@@CP-kb1du But she nailed the role... which is exactly what acting is about.
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Vasquez should've been out on an agrarian colony world in United Americas' territory, tending to a stove and quizzing her kids for upcoming exams while her husband was out in the dark reaches of deep space blowing bugs away while enduring hell as a USCMC jarhead, assuming all vocational risk while she quietly and comfortably held down the domestic front awaiting his return. No woman should have to die as she did, facing the shit she did. She should've been happy.
@@normturner4849 and this video is proof enough. It's like listening to a talk on adventure travel by someone who is still wearing baby diapers and has yet to leave mamas house and acatually see the big world.
Lol - I remember a scene from ‘Who Framed Roger Rabbit” when Yosemite Sam‘s ‘biscuits were burning’ - his derriere was incinerating; Right before he jumped in the puddle he said “great horny toads, ‘that smarts’” - It was often common vernacular back in the days past prior to the 80’s… The interesting thing about the English language is that you can have one word with a plethora of different meanings… …As an adjective, ‘smart’ generally refers to intelligence… However as a verb and a [North American / informal] second noun, the word “smart”, as in the case of these machine guns [and Yosemite Sam’s biscuits], is in context to debilitating, stinging pain.
I love this gun! It's literally an MG42 mounted on a cameraman's singular swivel mount used for multi-angle shots in movies with spade handles and the pistol grip removed! Even in the future the Germans know how to suppress fire!!
Spade Handles on an MG42? I think youre confusing this gun with a Ma Deuce or M2 50 cal. All they removed was the stock which was replaced with a motorcycle grip with clutch/brake handle for the trigger and the pistol grip. Kinda cool how they rigged it up to fire this way. They used a tube housing a cable that was spring loaded. Where the trigger is they enclosed it in a box that had a rod mechanism that when the brake handle was squeezed, it pulled the rod back that depressed the trigger. Its the same concept that was used on M60D as seen used by most door gunners in the UH-1 Huey during Vietnam. You can tell this if you see the aircraft sight or bullseye type sight as well as a feed chute similar to a minigun and a large canvas type covering which is actually a brass collection housing. The M60D also has a set of spade grip in place where the shoulder stock would be. The M60D is also the gun that was used in the original version of Red Dawn in place of the DShK Heavy Machine Gun used by the Russians and The Wolverines in the movie. The only thing that was added was the octagonal barrel device on the end of the barrel
@@christopherbordelon5960 Let me elaborate and stand by what I said. A spade grip handle was used to attach to the back of the buffer. This allowed the buffer to function with blanks as needed and didn't allow it to excessively vibrate for stability, nor did the tabs or the recuperator. This is how the originals were made, including the charging handle using a spade grip handle. If I were referring to a spade grip of a Ma Duce, I would have said spade "grip", not spade "handle". I know very well how these guns were made. I have TWO original mg42's. One an "ar" or Mauser-Werke, Borsigwalde late 43' date code and a "BNZ" Waffenfabrik Steyr 1944 manufactured model. I had one set up for years as an M56 in a Dummy state until I built it into a restored functional Semi-auto MG-42. The other I have not decided if I want to leave a parts kit or REWAT it. I am also well aware of what a Spade Grip is as I also have one on my 1919A4 Israeli build. Gun came originally with the pistol grip the the Izzy's used the spade on their ww2 1919's given to them as most were converted to a general purpose and to 7.62 nato which mine is. So I kept mine with the the spade. I used the lever and cables on mine from a 1977 Suzuki 250 GT, the spade handle on the buffer from a Swedish anti aircraft gun, a .50 BMG spade grip handle was inletted and attached to the charging handle and made sure to rotate slightly so that as you pulled back on it it would turn in your hand as the charging handle engaged the ratchet plate. Similar to how the originals were made. the cable coupled to a carburetor linkage that would trip the sear and make a dry fire with no pistol grip attachment. The camera mount I used was a cheap Taiwanese single position like in the movie but when you let go of the gun it dropped down, it didn't stay where you let go of it. When I built mine semi auto I had to remove the sear trip and thus the M56 setup would no longer work for a semi auto MG42. The only way to get one to work semi auto is to modify the grip stick which isn't needed in full auto or for the movie prop. I have not found a way to make mine an M56 clone that I can shoot at the range.
As a kid I was hesitant to watch sci fi horror movies such as aliens. I remember my mother watching this masterpiece and listening from another room. The sounds of the pulse rifle and the smart gun fascinated me they were like nothing I'd ever heard. I finally worked up the courage to walk in the room and asked what was she watching "Aliens" she said and started the movie over so I could watch. Those weapons started a great passion for science fiction and some of my best childhood memories.
My mom kinda mixed. She allow me and my sis watch horror like Alien and The Thing, but disallow "adult" theme like James Bond movies or anything who show nudity for that matter. Kinda shape my preference today
Pulse rifle, no question. Although the smart gun has more firepower, it's bulky, and uses ammo too quickly. The pulse rifle is easier to carry, more marines use it than the smart gun, meaning ammo is more available, and it has the underslung grenade thumper, which can be used for area clearance.
Not as heavy as a gun that needs an arm connected to a harness to use. I'm with the pulse rifle. It's much better for maneuverability and versatility and if or when it runs out of ammo you don't have to work your way out of a body harness to ditch it.
Definitely the pulse rifle. In addition to the cons already mentioned, the 30 degree tracking cone also makes the smart gun really cumbersome to use in a CQB situation. Not to mention it's length.
@@then00brathalos yeah, those are 7.62×51mm crimped blanks in a standard german 49-link modular belt on the feed tray of a H&K MG3. Fun fact, the parts of an MG3 is fully interchangeable with the parts from a WW2 MG42, but only the bolt, bolt carrier, feeding mechanism and trigger group can be used with either barrel and recoil booster as the external circumference and rim of the 7.62×51 is the same as the 7.92mm Mauser cartridge brass, but the case length, bullet measurements, case neck taper and propellant load is different.
For those that don't know - There are two parts to the -round- ammunition. The part that does the sending and the part that gets sent. 1) The Projectile which gets sent, may have such as a Full Metal Jacket surrounding a lead core - or - an internal charge that can detonate. 2) The Propellant part which does the sending - primarily consisting of the powder that burns really fast such that the gas released by it's burning pushes the Projectile out the barrel. This powder may be contained and ignited in different ways. It is in how this powder is contained and ignited that the issue of Caseless Ammunition exists. Ammunition which uses Powder Bags - is Case Less - but that isn't what's referred to by Caseless Ammunition. Here the Propellant is in solid form and may have attached to the back end a base containing a primer to ignite it. "Caseless" ammo does NOT (as in the picture) have a brass casing around it - with a grove in the base of the case for an extractor to grab and pull the case out of the weapon. There is only the propellant which is solid enough (i.e. not a powder) that it doesn't need to be contained in anything. When the round is fired - the ENTIRE Propellant part of the round is consumed - so that there is nothing to eject. The problems with Caseless Ammo tend to be of two natures, one in that the propellant is not protected by an external container and is subject to such as moisture and rough handling. The other is that while it is supposed to be entirely consumed when fired ... it sometimes isn't ... and that leads to fouling of the weapon - or - I should say _more_ fouling than with powder contained in a case. With the powder contained in the case - some of any unburned powder might well be ejected with the case - instead of having been sent down the barrel to foul that. Apparently, from what I've learned from other commenters in the course of this discussion - the science of Caseless Ammunition has greatly improved since it's early days and is now more widely used. .
The smart gun was freaking awesome in the video game 'Alien vs Predator' (the latest version one) definitely felt more confident walking those dark halls with that serious piece of tech.
I like how in the Alien vs Predator (2000) game, with every Marine weapon you shoot an Alien, its limbs might end up twitching. With the Smart Gun, they all fall flat. They never twitch at all.
Vasquez and Drake practically saved the marines in the hive as they retreated thanks to their smart guns. They were the only ones who did any real damage to the xenomorphs save for Hick's "close encounter" in the APC. Afterwards the remote sentry guns thinned out the xenomorph numbers enough to allow Ripley to venture into the hive alone with her pulse rifle and flamethrower. The pulse rifle is legendary, but the smart gun is my personal friend when it comes to killing aliens.
They were the only ones who did any damage because they disobeyed orders and kept their spare batteries. Unfortunately, during the firefight, they caused damage to the reactor which is why they had limited time before it reached critical mass and blew up but you’re right. If it wasn’t for them disobeying orders, they would have all been killed or cocooned immediately during their first encounter.
@nunosapunso6239 that was the crash of the dropship that caused the fusion overload. Notice that it kept on rolling until the dropship hit the critical side of the processor?
It's from videos of the prop gun. Understandably, Alien Theory used what was available. Also, they are blanks, and not _ammunition._ One just goes boom; the other goes boom and has a projectile. I'm being anal about it becasue such a distinction is very important for safety reasons.
@@necrosteel5013 unless the accuracy is so great it keeps shooting bullets through already made holes in tough enemies, can't exactly kill them by passing bullets through 1 hole xD
Possibly an allusion to the Bren gun, which some gunners claimed was "too accurate" to be a truly effective suppressive weapon, and that to get a good spread of fire you had to fan it about judiciously.
I remember reading about this weapon in a book long ago, with 2 conflicting view points. The first, regarding it's reliability and the fact that it was prone to malfunctions, jamming and took a lot of maintenance. The second, that when it worked it was almost supernatural in it's ability to kill, describing a marine entering a room, pulling the trigger, and the gun targeting and killing everything. "Just eerie in it's effectiveness" or something to that effect. A very cool idea however impractical.
This is just a quality, well made presentation. Great job! Even more phenomenal is the fact this is technology from a fictitious origin, but one gets the feeling this is an actual real time briefing.
@@rpscorp9457 Not only could we, it would actually make a lot of sense, tactically. A stabilizing arm to assist full auto fire would be awesome, as would be auto-targeting. The harness also allows the operator to easily maneuver and use a weapon much too large to otherwise be fired while mobile. Additionally, the video neglected to mention one other firing position available to the operator, an above shoulder position used for firing over cover. Since the gun has a camera, the operator can fire from such a position accurately without exposing themselves.
@@jadedandbitter Second part of your comment is a great point. First part is debateable. The M60 MG for example proved to be inferior to the replacements namely the M249 LMG and the M240G MMG. A light machine gun like the M249 is a true single-man assault weapon being less heavy (weapon AND ammo) than the medium machine gun M240G which is a crew-served weapon for most effective use. The M60 in theory filled both roles; neither one particularly well tbh. However, the concept looks real cool for movies and video games just like fragmentation grenades that create huge fireball explosions. Theatrics and real life effectiveness tend to be very diferent things from one another.
