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EA Fleet Vs Vorlon Dreadnought
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2014
- Fictitious battle between an Earth Alliance fleet and a Vorlon Dreadnought.
Produced using Lightwave 10.1 and Nero 11
Many thanks to the contributing modellers, Fabio Passaro, Rhys Salcombe and Skywalker for their outstanding work that made this production possible.
Enjoy, SK.
Start date : 17/6/2014
Completion Date : 26/7/2014
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After a month's graft here's my latest homage to Babylon 5
Enjoy :)
This is really nice! I would maybe opt for a more realistic background - it felt kinda bland to me, but overall amazing job! (I was looking for some Vorlon action on UA-cam and this popped out - I am satisfied.) :)
Cheers, sorry the Vorlon got toasted !!!
No, do not be. :D It was awesome. I have watched some other of your videos and it is amazing how far you have come with your skills! Loved this! :)
+Alexander Schneider Awesome job. How does one do things like that? :)
+SpacialKatana Very cool!
Wow, I was trying to remember which episode this was from before I realised it was fan made.
Awesome work!
I remember when this video first went viral in January, 2261. It gave everyone's morale a real shot in the arm!
There is one absolute and unconditional truth in the universe, Babylon 5 is the greatest television ever.
I dunno. I've heard Panasonic and Samsung make pretty good televisions, too. :p
b scar .... Well played well played :P
Amen to that brother.
You won't get no argument out of me man unlike Star Trek didn't play that Shields up shit when you got shot you got shot baby if you took on a big enough damage your ass got blown to hell and back nope no shoes up here not in this universe
Oh DS9 and SG1 were pretty strong!
I miss B5 and this brought back great memories of a great show:)
White Star Captains: "That Vorlon ship has massive forward firepower, what should we do?" "Let's approach from the front instead of flanking and pecking it to death." "Sounds good to me."
And one of the Minbari Captains thought the same thing too. The second one was smart and fired his gun at full power from close range. The earth ship is clumsy so it had to take the shot available.
Visually it is impressive, but for your next film I'd suggest someone to plot out fleet tactics for you.
+Todd Kes That's exactly what I was thinking for most of the battle. That, and concentrate your fire, which is something you pretty much never see in sci fi space battles.
Heh. You've never seen the epic battle in the B5 episode "Between the Darkness and the Light." Some stuff you definitely wouldn't do in space fleet tactics, but at one point, boy do they concentrate their firing! Still for my money one of the best space battle sequences ever put on film (along with the "Severed Dreams" episode that Maria Locke made reference to above).
But thats what Dreadnaughts were, they are the unix mentality of battle ships...do one thing well and do it good and the end of battleships were planes and torpedoboats.
YES
They concentrated fire to kill that borg cube in star trek after they had rescued picard from the borg and he gave them the coordinates to fire at.
If your EA and going up against the Vorlons, I wouldn't even bother showing up without a Warlock destroyer.
Or dozen. Or hundred =)
The thing about conflict is, that you work with what you've got.
And a change of underwear.
Warlock destroyers came after the Vorlons left the galaxy.
If this is the EA where are the 500+ freaking Auroras they always seem to have?
This is far and away the best fan made B5 I have seen. Textures are great, lighting is great. Camera work is really good. I have a ton of B5 ships modeled and ready to go. I would be curious to know what you used to do your effects. Awesome job!
+Kellhound32 Fank you very much o.O I did this a year ago, and I've learnt much since. Everything was done in Lightwave, no post. Have a look at my Whitestar Vs Galaxy Class Starship video, it'll make you chuckle :)
"I'll just fly straight into these DOOMY DOOM BEAMS OF DOOM without using any of my weapons, what could go wro-- OH MY GOD, IT BURNS!!! AAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!"
Not very exciting tactical manuevers but it was fun to watch again the jump points opening... :)
If you remember the episode where Sharidan and Ivanova visited Kosh's ship on B5, you'd also remember the ship had the ability to fire in all directions (Sharidan's chest, for example). None of that ability by Vorlon ships was shown here.
The Earth Alliance destroyer was lucky to survive that engagement.
