You can get “HELLCAT POWER” out of a 392 “ScatPack” if you do this!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- In this video I break down the problems with the 6.4 392 Hemi as well as the solution to getting more power without blowing it to smithereens!!!
#sleeper #chrysler300 #chrysler #hellcat #trackhawk #ford #camarozl1 #scatpack
Got 222,000 miles on the 6.4L Scatpack, never touched it- drive it hard everyday. Probably drop a Demon engine in it when the time comes. Best car I have ever had. Mopar or No car.
You're going to need more than just the engine my friend
Ya your gunna wana just get another scat engine and a supercharger lol cuz youll probably spend the same amount for a new scat with fropping a demon engine in
200k miles is wild
@@busterc6600 yeah just straight up buy a hellcat, you gonna have to get the demon engine + build the tranny + stronger driveshaft + suspension upgrade + exhaust + axles + tune (maybe even standalone ECU) + rims + semi slicks this is like a 50k usd build easy including labor and months of your time, at this point you replaced almost every component of the car, just get a hellcat with a 2.75 pulley and you'll be making same or close HP to a demon and also probably run 9s in the 1/4 mile.
@@cortion730Proper maintenance goes a long way.
I'm leaving mine stock. I dont really give a shit about racing. I can pass slow people, get on the highway quick, thing sounds great, and I still have the challenger body. That's cool enough for me.
@@mickeycohen5653 exactly
True
@@mickeycohen5653that’s the spirit. Everyone nowadays wants all the social media attention and all the fastest cars out there for attention. It’s all toxic fr. No one knows how to be happy with what they got.
The 392 will handle 10lbs of boost safely with no risk of failure on one condition. You must regap the piston rings.
It has nothing to do with gap. The ring lands are too high on the stock pistons and they break under too much boost
All 392 blocks from 2018 and on are BGE blocks. Took this straight from the Dodge Website, "With the advent of the 6.4L HEMI truck engines, a thicker block was cast and used across the entire engine platform (that included 392 HEMI engine-powered cars and SUVs around 2017-2018). These blocks are known as “Big Gas Engine” or BGE for short."
I was just about to say this. I learnt this the other day after messing up a rod bearing. Most don’t know but the hellcat block and bge block is the exact same block just the hellcat is torque honed and painted orange
..and back in 2015, Engine Masters proved a Truck 5.7 "Eagle" headed Hemi with a Paxton Centrifugal Supercharger with a Blow through hat, made 660hp / 538tq with belt slip at around 7,000rpm.
The day i decide to pay $20,000 to get my scatpack boosted, is the day i decide to just change my car for something else.
I used to go out on the street with my modded quad and race boosted civics and WRX these kids had down the block. We’d only race like blocks length maybe 400-500’. It was actually quite fun outrunning most of them. I knew I couldn’t do it at the strip but it was fun on the back street of our neighborhood.
the hellion twin turbo kit 🙌
I believe they started putting the BGE block in all chargers/challengers from 2018 up
Preach like the people in the comments saying your the greastest black youtuber. Feelings got hurt that day
They love to hate when a white man praises a black man. Wake up people my children are half black and mixed with my white Indian self. Do you GURU. Love the videos!
The 392 is meant for the old man trying to relive his golden muscle days😂🤣😂🤣
So why all the young dudes sliding them. Hellcats going for at 60k plus , 35k is a used scat that's a big difference . I could argue more scats are on the road than hellcats in my area in Florida.
@@invalidusername_5101 thats how it's supposed to be. You see more camaro ss than zl1s. More mustang gts than gt350/500.
This guy salty asf, guaranteed he pushing a bucket wit a busted a$$ bih
Yeah, me and all my pals
@@blackvin4439 yut, i just wanna hear the ponies in my 6.4
Just give me 700whp for the streets and im good😎
2018+ 6.4 blocks are BGE blocks for scat packs
I thought everyone knew this lol
I have an 18 charger scat, im new to this game. What does BGE block mean? Any advice
@@brandonramey4114it’s a stronger block for boost , compared to 2017 and before scatpack or srt8 with the 6.4 but you still need pistons and rods
@@carlosmijares8854so I have a SRT 392 Durango I’m new as well but after I change my pistons and rods would I be in the green to super charge it?
