The only story that takes the Impossible Girl, puzzle box criticism and turns it into actual drama as opposed to just something interesting to write on blogs
If you told me Jay Exci was going to guest star on Whotracks, I couldn't have guessed they chose this episode in a million years. But I'm thankful it happened!
Yea, and it's not rouges theme, it was just a cover they did for a compilation album. It's arguably Blaze's theme but that's mostly just because similar themes
7:35 I mean one big finish companion entered the TARDIS during the Chase & stayed inside until the partway through the C.Baker Doctor's life so guess best plan of survival is just stay indoors
This episode is alongside Timelash, Arc of Infinity & Nightmare In Silver as episodes that have sci-fi novel sounding, enticing and evocative episode titles that fire up your imagination when you hear them.. followed by you watching the episode and going "....oh".
I still look back fondly on this season but 80% of that is literally me remembering reading the first synopsises and getting hyped and mostly forgetting the actual episodes themselves
It is utterly incredible how Clara goes from Moffat on autopilot writing the most generic Moffat Woman imaginable, to one of the deepest and most complex the show has ever seen. She literally goes from my least favourite to my favourite, and it happens basically DURING a single episode.
I loved this epsiode on release and I rewatched it last week, I still love it! Sure it has faults, but it's Doctor Who, part of the fun is looking past the cheese and buying into everything in the moment!
Okay I’m not even five minutes in and I just have to say fire woman is by the cult. Crush 40 covered the song on their 2009 compilation album Super Sonic songs, the best of Crush 40. That comment about it being written by Crush 40 both angered and made me smile because Crush 40 is un-ironically my favourite band.
19:49 Nahh Moffat definitively has some horniness specifically for self-cest. He's written 3 minisodes of characters getting stuck in timeloops in the tardis with both Clara and Amy flirting with themselves and River considering a threesome with 2 Doctors. The premise of the shorts space and time is especially horny, they're about Rory fucking up the Tardis cause he was staring up Amy's skirt through the Tardis' glass floor. This was after we get a story about Amy only passing her driving test cause the instructor was too busy perving on the same miniskirt. Clara in the Tardis, Space and Time aaand First Night and Last Night are the shorts btw
I honestly love any episode to do with the TARDIS, especially deeper internal episodes like this. Mainly because so much of the TARDIS remains a mystery and it's fun developing and learning about it. I also like how over Matt Smith's era it was given more of its own personality, and you really get the sense it's alive instead of just being told by the Doctor that it's alive
I will not hear a bad word about Crimson Horror! It's weird and camp and fun and is one of a few episodes where the Doctor is 100% useless throughout lol. Everyone ends up being so competent that he becomes a companion in the story.
I hate it, absolutely atrocious episode. Weird, but in a bad way, painfully unfunny and so cringe! I'd rather rewatch Love and Monsters and that is saying something 😵
i particularly like that it acknowledges that there's more to England than London and countryside (Wales is Cardiff and countryside and Scotland is Aberdeen and countryside. Ireland may or may not exist?). i think they only made it to North West England in the Chibnall era, with countryside and self storage
I just watched this and damn I really liked it. Matt Smith had a real tom baker energy, the story was coherent, with a couple of time travel mysteries. Louise Coleman allowed to actually play a part was great, even tge side characters were developed. And whilst it looked a bit shonky, some of the sets looking like ikea showrooms, the story and energy carried it. I can forgive the fact that it's basically the Dr inviting 3 dudes to explore inside his wife.....
I like the idea of the TARDIS becoming something sinister for an episode. We usually think of it as a hub for our characters, a place to rest and relax, and not, you know, an infinite multidimensional semi-sentient creature that has access to all of time and space and could very easily kill anyone it wanted. I love how the Doctor acts when the crew is doing something to the TARDIS, as if they’re prodding a ferocious beast, he seems so genuinely worried and concerned, like, yeah, the rest of the universe is pretty scary, but in here, you are in LEGITIMATE danger, and thus gives gravitas to the Timelords as so scientifically knowledgable, it borders on magic.