If I remade this, it'd be better quality and have a different outcome 😉
That was awesome I loved the part where the Vorlon ship cut the Minbari Cruiser in half
This Scenes are Iconics people. This was a Good Sci Fi Show. Thanks.
Thanks Guy's, enjoyed the short film loved B5 back in the day.
Are you sure this isn't "The Interstellar Alliance vs. Vorlon Dreadnought"?
You really can't say it's the ISA fleet because it's only Whitestars, Sharlins and an Omega. At best, it's a Combined Minbari/EA/Rangers taskforce. Without a few Drazi, Vree, Brakiri and Narn ships in the mix you can't really say it's even the nascent ISA fleet of the 2nd Shadow War.
Pretty sure this is "1 EA destroyer, 2 Minbari cruisers, and a bunch of White Stars vs. Vorlon Dreadnought"
That makes more sense
Well, technically the ISA wasn't formed before the Vorlons left. This could be a rogue Vorlon ship that didn't leave, however, you are correct that it's not an EA fleet.
Oh yeah... there you have it.
This was so entertaining! Thanks.
Nicely animated! I would remind you that Vorlon ships have shields and I will forgive the phaser sounds. I actually got the chills seeing an Omega rushing into battle once more.
It'd be nice to see the 'fleet' actually shooting rather than lining up in a row to die.
Cool battle thank you for making, and posting this video.
absolutely stunning work... just one problem: Earth Alliance is literally just the Earth and its colonies. Neither Minbari cruisers nor white stars are part of the Earth Alliance! I think what you meant, was the Interstellar Alliance, that was formed at the end of the series.
We can forgive such errors, it shows how terrible the elder races are in B5 perfectly
I feel the Vorlon ships were more advanced then represented here.. they were thought of as virtually unbeatable. I feel even with the one Minbari cruiser and the White Stars drawing fire while the other two capital ships and their attending fleets flanked the dreadnought, this fight wouldn't have been this easy.
Right because in truth it would have support ships to prevent it from being surrounded and flank
that was awesome!!!!!
fantastic work here
Great eye candy! Thank you!
loads more on the channel ;)
Although EA's losses were staggering, numbers and teamwork prevailed in the face of overwhelming firepower.
Up until now I've not seen weapons capable of quick destruction of Shadow ships like the Vorlons' beams.
" overwhelming firepower" it only fired the one time lol
Things I don't understand about sci fi space battles:
Why the ships are always flying towards each other, and almost always oriented upwards in the same plane.
Why the weapons are so weak on ships that have propulsion systems that would exceed Earth's power output.
Why energy weapons would ever miss.
In B5 they actually not always fly so stupid as in other franchises. But the logic always is, they are kinda on bombing run.
By having and changing high speed they're trying to dodge plasma, kinetic, rocket weapons, which all have quite slow speed (only lasers and other *direct* energy weapons have speed of light (it's speed is also finite and they also could be dodged sometimes, if you use gravity-based sensors and distance is huge for example)).
Continuusly changing acceleration they can change their projected trajectory, so enemy would have to guess where to fire.
With weak weapons I completely agree. Stupid plot device so ships could be damaged but heroes would valiantly continue to fight despite injuries, etc,etc,etc
And even infinite-speed weapons could miss if you consider crazy ECM-like tech future can bring ^^
For example, they think it's the right spot in the Universe, but enemy ship mostly is in another dimension and stuff =)
Not sure how to put it in English correctly.... Too tired. So:
Воспринимаемая позиция врага из-за разной размерности пространства не соответствует позиции врага в его локальной размерности пространства
"The perceived position of the enemy due to the different dimensions of space does not correspond to the position of the enemy in his local space dimension"
Beautifully created. On the reality of the fight, Vorlons and Shadows were millions of years older than the Mimbari, let alone Earth alliance. I doubt anything we could throw at them would be more than ant trying to take down a human.
This is incredible, well done!
Beautifully animated! Nearly as good as the original show's effects!
Congrats Katana. That was amazing. Loved your work. :)
Well done this was fantastic effort mate, actually thought it was a clip from B5 at first. 9/10
Very very very good! Excellent battle scene.