@@TopRankFirearms if you have a BGE block which I think you do , pistons and rods will help you with boosting the car , only worry would be the transmission and supporting mods after a while
Those 6.4 hemi’s outta those 2500 work truck pretty much better and more bulletproof than a 6.4 outta scat pack aren’t they?
I mean did you watch the video? He literally says that.
What block does the Durango 6.4 have? From the challenger or charger or pickups?
@@lh32186 Durango haves same thing
The same block from the cars or pickups?
@@ulisesvega1080 same as what fool? The cars or trucks...
im thinking of keeping my 392 and just building it up myself rather than saving for a hellcat. for me its a $25k price difference which could be put towards mods. hopefully making more whp in the end. my thing is I could do it over time without have a car payment and sky high insurance costs. Im probably gonna start by getting a forged block or going with what you recommend. mines a 2012 srt8. it's a beautiful car that'd be sick as a sleeper.
Just get a BMW
😂😂😂 wait wait wait how do my man just go bald that fast in the video😂😂😂❤❤ that's why I love this guy❤❤😂😂
I got a jeep 392 and was thinking about putting the Magnuson or whipper supercharger but don’t want to breakdown while off-roading middle of nowhere ! I know Magnuson is only 5lbs but still
5.7 is still the best way to go
Forged internals out the box💪🏾💪🏾
for boost yeah
For price reasons yes
If you own a 5.7 everyone will clown you say why didn’t you get a scat or hellcat? Only guys talking up the 5.7 are the same ones who couldn’t afford the hellcat. Sure you can build the 5.7 throw a supercharger on there. But all the cat needs to do is pulley swap with bigger injectors boom 900 crank hp and 800 wheel. While 5.7 is still under stock hellcat power. I’ve owned 3.6 5.7 and currently have. 454 scat pack being built by mmx and 2.85 upper pulley hellcat making 800 wheel.
@@SRTGHOSTS not everybody starts out the gate making “hellcat” money. And me personally I don’t care nor do I surround myself with mfs that’ll clown me for owning a certain vehicle. The 5.7 is a great motor to start with if you’ve never had a v8 or a rwd car and if you’re itching for more power, you can just mod it instead of trading the car in to try to find a non marked up scatpack or hellcat. And no shit the hellcat modded will always be faster than a modded 5.7, it’s a bigger motor that was made for a supercharger
It's been proven with LS Vortec's. I wonder if it's also true with F150 Coyote's?
The coyotes are great out the box like an ls/vortec with bonus dohc heads they just cost more to build and tune but greater benefits if u have the money for it last I checked it cost 2 ls builds per 1 ford of the same level of out come
@@WRENCHGODLLC Interesting
Was looking fo this block a while back. Think I'll look again. Just want one on the stand to play around with and someday...
Not bad motor just keep it NA.Wasnt built for boost...
What about the 6.1 from a 2006 300C SRT8?
What say you on a boosted 392/426 stroker? What work would have to be done and what power figures before tuning could I expect?
Dodge parts are WAY too expensive...
2018 and up scatpack’s come with the BGE blocks
Source?
Dodge website
Great engine until it shreds the last cam lobe randomly
“Nastier than an old man with a foot fetish” 😂😂😂😂
great info
6.4 Hemi V8 engine Ram Truck version in 2500hd and RAM 3500hd 6.4 is stronger than Car Scat Pack/392 6.4 Hemi V8 all the parts interchangeable from 5.7 Hemi V8 engine, 6.1 Hemi V8, 6.2 Hellcat Supercharger Hemi V8, 6.4 392/ Scat Pack Hemi V8 ,
Wrong. In 2018, all 6.4s became the BGE block...
Truck hemis all day
If you have a 2016 and up 392 then it's already a BGE. The blocks prior to that were the old style.
Thank you
It's 2018
imagine scat pack outside and hellcat redeye inside
Absolutely!!