@@sempergumby3929 Well, to compare the M60 or M240G to the M249, you have to look at the rounds. 7.62 NATO FMJ doesn't offer a lot of advantages over its 5.56 counterpart in assault scenarios, since below certain ranges/above certain impact velocities the 5.56 will yaw and fragment significantly, creating wound channels remarkably similar to a 7.62, but without the added weight and recoil. The main advantage the 7.62 has is its superior range, and stopping power at range, as the 5.56 can become significantly less lethal once its velocity drops below the magic number, 760 m/s; but at the ranges required in assaults, the engagement ranges assault rifles are designed for, that shouldn't be much of an issue. But that's FMJ. When comparing hypothetical HEAP or HEIAP ammo in both calibers, 7.62 would be expected to be much deadlier than 5.56, as it has higher kinetic energy, a larger penetrator and a larger explosive charge. Then, at any range, the 7.62 outperforms the 5.56. And, while such ammunition is currently prevented by the Hague convention, it doesn't mean that it wouldn't be invaluable for wrecking an enemy position were it legal. Additionally, guns like the MG42(which were what was used for the smart gun props) were intended for defensive use, not advancing suppression and flank tactics. The M249 with its mobility is perfect for that role- but that's only because pulling the same stunts like shoulder firing from a standing position with an MG42 are pretty impossible. But the MG42? Hell of a weapon. Its insane ROF made bursts far more accurate than comparable MGs, and it was incredibly powerful and effective in both direct fire and suppression usage, as many surviving US GIs would later attest. Imagine though, that you could use an MG42 for an assault- that you had a 1300 RPM machine gun that not only could you fire on the go with, but also fire with computer aided accuracy and recoil control while doing so? And firing high caliber HEAP rounds the whole time? IDK about you, but I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that. One other thing- the reason the steadicam harnesses were added was because the actors couldn't carry and use the modified MG42s properly- the harness put the weight on their hips, which made them manageable. I think there's also a lot of value in making a machine gun more manageable in terms of its weight distribution, especially for extended marches.
@@jadedandbitter 👍 man it is SOOO refreshing to see a comment from someone who knows their shit, unlike idiots who can't comprehend that 'bullet' means 'bullet' or even projectile as opposed to a cartridge or round.
There's one feature you've missed out on the M56A2. The main reason why it's called a "smart gun". It's main feature isn't that the gun can, to some degree, self-aim towards a target, it's the headset in which targets are tracked. As the entire weapon is made up of the gun, breastplate and headset HUD to operate, the headset uses an IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) system. It doesn't utilize purely infrared otherwise other humans could become a target. With the IFF you could point the gun at a fellow marine and pull the trigger, and if the system detects a friendly in the line of fire, it won't fire at all. That's where it gets its "smart gun" name from. This is where the games mistake the "smart gun" feature because they explain it away as simply being able to lock-on to an enemy without explaining it. Also, using only an infrared targeting system it would defeat the gun's use against Xenomorphs. This is proven by the Aliens movie itself when the marines are first exploring the atmosphere processing station, as Corporal Dietrich scans a wall and says "maybe they don't show up on infrared at all" just before an alien climbs off the very wall she's just scanned and lifts her upwards. Sure she doesn't have a M56A2 on her, but she IS still using another HUD to scan in infrared anyway. Not only that, consider this: the Predator's vision mode shows humans up in thermal imaging/infrared mode, and Xenomorphs in an EM mode which, while EM does stand for ElectroMagnetic, I think you've theorized on alien blood before so I can't say alien blood is strictly EM, but as aliens don't show up infrared in either human or Predator tech, how would the M56A2 be able to track aliens in the games? My theory is it's utilizing its camera not only for infrared, but also in the standard spectrum of light we see, analyses each frame of image for movement and when it detects movement it combines infrared with basic motion detection to track a target, and if it doesn't identify the object as friendly, the targeting box appears in the HUD and gun is moved (unless manually moved elsewhere by the operator). I would also like to think Marines would also carry RFID chips to broadcast to smart weapons as well as extra protection from friendly fire which may also be implemented into the guns IFF systems.
Technically, infrared imaging might be useful in detecting xenomorphs - but not the way you think. Because of thermal radiation, where ever a xenomorph is standing will cause heat transfer (whether TO the xenomorph or FROM the xenomorph). Meaning that you can see environmental background effects even if, some-fucking-how, xenomorphs can't be seen on IR (I've always called bullshit on that, they are moving creatures - MOVING CREATURES GENERATE WASTE HEAT FROM MOVING). Even commercial FLIR cameras/gun sights *_today_* that you and I can go out and buy off the shelf can already do things like see waste heat in foot prints from a human walking with shoes on. Imagine what the military would have access to over a century from now. Also, things like LIDAR or motion sensors (which we do know work on the xenomorphs - although we don't know exactly what kind of technology the USCM's motion detectors use) aren't out of the question either.
matchesburn Yeah exactly. Friction, no matter how small, leads to heat generation even in well lubricated joints. Alien Theory says the gun only uses IR which prompted me to say that. I mean, technology-wise, in Predator 2 Keyes shows Harrigan a clip of a cloaked Predator running around a roof, and the system still detected it. That was 1997 in that film and 2183 in Aliens so I'm pretty damn sure the gun tracks more than just simple IR. But even if it did, I felt me pointing out the flaws in that design needed saying.
Out of interest, where are you getting this information re the IFF capabilities? It makes sense, but it's not in the script. Is it in the TM? I don't have mine handy.
I bet those were 7.62×51 crimped blanks and H&K MG3s rather than collectors antique MG42s. Visually and mechanically, it's the same weapon, the barrel and muzzle recoil boosters are the only critical differences and the parts are interchangeable. The case dimensions behind the neck is identical between the two, the 7.92 just has a bit longer case and larger bullet. The modular 49-link steel belts are still used in many countries and can also be used by any other 7.62 NATO GPMG such as the FN MAG 58 or M60 etc.
some images are from the movie which used a MG42 as the base for the gun and hence uses the same ammo. In universe the ammo is different. Same thing goes for the pulse rifles which are actually tommyguns. It is a matter of fiction vs movie props.
Its also not even close in appearance to a 10x28mm round , such a round would look basically like a pistol cartridge pretty close to a .40 S&W round. Being caseless with high energy propellant makes it plausible as a rifle round though and its ranges in the various Wiki suggest it has a range of 500 meters. I'd guess a velocity of around 800 meters per second at the muzzle. Its honestly a bit of a weird design
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I choose the m56a2- at first I considered the pulse rifle, mainly because it seems more maneuverable, but then I realised that if a xenomorph gets close enough for that to matter, you're likely to get covered in acid anyway.
Replace the grenade launcher with a underslug shotgun and shock ammo(ACM yes i know bad game) and you could potentially keep them off you by simply give them a high voltage shock and running off.
With the soon to be launched Alien Fireteam, I ended up on this awesome channel. Fascinating technical breakdown of the pulse rife and smart gun. Still amazing to think that decades later these guns have become so iconic.
@@Hecameup Having the firepower necessary is useless if you can't maneuver your weapon around corners. Hence why Hence why in CQB operations, most military units will opt for shorter barreled, lighter weapons; such as the MP5 or similar (or maybe a Colt Commando aka CAR 15); rather than something like a .249 B or an M2. So, now that I have given that super serious response; I know your comment was likely just a joke; because who among us HAS tried to kill an alien? Unless you mean illegals (not cool bro, lol)? Which is still a no for me. lol
The first movie would have been so much shorter if Ripley had one of those on top of the flamethrower she had, on the Nostromo. Xenomorphs definitely warrant usage of this weapon. Nostalgia! 😆😎
Combo Move: Dress up in smart gun armor, Take Pulse rifle without grenade attachment but has either shotgun or flamer attachment instead. Motion tracker and tracking watch's are a must have items as well. My thinking is this: This gives the widest range of scrounging ammo on a battlefield via dead ppls for pulse, flamer, or shotgun ammo plus remember pulse rifle grenades in the movie Aliens can be used traditionally as well ( RIP Vasquez and CO ) so as you scrounge you collect those as well. If you find a unattached or un-expended smartgun, well alrighty then your all dressed for the party but I definitely won't be limiting myself to one weapon system, sorry peeps. I'm also assuming both loadouts include can also mean knives, flamers and sidearms since the film showed such.
@@TheRealPDizzle Well, if needs must and sharp pointy stick(er) is handy....lol but tbh if your down to that you've already proceeded that with "and he threw the kitchen sink at it Too!" Agreed.
The M56A2's articulated arm is actually the arm used for steadycams used by camera operators. The "Aliens" film makers took a look at the steadycams and decided to use them for this awesome scifi weapon.
Once upon a time, I was a soldier and when I first saw this otherwise excellent movie I had a little chuckle to myself about a man-portable machine gun that can be fired only from a standing position - and sounded like a toilet flushing when it fired. I see, however, that, according to this video, it can be fired from the prone position - as long as the gunner is lying on his back, with his feet towards the target.... Jesus Christ! And that muzzle flash! The whole idea of a flash eliminator is the *hide* the flash that would betray the gunner's position. 2:26 Did he say 17.82 kilograms? Hells bells! The Bren Gun and General Purpose Machine Gun that I used weighed 11.3 kg each and I was sick of carrying either one by the end of a day's hiking through rain forest.
The dumbest gun ever. This would never pass military spec. A weapon (GPMG of all things) that is unable to be fired from behind cover while it uses the wielder themselves as a bipod. Unable to be fired from a normal kinetic prone position,.. how are you going to fire this from a trench? A dugout? From behind a tank? A weapon that is air cooled yet is suggested to rest on the soldier (heat?). A weapon that weights 17 kg and that is attached and you can't drop and pickup during a malfunction, while having protrusions and loose hanging wires to snag. It also provides tracking images to the wielder in the "8-10 meter range"? 8-10 metres, wow. That's up to 30 ft away. WHile modern GPMG effective range is 1100 metres (3300 feet). It's beyond stupid. Like literally everything about it is stupid from a military standpoint.
Ok, so it seems the movie crew made the concept for the gun to apply to the very specific scenario in Aliens, corridor/room battles against a horde of enemies that can only use melee attacks... but that cool factor though! 😎
he didn't show it in this video but there is a diagram of using this from behind cover. because of the targeting system, the user can fire from cover more safely than a conventional weapon.
What's cool is the guns in the Aliens universe is based off real guns. The M41A pulse rifle is based off the tommy gun. I think they even took tommy guns and modified them for the filming of Aliens. The smart gun I believe is based off the German MG-42. Hell they look almost identical if you take all the high tech stuff off.
