1. ST's photon and quantum torpedoes have anti-matter warheads 2. ST has transporter technology: they can simply bean warheads aboard enemy ships, if not boarding parties and other 3. Energy shields and impulse drives 4. Phaser banks that can quickly target enemy ships at almost 360 degree angles (depending on coverage) 5. Warp capability without needing to open a hyperspace gate
Agreed, B5 ships wouldn't stand a chance against a starfleet vessel. A grain of sand would hit like rail gun on steroids while a starship was traveling at warp speeds, but does nothing to their navigational shields. The only thing that a B5 jump drive equipped ship could do is hope to damage or cripple a starfleet vessel with the "bonehead maneuver" (opening a second jump point in a active jump gate and run, most likely not fast enough hence bonehead).
@@pfksr64 I will see Lita Alexander and raise you Guinan. In the words of John Sheridan "Your not the only one thats been touched by the Vorlons!" Or in Guinan's case the nexus. Also Guinan is a "bit" more handy with a phaser than John is with a PPG.
@@pfksr64 ST universe also has telepaths. Perhaps not as strong as telepaths are portrayed in BS5 universe, but probably strong enough to block BS5 telepaths. And Data is an android, immune to telepaths.
@@craigstalmer2825 Not really In Stargate universe, the Wraith countered Asgard beaming by jamming In Trek, it has been shown that there are ways to jam transporters without shields So yes initially B5 would have problems but they can learn to counter
@@verdebusterAP This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
I think B5 with its white star fleet would take out alot of ST ships. The white stars must be the one of the best ships in both universe's. It just looks the part.
A lot of comments about the shields, in case someone is wondering: "Shields won`t be installed until Tuesday!" That´s why i just gonna lean back and enjoy this Science Fiction crossover epicness. ps.: That Earthcruiser is called "Backgammon" :D 6:08
This YT video was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babel 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody... or at least ... was that the name? I quite forgot after reading the comments). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force. And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
The nerd in me calls BS. Starfleet ships had shields, phasers, quantum torpedos and in many cases ablative armor. The B5 ships had inferior weapons and no shielding. Notice how no star fleet ships seemed to have any shielding? They had to nerf them in order to make it an even fight. Star fleet would have absolutely annihilated the B5 ships with barely a scratch.
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade. So that shows how even walmart copies of star trek ships can still give a run of their money agaisnt the non-First Ones set of ships.
Starfleet firepower would likely decimate anything that the humans of B5 could come up with, especially without shields (why did the Federation ships lose shields at the beginning of this?). The Defiant vs. a White Star would be interesting though, and you can't have B5 properly represented without the Mimbari showing up. Dalen appearing with a Mimbari fleet and sending them on their way would have been a fantastic way to end this showdown.
my guess is that the Jump Gate overloaded the Shield Emitters, also, would the Minbari destroy ships so close to B5 especially when we have a fair idea of what warp core breaches do, and they would too upon the Galaxy class ship exploding...man..Keogh just can't catch a break.
Two points I'd say to the question of why the Federation ships don't have shields. I remember fondly back in the day, debating Star Trek vs everything else, and I went pretty deep into it. Federation ships seem to frequently lose their shields as soon as a big battle starts. See DS9: Sacrifice of Angels, or the battles of Wolf 359 and Sector 001. Between the three battles, I only saw two Federation ships take shield hits, one being the Enterprise E. I suspect in large, pitched battles, most ships redirect shield power to weapons, or more likely my second thought: Federation shield tech operates by using a phase modulation field, which blocks the wave patterns of things like lasers, phasers and photonic weapons, unless the weapon frequency matches. However, that really only works on light-based weapons. Again, lasers, phasers (photon-microwave lasers), and photon torpedoes. They are notably worse, if even capable of it at all, at blocking plasma based weapons. Disruptors in Star Trek are, as I understand it, plasma particle weapons that are carried by laser/phaser beams. Babylon 5 ships appear to use plasma based weapons, without laser carriers. Side note: Star Wars weapons, despite being called 'lasers', behave in such a way as to indicate that they're not lasers, but also plasma weapons. Edit: I see there's some dialogue included talking about the shield loss. I dunno what caused that in the original video, or if the dialogue was added to explain it. Also I wouldn't put too much faith in the dialogue, as it's ridiculously inconsistent.
@@TheOtherGuys2 I get that but the 3 examples you used aren't the best Sacrifice of Angels, the Dominion already knew how to punch through federation shielding. If the defiant mentioned shields in dialogue then I can only assume either slip-up for budget For Wolf 359, using Picard's knowledge, the Borg were able to bypass Federation shields entirely and one tap ships at will. At first contact, those ships were fighting for several days straight, we can only presume each of those starfleet vessels were already heavily battle damaged, I.E. the Defiant, as she was fighting at almost every line the Borg had approached.
@@lexthelegend1455 At Wolf 359, Picard wouldn't have known each individual ship's shield frequency. I think in that case the Borg just overpowered the Federation ships. But even so, their shields ostensibly should have been there to be overpowered. Anyway, those are the only big fleet battles in Star Trek I can think of. Do you have other examples? (I haven't actually seen most of DS9, to be fair.)
@@TheOtherGuys2 I think the reason for not giving shields to Federation ships is obvious. It would have been a boring bloodbath if Federation ships where using their shields. Without shields is a more balanced battle. And no one, NO ONE will choose to lower shields in the middle of a battle. Also the idea of plasma weapons bypassing shields comes with a logical error. if shields where incapable of stopping plasma weapons, then everyone in the Star Trek Universe would be switching to plasma weapons or at least putting a few of those next to their standard torpedoes and phasers. Then in the battle, first destroy enemy shield generators with a plasma beam, then finish enemy ship with all weapons available.
Two best? Farscape? Stargate? Old dr who? Old star wars? Battlestar Galactica? Not knocking star trek or Babylon 5 they are great Sci fi... but the best is definitely in the eye of the beholder 😉.
What killed me throughout the entire video was the fact that the sovereign class the most advanced starship in Starfleet got destroyed but the original Connie refit was still going like wait what I'm so confused right now
Man, I love the sound effects that you edited for the Babylon 5 weapons, especially with the Omega-class at 8:16 and the Victory-class here at 9:39 Can I get the UA-cam link for the sounds?
Unfortunately, I lost the file for the victory, but I have the omega beam here that or do you mean if you want all weapon sfx? drive.google.com/file/d/1VF0-0xTKPojsXyQDKAkG8t_pD3H1fZ6o/view?usp=sharing
@@lexthelegend1455 Ok, nevermind, I found some Babylon 5 and Star Trek sounds by my own search and made my own Babylon 5 vs Star Trek memes. Although I really need help with something; I'm planning on making a meme where a certain popular cringe Minecraft YoutTuber gets bombarded by a Minecraft version of the USS Enterprise-E. All I need is just the sound of 1. Sisko saying "threat neutralized" at 6:46 2. The guy saying "we've achieved our objective" at 6:58 3. And Janeway saying "goodwork, our mission objective has been achieved" at 15:48
Judging by a lot of these comments, many of you have never seen star wreck in the pirkinning. It was a fanfilm made by a couple guys in Finland way back in 2005. The original version was free.. when they decided to release a dvd of it.. and make actual money, they had to redo all of the special effects with new ships/stations. So pretty much what you are seeing is now 15-16year old effects.. pretty good for back then actually.