Very good but I guess I have a little gripe, this could have used this as an opportunity to show up the features the Omega destroyer was designed with but were never shown in the series: launching the fighters from the rotating hub, using the missile ports along the side of its hull, and using the big guns unders the docking bay
It’s a crime we haven’t gotten a good Babylon 5 video game yet.
Never will.
Spectacularly impressive.
2:44 That Minibar cruiser was like "Hey WTF man?? I was just walking through!"
3:39 Another Minibar cruiser: "It`s for my bro! "
Why were those white stars sent ahead to be picked off one by one? That fleet knew it was facing a formidable opponent, so there only chance, would be to fight as a combined fleet. Otherwise, why form a fleet in the first place? This video, shows quite the opposite occuring. They really had to no business winning. The visuals were good, but the animation and movement was fairly wooden.
where is the music from its awesome and so is the video many thanks to you all for it
Im glad you told us that this is fictitious.
Much more likely: White Stars come in as scouts, the Dreadnought comes in and engages while the White Stars take evasive action. The White Stars relay the Vorlon's position to the Minbari, who form jump-points right on the Vorlon's ass, dealing heavy damage. The Omega class launches missiles at the damaged Vorlon ship while the White Stars and the two Sharlin cruisers target damaged sections with their energy weapons. A couple of nukes fired into the heart of the Vorlon ship do the trick, and everyone jumps out alive.
yes I think they would use the same tactic. The IA fleet lost a Sharlin warcruiser for what?
Damn Capt. our ships are slow. Those Minbari cruisers flew right past us like we were standing still.
Good video but how is it EA vs Vorlons?
ISA vs Vorlons would have been far more accurate.
+hildemel How would that have been 'far more accurate' when the Alliance did not even exist when the Shadow War come to a head?
*****
It didn't exist in name, but it existed in the fleet that fought both the Shadows and Vorlons.
How would White Stars and Sharlin cruisers be part of the Earth Alliance?
Seriously, I counted 1 EA ship out of about a dozen...
Lovely motion, of the cameras as well as the vehicles.
Great work!
Nice to see you here Nick (F3D) + thanks !
I mean, this is fucking awesome but I think we are underestimating the Vorlon ship. Also.... I LOVE YOU FOR MAKING THIS! LOVE B5 GREATEST TV SHOW EVER
Well done! Bravo! Only missing a voice over of Interplanetary Expeditions marking the co-ordinates of the wreckage for the special weapons division. LOL
Major problem here... that class of ship in the show is shown to have shielding. The very first shot fired in this hits the hull. Given the shields took a direct hit from a similar class of Shadow vessel in the show, I don't think a Whitestar would punch through like it didn't exist.
Let me fly right into the highly advanced laser cannons cross hairs
Выше всяких похвал. Возможно это лучшее фан видео о В5!
Awesome and very well done!
Awesome!!
Cheers
Great work! Fantastic!
Very nice - but the Dreadnaught would never be alone, and since it shrugged off attacks from the largest Shadow ships, and took out most shadow ships with ease - It would easily defend against the ships in the EA fleet, likely without even taking any damage, and wipe them out ease
Exactly my thoughs, whoever made this was not paying attention !!
Not true... a wing of white stars knocked out a vorlon listening post and that thing would have been armed to the teeth just like a dreadnaught... not to mention it has a limited firing arc and any ships getting behind it would cut it up and we all know how fast a white star can 180 and bank... (which I note wasnt a tactic used in this video) but I agree the ship would never be alone it would have support vessels with it to defe4nd its vulnerable points...
can not like this fan film enough, BRILLIANT, just Brilliant
find it hard to believe that space battles would be fought so 2 dimensionally. In space there is no up or down...rules will change.
And the show did have that happen, hell the star fury has thruster pods to allow for 360 degree movement in space.
It's kind of nice to see Earth ships and Minbari ships on the same side in battle.
"Sorry, you don't have this content unlocked. Please purchase the "EA Defense Force" DLC to continue."