Fire Woman according to Tardis Wiki is a song by The Cult - didn’t think it way but Crush 40 - and I know the only theme Rouge the Bat has is ‘Fly in the Freedom’
It's been a while since I've seen this episode so I may be misremembering certain aspects of it, but... 1. The two older brothers ARE boring charmless planks and the "joke" they play on their younger brother is strangely cruel. I thought however that their final scene with the photo indicated that they are now treating him as family? 2. Clara was a quip machine in her early episodes. Well meaning male writers often fall into a trap where in an effort to avoid all the old stereotypes they think it's clever to create new ones, namely that all heroines must be effortlessly witty/brave/intelligent/composed at all times. I think they just about get away with it with Clara in the sense that aspects of her have been assisting previous Doctors, so she is kind of allowed to hit the ground running in her first proper appearance as Clara Oswald. Although I liked the chemistry Clara had with 11, I think her relationship with 12 was more interesting and she became more interesting in the process. 3. I understand the impulse to want to explore the TARDIS, I really do. It's my favorite science fictional vehicle. In fact I have a TARDIS model on my desk that I'm looking at as I type this. The thing is though it's ultimately a story device to get our heroes from one place/adventure to the next. I feel it should have remained a mysterious cold white sterile (mostly) unknowable place as it usually was in the classic series. In the final year of the the McCoy/JNT era we spend only a couple of minutes in the TARDIS, tops (and in just one episode of one story, "Battlefield", IIRC), and I think the stories in that season are the better for it. Back in 1999, Russell T. Davies, Steven Moffatt and Mark Gatiss (along with Lance Parkin, Gareth Roberts & Paul Cornell), were interviewed for a Doctor Who Magazine article about what each of them would do if A: The show came back and B: they got to be the show runner. The reason I bring it up is that Moffatt said that all past continuity should be chucked and indicated that as little time as possible should be spent inside the TARDIS. In fact his exact words were "Us kids want Narnia, not the wardrobe". Funny how his actual era turned out in retrospect, but as the saying goes, The Moffatt lies.
Oh my gosh. I’m a huge sonic fan and I was certain when this was broadcast that it’s was Crush 40 but I never truly found out and I’m so happy I finally got closure on that
I do think Doctor's Wife horniness is Moffat brand horniness. S7B Moffat was probably too busy with the 50th to edit that consistently so...yeah sorry Neil I'm blaming you for the skirt line.
i honestly love this episode. i don't think it's particularly profound and necessarily *good*, but it's just a lot of fun. i feel like the TARDIS is so often just a prop and i enjoy getting to see more of it, even if it's not that much more. i remember really wanting the masks they wear when they enter the TARDIS at the start of the COVID lockdowns, and thinking it was a missed opportunity that we didn't do anything fun with mask designs beyond drawing on them
The 2006 dr who visual annual, which I have...I stole from a library in 2008.... says the tardis engine is a fungal spore abd that it only had 1 room...because this was still "unsure if its a reboot or not" part of the rtd era
Wait, what was wrong with your short trip idea? The idea of The Doctor taking on a new companion who just immediately gets lost in the TARDIS and is never seen again actually sounds really cool!
2:22 - To be fair nothing about that brought up Amy's sex, just made fun of her driving ability in the same way they could've done to a man, but yeah there is a lot of misogyny in the Moffat era xp
The episode where everyone misinterpretates what the artificial reconfiguration system is it can make anything it always could make anything why the hell do you think he has a swimming pool he can't make f****** macguffins but he can make 50 Squash Courts
This is a story I’ve just revisited recently for a video, and I feel like it’s aged really REALLY poorly. It just feels very shallow and the Van Balen Bros’ whole thing is just so stupid.
Does it count as aging poorly when it got a fair share of criticism upon release? Sure, there may have been a decent amount of creativity in it, but I wouldn’t have called it universally loved.
Clara literally asks if he's simplifying the tartar system because she's a woman of course that's not the actual church is because she's a human it's not misogyny it's space racism which knowing humanity is kind of understandable that feels kind of wrong to say
Yea remember this episode being rubbish. And the eye of hormany being in the Tardis which was only seen in the Paul Megan film even thou that had never been seen in tv show before.
