I remember when I was in elementary school in the 90s, the guy who drew and designed the Sulaco for the film came to our school and talked to us about all the stuff he did. I remember I was a little kid and loved the Aliens films and was super excited and amazed when he came and talked to us. It was pretty cool.
As broken and buggy a mess as that game was, I played the schnit out of it for a long time. Plot holes, and flaws aside, I just loved the nostalgia of it. I went full immersion with that game
@@Dimmo87ie You got me thinking of “Star Trek: Elite Force” expansion. It allowed the player to visit just about every deck of the ship, interact with props, enter quarters and rooms, reading personal logs and accessing computer files. Man, I wish they had done that for the Sulaco.
The game sucked but the using the tools and guns and legendary weapons and the gun turrets I went full on immersion when lots of aliens would show up on motion track I go full on Hudson or when a lot show up I start saying Hudson’s last stand in operations
That game is a guilty pleasure for me. The Sulaco stuff is great and they nailed the sound design for the pulse rifle. The shift in pitches with each trigger pull is sooooo satisfying.
What I always found strange was that the Sulaco never actually had a crew of her own, navy personnel who ran and maintained the ship. The Colonial Marines were the only people onboard. I always found that puzzling.
there was others abord that why the egg we see got in the sleeping airear cos they used the other droo ship to collect an egg from the derilect ship and got back up before shit hit tye fan for rippely and the marine's and put the egg there after they were asleep cos the queen cant lay eggs with out her egg sack and she did not have time to put an egg were it was located.
It's kind of like that just for plot purposes, it makes zero sense to basically leave a ship like that which probably isn't cheap, to autopilot and one platoon of marines.
@@torquetheprisoner were they hiding on the bridge while there was an alien aboard? Lol. Nah, it's clear it can handle a crew, but there isn't one present in the movie.
There are a few sci-fi series that go into this level of detail and do so well. Many times, though, you run into the issue present here in this video, a lot of technical jargon. Some of which is of nebulous meaning.
@Kwame Oluwasomi RE: "I am, quite honestly, intimidated by the level of detail that went into this ship. It really is as if such things actually exist..." As a retired engineer, it's easy to design something that doesn't have to actually work.
I see Roy Scammell (the stuntman from the classic 1979 film) has passed today. His work was fantastic. He was in the suit when the Alien killed Brett, Dallas, and at the end (he was the alien who was ejected from the Narcissus and entered the engine) he'd worked on so many iconic productions. I've added him to my list The roll call of Alien series icons we've lost: CAST: John Hurt Harry Dean Stanton Yaphet Kotto Ian Holm Bolaji Bodejo Helen Horton Bill Paxton Paul Maxwell Tip Tipping Al Matthews Jay Benedict Trevor Steedman Brian Glover Pete Postlethwaite J. E Freeman Steven Gilborn CREW: H. R. Giger Dan O'Bannon James Horner Jerry Goldsmith Stan Winston Syd Mead Ron Cobb Derek Vanlint Michael Seymour Michael Lamont Peter Lamont David Giler Gordon Carroll Roy Scammell Eddie Powell Bill Weston Terry Rawlings Mary Goldberg Dennis Ayling Adrian Biddle Charles Lippincott And of course, the cats who played Jones 🐱 Thanks for the nightmares.... You will never be forgotten (updated 19th May 2021, EVERYONE who made this series so iconic, must be remembered)
@@terrancejroman2954 I've done another one of these memorial lists on another comment which is more complete, but for you I've added Yaphet to this one, Alien just wouldn't be Alien without him
So much "Alien" tech is underrated, too. Personally, I would be fucking terrified if I were a space pirate or illegal trafficker and a platoon of Colonial Marines showed up at my doorstep. Especially in a warship like that!
i know the game alien colonial mareins game is not the best game in the world but give it a try only just for the first bit before you go back on to the planet.
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Just watched this film for the millionth time.It's a masterpiece. In such a short span of time, you care/hate for the characters and have them figured out which is insane when you think about it.
The worst thing about ships of the Sulaco's class was the fire alarm system. Apparantly the ships response to a fire while the crew were in hypersleep was to shunt all of the sleep capsules into escape pods and launch those at the nearest planet. This led the total loss of several ships when one of the crew forgot to extinguish a cigareete or unplug the toaster before going into hypersleep. The second worst thing about the ship class were the escape pods, which apparantly had no engines or braking thrusters and made planet fall like a rock. This often killed three quarters of the occupants during "landing".
Alien RPG by Free League Publishing has a rumors sidebar involving the sulaco showing up in a system, the local colony reporting it, sending a ship... then no further transmissions from the colony. the colony was found empty by the next supply ship, no bodies, no damage to the facility, no sign of the sulaco.