The closest comparison from Star Trek I can think of offhand is when the Romulans and Cardassians attacked the 'Founders Homeworld'. 30 percent of the planetary crust was destroyed in the opening volley. Hell of a lot of damage. Realistically I think Earth Force, even with the help of the Rangers, are pretty much screwed.
Except Earth Alliance ships are armed with point defense that can shoot down incoming energy bursts. They are specifically the only B5 star nation to have such weaponry. Torpedos should be mostly useless except for the odd lucky hit. Phasers, on the other hand, should cut through EA vessels like crazy.
Forget the tech difference here. I call BS too because Picard would never fire first, or travel somewhere to "make war" against anyone unless it was the Borg. 😅
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
@@stanleydavidson6543 are you referrying to what the parody said or the real deal? Because in the real Babylon 5 universe we see Vorlon Dreadnoughts and the Thirdspace aliens have shield technology, bubble style like the federation.
This apparently nods to an second variant of the Terran empire ( originally in the 1966 original series under the episode “mirror mirror “ ) but this variant Terran empire , which was created by the idea of the Soviets had won the Cold War and ended up creating their own variant of the federation, that used trans warp to attack the Babylon 5 station ( where the ships are dark alternate universe versions of iconic ships up to enterprise E , starship status wise ) despite the fact this attack failed it throws an monkey wrench into new series canon information, to find out there’s an second Terran empire that never Fell to the Klingon/ cardassian alliance as was canon referenced in The DS9 series but this one is one that wasn’t ever defeated in that alternate dark mirror universe…
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). But yeah, it seems as if it did a nod to asecond variant of the Terran Empire - only far less murderous towards superiors.
I have a question, why did they decide they were enemies? All these my favorite universe is better than that universe. It's like Marvel and DC, there is no reason for them to fight, but fanboys demand blood.
This was great! I am definitely a Star Trek fan and I loved B5 also. Each show has technical prowess above and beyond the other. I had always thought that StarFleet's benefits were its shields and warp drive. B5's benefits were its Minbari/Vorlon technology combined. To see them fight against each other made for a different storytelling experience.
1:44 ...USS Thunderchild? Not one I'd want to mess with, that one. :D For those not in the know, HMS Thunderchild was a Royal Navy cruiser (described as a torpedo rammer, but based on evidence incorrectly so.) who, during the Martian invasion of 1898, single-handedly engaged and destroyed no less than three of the Martian tripods before being overwhelmed.
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.
First the artistry of the CG and the use of the cast member's voices was cool. However, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of both franchises. First, Starfleet's phasers, photon and quantum torpedoes are either computer guided or target locked on the target that they want to hit. Meaning the phasers and torpedoes fired by any Starfleet (or any major power in the Star Trek franchise like The Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Dominion and even most loess advanced species have computer targeting like the Hirogen and the Kazon) would very rarely miss the target. However, the most important difference between the two franchises is the transporter technologies that all of major powers in Star Trek has transporter capabilities. This would change the game. If a battle were going to break out and Starfleet ship could beam weapons and crew onto or off of any of the B5s "younger races" like Earth Alliance, The Narn the Centari and even The Minbari as none of them have any kind of shielding other then the physical hull of the ship and Babylon 5 (the station) also doesn’t have shielding. Even if the two fleets couldn’t communicate neither of them would fire unjustifiably, especially Starfleet but having made that mistake before The Earth Alliance wouldn’t attack unprovoked. The Interstellar Alliance (fledgling or nor) wouldn’t either more would The Independent Babylon 5 (just covering my bases as the uniforms on Babylon 5 are the ones Delenn/The Minbari gave The Babylon 5 crew when they declared independence and there were both White Star vessels and Earth Alliance ships are were present in the battle so nailing down the time in B5 history however it is possibly after season 4 but more likely after season 5. Oh and the Star Trek timeline is impossible to figure out, you have the Enterprise E with Voyager and Sisko command ping the Defiant, so it hast to take place after Voyager returned from the Delta Quadrant but Sisko was in the Celestial Temple, I mean the Wormhole, at that point and with a refit Constitution class ship there too those would have been retired in the 2360s but Sisko entered the wormhole in 2375. And Voyager returned to Earth in 2378. The most likely thing that would happen is, with no ability to communicate because of different technologies, no one would fire at anyone else and since both are from the planet Earth they would speak English so any Starfleet officer, likely Picard or Captain or Admiral Janeway? would beam aboard any Earth Alliance Vessel and speak to any Earth Alliance vessel’s Commanding officer and solve any problems before the shooting starts. The only species that would out right attack A Starfleet ship would be The Shadow, and that might be a fascinating fight. The Vorlons wouldn’t care but they would likely be a Starfleet ships biggest threat but the Vorlons would know that a Starfleet ship wouldn’t attack and just go on about its business.
I remember seeing this animation several years ago. on one hand its very well made, on the other the Federation is several times more advanced than the B5 earth aliance.
9:45 why i am the only single person commentimg about this amazing part? I love how the excavator(excalibur in b5 universe) takes down almost all of the torpedoes just missing one, and then the way how the music changes when the torpedo hits the ships and blows up a portion of it while the sovereing class is taking heavy fire, also i love how the music changes just in the right moment when the torpedo blows up revealing the big missing chunk of the ship and also i liked more this firing animation from star wrek of the main weapon of the exalibur class, it feels more like an energy weapon tjan in the original version, the wau how the 3 beams curves before firing insted of just being a rect and realistic laser that aims to the front of the ship, but that is just my opinion.
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade. Plus while the Earth Alliance ships may have lasers, they have other weapons which may work, like Phased Plasma Bolts. It's the technology they used for their PPGs, albeit I don't see them using it because their version is built so it doesn't hurt metallic hulls and only organic materials. And other races weapons liek the Vorlon beam may have worked.
Well... This was somewhat fun to watch. It's a little off because the tech is different. B5 is a little more "down to earth" and Star Trek always... well it's Star Trek. With energy shields and energy based weapons a fleet of Starfleet vessels should have no problems creaming this combined fleet of Omega's, White Stars and Starfuries. I don't count the Excalibur to B5 because I hate that ugly thing. B5 weapons are based on laser and plasma weapons and fusion warheads. This should prove very ineffective against modern shields and the strong hull design of cruiserlike ships like the Sovereign, Galaxy, Excelsior or Ambassador-Classes. It's really hard to compare these two francises against each other because the tech is so different. The fact that the jump gate or the singularity disables the shields in order to make this "battle" fun is a litte weird. This situation is unfair and not to mention unrealistic. Since when is Captain Picard a ruthless warmonger? Ok ok.. it Mirror Universe.. still I have a time imagine Captain Picard as a bad guy. But... I pay good money to see Janeway suffer.. just a little. A better comparison would be BSG against The Expense. Both using kinetic weapons and rockets, thick armour plating and more realistic physics if there is such a thing in Science Fiction... A fight between a battlestar and MCRN Battleship would be interesting. A little critique on the side...next time please use the full array of weapons for the B5 side. The Omega destroyer are extremely well armed with guns, cannons, mines and rockets. Something we never saw in the series because of the small budget. I'd love to see a big barrage of rocket broadsides. And B5 was upgraded with a pretty neat weapons platform in 2259 for better protection against capital ships. You used only the secondary defence grid here. Ok... enough of it. That was my two cents on that subject. Thanks for this video.