6:48 exactlyyyy. Make it a little smaller on the inside! We should always leave the TARDIS as soon as possible, the premise of hanging around for fifty minutes is so dulllllll. People say this episode didn't do the concept of a TARDIS-only story justice, I say this is the best you're gonna get with such a lame idea.
Probably one of the worst Doctor Who episodes ever made. Doctor Freedom here on UA-cam calls it "Journey to the Centre of my Disappointment," and I don't blame him.
Series 7 is really overhated.. Asylum of the daleks, crimson horror, name of the doctor, and nightmare ins silver are all shit And cold war, dinosaurs on a spaceship, power of 3, this episode and the snowmen are all mediocre... so yeah it's prilly the worst series in the Moffat era. But irs not all bad Angels in mathatten and hide are both massive mixed bags And bells of St.john, rings of akhenten are decent. And the specials +a town called mercy are acc pretty good. So yeag...not amazing, prolly the worst series in the first 10 series. But still not all shit.
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The only story that takes the Impossible Girl, puzzle box criticism and turns it into actual drama as opposed to just something interesting to write on blogs
If you told me Jay Exci was going to guest star on Whotracks, I couldn't have guessed they chose this episode in a million years. But I'm thankful it happened!
Fire Woman is by The Cult originally, covered by Crush 40, who are vocal artists for the Sonic The Hedgehog series.
Yea, and it's not rouges theme, it was just a cover they did for a compilation album. It's arguably Blaze's theme but that's mostly just because similar themes
I have also got Clara's wardrobe memorised in a non-creepy way. Good taste in style
I love how Jay keeps getting side-tracked by all the characters costumes, I really quite like them all too
7:35 I mean one big finish companion entered the TARDIS during the Chase & stayed inside until the partway through the C.Baker Doctor's life so guess best plan of survival is just stay indoors
This episode is alongside Timelash, Arc of Infinity & Nightmare In Silver as episodes that have sci-fi novel sounding, enticing and evocative episode titles that fire up your imagination when you hear them.. followed by you watching the episode and going "....oh".
I still look back fondly on this season but 80% of that is literally me remembering reading the first synopsises and getting hyped and mostly forgetting the actual episodes themselves
Is it mean to call them clickbait episodes?
It is utterly incredible how Clara goes from Moffat on autopilot writing the most generic Moffat Woman imaginable, to one of the deepest and most complex the show has ever seen. She literally goes from my least favourite to my favourite, and it happens basically DURING a single episode.
I loved this epsiode on release and I rewatched it last week, I still love it! Sure it has faults, but it's Doctor Who, part of the fun is looking past the cheese and buying into everything in the moment!
Okay I’m not even five minutes in and I just have to say fire woman is by the cult. Crush 40 covered the song on their 2009 compilation album Super Sonic songs, the best of Crush 40. That comment about it being written by Crush 40 both angered and made me smile because Crush 40 is un-ironically my favourite band.
19:49 Nahh Moffat definitively has some horniness specifically for self-cest. He's written 3 minisodes of characters getting stuck in timeloops in the tardis with both Clara and Amy flirting with themselves and River considering a threesome with 2 Doctors. The premise of the shorts space and time is especially horny, they're about Rory fucking up the Tardis cause he was staring up Amy's skirt through the Tardis' glass floor. This was after we get a story about Amy only passing her driving test cause the instructor was too busy perving on the same miniskirt.
Clara in the Tardis, Space and Time aaand First Night and Last Night are the shorts btw
Also don’t forget the “joke” fanfic of Missy marrying Ainley Master and well…Doctor Falls XD
I honestly love any episode to do with the TARDIS, especially deeper internal episodes like this. Mainly because so much of the TARDIS remains a mystery and it's fun developing and learning about it. I also like how over Matt Smith's era it was given more of its own personality, and you really get the sense it's alive instead of just being told by the Doctor that it's alive
Jay: No! Don't turn me into a marketable plushie!
Davis: 2:32
I will not hear a bad word about Crimson Horror! It's weird and camp and fun and is one of a few episodes where the Doctor is 100% useless throughout lol. Everyone ends up being so competent that he becomes a companion in the story.