@@jimbowlan5804 oH YEAH! I forgot about that movie! ,but even though there is a book ,(not a graphic novel),they are always looking for new ideas ,and it's not without merit that it could be done? With the Alien angle?
I always thought when you first see it onscreen it obviously looks like a rifle ,like the pulse guns the space marines carry.It seems very appropriate as it approaches the LV planet and helps set the tone for the movie with a promise of alot of shooting and violence to come.Certainly JAMES CAMERON chose the design for foreshadow effect and it's a good logical shape for a ship made for battle
Would be interesting to also see a full feature on the USM Auriga from Alien Resurrection 1997 also, as their chambers for the XenoMorphs were quite an interesting design.
It's a giant Pulse Rifle flying through space! That was my immediate thought when I saw it back in 1986! At first, I thought - "Yep, it's a giant gun-shaped ship!". Then, after watching the movie, I realized it's shaped very close to a pulse rifle! All it needs is the digital ammo counter on the side.😎👍
After I saw it a few times, I thought it looked like a gun. Maybe I realized it when I saw the Director cut on Blu-ray that I bought years ago. It has extra footage. Really cool seen with stand alone sentry guns, it's like 20 minutes long. They never should have left it out of the original movie.
@@GENGHISKHAN-hk3qs Yep! The 'extended' edition of Aliens should have just kept the original stuff in. It didn't make the movie much longer and definitely made it even more interesting!
It's always amazing to see how a bunch of nerds bakes up some interesting mix of merging RL physics with fictitious ones to some more or less believable mixture for all kind of SF franchises. Great video again. Thanks :)
@@thedudeabides3138 actually surprised it hasn't been done. Budget maybe. Rights holders maybe. I dont know. I've been wanting a quality USCM show for a long time! Doesn't need to be 10 season. Juts like 10 really good shows.. bring back Lance H for a nostalgia and maybe a Ripley flashback or two.. One day.
@@italbadboy4382 i was so hyped when that game came out. Then while i was playing it i was like "this is garbage!" Then i found out that i wasnt the only one who thought that!
@@Gollammeister alotta movies they make nowadays, NOBODY asks for. They could totally make a movie with this ship in the concept. I mean have u heard the details of the ne PREDATOR movie? Another garbage movie coming
i found that leaving the ship unmanned for a planet surface excursion to be a questionable procedure. that proved be a near fatal mistake the survivors of the LV-426 processing colony investigation attack. automated ship control does have some flaws.
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@@GENGHISKHAN-hk3qs Lebbon needs to continue what he started with those books. I want to know about the place they mentioned at the very end of the series..
I dunno if i prefer it that way or not, i've become fearful of sci-fi writers and their knack for explaining away cool things in the least creative and stimulating way possible.
@@theamused8705 ya, I love Alien and Predator books, they are great. Imagine if they made Rage War into a movie? It would be the second best Sci-fi ever, after Termination 2 of course. I saw that in the theater when I was 13. It was really cool.
Everyone loves the alien, but how cool would it be to see a capital ship space simulator set in the Aliens time frame? There's so much detail to the ships that I think this could be an awesome title. Manage sensory systems, firing solution, support craft (like the drop ships), reactive armor, cooling, life support, reactor power... and more in order to out maneuver your enemy. Heck, even marine detachments could be a factor! There's even an alternate script to Alien 3 which involves the Chinese space forces as adversaries to the US forces... both, of course, vying for the Alien. So we have at least three factions: US Colonial Marines, China, and Weyland Yutani. Of course, I'm sure there would be ample opportunity to put the alien itself center stage in such a game. Suppose, for instance, there's an M-Class star freighter drifting in deep space with top secret cargo that everyone seems so desperate to capture ;)
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Loved the tech guide when it came out. I. Read up on all the vehicles, especially the Sulaco. Would have been great to see it in action, even scanning the site from orbit when they arrived.
The Alien universe is so cool. Humanity began the expand rapidly though space during the mid-2100's. We encountered a bleak, seemingly empty Milky Way until we encountered the remnants of Engineer colonies and their vessels. Xenomorphs existed in human colonists' nightmares and through swiftly hushed rumors through the ranks of Weyland-Yutani. Human nature didn't change, but what we began to encounter in the vast, cold vacuum would forever change our perception of what terror was.
And most horrible thing it that a really ideal bio-weapon by unknow origins. Look, one drone or another type has all system to establish a colony. Then the entire ship or station IS doomed. Too many things to keep in mind, too many possibilities to cut off. And you have all technical space, all holes and airducts to scan, secure, clean and maintain. Just to make sure it will not contain source of new treat in next 4 hours. Can you remove unknown amount of small ******** or some finalized xenomorphs from an entire dreadnought or even the whole station and be sure IT IS REALLY CLEAN?
The original sulaco was to look like a giant ball or sphere, james cameron didnt like it so they designed it like a giant gun and it does look like a giant pulse rifle like ship in the orbit scenes. Top class film for 1986.
