Toro CCR 2450 - How to Clean Carburetor
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2019
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In today's video, we look at a 2 stroke Toro CCR2450 Single Stage Snowblower.
The issue my customer described was that the carburetor leaked fuel.
This is generally caused by a leaky needle valve.
Service Manual: www.toro.com/en/parts/partdet...
Parts: www.ereplacementparts.com/tor...
I show you how to remove the carburetor, disassemble it & properly clean it!
We also replace the fuel line, as well as the fuel filter.
Once everything is back together, I cut off a frayed piece of the pull start cable.
I then mix up some fresh 50:1 fuel & fire it up!
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Never knew they made Carburetor's out of the plastics. Unbelievable.
Professional vid. Thx for the upload.
Yeah most of the old Lawn Boy 2 strokes had them, and some of the newer Briggs & Stratton carbs also use plastic carbs.
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Hello, I did everything you said. I went and got fresh gas. Clean carburetor again. Put it all back together. It started right away. But when I shut it off . It would not start back up. I not if Auto Zone gave me the right spark plug. My original one was BPMR4A, they gave me BPMR10A. They told me it would work. I set the spark plug gap to .030 . I am about to buy a new carburetor
That is the wrong spark plug, try these; www.sparkplug-crossreference.com/convert/NGK_PN/BPMR4A
@@EliminatorPerformance So you don’t think it’s the carburetor
For less than $10 (carb cleaner and spark plug) and about an hour of patience, I managed to fix my first snowblower. Thank you for such a well-made video.
Thanks for watching JLK, glad I was able to help!
Clear, concise, right to the point on all of the issues, great camera work and spot on with all you did.. excellent video
Thanks for watching!
Thank you!!! My Toro was running for a couple minutes than dying from fuel starvation so I suspected the float bowl and inlet were gummed up. But when I tilted the snowblower on its front and took the float bowl off, the hinge pin holding the float in place slipped out, and everything (float, hinge pin, needle pin and that tiny needle pin spring) fell out and scattered both in the nooks and crannies of the snowblower and also on my garage flow. Crap!!! I eventually found everything, cleaned it all up with carburetor cleaner, but then I spent hours trying to figure out how that little spring was supposed to go (I'd try it a certain way, reassemble everything only to find the thing wouldn't start at all). Eventually I got it to where it would run for 30 seconds (which was worse than it was when I went to fix it).
Then I came across your well-made video and in particular, the shot at 3:57 showed me how the spring was supposed to go. I had been running the spring through that circular hole in the float hinge tab. Went out today after seeing your video, reassembled it correctly and now it's running perfect. Again, THANK YOU!!!
This is one of the MOST informative, to the point videos for conducting this process. Nicely done. Thank you.
Thank you! I followed your instructions completely and my blower started before I could completely pull the string back! You saved me a good piece of change in repairs, did I mention that I am not mechanically inclined at all. LOL!
This is an excellent video! Perfect speaking, absolutely clear and concise and orderly. All is done in logical order coming apart and back together, plus very good tips gained from experience. This is a perfect training video!
Thanks for watching!
When i seen you put the 3:1 oil on the needle and seat made me remember my grandfarher doing that on carbs. Well only ever seen him rebuild 2 lol.
Great video! Thanks for the tips and part numbers!
I have the same machine and it runs great after over 15 years, but it's nice to learn more about it , thank you sir
By the way, nice repair on the worn stem that sets the choke lever and holds it in position. Also liked the way you compared it to the spring on the other snowblower carb. Just another excellent video by Eliminator Performance with step by step easy to follow instructions.
This video is totally spot on! Great pace, focused on the carb.. not you.
Continue with quality videos like this and you'll be the King of repair videos!!!
Thanks for watching!
Nice descriptions. Well done
Clear. Concise. Appreciated. Nicely done and very helpful.
Great vid, I like how you covered all the details of carb rebuilding in perfect detail so anyone can follow it. I have a Toro 3000 GTS with the Suzuki 47 p 2 stoke and had to replace the Mikuni carb due to play the throttle shaft causing a vacuum leak (and surging).
Thanks for watching!
Good work! So many technical videos are tedious because they show you every screw being unscrewed, etc. You cut right to the the important stuff.
Really well done. Got
Mine running thanks to you. Hadn’t run in 9yrs. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Great video, well explained and documented! My first time cleaning a carburetor and it worked! Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
GREAT VIDEO !+, FAST, NO GAPS, WELL EDITED--PLEASE please teach others on UA-cam !!
