wasnt expecting to be hit with random trans ally-ness, thanks for that - Sincerly, a random trans woman who now feels a little safer on the internet P.S. : this was a really well made video and a lot of the points made a lot of sense. even tho i still love playing cyberpunk and cant wait to see what the new dlc is like, i still see a lot of the issues that are mentioned in this video and they do kinda take me out of the love i have for the game when i notice them.
A friend of mine began transitioning about a year ago and it's been really disheartening to see how they've been treated by the wider world. I think the least I can do is make it apparent how I feel about the subject cause I'd prefer not to fuck with the kinda of people that would be so horrible to anyone who just wants to be themselves. I'm glad you felt safe to share your experience and glad that you enjoyed the video. The critiques of the game came from a place of wanting the game to be the best it could be. I can see why people might love cyberpunk 2077 and I'm open to sequels and it being better but I also think it's important to hold it to a higher standard and not leave us gamers to just accept its short comings or ignore the toxicity of the companies decisions. Again not blaming the Devs. From what I've seen they wanted to make something sick and management at every turn screwed them all over. Anf if nothing else fuck Ben shapiro and Jordan Peterson 🤣
My sentiment exactly. Like I didn't hate it. I played it for 80 hours. The video took a week to edit and 2 months to plan. I want to love it. I think I could. But also believe that we as consumer deserve more and the Devs deserve to be treated like people. If you love it can totally get it and I'm always happy to see someone find their game.
For me there are stronger feelings from I really like the game to I hate some its systems and aspects. I like the review as this one was trying to capture this duality.
@@KevstreehouseI also can’t wait for the DLC that comes out in September…the developers say it’s going to change peoples opinions on the game and will make it like it’s a whole new game….we shall see…and for $30 plus tax the DLC better be as good as they say
On the immersion point, I would actually argue the opposite. The fact that you can experience such a somber and gut-wrenching moment as Evelyn's death then immediately find dick guy to me is just representative of the depraved and almost lawless nature of night city. All around the place while real people are suffering and losing, just around the corner will be another idiot. If anything I kind of feel like the silly moments enhance the gravity and seriousness of the big events within the story, its kind of hard to put into words tbh. Kind of a 'Night City waits for no one vibe'.
I can see where you're coming from. If anything it's a pacing issue that open world games just have cause of their openness but its jarring. Not saying serious stuff can't have levity but it just felt kinda tone deaf for me. Again these are all personal things. If you can look past them and enjoy the game sweet.
Great video, I’ve always loved cyberpunk after giving it a second chance last year. I would kill to play the game completely unknowingly of the plot and everything, it brought me an experience that I could compare to playing gta v for the first time, plus emotion. 10/10
Yea, I’m hard disagreeing on the writing aspect. Our actual world is hyper irreverent and tone deaf anyways, and the whole “dying a nobody” thing is pretty fitting when you have messed up content right alongside campy idiocy. That’s how it is in our world already: one day on the news you’re gonna see a hate crime on the news and in the same day you’ll see a tik tok influencer coming up with a new dance. It’s a dystopia. Even the penis enlargement mission is pretty dystopian and fits with the theme of corporate rule, where corporations take advantage of sexual insecurity that society places in them and sell people faulty implants that cost tons more money to fix.
>be me >buys the game for 30 bucks during sales >goes in with low expectations due to the catastrophic launch >is positively surprised at nearly any aspect of the game >has the time of his life 🎮🗿
This is so relatable. I didn't personally know much about Cyberpunk for a long time after it launched. All I knew is it was a 1st person shooter RPG based in some sci-fi futuristic world and it wasn't my cup of tea. One day I had 30 bucks to spare and was like "eh...why not...". Now here I am on my 4th fucking playthrough and I just can't get the game out of my head. And as an aside, I did not understand the bugs complaints from the video. I am playing the game on an old RX580 with FSR on, almost maxed out graphically, stable 50-60 FPS and I have never encountered any game breaking bugs in my 250 hours of playtime. Not a single crash, no flying cars, not even t-posing (which was hilariously disappointing, in retrospect). Could be some hardware difference, I personally have no idea.
@@jonathanalexander9881 ikr. That was its correct price after all, we didn't exactly get what was promised by the developers. But the city is well made and perfectly catches the 80s futuristic movies vibes. I was intrigued by the plot and I wasn't disappointed in the end. The side quests and contracts were various, I never got bored. I found bugs on my second playthrough, maybe because on the first I was guided by the game (btw I played on my xbox series x)
Anyone who defends Ben or Jordan can go fuck themselves. They are nasty vindictive ass holes who have profited off the belittlement and harm of people they don't want to understand. I genuinely don't know if they believe everything they say and I dunno if that makes them better or worse than the people who do believe everything they say but they are scummy for doing that. Especially as they position themselves as intellectuals. Again I'm just some dumb ass who likes games but I know one thing if you want to do something that makes you feel like you fucking go for it dude. That's bad ass and the least I can as someone that has never struggled with something like gender identity the least I can do is say fuck those guys. There's this line I love in Brooklyn 99 the world becomes a more interesting place when someone stands up and says who they are. Hope you continue to be you dude. And hope you enjoyed the video.
Completely agree on the lack of activities. The raing and boxing could have been expanded.Getting the band together and going on tour would have been fun. You hit the mark with the GTA 5 comment concerning activities. Project CD Red did not even give us a firing range to test weapons.
and what's wild is that most of this stuff is already set up in side quests and they never do anything with it. Guitar could have been a little rythme mini game but instead you awkawardly watch a concert in first person
Bought this game on the Xbox Series-X over a year ago and only fired it up for the first time a couple of weeks ago (and it seems I picked a good time to do so, as I wasn't aware of all the problems in the earlier versions). 50 hours of gameplay later, after completing all the main side character stories and an ending of my choice, I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm not a hardcore gamer though and was on gaming hiatus for over a decade until recently, so I don't have much to compare it to. As much I loved it, I don't really have the desire to do a second playthrough and have chosen to view all the alternative outcomes and choices on UA-cam instead. Looking foward to Phantom Liberty.
Yeah like I don't hate the game but as someone who's followed it from announcement to release it feels super undercooked. I don't want to tear it down but for it to be as amazing as it could be.
Started playing this game 2 months ago and somehow managed to stack 300 hours in it. I really love the combat and how badass it can make you feel at higher levels (not that it doesn't have its issues, it's just fun if you have a build in mind to adhere to), as well as of course the setting and graphics. Mods can also significantly improve your experience, so console users get the short end of the stick with this one. Beyond that, i'd say it leaves a lot to be desired, would have a hard time recommending it. Btw, there aren't 4 people that wanna date you, more like 2 depending on V's gender.
@@Kevstreehouse I only listened to the Morro Rock and Radio Vexelstorm Stations because I didn’t really care for the others. The Ballad of Buck Ravers, Black Dog, and especially Never Fade Away are such bangers!!
@@brandonwooldridge1877 I knew never fade away from that one mission where you play it for a concert. I dunno that kinda scream metal isn't really my cup of tea but if you dig it that's sweet
maybe im just a simple bloke but i do find myself very immersed in this world and despite the occasionally wildly disparate tones of the side missions to main mission content (im considering judys story main path because it branches off of the first major mission) for the setting it is entirely appropriate and just zany enough in my book, they could have gone for full on comedy for some parts and it would have been fine
Oh I don't have an issue with comedy injections fallout is great for that it's just that it usually tells you up top this world is a little wacky. From the word go cyberpunk was kinda pitched as this uber serious dystopia so for me it was another mark in the we don't know what we want to be column. Not a bad game just confused
People need to clarify that these reviews aren’t talking about last generation. I started on 4 and put it away. I switched to a 5 and it’s become one of my favorites now of all time.
On the gun thing, I kinda agree with you until I don’t. The game really wants you to zoom in then shoot, which makes it more accurate. And with damage, I agree with you until you get weapons with 250 damage. Then normal enemies are 2 shots with headshots
I'll admit it's a consistency issue for me too. Some just feel better than others but it's on a case by case basis rather than strickly pistols feeling better than smgs
beautiful work, it's just sad what cd did to cyberpunk, don't get me wrong, i loved it when i played. But i really want to play the cyberpunk that was promised to us back then, no bugs, a more alive city, true rpg mechanics. A good thing it is the modding community that does all kind of mods for the lacking stuff ingame or even reworking whole mechanics to fill that gap. Let's see if the dlc can fill some of the gaps.
Hey, its definitely late but I just wanted to say great video. Personally I love Cyberpunk 2077, I don't know what it is, I just got hooked from day one, not saying the game was good then, but I liked it. Also, about the end, i'll tell you why I prefer cyberpunk 2077 over the other options you mentioned. Deus Ex: I want to play as my own character, not one pre-made. V isn't 100% mine but I get good customization with both the character creator and clothing (definitely helped by mods like equipment ex and cosmopolitan night city, allowing V to speak different language's while the other characters speak english) Ghostrunner: Good game but it has way less content then cyberpunk + the problem I have with deus ex Edgerunners: Its great but only has 10 episodes. Tabletop: I personally don't really care for tabletop RPG's but even if I did, I don't have anyone to play with. Definitely specific wants but cyberpunk 2077 more or less passes all of them mentioned. Which very few games do. Only others I like are Skyrim and Rimworld. There are definitely others that probably do that (like BG3) but if you don't want a top-down rpg, options are very limited. About character customization, I cant tell you the amount of time I have spent just making outfits for V, or creating V's. The mod "Equipment EX" makes it far better then the base game, I know I cant credit CDPR for the mods themselves, but I can credit them for keeping the game open enough to mod it. back to character creation, There's also multiple body type mods. If I'm making a more ninja-like V, I can use a slim body. or if I want muscular V, there are options for that to, some of the body mods actually automatically fits clothing properly (including modded clothes without needing a patch) so there'ss minimal clipping. Best part is that there's options for both Masc V and Fem V, which as embarrassed as I am to say this.. its rare for Masc characters to get body mods in other games.... for reasons.... I think the reason why I like Cyberpunk 2077 is its basically the Skyrim of the cyberpunk genre. Buggy, wonky gameplay, not the best game ever, but fun to mess around in and has a ton of mods. I shouldn't like the game, the flaws are sticking on to the game like a tumor, but I do anyways. I never really got hyped for the game until about a month before release, so I think that helped me just see it for what it was, and not what it was meant to be. Also mods add in some of the smaller things back like wall hanging and the metro (before it was added in an update) I don't think we should forget the past, I forgive CDPR but I wont forget. The launch Is a permanent stain on an otherwise great catalog of games. Even though I don't believe in moral buying, I definitely understand why some do so, and I don't blame someone for skipping this game because of the horrid crunch the dev's went through. I think the dev's (including higher-ups) realized it was a huge problem. According to the Phantom Liberty director, there was little to no crunch when making the DLC. Of course he's the director so its not 100% reliable info but lower level staff did back up what he said. I hope the right lessons were learned with 2077's launch and they can do better in the future. source: www.ign.com/articles/phantom-liberty-director-insists-cd-projekt-has-moved-away-from-crunch
Well, i admit that CDPR did not good move with old console platform, overwhelming advertisming and some missing features. But i got a game that i expected and for me it's one of the best games i ever played, it has a soul not like f.e. Ubi games. I have 380+ hours, readed all shards, founded all secrets, played all quests and still don't have enough, just a love that game... sometimes i just go to Night city and drive with good music in the radio. And i don't know where people found these bugs, from day one (PS5) i have only few little bugs, nothing extra. I'm just lucky man in the games, others have tons of bugs i have none :D 9/10 No regrets
Killer vid on one of my personal favorite games, glaring flaws and all. The section on the games development was eye opening, great stuff, unionize games development and journalism.