When I started writing Aliens fan fiction I set a lot of the first story aboard the Sulaco after the USCM detected it adrift and sent a team to find out why it had failed to return. Of course these marines found out that they weren't alone aboard the ship. The information in the Colonial Marines Technical Manual was invaluable when I was writing this.
The whole Alien saga really needed another movie tying Prometheus and Covenant all together ! Ridley please surprise us all and answer all “the questions!” ….I think the devout fans of this fabulously constructed universe deserve this ……….. and more ! Cheers
Great video... i forgot just how much technobabble they had in the tech manuals, and whatnot, lol. Small Nitpick: Why not mention the fact that Conestoga-class ships did actually have a traditional bridge?
I liked the design enough to incorporate it in the fleet list in my little sci-fi bit. It fills a gap in the fleet list. When you need to deploy ground units but don't need a full scale troop deployment ship or heavy lander vessel. So far the Sulaco class ships come in 3 variants. The standard Mark 1 that is just a bit larger with different equipment, weapons, power and engine systems. Along with a greater capacity of drop ships ( 6) modified versions of what the Sulaco had. The Mark 2 is larger and packs more weaponry and drop ships that can deploy larger APC's. The Mark 3 is larger than the other 2 and has fewer weapons. It deploys directly to a planet's surface to land Type 3 Geist ground fortresses. Or walkers and different types of destroid class mecha.
I recommend you to make a video of the Alien Berserker (Frenzy) comic book, then Alien vs Predator War and Alien vs Predator Three World War to continue with Machiko Nogushi's story.
All this seems like a lot to handle for a small group of Marines. Now I'm curious why the Sulaco didn't have a Navy compliment for ship operations. Still, a great video AT, thanks.
Dietrich was a Hospital Corpsman, but I completely understand and appreciate your valid point noted. I noticed some of the fan sites assume she is a Corporal, but those who served know Hospital Corpsmen are actually Navy assigned to Marine Corps units.
It could be because space travel is extremely demanding as far as fuel, and consumables are concerned. Everything-personnel, food, habitable volume is calculated down to the ounce.
@@tgarnett25 true, but the tech manuals mention that the complement of the Salaco is 90, but they only deployed half of a 26 man platoon plus Ripley and Burke. There is a lot more room left on board.
Imagine what another alien film would be like with James Cameron at the helm instead of Ridley-Scott who in my opinion has lost the plot completely I think if James Cameron had another stab at it with today’s technology in media it would be one of the best sci-fi films released to date I might be wrong down in my opinion
Seems unbelievable really. A real world naval ship would have Navy personnel running the ship...Marines are part of the Navy but generally don't run ships.
@@singletona082 A warship would require a naval officer to be in charge, not a Marine. This is, of course based on modern understandings of Naval practice and warfare. It's assumed Naval tradition will carry on into Space based operations, perhaps with some overlap of Airforce traditions. Warships don't view their personnel as cargo in any navy - even a transport ship (the Sulaco is an armed warship capable of ship to ship and ship to planet attacks without deploying troops that has transport capacity). Perhaps things are different in the Aliens timeline and that's why they send what look to be about half a platoon to a colony of 158 colonist to investigate a potentially dangerous situation with an extremely hostile organism, with zero back up. The Sulaco should have had at least a full platoon of 43 Marines (going by current US Marine Platoon numbers as a guide), with at least one Naval officer running the ship itself when they come out of hypersleep. However the influence of Weyland Yutani could explain why the Sulaco was sent undermanned and pretty much blind. The theme of corporate corruption and conspiracy are strong in the films, and it's obvious they have sway over the United Americas at least in the Aliens universe.
something that always baffled about the movie was that there were still Marine riflemen but the Sulaco had no permanent crew. Made absolutely no sense.
Remember when they incorporated EEVs that had literally no thrusters or impact dampening technology? No parachutes? Just a metal coffin slamming down into Furini-161, killing Hicks and Newt? Yeah, Pepperidge Farms remembers.
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I always thought that there should of been more crew/marines onboard. I guess the company classified the mission and had the ship on auto-pilot with a flight crew in hyper sleep as backup only.
The unexplored universe of the Colonial Marine Tech and Forces is a crime against humanity. The Dropship alone has inspired all kinds of sci fi from Starcraft to Terminator.
I always loved that ship design, it's like a large pulse gun traveling through space The Kol class battleship in the game Sins of a Solar empire looks a bit like it too.
I love the design of this ship. I remember getting the USMC Technical Manual as a kid and geeking out over it for hours. One thing that still bothers me about Hollywood spaceships (well, the ones that at least try to be realistic, Star Trek doesn't count) is how little mass is devoted to propellant (The Expanse is guilty of this as well). Even at the energies described a ship like the Sulaco would need a significant fuel fraction to have a useful amount of dV.