Yes exactly! Underrated gem honestly
I hate it, absolutely atrocious episode. Weird, but in a bad way, painfully unfunny and so cringe! I'd rather rewatch Love and Monsters and that is saying something 😵
I don’t get the hate I had a lot of fun watching it
the biggest thing I love about it is how absolutely unhinged the old woman is. she gave no shits and went out fighting.
i particularly like that it acknowledges that there's more to England than London and countryside (Wales is Cardiff and countryside and Scotland is Aberdeen and countryside. Ireland may or may not exist?). i think they only made it to North West England in the Chibnall era, with countryside and self storage
I just watched this and damn I really liked it. Matt Smith had a real tom baker energy, the story was coherent, with a couple of time travel mysteries. Louise Coleman allowed to actually play a part was great, even tge side characters were developed. And whilst it looked a bit shonky, some of the sets looking like ikea showrooms, the story and energy carried it. I can forgive the fact that it's basically the Dr inviting 3 dudes to explore inside his wife.....
I like the idea of the TARDIS becoming something sinister for an episode. We usually think of it as a hub for our characters, a place to rest and relax, and not, you know, an infinite multidimensional semi-sentient creature that has access to all of time and space and could very easily kill anyone it wanted. I love how the Doctor acts when the crew is doing something to the TARDIS, as if they’re prodding a ferocious beast, he seems so genuinely worried and concerned, like, yeah, the rest of the universe is pretty scary, but in here, you are in LEGITIMATE danger, and thus gives gravitas to the Timelords as so scientifically knowledgable, it borders on magic.
Fire Woman according to Tardis Wiki is a song by The Cult - didn’t think it way but Crush 40 - and I know the only theme Rouge the Bat has is ‘Fly in the Freedom’
it's a cover they did that is associated with her by fans
@@SamyulDavis ah okay, I’ve found the cover
this is a monumentous occasion
This episode was my favorite episode at the time.
I hope you do more of these!
It's been a while since I've seen this episode so I may be misremembering certain aspects of it, but...
1. The two older brothers ARE boring charmless planks and the "joke" they play on their younger brother is strangely cruel. I thought however that their final scene with the photo indicated that they are now treating him as family?
2. Clara was a quip machine in her early episodes. Well meaning male writers often fall into a trap where in an effort to avoid all the old stereotypes they think it's clever to create new ones, namely that all heroines must be effortlessly witty/brave/intelligent/composed at all times. I think they just about get away with it with Clara in the sense that aspects of her have been assisting previous Doctors, so she is kind of allowed to hit the ground running in her first proper appearance as Clara Oswald. Although I liked the chemistry Clara had with 11, I think her relationship with 12 was more interesting and she became more interesting in the process.
3. I understand the impulse to want to explore the TARDIS, I really do. It's my favorite science fictional vehicle. In fact I have a TARDIS model on my desk that I'm looking at as I type this. The thing is though it's ultimately a story device to get our heroes from one place/adventure to the next. I feel it should have remained a mysterious cold white sterile (mostly) unknowable place as it usually was in the classic series. In the final year of the the McCoy/JNT era we spend only a couple of minutes in the TARDIS, tops (and in just one episode of one story, "Battlefield", IIRC), and I think the stories in that season are the better for it.
Back in 1999, Russell T. Davies, Steven Moffatt and Mark Gatiss (along with Lance Parkin, Gareth Roberts & Paul Cornell), were interviewed for a Doctor Who Magazine article about what each of them would do if A: The show came back and B: they got to be the show runner. The reason I bring it up is that Moffatt said that all past continuity should be chucked and indicated that as little time as possible should be spent inside the TARDIS. In fact his exact words were "Us kids want Narnia, not the wardrobe". Funny how his actual era turned out in retrospect, but as the saying goes, The Moffatt lies.
why am i attracted to the animated davis avatar from this episode-
Crush 40, like Sonic.... *YEEEEAAAAH!*
you could have an entire season of Star Trek in the Tardis
Oh my gosh. I’m a huge sonic fan and I was certain when this was broadcast that it’s was Crush 40 but I never truly found out and I’m so happy I finally got closure on that
Omg the best collaboration
I do think Doctor's Wife horniness is Moffat brand horniness. S7B Moffat was probably too busy with the 50th to edit that consistently so...yeah sorry Neil I'm blaming you for the skirt line.