For the ships from B5, their main weapons are near enough aimed straight ahead at all times where as for star Trek ships, each weapon has arcs, (left and right & up and down) that it can fire in. If the Borg had battled the B5 ships, the B5 ships would have all been assimilated very quickly after the start of a battle
A single Runabout would likely defeat the entire Babylon 5 universe. B5 human ships work with physics, they can't make the sorts of turns and stops and starts a Federation ship can. B5 weapons are also a joke compared to Federation weapons, using lasers and projectiles. Arbitrarily removing all shielding from Federation ships means there is no fight, without the Navigation Shields Federation ships can't travel, and they will stop lasers.
No worrys, Humans ar still humans, no matter what the date. at least for 10,000 years. Any pearson who claims to be "enlighted" By AI is in a mistaken state of mind.
@@lexthelegend1455 Yeah, and? First, space is a vacuum, you don't hear screams, and secondly, if you did, you would hear the whole crew 'screaming', not one guy screaming. Kinda stupid to have that sound effect. Would have been a lot better without it.
I cannot believe I have to say this again when lots of other people did it already: this YT video is Star Trek Legacy sounds over scens of a movie whereeverything's explained: Star Wreck: In the Pirkining.
I liked it! It is interesting how Star Fleet used the same tactic Ivanova used in the battle against the Omega X destroyer fleet in B5: use a coherent fleet and then use speed to destroy a stronger, but slower fleet one ship at a time (focus fire). 13:39 Lol
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.
Star Trek 2364 to about 2409 while Babylon 5 is based between 2259 - 2262. Star-Trek has tech from hundreds of races working together while they fight against a race that doesn't even have artificial gravity. such a ridiculous comparison. Still fun to watch.
The VFX are respectble. Your effort to preent something visually appealling is admirable. This stuff ain't easy, so thank you for giving the community something to bite on. howeverm the dialogue really leaves much to be desired (putting it nicely). Maybe folks can come together to help create a stpry worthy of all of the VFX wrk done here?? I'm willing to help.
Thank you but I'm afraid I didn't make the animation, the original video is from energiaproductions as stated in the credits. I edited with all the sound affects but the visuals themselves aren't mine, apologies if I didn't make it clear. Assistance for endeavors like this would be appreciated though
Ya the genius Russian who made that was also responsible for Iron Skies. THAT COMRADE is a Legend! I love how he literally created a Soviet Terran Empire. And the ship names are Pure Comedy. YOu Got the Omega-Class Backgammon, the Victory-Class Mk V Excavator and plenty of other halarious names.
When an entire fleet loses shields, the vessels with ablative armor should take point. Flank the enemy with the larger ships and punch holes in enemy grouping with the smaller ones... Rip them a new one, the Straczynski shot first...
Total "BERMAN" Tactical Stoopidness. Just as Effective as the Florida Gov. on Covid! JUST WARP AWAY, Circle, then talk/or/Kill. Idiots at War, need killing. Or Covid without masks..
Personally I enjoyed seeing a constitution with a sovereign class ship on screen with their respective roles. The over all battle was very Intense and brutal.
Clearly B5 fanboys. Photons moving so slow they get dhot down. Magically losing shields Forgetting the warships have Hull armour. Or the biggest difference Starlet weapon lock onto key systems like engines and weapons not just fire blindly.
@@duvetofreason16 Well earthforce is still using pulse cannons with 200mW power and laser batteries vs Starfleet duranium and tritanium alloy also sovereign have ablative armor specifically to absorb energy weapons, defiant have it so flagship would have it also for sure. and also speed formula for photon torpedoed is vmax = V1 + 0.75V1/c so at that distance it should be almost instant hit they are specifically constructed to be fast and have massive range 3.5 million kilometres and also have crazy high yield 25 isotons just shockwave from destroyed torpedo will be enough to vaporize all earth ships no chance survive direct hit with just small hole while their lasers are cutting thru sovereign like nothing. But is we forget ST technology it is nice battle great animation etc.
Should have called in the Rangers, but truth be told the minbari were suppose to be there because they were the reason for the station to be created in the first place
People in comments arguing with some saying that Star Trek ship are much more powerful, and other saying that B5 ones are. But do we actually know how powerful either ones are?(like in tnt equivalent). We know that basically any Stargate ships(even wraith) would absolutely crush both, but I haven't seen estimations of ST and B5 power levels
Because trek has ships that have shielding as well as weapons that accurately hit their targets from tens of thousands of kilometers away. This fight shouldn't even be close. Earth doesn't even have artificial gravity or inertial dampners untill the end of the series in B5.
@@awesomemccoolname7111 while range seems to be on the side of Star trek(few hundred thousand km vs tens thousand km), it does not automatically victory. Having shields definitely doesn't mean victory if both ships can shoot. Lack of artificial gravity can be explained by differences in physic laws. The dampeners however can be tricky, as it would mean B5 ships wouldn't be able to accelerate fast, while Star trek ships would be
@@jimmcneal5292 sorry but are you forgeting that the whitestars and starfurys far more manuverable than any starfleet ship even the delta flyer would not be able to compete
An awesome show. A beautiful use of graphic and practical effects. I loved it. Too bad it 2 fleets of the good guys, pitted against each other. Maybe you can do one that has them joining forces, against the BORG, or the SHADOWS.
Look, this was a film made for fun, for the heck of it. Two different universes, just tossed into one, and going at it. Starting technical debates on who would win, this and that and so on, is just silly. Take it for what it is, simple fun.
The video is based from a comedy/parody movie called Star Wreck in the Pirkining everything is explained there. All the "Starfleet" ships you see are actually 21st century shallow copies taken from the memories of a wannabe Data and constructe with Russian machinery. And the Babylon 5 parody timeline (in the movie) is wrecked because we can see a Vorlon and the Excalibur within days. So yeah just enjoy the fun (albeit the full movie explained a lot more, it's like the Harry Potter books, the movies condensing the action makes holes appear which weren't in the book).
This is, for the most part, from "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning"; an excellent parody / original story aimed at both Star Trek and Babylon 5. See the original linked in the description, from Energia Productions.
