Project BMW Z4 ///M Coupe - GQM Garage
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2017
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I was looking for a fun and fast convertible that I could DD and occasionally track. I was dead set on an AP2 S2000, but everyone I test drove I just couldn't fall in love with it. Coming from a Miata, the S2000 felt heavier but not any faster until 6k-8k rpm. The S2K was also more cramped than the Miata. I was getting so frustrated, and finally a friend suggested the Z4M roadster (convertible version of the Z4M coupe). Man, I was immediately impressed with the Z4M roadster. It has the S54 from the E46M3, and makes the same 333hp with 6 ITBs. Yet it has a lighter chassis at just under 3200lbs (roadster). Its one of the stiffest roadster chassis, so it handles great. Has very responsive power steering rack. Downsides.... the hood is super long and looks like a penis. But its very fast, handles great, has the M3 CSL competition brake package with floating rotors, and can be easily lightened with APEX 18x9.5" wheels (-25lbs), an Odyssey battery (-25lbs), headers and custom single 3.5" exhaust (-80lbs) and get close to 3000lbs.
I can safely say the Z4M roadster is way more car than an S2K, and priced about the same (due to insane S2K fanboi tax) even though it is far more rare than the S2K. Truly a very underrated and underappreciated car.
Actually just sold my s2k recently and bought a z4m coupe. The s2k is still the more raw car and was amazing to drive with a mild supercharger setup but the z4mc is just better at everything else. More usable power, more space, and more comfortable on the street. Haven't taken it to autx or the track yet but it just feels like a slightly heavier but beefier s2k so far.
Great content,a real driver talking in our language,I'm sold Thanks,saving for the Z4 coupe 3.0 si as of now get in :-)
I have a Z4 coupe but it isn't M . My dad had a Z3 coupe and driving the Z3 is what made me fall in love with the coupe editions of these cars
The non-M is still a really cool car! Nothing wrong with them :)
Never thought much about these, but since having a m140 and knowing more about bmw engines, starting to appreciate them more and more
Had my attention from start to finish (which is saying something) informative and frank with some good detail, thankyou for sharing. Hope to have my own soon.
Thank you! Good luck in your hunt for one!
finally!!! been waiting on this one!! thanks for sharing all this
Yes! Anytime!!
Sweet video! Can't wait to see progress👍🏽👍🏽
Thank you!
Excellent video mate, very informative.
Only found your channel yesterday...love it. 😃
Keep up the good work and good luck growing your subs 👍
Thank you Ray 👍
We actually have a BMW M Coupe Z4 and we love driving it, the best part about it is they didn't make a whole lot of these cars so they really truly are unicorns in their own right. I never see another z4m on the road while I'm driving which is nice. The performance on this car is amazing especially for being 10 year old. I have. Out performed all other cars with the exception of current-day M BMWs. This car it totally worth it so if you can find one I suggest buying it the suspension on these things are a beast
I bought custom order in 2006 based on the magazine reviews with no test drive - incredible looks and raw (for a BMW) - interlagos, carbon leather black - get looks, thumbs up, high fives every time I drive it. I switched to an M4 (sucks in comparison) as my daily when this hit 30k because it's such a special car - apex of old school BMW ... and rare! Thanks so much for sharing!
Awesome Matt! Thank you!
You’re 100% correct about the oil being too thick, that’s why redline 5w50 has been a much better alternative
Thank you!
very nice car. love the little BMW's. One of my friends dad has one of the 98 M 2 seater z4. loved the deep dish wheels on the rear of those.
Nice man. When I was younger, I was really into hatchbacks and the Z3 M Coupe was like the ultimate hatch in my eyes back then lol
Still is man, the angriest hatch in the world.
Great video! I've had my Z4M coupe now for over 2 years and usually by now I would have got rid and moved onto my next car. But this car is special and i honestly don't see myself selling it.
They really are! There will definitely be a demand for these cars since they are so rare and have the last of the great S54s.
Great review, very thorough and thoughtful, and nice choice of mods. I just picked up an 06 Z4M roadster and already have some PSS10s, poly RTABs, APEX ARC8 in a square setup coming. Just got a tune (from Tech Tuning by Frank Smith - TTFS) with no engine mods and picked up about 20-30whp throughout the rev range and it dramatically improved throttle response. These cars are definitely impressive even to non BMW fanbois, and are so under appreciated.
Awesome. Congrats man!
Thanks for the great Video. I love the M Coupe! Its such a great car. I am looking quite a while for a good one. Seems they are getting more expensive. Anything you recommend to pay attention to when looking at a car?