I remember when I was in elementary school in the 90s, the guy who drew and designed the Sulaco for the film came to our school and talked to us about all the stuff he did. I remember I was a little kid and loved the Aliens films and was super excited and amazed when he came and talked to us. It was pretty cool.
That would have been cool as I too am a big fan of the francise since the late 80s
Syd Mead or Ron Cobb?
Wow!! What a great memory!! That is so cool you got to meet him.
Wow, how cool was that
❤cool memory, thanks for sharing ❤
One of the very few good things about Aliens: Colonial Marines is that they showed a lot more of the Sulaco's interior.
As broken and buggy a mess as that game was, I played the schnit out of it for a long time. Plot holes, and flaws aside, I just loved the nostalgia of it. I went full immersion with that game
@@Dimmo87ie You got me thinking of “Star Trek: Elite Force” expansion. It allowed the player to visit just about every deck of the ship, interact with props, enter quarters and rooms, reading personal logs and accessing computer files. Man, I wish they had done that for the Sulaco.
The game sucked but the using the tools and guns and legendary weapons and the gun turrets I went full on immersion when lots of aliens would show up on motion track I go full on Hudson or when a lot show up I start saying Hudson’s last stand in operations
@@Dimmo87ie Same! I agree with you 100% because I did the same!
That game is a guilty pleasure for me. The Sulaco stuff is great and they nailed the sound design for the pulse rifle. The shift in pitches with each trigger pull is sooooo satisfying.
We will never have another era in sci-fi like we had in the 80's. Good times🍻
Especially with James cameron in charge!
Totally agree
It was the best- late 70s to early 90s before bloody CGI
@@Melvorgazh I agree
Alien, Blade Runner, The Thing, Outland, The Terminator, Aliens, Predator, The Fly, Scanners... it truly was the golden age.
What I always found strange was that the Sulaco never actually had a crew of her own, navy personnel who ran and maintained the ship. The Colonial Marines were the only people onboard. I always found that puzzling.
there was others abord that why the egg we see got in the sleeping airear cos they used the other droo ship to collect an egg from the derilect ship and got back up before shit hit tye fan for rippely and the marine's and put the egg there after they were asleep cos the queen cant lay eggs with out her egg sack and she did not have time to put an egg were it was located.
It's kind of like that just for plot purposes, it makes zero sense to basically leave a ship like that which probably isn't cheap, to autopilot and one platoon of marines.
@@torquetheprisoner were they hiding on the bridge while there was an alien aboard? Lol.
Nah, it's clear it can handle a crew, but there isn't one present in the movie.
Wasn't everything automated?
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc with wayland being the way they are i would not trust them
I am, quite honestly, intimidated by the level of detail that went into this ship. It really is as if such things actually exist...
There are a few sci-fi series that go into this level of detail and do so well. Many times, though, you run into the issue present here in this video, a lot of technical jargon. Some of which is of nebulous meaning.
Same thought here…jeepers if they can think it maybe just maybe the brainiacs will reach a technology capable of this.
@@mechanomics2649
RE: ". . . a lot of technical jargon. Some of which is of nebulous meaning."
Well, Hollywood has always been good at techno-babble.
@Kwame Oluwasomi
RE: "I am, quite honestly, intimidated by the level of detail that went into this ship. It really is as if such things actually exist..."
As a retired engineer, it's easy to design something that doesn't have to actually work.
@@spaceman081447 Just goes to show where the bar's set... and that I'm crawling below it 🤣
I see Roy Scammell (the stuntman from the classic 1979 film) has passed today. His work was fantastic. He was in the suit when the Alien killed Brett, Dallas, and at the end (he was the alien who was ejected from the Narcissus and entered the engine) he'd worked on so many iconic productions. I've added him to my list
The roll call of Alien series icons we've lost:
CAST:
John Hurt
Harry Dean Stanton
Yaphet Kotto
Ian Holm
Bolaji Bodejo
Helen Horton
Bill Paxton
Paul Maxwell
Tip Tipping
Al Matthews
Jay Benedict
Trevor Steedman
Brian Glover
Pete Postlethwaite
J. E Freeman
Steven Gilborn
CREW:
H. R. Giger
Dan O'Bannon
James Horner
Jerry Goldsmith
Stan Winston
Syd Mead
Ron Cobb
Derek Vanlint
Michael Seymour
Michael Lamont
Peter Lamont
David Giler
Gordon Carroll
Roy Scammell
Eddie Powell
Bill Weston
Terry Rawlings
Mary Goldberg
Dennis Ayling
Adrian Biddle
Charles Lippincott
And of course, the cats who played Jones 🐱
Thanks for the nightmares....