On a related note I've been wondering if RTD's (lower level than Moffat but still noticeable) horniness will be returning with him in 2023?
@@Faction.Paradox we can only hope
Nice video!
i honestly love this episode. i don't think it's particularly profound and necessarily *good*, but it's just a lot of fun. i feel like the TARDIS is so often just a prop and i enjoy getting to see more of it, even if it's not that much more. i remember really wanting the masks they wear when they enter the TARDIS at the start of the COVID lockdowns, and thinking it was a missed opportunity that we didn't do anything fun with mask designs beyond drawing on them
Searching for Death Comes to Time I instead find Death Comes to Pemberley, staring, among others, Jenna Coleman.
Hey you Should check out the brilliant book of doctor who annual series lots of hidden gems for broke canon
The 2006 dr who visual annual, which I have...I stole from a library in 2008.... says the tardis engine is a fungal spore abd that it only had 1 room...because this was still "unsure if its a reboot or not" part of the rtd era
Wait, what was wrong with your short trip idea? The idea of The Doctor taking on a new companion who just immediately gets lost in the TARDIS and is never seen again actually sounds really cool!
Time hiest was good, change my mind
8:45 That’s Zagreus.
2:22 - To be fair nothing about that brought up Amy's sex, just made fun of her driving ability in the same way they could've done to a man, but yeah there is a lot of misogyny in the Moffat era xp
Why is outro music playing throughout the video lol
DAVIS-hiya!~you created pro uploadinng! ;))
Jayexciiiiiiii!
Sorry, I moved the likes to 43.
Chibnall no more
Why did Jay turn into a marketable plushie for most of the video?
i feel special watching this video
I feel like the point of clara is that she is the perfect companion
The episode where everyone misinterpretates what the artificial reconfiguration system is it can make anything it always could make anything why the hell do you think he has a swimming pool he can't make f****** macguffins but he can make 50 Squash Courts
This is a story I’ve just revisited recently for a video, and I feel like it’s aged really REALLY poorly. It just feels very shallow and the Van Balen Bros’ whole thing is just so stupid.
Does it count as aging poorly when it got a fair share of criticism upon release?
Sure, there may have been a decent amount of creativity in it, but I wouldn’t have called it universally loved.
genuinely can’t tell if you’re joking about nick briggs’ anger management issues lmao
You're gonna love a future upload
Clara literally asks if he's simplifying the tartar system because she's a woman of course that's not the actual church is because she's a human it's not misogyny it's space racism which knowing humanity is kind of understandable that feels kind of wrong to say
Jay has a very similar accent to tharries!
As a racist, I really like this episode
Yea remember this episode being rubbish. And the eye of hormany being in the Tardis which was only seen in the Paul Megan film even thou that had never been seen in tv show before.
This might be the least interesting modern TARDIS interior to do this story with. Very blue and grey and metal.
clara did eat her looks on every outing yup
6:48 exactlyyyy. Make it a little smaller on the inside! We should always leave the TARDIS as soon as possible, the premise of hanging around for fifty minutes is so dulllllll. People say this episode didn't do the concept of a TARDIS-only story justice, I say this is the best you're gonna get with such a lame idea.
Yeah, an infinite ancient semi-sentient spaceship with every room you could every imagine on the inside is so lame.
the other guy sounds awful
Probably one of the worst Doctor Who episodes ever made. Doctor Freedom here on UA-cam calls it "Journey to the Centre of my Disappointment," and I don't blame him.
Series 7 is really overhated..
Asylum of the daleks, crimson horror, name of the doctor, and nightmare ins silver are all shit
And cold war, dinosaurs on a spaceship, power of 3, this episode and the snowmen are all mediocre... so yeah it's prilly the worst series in the Moffat era.
But irs not all bad
Angels in mathatten and hide are both massive mixed bags
And bells of St.john, rings of akhenten are decent. And the specials +a town called mercy are acc pretty good.
So yeag...not amazing, prolly the worst series in the first 10 series. But still not all shit.