Thanks for posting the video! :)
Anytime!
Beautiful car.
Thank you!
Its a shoe, thats what it is. Either get Z4 roadster or e46 m3
Omnomnom much salt
Wolfillicious why id be salty? I am well past these 10k crap cars
+DuBstep115 haha 10k for a z4 M what u smokin boi
Nice review. I love this car.
Thanks Gerhard. You might like this video I just released with my Z4M vs E46 M3 ua-cam.com/video/pkV3T0joV_Q/v-deo.html
Your videos have temporarily converted me from only having owned Mazdas in the past to purchasing my new to me BMW Z4M coupe! Picking it up this weekend and hoping its everything I expect it to be!
Awesome man, congratulations! 👍👍👍
Thanks! Looking forward to more videos for sure! Not too many quality videos out there on the vehicle. Keep it up!
Michael Cohen so far so good man! Everything is still very tight at 55k, obviously the high reving s54 is nice and I love the roof as Quinn mentioned. The double bubble gives you tons of head room and I’m 6’1.
Great review. Answered a lot of questions about this model.
Thank you!
I always wanted one of these..... Your collection of cars is impressive sir.
Why thank you ::thumbsup::
@the slip angle Hello and greetings from Greece!
I always had (and love) Japanese cars. However I'm seriously considering buying a BMW E86 3.0si for many of the same reasons you mention in this video.
Coming from the amazingly predictable and easy to drift Mazda Rx8, how would you compare the Z4 coupe? I hear that it is a bit "snappy", and I expect this due to the short wheelbase, but is it also predictable beyond the limit? Or not?
Is it fun to drift/slide or is it on the scary side? Is it controllable without sweating too much?
Also, any comments about the feeling of the rear breaking away while sitting almost on the rear axle? I hear it is an "interesting" feeling...
Thanks, and Keep up the great vids!
What a gem.
Thank you
where in New England are you?
Love the car and have one myself. BMW makes a shifter knob that is a bit heavier, a bit shorter, and has an aluminium ring around the bottom. Highly recommend it, it gets rid of the stock unsatisfactory shifting sensation. Really fits better with the chunky steering wheel and makes the whole car come together much more. :)
Awesome Sam. Yeah, it's on my list.
Would you please name the model shifter you're referring to?
I agree with you about the maintenance on BMWs. I own a e92 M3 and a FD 😕😊👻. Your car collection is impressive.
I really considered an e92 as a daily but couldn't bring myself to do it. It's still an awesome car with a really cool engine though. And thank you!
just got my z4 07 for 13 k, not m, what does itv mean? would the trunk lid fit my reg z4 3.0si? I like the tail better.
Looking forward to more videos on this car! I've been hoping you'd introduce this car for a while, especially now since I just bought a boston green '97 e36 M3 last month to compliment my emerald mica '99 track Miata.
Awesome man. Congratulations!
super clear car !!!
Thank you!
I used to own the M Coupe (Z3 body style) when I lived in New England but after moving to California I ended up getting a 3.0 Z4 convertible. I definitely miss the M Engine so I have made an offer on pretty much a replica of your car, Black/Black 2007 M Coupe. You seem happy and I'm sure I will be as well!!
Awesome Chris! I hope it works out for ya!
Thanks for the overview. I have an '01 Z3 3.0. I love it as a weekend roadster. It needs tightening up a bit as it isn't as purposeful as the M cars. If I had more garage space I'd be looking for a Z4M. I just watched the /DRIVE piece on the Z4M and learned a lot that I didn't know. I appreciate what you said about it being a special car, but not wanting another. BMWs are quirky, but fantastic to drive. I'm thinking about adding an E92 M3 as my DD, but I think I'd find myself in your position where it was too special to drive in Ohio in the winter. You and I have some similar tastes in cars. You have several that are on my list. As much as I love the S2K and the FD (maybe my favorite) I think your White NB Miata could be my favorite- It just sounds sic, and it looks like a freaking hoot to drive. Keep the videos coming man. Your channel is up there with Petrolicious, The Smoking Tire, etc... for me. #Longhoodsrule!
Thanks man, that is quite the compliment! The e92 is a really sweet car. I wanted one bad for a daily, but couldn't really bring myself to pull the trigger. Especially when I have an FD that's just been sitting on stands begging to be worked on. Need to keep my monthly debt at bay ;)
You're welcome. Yeah, don't neglect the FD. Can't wait to see what you do with it. If you get a chance I'd love to see a video covering the reliability mods for an FD. Everyone does the big power mods, but I'd really like to get a feel for how to build a reliable 250-300 whp FD for the street. Cheers man.