Your unedited EA comment was better ;p
Yeah, but it didn't match the message they actually give you as well. Besides, there's some extra subtext in the new one for anybody that played SWtoR.
... And this second comment got edited because my cat decided to run up and tap the send button.
My best advice: Don't attack a Vorlon. Don't even think about it. Run. PS "If you destroy it, they'll just upload to a Resurrection ship!"
That was awesome! So fun to watch
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ilove this, thank you.
This honestly makes me want to go back and re-play the Freespace 2 mod "The Babylon Project"!
wonderful - looks right out of the show.
really loved it
This should be called Interstellar Alliance Fleet vs Vorlon Dreadnought, since whitestars belong to the alliance and Sharlin are Minbari
Great work on this
Fantastic work!!!
I'm surprised that the massive Vorlon ship has so few self defense weapons, and no fighter escorts. I guess their egos got the best of them. Nice CGI.
I see that the tactician is a student of the "peel off and attack one at a time" school of combat.
Beautifully done!
Well done.
personally i thought the tactics the EA fleet used were amateur, as the vorlon ship was like a dog only dangerous from the front, i'd have attacked all ships at once from the sides and rear, hence suffered no loses..good vid though
If you remember the episode where Sharidan and Ivanova visited Kosh's ship on B5, you'd also remember the ship had the ability to fire in all directions (Sharidan's chest, for example). None of that ability by Vorlon ships was shown here.
Nicely done, good quality
Cheers m8.
You knows what funny the screen time in this 3d render of the vorlon dreadnaught is 3x longer than the original in 5 seasons and 5 films combined lol
That was great. I just stumbled upon this, and it was arranged just perfect. For a while I thought I was watching a clip from the show. XD
Ever notice how they had to exit hyperspace to engage with each other rather than fight within hyperspace. Both fleets can be lying in hyperspace ready to enter the battle and yet not even be aware of each other yet individual ships can remain close enough together to see and communicate with each other and they even had episodes where they searched for spaceships lost in hyperspace.
The show explains (and shows) that hyperspace massively screws with weapons. They flat out say in the show that if you fire your shot's just as likely to turn around and hit you as it is to hit the enemy. It's impossible to predict where your weapons fire will go in hyperspace thus it's too dangerous to try and fight there.
Babylon 5 is an amazing show. The fans are dedicated, hardcore people who adore it wholeheartedly, and fans who will make an animated short battle set in the show's universe are the top kind of awesome. Massive salute to you, sir. o7
I feel it would be churlish to criticize it excessively, so I'll just say that the general feel did not match up well with the actual show and it's probably because of the cinematography being vastly different, as well as the greater length of shots and of the scene. My personal opinion ;) and it definitely has a unique feel due to that, just not that authentic B5 feel I expected.
Thank you for this!
First 'big' one I did, still new to the software. My Gorash VII remake's a lot better. Cheers !
Ahhh, I did you an injustice. I went to see that one as well as a few other newer ones, and they're much more in line with the "feel" of the show. :) Very well done! I am thoroughly impressed.
You should try making an entire movie at some point ;) call it a summer project or something.
this show is one of the best sci-fic shows out there
When did Minbar join the Earth Alliance? (great video tho)
This looks better than the actual show
You're too kind. Thanks.
Does anybody here remember how the first US - Iraq War ended? Horrible bloodbath for the Iraqi army, which was barely able to inflict casualties on the American forces at all. In that case, the technological gap was one of a few decades. But Earth force ships are going to win a battle against an enemies millions of years more advanced? Science fiction is interesting. I'm not going to argue about whether or not that outcome is true to the show, but it's certainly wildly implausible.
Many who have watched the B5 show a dozen times a dozen, Knows very well that the time The Shadows lost a battle, a Human was sent 1,000 Years Into The Past To Cut their military Might down To A manageable size, a Telepath jammed one of their ships, they were ambushed by the Vorlons, they were ambushed by Sheridan alliance of ships who had even more Telepaths and They were lured to a well prepared battle-field, WHERE they were force to engage another First-One, as well as an Alliance of lesser advance ships, where the Vorlons got their Planet Killer Toast By Other First-Ones....But I recall Once The Shadows Planet Killer Came into Play, It was Game Over....Even The Almighty Other First Ones Did Not fuck with That Planet Killer.
