Thanks for the review and vid on the action 4. Got my action 4 and am looking forward to shooting my MTB this up coming summer! Plus the skating wasn’t that bad🤘🏼🤘🏼🇨🇦🇨🇦. Have a rad day man, and great content.
This has got to be one of the best product ”testing” videos I’ve ever seen! Just amazing riding footage and the opening editing transitions are seamless. Sorry geeking out a bit. Awesome video!
Hadn’t seen your channel before. I am way past where I’d start mountain biking (I break too easily :-)), but I really enjoyed both the review and your riding. Subscribed.
Great review! Think I’m going to pick one up, my primary use is dh MTB as well. Honestly think I preferred the video without the nd filters. Didn’t seem to lose much detail in high light and felt much clearer in low. 🤘🏼
Nice! Yeah...I also prefer the footy without the ND filter. It does sometimes blow out when going from dark to light, but I would trade that for the crisper image.
Another feature that I really appreciated on the action 4 compared to the GoPro was that the wide angle distortion is minimized on the action 4. The perspectives of technical terrain is more real and life like on the action 4. On the GoPro, the distortion makes the terrain look weird, and not as big as it is in real life.
Yeah the magnet clip system has been super convenient probably the hallmark of the camera. I think for me even though the OA3 was not quite there on the image quality to my GP10, I have really appreciated not having the battery 40% and lower issues in the summer heat. Always good to have extra gear 😎
Nice, thoroughreview.. Stabilization looks solid, and the picture quality looks good. It might be helpful to post a vid or a short with footage of the same run with the GoPro 11 vs the Osmo 4
Also, can you talk to summit about removing the tree at 4:15 on miracle mile? It jumped out and grabbed my handlebars last time I was on the trail. So rude😁
@@PetrPolach It sounds like you're talking more about ISO than shutter speed, eh? If so, I set max to ISO to 6400 and leave shutter on auto. This is to prioritize stabilization. If you want to set your shutter speed, use the 180 rule. But you'll be risking poor stabilization in lower light situations.
Thanks for the review Alan. I have a bunch of cameras I fart around with, including a GP11, Insta360 X3 and Go 3, and some older GPs. I don't wear full face because that's not the riding around where I am so I have a choice of chesty or visor mount - the latter only is really possible with the Go 3. Chesty is best but you gotta get that angle right. Visor mount cuts out the horizon which makes for bleh videos. The X3 on chest is great because you can change the FOV to get what you want but the image isn't as good as the GP11. I guess my point is, they all have trade-offs for any given usage. I find the hardest part of any camera though is actually getting out there and using it. The best camera you can get is the one that actually sees the trail.
Ha! Great point. For me, the one that actually sees the trail is the one that has the smallest impact on my stoke. If I gotta use an external mic or wear a camera bra or constantly fiddle with the camera, it's gonna see a lot of the inside of a drawer. That's why for me, it's a hard choice between the GoPro HERO11 and the DJI Action 4. Both are really easy to use on trail, and their strengths and weaknesses are so different. 😆
Great vid, ready to pull the trigger. One question incase I missed it in the video. How much footage do you get in terms of time? On my normal local trails, I'd only need an hours footage for just the descents. One battery enough? Thinking I'd rather not buy the action kit but buy the chest mount as I like the idea of having on my back also, can film my dog behind then🙂
I've been a big fan of the hero 10. I hope the hero 12 doesnt aim to have an even wider fov. Gopro needs to work on the glitches their cameras can have when the battery is lower than about 30% battery. That's the main thing that has had me considering a dji. I still prefer the gopro footage though in this video. I feel like it's a bit hard to tell what's going on and it's bright but kind of...dark if that makes sense.
Fully agree. I know I always try to swap my GoPro battery when it gets closer to 40%. That being said, on the HERO11, I've been running the batteries down to more like 15% and have yet to see glitches. re: Bright and dark. Maybe you mean that there's more contrast? Keep in mind that you're looking at color graded footage. I show the raw color before color-grading at the beginning of some of the clips.
@@mtb_alan Ok cool. I guess gopro is going in the right direction with the previous glitches and other flaws. I have unfortunately not gotten a chance to try the hero 11 so I still can have the glitchers. It could possibly be the contrast but this "bright but dark" visual could also be due to the nd filter and the graded footage combined with that. Im sure it could be easily fixed anyways, and I could also easily get used to it. The OA4 hands down better than the OA3 but I think when the hero 12 is released things may be different.