Correct and correct. That's true of most films, though. They need a gun that will reliably fire blanks, then they build up the sci-fi gun around it. The pulse rifle is a combination of a Thompson and a SPAS-12, though I believe the internals of the grenade launcher were not from the same shotgun. The M56 is made from the MG-42 and parts from a Kawasaki motorcycle. The sniper rifle from the tech manual is a Walther WA-2000, the handguns are of course HK VP-70's and a Colt 1911. I liked that in the Colonial Marines game they continued the trend, modeling the SMG after a Walther MP-9? MPL? I don't recall the name off the top of my head.
that is very cool weapon design also he way it is held would give presence and motivation on the battlefield you could also program it for z patterns or other handy patterns.
I originally thought that drake and vasquez were lovers, but after watching the movie a couple of times, I realized that they were 'buddies' like a soldiers bonding with another soldier
The Marines were fuckups, chosen as pasties. I dont know why no one catches onto that? Ripley knows it, as is evident in numerous instances, such as her incredulous reaction to a bunch of alleged hardass veterans, bitching and crying about a 3 week hypersleep. Their NCO constantly tolerates insubordination, etc.
@@springbloom5940 That's an interesting assessment but I don't think they were "fuck ups" per se, simply ill-equipped. They couldn't send crack marines because that would reveal that they know this is a credible threat - or suspect it. So they took what they were given, and the military is famous for sending only what the minimum of what they think you need, and a half-credible bug threat that they might've downplayed probably only mustered a standard skeleton crew. There's nuclear submarines still running on Windows XP for this same reason. They'd been told they were going on a bug hunt and this was the chosen squad. Marines in general can be quite unruly during downtime, but on-mission they were pretty on point. Nobody really believed Ripley's stories, so they didn't send the best team, especially considering they had to convince the military to send assets...but it was in their best interests to send a capable team for combat data and to ensure a specimen would be retrieved, and that they would be forced to retreat. Burke knew everything, he wouldn't have gone out with incapable marines - just ignorant ones. When Ripley is briefing them, they don't really believe what she's saying and likely have been told that they believe she's mentally unstable. Given that they sent only this team, they likely really believed it wasn't going to be so bad. It wasn't until their arrival do they tense up, realizing the colony is gone, but it takes a while for them to realize they even have an enemy here. They were likely wrestling with the idea that the colony deserted, there was an uprising, or possibly a large industrial accident resulting from something more minor. They postulate some ideas like this early on in the investigation. In the field they definitely followed orders, not as tightly as first-class marines would, but enough to suggest military discipline was in force. Listening to Gormon's orders, most telling, says they knew there'd be punishments if the chain of command wasn't followed. By the time Gormon is issuing orders of a life-and-death scale, they fall in line, despite having objective reasons to be truly insubordinate. I think Hicks keeping his shotgun loaded might've been an offense, but given the situation he had plausible deniability - and likely the shotgun isn't using a slug, so he might've understood the orders and extrapolated it was safe to use. A serious misconduct, sure, but plausibly deniable and one nobody was like to notice if it was unnecessary. The other Marines carrying extra ammo smart gun however might've been in serious breach, but military order famously break down in combat scenario's, even among Marines. A combat scenario like this, where they were immediately overmatched especially, it's to be expected. Their overconfidence likely came from the fact that the only bugs they'd likely fought were glorified cockroaches or spooky but otherwise harmless space entities, at worst similar to bears or mountain lions. Scary stuff if lions are hunting and you send soldiers after them, especially in inhospitable otherworldly terrain - but this was an order of magnitude outside that. Military discipline needs to be enforced as well - Gorman gave orders to Sarge, who they didn't disobey. On the ship, sure, they were definitely unruly and messing around, but bunk discipline is easy to enforce when you're in a space station that takes care of most of your worldly needs, and you have a protocol robot. We also don't know the side effects of hypersleep, it might be complaint worthy. Don't get me wrong, in real life military discipline is paramount, but when you're dealing with a crew that's largely traveling in civilian area's doing civilian works, these guys aren't holding themselves in the highest military regard, but that all comes down to how Sarge chose to run his team. They definitely weren't polished examples of military discipline, but bear in mind this is also military discipline in a future where your technology makes being in the military a cushy job. Meanwhile this is also military assets deployed to determine the fate of private assets and civilians - that's highly unusual as-is. We're not looking at the military as you and I know it. Today's Marines are serious business, no disrespect to them, but they are also wildcats outside, they get off base and lose their minds. I definitely would say that their candor was definitely lax, but given this small team is utterly alone 8 million miles from backup probably meant morale was dangerously low, and small observations could save lives. If you take the situation into account, if you sent modern Marines into a scenario like that, that under-equipped and ill-managed protecting a private interest, I would suspect a strong uptake in military lingo and discipline the moment things got bad, probably more than the movie presents. But I wouldn't call this group utterly lacking, other than Gorman and possibly the flight crew who opened the cargo door and the pilot who ignored that fact, but that could be explained away by the pilot not actually hearing what the flight crew said or not realizing he'd opened the cargo door. I'm not sure if those were civilian flight crew - but definitely that'd be some kind of negligent breach of protocol I wouldn't expect to see from any pilot - or intelligent human beings concerned with self-preservation. I'm not saying this out of the air either, I wasn't in the military but almost all my friends were, and they have much worse stories of tolerated insubordination - some of their people were utterly incapable of actually following orders because they couldn't actually understand any of the vocabulary being used... and these people were guarding nukes or important military assets. The military puts all kinds to use.
Which one would I choose? PULSE RIFLE! Here's why. Assuming infinite ammo (this was not specified, so assuming ammo is no concern), both weapons have advantages and drawbacks. The Smart Gun has many advantages, targeting being one of the best, but in the end it's still just a glorified spray-and-pray. You can lay down a lot of fire on targets, especially en masse, BUT, it's also large and heavy, making it cumbersome and difficult to maneuver and aim in tight, enclosed spaces. The Pulse Rifle on the other hand carries the same amount of ammo (99rds), and while it may not unleash as much fire on targets or deal as much damage in a burst, it still delivers adequate damage to get the job done, and its smaller, lighter form allows much more maneuverability and ease of aiming at a target, especially in close quarters when it would be needed most. It can also be used even up close (Smart Gun is so big and long, once an enemy is up on you it's practically useless). On top of that, any damage dealing the pulse rifle lacks when compared to the smart gun, it more than makes up for with the 4-shot grenade launcher, making the pulse rifle much more versatile than the singularly purposed smart gun. Even better of taking Aliens Colonial Marines into account, where the pulse rifle could swap out its underslung grenade launcher with a shotgun or flamethrower as needed depending on the circumstances. All that being said, even if ammo IS a concern, both weapons carry the same number of rounds (99), but the pulse rifle would be better at conserving ammo and making it last longer and being more effective, where the smart gun would wind up wasting bullets in hails of fire. The smart gun would run out first, but in the hands of a good shooter, the pulse rifle would last longer. It would also allow a marine, shooter, etc, to find a good spot to set up and hide for an ambush, where the smart gun would be bulky and make such options limited
Even in the lore, the grenade launcher was cited as a huge problem, because it caused a lot of friendly fire incidents, while the technology employed by the smart gun.
I'd probably go with the smart gun as it fires the heavier round and I'd need the extra punch to make sure the target goes down first time. Yeah I'd be a little concerned with mobility, but if I could find a place to lock down with a choke point I'd want the most rounds down range as possible.
5:20 i've always assumed that was Cameron demonstrating the Smartgun automatically locking and tracking Newt moving across the frame, rather than Drake simply spotting her and moving the gun himself, if thats the case it was a nice addition.
Yeah that was hilarious. The first set shown were blanks even. These are fan-boy sci-fiers here not firearms experts. Good 'ol MG42 just keeps getting around.
I think that's from behind-the-scenes footage, a part of the prop that's not actually shown in the film. It doesn't really fit with the "technical manual" that was written after-the-fact, does it.
Shawn Thompson prime example the railgun is as real as a heart attack a lot of those gun are very real in COD so if that gun is not I don't think it far too off from being real
dion jay woollaston Nope, not true. Hasn't been true since at least WWII and even then we used stuff that the Army didn't like camouflage uniforms and amphibious tractors. Now a days all of our stuff is bought new, even if some of it might not be new by the time you get it but it's not hand me downs from the Army. A good example of this is the M16A2 which was designed by and for the Marine Corps and ended up being adopted by all branches of the US military. The last time that we got Army hand me downs was during Desert Storm when got some old Army M1 Abrams, but this was only because we were just starting to transition to M1s at that time and we didn't have any or many yet but we were going to get factory fresh ones.
Fantastic quote that made me smile....but if that's your choice in firepower given the question of which weapon. You are a human incubator my friend 😂😂😂😂
Depending on the scenario, as it looks like a squad covering weapon. I would opt to use it if I were in a group or alongside someone else with the smart gun, but if it was just me I would use the pulse rifle.
That's where I thought Gorman was being a real idiot and his inexperience really showed. Instead of telling Apone how to fall back to the APC, just tell him to fall back to the APC and let him work out the details. The man was what, a Staff Sgt. or Gunny, this means that he's been in the Corps a while and knows what he's doing and, being the one actually out there in the thick of things, probably has a much better idea of what's going and probably has the same or a better idea of how to fall back.
I love your videos and I would love if you did a video on the UD-4l Cheyenne drop ship. Talking about weapons other stats, that would make an excellent video.
2300 AD, originally titled Traveller: 2300, is a tabletop science fiction role-playing game created by Game Designers' Workshop (GDW) and first published in 1986. This game had this sort of detail and weapons in it. The tech was based on real 1980 DARPA future technology stuff. The explanations for how this stuff worked was next level.
The smart gun is such a cool weapon in games. Speaking of which, in some of the shots you showed the game Aliens: Colonial Marines. This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I personally enjoyed the game. Maybe not GOTY 2013, but definitely enjoyable. It was like the Marine campaign in Aliens vs Predator, but longer. Which, meant more time playing with some cool Marine toys, including the Smart gun. Not ashamed to say I like the game.
A lot of the flak came from the wonky alien ai, apparently the coder typed "teather" instead of "tether" in a line of code. If you play it on PC you can actually fix the typo and play it how it was meant
Pulse Rifle, no question. 1. its less bulky, weighs less and has a smaller profile, meaning that it can get into much tighter areas no problem. 2. while less immediate firepower I can carry more ammunition, and I have the pump-action grenade launcher if needed.
Your videos are great and well explained i loved the smartgun my favorite weapon in the Aliens universe especially in the game Alien Trilogy. Could you cover a topic on the Motion Tracker? Its my favorite device :D
@@dongately2817 mostly the elite especially the SS but standard infantry had normal large production weapons especially late in the war like the MP3008 or the Karabiner 98K basically the Mosin of Germany with around 14 million made.