The Starfleet armada would easily obliterate the B5 ships, just beam a torpedo next to a B5 ships engine core and detonate or if using any ship from Star Trek, just send in a handful of Borg cubes
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force. And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
By the way iff they still had there shields then Starfleet whould have won anyway but i think the defiants against the whitestars whould have bin a good match becausse both are more or less warvessel
Lost shields before the fight even began? Guess you had to make it easier for the enemies? Lots of the flying in formation by the Federation ships didn't seem very plausible or the wasting of all of the torpedos. Ehhh 4/10 for the storyline
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force. And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
So many Russians in Starfleet... "USS Vladimir - ve're out of fuel and ve chave nothing to eat!" "Commodore Prokoviev to landing party: Take all the toilets you can get your chands on!" "Zey vill velcome us as liberato...*connection lost*"
"Zey are towing the USS. Paprika avay vith traktor!" - "Zey chave traktor biems?!?" - "No! I mean viz ze aktshual traktor! Four vheels! Brrrmmm! Brrrmmm!""
I kept expecting the Minbari to swoop in with their angelfish ships. That would have neatly turned the tide. You worked hard on this, and I was surprised how good it was
Right, those ships would have withstood a torpedo, especially one that could phase through matter or a quantum torpedo or a tricobalt device or torpedo beamed right onto the bridged. Maybe they could have used their techno magic to repel those torpedoes. You should look up the range the Federation ships can engage from and their speed and how strong their armor is vs laser fire before you open your mouth. Those ships wouldn't even be able to keep up with any of the Federation ships and wouldn't even be able to hit their hull let alone scratch it. The only way this could be worse if it were directed by Rian Johnson.
Please read the video description and the other comments - it states it is based on afinnish fanwork called Star Wreck in the Pirkining - those ships are not Federation vessels, but attempts at reverse-engineering done with 21st century russian technology, and they are not manned by a Federeation crew, either. The CGI are all Star Wreck's, too.
well whoever made this clearly wasnt biased at all. i mean all trek ships magically just loose their sheilds the enterprise and defiant never once use quantum torps and some how a heavily outdated connie class survives the battle, fan boy bias is obvious in this one
Babylon 5 battle tactics clearly weren't utilized here either. Ships were flying around in a clueless way. Babylon 5 fleets usually form up and hit them hard. This was rather lackadaisical compared to a usual Babylon 5 space battle.
This is certainly an interesting take to translate this Fanfilm into English, while cutting out most of the acting and keeping all the epic pew pew intact.
theres a "music video" version of the star wreck footage out there with the typical of the period grunge-y heavy metal music. Not saying i hate the soundtrack but you know how it was in the early 2000's, right? lol
I think you guys are missing the big picture. Granted, Starfleet ships are much more advanced than Earth Alliance ships. I find it hard to believe that they would just go in guns blazing without first analyzing the situation. Yeah, a lone fighter did fire on a Starfleet ship but that hardly warrants a war with other humans from another universe. It just doesn't seem very believable but then again this is Star Trek VS Babylon 5, not Star Trek meets Babylon 5.
Yeah, thats why the producer needed to cut off the first and biggest advantage, the shields right after emergence from Hyperspace,..but still there are transporters, so you are so right!
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.
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1. ST's photon and quantum torpedoes have anti-matter warheads
2. ST has transporter technology: they can simply bean warheads aboard enemy ships, if not boarding parties and other
3. Energy shields and impulse drives
4. Phaser banks that can quickly target enemy ships at almost 360 degree angles (depending on coverage)
5. Warp capability without needing to open a hyperspace gate
Agreed, B5 ships wouldn't stand a chance against a starfleet vessel. A grain of sand would hit like rail gun on steroids while a starship was traveling at warp speeds, but does nothing to their navigational shields. The only thing that a B5 jump drive equipped ship could do is hope to damage or cripple a starfleet vessel with the "bonehead maneuver" (opening a second jump point in a active jump gate and run, most likely not fast enough hence bonehead).
OK, then Lita will wipe all their minds and leave them screaming in a fetal position.
@@pfksr64 I will see Lita Alexander and raise you Guinan. In the words of John Sheridan "Your not the only one thats been touched by the Vorlons!" Or in Guinan's case the nexus. Also Guinan is a "bit" more handy with a phaser than John is with a PPG.
@@pfksr64 ST universe also has telepaths. Perhaps not as strong as telepaths are portrayed in BS5 universe, but probably strong enough to block BS5 telepaths. And Data is an android, immune to telepaths.
@@BrianKatakowski that be a good scene seeing guinan repelling border's with her rifle in 10 forward shouting insult s .at them
yer im a huge B5 fan but the tech difference would be insurmountable. shadows and vorlons might give them some trouble though.
I agree
@@craigstalmer2825
Not really
In Stargate universe, the Wraith countered Asgard beaming by jamming
In Trek, it has been shown that there are ways to jam transporters without shields
So yes initially B5 would have problems but they can learn to counter
@@verdebusterAP This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody).
And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
I think B5 with its white star fleet would take out alot of ST ships. The white stars must be the one of the best ships in both universe's. It just looks the part.
Add a couple of Mimbari heavy cruisers and a Vorlon or two and this would be a short fight.
Ingenious use of Star Trek: Legacy audio and effects. I can definitely appreciate the time and effort that went into re-dubbing this animation.
Redesigned, refitted for...... ..soo could still look pretty for you??,
A lot of comments about the shields, in case someone is wondering: "Shields won`t be installed until Tuesday!"
That´s why i just gonna lean back and enjoy this Science Fiction crossover epicness.
ps.: That Earthcruiser is called "Backgammon" :D 6:08
This YT video was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babel 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody... or at least ... was that the name? I quite forgot after reading the comments).
In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside").
So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.
And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
I don't know why both fans are going balls to the walls "uhm actually!" this was originally a goof film made by fans for fans.
The nerd in me calls BS. Starfleet ships had shields, phasers, quantum torpedos and in many cases ablative armor. The B5 ships had inferior weapons and no shielding. Notice how no star fleet ships seemed to have any shielding? They had to nerf them in order to make it an even fight.
Star fleet would have absolutely annihilated the B5 ships with barely a scratch.
All starfleet ships lost shields after going through the worm hole. Probably to level playing field.
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody).
And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
So that shows how even walmart copies of star trek ships can still give a run of their money agaisnt the non-First Ones set of ships.
Is strong original with the winner. As shown in most of these videos Babylon 5 ships are able to intercept coming torpedo's .
@@greggg4011 Except at FTL speeds, obviously XD
You know I'm glad you said that because I never paid attention to scanner ranges...what is their scanner range?
Star trek next generation ships would wreak havoc on the Earthforce but would get slammed by the older races technology in Babylon 5.
Starfleet firepower would likely decimate anything that the humans of B5 could come up with, especially without shields (why did the Federation ships lose shields at the beginning of this?). The Defiant vs. a White Star would be interesting though, and you can't have B5 properly represented without the Mimbari showing up. Dalen appearing with a Mimbari fleet and sending them on their way would have been a fantastic way to end this showdown.
my guess is that the Jump Gate overloaded the Shield Emitters, also, would the Minbari destroy ships so close to B5 especially when we have a fair idea of what warp core breaches do, and they would too upon the Galaxy class ship exploding...man..Keogh just can't catch a break.
