot faster....
Part 2 is coming.
So basically get an M3 Max and use the trade in value of the M1 or wait for the M4 Max and lose some M1 trade in value
Really not a good true comparison as your M1 is a lot older and obviously there's a lot more on it hard drive wise so it's obviously going be much slower versus a brand new machine.
There’s No logical reason to get an M3 max over an identically spec'd M1 Max , except for gaming (LOL) and slightly faster export speeds. Apple made a mistake with the M1 Pro and higher chips, they are aging like fine wine.
Even my macb pro m1 pro is faster than your m1 max when opening premiere pro
😂😂🤣
Why didn't you run the tests while plugged in and in high-performance mode? That's where you can really see the effects of the M3 vs the M1. This is a bad video.
About to drop money on a used M1 Max MBP. Bargain!!!
Apple generations used to he 3-5x faster/better. Yes, 3-5 times faster. The m3 is 0.5-0.7x faster than the m1... Think about that and think about the price difference.
They where similar priced when new. So there's not really a price difference. You're just getting a used unit with m1. That's why it's cheaper
Seems like your M1 needs to be serviced it's slower than it should be
Thanks for saving my wallet :)
can you give me the m3 max? please? hehehe ☺
Are you married right now
Asmr is so cringe dude stop
If your M1 is THAT slow, something is wrong.