The fact that the "mg3" is still firing today and that they finally managed to transform a movie prop concept into reality (the gun stabilized harness) makes you wonder how much time does it take before they just put the two together
@@rocket_sensha4337 umm... in this form, never. There is no place on any battlefield for a squad support weapon that can't be used without exposing the operator completely to enemy return fire.
Smart gun is epic and the AVP game offered alot of fun with it. However the pulse rifle is quite handy as well and seem more practical in really tight CQB, whereas the smart gun seem more beneficial for crowd control in areas where you can tactically bottleneck the opposing force approaching in vast numbers.
I LOVE the smartgun and the firing sound! but in that situation described at the end of the video, i'd have to go with the Pulse Rifle! And the grenade launcher is a plus too - thin out the herd of Xeno's ;) If I had two team mates carrying Pulse rifles, then i'd go for the Smartgun!
When I played Infection in Halo and if I can detach a turret, I always imagine I'm holding a smart gun and holding off the xenomorphs. Bonus points of the infected are Elites.
In the extend cut of Aliens, Hudson refers to the smart gun as a "particle beam phalanx" insinuating that it doesn't fire bullets. The gunners were even seen giving up batteries instead of magazines when ordered to hand over their ammo. The prop guns needed ammo in the movie though, since they fired blanks.
I know you want me to choose the M56 Smart gun but I am going with the Pulse Rifle. It is smaller, easier to handle in close quarters and has grenade launcher. Do you see how helpless the gunner would be going around a corner. Then all that gear slowing you down. not saying that the Pulse rifle is lite but it is liter and less in the way than the smart gun. That's why weapons like this are used in support.
I used to own that headset worn by Drake. It was damaged (probably when he torn off all his gear off as he was falling back to the APC), but the main body and eye piece were intact. It had a little TV screen inside the eyepiece. The detail still blows my mind
remembering the scene in the drop ship en route to the air processing stations civilian complex, "Hadleys Hope".. the Lieutenant.. alright lets see what we can see... checking camera feeds.. Drake check your camera there seems to be a malfunction *Drake smacks the camera into his seat restraint* *Static sounds* camera picture clears up.. Thats Better xD
as newt said: "It wont make any difference" but The smart gun will keep you alive longer for backup arrival in "17 days" lol doubt you make it 17 hours.
I would choose the M56, as it’s targeting feature would help to compensate for my poor eyesight. I can see the shapes of things, but not many details. Also, I am comforted by the idea of wielding such a large, reliable weapon.
The smartgun was always my favorite gun in the Alien universe ( in so far as ground forces). Everybody I know seems to like the pulse rifle. But head to head the. Smart gun opperator far out guns a pulse rifle user.
Yea but the Pulse Rifle user and Smart Gun user aren't going head-to-head. They're fighting the Xenos, and the odds favor the Pulse Rifle user more since they can get away if overwhelmed. Smart Gun wielders will get overwhelmed if they stay in one spot or have to move, carrying a big heavy gun around only to either have it slow them down, run out of bullets, or even just overheat the barrel from firing so much.
Vasquez was amazing. Her iconic scene inside the spaceship with that gun is in my mind forever. Wonderful Jenette Goldstein.
Hollywood Casting a White Jewish woman playing a Latin Female ..
@@CP-kb1du But she nailed the role... which is exactly what acting is about.
Vasquez should've been out on an agrarian colony world in United Americas' territory, tending to a stove and quizzing her kids for upcoming exams while her husband was out in the dark reaches of deep space blowing bugs away while enduring hell as a USCMC jarhead, assuming all vocational risk while she quietly and comfortably held down the domestic front awaiting his return. No woman should have to die as she did, facing the shit she did. She should've been happy.
@@CP-kb1du so glad they did. Not because of the race thing, but because she was perfect in it.
@@CP-kb1du when they do it with robert downey junior they freak out, but when it's a white jewish woman no one bats an eye.
Love the fact it's an MG 42 under all those cosmetics, and the body mounting interface really is the 'future' for such weapons. Just as DARPA.
Star Wars used the 34 for one of their blasters. lol They are iconic guns.
MG42 could be in service for over 100 years in 2 decades time it was that on the mark of design.
He broke that shit down, like it was a real weapon.
It is a real weapon
Aliens was a documentary LOL
@@Mr_Originality I read an article that stated it was made from several real gun assemblies.
@@azmike3572 It uses as base the real WWII german MG 42.
@@CommanderTato Yup. Which makes it even more badass.
back in the 90's I thought the name "smart gun" was kind of weird. But now it makes total sense since everything else is "smart" now.
smart pistol from titanfall 1 & 2
zogmorp
...except people.😆
@@normturner4849 and this video is proof enough. It's like listening to a talk on adventure travel by someone who is still wearing baby diapers and has yet to leave mamas house and acatually see the big world.
Lol - I remember a scene from ‘Who Framed Roger Rabbit” when Yosemite Sam‘s ‘biscuits were burning’ - his derriere was incinerating; Right before he jumped in the puddle he said “great horny toads, ‘that smarts’” - It was often common vernacular back in the days past prior to the 80’s…
The interesting thing about the English language is that you can have one word with a plethora of different meanings…
…As an adjective, ‘smart’ generally refers to intelligence… However as a verb and a [North American / informal] second noun, the word “smart”, as in the case of these machine guns [and Yosemite Sam’s biscuits], is in context to debilitating, stinging pain.
@@sempergumby3929 what the hell are you even on about
As God is my witness, Aliens gave us some of the best military sci-fi concepts in decades.
actually, aliens took it from Starship Troopers, ain't brand recognition a Beauty
Best Sci-fi: Alien series.
Best Fantasy: Star Wars series. ( The "Hobbit" is close 2nd).
Amin !
Halo franchise had a great inspiration from this movie (as said by the creators)
@@killian9314 aliens came out before Starship Troopers...
I love this gun! It's literally an MG42 mounted on a cameraman's singular swivel mount used for multi-angle shots in movies with spade handles and the pistol grip removed!
Even in the future the Germans know how to suppress fire!!
Best gpmg ever made
Spade Handles on an MG42? I think youre confusing this gun with a Ma Deuce or M2 50 cal. All they removed was the stock which was replaced with a motorcycle grip with clutch/brake handle for the trigger and the pistol grip. Kinda cool how they rigged it up to fire this way. They used a tube housing a cable that was spring loaded. Where the trigger is they enclosed it in a box that had a rod mechanism that when the brake handle was squeezed, it pulled the rod back that depressed the trigger. Its the same concept that was used on M60D as seen used by most door gunners in the UH-1 Huey during Vietnam. You can tell this if you see the aircraft sight or bullseye type sight as well as a feed chute similar to a minigun and a large canvas type covering which is actually a brass collection housing. The M60D also has a set of spade grip in place where the shoulder stock would be. The M60D is also the gun that was used in the original version of Red Dawn in place of the DShK Heavy Machine Gun used by the Russians and The Wolverines in the movie. The only thing that was added was the octagonal barrel device on the end of the barrel
@@christopherbordelon5960 Let me elaborate and stand by what I said. A spade grip handle was used to attach to the back of the buffer. This allowed the buffer to function with blanks as needed and didn't allow it to excessively vibrate for stability, nor did the tabs or the recuperator. This is how the originals were made, including the charging handle using a spade grip handle. If I were referring to a spade grip of a Ma Duce, I would have said spade "grip", not spade "handle". I know very well how these guns were made. I have TWO original mg42's. One an "ar" or Mauser-Werke, Borsigwalde late 43' date code and a "BNZ" Waffenfabrik Steyr 1944 manufactured model. I had one set up for years as an M56 in a Dummy state until I built it into a restored functional Semi-auto MG-42. The other I have not decided if I want to leave a parts kit or REWAT it.
I am also well aware of what a Spade Grip is as I also have one on my 1919A4 Israeli build. Gun came originally with the pistol grip the the Izzy's used the spade on their ww2 1919's given to them as most were converted to a general purpose and to 7.62 nato which mine is. So I kept mine with the the spade.
I used the lever and cables on mine from a 1977 Suzuki 250 GT, the spade handle on the buffer from a Swedish anti aircraft gun, a .50 BMG spade grip handle was inletted and attached to the charging handle and made sure to rotate slightly so that as you pulled back on it it would turn in your hand as the charging handle engaged the ratchet plate. Similar to how the originals were made. the cable coupled to a carburetor linkage that would trip the sear and make a dry fire with no pistol grip attachment. The camera mount I used was a cheap Taiwanese single position like in the movie but when you let go of the gun it dropped down, it didn't stay where you let go of it. When I built mine semi auto I had to remove the sear trip and thus the M56 setup would no longer work for a semi auto MG42. The only way to get one to work semi auto is to modify the grip stick which isn't needed in full auto or for the movie prop. I have not found a way to make mine an M56 clone that I can shoot at the range.
It is an MG42, with a couple of cosmetic and mechanical modifications lol
@@reallifetoji hence why I said "it's literally an mg42"
As a kid I was hesitant to watch sci fi horror movies such as aliens. I remember my mother watching this masterpiece and listening from another room. The sounds of the pulse rifle and the smart gun fascinated me they were like nothing I'd ever heard. I finally worked up the courage to walk in the room and asked what was she watching "Aliens" she said and started the movie over so I could watch. Those weapons started a great passion for science fiction and some of my best childhood memories.
Your mom sounds like the best the way she started the movie over for you 🤟 respect 😎👍
Great story!
That's an awesome mom
I had a cool mom that let me see R Rated movies too. :)
My mom kinda mixed. She allow me and my sis watch horror like Alien and The Thing, but disallow "adult" theme like James Bond movies or anything who show nudity for that matter. Kinda shape my preference today
Pulse rifle, no question. Although the smart gun has more firepower, it's bulky, and uses ammo too quickly. The pulse rifle is easier to carry, more marines use it than the smart gun, meaning ammo is more available, and it has the underslung grenade thumper, which can be used for area clearance.
Mr Zero I think the underslung grenade launcher makes the weapon heavier. Does it?
Not as heavy as a gun that needs an arm connected to a harness to use. I'm with the pulse rifle. It's much better for maneuverability and versatility and if or when it runs out of ammo you don't have to work your way out of a body harness to ditch it.
Pulse rilfe with an incendary launcher and a laser sight.
the incendary rounds are perfect keep chokepoints down and hold the xenos off your back.
Definitely the pulse rifle. In addition to the cons already mentioned, the 30 degree tracking cone also makes the smart gun really cumbersome to use in a CQB situation. Not to mention it's length.
Exactly.
1:50 - Caseless rounds
1:58 - Casings, Casings everywhere.