Great video and very informative but what if you already have a GoPro 10 or 11. Forking over more money for another camera that does the same thing seems well…kinda silly. Good to know info for anyone getting into the action camera game. Had I known about this sooner I may have opted out for the DGI but I’ll stick with my GoPro10 for now. Thanks for the content Alan…🤟🏼🤘🏼
I've watched dozen of dji a3 vs a4 videos and a3 is just as good except for a very few cases. go pro blurs the video at the edges and if you like that then ya dji a3 is not a go pro killer. the a3 vid is actually wide than the a4 which is a bit cropped. the a4 smooths out the video internally taking away the sharpness in some cases. for the price a3 hands down it the clean winner. even in low lights it's good, you just need to set the ios, shutter speed and ev values and boom you got amazing videos.
I think it's better, smoother and crispier! Nice! 👍🏻 I download videos with medium quality for offline viewing because I have a limited internet time or and data. Many if not all with this kind of videos are blocky, no offense, they are still fun to watch. 👍🏻 Make new, better, fun and interesting videos in your own unique way? 👍🏻
@@mtb_alan I got mine and found it. Power on, swipe down from top and an icon menu appears. There’s a button on the bottom left that locks orientation. I’m glad it’s there. Sometimes I fall off my bike and roll around a lot. 😂👍
Hi ! I plan to replace my GoPro Hero 9 Black with Action 4. I have to add foam for my GoPro because the wind sound are ugly. And managing this foam piss me off. The wind noise reduction of Action 4 is it good ? Thanks !
The video footage looks terrible. But I don't think it's the camera. I think it's the camera settings and bad color grading. You need to ditch the ND filter. It'd hard enough not to crush the blacks on an action camera. Putting on the filter makes it much worse.
Do you really need that nd filter? I think you do because you shoot at 24-30 fps and slower shutter? If you were shooting at 50-60 you would be able to set faster shutter and avoid the problems at bright areas
Nope. I don't need the ND filter. I also don't run higher framerate unless I'm planning to do slo-mo in post. That being said, the Action4 has pretty decent dynamic range and by setting a max on the ISO, you can run lower frame rates and also avoid the overexposure issues.
The DJI Action 4 costs more than the bike I have done all my videos on (a 2nd hand 2010 Giant Faith 0). I know which one I want to spend the $ on... and it's not a brick strapped to the side of my head... Ok it's great if you want to blog and do a few other things that MTB riders don't need to do... but where are the tiny weightless cameras with the same optics, that can clip on a helmet perhaps with a remote battery to give even less mass to steer your helmet around on its MIPS system... If they can make tiny drone cameras with excellent optics and stabilisation, why do we have to be "Amazed" with a small school bus strapped to the side of our head. (I have a pair of motorcross goggles with a camera between my eyes that has great optics... and that's 5 years old...
I wanted to use deadcats on the Action4, but I couldn't figure out a good way to do it with the mics below the lens. That's because there is a color temperature sensor right in that same area, and I didn't want to obstruct that.
Yup! That’s what I have on my HERO12. And it works with the DJI magnetic mount. It doesn’t snap in as easily but it works. I can’t recall the brand at the moment.
The Interesting this here is the comparision is the GP11 which has been out for a year. GP12 is soon to be here. It will be interesting to see how that turns out. I did apprieciate that you called out the ACTION 3 for what it was.A really good camera but not better than GP yet. There was a rash of videos on the OA3 a few months ago that it was clear to me DJI gave out a bunch of cameras for free for good reviews. One UA-camr even had the nerve to compare it to an old GP 7 or 8 because that is what he had been using. Not that those are bad by any means but not current spec GoPro. Good Video. A Rad way to start the day! Thanks Alan!
Thanks for the kind words. It will be interesting to see what GoPro comes out with in September. I did collab with DJI to make this vid, but I am legitimately questioning which camera to use when I head to Whistler in a couple weeks.
*Correction:* the tied-to-a-tree footy was not Ultra Wide. It was just Wide. Check out the Osmo Action 4 here: bit.ly/45uf1PZ
This is by far the most helpful mtb test of this camera 👍🏻 Thanks a lot 🙏🏻
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Was looking up reviews for this camera and found your channel and this video is great! That slowmo was butteryyyy smooth!
No matter how rough the trail, the footage remains incredibly smooth. Tried it on my mountain bike last week.
Dude that is a solid camera for sure! Excellent review!
Thanks!
That looks way better than expected 😮
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Thanks for the review and vid on the action 4. Got my action 4 and am looking forward to shooting my MTB this up coming summer! Plus the skating wasn’t that bad🤘🏼🤘🏼🇨🇦🇨🇦. Have a rad day man, and great content.