Glad you got a kick out of it. Yeah games journalism is a hard one to solve as even with more mainstream news work it's not as segregated as gaming news. Like when you read the paper it'll have current affiairs global news sport whatever. Games journal segration and niche nature means they have to rely on sponsorship mainly from game companies to remain afloat. The only other potential means of funding would be fans maybe. But then that means very few of them could exist and budgets would be much lower. Who knows maybe the UA-cam era will stem that with more wholly independent reports but that has its own issue like having less checks and needing citation 🤔
It reminds me a lot of Blade Runner. I started playing this game for the first time ever 4 days ago. I've put in about 12 hours per day so far and I'm grinding sides quests/ hooked up with Panam. The game usually crashes towards the end of my day but I think that's from putting long term stress on my hardware. Besides this I haven't experienced any major bugs and the game runs smooth as butter. Probably the biggest and best looking game out there right now. I play on ultra settings with 4 year old hardware so the game is not very demanding.
The biggest overall issue with the game imo is purely just. Polish. More dynamic interactions. More sensible animations. Cleaned up UI. More responsive controls when it comes to movement and vehicles. And yes bugs Overall I enjoyed it enough to complete most side content in the game and I plan to do something similar once phantom liberty comes out.
Fantastic video! I thoroughly enjoyed Cyberpunk for the story, the characters and the freedom you have in approaching missions, but you’ve hit the nail on the head with every criticism of the game and CDPR. There’s irony to the fact that corporate fucked up a dystopian story about a capitalist hellscape where the corpos are the bad guys.
The real sad part of it is if you don't buy the game, the people who worked hard for those crunch time hours won't get paid and may even lose or lost their jobs so it's more like a catch 22 situation.
Yeah that's the thing about boycotting games. The Devs get the worst part of the deal and the executives who make the terrible decision just get to go on working.
Not to say your criticism isn't valid, but there's some points where I'd personally disagree. First of all, imo it's not that hard to classify it, but neither is it really necessary. It's an open world first-person action rpg, but of course has its unique spin on it. In fact, it's conceptually just like the witcher in most ways, just in a different setting, with different weapons and with first person camera (and obviously less side content and less choices with visible consequences, but then again nothing else comes close to the witcher 3 in that regard anyway). It also has a looter-shooter feeling to it, but that's not really a genre, just a set of mechanics/way of progression that can in theory exist in many genres (which in cyberpunk is quite optional given crafting is a perfectly viable alternative). But regardless, it doesn't have to fit any existing categories, I'd argue that the format exists as a result of trying to provide a certain vision or experience, rather than directing that experience through the spectrum of an established format, both can be valid approaches. About side content - personally I'd always appreciate more side content simply because it makes the game world feel more alive and complete, however given limited resources, development time etc. I'd give them the lowest possible priority. Most side content in games like GTA is skipped by majority of players (or played once, deemed boring and never attempted again, which is what happened to me), I still like the fact that those options are there, but really - once you finish GTA and all its side quests, there's nothing meaningful to do either (for most players). Yakuza on the other hand, really relies on those minigames, they're given a great focus and are an integral part of what makes the game so memorable - their silliness contrasts with the often dark and serious main story. The game is also mechanically simple enough to allow greater focus on those minigames. Also a nitpick - the roach race arcade game in cyberpunk isn't just in 1 missable location - it's actually all over the place, including in some of your purchasable apartments, I encountered it probably at least 20 times myself (not to say that it makes it good or anything though). I'd love to see stuff like spontaneous street races I can join, more city events like major gang wars or large shootouts between cyberpsychos and maxtac, there's some stuff out there but ofc there could always be more. About traveling - hard disagree for me, I love traveling around the city, appreciating the views, occasionally stopping for some world events. In fact, I never end up fast as a result. At first I really hated the handling of most vehicles and I still think it could use some work, but once you get used to it, it's really not that bad and it allows you to do some really cool stuff like drift every corner and do akira bike slides. Only the very fastest cars I'd deem absolutely uncontrollable, everything else, while sliding around a lot, is manageable with a little effort and can be quite fun once you get there. I agree that navigation could have been better but personally I don't rly care since I just love driving around, figuring out my own routes, memorizing spots and how to get there efficiently etc. Not everyone's cup of cake though ofc. The problem with using real licensed music is that it'd cost much more and what's worse - licenses would expire and music would have to be removed from the game in the future - this is the case with every single game that uses real life music. If you try to play old gta titles, you'll notice half of the radio tracks are just gone, along with half of the atmosphere the game used to have. Not that I wouldn't like more memorable tracks in the game, just saying it would have come with its own share of issues. Also, the model they went for helped promote some less known artists too which is great. About builds - I have to disagree too. The fact that you can try multiple viable playstyles without hard-speccing into them is a good thing imo. The build system is not ideal, but it's really not that bad. Enemies feeling like sponges is largely dependent on your build too, you can use some real hand-cannon guns that 1-shot everything, in fact most non-automatic handguns are very powerful even without min-maxing. If you spec your character right for your playstyle, you can really have crazy fun. Same with stealth - it's ok on it's own but if you spec heavily into it and get matching cybernetics, you can do some crazy satisfying stealth parkour shit or pretty much walk through the crowd of enemies and kill them all before they realize you're there, check out some youtube videos of people doing it, it can be really fun. Smart weapons are some of the weakest in the game, specifically because they aim for you, necessitating balance. I'd argue that using smart guns is the least fun way to play (for me), and would recommend a sandevistan power handgun build, berserk lmg+shotgun+melee build or stealth+netrunner build. I don't think ridiculous quests ruin immersion, it's quite literally the same thing that yakuza does, which you praised for its side content quality. In fact, it's kind of the whole point of night city, it's dark, depressing, life is shitty and yet people keep flocking to it. You have people starving next to billboards advertising some latest kitch garbage, tv's playing shows justifying police brutality. The whole world is full of those contrasts, that's what makes it stand out, you see the elites having fun and dealing with some idiotic issues like dick cyberware malfunctioning while the low blow their brains out because of their traumatic experiences, this isn't an omission, it's fully intended. Also, cops do stop you when you kill pedestrians, if you kill any you get an instant wanted level. Taking a gun out in public is normal in night city, if you do so in certain locations though, gangs etc. can turn hostile. There are kids on streets, it's just not common (not that any parents would let their kids play outside in such city). And about the launch fiasco and performance issues - no comment needed there of course, I'm writing from the perspective of how the game is right now (since the video itself is recent).
Thanks for the comment man. Like you said all my stuff is personal stuff. I just felt like no one else was mentioning it and I'll agree most of it was subjective but it would have been nice to hear about them before I bought. If you disagree I totally understand. Hope you enjoyed the video regardless.
I'm all for an unbiased review, but 17:34 onwards have nothing to do with answering your title. It would be a nice part of a review if you're talking about the launch state though. Kind of went off the rails there.
I'm thinking of picking this game up soon but I'm hearing the story is way too short and there's no replay value to the game play main missions or side missions is this true
the main story can be a little short. The rub is alot of the optional side quest are interweaved with it like for instance one character has a whole ending associated with them but I'm pretty sure it's only available if you engae with her whole quest line so that can beef up the run time a bit. For this review I played through all the major characters side stories and clocked maybe about 26 hours and that was more or less critical path all the majpr side characters quest lines and a handful of inconsequentially side quest just for fun. My first playthrough learning all the ropes and trying to do everything clocked in around th 60ish hours. replay value I wouldn't say is major. At most it changes a few different dialogue options based on the starting path and you can maybe open optional paths depending on your build but I wouldn't say anything as significant as the likes of a alpha protocol or something like that. Hope this helped
As someone who is studying computer science and wants to do game development but also loves cyberpunk, it truly is disheartening to see what was happening behind the scene. As much as I want to encourage the development of games like cyberpunk, i would be dumber than anyone to overlook the humanitarian aspect of it all. It's really does outline how bad the industry is and sometimes discourages me from even being a game developer, but I guess sometimes you do have to be the change you want to see in the world. I could always be an indie dev, but that's easier said than done. btw seeing the trans support in the video was really nice. While im not trans myself, im very close with those who are, so it's good to seeing more and more support, especially in the gaming community.
This is one of the few comments I've gotten on this video which hasn't been hate filled fan boy garbage so thanks for that man. Also don't let the current state of the games industry scare you away from the industry. Maybe just be cognisant of the issues and call them out when you can
You know that crunch in game is not a novelty its as ancient as the game industry itself. Actualy its as ancient as art in general (Michelangelo die because of overworking). When games will become industrial like making socks there will be no more crunch and the games will looks and feel as boring as socks...The same coukd be said for movies most of the greatest movie went through hellish production time. Nothing great has and will ever be done easely, you have to fight for it, give it your all.
What makes me sad about the game is learning that in trying to include Old Gen players, they shot themselves in the foot in the process. The time taken into the old generation game could of been placed into the other aspects in the game that was showcased
it's weird cause like now plenty of companies will release the current gen version and have previous gen versions later. Give them time to recoup costs and make a little money and frees up resources to actually focus on optimizing games for those platforms. I know it's not ideal but from a development standpoint it seems like the best case scenario to me.
As good as some people think this game is (and I personally don't) I find that Deus Ex so clearly did almost every element of Cyberpunk 2077 already and in a much better way. Like, not even that I just prefer it, it was factually better by such an outstandingly huge margin. xD That was the most shocking thing I found when playing the game.
Couldn't agree more. Human revolution even has that slick gold look to everything that made it feel super unique and the use of the cyberpunk theme is so much stronger there. Plus the cyber ware system while good here is leaps better there.