The case is on the projectile soft lead on the outside to protect the barrel and give the round mass
@@andy56730 Wut?
@@andy56730 no that was the non disintegrating links
@@then00brathalos yeah, those are 7.62×51mm crimped blanks in a standard german 49-link modular belt on the feed tray of a H&K MG3.
Fun fact, the parts of an MG3 is fully interchangeable with the parts from a WW2 MG42, but only the bolt, bolt carrier, feeding mechanism and trigger group can be used with either barrel and recoil booster as the external circumference and rim of the 7.62×51 is the same as the 7.92mm Mauser cartridge brass, but the case length, bullet measurements, case neck taper and propellant load is different.
For those that don't know -
There are two parts to the -round- ammunition. The part that does the sending and the part that gets sent.
1) The Projectile which gets sent, may have such as a Full Metal Jacket surrounding a lead core - or - an internal charge that can detonate.
2) The Propellant part which does the sending - primarily consisting of the powder that burns really fast such that the gas released by it's burning pushes the Projectile out the barrel. This powder may be contained and ignited in different ways.
It is in how this powder is contained and ignited that the issue of Caseless Ammunition exists. Ammunition which uses Powder Bags - is Case Less - but that isn't what's referred to by Caseless Ammunition. Here the Propellant is in solid form and may have attached to the back end a base containing a primer to ignite it.
"Caseless" ammo does NOT (as in the picture) have a brass casing around it - with a grove in the base of the case for an extractor to grab and pull the case out of the weapon. There is only the propellant which is solid enough (i.e. not a powder) that it doesn't need to be contained in anything. When the round is fired - the ENTIRE Propellant part of the round is consumed - so that there is nothing to eject.
The problems with Caseless Ammo tend to be of two natures, one in that the propellant is not protected by an external container and is subject to such as moisture and rough handling. The other is that while it is supposed to be entirely consumed when fired ... it sometimes isn't ... and that leads to fouling of the weapon - or - I should say _more_ fouling than with powder contained in a case. With the powder contained in the case - some of any unburned powder might well be ejected with the case - instead of having been sent down the barrel to foul that.
Apparently, from what I've learned from other commenters in the course of this discussion - the science of Caseless Ammunition has greatly improved since it's early days and is now more widely used.
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The smart gun was freaking awesome in the video game 'Alien vs Predator' (the latest version one)
definitely felt more confident walking those dark halls with that serious piece of tech.
It's equally awesome in every other Alien/AVP game it is featured :)
@@leventebolyos8060 No its not
I like how in the Alien vs Predator (2000) game, with every Marine weapon you shoot an Alien, its limbs might end up twitching. With the Smart Gun, they all fall flat. They never twitch at all.
Vasquez and Drake practically saved the marines in the hive as they retreated thanks to their smart guns. They were the only ones who did any real damage to the xenomorphs save for Hick's "close encounter" in the APC. Afterwards the remote sentry guns thinned out the xenomorph numbers enough to allow Ripley to venture into the hive alone with her pulse rifle and flamethrower. The pulse rifle is legendary, but the smart gun is my personal friend when it comes to killing aliens.
They were the only ones who did any damage because they disobeyed orders and kept their spare batteries. Unfortunately, during the firefight, they caused damage to the reactor which is why they had limited time before it reached critical mass and blew up but you’re right. If it wasn’t for them disobeying orders, they would have all been killed or cocooned immediately during their first encounter.
"say hello to my little friend" :)
@nunosapunso6239 that was the crash of the dropship that caused the fusion overload. Notice that it kept on rolling until the dropship hit the critical side of the processor?
> "Caseless ammo"
> Shows an image of cased ammunition.
oops
It's from videos of the prop gun. Understandably, Alien Theory used what was available.
Also, they are blanks, and not _ammunition._ One just goes boom; the other goes boom and has a projectile. I'm being anal about it becasue such a distinction is very important for safety reasons.
H&K G11 uses caseless ammo.
This one isn't caseless, that's the pulse rifle
AussieBlokeGordo They’re both supposed to take the same ammo
Looks like a motorbike and the MG 42 got a little frisky.
Lucius Avenus
As well as a camera operators Steadi-cam body rig, so...a three way. Frisky indeed!
Could be an MG3.
The alloy latice frame on the side is from a Kawasaki Gpz1100 footrest assy.
@@judsongaiden9878 its got the ww2 aa mount on the receiver.
@@ProjectStrum Good eye.
Apparently, the smart gun was so damn accurate that it put bullets down holes it already made. So they actually had to dial down its accuracy.
You can never not have too much accuracy
@@necrosteel5013 unless the accuracy is so great it keeps shooting bullets through already made holes in tough enemies, can't exactly kill them by passing bullets through 1 hole xD
@@comradneptic4740 not unless they are flak rounds that blow up within the proximity of the targets internals, that could work with bigger bullets.
Possibly an allusion to the Bren gun, which some gunners claimed was "too accurate" to be a truly effective suppressive weapon, and that to get a good spread of fire you had to fan it about judiciously.
Nukes from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
〈YellowDevil〉 gold
〈YellowDevil〉 I love you.
〈YellowDevil〉 thought of a better idea, just send Godzilla down there
Fuckin' A man
〈YellowDevil〉 stay on the ship
MG42 with a couple motorbike handles attached to it?
Yup!
but its a space MG42
On a steadycam rig
and it has an aimbot
Still cool as shit
I remember reading about this weapon in a book long ago, with 2 conflicting view points. The first, regarding it's reliability and the fact that it was prone to malfunctions, jamming and took a lot of maintenance. The second, that when it worked it was almost supernatural in it's ability to kill, describing a marine entering a room, pulling the trigger, and the gun targeting and killing everything. "Just eerie in it's effectiveness" or something to that effect. A very cool idea however impractical.
"Every bullet had gone through the same hole"
Like most squad support weapons, an undeniably powerful piece of kit, but you still need riflemen to back it up.
Pulse rifle, can't shoot yourself with the smart gun.
That... is a good point
Mate.... grim......but an excellent point, I'd rather brain myself than have some spider fuck shove it's alien dick all down my shit
@@dixonbainbridge923 Xenos are giant intergalactic rapists.
@Duncan Fenwick Not with that attitude you can't.
Idunno...looks like Fig 2.10 @4:08 shows ol' Drake about to blow his toes off in a "sweeping" motion...
RIP BILL PAXTON
to cast Bill Paxton, is to kill Bill Paxton
darth wint Paxton was and will always be remembered as an absolute boss! He was great in every movie👌🏻
“Game Over man, Game over”!
@@LibertyLou_
Hey Hudson, here's another quarter,
Peace
Game over man, game over!...
😥😥😥
I loved how Ripley taped the pulse rifle with the flame unit. That gives you a good chance against the odds.
Self-made ultimate weapon, Ripley is a genius.
This is just a quality, well made presentation. Great job! Even more phenomenal is the fact this is technology from a fictitious origin, but one gets the feeling this is an actual real time briefing.
im pretty sure we can actually make these today:).
@@rpscorp9457 Not only could we, it would actually make a lot of sense, tactically. A stabilizing arm to assist full auto fire would be awesome, as would be auto-targeting. The harness also allows the operator to easily maneuver and use a weapon much too large to otherwise be fired while mobile.
Additionally, the video neglected to mention one other firing position available to the operator, an above shoulder position used for firing over cover. Since the gun has a camera, the operator can fire from such a position accurately without exposing themselves.
@@jadedandbitter Second part of your comment is a great point.
First part is debateable. The M60 MG for example proved to be inferior to the replacements namely the M249 LMG and the M240G MMG. A light machine gun like the M249 is a true single-man assault weapon being less heavy (weapon AND ammo) than the medium machine gun M240G which is a crew-served weapon for most effective use.
The M60 in theory filled both roles; neither one particularly well tbh. However, the concept looks real cool for movies and video games just like fragmentation grenades that create huge fireball explosions. Theatrics and real life effectiveness tend to be very diferent things from one another.
@@sempergumby3929 Well, to compare the M60 or M240G to the M249, you have to look at the rounds. 7.62 NATO FMJ doesn't offer a lot of advantages over its 5.56 counterpart in assault scenarios, since below certain ranges/above certain impact velocities the 5.56 will yaw and fragment significantly, creating wound channels remarkably similar to a 7.62, but without the added weight and recoil.
The main advantage the 7.62 has is its superior range, and stopping power at range, as the 5.56 can become significantly less lethal once its velocity drops below the magic number, 760 m/s; but at the ranges required in assaults, the engagement ranges assault rifles are designed for, that shouldn't be much of an issue.
But that's FMJ. When comparing hypothetical HEAP or HEIAP ammo in both calibers, 7.62 would be expected to be much deadlier than 5.56, as it has higher kinetic energy, a larger penetrator and a larger explosive charge. Then, at any range, the 7.62 outperforms the 5.56. And, while such ammunition is currently prevented by the Hague convention, it doesn't mean that it wouldn't be invaluable for wrecking an enemy position were it legal.
Additionally, guns like the MG42(which were what was used for the smart gun props) were intended for defensive use, not advancing suppression and flank tactics. The M249 with its mobility is perfect for that role- but that's only because pulling the same stunts like shoulder firing from a standing position with an MG42 are pretty impossible. But the MG42? Hell of a weapon. Its insane ROF made bursts far more accurate than comparable MGs, and it was incredibly powerful and effective in both direct fire and suppression usage, as many surviving US GIs would later attest.
Imagine though, that you could use an MG42 for an assault- that you had a 1300 RPM machine gun that not only could you fire on the go with, but also fire with computer aided accuracy and recoil control while doing so? And firing high caliber HEAP rounds the whole time? IDK about you, but I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that.
One other thing- the reason the steadicam harnesses were added was because the actors couldn't carry and use the modified MG42s properly- the harness put the weight on their hips, which made them manageable. I think there's also a lot of value in making a machine gun more manageable in terms of its weight distribution, especially for extended marches.
@@jadedandbitter 👍 man it is SOOO refreshing to see a comment from someone who knows their shit, unlike idiots who can't comprehend that 'bullet' means 'bullet' or even projectile as opposed to a cartridge or round.
I love this channel; all of the intricacies about Alien I loved as a kid thoroughly explained. 33 years old now. Thank you.
Does not matter what gun I have. All I need is to know is; where, they, are 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@G E T R E K T 905 Anytime, anywhere!
"right right...she heard "alien" she thought they said "ilegal alien" and signed up".....
@@FireTiger941 THEYRE EVERYWHERE MAAAAAN !!!!! GAME OVER MAN !!!! GAME OVER !!!!!
Oorah to ashes
@@Dan-ob7it "F*ck you, man" lol
I prefer to use... 'Harsh language'.