And Dont Bring Up That Water down Version The Drakh Used In Call To Arms ( Suckers barely Knew How To Operate The Thing and One Test On Daltron VII and They thought they were Ready)...If It werent For Those Vorlon/Minbari/Human Hybrid ships-( Victory and Excalibur) Earth was Fuck Six Ways From Sunday....
White Stars use Vorlon technology.
Yeah, I've often thought the same thing. Consider, the Mimbari were involved in taking out the Shadows the first time when it was about 1250 A.D. in earth time. Considering the Mimbari were fighting battles in space when human development was in the Middle Ages, well...………..They'd be so far ahead of us it isn't even funny. And the Vorlons were superior in tech to the Mimbari. it's just another one of those things where it's best not to think too much. Kind of like the Matrix movies, they made no sense to me. What was the point? The earth's surface was devastated beyond repair. So what was the purpose of the war? Free people...……..for what? Where are they going to go once the machines were defeated?
fighting a vorlon ship is like a bunch of renaissnance galleons and maybe a WW1 gunboat vs. a WW1 dreadnought
Built with the Star Trek Legacy game as a base i believe. as per the general look and the sound effects.
The price was high for the destruction of one ship! Even though their ship was destroyed I give the win to the Vorlons.
Did the Earth Alliance and the Vorlon Empire have a falling out?
Not to poke a hole in the video, but why are there Minbari and EA ships fighting alongside each other?They never did that, save for when B5 broke away from the EA - and that was only a small fraction of Minbari ships loyal to Delenn and her crusade, not the entire Minbari Federation as a whole.
Battle for Earth.
i totally thought u ment EA as the company for a moment and not Earth Alliance
That 'EA' does need a right spanking from the Vorlons
I think you are meaning ISA Fleet, Interstellar Alliance, EA is Earth Alliance (only humans)
Sheridan became president of ISA as well as Entil'Zah (Ranger One) later in the series
Great video! looking forward to more!! I really miss B5!!
Awesome. Just goes to show, even having superior tech, and a bigger ship does not win over insurmountable odds. Even the Shadows knew to attack with a few ships of their own and then had smaller ships to distract and cause chaos.
Did you mean the ISA? Earth alliance didn't have access to white stars and the minbari
EA ships are hundreds of thousands of years behind Vorlon tech. In reality, they couldn't even scratch the skin of a Vorlon ship no more then caveman could arm a modern tank.
Great video. Great audio. But isn't this more of an ISA fleet vs Vorlon? I see an EA Omega. 2 Minbari Sharlin and scads of Whitestars.
That's a good simulation of Battle between the combined forces and the Vorlon.
Really good. Next time try some extreme close ups showing occupants of various craft falling out into space after their vessels break apart.
No Vorlons were harmed in the making of this video.
Problem #1. What's with the 'whooshing' sound? They're in space, there's no sound in space.
#2. That''s not the Earth Alliance. EA has only Human engineered ships. If anything, that's an Interstellar Alliance fleet.
#3. Vorlon tech is about a Billion years ahead of Human tech. That Earth Force ship's lasers has as much chance of harming a Vorlon ship as a single ant has of killing you by throwing a rock.
Millions not billions. In the show Shadows are older and higher in tech than Vorlons yet they can be harmed and killed by younger race's tech.
Several times in the series, the old ones were described as "billions of years ahead of us". Then they reveal that the shadows and vorlons are both "old ones" (considered two of the old races).
And I agree. They killed both Vorlons and shadows far too easily. Consider the conquistadors V. the Aztecs. And that was a tech difference of just a couple hundred years. And we never did see one of the shadow infantry in combat. It should have been a slaughter.
And that's another thing about B5. They regularly underestimated populations by about 1000.