You will never be forgotten
(updated 19th May 2021, EVERYONE who made this series so iconic, must be remembered)
What about Yaphet Koto??
@@terrancejroman2954 I've done another one of these memorial lists on another comment which is more complete, but for you I've added Yaphet to this one, Alien just wouldn't be Alien without him
It's criminal that we never got to see the Sulaco, or one of her class, engaged in an actual space battle!
So much "Alien" tech is underrated, too. Personally, I would be fucking terrified if I were a space pirate or illegal trafficker and a platoon of Colonial Marines showed up at my doorstep. Especially in a warship like that!
i know the game alien colonial mareins game is not the best game in the world but give it a try only just for the first bit before you go back on to the planet.
You can see it battle a twin ship in the game "Colonial Marines", and you're aboard one of them!
The trailer made it worse, showing very brief clips of *two* ships crashing onto a planet!
We did in Halo...they didn’t do too well😐
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The amount of realism in regards to engineering, function, fuel, etc. is quite astonishing.
I miss the universe James Cameron created for us in Aliens !
You don’t have to miss it ❤️ it’s still here
The new (old) ships are crap looking.
@@spacetexan8695 I know 😊. I must have seen this movie over 100 times now.
Me too
I was way better than the third Alien movie.
Just watched this film for the millionth time.It's a masterpiece. In such a short span of time, you care/hate for the characters and have them figured out which is insane when you think about it.
Nearly perfect film. So much that we see in every sci-if film came from Aliens.
Yep, never gets old and you feel like you're there with them.
The worst thing about ships of the Sulaco's class was the fire alarm system. Apparantly the ships response to a fire while the crew were in hypersleep was to shunt all of the sleep capsules into escape pods and launch those at the nearest planet. This led the total loss of several ships when one of the crew forgot to extinguish a cigareete or unplug the toaster before going into hypersleep.
The second worst thing about the ship class were the escape pods, which apparantly had no engines or braking thrusters and made planet fall like a rock. This often killed three quarters of the occupants during "landing".
I was 17 when this film was released in NZ. I'm in London now, 51, on furlough, drunk at 15:25 on a Thursday, and this was awesome.
I would have loved to seen this in theaters but I was born a year after it got released but I saw 3 and 4 in theaters
The Sulaco could become the tragic, haunted ship of the next fifty years. Keep her around. Keep her damned. Keep her on the cusp of vulnerability.
Alien RPG by Free League Publishing has a rumors sidebar involving the sulaco showing up in a system, the local colony reporting it, sending a ship... then no further transmissions from the colony.
the colony was found empty by the next supply ship, no bodies, no damage to the facility, no sign of the sulaco.
@@tallonhunter3663 that’s kinda creepy, it seems like space is one giant Bermuda Triangle
A "ghost" ship" forever out there, being found again and again,to tragic results?, Sounds like the making's of a great comic series!
Sounds like event horizon lol
@@jimbowlan5804 oH YEAH! I forgot about that movie! ,but even though there is a book ,(not a graphic novel),they are always looking for new ideas ,and it's not without merit that it could be done? With the Alien angle?
Im so obsessed with this universe
I always thought when you first see it onscreen it obviously looks like a rifle ,like the pulse guns the space marines carry.It seems very appropriate as it approaches the LV planet and helps set the tone for the movie with a promise of alot of shooting and violence to come.Certainly JAMES CAMERON chose the design for foreshadow effect and it's a good logical shape for a ship made for battle
Yep. This is precisely what I’ve always felt about the design.
Whole film was a masterpiece
Indeed, actually looks like the German WWII MG 42 with removed barrel. Somehow.
Such a well thought out and made ship, and so little we experienced of it.
Dude you blew this one out of the park. One of the best videos you’ve made man. Excellent.
Would be interesting to also see a full feature on the USM Auriga from Alien Resurrection 1997 also, as their chambers for the XenoMorphs were quite an interesting design.
Awesome video. I have always like this ship and kinda wish they had shown more of it.
It's a giant Pulse Rifle flying through space! That was my immediate thought when I saw it back in 1986! At first, I thought - "Yep, it's a giant gun-shaped ship!". Then, after watching the movie, I realized it's shaped very close to a pulse rifle! All it needs is the digital ammo counter on the side.😎👍
After I saw it a few times, I thought it looked like a gun. Maybe I realized it when I saw the Director cut on Blu-ray that I bought years ago. It has extra footage. Really cool seen with stand alone sentry guns, it's like 20 minutes long. They never should have left it out of the original movie.
@@GENGHISKHAN-hk3qs Yep! The 'extended' edition of Aliens should have just kept the original stuff in. It didn't make the movie much longer and definitely made it even more interesting!
@@Axess-sv8nq it sure did! I loved the sentry gun seen, it was sweet!
Looks more like a highly detailed version of Sark's carrier in the original Tron movie.