@@Kevstreehouse Also, can't believe Jordan Peterson shat himself and then rubbed his own face in it afterwards. I'll tell my stepdad next time I catch him watching one of his videos 😂
@@TheRetroPerspective oh yeah him and auld Ben. Like theirs no shame in ibs but come on lads. Burying the truth behind radical statements you don't believe isn't the answer.
Gotta agree with the class thing. You don't get stater Berserk or Sandavistan, so unless you know what you are doing ie guides....well you will probably be fine on "Normal" but that don't fly on hard.
Exactly what I was going for when I suggested the class option. Obviously dark souls is different but you get an idea of what spread your stats should be and you start with equipment that you would have as a given class. Wizards have magic and wands, pyromancers have fire on their off hand etc. So how come you can't have a level one nano wire or more quick hacks if you're a net runner? It just seems silly to me. Plus it pays homage to the source material which did have classes.
the music makes it to the bad list. So, I start up a new play through and after I clear out a room full of Maelstrom, I walk into the room with the radio playing the music from episode 6 when Maine and David have their last conversation. So I gotta believe you think all the music from Edgerunners is bad since it's all the music from the game.
No I singled out Who's ready for tomorrow and I really want to stay at your house as good tracks its just the majority of them were completley forgetable in my opinion
Cool video. For me, this game is uneven as hell. I do not know what to blame and what to reward for this state. What I know is that I bought the premiere with great gadgets and as a fan of cyberpunk and a Pole I have an interesting relationship with this game. Like with a family member who drinks and runs away from home, but who will do anything for you and shower you with gifts. Not to mention the crazy anime, with fkin Yamaoka, Dawid Podsiadło and Trigger Studio.
we have a big polish community here in Ireland and I used to work with a few poles in my last job and can I just say I have missed that sense of humor. Thank you for making my day with that hilarious comment 😄
Cyberpunk at launch was agreeably a disaster. I pre-ordered the game on PC and couldn't play more than 4 hours of it. After getting into other cyberpunk genre games like Ghostrunner and Turbo Overkill I was still feeling that itch for Cyberpunk. After the anime Edgerunners and the 1.51 patch for Cyberpunk i decided to give it another go. Since then I've been hooked on the game. Now with 4 hundred hours and multiple playthroughs i still find myself loving the game. I especially love the feeling of strolling Night City and the combat of the game. But i do still admit that the game feels shallow in some areas. Mainly the classes not being as vital to one's character as i was hoping, some ways on engaging combat feel very underpowered whilst some feel too overpowered and many other things. I've taken the liberty of modding the game and i can confidently say that my current modded version is the only one that I'd play anymore. I'm really hoping that CDPR address some of the issues in the DLC. Mainly some combat aspects like enemies feeling too spongy and melee combat feeling a bit off. And of course vehicle combat and police chases. And maybe some attribute balances and perks in some skill trees being changed. I never knew how much i loved the Cyberpunk genre and i most definitely need to try some of the Deus Ex games and other ones too. Really hoping that CDPR aren't done with Mike Pondsmith's TTRPG cyberpunk genre and will perhaps some day make another Cyberpunk game. Tho this time without management pissing on the development team and crunching another half-baked game. Fantastic video "K-Dog" :)
Hey man thanks for all this and being so understanding. I will say if the game had launched in its post edgerunners state I think it be a much more favourable experience. I know a couple of the viewers commenting here are pc players so maybe drop the details of your mod so they can find it? Glad you found something great in the game. But come on. KDAWG AIN'T MY NAME!
@@seanomalley856 I'm currently running many mods, some of the more notable ones are: Always First Equip Arasaka Cyberarms Custom Quickslots 2018 EU HUD Guaranteed Dismemberment Immersive Rippers Large Blood Splatters More Blood More Gore Better Fast Travel Map More Eddies Found Lying Around Skillful System-Ex Simple Untrack Quest PLS Rebalanced Simple XP Multiplier There are many mods that'll make your Cyberpunk experience unique and i'm still constantly looking for more mods to improve my experience.
@@zakk3le598 thank you so much! I really appreciate the help and your list of mods. I am familiar with some of these but a lot of the quality of life mods seems so helpful! Do you use nexus mods? Also what are your thoughts on the cyberpsychosis mod?
@@seanomalley856 I do use Nexus mods. I don't use Vortex and download everything manually. I think the Edgerunner Cyberpsychosis mod actually looks very good. Even tho canonically V isn't the type to get cyberpsychosis the mod can let you play a different version and see the world through a cyberpsychos eyes. I don't personally plan on playing with it, but it does look very well made and very cool on what it sets out to do. Some mods that peaked my interest and might pick up soon for another playthrough of the game: Lifepath Bonuses and Gang-Corp Traits Street Vendors Level Scaling and Balance AI Netrunners Enchanced Silent Silencers and Throwing Knives Vehicle Combat Sensible Stamina and Athletics Realistic Combat Overhaul And so many other more. It sometimes feels exhausting trying to find all the mods that you want.
Generally a good review, but some things you, in my opinion, missed or got wrong: - the minigame can be played at several places, basically almost everywhere where arcades are, even in one of the apartments you can buy - the tone shifts were probably on purpose, because the world and NC in specific treats themes like death, human trafficing etc very casually and also is very over-sexualized, so those tone shifts actually added to the world building for me - "why come there be so few people in the city or no kids at all for that matter?" There is an option in the settings called "crowd density", if you set that to high, there are a lot more people in the city, depending on the location of course, some places are more crowded than others. Not sure if this setting exists on consoles, at least on PC, it increases CPU usage, so it's definitely a technical limitation on consoles. Regarding kids - sorry, don't get it, I regularly saw kids in the city
No other game I can recall made ma so conflicted. There is the good but for each good part there is a bad counter part. With 1.61 on current gen console it is less ugly though (I bought a game around 1.3 half price, played a bit, and put it on shelf). There are still bugs and glitches but nothing so far that will be game (or mission breaking).
Bruh I gotta disagree with half of the bad. Identity crisis agreed. Lack of mini games agreed, although you stated it was in one location when it’s in hundreds but whatever. Travel is ok to me but the complaint about music is utterly stupid that is one of the games highest praises, so most people disagree. Fluid class systems are apart of big rpgs and have been for at least a decade. V is an instant master, agreed. Points don’t offer as much as new Vegas true but it’s new Vegas but they’re solid bypasses for levels and a few open up new options, yes not as good as new Vegas but holy shit it’s new Vegas like no shit. Yes the guns aren’t the greatest it’s not a dedicated FPS shooter Fallout New Vegas (my favorite game of all time) has some of the worst shooting in a game period. Lol at the sponge enemies literally just build your class optimally and you’ll wipe the floor with anyone on any difficulty beginning of a game of course you won’t, you ran up to a dude with guts and barely did damage my guy you haven’t invested a thing into annihilation then. Bosses are the worst agreed. You’re mad melee is optimal… I guess you can be mad about that if you want. Lol plenty of guns feel like guns the only difference with guts is that it moves you backwards when you shoot so… idk what you want there. Lol wild tone shift? Bitch it’s an open world there’s going to be heavy quests, funny quests and depressing quests, sounds a lot like new Vegas but it’s not an issue there for some reason, also it ruins the immersion? Like what life isn’t one emotion, maybe yours is but the rest of us aren’t synths. Yes CDPR under delivered agreed. There’s a ton of kids in the game, cops do come after albeit in a dogshit manner that could be better. Gun in public hey it’s night city also no one gives af in literally almost every other game and no npcs? Really? Dude I’ve never seen a more crowded city in gaming. Can’t date enough people, I mean yeah I guess but I’ve never really cared about that so yeah agreed. Glitches… yep completely warranted criticism. So you game bad section is only half right lol. Liberal Bitch lol
Don't quote me on this. But I'm sure I saw SOMEWHERE that CDPR MAY make Cyberpunk open source, what I do know is that they're making modding more accessible. I personally think it's worth it, the only reason that it was bad was because of tyrannical deadlines. The people who worked on it poured their heart and soul into the game. I enjoyed it even at launch. But that's my opinion.
meh review, reason it is, "Is it worth your time in 2023?" you sir did not answer that question. You gave a great history of the game from develepement to the initial launch year which I agree it was a fucking train wreck. Nothing about if they fix the bugs, patch that fix more bugs, patches for stuff that was added to the game or any stuff take out. how does the game play in the year 2023, is it worth buying the game now in 2023 or wait till 2077(see what I did there). Would you buy the game if it on sale, and at what price.(me I say on sale for $25 I will buy it). You just stated what most people know and what happen during launch, nothing about it being worth your time in the year 2023.
that's fair. Again it's not a bad game but at launch and with all they promised it's a bit of a let down. If you like the look of it I'd say give it a go
Your telling me in a world as big as Night City. We Cant have Serious Mission and Silly Missions in the same world. Most of the Silly Missions are not even labeled. Where you are guided to the Serious one. I didn't even encounter Flaming Crouch Man until way later. Its like saying that in GTA you shouldn't be about Pick up a Hooker , Beat her up and take your money back. Because "THIS IS A SERIOUS GAME". There already a lot of Silly stuff that not even gameplay. Like The Advertising and Live TV Adverts. I Really don't have problem with it. Its not a Batman Game.
I just picked this game up today for only $24 ….I have the PS5 version. I hear a lot of good things about the game and I hope they are true…still a good deal even I go it’s not as great as they say
I'd say the 20 price is kinda the perfect pice point to try before you buy. Ps5 version was what I played here and in my experience was the most stable version of the game aside from pc.
On the RPG part late marketing dropped this part. This of course does not justify the game and its skill point and talent trees. While I do not thing classes are needed, it would be enough if the skills mattered a lot more. The problem is they do not, not to mention some of the skills seems to be even more useless than the others. As it was not really explained in a good way I went with intelligence (net runner) plus technical. And honesty technical is not that appealing to me with loot everywhere. But this means I’m underpowered in my body and reflexes (both level 5). I do not feel like this matters at all. I would imagine that due to poor reflexes I should be worse in gun and any blade weapon handling and with less strength it should lock me out of certain things. For example there is some cyberware which require particular level for a skill but gorrila fists no, If V has the money you can buy them use them getting +4 to body. I would imagine that a net runner will not be able to complete the boxing matches and it should be a different build, I imagine that a stealth V would have advantage in missions requiring stealth but without this skills it would be very hard to impossible to fulfill being stealthy. After I’m some with my 1st play through (currently doing chores - I mean contracts that just feel like open world filler) I will do another one when I will invest (still in netrunning) but different set of skills and just go through the story to check if it changes the gameplay but I doubt it. There is too many things that are just half baked, and I do not like the looting system but this is subject for separate discussion/rant.