Finally a video that gets straight to the point and helped me fix my toro. Bravo sir!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the tip about using the paint can opener. I was struggling to fit the bulb on the base for about 30 minutes,( after it was left in hot water), and I couldn't get it to work. I tried your tip, and in less than 5 minutes, the bulb was on!
Hey there. I’m a small engine guy outside of Chicago, Illinois USA. I enjoy your videos, good information retales to what I do. Thanks aye
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your excellent video; I’m just a diy homeowner but was able to successfully perform the work on my 2003 model CCR-2450 Toro; I cleaned the carb, replaced the spark plug, and replaced the primer bulb all by myself. Only thing different is I replaced the OEM Toro primer bulb with a Briggs & Stratton part 394281S; instead of those white clips, it has a threaded tube that goes through the back of that metal plate and can be secured with a 1/4-10 flange nut. All is well and machine runs perfect now.
Great to hear you're up and running again, thanks for watching!
One of the best detail video on Tube two thumps up👍👍
Video with parts number wow I was taking photos while I was watching awesome thank you so much 🙏
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Outstanding vid!! Thanks for covering the details so thoroughly-Cheers!!
Thanks for watching!
Awesome video! Great job! Keep it up!
Thanks a lot!
Many blessings!
Thanks for watching!
Great video very informative you’re a very good teacher
I have a Toro 38600, which is almost identical to this one and I just went through cleaning the carb yesterday. The plastic carburetor really left me shaking my head, but, this little machine works great. So, why criticize it if it works? The engine usually starts on the first pull even after sitting all summer. It runs just fine and although it often isn't man enough to handle the hard frozen plug at the end of the drive, 90 percent of the time it's a better choice than the big heavy awkward two-stage blowers. I usually have the driveway all cleared with this little machine while the neighbors are trying to wrestle their big blowers out of the garage to begin their workout trying to start a much larger, harder to start engine, with a pull rope. I got this thing for free, but have to say, it's worth taking care of. Great little thing!
My problem is that the rubber primer bulb keeps corroding. I have the tools and the knowledge to replace it, but it is a pain to disassemble things to access it. I am also a videographer, with a YT Channel, so I made sure to add a 👍 as well as this comment.
I changed my primer bulb it was pretty easy
@@anguslean4058 Agreed. I've done it rwice so far. The bulb replacement is straight forward. The unscrewing of the outer housing is the pain (not just the black front panel).
@@chrislauterbach8856 I did it when I tuned it up
Also a new carb is about 15 bucks
So any problems I just replace the whole carb
I also put on a new drive belt and replaced the rubber paddles
Oh and I replaced the plastic scrapper on the bottom
This toro is 22 years old and is still going strong.
Great work
Awesome work EP♥
Thanks for watching!
VERY thorough video! Very impressive. 👍 Thanks Brother!
Thanks for watching!
Nice video and great narration - you rock
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
Thanks for your help!
Best camera detailed carb .cleaning video on ytube
great video, thank you im a beginner to all of this. you were nice thorough!!
Thanks for watching!
Great video bro! 👍🏼👍🏼 Thank you
Great helpful solution to where the hose from the primer goes. Saved me much frustration looking for an online tip.
Thanks for watching, glad it helped!
Nicely Done 👍
Very thorough.
That little fray near the handle can ruin your day big time. I bought my 3650 toro brand new in 1997, it was the very first snowblower I ever owned, i was 37 years old when a major artery to my heart became 99% blocked nearly killing me, it was that event that persuaded me to purchase my first ever snowblower, my local mower shop convinced me that a single stage machine was the way to go, I was so excited, fast forward a few years and we had a major snowstorm here in NJ, I opened my shed filled the toro with fuel, pressed the primer twice the recommended amount, grabbed the handle and the next thing I knew I was standing there with the handle in my hand attached to nothing, I froze for a brief second until my brain processed what had just happened, and then a ong string of obscenities followed. Here I was with almost two feet of snow on the ground and my snowblower wasn't going to fix itself and I couldn't get it out of my shed unless I shoveled a path 150 feet to my house where I could maybe get it down my cellar to work on it, I have no garage and the shed is a small plastic one, so I got my tools, knelt in the snow and literally dismantled the whole thing just to get to the starter assembly in the middle of a nor'easter, my hands were nearly frotbit, I ran inside to thaw out a bit once in a while, I worked on it for what seemed like days bout it was about two hours or more, I finally reunited the cord with the handle, put it all back together, by this time it was dark, I cleared my sidewalk, driveway and then went two blocks from my my house to my girlfriends house where her and her sister wondered what happened to me because I was supposed to be there hours ago. The moral of the story is, pay attention to the little things because in most cases they're the ones that will trip you up, if only I had seen that fray exactly like you showed that day would have gone like clockwork.
awesome video.