Two points I'd say to the question of why the Federation ships don't have shields. I remember fondly back in the day, debating Star Trek vs everything else, and I went pretty deep into it.
Federation ships seem to frequently lose their shields as soon as a big battle starts. See DS9: Sacrifice of Angels, or the battles of Wolf 359 and Sector 001. Between the three battles, I only saw two Federation ships take shield hits, one being the Enterprise E. I suspect in large, pitched battles, most ships redirect shield power to weapons, or more likely my second thought:
Federation shield tech operates by using a phase modulation field, which blocks the wave patterns of things like lasers, phasers and photonic weapons, unless the weapon frequency matches. However, that really only works on light-based weapons. Again, lasers, phasers (photon-microwave lasers), and photon torpedoes. They are notably worse, if even capable of it at all, at blocking plasma based weapons. Disruptors in Star Trek are, as I understand it, plasma particle weapons that are carried by laser/phaser beams. Babylon 5 ships appear to use plasma based weapons, without laser carriers.
Side note: Star Wars weapons, despite being called 'lasers', behave in such a way as to indicate that they're not lasers, but also plasma weapons.
Edit: I see there's some dialogue included talking about the shield loss. I dunno what caused that in the original video, or if the dialogue was added to explain it. Also I wouldn't put too much faith in the dialogue, as it's ridiculously inconsistent.
@@TheOtherGuys2 I get that but the 3 examples you used aren't the best
Sacrifice of Angels, the Dominion already knew how to punch through federation shielding. If the defiant mentioned shields in dialogue then I can only assume either slip-up for budget
For Wolf 359, using Picard's knowledge, the Borg were able to bypass Federation shields entirely and one tap ships at will.
At first contact, those ships were fighting for several days straight, we can only presume each of those starfleet vessels were already heavily battle damaged, I.E. the Defiant, as she was fighting at almost every line the Borg had approached.
@@lexthelegend1455 At Wolf 359, Picard wouldn't have known each individual ship's shield frequency. I think in that case the Borg just overpowered the Federation ships. But even so, their shields ostensibly should have been there to be overpowered.
Anyway, those are the only big fleet battles in Star Trek I can think of. Do you have other examples? (I haven't actually seen most of DS9, to be fair.)
@@TheOtherGuys2 I think the reason for not giving shields to Federation ships is obvious. It would have been a boring bloodbath if Federation ships where using their shields. Without shields is a more balanced battle.
And no one, NO ONE will choose to lower shields in the middle of a battle. Also the idea of plasma weapons bypassing shields comes with a logical error. if shields where incapable of stopping plasma weapons, then everyone in the Star Trek Universe would be switching to plasma weapons or at least putting a few of those next to their standard torpedoes and phasers. Then in the battle, first destroy enemy shield generators with a plasma beam, then finish enemy ship with all weapons available.
This was excellent. Not perfect. Far from but still much better than most of what I find on TV these days. Great work and hope you make more soon.
"Info, get me tactical information. Dwarf, fire twinklers and light balls!" - Captain Pirk
incredible job, I absolutely love watching the two best sci-fi franchises duke it out
Two best?
Farscape? Stargate? Old dr who? Old star wars? Battlestar Galactica?
Not knocking star trek or Babylon 5 they are great Sci fi... but the best is definitely in the eye of the beholder 😉.
I've lost count as to how many times I've watched this. Wonderfully done
How is this better than anything we’ve seen on the show? Well done!
It would be fairer if 50 Minbari "Sharlin" appeared at the end of the battle😆
This is an EXCELLENT evolution of the years ago awesome fan film!!! Thanks for putting this out with Star Trek characters's voices in there!
What killed me throughout the entire video was the fact that the sovereign class the most advanced starship in Starfleet got destroyed but the original Connie refit was still going like wait what I'm so confused right now
I love that this video looks remastered from what I saw originally over a decade ago. THank you.
Man, I love the sound effects that you edited for the Babylon 5 weapons, especially with the Omega-class at 8:16 and the Victory-class here at 9:39
Can I get the UA-cam link for the sounds?
Unfortunately, I lost the file for the victory, but I have the omega beam here
that or do you mean if you want all weapon sfx?
drive.google.com/file/d/1VF0-0xTKPojsXyQDKAkG8t_pD3H1fZ6o/view?usp=sharing
@@lexthelegend1455 I guess I need all.
@@dead.ahead_sonya.parker1 that will take some time
But it will be done
@@lexthelegend1455 Ok, nevermind, I found some Babylon 5 and Star Trek sounds by my own search and made my own Babylon 5 vs Star Trek memes. Although I really need help with something; I'm planning on making a meme where a certain popular cringe Minecraft YoutTuber gets bombarded by a Minecraft version of the USS Enterprise-E.
All I need is just the sound of
1. Sisko saying "threat neutralized" at 6:46
2. The guy saying "we've achieved our objective" at 6:58
3. And Janeway saying "goodwork, our mission objective has been achieved" at 15:48
Judging by a lot of these comments, many of you have never seen star wreck in the pirkinning. It was a fanfilm made by a couple guys in Finland way back in 2005. The original version was free.. when they decided to release a dvd of it.. and make actual money, they had to redo all of the special effects with new ships/stations. So pretty much what you are seeing is now 15-16year old effects.. pretty good for back then actually.
4:30 Jesus that many photon torpedoes would have blown up the entire 1st and 2nd season of Babylon 5 lol.
The closest comparison from Star Trek I can think of offhand is when the Romulans and Cardassians attacked the 'Founders Homeworld'. 30 percent of the planetary crust was destroyed in the opening volley. Hell of a lot of damage. Realistically I think Earth Force, even with the help of the Rangers, are pretty much screwed.
Except Earth Alliance ships are armed with point defense that can shoot down incoming energy bursts. They are specifically the only B5 star nation to have such weaponry. Torpedos should be mostly useless except for the odd lucky hit. Phasers, on the other hand, should cut through EA vessels like crazy.
It is INSANE that the animations and FX were made in 2005 - kudos to that team.
Forget the tech difference here. I call BS too because Picard would never fire first, or travel somewhere to "make war" against anyone unless it was the Borg. 😅
Janeway would genocide entire population of any species in a wink of an eye 😂
@@O-.-O only if they kept her from her coffee. She's fairly middle of the road most other days though.
You mean to tell me that Geordi laforge, B'Elanna Torres & the space wizard himself Miles O'Brien wasn't able to get those shields back online!?! BS!
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody).
In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside").
And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
Shields don't work in Babylon 5 universe
@@stanleydavidson6543 are you referrying to what the parody said or the real deal?
Because in the real Babylon 5 universe we see Vorlon Dreadnoughts and the Thirdspace aliens have shield technology, bubble style like the federation.