I'll admit classes were entirely something I alone wanted. though I thought i be a nice touch as there are a few other games based on table top rpgs that just bring class mechanics to the video game adaption and I always appreciate the translation of pen and paper mechanics to game mechanics. Again thats just me and completely see why it might not be an area they wanted to focus on
CDPR downfall was the most predictable and laughable matter. Their writing in Blood and Wine was CW level of bad and their cult of personality single handendly rivals actual Mega Churches in their delusions. So the news of Cyberpunk 2077, game which by the title alone feels like corpo gentrification of genre (which is also proven by how game writers cut all actual fun and unique aspects of TTRPG while turning Yellow Peril to eleven, which beats most of 80s cyberpunk stories, where such fears at least made lick of sense), being shit was my pleasant surprise for my ego and yet even I was shocked by level of stupid and that even Investors feel justified in their law suit .
@@Kevstreehouse and you want to hear only good stuff about your video? You don't want any critisicm? I can just delete my comments if you want. I really don't care and there is no goal to offend you.
@@juliam8252 you literally just said I was a bad reviewer. I can't see how you weren't trying to be offensive. I've also kept a lot of comments on this video that were negative towards the video. As for the stuff I critiqued I did gameplay, story, music, user experience and design. I'm curious as to what I was supposed to critique? I really don't care what you do but you commented on the video 3 times so I appreciate you helping the vid reach more people 😃
I completely disagree with u on almost everything u said lol rhe writing and the combat is better than any other open world game in recent memory man.. ur criticisms r kinda baffling.. when compared to other open world games, where will u find better combat n writing? I mean sure the game isn’t perfect, but man ur reaching for some of these criticisms
@@Kevstreehouse appreciate the video none the less, I just think maybe u didn’t give the game a fair shot .. but if u did and u still feel this way that’s fine too
@@SayMy_User_Name well I played through it twice and have logged about 80 hours in so I think I did. Writing I thought was good in the more fleshed out parts it's just widely inconsistent in alot of the optional content and the moment to moment gameplay never felt right. Again if you dug it cool but I feel the narrative around the games quality never really mentions alot of the issues I found. 🤷♂️
@@Kevstreehouse Except that your criticisms are way off base. For instance in the RPG Segment you go off about classes, when the Cyberpunk system offers you way way way more choice in how you build out your character, especially when the Cyberware is factored in. I have played through multiple times with wildly differing builds that radically shifted game play. In Mass Effect(my favorite trilogy of games), there are only two classes that do this, Vanguard and Infiltrator(and honestly Infiltrator is fairly similar to the Soldier class), all of the other classes are variations on sit behind cover and cast you abilities. This is just a single example, pretty much everything you said after a certain point, was a mess of contradictory statements, and surface level criticisms. 80 hours in 2 play-throughs, tells me you barely scratched the surface of this game. My typical play through lasts 70-80 hours on its own, and even in those I didn't do everything that can be done.
@@stephendoe7594 again to each his own. If a game takes 100 hours to get good I'd say that's a failing on the games design not mine the players. Cause if you ask me that's not a good experience that's Stockholm syndrome. Plus in my intial playthrough I did do all the major story and side quest. The only thing I ignored was the side gigs so unless they drastically change the game can't say I'd take back what I say. Again if you like the game cool. I enjoyed the writing for the most part just felt like the game needed more time in development and bad business killed it 🤷♂️
6:39. You can stop right there. That woke shout out just killed my interest in your video. Generalize. Don't suck up. Holy hell, man. I hate people like that.
@@Kevstreehouse Well if "it isn't" and "it never was" (worth the time) are the same then if it's double negative then shouldn't it be positive so "it always was"?
@@Kevstreehouse No problem, maybe take some time to take in some more JP content. Might help with that misinformed issue of yours. Good luck with your videos.
Play without the HUD holding your damn hand and the world becomes a lot more than just quests to go complete and feels waaaaaay more natural and alive. Also if you only sunk in around 80 hours, good chance you missed quite a bit unless you were playing on easy and just mowed through the game. I'm on my 3rd playthrough and so far have had a different experience every time. Also, why would the main character stop to play mini games at all when they are actively dying?
As far as I can tell I played through all the side gigs in the game, I kept the map on cause the city design never felt like it made any sense and I didn't play any more than the 80 hours I did cause I have a life and very little time to play games. As for mini games they're a design aspect that breakups mission structures and employed in literally every open world game ever so it seems weird to not have them. Also v is only dying when the story dictates it. By the same logic why would v take optional side gigs or do jobs for random strangers when he's dying. Plus the game has waiting built into its design and you can already play guitar or smoke in your apartment so there is already a precedent for the game to go for the immersion that mini games provides. Again if you enjoy the game good on you but I don't think it's much more than an okay experience from a technical and design point of view. 🤷♂️
@@Kevstreehouse There's a lot of quests that aren't put anywhere in the journal, so cant really go off the I checked all the items off my list to determine if you actually took it all in, a good majority of missions have different outcomes depending on how they are handled, different characters can either live or die, and effect the game later on, it just isnt thrown at you in the aspect you may be ecpecting it to. The design of the city doesnt make sense at first, but once you learn it, you understand why it is set up the way it is. Gotta remember it takes time to learn a city of this scope as well, doubt most people in life could move to a new city and have it down in 80 hours, just food for thought. I recommend giving it another go, because I tried to go back to The Witcher 3 after my first playthrough, and I could not stick to it, or become immersed like I could the last couple of times. The NPC's in TW3 may as well be additional Notice boards, they live in the world, but the player does not. The entire world seems to revolve around Geralt, where as V just lives in Night City, and nothing more, which sucks me right back in. And so far, aside from a couple of conversations I havent had any repeating dialogues, there's differences for almost everything, and at least 3 outcomes or results based on choice actions or dialogue you did or chose. Where as the TW3 it's just just a negative or positive result, very rarely does a middle ground or third option present itself. There's a reason the main questline can be completed in 4 hours it's meant to be played a few times. If you decide to give it another go and you are on PC, I recommend using, these mods to imporove the experience and remain faithful to the lore. DJ Korviiks Limited HUD Mod, 2018 Spicys E3 Hud Mod, Time Dialation Overhaul, Street Style (Makes your clothing choices matter to NPC's and gives some bonuses),, Better Throwing Knives, Lifepath Bonuses, Gangs of Night City, Enhanced Craft, Proper Level Scaling, System EX, Ripperdeck, Wannabe Edgerunner (Implents a stat to induce cyberpsychosis on the player causing them visual glitches, damage, weapon change, and accidental killing of NPCs and 3 star wanted level, must take neuroblockers or go to apartment and sleep to get rid of the glitches) , Immersive 1st person, immersive bartenderr, driving and Vic, Few others im prolly forgertting but oh weeell.
@@HvNzSoul I have checked the quest lists on wikis and I have seen all of them aside from the fixer gigs I have done them all. Also I have played the game twice. And as I said in the video there are quest I genuinely love it's just that there are more throw away nothing experiences in my opinion. What's good is some of the best stuff I've seen but the inconsistency is so bad in those throw away quest. Again I have played 80 hours. If a game needs more time to convince that's a failing on the games end. I gave it more than a fair chance. I don't like this game. If you do great but please stop trying to convince me there was something I missed. Cause what I missed I can honestly say I don't care. I don't like the game. If you do great glad you love it enough to suggest it but I'd ask that you respect my decision to not like it and move on. And its not even that I hate the game I just want it to be better for everyone and let people know it has its shortcoming. So again please stop trying to tell me I'm wrong about my experience cause its my experience.
wasnt expecting to be hit with random trans ally-ness, thanks for that
- Sincerly, a random trans woman who now feels a little safer on the internet
P.S. : this was a really well made video and a lot of the points made a lot of sense. even tho i still love playing cyberpunk and cant wait to see what the new dlc is like, i still see a lot of the issues that are mentioned in this video and they do kinda take me out of the love i have for the game when i notice them.
A friend of mine began transitioning about a year ago and it's been really disheartening to see how they've been treated by the wider world. I think the least I can do is make it apparent how I feel about the subject cause I'd prefer not to fuck with the kinda of people that would be so horrible to anyone who just wants to be themselves. I'm glad you felt safe to share your experience and glad that you enjoyed the video. The critiques of the game came from a place of wanting the game to be the best it could be. I can see why people might love cyberpunk 2077 and I'm open to sequels and it being better but I also think it's important to hold it to a higher standard and not leave us gamers to just accept its short comings or ignore the toxicity of the companies decisions. Again not blaming the Devs. From what I've seen they wanted to make something sick and management at every turn screwed them all over.
Anf if nothing else fuck Ben shapiro and Jordan Peterson 🤣
except prodigy and pendulum i would not listen to your playlist
I’m torn because on one hand, I’m in love with the game for what it is, but on the other, I wish it could be more
My sentiment exactly. Like I didn't hate it. I played it for 80 hours. The video took a week to edit and 2 months to plan. I want to love it. I think I could. But also believe that we as consumer deserve more and the Devs deserve to be treated like people. If you love it can totally get it and I'm always happy to see someone find their game.
For me there are stronger feelings from I really like the game to I hate some its systems and aspects.
I like the review as this one was trying to capture this duality.
I said IT WILL BE. And God Dammit it will!
@@Kevstreehousethat’s dedicating bro 👍🏻
@@KevstreehouseI also can’t wait for the DLC that comes out in September…the developers say it’s going to change peoples opinions on the game and will make it like it’s a whole new game….we shall see…and for $30 plus tax the DLC better be as good as they say
On the immersion point, I would actually argue the opposite. The fact that you can experience such a somber and gut-wrenching moment as Evelyn's death then immediately find dick guy to me is just representative of the depraved and almost lawless nature of night city. All around the place while real people are suffering and losing, just around the corner will be another idiot. If anything I kind of feel like the silly moments enhance the gravity and seriousness of the big events within the story, its kind of hard to put into words tbh. Kind of a 'Night City waits for no one vibe'.
thumbs up for da whole vid tho
I can see where you're coming from. If anything it's a pacing issue that open world games just have cause of their openness but its jarring. Not saying serious stuff can't have levity but it just felt kinda tone deaf for me. Again these are all personal things. If you can look past them and enjoy the game sweet.
i really hope the take away from this game is that cdpr were humbled big time and wont pull another cyberpunk again.
You and me both dude
Gotta love CDPR making a dystopian game while forcing devs to undergo a dystopian working situation
Thanks man poured my all into it so I'm glad you enjoyed it
I don't care what people say. You'll always be my "K-Dog".
Curse this metaphorical anchor!
Great video, I’ve always loved cyberpunk after giving it a second chance last year. I would kill to play the game completely unknowingly of the plot and everything, it brought me an experience that I could compare to playing gta v for the first time, plus emotion. 10/10
I think there is something to it but it's too marred to call a masterpiece. Would love to see a sequel handled properly
Criminally underrated channel. Keep it up and remember me when you hit a million subs!