I feel safer already...
Or sharp sticks.
Talk to me Hudson!
Ahh. Multiple signals... they're closing.
Over, say again, all after incinerator....
There's one feature you've missed out on the M56A2. The main reason why it's called a "smart gun". It's main feature isn't that the gun can, to some degree, self-aim towards a target, it's the headset in which targets are tracked. As the entire weapon is made up of the gun, breastplate and headset HUD to operate, the headset uses an IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) system. It doesn't utilize purely infrared otherwise other humans could become a target. With the IFF you could point the gun at a fellow marine and pull the trigger, and if the system detects a friendly in the line of fire, it won't fire at all. That's where it gets its "smart gun" name from. This is where the games mistake the "smart gun" feature because they explain it away as simply being able to lock-on to an enemy without explaining it.
Also, using only an infrared targeting system it would defeat the gun's use against Xenomorphs. This is proven by the Aliens movie itself when the marines are first exploring the atmosphere processing station, as Corporal Dietrich scans a wall and says "maybe they don't show up on infrared at all" just before an alien climbs off the very wall she's just scanned and lifts her upwards. Sure she doesn't have a M56A2 on her, but she IS still using another HUD to scan in infrared anyway. Not only that, consider this: the Predator's vision mode shows humans up in thermal imaging/infrared mode, and Xenomorphs in an EM mode which, while EM does stand for ElectroMagnetic, I think you've theorized on alien blood before so I can't say alien blood is strictly EM, but as aliens don't show up infrared in either human or Predator tech, how would the M56A2 be able to track aliens in the games? My theory is it's utilizing its camera not only for infrared, but also in the standard spectrum of light we see, analyses each frame of image for movement and when it detects movement it combines infrared with basic motion detection to track a target, and if it doesn't identify the object as friendly, the targeting box appears in the HUD and gun is moved (unless manually moved elsewhere by the operator). I would also like to think Marines would also carry RFID chips to broadcast to smart weapons as well as extra protection from friendly fire which may also be implemented into the guns IFF systems.
Technically, infrared imaging might be useful in detecting xenomorphs - but not the way you think. Because of thermal radiation, where ever a xenomorph is standing will cause heat transfer (whether TO the xenomorph or FROM the xenomorph). Meaning that you can see environmental background effects even if, some-fucking-how, xenomorphs can't be seen on IR (I've always called bullshit on that, they are moving creatures - MOVING CREATURES GENERATE WASTE HEAT FROM MOVING).
Even commercial FLIR cameras/gun sights *_today_* that you and I can go out and buy off the shelf can already do things like see waste heat in foot prints from a human walking with shoes on. Imagine what the military would have access to over a century from now.
Also, things like LIDAR or motion sensors (which we do know work on the xenomorphs - although we don't know exactly what kind of technology the USCM's motion detectors use) aren't out of the question either.
matchesburn Yeah exactly. Friction, no matter how small, leads to heat generation even in well lubricated joints. Alien Theory says the gun only uses IR which prompted me to say that. I mean, technology-wise, in Predator 2 Keyes shows Harrigan a clip of a cloaked Predator running around a roof, and the system still detected it. That was 1997 in that film and 2183 in Aliens so I'm pretty damn sure the gun tracks more than just simple IR. But even if it did, I felt me pointing out the flaws in that design needed saying.
Out of interest, where are you getting this information re the IFF capabilities? It makes sense, but it's not in the script. Is it in the TM? I don't have mine handy.
Doesn't Keyes say it is Pheremone tracking for the Concrete Jungle Predator in that image? (Been a while...)
JonMacFhearghuis Found another reference: www.altrion.org/max/aliens/tec-personal.html, might be helpful.
"Caseless projectile" and shows what is clearly a Cased 7.92mm bullet belt.
I bet those were 7.62×51 crimped blanks and H&K MG3s rather than collectors antique MG42s.
Visually and mechanically, it's the same weapon, the barrel and muzzle recoil boosters are the only critical differences and the parts are interchangeable.
The case dimensions behind the neck is identical between the two, the 7.92 just has a bit longer case and larger bullet.
The modular 49-link steel belts are still used in many countries and can also be used by any other 7.62 NATO GPMG such as the FN MAG 58 or M60 etc.
some images are from the movie which used a MG42 as the base for the gun and hence uses the same ammo. In universe the ammo is different. Same thing goes for the pulse rifles which are actually tommyguns. It is a matter of fiction vs movie props.
@@SonsOfLorgar 7.62 mm
Its also not even close in appearance to a 10x28mm round , such a round would look basically like a pistol cartridge pretty close to a .40 S&W round. Being caseless with high energy propellant makes it plausible as a rifle round though and its ranges in the various Wiki suggest it has a range of 500 meters. I'd guess a velocity of around 800 meters per second at the muzzle. Its honestly a bit of a weird design
I have a new respect for James Cameron. This is one of the more elaborate yet well-thought-out movie weapons out there.
His name is James, James Cameron!
The bravest pioneer!
No budget too steep, no sea too deep
Who's that?
It's him, James Cameron!
James, James Cameron explorer of the sea
With a dying thirst to be the first
Could it be? Yeah that's him!
James Cameron!😄
I choose the m56a2- at first I considered the pulse rifle, mainly because it seems more maneuverable, but then I realised that if a xenomorph gets close enough for that to matter, you're likely to get covered in acid anyway.
Replace the grenade launcher with a underslug shotgun and shock ammo(ACM yes i know bad game) and you could potentially keep them off you by simply give them a high voltage shock and running off.
@@Psychoangel-d23 But the “grenade launcher” on the Pulse Rifle is the receiver of a Spas 12 so it’s already a shotgun.
@@STREET24000 even easier then. just swap ammo types for shock rounds. If it comes closes it'll be having the taste of copper in it's mouth
"LET'S ROOOCK...BRRRR...BRRRRRRR...BRRRRRRR"
One could argue that was the turning point for the entire movie!
I love that part!
Соrrect TRRRRRRR, TRRRRR, brrrt it's a A10 plane))
@Michael Orlow good))
Alex Scott YEAH!!! *fires*
That's the gun Megatron should transform into.
Lmao😂 I'm with it👏🏽
I'd like to see video about Automated Sentry Guns.
One of the best scenes. I still have NO IDEA why it was deleted.
@@willy565 because it was too effective and made the aliens seem too killable.
Pretty sure those are the smart guns with a portable turret and 500 round ammo box
Mate.. I love you're channel. It's like being a youngster again and re-living those great times in the 80s.
Love the pulse rifle, really do, but gonna have to go with the M56A2 smart gun on this one.
Me too
I'll take an aa-12 with drum mag plz and thank you
id choose smart gun.
i only need to know one thing......where. they. are
They're right beside you, Gorman and that grenade you have
Yeah, right. Someone said "aliens" she thought they said "illegal aliens" and signed up.
Hey Hudson, fuck you man. (RIP Bill Paxton)
Anytime man (RIP Bill Paxton)
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I hope you're right because one of those things managers to destroy my entire crew so I really hope you're right
With the soon to be launched Alien Fireteam, I ended up on this awesome channel. Fascinating technical breakdown of the pulse rife and smart gun. Still amazing to think that decades later these guns have become so iconic.
You're the UA-camr of my dreams.
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Winter Wolf damn skippy, second that.
Far too big for CQB (Close Quarter Battle], and should therefore never used when entering a structure with small pas ways.
Dude have you ever tried to kill an Alien? Overkill is the Goal
@@Hecameup Having the firepower necessary is useless if you can't maneuver your weapon around corners. Hence why Hence why in CQB operations, most military units will opt for shorter barreled, lighter weapons; such as the MP5 or similar (or maybe a Colt Commando aka CAR 15); rather than something like a .249 B or an M2. So, now that I have given that super serious response; I know your comment was likely just a joke; because who among us HAS tried to kill an alien? Unless you mean illegals (not cool bro, lol)? Which is still a no for me. lol
What do you want use man, harsh language?
@@thewolfsdenoutdoors7009 WTF are you going on about 😂
The smart gun is certainly a creation of the movie's rule of cool. It was the 80's, man. Overkill was the defining theme of that decade.
Doesn't matter what weapon I have because I'm taking a Bill Paxton clone with me EVERY time!
Your videos have rekindled my love for the alien series.
Demonic Jedi Ikr 😍😍😄
I always love the quote from the Technical Manual, about operators deactivating the auto-aim: "They wanted to HOSE that thang, man!"
Vasquez was HOT in this! I don't care what anyone says.
Yes very
Yea she was
..it seems to me she and drake were a thing
Really nice boobs
In truth Jeanette Goldstein is actually a very petite very feminine woman. Shes a great actor though. Took the role seriously
Dude why would anyone disagree? Vasquez was such a hottie! I actually swooned when I first saw her. We need more woman like her!
I just need to know one thing:
*where.they.are.*
That was music to Ripley's ears.
The first movie would have been so much shorter if Ripley had one of those on top of the flamethrower she had, on the Nostromo. Xenomorphs definitely warrant usage of this weapon. Nostalgia! 😆😎
Combo Move: Dress up in smart gun armor, Take Pulse rifle without grenade attachment but has either shotgun or flamer attachment instead. Motion tracker and tracking watch's are a must have items as well.
My thinking is this: This gives the widest range of scrounging ammo on a battlefield via dead ppls for pulse, flamer, or shotgun ammo plus remember pulse rifle grenades in the movie Aliens can be used traditionally as well ( RIP Vasquez and CO ) so as you scrounge you collect those as well. If you find a unattached or un-expended smartgun, well alrighty then your all dressed for the party but I definitely won't be limiting myself to one weapon system, sorry peeps.
I'm also assuming both loadouts include can also mean knives, flamers and sidearms since the film showed such.
Fair assumption about loadouts but melee combat with a xenomorph is futile and thus renders the knife pointless as a defensive tool.
@@TheRealPDizzle Well, if needs must and sharp pointy stick(er) is handy....lol but tbh if your down to that you've already proceeded that with "and he threw the kitchen sink at it Too!" Agreed.
The M56A2's articulated arm is actually the arm used for steadycams used by camera operators. The "Aliens" film makers took a look at the steadycams and decided to use them for this awesome scifi weapon.
I like how irl this thing was a mashup of a motorcycle, camera and a machinegun
Depends on where I make my stand. If I can force them to go into a choke point then the smart gun it is, if I need to be mobile, pulse rifle.
Once upon a time, I was a soldier and when I first saw this otherwise excellent movie I had a little chuckle to myself about a man-portable machine gun that can be fired only from a standing position - and sounded like a toilet flushing when it fired. I see, however, that, according to this video, it can be fired from the prone position - as long as the gunner is lying on his back, with his feet towards the target....