I was thinking the exact same thing
Beautiful video! Regardless of which series one is a fan of, the SFX work was fantastic.
Yeah, they did a great job, especially with no funding
This apparently nods to an second variant of the Terran empire ( originally in the 1966 original series under the episode “mirror mirror “ ) but this variant Terran empire , which was created by the idea of the Soviets had won the Cold War and ended up creating their own variant of the federation, that used trans warp to attack the Babylon 5 station ( where the ships are dark alternate universe versions of iconic ships up to enterprise E , starship status wise ) despite the fact this attack failed it throws an monkey wrench into new series canon information, to find out there’s an second Terran empire that never Fell to the Klingon/ cardassian alliance as was canon referenced in The DS9 series but this one is one that wasn’t ever defeated in that alternate dark mirror universe…
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody).
In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside").
But yeah, it seems as if it did a nod to asecond variant of the Terran Empire - only far less murderous towards superiors.
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They also made "Iron Sky" movie about ww2 survivors of 3rd Reich hiding in a moonbase on the dark side of the moon(?).
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Some lovely destruction all around! Nice piece of work!
I have a question, why did they decide they were enemies?
All these my favorite universe is better than that universe.
It's like Marvel and DC, there is no reason for them to fight, but fanboys demand blood.
I like this version alot , very nicely done #1
This was great! I am definitely a Star Trek fan and I loved B5 also. Each show has technical prowess above and beyond the other. I had always thought that StarFleet's benefits were its shields and warp drive. B5's benefits were its Minbari/Vorlon technology combined. To see them fight against each other made for a different storytelling experience.
1:44 ...USS Thunderchild? Not one I'd want to mess with, that one. :D
For those not in the know, HMS Thunderchild was a Royal Navy cruiser (described as a torpedo rammer, but based on evidence incorrectly so.) who, during the Martian invasion of 1898, single-handedly engaged and destroyed no less than three of the Martian tripods before being overwhelmed.
What we expected the Dominion war would be.
why are they fighting in the first place? not really esablished
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody).
In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside").
So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.
This is fun, love the efforts involved.
I didn't think this battle could get any better. Thanks for proving me wrong!
First the artistry of the CG and the use of the cast member's voices was cool. However, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of both franchises. First, Starfleet's phasers, photon and quantum torpedoes are either computer guided or target locked on the target that they want to hit. Meaning the phasers and torpedoes fired by any Starfleet (or any major power in the Star Trek franchise like The Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Dominion and even most loess advanced species have computer targeting like the Hirogen and the Kazon) would very rarely miss the target. However, the most important difference between the two franchises is the transporter technologies that all of major powers in Star Trek has transporter capabilities. This would change the game. If a battle were going to break out and Starfleet ship could beam weapons and crew onto or off of any of the B5s "younger races" like Earth Alliance, The Narn the Centari and even The Minbari as none of them have any kind of shielding other then the physical hull of the ship and Babylon 5 (the station) also doesn’t have shielding. Even if the two fleets couldn’t communicate neither of them would fire unjustifiably, especially Starfleet but having made that mistake before The Earth Alliance wouldn’t attack unprovoked. The Interstellar Alliance (fledgling or nor) wouldn’t either more would The Independent Babylon 5 (just covering my bases as the uniforms on Babylon 5 are the ones Delenn/The Minbari gave The Babylon 5 crew when they declared independence and there were both White Star vessels and Earth Alliance ships are were present in the battle so nailing down the time in B5 history however it is possibly after season 4 but more likely after season 5. Oh and the Star Trek timeline is impossible to figure out, you have the Enterprise E with Voyager and Sisko command ping the Defiant, so it hast to take place after Voyager returned from the Delta Quadrant but Sisko was in the Celestial Temple, I mean the Wormhole, at that point and with a refit Constitution class ship there too those would have been retired in the 2360s but Sisko entered the wormhole in 2375. And Voyager returned to Earth in 2378. The most likely thing that would happen is, with no ability to communicate because of different technologies, no one would fire at anyone else and since both are from the planet Earth they would speak English so any Starfleet officer, likely Picard or Captain or Admiral Janeway? would beam aboard any Earth Alliance Vessel and speak to any Earth Alliance vessel’s Commanding officer and solve any problems before the shooting starts. The only species that would out right attack A
Starfleet ship would be The Shadow, and that might be a fascinating fight. The Vorlons wouldn’t care but they would likely be a Starfleet ships biggest threat but the Vorlons would know that a Starfleet ship wouldn’t attack and just go on about its business.
Nice job of editing in all the different sound effects.
Red Five standing by. Red October standing by. Red Buttons standing by.
Red Fox standing by
those rotating sections of the earth force ship would make turning a bear. - like gyroscopes
I remember seeing this animation several years ago. on one hand its very well made, on the other the Federation is several times more advanced than the B5 earth aliance.
9:45 why i am the only single person commentimg about this amazing part? I love how the excavator(excalibur in b5 universe) takes down almost all of the torpedoes just missing one, and then the way how the music changes when the torpedo hits the ships and blows up a portion of it while the sovereing class is taking heavy fire, also i love how the music changes just in the right moment when the torpedo blows up revealing the big missing chunk of the ship
and also i liked more this firing animation from star wrek of the main weapon of the exalibur class, it feels more like an energy weapon tjan in the original version, the wau how the 3 beams curves before firing insted of just being a rect and realistic laser that aims to the front of the ship, but that is just my opinion.
It may be ripped but editied so well I want to see more to the story lol. Great job over all
Well done...all in all...superb ❤
Lasers? They not even penetrate our nav. shield...
What lasers? Ain't no frigging lasers here.
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody).
And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
Plus while the Earth Alliance ships may have lasers, they have other weapons which may work, like Phased Plasma Bolts. It's the technology they used for their PPGs, albeit I don't see them using it because their version is built so it doesn't hurt metallic hulls and only organic materials. And other races weapons liek the Vorlon beam may have worked.
Why would Shields on all ships fail ?? It's the same universe same laws of physics
yeah whit shield b5 they lose so badly
another Unicerse, another physics laws.
Well... This was somewhat fun to watch. It's a little off because the tech is different. B5 is a little more "down to earth" and Star Trek always... well it's Star Trek. With energy shields and energy based weapons a fleet of Starfleet vessels should have no problems creaming this combined fleet of Omega's, White Stars and Starfuries. I don't count the Excalibur to B5 because I hate that ugly thing. B5 weapons are based on laser and plasma weapons and fusion warheads. This should prove very ineffective against modern shields and the strong hull design of cruiserlike ships like the Sovereign, Galaxy, Excelsior or Ambassador-Classes. It's really hard to compare these two francises against each other because the tech is so different. The fact that the jump gate or the singularity disables the shields in order to make this "battle" fun is a litte weird. This situation is unfair and not to mention unrealistic. Since when is Captain Picard a ruthless warmonger? Ok ok.. it Mirror Universe.. still I have a time imagine Captain Picard as a bad guy. But... I pay good money to see Janeway suffer.. just a little.