What can you say about a GMC typhoon?
I have a 1996 Ford bronco Eddie Bauer 351w. How to unleash the power?
I feel like dodge did this on purpose. If they used the same block or made it easier to make power.. I feel like people wouldn't even really care about getting a hellcat. The 5.0 mustang can make this on stock block, internals and all. No GT500 needed
I have a bge block from a 2021 scat? Can that be the same?
or you can supercharge with the torqstorm centrifugal supercharger
The 392 is the most traditonal na big engone muscle cars
My 21 scat came with the BGE block . All 6.4 after 2014 I think are BGE
What is bge?
@@DomHitEmUp450 ( big gas engine ) and I think it’s actually 2018 and up
Which heads ?? Just get the stock heads ported u say??
They still heavy though I wonder how can you take out 700lbs with out the car being a shell 😂💯
My charger is 4000 with the push bar and signal lights
Who's gonna do all that just drive the car lol
A lot of misinformation going on here but at the end of the day you buy a Scatpack for a fun reliable good power daily. If your goal is to win races even hellcats are too heavy
if you made 700 scatpack power what would be faster a hellcat or scatpack
Cat
If you boost the scat after you build the motor it would be faster if it's 700 na
AKA 6.4 "LONGBLOCK".
Ford's make that power all the time with only 302cid😮
Me putting 12lbs of boost on my stock 392 👀
I want HP if a hellcat and gas mileage of Prius
Nah, I'll stick with my 5.7 . Even with forged internals they still stronger than the scats .
A 5.7 with forged internals and boost😏 hellcat who?
Quick question, could we skip the cam and just do pistons and rods to handle the boost
I don’t see why not. But the can gives you about 50hp through the WHOLE RPM range w a tune. And might as well since the engine going to be apart already
@@austin549 appreciate the reply, going to skip the pistons and rods for now maybe upgrade them in 2 years. I’m going to post some chop videos of the cam sometime later after the setup
Can you put a hellcat Supercharger on a 2014 SRT?
you can put it on yes , just gotta watch how much boost your trying to put out .
Question?
What if you sleeve the cylinders?
For that kind of money swap in a hellephant if ur gonna spend 30,000 on a car
Question: why are these engines so expensive to modify? Im just curious since im not familiar with this platform, im more of a windsor/modular ford guy.
It’s strictly cuz nobody makes aftermarket parts for them to the same degree as an LS or Coyote.
If you’re building one and want it done cheap, for us 5.7 guys anyway, the best bet is to put hellcat stock headers and get a whipple. Easy money for 500+hp safely. Obviously a tune…… but even with this route you’re still looking at 12k ish.
Apologies for being so late to the party lol
@@michaeljosey879 not a problem, thanks for the response. It's absolutely mind boggling then that the HEMI, probably one of the most famous v8 engines of all time, have a more limited aftermarket then an LS and coyote. Although I like the idea of a whipple 5.7
I like how you do these short clips
But as a poor man listening to a rich man's hobby all I hear is this
Get a 20k car
Buy 15k worth of upgrades/ add ons
5k trans
2k rear end
7k labor
Relationship with woman lost
RiMs and tires 4k
Car end up broken or stolen
= Skidrow, broke, and lonely!
Remember this is a poor man's thought
To whom can afford this, make a poor man like me happy and take me for a short ride.
Snatch 2 gears And and and and let me out! I'll appreciate it 😳
@@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit
It was fiction! So everyone lives on 😂
@@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit
Good lawd!! I bet it's fun.
Thank you for even offering
And may the car gods bless you with
Max HP with 0 maintenance forever more🙏🏾
@catalyst_99
The only thing you should long term financially plan for is assets that will gain returns over time.
Cars is a liability especially the ones with upgrades. So if you have to save just to do this, you can't afford to do this.
The spending in this game is neverending
@catalyst_99
Congrats on your purchase and I hope you enjoy every mile I really do!
These engine swaps and rebuild (top and bottom) + trans, rear end, fuel pump, injectors, computer and the list go on and on. So once you do start to make crazy hp, that's when shit start to break every freaking week!