No worries! Thanks!
This has got to be one of the best product ”testing” videos I’ve ever seen! Just amazing riding footage and the opening editing transitions are seamless. Sorry geeking out a bit. Awesome video!
Ha! Thanks for the kind words, John!
I used DJI Pocket 2 for a bit, and I liked it. Seems like DJI is making some really good cameras, while GoPro lost steam.
DJI is stepping up. But we’ll see what the HERO12 looks like.
The Adventure Combo battery case is a must imo.
unfortunately in my country it would cost me 500 USD so for now i will use some 3rd party
Hadn’t seen your channel before. I am way past where I’d start mountain biking (I break too easily :-)), but I really enjoyed both the review and your riding. Subscribed.
Glad you dug the vid and riding. Thanks for the kind words and for subscribing!
Got mine earlier today and all I can say is the performance of the action 4 was nothing short of impressive.
Brilliant video, awesome riding. Thanks for the info…..😉
No worries! 🤘🏾
Thanks for the kind words.
Good times buddy🤙 slow mo came out great
Heck yeah man! Stoked I ran into ya!
Great review! Think I’m going to pick one up, my primary use is dh MTB as well. Honestly think I preferred the video without the nd filters. Didn’t seem to lose much detail in high light and felt much clearer in low. 🤘🏼
Nice! Yeah...I also prefer the footy without the ND filter. It does sometimes blow out when going from dark to light, but I would trade that for the crisper image.
Sick riding on miracle, great review on the device!
Thanks!
Great review and I have to say; really great riding! 🤟
Thanks! 🤘🏾
Awesome review for the ACTION4.
Thanks! I was impressed by how much DJI improved the image quality.
Another feature that I really appreciated on the action 4 compared to the GoPro was that the wide angle distortion is minimized on the action 4. The perspectives of technical terrain is more real and life like on the action 4. On the GoPro, the distortion makes the terrain look weird, and not as big as it is in real life.
Yeah. I noticed that too.
Even in low light, the footage is surprisingly good now. The capabilities of the Action 3 never allowed for this level of performance.
Production quality of this video is top notch! I need to level up my skills..... and maybe my camera while I'm at it ;-)
Aw dang! Thanks for the kind words!
Yeah the magnet clip system has been super convenient probably the hallmark of the camera. I think for me even though the OA3 was not quite there on the image quality to my GP10, I have really appreciated not having the battery 40% and lower issues in the summer heat. Always good to have extra gear 😎
Totally agree.
Cool video. Was the audio recorded in camera, or did you have an external mic? Your voice is very crisp.
Thanks! I used the internal mic on the camera. There are some parts of the video though where I do some voice over using my studio mic.
Nice, thoroughreview.. Stabilization looks solid, and the picture quality looks good. It might be helpful to post a vid or a short with footage of the same run with the GoPro 11 vs the Osmo 4
Also, can you talk to summit about removing the tree at 4:15 on miracle mile? It jumped out and grabbed my handlebars last time I was on the trail. So rude😁
Thanks! Well, it's not back to back in the same vid, but you can get a look at the HERO11 footage here: ua-cam.com/video/kMUF44Ztm64/v-deo.html
🌲 LOL! Never noticed that tree. Great! Now I'm gonna hit it. 😆
@mtb_alan do you set your settings exposure settings to manual exposure or do you leave it all in auto?
In this video, I left the exposure settings fully on auto.
Sometimes, I will limit the ISO max to 1600 though.
@@mtb_alan thank you sir for the info, I just got mine and was wondering how to get the proper exposure for it
@@mtb_alan And shutter speed minimal value? 100 - 8000? or Quicker?
@@PetrPolach It sounds like you're talking more about ISO than shutter speed, eh?
If so, I set max to ISO to 6400 and leave shutter on auto. This is to prioritize stabilization. If you want to set your shutter speed, use the 180 rule. But you'll be risking poor stabilization in lower light situations.
Dope video man, I felt like I was actually on the bike with you. I wanted to break so bad haha
Thanks! LOL! Would be rad to see you on the trails!
Damn. That editing though. Very engaging. If I didn't just buy a GoPro 11, I might have given this cam a try.
Thanks man!