Always the best high quality Alien content. Thank you.
This is the first description of ftl travel I've heard in the Alien universe, I've always been curious about it.
I like the detail about the ship in a tachyon state being able to travel *no slower than the speed of light.* That's a nice touch.
It reminded me of Revelation Space's Inertial Controllers
Videos like THIS are why I love this channel!
The Expanse is the TV show that comes the closest with the "Aliens" universe, awesome ships and space battles. Great detailed video about the Sulaco.
It's always amazing to see how a bunch of nerds bakes up some interesting mix of merging RL physics with fictitious ones to some more or less believable mixture for all kind of SF franchises.
Great video again. Thanks :)
the technical imagination is astounding. the world these first films created defines science fiction. this channel is great!
Need to bring a marines miniseries to cable TV! Imagine a colonial marines with quality writing of Band of Brothers or The Pacific!
It's in the works. FX, I think?
Okay...that concept has given me wood.
@@suicidesamuraiz for real? Haven't heard nothing ...
@@thedudeabides3138 actually surprised it hasn't been done. Budget maybe. Rights holders maybe. I dont know. I've been wanting a quality USCM show for a long time! Doesn't need to be 10 season. Juts like 10 really good shows.. bring back Lance H for a nostalgia and maybe a Ripley flashback or two..
One day.
Would be cool. Show how the USMC morphed into the USCM in the cyberpunk future.
I appreciate when my favorite sci-fi movie of all times,no exaggeration, took great care to produce the ship. It's a beautiful and cool vessel.
They need to make a movie with this ship in action!!!
Most action it seen was in the Colonial Marines game smh
Absolutely agree
@@italbadboy4382 i was so hyped when that game came out. Then while i was playing it i was like "this is garbage!" Then i found out that i wasnt the only one who thought that!
@@Gollammeister alotta movies they make nowadays, NOBODY asks for. They could totally make a movie with this ship in the concept. I mean have u heard the details of the ne PREDATOR movie? Another garbage movie coming
This really makes me want to go play AVP 2010 again as the marines
i found that leaving the ship unmanned for a planet surface excursion to be a questionable
procedure. that proved be a near fatal mistake the survivors of the LV-426 processing colony investigation attack. automated ship control does have some flaws.
Great way to end a Monday workday when a new AT video drops. Kudos and keep up the great content
For the longest time I considered myself a fonder then most Alien fan. Own all the toys,movies,comics most of the side storys . Then there was this channel. The best channel for all things Alien. Thank you for all your hard work. I can only imagine the hours spent. You truly are a lucky star in my book.
Wish we had information like this for the Predators ships. 34 years and I swear we still know basically nothing about their transportation
Read the Rage War books. That has a TON of Predator info. You can get all three on Amazon for about $20 if you have prime. Enjoy.
Rage war books may explain why so little is known.
@@GENGHISKHAN-hk3qs Lebbon needs to continue what he started with those books. I want to know about the place they mentioned at the very end of the series..
I dunno if i prefer it that way or not, i've become fearful of sci-fi writers and their knack for explaining away cool things in the least creative and stimulating way possible.
@@theamused8705 ya, I love Alien and Predator books, they are great. Imagine if they made Rage War into a movie? It would be the second best Sci-fi ever, after Termination 2 of course. I saw that in the theater when I was 13. It was really cool.
Everyone loves the alien, but how cool would it be to see a capital ship space simulator set in the Aliens time frame? There's so much detail to the ships that I think this could be an awesome title. Manage sensory systems, firing solution, support craft (like the drop ships), reactive armor, cooling, life support, reactor power... and more in order to out maneuver your enemy. Heck, even marine detachments could be a factor! There's even an alternate script to Alien 3 which involves the Chinese space forces as adversaries to the US forces... both, of course, vying for the Alien. So we have at least three factions: US Colonial Marines, China, and Weyland Yutani. Of course, I'm sure there would be ample opportunity to put the alien itself center stage in such a game. Suppose, for instance, there's an M-Class star freighter drifting in deep space with top secret cargo that everyone seems so desperate to capture ;)
Always loved this ship and really love the Prometheus' design too!
Love this ship. Nice to know it can hold more than a single squad of marines.
It is amazing how much detail was thought of for something that's fictional
I’m so happy I found this channel
Your videos are fantastic. I know you have been going through a hard time. If you ever get to a point where you can come back to us we will be here for you. Wishing you blessings and love.
ROFL...just last week I was telling a friend I could listen to this dude read a tech manual...and here we get it.
Ron Cobb is the most underrated science fiction designer, is a shame most people don't even know his name
What a good time to come looking for a new alien theory video lol.
Ahh a goodnight story for me.
Loved the tech guide when it came out. I. Read up on all the vehicles, especially the Sulaco. Would have been great to see it in action, even scanning the site from orbit when they arrived.