A better comparison would be BSG against The Expense. Both using kinetic weapons and rockets, thick armour plating and more realistic physics if there is such a thing in Science Fiction...
A fight between a battlestar and MCRN Battleship would be interesting.
A little critique on the side...next time please use the full array of weapons for the B5 side. The Omega destroyer are extremely well armed with guns, cannons, mines and rockets. Something we never saw in the series because of the small budget. I'd love to see a big barrage of rocket broadsides. And B5 was upgraded with a pretty neat weapons platform in 2259 for better protection against capital ships. You used only the secondary defence grid here. Ok... enough of it.
That was my two cents on that subject. Thanks for this video.
For the ships from B5, their main weapons are near enough aimed straight ahead at all times where as for star Trek ships, each weapon has arcs, (left and right & up and down) that it can fire in.
If the Borg had battled the B5 ships, the B5 ships would have all been assimilated very quickly after the start of a battle
@@leeroberts1192 Janeway destroyed entire Borg civilization with a toaster 😂
A single Runabout would likely defeat the entire Babylon 5 universe. B5 human ships work with physics, they can't make the sorts of turns and stops and starts a Federation ship can. B5 weapons are also a joke compared to Federation weapons, using lasers and projectiles.
Arbitrarily removing all shielding from Federation ships means there is no fight, without the Navigation Shields Federation ships can't travel, and they will stop lasers.
Damn Star Fleet got one hell of a handicap losing shield from the get go.
And they still stepped up pretty well.
Fukooooov! I rembember this parody from 2005 or so. Seems such a long time ago.
No worrys, Humans ar still humans, no matter what the date. at least for 10,000 years. Any pearson who claims to be "enlighted" By AI is in a mistaken state of mind.
The federation we clean the clock of B5. Imagine anything out of the B5 universe fighting the Borg.
Such an awesome video ! Good job
Coulda done with out some of the sound effects, like for example, a Starship gets blown up, it's not gonna scream...🤦
Ships are crewed
@@lexthelegend1455 Yeah, and? First, space is a vacuum, you don't hear screams, and secondly, if you did, you would hear the whole crew 'screaming', not one guy screaming. Kinda stupid to have that sound effect. Would have been a lot better without it.
@@arthurfacteau398 comms, but thank you for the suggestion
Agreed , If the comms were open you would hear the rest of the bridge crew scream too
@@sywilson73 Yeah, spare me, you would hear one guy going, 'arrrgggg...'. That was totally not needed, and would have been way better without it.
Very entertaining, great job . You have a friend in Columbus, Ohio this ohio!
I cannot believe I have to say this again when lots of other people did it already: this YT video is Star Trek Legacy sounds over scens of a movie whereeverything's explained: Star Wreck: In the Pirkining.
I liked it!
It is interesting how Star Fleet used the same tactic Ivanova used in the battle against the Omega X destroyer fleet in B5: use a coherent fleet and then use speed to destroy a stronger, but slower fleet one ship at a time (focus fire).
13:39 Lol
Did anyone else notice the ships names didn't correspond to the audio?
Because this is originally a Finnish parody where Picard is portrayed as an incompetent emperor.
Jon Luc Picard would never fire first without lagitimit cause and provocation.
He would seek a diplimatic resalution first
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining".
In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside").
So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.
amazing! no shields or quantum torpedoes, but the bablyon ship has its super weapon and shields.
Well, that was..... That was pretty good! Thanks for that! Send more please!
Star Trek 2364 to about 2409 while Babylon 5 is based between 2259 - 2262.
Star-Trek has tech from hundreds of races working together while they fight against a race that doesn't even have artificial gravity.
such a ridiculous comparison. Still fun to watch.
With STAR FLEET'S shields powers nullified, TREK ships just solid and fragile, as EARTH ALIANCE ships. Makes it virtually an even match.
Nonsense. The two sides would get together and talk it out then come to a peaceful resolution
The VFX are respectble. Your effort to preent something visually appealling is admirable. This stuff ain't easy, so thank you for giving the community something to bite on. howeverm the dialogue really leaves much to be desired (putting it nicely). Maybe folks can come together to help create a stpry worthy of all of the VFX wrk done here?? I'm willing to help.
Thank you but I'm afraid I didn't make the animation, the original video is from energiaproductions as stated in the credits.
I edited with all the sound affects but the visuals themselves aren't mine, apologies if I didn't make it clear.
Assistance for endeavors like this would be appreciated though
Taken from the film - Star Wreck ' In the Pirkinning '
Great spoof movie , and these battle scenes have been sampled loads of times over the years
Ya the genius Russian who made that was also responsible for Iron Skies. THAT COMRADE is a Legend! I love how he literally created a Soviet Terran Empire. And the ship names are Pure Comedy. YOu Got the Omega-Class Backgammon, the Victory-Class Mk V Excavator and plenty of other halarious names.
When an entire fleet loses shields, the vessels with ablative armor should take point. Flank the enemy with the larger ships and punch holes in enemy grouping with the smaller ones...
Rip them a new one, the Straczynski shot first...
The original is such a great movie. The dialogue is hilarious.
Total "BERMAN" Tactical Stoopidness. Just as Effective as the Florida Gov. on Covid! JUST WARP AWAY, Circle, then talk/or/Kill. Idiots at War, need killing. Or Covid without masks..
This was alot of fun. Bravo!
they didnt make it though.
The Great Machine of Epsilon III could have oblirated the entire Starfleet.
The best space battle I have ever seen. Please make some more.
For animation, can't say I can do it, not like this but I can still edit some
Personally I enjoyed seeing a constitution with a sovereign class ship on screen with their respective roles. The over all battle was very Intense and brutal.
Greetings from Germany to all 😄. I Love Star Trek and Star Wars. This is a good Video.Thank you for Upload.
Warum Star wars?
Clearly B5 fanboys.
Photons moving so slow they get dhot down.
Magically losing shields
Forgetting the warships have Hull armour.
Or the biggest difference
Starlet weapon lock onto key systems like engines and weapons not just fire blindly.
It's from the movie Star Wrecking, they come from another dimension and have their sheilds nullified by the transfer
@@duvetofreason16 Well earthforce is still using pulse cannons with 200mW power and laser batteries vs Starfleet duranium and tritanium alloy also sovereign have ablative armor specifically to absorb energy weapons, defiant have it so flagship would have it also for sure. and also speed formula for photon torpedoed is vmax = V1 + 0.75V1/c so at that distance it should be almost instant hit they are specifically constructed to be fast and have massive range 3.5 million kilometres and also have crazy high yield 25 isotons just shockwave from destroyed torpedo will be enough to vaporize all earth ships no chance survive direct hit with just small hole while their lasers are cutting thru sovereign like nothing. But is we forget ST technology it is nice battle great animation etc.