I think you're gonna be just fine with the 11. :)
@@mtb_alan For sure. 😊👍
Thanks for the review Alan. I have a bunch of cameras I fart around with, including a GP11, Insta360 X3 and Go 3, and some older GPs. I don't wear full face because that's not the riding around where I am so I have a choice of chesty or visor mount - the latter only is really possible with the Go 3. Chesty is best but you gotta get that angle right. Visor mount cuts out the horizon which makes for bleh videos. The X3 on chest is great because you can change the FOV to get what you want but the image isn't as good as the GP11. I guess my point is, they all have trade-offs for any given usage. I find the hardest part of any camera though is actually getting out there and using it. The best camera you can get is the one that actually sees the trail.
Ha! Great point.
For me, the one that actually sees the trail is the one that has the smallest impact on my stoke. If I gotta use an external mic or wear a camera bra or constantly fiddle with the camera, it's gonna see a lot of the inside of a drawer.
That's why for me, it's a hard choice between the GoPro HERO11 and the DJI Action 4. Both are really easy to use on trail, and their strengths and weaknesses are so different. 😆
Great review 👏🔥. Are you using a chin mount?
Thanks! Yup. 👍🏾
Came for the review just out of curiosity and I gotta say, you’ve always been a decent rider but holy sh*t have you become a pretty sick rider!
Ha! Thanks!
The inclusion of DJI-made ND filters eliminates the need for third-party accessories. It's a thoughtful addition.
Thanks for the review - how do you mount the camera? Chest strap or on the helmet?
My pleasure. On the chinbar of the helmet.
Great vid, ready to pull the trigger. One question incase I missed it in the video. How much footage do you get in terms of time? On my normal local trails, I'd only need an hours footage for just the descents. One battery enough? Thinking I'd rather not buy the action kit but buy the chest mount as I like the idea of having on my back also, can film my dog behind then🙂
The amount of footage will depend on the size of the memory card you use. Sounds like a 256Gb card would be plenty of you.
Boom! My back made it into a video i guess its offical im a star now lol nice meeting you in the parking lot at the begging of the day. Shred on 🤙
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The battery life is quite impressive.
I've been a big fan of the hero 10. I hope the hero 12 doesnt aim to have an even wider fov. Gopro needs to work on the glitches their cameras can have when the battery is lower than about 30% battery. That's the main thing that has had me considering a dji. I still prefer the gopro footage though in this video. I feel like it's a bit hard to tell what's going on and it's bright but kind of...dark if that makes sense.
Fully agree. I know I always try to swap my GoPro battery when it gets closer to 40%. That being said, on the HERO11, I've been running the batteries down to more like 15% and have yet to see glitches.
re: Bright and dark. Maybe you mean that there's more contrast? Keep in mind that you're looking at color graded footage. I show the raw color before color-grading at the beginning of some of the clips.
@@mtb_alan Ok cool. I guess gopro is going in the right direction with the previous glitches and other flaws. I have unfortunately not gotten a chance to try the hero 11 so I still can have the glitchers. It could possibly be the contrast but this "bright but dark" visual could also be due to the nd filter and the graded footage combined with that. Im sure it could be easily fixed anyways, and I could also easily get used to it.
The OA4 hands down better than the OA3 but I think when the hero 12 is released things may be different.
@@Conner21230 🎯
Great video and very informative but what if you already have a GoPro 10 or 11. Forking over more money for another camera that does the same thing seems well…kinda silly. Good to know info for anyone getting into the action camera game. Had I known about this sooner I may have opted out for the DGI but I’ll stick with my GoPro10 for now. Thanks for the content Alan…🤟🏼🤘🏼
Thanks for the kind words!
Yah, definitely stick with the 10 if you already got it. 💯
I've watched dozen of dji a3 vs a4 videos and a3 is just as good except for a very few cases. go pro blurs the video at the edges and if you like that then ya dji a3 is not a go pro killer. the a3 vid is actually wide than the a4 which is a bit cropped. the a4 smooths out the video internally taking away the sharpness in some cases. for the price a3 hands down it the clean winner. even in low lights it's good, you just need to set the ios, shutter speed and ev values and boom you got amazing videos.
I think it's better, smoother and crispier! Nice! 👍🏻
I download videos with medium quality for offline viewing because I have a limited internet time or and data.
Many if not all with this kind of videos are blocky, no offense, they are still fun to watch. 👍🏻
Make new, better, fun and interesting videos in your own unique way? 👍🏻
With all the features I desire in an action cam, the Action 4 will become my primary choice. GoPro is no longer a contender. Dji has won me over!
The image quality on the Action 4 surpasses expectations. I can finally retire my GoPro with confidence.
Nice work, a little techie to follow. Slow mo was insane. GoPro is black berry, rightful death coming soon
Thanks!