Thank you, excellent video and very helpful
Thanks for watching!
Had same issue, video was GREAT, ty
Finding where to hook the primer line took a while cause its kinda hidden but finally found it...lol
Thanks for watching!
Thank you, great ideas
Fabulous video 👍
Solid video. Nice job. I will pass this along.
Thanks for watching!
Great video, as usual. Only thing I would have done differently is pull the cord up through the handle and THEN cut it off. No need to thread the cord up through the handle. Of course it might have been frayed so much it wouldn’t pull through, but in that case I usually use a lighter to melt the fraying down enough to not snag. 👍🔧🧰 I particularly appreciate this video because I was just given my first blower of this design class and it’s the exact same model. Perfect for doing up on my back deck because of the rubber blades and narrow enough to go up my path around the side of the house. It’s a keeper! 😂👍🔧🧰❄️❄️❄️
Man thank you soo much for this video helped me diagnose my problem thank youuu
Thanks for watching!
Very well done. Thank you.
The high E string on a guitar works good for cleaning those small holes thanks for the video
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Nice video Thank you so much
Great video!
Thanks for the visit
Well done
Changed mine to brass but it ran well for 15 years. Just changed the paddles. Year 22 now. I run 100:1 Amsoil synthetic. Tried the fuel line trick to fix the choke from vibrating on. Got tired of messing with it and went brass carb.
Thanks for watching!
Are you nuts? This was the BEST VIDEO EVER thanks
Nice video
Great video just saw it !!!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Awesome tutorial! I watched the entire thing and appreciated it. But then I found several new carburetors on Amazon for $18, so it's not worth cleaning mine that is 18 years old.
Excellent
Love this video! Very informative. Feeling motivated & confident to clean the carb on my old CCR 2450 now. Btw, I noticed that Toro makes a fuel additive/ treatment. After cleaning the carb, do you recommend using something like that regularly to keep the carb clean?
Great video,,,I'm about to pull mine apart !😭
Great Job thanks
Thanks for watching!
You saved me a ton of money. I removed the carb and cleaned it out. Runs great. Thank you. I found my model 2450 does not have a screen over the input jets. Do you know the part # for that?
Should of cut shorter and used a wire Corrector that you heat, its called heat shrink over that plastic piece and then it would stay on and get the one that fits right, if you wire outdoor stuff like this, then best to use heat shrink tubes and own a kit with many sizes, great video on how to rebuild these cards, I have a GTS3000E Toro starring with 890 on serial number, model#38435 I think, can't go into my pictures to look, my choke don't work and it pulls out. It runs great. I add 1 ounce of fuel stabilizer to one gallon of gas and 50 to 1 oil for 1 gallon of gas and I use that on my weed wackers which is made by Husqvarna same with my backpack ball but my snowblower is a Toro and it's the best day ever little snowblower I've ever owned, every now and then, the Cobb freezes up from being very cold out and it getting wet so I must hit the long two and a half 3 in shaft going to the break the ice off of it. I do spray it down with PB Blaster silicone spray oil pretty much the same as WD-40 lightly, I mainly use it for the shoot but not usually have any issues with clogging. All my name is have issues with all their machines every year and I'm the only one that my machines are the same for year after year because I take care of them and I stopped them every month during the winter time in summer time in my garage, I have a two car garage but don't use as a parking garage because it's only 22 ft by 22 ft with barn style sliding does, so it's more like a workshop and it dark floor, during the winter time once I'm done snow blowing I turn on my kerosene / diesel heater 210000 BTUs and run it for about 15 minutes to dry the machine off and that's not even in front of the machine. My doors open halfway so you can breathe that's probably a hundred ten degrees in there and I'm standing outside pretty much and a t-shirt when it's 10 degrees out. I wait for it to dry off so i can get anything on it tighten up, its a 2 stroke, 2 stroke are known to loosen things up from time to time.
New subscriber. I’m not a mechanic by far but with videos like these you build up my confidence. I have a dead snowblower I’ve been trying to work on. I’m going to drain the old fuel out. I need to get to the small engine parts store to get carb cleaner, spark plug gap tool and fuel filter. Now I have an ultra sonic cleaner but only used it to clean coins I’ve found metal detecting. What is the purpleish pink cleaner you use in the ultra sonic cleaner? Thanks for the video.
It's called Indo701 and it's a concentrated degreaser, I buy it at FlexoProducts in Canada
Great vid. what solution did you use in your ultrasonic cleaner to clean the carbs?
do you have any videos for the toro ccr 2450 snow blower electric starter? I hear it running but not engaging. Also , when I pull the rope start, its not engaging
Do u no how to connect the linkage to the governor i can’t figure it out and there is no video
i have the same carb on mine #801054 when i unscrewed the seat there was a very thin gasket that fell apart the average guy wouldnt even know it was there could not locate another does not come with a new needle and seat put it back with out it?