Jesus Christ!
And that muzzle flash! The whole idea of a flash eliminator is the *hide* the flash that would betray the gunner's position.
2:26 Did he say 17.82 kilograms? Hells bells! The Bren Gun and General Purpose Machine Gun that I used weighed 11.3 kg each and I was sick of carrying either one by the end of a day's hiking through rain forest.
The dumbest gun ever. This would never pass military spec. A weapon (GPMG of all things) that is unable to be fired from behind cover while it uses the wielder themselves as a bipod.
Unable to be fired from a normal kinetic prone position,.. how are you going to fire this from a trench? A dugout? From behind a tank? A weapon that is air cooled yet is suggested to rest on the soldier (heat?). A weapon that weights 17 kg and that is attached and you can't drop and pickup during a malfunction, while having protrusions and loose hanging wires to snag. It also provides tracking images to the wielder in the "8-10 meter range"? 8-10 metres, wow. That's up to 30 ft away. WHile modern GPMG effective range is 1100 metres (3300 feet).
It's beyond stupid. Like literally everything about it is stupid from a military standpoint.
Ok, so it seems the movie crew made the concept for the gun to apply to the very specific scenario in Aliens, corridor/room battles against a horde of enemies that can only use melee attacks... but that cool factor though! 😎
Ryan Otte yep. It’s still the coolest looking gun I ever saw.
Oh definitely, the main corporation, Weyland-Yutani, is the one supplying the Colonial Marines so they don't have a choice, unfortunately.
he didn't show it in this video but there is a diagram of using this from behind cover. because of the targeting system, the user can fire from cover more safely than a conventional weapon.
It doesn't require a strict set of skills. It requires you to a) shout 'Lets rock!' and b) pull the trigger.
What's cool is the guns in the Aliens universe is based off real guns. The M41A pulse rifle is based off the tommy gun. I think they even took tommy guns and modified them for the filming of Aliens. The smart gun I believe is based off the German MG-42. Hell they look almost identical if you take all the high tech stuff off.
Pretty sure the pulse rifles firing sound is a tommygun fired backwards, and I know that you can get a pulse rifle kit for an air soft tommygun
TimmyPool yeah, there's also a ready made airsoft pulse rifle, the Snow Wolf M41A.
Yeah, the gun squad tactic is pretty much German WWII MG squad tactic, just scaled down.
Motorcycle parts from a ducatti iirc
Correct and correct. That's true of most films, though. They need a gun that will reliably fire blanks, then they build up the sci-fi gun around it. The pulse rifle is a combination of a Thompson and a SPAS-12, though I believe the internals of the grenade launcher were not from the same shotgun. The M56 is made from the MG-42 and parts from a Kawasaki motorcycle. The sniper rifle from the tech manual is a Walther WA-2000, the handguns are of course HK VP-70's and a Colt 1911. I liked that in the Colonial Marines game they continued the trend, modeling the SMG after a Walther MP-9? MPL? I don't recall the name off the top of my head.
Nerf needs to replicate these for their dart gun lines.🤘😜
Or you can do IT yourself
iam for airsoft version...or paintball :D
@@rambo8863 almost impossible
Someone made their own, there is an extensive video on it.
And now they have, for the pulse rifle lol
that is very cool weapon design also he way it is held would give presence and motivation on the battlefield you could also program it for z patterns or other handy patterns.
I originally thought that drake and vasquez were lovers, but after watching the movie a couple of times, I realized that they were 'buddies' like a soldiers bonding with another soldier
mistanix go to 1:31 on this video and the scene that alien theory uses is the scene where drake says i love you babe to vasquez
now i have to see this i didnt see the love connection i only saw a buddy system
maybe they were fuck buddies ;)
I always assumed they were buddies. and that she was a rug muncher
Vasquez was a Jew lesbain, Drake wouldn't come close to sniffing that snatch. But I think she wanted to try and fuck Hudson.
The marine's fell victim to Gorman's stupidity and inexperience. Not to their own inability.
The Marines were fuckups, chosen as pasties. I dont know why no one catches onto that? Ripley knows it, as is evident in numerous instances, such as her incredulous reaction to a bunch of alleged hardass veterans, bitching and crying about a 3 week hypersleep. Their NCO constantly tolerates insubordination, etc.
What was Hicks doing with them?
@@springbloom5940 That's an interesting assessment but I don't think they were "fuck ups" per se, simply ill-equipped. They couldn't send crack marines because that would reveal that they know this is a credible threat - or suspect it. So they took what they were given, and the military is famous for sending only what the minimum of what they think you need, and a half-credible bug threat that they might've downplayed probably only mustered a standard skeleton crew. There's nuclear submarines still running on Windows XP for this same reason.
They'd been told they were going on a bug hunt and this was the chosen squad. Marines in general can be quite unruly during downtime, but on-mission they were pretty on point. Nobody really believed Ripley's stories, so they didn't send the best team, especially considering they had to convince the military to send assets...but it was in their best interests to send a capable team for combat data and to ensure a specimen would be retrieved, and that they would be forced to retreat. Burke knew everything, he wouldn't have gone out with incapable marines - just ignorant ones.
When Ripley is briefing them, they don't really believe what she's saying and likely have been told that they believe she's mentally unstable. Given that they sent only this team, they likely really believed it wasn't going to be so bad. It wasn't until their arrival do they tense up, realizing the colony is gone, but it takes a while for them to realize they even have an enemy here.
They were likely wrestling with the idea that the colony deserted, there was an uprising, or possibly a large industrial accident resulting from something more minor. They postulate some ideas like this early on in the investigation.
In the field they definitely followed orders, not as tightly as first-class marines would, but enough to suggest military discipline was in force. Listening to Gormon's orders, most telling, says they knew there'd be punishments if the chain of command wasn't followed. By the time Gormon is issuing orders of a life-and-death scale, they fall in line, despite having objective reasons to be truly insubordinate. I think Hicks keeping his shotgun loaded might've been an offense, but given the situation he had plausible deniability - and likely the shotgun isn't using a slug, so he might've understood the orders and extrapolated it was safe to use. A serious misconduct, sure, but plausibly deniable and one nobody was like to notice if it was unnecessary.
The other Marines carrying extra ammo smart gun however might've been in serious breach, but military order famously break down in combat scenario's, even among Marines. A combat scenario like this, where they were immediately overmatched especially, it's to be expected.
Their overconfidence likely came from the fact that the only bugs they'd likely fought were glorified cockroaches or spooky but otherwise harmless space entities, at worst similar to bears or mountain lions. Scary stuff if lions are hunting and you send soldiers after them, especially in inhospitable otherworldly terrain - but this was an order of magnitude outside that.
Military discipline needs to be enforced as well - Gorman gave orders to Sarge, who they didn't disobey. On the ship, sure, they were definitely unruly and messing around, but bunk discipline is easy to enforce when you're in a space station that takes care of most of your worldly needs, and you have a protocol robot. We also don't know the side effects of hypersleep, it might be complaint worthy.
Don't get me wrong, in real life military discipline is paramount, but when you're dealing with a crew that's largely traveling in civilian area's doing civilian works, these guys aren't holding themselves in the highest military regard, but that all comes down to how Sarge chose to run his team.
They definitely weren't polished examples of military discipline, but bear in mind this is also military discipline in a future where your technology makes being in the military a cushy job. Meanwhile this is also military assets deployed to determine the fate of private assets and civilians - that's highly unusual as-is. We're not looking at the military as you and I know it.
Today's Marines are serious business, no disrespect to them, but they are also wildcats outside, they get off base and lose their minds. I definitely would say that their candor was definitely lax, but given this small team is utterly alone 8 million miles from backup probably meant morale was dangerously low, and small observations could save lives.
If you take the situation into account, if you sent modern Marines into a scenario like that, that under-equipped and ill-managed protecting a private interest, I would suspect a strong uptake in military lingo and discipline the moment things got bad, probably more than the movie presents.
But I wouldn't call this group utterly lacking, other than Gorman and possibly the flight crew who opened the cargo door and the pilot who ignored that fact, but that could be explained away by the pilot not actually hearing what the flight crew said or not realizing he'd opened the cargo door. I'm not sure if those were civilian flight crew - but definitely that'd be some kind of negligent breach of protocol I wouldn't expect to see from any pilot - or intelligent human beings concerned with self-preservation.
I'm not saying this out of the air either, I wasn't in the military but almost all my friends were, and they have much worse stories of tolerated insubordination - some of their people were utterly incapable of actually following orders because they couldn't actually understand any of the vocabulary being used... and these people were guarding nukes or important military assets.
The military puts all kinds to use.
Right man. Right
@@Hydroculator yep hicks could pretty much be on special ops but was stuck on this team that acts like some rotc
"Game over man, game over!"
Which one would I choose? PULSE RIFLE! Here's why. Assuming infinite ammo (this was not specified, so assuming ammo is no concern), both weapons have advantages and drawbacks. The Smart Gun has many advantages, targeting being one of the best, but in the end it's still just a glorified spray-and-pray. You can lay down a lot of fire on targets, especially en masse, BUT, it's also large and heavy, making it cumbersome and difficult to maneuver and aim in tight, enclosed spaces. The Pulse Rifle on the other hand carries the same amount of ammo (99rds), and while it may not unleash as much fire on targets or deal as much damage in a burst, it still delivers adequate damage to get the job done, and its smaller, lighter form allows much more maneuverability and ease of aiming at a target, especially in close quarters when it would be needed most. It can also be used even up close (Smart Gun is so big and long, once an enemy is up on you it's practically useless). On top of that, any damage dealing the pulse rifle lacks when compared to the smart gun, it more than makes up for with the 4-shot grenade launcher, making the pulse rifle much more versatile than the singularly purposed smart gun. Even better of taking Aliens Colonial Marines into account, where the pulse rifle could swap out its underslung grenade launcher with a shotgun or flamethrower as needed depending on the circumstances. All that being said, even if ammo IS a concern, both weapons carry the same number of rounds (99), but the pulse rifle would be better at conserving ammo and making it last longer and being more effective, where the smart gun would wind up wasting bullets in hails of fire. The smart gun would run out first, but in the hands of a good shooter, the pulse rifle would last longer. It would also allow a marine, shooter, etc, to find a good spot to set up and hide for an ambush, where the smart gun would be bulky and make such options limited
"LETS ROOOCK!!!" Drake in the background...."YEEEEEAAAHHHH!!!!
"WHO'S FIRING!? GOD DAMN IT!"
They’re coming outta the walls. They’re coming outta the goddamn walls!
bglover65 /WHOSE firing whose firing stop that firing......lol
Vasquez should be considered as one of the badest of bad ass movie chicks!!!!