I wouldn't count GoPro out yet. We'll see what September brings.
I hang my GoPro 9 upside down under my helmet peak. I have the video orientation locked in that direction in the GoPro. Can you do that in the DJI?
The DJI auto rotates the image. I don't recall off the top of my head wether you can lock that orientation or not.
@@mtb_alan Ok thank you.
@@mtb_alan I got mine and found it. Power on, swipe down from top and an icon menu appears. There’s a button on the bottom left that locks orientation. I’m glad it’s there. Sometimes I fall off my bike and roll around a lot. 😂👍
What's the price comparison to the newest GoPro
You can check the most up to date pricing is here: bit.ly/45uf1PZ
osmo action is nice but i would still wait a month and see what will the new gopro will bring
Not a bad plan.
Hi ! I plan to replace my GoPro Hero 9 Black with Action 4.
I have to add foam for my GoPro because the wind sound are ugly. And managing this foam piss me off.
The wind noise reduction of Action 4 is it good ?
Thanks !
It’s pretty good.
The video footage looks terrible. But I don't think it's the camera. I think it's the camera settings and bad color grading. You need to ditch the ND filter. It'd hard enough not to crush the blacks on an action camera. Putting on the filter makes it much worse.
So angry.
Do you really need that nd filter? I think you do because you shoot at 24-30 fps and slower shutter? If you were shooting at 50-60 you would be able to set faster shutter and avoid the problems at bright areas
Nope. I don't need the ND filter.
I also don't run higher framerate unless I'm planning to do slo-mo in post.
That being said, the Action4 has pretty decent dynamic range and by setting a max on the ISO, you can run lower frame rates and also avoid the overexposure issues.
@02:19 "D-CINE COLOR"??? Do you mean DLOG-M? Or is this not Osmo Action 4 footage?
Thanks for the correction.
@@mtb_alanNo worries, great video. I just wanted to confirm that was DLOG-M footage. Right? If so, it looks great. How did you grade it?
@@KayakFishingAddict Right. :)
I color grade in Premiere.
The DJI Action 4 costs more than the bike I have done all my videos on (a 2nd hand 2010 Giant Faith 0). I know which one I want to spend the $ on... and it's not a brick strapped to the side of my head...
Ok it's great if you want to blog and do a few other things that MTB riders don't need to do... but where are the tiny weightless cameras with the same optics, that can clip on a helmet perhaps with a remote battery to give even less mass to steer your helmet around on its MIPS system...
If they can make tiny drone cameras with excellent optics and stabilisation, why do we have to be "Amazed" with a small school bus strapped to the side of our head.
(I have a pair of motorcross goggles with a camera between my eyes that has great optics... and that's 5 years old...
just got the Osmo 4....still figuring out right settings...i hate the APK / app....im already at 4gb memory....its crazy....
What do you do for audio?
In this vid, the audio was all from the camera's mics.
@@mtb_alan would you suggest dead cats?
I wanted to use deadcats on the Action4, but I couldn't figure out a good way to do it with the mics below the lens. That's because there is a color temperature sensor right in that same area, and I didn't want to obstruct that.
@@mtb_alan yeah I'm trying to figure out how to do it. Might just have to mount them and trim them so that light gets through
Would love to see how it works out. 🤘🏾
Anyone have any recommendations for setting for mtb pov
Ultrawide. 24fps. 🤘🏾
Did you know that you can buy this $15 dollar finger for GoPro they will have magic, fingers and 1/4. All in one. I own one
Yup! That’s what I have on my HERO12. And it works with the DJI magnetic mount. It doesn’t snap in as easily but it works. I can’t recall the brand at the moment.
Still doesn’t seem to handle the dynamic range as well as the GoPro.
Try an insta 360
I have. The image quality is subpar.
The Interesting this here is the comparision is the GP11 which has been out for a year. GP12 is soon to be here. It will be interesting to see how that turns out. I did apprieciate that you called out the ACTION 3 for what it was.A really good camera but not better than GP yet. There was a rash of videos on the OA3 a few months ago that it was clear to me DJI gave out a bunch of cameras for free for good reviews. One UA-camr even had the nerve to compare it to an old GP 7 or 8 because that is what he had been using. Not that those are bad by any means but not current spec GoPro. Good Video. A Rad way to start the day! Thanks Alan!
Thanks for the kind words.
It will be interesting to see what GoPro comes out with in September.
I did collab with DJI to make this vid, but I am legitimately questioning which camera to use when I head to Whistler in a couple weeks.