Haha I dunno if I'm hitting the million. UA-cam doesn't seem to like my channel 😅
Yea, I’m hard disagreeing on the writing aspect. Our actual world is hyper irreverent and tone deaf anyways, and the whole “dying a nobody” thing is pretty fitting when you have messed up content right alongside campy idiocy. That’s how it is in our world already: one day on the news you’re gonna see a hate crime on the news and in the same day you’ll see a tik tok influencer coming up with a new dance. It’s a dystopia. Even the penis enlargement mission is pretty dystopian and fits with the theme of corporate rule, where corporations take advantage of sexual insecurity that society places in them and sell people faulty implants that cost tons more money to fix.
To each his own 🤷♂️
I started playing Cyberpunk a few month ago. It is an absolutely amazing emotional rollercoaster. I am loving every second of it.
Happy to hear. I can see why some people would dig it but for me it's a bit hard to love. Like it certainly but I dunno if I'd recommend it
You really need to check more cyberpunk stories, because game is gentrification of genre.
>be me
>buys the game for 30 bucks during sales
>goes in with low expectations due to the catastrophic launch
>is positively surprised at nearly any aspect of the game
>has the time of his life
🎮🗿
Thanks for the comment
This is so relatable. I didn't personally know much about Cyberpunk for a long time after it launched. All I knew is it was a 1st person shooter RPG based in some sci-fi futuristic world and it wasn't my cup of tea. One day I had 30 bucks to spare and was like "eh...why not...". Now here I am on my 4th fucking playthrough and I just can't get the game out of my head.
And as an aside, I did not understand the bugs complaints from the video. I am playing the game on an old RX580 with FSR on, almost maxed out graphically, stable 50-60 FPS and I have never encountered any game breaking bugs in my 250 hours of playtime. Not a single crash, no flying cars, not even t-posing (which was hilariously disappointing, in retrospect). Could be some hardware difference, I personally have no idea.
@@jonathanalexander9881 cool glad you didn't run into any bugs it crashed on me a bunch of times
@@jonathanalexander9881 ikr. That was its correct price after all, we didn't exactly get what was promised by the developers. But the city is well made and perfectly catches the 80s futuristic movies vibes. I was intrigued by the plot and I wasn't disappointed in the end. The side quests and contracts were various, I never got bored. I found bugs on my second playthrough, maybe because on the first I was guided by the game (btw I played on my xbox series x)
Thought this video had 183 THOUSAND views..
I wish 🤣
You should make a 2.0 update video
I was thinking about it but baldurs gate 3 is a hell of a drug.
Great video, I find your commentary insightful and isn't the same as other "Cyberpunk Bad" videos. Also I like your editing and humor style.
Thanks man. I really wanted to like the game and not needlessly be mean I feel I gave it a chance and think we should hold cdpr to a higher standard
ty for the Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson slander. just got yelled at by my dad for wearing a skirt so it was refreshing lol
Hope you can get out of that situation soon. I’m sorry your dad did that
Anyone who defends Ben or Jordan can go fuck themselves. They are nasty vindictive ass holes who have profited off the belittlement and harm of people they don't want to understand. I genuinely don't know if they believe everything they say and I dunno if that makes them better or worse than the people who do believe everything they say but they are scummy for doing that. Especially as they position themselves as intellectuals. Again I'm just some dumb ass who likes games but I know one thing if you want to do something that makes you feel like you fucking go for it dude. That's bad ass and the least I can as someone that has never struggled with something like gender identity the least I can do is say fuck those guys. There's this line I love in Brooklyn 99 the world becomes a more interesting place when someone stands up and says who they are. Hope you continue to be you dude. And hope you enjoyed the video.
@CLB Ronin thanks for the comment. Have a nice day.
As someone who paid 90 dollars Canadian.... YES IT'S WORTH IT!!!!
Glad you enjoyed your time with it
Completely agree on the lack of activities. The raing and boxing could have been expanded.Getting the band together and going on tour would have been fun. You hit the mark with the GTA 5 comment concerning activities. Project CD Red did not even give us a firing range to test weapons.
and what's wild is that most of this stuff is already set up in side quests and they never do anything with it. Guitar could have been a little rythme mini game but instead you awkawardly watch a concert in first person
Bought this game on the Xbox Series-X over a year ago and only fired it up for the first time a couple of weeks ago (and it seems I picked a good time to do so, as I wasn't aware of all the problems in the earlier versions). 50 hours of gameplay later, after completing all the main side character stories and an ending of my choice, I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm not a hardcore gamer though and was on gaming hiatus for over a decade until recently, so I don't have much to compare it to. As much I loved it, I don't really have the desire to do a second playthrough and have chosen to view all the alternative outcomes and choices on UA-cam instead. Looking foward to Phantom Liberty.
Yeah like I don't hate the game but as someone who's followed it from announcement to release it feels super undercooked. I don't want to tear it down but for it to be as amazing as it could be.
This is such a great video! This might be my favorite from you so far dude
My thoughts exactly
Awesome video man! Love it
Thanks man Appreciate it.
Yes, the answer is yes.
Thanks for the comment man.
Started playing this game 2 months ago and somehow managed to stack 300 hours in it. I really love the combat and how badass it can make you feel at higher levels (not that it doesn't have its issues, it's just fun if you have a build in mind to adhere to), as well as of course the setting and graphics. Mods can also significantly improve your experience, so console users get the short end of the stick with this one. Beyond that, i'd say it leaves a lot to be desired, would have a hard time recommending it.
Btw, there aren't 4 people that wanna date you, more like 2 depending on V's gender.
Yeah I felt like it have been a bit to mean to say 2 love interests but it's the sad truth.
The Samurai tracks absolutely slap 💯🤌🏻
Must have missed them buried in everything else. Also I felt like the mixing wasn't right.
@@Kevstreehouse I only listened to the Morro Rock and Radio Vexelstorm Stations because I didn’t really care for the others. The Ballad of Buck Ravers, Black Dog, and especially Never Fade Away are such bangers!!
@@brandonwooldridge1877 I knew never fade away from that one mission where you play it for a concert. I dunno that kinda scream metal isn't really my cup of tea but if you dig it that's sweet
maybe im just a simple bloke but i do find myself very immersed in this world and despite the occasionally wildly disparate tones of the side missions to main mission content (im considering judys story main path because it branches off of the first major mission) for the setting it is entirely appropriate and just zany enough in my book, they could have gone for full on comedy for some parts and it would have been fine
Oh I don't have an issue with comedy injections fallout is great for that it's just that it usually tells you up top this world is a little wacky. From the word go cyberpunk was kinda pitched as this uber serious dystopia so for me it was another mark in the we don't know what we want to be column. Not a bad game just confused
I'm so glad I found this, gonna be browsing the rest of your library soon.
Glad you liked it man. If you're looking for recommendations I think my marvel video and recent resident evil 4 video are good vids
People need to clarify that these reviews aren’t talking about last generation. I started on 4 and put it away. I switched to a 5 and it’s become one of my favorites now of all time.
You're gonna be BIG, Mate. Keep creating bro .
Thanks dude. Glad you got a kick out of the video.
On the gun thing, I kinda agree with you until I don’t. The game really wants you to zoom in then shoot, which makes it more accurate. And with damage, I agree with you until you get weapons with 250 damage. Then normal enemies are 2 shots with headshots
I'll admit it's a consistency issue for me too. Some just feel better than others but it's on a case by case basis rather than strickly pistols feeling better than smgs
You’re right…the world does need more Carl Urban.
Dam straight!
They sacrificed the RPG aspect to make a watered down Call of Duty clone.
and the shooting isn't even all that
beautiful work, it's just sad what cd did to cyberpunk, don't get me wrong, i loved it when i played. But i really want to play the cyberpunk that was promised to us back then, no bugs, a more alive city, true rpg mechanics. A good thing it is the modding community that does all kind of mods for the lacking stuff ingame or even reworking whole mechanics to fill that gap. Let's see if the dlc can fill some of the gaps.
Yeah I mean fans ultimately do have to salvage experiences like that. Happened with vampire and mass effect andromeda.
the fun thing it's that no matter what, i always come back to this game for any kind of content
@@rafinhakkm that's good.
Great work mate. I hope you go far on this platform.
Glad you enjoyed the video 😁
I'm dying. Best review ever
I hope not. The dying part not the best review ever part. That was nice of you to say XD
Hey, its definitely late but I just wanted to say great video. Personally I love Cyberpunk 2077, I don't know what it is, I just got hooked from day one, not saying the game was good then, but I liked it.
Also, about the end, i'll tell you why I prefer cyberpunk 2077 over the other options you mentioned.
Deus Ex: I want to play as my own character, not one pre-made. V isn't 100% mine but I get good customization with both the character creator and clothing (definitely helped by mods like equipment ex and cosmopolitan night city, allowing V to speak different language's while the other characters speak english)
Ghostrunner: Good game but it has way less content then cyberpunk + the problem I have with deus ex
Edgerunners: Its great but only has 10 episodes.
Tabletop: I personally don't really care for tabletop RPG's but even if I did, I don't have anyone to play with.
Definitely specific wants but cyberpunk 2077 more or less passes all of them mentioned. Which very few games do. Only others I like are Skyrim and Rimworld. There are definitely others that probably do that (like BG3) but if you don't want a top-down rpg, options are very limited.
About character customization, I cant tell you the amount of time I have spent just making outfits for V, or creating V's. The mod "Equipment EX" makes it far better then the base game, I know I cant credit CDPR for the mods themselves, but I can credit them for keeping the game open enough to mod it. back to character creation, There's also multiple body type mods. If I'm making a more ninja-like V, I can use a slim body. or if I want muscular V, there are options for that to, some of the body mods actually automatically fits clothing properly (including modded clothes without needing a patch) so there'ss minimal clipping. Best part is that there's options for both Masc V and Fem V, which as embarrassed as I am to say this.. its rare for Masc characters to get body mods in other games.... for reasons....
I think the reason why I like Cyberpunk 2077 is its basically the Skyrim of the cyberpunk genre. Buggy, wonky gameplay, not the best game ever, but fun to mess around in and has a ton of mods. I shouldn't like the game, the flaws are sticking on to the game like a tumor, but I do anyways.