I been thrown my towel in
Hp is not cheap and it continuously cost. What break first the wallet or the passion.
@@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit
Ha😂 that's funny
You can get hellcat power by buying a hellcat
Nitrous is definitely fun. Long tube headers, comp performance cam, diff brace/lockout, Hellcat axels/suspension and a 150 shot of NO2. Destroys hellcats. TRUST ME it’s proven. Less than a 9k
392s come with hellcat axles bro
I’m running pretty much everything you said besides a cam and longtubes except I’m doing a 200 shot on mine
@@392ant3 that’s what’s up. That’s definitely my setup. I have a 2018 R/T Scatpack and i had to swap axels and a lil bit more suspension work. But I’m killing Hellcats in the 1/8th. Where you located?
@@omegared3922 I’m in Michigan
@@392ant3 I was up that way in Philly a couple months ago. I’ll be back in February. We should link and run em 😈😈
More like 6 lbs of boost
You can do all that but still not going to get the resale value
No shit Sherlock lol
@@mattjingles5758 do you even own a Mopar 🤣
First
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You have no sound
People want their boats to be fast so bad after getting gapped by 4 cyl turbos 🤣
Any car can get gapped 😂😂😂
@@J_GoldieLocfacts
👍🏾
Easy answer. SPEND 25k+
Hey bro you have an email?.was trying get more power from a 5.7 350 Chevy motor
Ima keep diss in mind
How much power can you get outta just keeping it NA?
600-630, and might take a 250 shot.
@@HansBelphegormight ?
My 392s been running 7lbs for 120,000 miles. Got it with a whipple from a dealer in Illinois. They said ring gap had been changed thats all they did internally. Great thing was it was warrantied for 100,000 miles. Car had never been sold before i bought it so i dont know how they did it but i never had a prob with it except the driveshaft. 2 failures, one at 2,500 miles and the other at 7,000 miles. They went with a stronger shaft the 3 time and have never had a problem since. I will never sell this car. Got the Mopar logo in the seats and gauges. Never seen another like it...
You got to give us a video
They do not change the ring gap. They change the pistons because the ring lands are too high up on the stock pistons
@@mrwhamisrick Stop pontificating on s*** you don't know. Opening the ring gap can slightly lower compression and make it easier for the 6.4 to take some boost, but It mainly keeps the edges of the piston ring from touching and fusing under heavy load and expansion...
What’s the name of the place that did the whipple
You can make 1000 plus on a stock 6.4 Apache block with forged internals
That's alot of H.P.
Again correcting this guy over 5lbs of boost is bad because of rings not pistons or walls very thick again this guy knows nothing
bro u look so high lmfao
My man fucken loves his arp head studs
It may just be wiser to go with a forged 392 block from HHP. This way you're not trying to go with a Frankenstein -like, conceptual art build.
Warping cylinder walls? Even the non bge blocks are super strong its all in the pistons not the blocks
10lbs of boost is enough for a street car, it'll put you on par with a stock hellcat. Faster than a S197 GT500, and a lot of shit.
The procharger is a good choose if your setup is right
Hey Guru please do a video on 1970-1972 Datsun 240z sleepers with 2JZ motor swap and the infamous transaxle from pontiac
It’s like everyone loves these and thinks they are so fast. My Gen 1 coyote eats them up 😂
Agree 🧢 ain’t neva had a coyote eat shit from me
Unless that mf got e85 then I’m dusted but stock for stock 🧢
That's not what the video is about lol
No one cares... How does that you make you feel? I break necks daily in my Widebody Scat Chally... Kids constantly asking me to rev the engine or asking their parents what kind of car is that? Old men coming up and chatting me up, talkin about their old muscle car and how much they love my car.... No one looks a second time at your dime-a -dozen mustang... It may be faster, but it ain't cooler....
@@DemocratsRDemonsI know it. Even the little 4 and five year Olds be yelling scatpack, scatpack. 😂😂😂
Bro go look at the Gen3 hemi offered by the company LateModelEngines.