Should have called in the Rangers, but truth be told the minbari were suppose to be there because they were the reason for the station to be created in the first place
Highly convenient starfleet shields stopped working...hmmm
People in comments arguing with some saying that Star Trek ship are much more powerful, and other saying that B5 ones are. But do we actually know how powerful either ones are?(like in tnt equivalent). We know that basically any Stargate ships(even wraith) would absolutely crush both, but I haven't seen estimations of ST and B5 power levels
Because trek has ships that have shielding as well as weapons that accurately hit their targets from tens of thousands of kilometers away. This fight shouldn't even be close.
Earth doesn't even have artificial gravity or inertial dampners untill the end of the series in B5.
@@awesomemccoolname7111 while range seems to be on the side of Star trek(few hundred thousand km vs tens thousand km), it does not automatically victory. Having shields definitely doesn't mean victory if both ships can shoot. Lack of artificial gravity can be explained by differences in physic laws. The dampeners however can be tricky, as it would mean B5 ships wouldn't be able to accelerate fast, while Star trek ships would be
@@jimmcneal5292 I've watched both series at least 3 times (wasted youth) trek is hands down more powerful and capable.
@@awesomemccoolname7111 bruh, your last comment is not an argument at all
@@jimmcneal5292 sorry but are you forgeting that the whitestars and starfurys far more manuverable than any starfleet ship even the delta flyer would not be able to compete
You did a great job with such a difficult job. I like it
The McDonalds in the Zocolo was a nice touch.
WOW!....Just WOW....I love this. BRAVO keep up the great work guys!
What orders did the B5 station officer give? "hold fire until they nearly dock? ,, Then only fire 1 or 2 guns lol
The Picard I knew would not have fired on the Babylon 5 fighter ship but brought it on broad the Enterprise.
The battle scenes are actully pretty good here
An awesome show. A beautiful use of graphic and practical effects. I loved it.
Too bad it 2 fleets of the good guys, pitted against each other. Maybe you can do one that has them joining forces, against the BORG, or the SHADOWS.
Lmao! The Excalibur is called Excavator.
Look, this was a film made for fun, for the heck of it.
Two different universes, just tossed into one, and going at it. Starting technical debates on who would win, this and that and so on, is just silly. Take it for what it is, simple fun.
The video is based from a comedy/parody movie called Star Wreck in the Pirkining everything is explained there. All the "Starfleet" ships you see are actually 21st century shallow copies taken from the memories of a wannabe Data and constructe with Russian machinery. And the Babylon 5 parody timeline (in the movie) is wrecked because we can see a Vorlon and the Excalibur within days.
So yeah just enjoy the fun (albeit the full movie explained a lot more, it's like the Harry Potter books, the movies condensing the action makes holes appear which weren't in the book).
I would love to see a space combat game where ships from different shows can be pitted against each other. But the licencing would be impossible.
@@jkeelsnc you took the words from my mouth - and I made some videos about that on my channel.
This is, for the most part, from "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning"; an excellent parody / original story aimed at both Star Trek and Babylon 5. See the original linked in the description, from Energia Productions.
The Starfleet armada would easily obliterate the B5 ships, just beam a torpedo next to a B5 ships engine core and detonate or if using any ship from Star Trek, just send in a handful of Borg cubes
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody).
In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside").
So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.
And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
This was fun! I may have to stitch this one day as I love both shows but soooo much to say about this.....shield failed SMH 😆
By the way iff they still had there shields then Starfleet whould have won anyway but i think the defiants against the whitestars whould have bin a good match becausse both are more or less warvessel
Lost shields before the fight even began? Guess you had to make it easier for the enemies? Lots of the flying in formation by the Federation ships didn't seem very plausible or the wasting of all of the torpedos. Ehhh 4/10 for the storyline
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody).
In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside").
So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.
And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
WTF? Why would a starship fire on a fighter, a lone fighter that had tech? Anything after that is not Star Fleet.
So many Russians in Starfleet...
"USS Vladimir - ve're out of fuel and ve chave nothing to eat!"
"Commodore Prokoviev to landing party: Take all the toilets you can get your chands on!"
"Zey vill velcome us as liberato...*connection lost*"
"Zey are towing the USS. Paprika avay vith traktor!" - "Zey chave traktor biems?!?" - "No! I mean viz ze aktshual traktor! Four vheels! Brrrmmm! Brrrmmm!""
Why the heck are the Federation in combat with Earth Force.
That was fantastic.
I kept expecting the Minbari to swoop in with their angelfish ships. That would have neatly turned the tide. You worked hard on this, and I was surprised how good it was
Right, those ships would have withstood a torpedo, especially one that could phase through matter or a quantum torpedo or a tricobalt device or torpedo beamed right onto the bridged. Maybe they could have used their techno magic to repel those torpedoes. You should look up the range the Federation ships can engage from and their speed and how strong their armor is vs laser fire before you open your mouth. Those ships wouldn't even be able to keep up with any of the Federation ships and wouldn't even be able to hit their hull let alone scratch it. The only way this could be worse if it were directed by Rian Johnson.
They didn't work on this they reused star wrecks footage and added in federation voices just look at the ships it's all Russian
Please read the video description and the other comments - it states it is based on afinnish fanwork called Star Wreck in the Pirkining - those ships are not Federation vessels, but attempts at reverse-engineering done with 21st century russian technology, and they are not manned by a Federeation crew, either.
The CGI are all Star Wreck's, too.
Nicely done! :)
INDEED!!! Sir...INDEED !!! 😎🖖💯‼
This is just Star Wreck with new voiceovers spliced in. Go watch up the original, people.
Very well done. I like how he kept the combat fluid 😄
well whoever made this clearly wasnt biased at all. i mean all trek ships magically just loose their sheilds the enterprise and defiant never once use quantum torps and some how a heavily outdated connie class survives the battle, fan boy bias is obvious in this one
Babylon 5 battle tactics clearly weren't utilized here either. Ships were flying around in a clueless way. Babylon 5 fleets usually form up and hit them hard. This was rather lackadaisical compared to a usual Babylon 5 space battle.
Star_Wreck:_In_the_Pirkinning if you want to watch the movie for it
Awesome work, thank you so much for this great video.
This is certainly an interesting take to translate this Fanfilm into English, while cutting out most of the acting and keeping all the epic pew pew intact.
theres a "music video" version of the star wreck footage out there with the typical of the period grunge-y heavy metal music. Not saying i hate the soundtrack but you know how it was in the early 2000's, right? lol
I wish there was an HD version of this incredible battle! One of my favorite UA-cam videos ever!
I think you guys are missing the big picture. Granted, Starfleet ships are much more advanced than Earth Alliance ships. I find it hard to believe that they would just go in guns blazing without first analyzing the situation. Yeah, a lone fighter did fire on a Starfleet ship but that hardly warrants a war with other humans from another universe. It just doesn't seem very believable but then again this is Star Trek VS Babylon 5, not Star Trek meets Babylon 5.
Yeah, thats why the producer needed to cut off the first and biggest advantage, the shields right after emergence from Hyperspace,..but still there are transporters, so you are so right!
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody).
In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside").
So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.