I never really got hyped for the game until about a month before release, so I think that helped me just see it for what it was, and not what it was meant to be. Also mods add in some of the smaller things back like wall hanging and the metro (before it was added in an update)
I don't think we should forget the past, I forgive CDPR but I wont forget. The launch Is a permanent stain on an otherwise great catalog of games. Even though I don't believe in moral buying, I definitely understand why some do so, and I don't blame someone for skipping this game because of the horrid crunch the dev's went through. I think the dev's (including higher-ups) realized it was a huge problem. According to the Phantom Liberty director, there was little to no crunch when making the DLC. Of course he's the director so its not 100% reliable info but lower level staff did back up what he said. I hope the right lessons were learned with 2077's launch and they can do better in the future.
source: www.ign.com/articles/phantom-liberty-director-insists-cd-projekt-has-moved-away-from-crunch
Well, i admit that CDPR did not good move with old console platform, overwhelming advertisming and some missing features. But i got a game that i expected and for me it's one of the best games i ever played, it has a soul not like f.e. Ubi games. I have 380+ hours, readed all shards, founded all secrets, played all quests and still don't have enough, just a love that game... sometimes i just go to Night city and drive with good music in the radio.
And i don't know where people found these bugs, from day one (PS5) i have only few little bugs, nothing extra. I'm just lucky man in the games, others have tons of bugs i have none :D
9/10 No regrets
Glad you got a game you enjoyed.
Killer vid on one of my personal favorite games, glaring flaws and all. The section on the games development was eye opening, great stuff, unionize games development and journalism.
Glad you got a kick out of it. Yeah games journalism is a hard one to solve as even with more mainstream news work it's not as segregated as gaming news. Like when you read the paper it'll have current affiairs global news sport whatever. Games journal segration and niche nature means they have to rely on sponsorship mainly from game companies to remain afloat. The only other potential means of funding would be fans maybe. But then that means very few of them could exist and budgets would be much lower. Who knows maybe the UA-cam era will stem that with more wholly independent reports but that has its own issue like having less checks and needing citation 🤔
This had me dying of laughter 😂
That's why we do it 🤣
It reminds me a lot of Blade Runner. I started playing this game for the first time ever 4 days ago. I've put in about 12 hours per day so far and I'm grinding sides quests/ hooked up with Panam. The game usually crashes towards the end of my day but I think that's from putting long term stress on my hardware. Besides this I haven't experienced any major bugs and the game runs smooth as butter. Probably the biggest and best looking game out there right now. I play on ultra settings with 4 year old hardware so the game is not very demanding.
Did you see they announced a new blade runner game? 2033 labyrinth
The biggest overall issue with the game imo is purely just. Polish.
More dynamic interactions. More sensible animations. Cleaned up UI. More responsive controls when it comes to movement and vehicles.
And yes bugs
Overall I enjoyed it enough to complete most side content in the game and I plan to do something similar once phantom liberty comes out.
Yeah I think at least another year in development and a bit more oversight it could have been a lot better.
Fantastic video! I thoroughly enjoyed Cyberpunk for the story, the characters and the freedom you have in approaching missions, but you’ve hit the nail on the head with every criticism of the game and CDPR.
There’s irony to the fact that corporate fucked up a dystopian story about a capitalist hellscape where the corpos are the bad guys.
There is indeed. To the point its almost funny.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it dude.
I have a confession. I love Cyberpunk 2077 game. Does that already make me a bigot? Shieett..
Nah man. Like the source material is very pro lgbt+ it's just the shit running the social media account that was a bigot.
I saw the bad ending first and was like wtf haha
I like it alot. Felt like it fit the game the most.
The real sad part of it is if you don't buy the game, the people who worked hard for those crunch time hours won't get paid and may even lose or lost their jobs so it's more like a catch 22 situation.
Yeah that's the thing about boycotting games. The Devs get the worst part of the deal and the executives who make the terrible decision just get to go on working.
Not to say your criticism isn't valid, but there's some points where I'd personally disagree.
First of all, imo it's not that hard to classify it, but neither is it really necessary. It's an open world first-person action rpg, but of course has its unique spin on it. In fact, it's conceptually just like the witcher in most ways, just in a different setting, with different weapons and with first person camera (and obviously less side content and less choices with visible consequences, but then again nothing else comes close to the witcher 3 in that regard anyway). It also has a looter-shooter feeling to it, but that's not really a genre, just a set of mechanics/way of progression that can in theory exist in many genres (which in cyberpunk is quite optional given crafting is a perfectly viable alternative). But regardless, it doesn't have to fit any existing categories, I'd argue that the format exists as a result of trying to provide a certain vision or experience, rather than directing that experience through the spectrum of an established format, both can be valid approaches.
About side content - personally I'd always appreciate more side content simply because it makes the game world feel more alive and complete, however given limited resources, development time etc. I'd give them the lowest possible priority. Most side content in games like GTA is skipped by majority of players (or played once, deemed boring and never attempted again, which is what happened to me), I still like the fact that those options are there, but really - once you finish GTA and all its side quests, there's nothing meaningful to do either (for most players). Yakuza on the other hand, really relies on those minigames, they're given a great focus and are an integral part of what makes the game so memorable - their silliness contrasts with the often dark and serious main story. The game is also mechanically simple enough to allow greater focus on those minigames. Also a nitpick - the roach race arcade game in cyberpunk isn't just in 1 missable location - it's actually all over the place, including in some of your purchasable apartments, I encountered it probably at least 20 times myself (not to say that it makes it good or anything though). I'd love to see stuff like spontaneous street races I can join, more city events like major gang wars or large shootouts between cyberpsychos and maxtac, there's some stuff out there but ofc there could always be more.
About traveling - hard disagree for me, I love traveling around the city, appreciating the views, occasionally stopping for some world events. In fact, I never end up fast as a result. At first I really hated the handling of most vehicles and I still think it could use some work, but once you get used to it, it's really not that bad and it allows you to do some really cool stuff like drift every corner and do akira bike slides. Only the very fastest cars I'd deem absolutely uncontrollable, everything else, while sliding around a lot, is manageable with a little effort and can be quite fun once you get there. I agree that navigation could have been better but personally I don't rly care since I just love driving around, figuring out my own routes, memorizing spots and how to get there efficiently etc. Not everyone's cup of cake though ofc.
The problem with using real licensed music is that it'd cost much more and what's worse - licenses would expire and music would have to be removed from the game in the future - this is the case with every single game that uses real life music. If you try to play old gta titles, you'll notice half of the radio tracks are just gone, along with half of the atmosphere the game used to have. Not that I wouldn't like more memorable tracks in the game, just saying it would have come with its own share of issues. Also, the model they went for helped promote some less known artists too which is great.
About builds - I have to disagree too. The fact that you can try multiple viable playstyles without hard-speccing into them is a good thing imo. The build system is not ideal, but it's really not that bad. Enemies feeling like sponges is largely dependent on your build too, you can use some real hand-cannon guns that 1-shot everything, in fact most non-automatic handguns are very powerful even without min-maxing. If you spec your character right for your playstyle, you can really have crazy fun. Same with stealth - it's ok on it's own but if you spec heavily into it and get matching cybernetics, you can do some crazy satisfying stealth parkour shit or pretty much walk through the crowd of enemies and kill them all before they realize you're there, check out some youtube videos of people doing it, it can be really fun. Smart weapons are some of the weakest in the game, specifically because they aim for you, necessitating balance. I'd argue that using smart guns is the least fun way to play (for me), and would recommend a sandevistan power handgun build, berserk lmg+shotgun+melee build or stealth+netrunner build.
I don't think ridiculous quests ruin immersion, it's quite literally the same thing that yakuza does, which you praised for its side content quality. In fact, it's kind of the whole point of night city, it's dark, depressing, life is shitty and yet people keep flocking to it. You have people starving next to billboards advertising some latest kitch garbage, tv's playing shows justifying police brutality. The whole world is full of those contrasts, that's what makes it stand out, you see the elites having fun and dealing with some idiotic issues like dick cyberware malfunctioning while the low blow their brains out because of their traumatic experiences, this isn't an omission, it's fully intended.
Also, cops do stop you when you kill pedestrians, if you kill any you get an instant wanted level. Taking a gun out in public is normal in night city, if you do so in certain locations though, gangs etc. can turn hostile. There are kids on streets, it's just not common (not that any parents would let their kids play outside in such city). And about the launch fiasco and performance issues - no comment needed there of course, I'm writing from the perspective of how the game is right now (since the video itself is recent).
Thanks for the comment man. Like you said all my stuff is personal stuff. I just felt like no one else was mentioning it and I'll agree most of it was subjective but it would have been nice to hear about them before I bought. If you disagree I totally understand. Hope you enjoyed the video regardless.
I'm all for an unbiased review, but 17:34 onwards have nothing to do with answering your title. It would be a nice part of a review if you're talking about the launch state though. Kind of went off the rails there.
Thanks for the comment
I'm thinking of picking this game up soon but I'm hearing the story is way too short and there's no replay value to the game play main missions or side missions is this true
the main story can be a little short. The rub is alot of the optional side quest are interweaved with it like for instance one character has a whole ending associated with them but I'm pretty sure it's only available if you engae with her whole quest line so that can beef up the run time a bit. For this review I played through all the major characters side stories and clocked maybe about 26 hours and that was more or less critical path all the majpr side characters quest lines and a handful of inconsequentially side quest just for fun. My first playthrough learning all the ropes and trying to do everything clocked in around th 60ish hours. replay value I wouldn't say is major. At most it changes a few different dialogue options based on the starting path and you can maybe open optional paths depending on your build but I wouldn't say anything as significant as the likes of a alpha protocol or something like that. Hope this helped
@@Kevstreehouse awesome thanks 👍
As someone who is studying computer science and wants to do game development but also loves cyberpunk, it truly is disheartening to see what was happening behind the scene. As much as I want to encourage the development of games like cyberpunk, i would be dumber than anyone to overlook the humanitarian aspect of it all. It's really does outline how bad the industry is and sometimes discourages me from even being a game developer, but I guess sometimes you do have to be the change you want to see in the world. I could always be an indie dev, but that's easier said than done.
btw seeing the trans support in the video was really nice. While im not trans myself, im very close with those who are, so it's good to seeing more and more support, especially in the gaming community.
This is one of the few comments I've gotten on this video which hasn't been hate filled fan boy garbage so thanks for that man. Also don't let the current state of the games industry scare you away from the industry. Maybe just be cognisant of the issues and call them out when you can
You know that crunch in game is not a novelty its as ancient as the game industry itself. Actualy its as ancient as art in general (Michelangelo die because of overworking). When games will become industrial like making socks there will be no more crunch and the games will looks and feel as boring as socks...The same coukd be said for movies most of the greatest movie went through hellish production time. Nothing great has and will ever be done easely, you have to fight for it, give it your all.