Well, it's almost time to think about blowers again. I have a 2016 Toro 721RC. It has MAYBE 15 hours on it. I changed the plug last fall for fun. While I had the cover off, i noticed it had a fuel filter. Was gonna pick up one till i found out that they wanna sell you a $20 fuel line kit just to get the oem filter. Thought that was a bit much for a 3 year old machine at the time. I skipped it. Was wondering if there's a rule of thumb in hours or years that would be reasonable. Thanks
Nice to have parts in stock when doing snowblower service, do you find that Stens carries most of what you need to do repairs?
Mostly, but not everything!
Geat video learned something new.But does that idle jet not need to be adjusted when reinstalled?
No, that is known as a "fixed" pilot jet, you simply screw it in until it's in the seated position. Thanks for watching!
any one no what part the pannel that covers the choke lever is called?
3:30 Is that what it means if you walked in your garage & found that gasket laying on the floor? That the screws more than likely loosened up.
Great video. What do you load your ultrasonic with? I just so happen to have one. I assumed carb cleaner before I saw this video, but had concerns using it on a plastic carburetor.
Watch my video here; ua-cam.com/video/iFYS79_foAE/v-deo.html
@@EliminatorPerformance thanks! I don't think I can get the Indo cleaner here in the states without buying a 4L four pack from Flexo for $70 CA. Any suggestions for a substitute? I have mean green cleaner in the house on hand, and simple green is available in stores near me.
@@Naude716 any concentrated degreaser works good, just be sure it's non caustic and won't eat aluminum if left to sit too long. As I've said, the indo turns aluminum dark if I let them sit to long.
@@EliminatorPerformance sounds good! Thanks for all your help.
I purchased mine used. I also have a fuel shut off on mine and noticed if I don't shut off fuel valve there will be fuel standing in the air scoop and I will have a fuel leak around carb.Does that indicate the needle valve is worn? Great video.
Yes bad needle valve seal
What fluid are you using in your ultrasonic & his often do you change it out vs filtering it?
I'm now using Zep orange and I can do 3 carbs and swap it out I don't even bother filtering since it more than pays for itself
I have this same blower did everything you said starts up great but then after about 30 seconds it goes in to high ram and I can't get it to come down no matter what I do. Any help would be appreciated.
Your float could be set too high (when looking at the carb upside down), meaning the engine uses the fuel in the bowl before it lowers enough to refill the bowl. Higher rpm usually means an air leak, but if it's after 30 seconds it's probably because it's leaning out (not enough fuel). Good luck.
My Toro Ccr starts 1st pull, runs great as long you don't tilt it back. If you do it loads up and wants to stall, if I put it back down quick. It blows smoke for a second. Thoughts??
Probably leaking extra fuel and then if it chugs black smoke it's running rich. This is common on these units, although you could try taking the carb apart and making sure the float is set to the right height
@@EliminatorPerformance Thank you, it a 2 stroke but it does blow 2 stroke smoke before it clears up, I'll check the float level 👍
Do you the name and part number for that gauge you used to check the pressure on the carb?
Yes, it's a STENS 705-020, can be found on Amazon ebay, or STENS if you set up a business account. Thanks for watching!
I have this same snow blower and gave the carb a good cleaning but it keeps surging. Any ides what to check next?
1st off, check for air leaks between the gaskets in between carb and engine.
Air leak will cause hunting/surging. Some gasket maker will help seal things up a bit.
If that doesn't work, try enlarging the pilot jet.
The carb in the video isn't the same as yours, but the process is the same. The pilot jet should be on the side of your carb.
Here's a video on how to do that: ua-cam.com/video/Z6F38bSxSp4/v-deo.html
Hope this helps!
@@EliminatorPerformance Thanks for the quick reply. I didn't notice the pilot jet on the side since it was covered by a stupid sticker, just figured my model didn't have one. Took that out, cleaned it all up and she runs like a champ now. Thanks again.
Awesome, good to hear!
Good intel just need help with electric start
i have this exact blower, got it for free used used it last winter and it was a PITA to start always had to use quick start and pull 10000 times , so this year i took it apart and cleaned everything starts 1-2 pulls now every time, but revs to all high hell also after watching your video i realized who ever owned this before had lost the spring so i tried replacing it with metal wire and with and without the wire the thing still revs super high any ideas? thanks
is the governor linkage suppose to move easily back and forth?