Love The Sulaco& Syd Mead's design.The Sulaco re-appeared in Alien3,ReadyPlayerOne,& BladeRunner 2049:)
The Alien universe is so cool. Humanity began the expand rapidly though space during the mid-2100's. We encountered a bleak, seemingly empty Milky Way until we encountered the remnants of Engineer colonies and their vessels. Xenomorphs existed in human colonists' nightmares and through swiftly hushed rumors through the ranks of Weyland-Yutani. Human nature didn't change, but what we began to encounter in the vast, cold vacuum would forever change our perception of what terror was.
And most horrible thing it that a really ideal bio-weapon by unknow origins. Look, one drone or another type has all system to establish a colony. Then the entire ship or station IS doomed. Too many things to keep in mind, too many possibilities to cut off. And you have all technical space, all holes and airducts to scan, secure, clean and maintain. Just to make sure it will not contain source of new treat in next 4 hours. Can you remove unknown amount of small ******** or some finalized xenomorphs from an entire dreadnought or even the whole station and be sure IT IS REALLY CLEAN?
Imagine living in an era like this? It must be wonderful but frightening.
The original sulaco was to look like a giant ball or sphere, james cameron didnt like it so they designed it like a giant gun and it does look like a giant pulse rifle like ship in the orbit scenes. Top class film for 1986.
Wow!!!!! So detailed....as if it really exists. The thought that went in to the functions of Sulaco is amazing!!!
I hope this ship or a similar one is showcased in the new Aliens game. Imagine fighting in the cryo bay... I would love that.
Or imagine a intellectual property where we can explore new places or ideas instead of constantly retreading old content... I would love that.
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Always loved this design. Functional yet cool looking. I once had a model of it and the drop ship. I wish I still did.
one of my favorite ships featured on one of my favorite channels
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Wow that is amazing I can't get over how much detail a game or a movie will have in its items the battleships and the transport ships and Mining ships
When I started writing Aliens fan fiction I set a lot of the first story aboard the Sulaco after the USCM detected it adrift and sent a team to find out why it had failed to return. Of course these marines found out that they weren't alone aboard the ship. The information in the Colonial Marines Technical Manual was invaluable when I was writing this.
Fascinating drive section, the powdered diamond reaction mass bit is quite creative!
34 years since a good alien move
Love the channel, your narration and dedication to this universe. Thank you 😎
Not exactly a battlestar or battle barge but still awesome.
It is small enough tactical warship.
The whole Alien saga really needed another movie tying Prometheus and Covenant all together ! Ridley please surprise us all and answer all “the questions!” ….I think the devout fans of this fabulously constructed universe deserve this ……….. and more ! Cheers
Great video... i forgot just how much technobabble they had in the tech manuals, and whatnot, lol. Small Nitpick: Why not mention the fact that Conestoga-class ships did actually have a traditional bridge?
I liked the design enough to incorporate it in the fleet list in my little sci-fi bit.
It fills a gap in the fleet list. When you need to deploy ground units but don't need a full scale troop deployment ship or heavy lander vessel.
So far the Sulaco class ships come in 3 variants.
The standard Mark 1 that is just a bit larger with different equipment, weapons, power and engine systems. Along with a greater capacity of drop ships ( 6) modified versions of what the Sulaco had.
The Mark 2 is larger and packs more weaponry and drop ships that can deploy larger APC's.
The Mark 3 is larger than the other 2 and has fewer weapons. It deploys directly to a planet's surface to land Type 3 Geist ground fortresses. Or walkers and different types of destroid class mecha.
USG ISHUMURA would be a cool ship to cover.
Im still burmin the flower to this vod...Stay Frosty
This was incredibly detailed. Thank you.
I recommend you to make a video of the Alien Berserker (Frenzy) comic book, then Alien vs Predator War and Alien vs Predator Three World War to continue with Machiko Nogushi's story.
First time I've ever heard anyone explain the Alien universe's FTL. Thanks for that.
All this seems like a lot to handle for a small group of Marines. Now I'm curious why the Sulaco didn't have a Navy compliment for ship operations.
Still, a great video AT, thanks.
Dietrich was a Hospital Corpsman, but I completely understand and appreciate your valid point noted. I noticed some of the fan sites assume she is a Corporal, but those who served know Hospital Corpsmen are actually Navy assigned to Marine Corps units.
It could be because space travel is extremely demanding as far as fuel, and consumables are concerned. Everything-personnel, food, habitable volume is calculated down to the ounce.
@@tgarnett25 true, but the tech manuals mention that the complement of the Salaco is 90, but they only deployed half of a 26 man platoon plus Ripley and Burke. There is a lot more room left on board.
Absolutely the best sci-fi ever created and such amazing details including in this content.
Yeah but the cornbread sux
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Not so advanced after all.