What makes me sad about the game is learning that in trying to include Old Gen players, they shot themselves in the foot in the process. The time taken into the old generation game could of been placed into the other aspects in the game that was showcased
it's weird cause like now plenty of companies will release the current gen version and have previous gen versions later. Give them time to recoup costs and make a little money and frees up resources to actually focus on optimizing games for those platforms. I know it's not ideal but from a development standpoint it seems like the best case scenario to me.
Yesssss it is!!
Thanks for the comment
As good as some people think this game is (and I personally don't) I find that Deus Ex so clearly did almost every element of Cyberpunk 2077 already and in a much better way. Like, not even that I just prefer it, it was factually better by such an outstandingly huge margin. xD That was the most shocking thing I found when playing the game.
Couldn't agree more. Human revolution even has that slick gold look to everything that made it feel super unique and the use of the cyberpunk theme is so much stronger there. Plus the cyber ware system while good here is leaps better there.
@@Kevstreehouse Also, can't believe Jordan Peterson shat himself and then rubbed his own face in it afterwards. I'll tell my stepdad next time I catch him watching one of his videos 😂
@@TheRetroPerspective oh yeah him and auld Ben. Like theirs no shame in ibs but come on lads. Burying the truth behind radical statements you don't believe isn't the answer.
Gotta agree with the class thing. You don't get stater Berserk or Sandavistan, so unless you know what you are doing ie guides....well you will probably be fine on "Normal" but that don't fly on hard.
Exactly what I was going for when I suggested the class option. Obviously dark souls is different but you get an idea of what spread your stats should be and you start with equipment that you would have as a given class. Wizards have magic and wands, pyromancers have fire on their off hand etc. So how come you can't have a level one nano wire or more quick hacks if you're a net runner? It just seems silly to me. Plus it pays homage to the source material which did have classes.
the music makes it to the bad list. So, I start up a new play through and after I clear out a room full of Maelstrom, I walk into the room with the radio playing the music from episode 6 when Maine and David have their last conversation. So I gotta believe you think all the music from Edgerunners is bad since it's all the music from the game.
No I singled out Who's ready for tomorrow and I really want to stay at your house as good tracks its just the majority of them were completley forgetable in my opinion
Personally the soundtrack and radio stations (especially samurai) was one of the best parts
I getcha it is a very specific critique that probably only bother me 🤷♂️
it is
Thanks for the comment man
Cool video. For me, this game is uneven as hell. I do not know what to blame and what to reward for this state. What I know is that I bought the premiere with great gadgets and as a fan of cyberpunk and a Pole I have an interesting relationship with this game. Like with a family member who drinks and runs away from home, but who will do anything for you and shower you with gifts. Not to mention the crazy anime, with fkin Yamaoka, Dawid Podsiadło and Trigger Studio.
we have a big polish community here in Ireland and I used to work with a few poles in my last job and can I just say I have missed that sense of humor. Thank you for making my day with that hilarious comment 😄
I still want a Mirandith ending
I think she's wearing cement shoes dude.
Man i loved this game only if it was more this could have (had) longevity
Totally agree. As it stands it spent the first 2 years of its life trying to fix its own reputation
Cyberpunk at launch was agreeably a disaster. I pre-ordered the game on PC and couldn't play more than 4 hours of it. After getting into other cyberpunk genre games like Ghostrunner and Turbo Overkill I was still feeling that itch for Cyberpunk.
After the anime Edgerunners and the 1.51 patch for Cyberpunk i decided to give it another go. Since then I've been hooked on the game. Now with 4 hundred hours and multiple playthroughs i still find myself loving the game. I especially love the feeling of strolling Night City and the combat of the game. But i do still admit that the game feels shallow in some areas. Mainly the classes not being as vital to one's character as i was hoping, some ways on engaging combat feel very underpowered whilst some feel too overpowered and many other things.
I've taken the liberty of modding the game and i can confidently say that my current modded version is the only one that I'd play anymore. I'm really hoping that CDPR address some of the issues in the DLC. Mainly some combat aspects like enemies feeling too spongy and melee combat feeling a bit off. And of course vehicle combat and police chases. And maybe some attribute balances and perks in some skill trees being changed.
I never knew how much i loved the Cyberpunk genre and i most definitely need to try some of the Deus Ex games and other ones too. Really hoping that CDPR aren't done with Mike Pondsmith's TTRPG cyberpunk genre and will perhaps some day make another Cyberpunk game. Tho this time without management pissing on the development team and crunching another half-baked game. Fantastic video "K-Dog" :)
Hey man thanks for all this and being so understanding. I will say if the game had launched in its post edgerunners state I think it be a much more favourable experience. I know a couple of the viewers commenting here are pc players so maybe drop the details of your mod so they can find it? Glad you found something great in the game. But come on. KDAWG AIN'T MY NAME!
What mods do you use? I’m curious to get a similar experience!
@@seanomalley856 I'm currently running many mods, some of the more notable ones are:
Always First Equip
Arasaka Cyberarms
Custom Quickslots
2018 EU HUD
Guaranteed Dismemberment
Immersive Rippers
Large Blood Splatters
More Blood
More Gore
Better Fast Travel Map
More Eddies Found Lying Around
Skillful
System-Ex
Simple Untrack Quest
PLS Rebalanced
Simple XP Multiplier
There are many mods that'll make your Cyberpunk experience unique and i'm still constantly looking for more mods to improve my experience.
@@zakk3le598 thank you so much! I really appreciate the help and your list of mods. I am familiar with some of these but a lot of the quality of life mods seems so helpful! Do you use nexus mods? Also what are your thoughts on the cyberpsychosis mod?
@@seanomalley856 I do use Nexus mods. I don't use Vortex and download everything manually.
I think the Edgerunner Cyberpsychosis mod actually looks very good. Even tho canonically V isn't the type to get cyberpsychosis the mod can let you play a different version and see the world through a cyberpsychos eyes. I don't personally plan on playing with it, but it does look very well made and very cool on what it sets out to do.
Some mods that peaked my interest and might pick up soon for another playthrough of the game:
Lifepath Bonuses and Gang-Corp Traits
Street Vendors
Level Scaling and Balance
AI Netrunners Enchanced
Silent Silencers and Throwing Knives
Vehicle Combat
Sensible Stamina and Athletics
Realistic Combat Overhaul
And so many other more. It sometimes feels exhausting trying to find all the mods that you want.
Generally a good review, but some things you, in my opinion, missed or got wrong:
- the minigame can be played at several places, basically almost everywhere where arcades are, even in one of the apartments you can buy
- the tone shifts were probably on purpose, because the world and NC in specific treats themes like death, human trafficing etc very casually and also is very over-sexualized, so those tone shifts actually added to the world building for me
- "why come there be so few people in the city or no kids at all for that matter?"
There is an option in the settings called "crowd density", if you set that to high, there are a lot more people in the city, depending on the location of course, some places are more crowded than others. Not sure if this setting exists on consoles, at least on PC, it increases CPU usage, so it's definitely a technical limitation on consoles. Regarding kids - sorry, don't get it, I regularly saw kids in the city
Yeah my critques are very individual. Hope you enjoyed the video though
@@Kevstreehouse sure, still enjoyed it!
No other game I can recall made ma so conflicted.
There is the good but for each good part there is a bad counter part.
With 1.61 on current gen console it is less ugly though (I bought a game around 1.3 half price, played a bit, and put it on shelf). There are still bugs and glitches but nothing so far that will be game (or mission breaking).
It made me feel so conflicted I had to make a half hour long rant about it.
Game was not an rpg it was just a decent action game.
Decent probably the most accurate description
@@Kevstreehouse awesome video. Love your stuff.
@@vintageoriginallegit thanks man. Glad you got a kick out of it 😁
Bruh I gotta disagree with half of the bad. Identity crisis agreed. Lack of mini games agreed, although you stated it was in one location when it’s in hundreds but whatever. Travel is ok to me but the complaint about music is utterly stupid that is one of the games highest praises, so most people disagree. Fluid class systems are apart of big rpgs and have been for at least a decade. V is an instant master, agreed. Points don’t offer as much as new Vegas true but it’s new Vegas but they’re solid bypasses for levels and a few open up new options, yes not as good as new Vegas but holy shit it’s new Vegas like no shit. Yes the guns aren’t the greatest it’s not a dedicated FPS shooter Fallout New Vegas (my favorite game of all time) has some of the worst shooting in a game period. Lol at the sponge enemies literally just build your class optimally and you’ll wipe the floor with anyone on any difficulty beginning of a game of course you won’t, you ran up to a dude with guts and barely did damage my guy you haven’t invested a thing into annihilation then. Bosses are the worst agreed. You’re mad melee is optimal… I guess you can be mad about that if you want. Lol plenty of guns feel like guns the only difference with guts is that it moves you backwards when you shoot so… idk what you want there. Lol wild tone shift? Bitch it’s an open world there’s going to be heavy quests, funny quests and depressing quests, sounds a lot like new Vegas but it’s not an issue there for some reason, also it ruins the immersion? Like what life isn’t one emotion, maybe yours is but the rest of us aren’t synths. Yes CDPR under delivered agreed. There’s a ton of kids in the game, cops do come after albeit in a dogshit manner that could be better. Gun in public hey it’s night city also no one gives af in literally almost every other game and no npcs? Really? Dude I’ve never seen a more crowded city in gaming. Can’t date enough people, I mean yeah I guess but I’ve never really cared about that so yeah agreed. Glitches… yep completely warranted criticism.
So you game bad section is only half right lol.
Liberal Bitch lol
can't tell if you're unironically calling me a liberal bitch or referencing my own joke 🤨
@@Kevstreehouse 100% reference
@@Beer101 tight 😎
Don't quote me on this. But I'm sure I saw SOMEWHERE that CDPR MAY make Cyberpunk open source, what I do know is that they're making modding more accessible.
I personally think it's worth it, the only reason that it was bad was because of tyrannical deadlines. The people who worked on it poured their heart and soul into the game. I enjoyed it even at launch.
But that's my opinion.
I'd agree with that.
meh review, reason it is, "Is it worth your time in 2023?" you sir did not answer that question. You gave a great history of the game from develepement to the initial launch year which I agree it was a fucking train wreck. Nothing about if they fix the bugs, patch that fix more bugs, patches for stuff that was added to the game or any stuff take out. how does the game play in the year 2023, is it worth buying the game now in 2023 or wait till 2077(see what I did there). Would you buy the game if it on sale, and at what price.(me I say on sale for $25 I will buy it). You just stated what most people know and what happen during launch, nothing about it being worth your time in the year 2023.