The Vorlons were a race of immortals. Therefore their organic ships were also very durable. JMS said that because of that, the Vorlon ships were a mismash of technologies, with the ancient technology still floating around. The old antiquated stuff was used because the Vorlons did not take any of the young races seriously. Their newest tech was engaged elsewhere for more important tasks somewhere else--perhaps fighting the Walkers of Sigma (who disliked the Vorlons for some prior reason), not dealing with EA ships. Some of the ships might have been a million years old. Also, the Earth force intelligence was ultra limited. Imagine we run into an alien civilization spread out across the galaxy billions of years older. With only one reference point of contact in time and space, how much of it's history and inner working would stay forever hidden.
You go have fun turning off the sound in every space battle you see on TV ;) It's called entertainment.
jdlech billions in an evolutionary scale maybe but technologically they were a million/s of years ahead of us. Every source says they achieved jump point tech 1 million years ago.
Love it well done
Nicely done! Just been noodling around, rewatching old clips, and didn't realize this was a fan edit! So, kudos on quality, but would you explain WHY Minbari, White Star and EA destroyers would mixing it up with the Vorlons? I don't remember any plot twists that would account for that.
There is a scene in the series, where Sheridan's forces attack a Vorlon outpost to draw them into the fight. This could have been part of that...
I would pay for this to become a actual game
Try Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 2 it isn't B5 universe, but it is very very close.
Amazing! Great work!
B5 was the greatest!
This woulda been great on the show! Nicely done.
Phaser sound effects LOL
White Stars were co-developed by the Minbari and the Vorlons; White Stars are tough for their size. With telepaths aboard to disable a Shadow cruiser, a White Star could destroy one. The same tactic would not work on a Vorlon ship; however, Vorlon ships are vulnerable to wolfpack or mass flanking attacks. Their main weapon has a 270 degree arc of fire, approximately, but it does not have any weapons that cover its rear arc. The main difficulty fighting Vorlon ships are their ability to absorb and dissipate the energy from most weapons and their vastly superior ECM/ECCM/Fire control. Against a true EA fleet, composed of Omegas, Starfuries, and Thunderbolts, a Vorlon dreadnaut would wipe most of them, if not all of them, from the skies before it could be overwhelmed. Against this mixed Minbari/Ranger fleet, a Vorlon dreadnaut operating alone would be destroyed. I'm not even counting the single Omega because frankly, it contributed nothing to the battle.
Tarek Okail we never actually saw the vorlon dreadnaught getting killed in the series so we can’t be sure what it takes to kill it. We did see in one battle how well it was able to absorb a shadow vessel’s laser with its front laser. The question is what if it was hit from it’s backside, how much energy can it’s organic skin absorb. I’m sure it’s much more (many orders of magnitude) than what a white star can handle.
The Dreadnought would also been escorted by other Vorlon vessels. This engagement would have been over in minutes with the Vorlons slaughtering the EA and Minbari . Sheridan used Nukes to damage the Vorlon and Shadow vessels .
4-5 battle crab shadow barely light damage Vorlon Dreadnaught
Wow did not expect to see the Vorlon starship get destroyed!
Honorharringtonfan Well it was outnumbered and with enough ships and firepower, even a Vorlon warship can be destroyed. We have seen the same thing with Shadow ships, which are on par with the vorlons
+Lightingwarrior In the entire run of Babylon 5 whe never saw a Vorlon Ship go under withou First One aid.
A Shadow Battlecrab firing at a Vorlon Dreadnought didn´t do any damage.
***** You only saw like two battles involving the Vorlon warship, that isn't much, especially when you compare the numerous battles we have seen of Shadow warships, so of course never saw a Vorlon Ship go under without First One aid. But that doesn't mean they can't be destroyed, especially if they come under enough fire, Sheriden said it himself no ship is unbeatable, everything has its weaknesses and limits.
The Shadows were on par with the Vorlons an if their major warships can be destroyed after being hit enough times, so can a Vorlon
The shadow warships shown in the show are not on par with Vorlon ships are vorlon use their true ship all the time while the Shadows used dumbed down version of their ships against the young races. As a matter of fact even a transport of the vorlons can destroy easily a shadow battleship while we haven't seen any vorlon ship been destroyed even by the shadows.
+Hassan Timite, That's simple speculation, there is no proof of that