Word and shes hawt as hell :D
I have to go with the pulse rifle. Easier to reload and comes with a grenade launcher.
Imagine a rechambered m41 pulse rifle in 545x39 or 57x28 with a 12 gauge under barrel
@@then00brathalos Oh man . . . . Game Over !
Much more mobile as well. That's my problem with the M56. The user would be very vulnerable to return fire.
It’s not a grenade launcher it’s a 12 gauge under barrel
Even in the lore, the grenade launcher was cited as a huge problem, because it caused a lot of friendly fire incidents, while the technology employed by the smart gun.
I'd probably go with the smart gun as it fires the heavier round and I'd need the extra punch to make sure the target goes down first time. Yeah I'd be a little concerned with mobility, but if I could find a place to lock down with a choke point I'd want the most rounds down range as possible.
Least until you realize you're under a vent and you just get grabbed up by one of them.
5:20 i've always assumed that was Cameron demonstrating the Smartgun automatically locking and tracking Newt moving across the frame, rather than Drake simply spotting her and moving the gun himself, if thats the case it was a nice addition.
I definitely think it was auto-aim. I think once the gun bucks his automatic reaction is pull the trigger, especially in a intense situation.
I like the way that the movie props included motorbike components. Foot peg mounts. Clip ons. Switch block. Clutch or brake lever.
I love how they keep saying "caseless ammo" and then show FUCKING BULLETS WITH CASES.
Yeah that was hilarious. The first set shown were blanks even. These are fan-boy sci-fiers here not firearms experts. Good 'ol MG42 just keeps getting around.
I think that's from behind-the-scenes footage, a part of the prop that's not actually shown in the film. It doesn't really fit with the "technical manual" that was written after-the-fact, does it.
I have yet to see any images of this fabled caseless ammo.
Google Heckler and Koch G-11. This is what the movie-ites were after.
Bigtruckseriesreview Motorsports 1st instance is blanks
it is crazy how there is so many stats for a fake weapon
+Josh Fabre yeah just goes to show the insane level of detail James Cameron & Co. went for in designing it.
+Alien Theory what about the predator dogs i think they might be in avp extinction also
Josh Fabre You know I use to watch the military channel and I've seen guns very similar to these not exactly these but damn very close
Shawn Thompson prime example the railgun is as real as a heart attack a lot of those gun are very real in COD so if that gun is not I don't think it far too off from being real
Josh Fabre that's the appeal.
"LETS ROCK" is burned into my mind such a great movie. smart gun for me why cause its cool
I was a M249 S.A.W gunner when i was deployed to iraq so im gonna choose the M56A2 Smart Gun
it would be perfect if they offer a full set of exoskeleton, i mean this smart gun looks heavy as hell
I’m pretty sure the smart gun utilizes a harness system that alleviates a lot of the weight.
Mickey army or marines? Also is it true that the marines use gear left over from the army
Mickey Baby killer
dion jay woollaston Nope, not true. Hasn't been true since at least WWII and even then we used stuff that the Army didn't like camouflage uniforms and amphibious tractors. Now a days all of our stuff is bought new, even if some of it might not be new by the time you get it but it's not hand me downs from the Army. A good example of this is the M16A2 which was designed by and for the Marine Corps and ended up being adopted by all branches of the US military. The last time that we got Army hand me downs was during Desert Storm when got some old Army M1 Abrams, but this was only because we were just starting to transition to M1s at that time and we didn't have any or many yet but we were going to get factory fresh ones.
"Stop your grinning and drop your linen!!"
"I like to keep this handy for close encounters"
"I heared that."
No Fate
Fantastic quote that made me smile....but if that's your choice in firepower given the question of which weapon. You are a human incubator my friend 😂😂😂😂
Hence, he pulled up a shotgun. It is a camo from Terminator 1
Depending on the scenario, as it looks like a squad covering weapon. I would opt to use it if I were in a group or alongside someone else with the smart gun, but if it was just me I would use the pulse rifle.
Smart gun, always. "Let's rock!"
Thanks for the weapon breakdown.
I dont even need to test fire it, ill take two please. (Id love a vulcan version)
Do a video explaining the Xenomorphs inner jaw
Vasquez, "Let's rock!"... brutality so visceral, I almost felt sorry for the Xenomorphs.
I love it when my sci-fi movie and TV gave us technical data about the weapons they are using.
It makes them feels real.
I want you to lay down a suppressing fire with the incinerators and fall back by squads to the APC, over.
+ftwthfats come again? All after "incinerators..."
"DO SOMETHING!"
That's where I thought Gorman was being a real idiot and his inexperience really showed. Instead of telling Apone how to fall back to the APC, just tell him to fall back to the APC and let him work out the details. The man was what, a Staff Sgt. or Gunny, this means that he's been in the Corps a while and knows what he's doing and, being the one actually out there in the thick of things, probably has a much better idea of what's going and probably has the same or a better idea of how to fall back.
Riceball01 officers, am I right!?
"Say again ? You came through broken and stupid..."
I love your videos and I would love if you did a video on the UD-4l Cheyenne drop ship. Talking about weapons other stats, that would make an excellent video.
2300 AD, originally titled Traveller: 2300, is a tabletop science fiction role-playing game created by Game Designers' Workshop (GDW) and first published in 1986. This game had this sort of detail and weapons in it. The tech was based on real 1980 DARPA future technology stuff. The explanations for how this stuff worked was next level.
The smart gun is such a cool weapon in games.
Speaking of which, in some of the shots you showed the game Aliens: Colonial Marines. This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I personally enjoyed the game. Maybe not GOTY 2013, but definitely enjoyable. It was like the Marine campaign in Aliens vs Predator, but longer. Which, meant more time playing with some cool Marine toys, including the Smart gun. Not ashamed to say I like the game.
A lot of the flak came from the wonky alien ai, apparently the coder typed "teather" instead of "tether" in a line of code. If you play it on PC you can actually fix the typo and play it how it was meant
Pulse Rifle, no question.
1. its less bulky, weighs less and has a smaller profile, meaning that it can get into much tighter areas no problem.
2. while less immediate firepower I can carry more ammunition, and I have the pump-action grenade launcher if needed.
"For when you absolutely need every single xenomorph in the room dead" Are you implying there are times where we don't? That sounds like Company-talk
Your videos are great and well explained i loved the smartgun my favorite weapon in the Aliens universe especially in the game Alien Trilogy. Could you cover a topic on the Motion Tracker? Its my favorite device :D
Yeah, it relies on fine-air movement and some particle-based wizardly off memory.
basically a MG 42 on a steadicam
Ah I wasn't the only one who thought it was an MG42
The Nazis had some bad ass infantry weapons
@@dongately2817 mostly the elite especially the SS but standard infantry had normal large production weapons especially late in the war like the MP3008 or the Karabiner 98K basically the Mosin of Germany with around 14 million made.
The fact that the "mg3" is still firing today and that they finally managed to transform a movie prop concept into reality (the gun stabilized harness) makes you wonder how much time does it take before they just put the two together
@@rocket_sensha4337 umm... in this form, never.
There is no place on any battlefield for a squad support weapon that can't be used without exposing the operator completely to enemy return fire.
Smart gun is epic and the AVP game offered alot of fun with it. However the pulse rifle is quite handy as well and seem more practical in really tight CQB, whereas the smart gun seem more beneficial for crowd control in areas where you can tactically bottleneck the opposing force approaching in vast numbers.
I LOVE the smartgun and the firing sound! but in that situation described at the end of the video, i'd have to go with the Pulse Rifle! And the grenade launcher is a plus too - thin out the herd of Xeno's ;) If I had two team mates carrying Pulse rifles, then i'd go for the Smartgun!
When I played Infection in Halo and if I can detach a turret, I always imagine I'm holding a smart gun and holding off the xenomorphs. Bonus points of the infected are Elites.
In the extend cut of Aliens, Hudson refers to the smart gun as a "particle beam phalanx" insinuating that it doesn't fire bullets. The gunners were even seen giving up batteries instead of magazines when ordered to hand over their ammo. The prop guns needed ammo in the movie though, since they fired blanks.
i love how the base of the gun is an MG-42
Christian Garcia i was about to said that,lol,mg42 have a nice design.
Just MG 42 remastered.
I know you want me to choose the M56 Smart gun but I am going with the Pulse Rifle.
It is smaller, easier to handle in close quarters and has grenade launcher.
Do you see how helpless the gunner would be going around a corner. Then all that gear slowing you down. not saying that the Pulse rifle is lite but it is liter and less in the way than the smart gun.
That's why weapons like this are used in support.
I used to own that headset worn by Drake. It was damaged (probably when he torn off all his gear off as he was falling back to the APC), but the main body and eye piece were intact. It had a little TV screen inside the eyepiece. The detail still blows my mind
remembering the scene in the drop ship en route to the air processing stations civilian complex, "Hadleys Hope".. the Lieutenant.. alright lets see what we can see... checking camera feeds.. Drake check your camera there seems to be a malfunction *Drake smacks the camera into his seat restraint* *Static sounds* camera picture clears up.. Thats Better xD
as newt said: "It wont make any difference"
but The smart gun will keep you alive longer for backup arrival in "17 days" lol doubt you make it 17 hours.
Definitely the smart gun. It always put a smile on my face when I picked one up in the video games.
Smart gun those aliens will not get near me
depending very much on how many Xenos there is and ofc how Close they can get, acid for blood baby :D
Pvt Vasquez: Lets rock!!! Doo-doo-doo-doo (repeat)
I would choose the M56, as it’s targeting feature would help to compensate for my poor eyesight. I can see the shapes of things, but not many details. Also, I am comforted by the idea of wielding such a large, reliable weapon.
Please do a video on the space jockeys!
That has to be on the cards eventually!
voice of amos You! What is your user-image of?! I have seen it before somewhere!
Hmmm...well, I made the artwork myself and I can't possibly tell where we might have conversed before.
iona2225 it's south park
I don't think it is.
Do a video on the sharp sticks.
I love screen shots of mg 42 weapon parts and feed belt. I had that weapon in the army.
The smartgun was always my favorite gun in the Alien universe ( in so far as ground forces). Everybody I know seems to like the pulse rifle. But head to head the. Smart gun opperator far out guns a pulse rifle user.
Yea but the Pulse Rifle user and Smart Gun user aren't going head-to-head. They're fighting the Xenos, and the odds favor the Pulse Rifle user more since they can get away if overwhelmed. Smart Gun wielders will get overwhelmed if they stay in one spot or have to move, carrying a big heavy gun around only to either have it slow them down, run out of bullets, or even just overheat the barrel from firing so much.
Jacky brown reference.... What do I win?
A date with Bridget Fonda.