Hi, i cleaned the carburetor, changed a new spark plug, put in new gasoline for the 4 cycle toro but it still wouldnt start. I also use the electric plug in and it wouldnt start. If i use electric im assuming the carburetor and the gas is not the issue so what could be an issue? Thanks
Maybe no spark? Hard to say.
Any thoughts on why my 2450 runs fine until I put a load on it and then stalls?
Thanks in advance!
Not pulling enough fuel through the main jet. The pilot jet is for idle, so you're idle circuit as they say is clear, but once there's load, the engine needs more fuel and the main jet is probably partially clogged. Or the float is set to the incorrect angle
@@EliminatorPerformance
Ok it had bad and really rich fuel in it too. I will run the canned 50:1 premo gas thru it w some Seafoam and see if that cleans it at all before diving in. Thank you!
Great video. I have this exact carb so I followed your instructions to take the carb apart, cleaned it and put it back together. I have used brand new gas with the correct mixture and also replaced the spark plug. However, the snowblower will still not start. I have double-checked all gaskets etc. to make sure there aren't any leaks. I did not change the inlet needle but wondering if that could be the issue. The carb is not leaking...it just won't start. I do not have a pressure gauge to to test like you did. Can you think of anything else I can try?
Check for spark, and buy yourself a can of carb cleaner to spray into the cylinder.
If you have spark, and the engine starts with carb cleaner, then it's the carb.
@@EliminatorPerformance Thanks for the quick response. So, dumb questions but how is it best to check for a spark? Also, I have a can of carb cleaner but is it best to remove the carb before spraying into the cylinder?
@@Michael-kz4is you can check spark by spraying carb cleaner into the carb while it's bolted to the engine, give the cord a pull and if it starts and dies out then it's a carb issue (not getting fuel)
If it doesn't start at all, probably a spark issue (not getting spark) then you remove spark plug, lay it against the engine while it's plugged into the spark plug wire, and when you pull the pull cord, it should spark the at the plug.
@@EliminatorPerformance I tried spraying carb cleaner into the carb while trying to start and it did not start. I removed the spark plug while plugged into the spark plug wire and I do not see a spark. I'm hoping this isn't something serious but not feeling good about that. When you have time can you send me ideas about what to try next.
@@Michael-kz4is it's probably a bad coil or points, you definitely have an electrical issue!
I did everything you said. I took the carburetor apart and clean it. But I did not buy new parts . I put it back together. It started right away. I let it run for a while. It ran good. But when I shut it off. It would not start again. I did not get fresh gas. Because I have a whole 2 gallon from last year. Would this be the problem
Yes, I always run fresh gas, there's really no point in cleaning a carb and then running old fuel because you can end up sucking up a piece of gunk. Spray it with some carb cleaner and if it fires, you know you have spark and compression. Then it isolates the carb as the issue.
I bought Gum fluid starter. Spray it before I taken the carburetor apart. It started right away. And did the same thing. I already replace the spark plug. But did not replace the float. I the whole carburetor apart and clean it with gum carburetor cleaner and used compressed air. So you just think it the gas.
How do you know when to replace the carburetor. And which one is the best from Amazon.
My snowblower have missing the governor wire and other plastic parts send me the link to find it thank you very nice job
Please Google Toro CCR 2450 parts diagram
How to start without key switch???
The keyswitch just grounds the coil, you can disconnect it, because it doesn't have an electric starter
38517ortant is the screen or is there a makeshift screen i could make. I can;t find it for the life of me. Dam!
For the main jet? You don't necessarily need it, just make sure you run an inline fuel filter!
great video, but these carburetors are terrible.
damn, this all seems like a lot of work. I think I'll just get an entirely new carb for $15. no offense to anyone that wants to make their original one work like new again, I just don't wanna do all this crap.
I don't blame you lol thanks for watching!
@@EliminatorPerformance you do a great job and this is a good video. I'm just too lazy. haha. although others are more lazy and would just buy a whole new snowblower. lol
When you take off those parts you shouldn't off your camera you should record every steps and every piece.
Once the primer air tube in the carb clogs it's a rap. Can you clean the tube? Yep. Will it clog again? In no time flat it will. It's a bad design. Primer is too far from the carb and the bulb has a hole in it. Sediment gets in, gets pumped into the compromised plastic air chamber and next thing you know the primer bulb is flat when you press it. Some carbs are worth cleaning. But not the ones like these that you can buy for $12.
those carburetors are pieces of shit. i worked on these a lot and they are garbage. no matter how clean you get them, they are still junk. some are good but most are not. those are the worst carburetors. cant believe toro used that crap.
Worst demonstrate ever seen.