That's jusbecause you hillbillies actually have a gastronomic criteria for cornbread.😂😅
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Imagine what another alien film would be like with James Cameron at the helm instead of Ridley-Scott who in my opinion has lost the plot completely I think if James Cameron had another stab at it with today’s technology in media it would be one of the best sci-fi films released to date I might be wrong down in my opinion
I believe you are correct sir. Cameron could really fire things up again.
Too bad Ridley utterly killed this franchise. Between him and the AvP movies the damage has been done, nobody has interest in these movies anymore
this is some real nerdy type shit and love it! keep it up :)
Thanks alot for this Ultimate Breakdown of the USS Sulaco! Very Inspiring!
You misspoke on the length it is 731.52 meters in length!
God damn beautiful as always!
The fact that the Sulacco was to be decommissioned anyway just adds to how much the W-Y Corp wanted the Hadleys Hope Rescue to fail.
Well played.
I can’t believe they let a bunch of grunts have complete run of a ship like this.
Is that you, Burke? Gorman?
Seems unbelievable really. A real world naval ship would have Navy personnel running the ship...Marines are part of the Navy but generally don't run ships.
Run of? To be blunt? The humans are essentially cargo.
@@singletona082 A warship would require a naval officer to be in charge, not a Marine. This is, of course based on modern understandings of Naval practice and warfare. It's assumed Naval tradition will carry on into Space based operations, perhaps with some overlap of Airforce traditions.
Warships don't view their personnel as cargo in any navy - even a transport ship (the Sulaco is an armed warship capable of ship to ship and ship to planet attacks without deploying troops that has transport capacity). Perhaps things are different in the Aliens timeline and that's why they send what look to be about half a platoon to a colony of 158 colonist to investigate a potentially dangerous situation with an extremely hostile organism, with zero back up.
The Sulaco should have had at least a full platoon of 43 Marines (going by current US Marine Platoon numbers as a guide), with at least one Naval officer running the ship itself when they come out of hypersleep.
However the influence of Weyland Yutani could explain why the Sulaco was sent undermanned and pretty much blind. The theme of corporate corruption and conspiracy are strong in the films, and it's obvious they have sway over the United Americas at least in the Aliens universe.
@Daniel Robinson possible dumb question. Are we sure the ship's entire staff was marines or of it was a naval ship seconded to the marines?
Excellent stuff... Thanks for the video
as the actors said in a interview, "Fuck Alien 3!" Sulaco lives on.
Okay, Butthurt Aliens Fanboy.
@@NebLleb Are you ok? Sounds like you need a hug.
something that always baffled about the movie was that there were still Marine riflemen but the Sulaco had no permanent crew. Made absolutely no sense.
Tritium not "trillium."
"8 Terabyte backup system" hahahahahahaha ! - Dr Evil would love that statistic ! 😀
Holy shit man so much detail!
Remember when they incorporated EEVs that had literally no thrusters or impact dampening technology? No parachutes? Just a metal coffin slamming down into Furini-161, killing Hicks and Newt? Yeah, Pepperidge Farms remembers.
First! Game over man! Game over!
Aliens is one of the best movies from the 80s.. the creativity the art.. your imagination, my friend has no boundaries
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We see you bruv. Heillung is the shit btw!
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I always thought that there should of been more crew/marines onboard. I guess the company classified the mission and had the ship on auto-pilot with a flight crew in hyper sleep as backup only.
Much appreciative of this video!
Thanks for compiling all of the data. :)
Watched the movie again last night. Classic movie
@ 3:40 the term "40MW" is read out as "40 _square meters"_ when it's should be "40 Megawatts."
I love this chanel! I think you were born to have an alien UA-cam lol. Just hope Disney doesn't ruin it...
I would love to see the Sulaco again. Hopefully the lore reinstates the ship by recommisioning the vessel into an active duty roll once again.
The unexplored universe of the Colonial Marine Tech and Forces is a crime against humanity. The Dropship alone has inspired all kinds of sci fi from Starcraft to Terminator.
Technically the drop ship was inspired by the Terminator flashbacks. Cameron did both films, starting with T1 in 1984
I always loved that ship design, it's like a large pulse gun traveling through space
The Kol class battleship in the game Sins of a Solar empire looks a bit like it too.
Interesting! I observed the details on my Eaglemoss model, while watching this video. Very accurate!
I love the design of this ship. I remember getting the USMC Technical Manual as a kid and geeking out over it for hours.
One thing that still bothers me about Hollywood spaceships (well, the ones that at least try to be realistic, Star Trek doesn't count) is how little mass is devoted to propellant (The Expanse is guilty of this as well). Even at the energies described a ship like the Sulaco would need a significant fuel fraction to have a useful amount of dV.
Ohhh looking forward to in search of tomorrow