Probably shouldn't have commented now UA-cam is going to promote this subpar review even more
Looks awesome to me
that's fair. Again it's not a bad game but at launch and with all they promised it's a bit of a let down. If you like the look of it I'd say give it a go
Your telling me in a world as big as Night City. We Cant have Serious Mission and Silly Missions in the same world. Most of the Silly Missions are not even labeled. Where you are guided to the Serious one. I didn't even encounter Flaming Crouch Man until way later. Its like saying that in GTA you shouldn't be about Pick up a Hooker , Beat her up and take your money back. Because "THIS IS A SERIOUS GAME". There already a lot of Silly stuff that not even gameplay. Like The Advertising and Live TV Adverts. I Really don't have problem with it. Its not a Batman Game.
Hey sorry I'm late
You are never late you arrive exactly when you need to.
I just picked this game up today for only $24 ….I have the PS5 version. I hear a lot of good things about the game and I hope they are true…still a good deal even I go it’s not as great as they say
I'd say the 20 price is kinda the perfect pice point to try before you buy. Ps5 version was what I played here and in my experience was the most stable version of the game aside from pc.
On the RPG part late marketing dropped this part. This of course does not justify the game and its skill point and talent trees.
While I do not thing classes are needed, it would be enough if the skills mattered a lot more. The problem is they do not, not to mention some of the skills seems to be even more useless than the others.
As it was not really explained in a good way I went with intelligence (net runner) plus technical. And honesty technical is not that appealing to me with loot everywhere. But this means I’m underpowered in my body and reflexes (both level 5). I do not feel like this matters at all. I would imagine that due to poor reflexes I should be worse in gun and any blade weapon handling and with less strength it should lock me out of certain things. For example there is some cyberware which require particular level for a skill but gorrila fists no, If V has the money you can buy them use them getting +4 to body.
I would imagine that a net runner will not be able to complete the boxing matches and it should be a different build, I imagine that a stealth V would have advantage in missions requiring stealth but without this skills it would be very hard to impossible to fulfill being stealthy.
After I’m some with my 1st play through (currently doing chores - I mean contracts that just feel like open world filler) I will do another one when I will invest (still in netrunning) but different set of skills and just go through the story to check if it changes the gameplay but I doubt it.
There is too many things that are just half baked, and I do not like the looting system but this is subject for separate discussion/rant.
I'll admit classes were entirely something I alone wanted. though I thought i be a nice touch as there are a few other games based on table top rpgs that just bring class mechanics to the video game adaption and I always appreciate the translation of pen and paper mechanics to game mechanics. Again thats just me and completely see why it might not be an area they wanted to focus on
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Glad you liked it 😁
@Kev's Treehouse
It was an amazing video, well made
Is Cyberpunk an RPG nope, is it an Open World Game nope, Cyberpunk is more of an Action Game with slight elements of the above.
Just kinda wish someone told the Dev team that so they knew where the priorities were.
Didnt watch the video, but the answer is yes.
But you did leave a comment which helps the video out 😁
Sorry mate your content is about as deep as your personality. My opinion.. but definitely not your forte
Thank for comennting. It really helps the channel and brings more eyes to the video.
CDPR downfall was the most predictable and laughable matter. Their writing in Blood and Wine was CW level of bad and their cult of personality single handendly rivals actual Mega Churches in their delusions. So the news of Cyberpunk 2077, game which by the title alone feels like corpo gentrification of genre (which is also proven by how game writers cut all actual fun and unique aspects of TTRPG while turning Yellow Peril to eleven, which beats most of 80s cyberpunk stories, where such fears at least made lick of sense), being shit was my pleasant surprise for my ego and yet even I was shocked by level of stupid and that even Investors feel justified in their law suit .
Now that you mention that yellow peril aspect completely flew over my head but now that I think about it the more I see what you mean 😅
Yes, it is
Thanks for the comment
you critique all the wrong things really, so not on point
How dare I not enjoy the things you did.
@@Kevstreehouse lol, you just highlighted unimportant stuff, and haven’t talked about most pressing issues. Probably because you not a good reviewer.
@@Kevstreehouse and you want to hear only good stuff about your video? You don't want any critisicm? I can just delete my comments if you want. I really don't care and there is no goal to offend you.
@@juliam8252 you literally just said I was a bad reviewer. I can't see how you weren't trying to be offensive. I've also kept a lot of comments on this video that were negative towards the video. As for the stuff I critiqued I did gameplay, story, music, user experience and design. I'm curious as to what I was supposed to critique? I really don't care what you do but you commented on the video 3 times so I appreciate you helping the vid reach more people 😃
I completely disagree with u on almost everything u said lol rhe writing and the combat is better than any other open world game in recent memory man.. ur criticisms r kinda baffling.. when compared to other open world games, where will u find better combat n writing? I mean sure the game isn’t perfect, but man ur reaching for some of these criticisms
Fair enough to each their own.
@@Kevstreehouse appreciate the video none the less, I just think maybe u didn’t give the game a fair shot .. but if u did and u still feel this way that’s fine too
@@SayMy_User_Name well I played through it twice and have logged about 80 hours in so I think I did. Writing I thought was good in the more fleshed out parts it's just widely inconsistent in alot of the optional content and the moment to moment gameplay never felt right. Again if you dug it cool but I feel the narrative around the games quality never really mentions alot of the issues I found. 🤷♂️
@@Kevstreehouse Except that your criticisms are way off base. For instance in the RPG Segment you go off about classes, when the Cyberpunk system offers you way way way more choice in how you build out your character, especially when the Cyberware is factored in. I have played through multiple times with wildly differing builds that radically shifted game play. In Mass Effect(my favorite trilogy of games), there are only two classes that do this, Vanguard and Infiltrator(and honestly Infiltrator is fairly similar to the Soldier class), all of the other classes are variations on sit behind cover and cast you abilities. This is just a single example, pretty much everything you said after a certain point, was a mess of contradictory statements, and surface level criticisms. 80 hours in 2 play-throughs, tells me you barely scratched the surface of this game. My typical play through lasts 70-80 hours on its own, and even in those I didn't do everything that can be done.
@@stephendoe7594 again to each his own. If a game takes 100 hours to get good I'd say that's a failing on the games design not mine the players. Cause if you ask me that's not a good experience that's Stockholm syndrome. Plus in my intial playthrough I did do all the major story and side quest. The only thing I ignored was the side gigs so unless they drastically change the game can't say I'd take back what I say. Again if you like the game cool. I enjoyed the writing for the most part just felt like the game needed more time in development and bad business killed it 🤷♂️
6:39. You can stop right there. That woke shout out just killed my interest in your video. Generalize. Don't suck up. Holy hell, man. I hate people like that.
Thanks for the engagement it really helps the video.
It never wasn't.
Double negative so it isn't? 🤷♂️
@@Kevstreehouse Well if "it isn't" and "it never was" (worth the time) are the same then if it's double negative then shouldn't it be positive so "it always was"?
Diss JP, and I already know you're a misinformed individual. Immediately no.
Thanks for commenting man really helps the video
@@Kevstreehouse No problem, maybe take some time to take in some more JP content. Might help with that misinformed issue of yours.
Good luck with your videos.
@@leondelafonte thanks for commenting man. Really helps the video.
Play without the HUD holding your damn hand and the world becomes a lot more than just quests to go complete and feels waaaaaay more natural and alive. Also if you only sunk in around 80 hours, good chance you missed quite a bit unless you were playing on easy and just mowed through the game. I'm on my 3rd playthrough and so far have had a different experience every time. Also, why would the main character stop to play mini games at all when they are actively dying?
As far as I can tell I played through all the side gigs in the game, I kept the map on cause the city design never felt like it made any sense and I didn't play any more than the 80 hours I did cause I have a life and very little time to play games. As for mini games they're a design aspect that breakups mission structures and employed in literally every open world game ever so it seems weird to not have them. Also v is only dying when the story dictates it. By the same logic why would v take optional side gigs or do jobs for random strangers when he's dying. Plus the game has waiting built into its design and you can already play guitar or smoke in your apartment so there is already a precedent for the game to go for the immersion that mini games provides. Again if you enjoy the game good on you but I don't think it's much more than an okay experience from a technical and design point of view. 🤷♂️
@@Kevstreehouse There's a lot of quests that aren't put anywhere in the journal, so cant really go off the I checked all the items off my list to determine if you actually took it all in, a good majority of missions have different outcomes depending on how they are handled, different characters can either live or die, and effect the game later on, it just isnt thrown at you in the aspect you may be ecpecting it to. The design of the city doesnt make sense at first, but once you learn it, you understand why it is set up the way it is. Gotta remember it takes time to learn a city of this scope as well, doubt most people in life could move to a new city and have it down in 80 hours, just food for thought. I recommend giving it another go, because I tried to go back to The Witcher 3 after my first playthrough, and I could not stick to it, or become immersed like I could the last couple of times. The NPC's in TW3 may as well be additional Notice boards, they live in the world, but the player does not. The entire world seems to revolve around Geralt, where as V just lives in Night City, and nothing more, which sucks me right back in. And so far, aside from a couple of conversations I havent had any repeating dialogues, there's differences for almost everything, and at least 3 outcomes or results based on choice actions or dialogue you did or chose. Where as the TW3 it's just just a negative or positive result, very rarely does a middle ground or third option present itself. There's a reason the main questline can be completed in 4 hours it's meant to be played a few times. If you decide to give it another go and you are on PC, I recommend using, these mods to imporove the experience and remain faithful to the lore. DJ Korviiks Limited HUD Mod, 2018 Spicys E3 Hud Mod, Time Dialation Overhaul, Street Style (Makes your clothing choices matter to NPC's and gives some bonuses),, Better Throwing Knives, Lifepath Bonuses, Gangs of Night City, Enhanced Craft, Proper Level Scaling, System EX, Ripperdeck, Wannabe Edgerunner (Implents a stat to induce cyberpsychosis on the player causing them visual glitches, damage, weapon change, and accidental killing of NPCs and 3 star wanted level, must take neuroblockers or go to apartment and sleep to get rid of the glitches) , Immersive 1st person, immersive bartenderr, driving and Vic, Few others im prolly forgertting but oh weeell.
@@HvNzSoul I have checked the quest lists on wikis and I have seen all of them aside from the fixer gigs I have done them all. Also I have played the game twice. And as I said in the video there are quest I genuinely love it's just that there are more throw away nothing experiences in my opinion. What's good is some of the best stuff I've seen but the inconsistency is so bad in those throw away quest. Again I have played 80 hours. If a game needs more time to convince that's a failing on the games end. I gave it more than a fair chance. I don't like this game. If you do great but please stop trying to convince me there was something I missed. Cause what I missed I can honestly say I don't care. I don't like the game. If you do great glad you love it enough to suggest it but I'd ask that you respect my decision to not like it and move on. And its not even that I hate the game I just want it to be better for everyone and let people know it has its shortcoming. So again please stop trying to tell me I'm wrong about my experience cause its my experience.