Think im going to buy a z3m coupe. Im surprised how expensive they are with the s54 motor. I had a z4 roadster and i liked driving it and had no complaints. I think i like the styling of the z3 better. But hey if i cant get a z3m coupe s54 the z4m coupe is a good choice as well. Just the z3m looks so crazy. Z4m looks more refined. I want crazy.
Last time I looked an S54 Z3M was close to that of a Z4M. I think from a long term value standpoint, the Z4M will be worth more because the production numbers were significantly less than the Z3M. I don't think you will be disappointed with either though.
Like a fool I turned mine in at the end of the lease. Loved the car and I wish I bought it.
It's not too late to pick another one up!
I bought a 2006 Z4M Roadster a few months ago. I was in the $ 20K-25K range for a weekend play car. Should have sold my 1972 240Z Licenced Tribute BRE with a fresh 3-1 Stroker FIRST ! ( it's still for sale ) I love my first BMW ! I wanted a fast/sexy/"modern" convertible. I test drove AP1/AP2, 350/370Z, Z3M, Triumph TR8, I also like the long front end/short cabin look. Wedge look like my 84 Supra. After 5 months of searching and driving and deciding maybe I was going to go to American V8 Vert options, along came a listing for the Z4M. My first 2 minutes of the test drive I knew this is what I was wanting. I've done 2 AutoX, getting faster and plan on going to Sebring in 6 months or so. The Coups are very desirable but the Roadster M was the first thought on these and they are VERY rigid. Being in West/Central on the Gulf this winter has been so nice to cruise in. Check out Vibra Technics Engine mount and Rogue Engineering Transmission mounts. They help the shifting A LOT, especially shifting in turns. GREAT SITE AND CARS ! SUBSCRIBED !
Thank you! Congratulations on picking up your Z4 ///M!
You said the car has front weight bias. Mine has perfect 50/50 front to rear and cross weight distribution. Probably the only BMW with true 50/50 weight distribution. Looking forward to your project!
Yeah, BMW says it's 50/50, but when I weighed the car on a set of scales it was 3288 lbs and showed a frontward weight bias of 52/48. The reference I was trying to make is that aside from the close to 50/50 weight, the car really feels and drives like a true FR layout car with the S54 extending well beyond the front axle. It's not a bad thing, I love FR cars :)
Headers and exhaust will really wake it up nicely for sure. I like that mechanical rasp sound personally. It's kinda sad to think the S54 is really like the last of the truly great M engines. Good call holding onto this one. It's nice to see someone who can appreciate all types of autos. From a German car guy like myself these are kinda like unicorns where I live.
I am excited to throw some N/A mods at this car. I think it will really give it a great balance of power and theater without bastardizing it. Where are you from? These aren't too easy to come by here in the States either.
Up in Canada, waaay up northern Ontario. You might see 2-3 of these on autotrader in the whole country and they still command 30k+ with high mileage. Love what you're doing with the channel man. Clean look, super clean cars( little OCD with my cars so I can appreciate) and the laid back lounge tunes are really chill also. Nice to see someone driving, reviewing and wrenching their own stuff, it's really refreshing. Keep it up man it's great stuff!
Shortly after I bought it I figured it would only be a matter of time before they start to appreciate in value. Thank you very much for the compliments! I am glad that you dig the music too!
Apex Wheels are great! I wished they offered a lowered offset version of their 17x9 Arc 8 Wheels though.
Great Introduction!
Thank you! They are definitely pretty nice given the price point!
Nice video
My Z4M also has a Bilstein PSS-10....which F+R settings do you use?
I think they are at 8 all around right now, but it's probably a tad too much. Once I re-align the car I will start dialing them in.
I'm surprised I'm catching this two years late. I've had my silver Z4Mcoupe for about 8 years now as well. I definitely will be looking for what you do with the ITBs. When the VANOS kicks in, the sound still makes me smile and I'd love to find a way to accentuate that. Have you looked into a way to do individual velocity stacks for the ITBs? Those look great and sound great as well.
The car has individual stacks from the factory. I could do an open stack setup pretty cheap, but you definitely lose HP in the top end without the airbox. I'm really leaving towards an Evolve unit
You make great videos! (& I envy your mancave..)
Been waiting for this one as I have a '06 interlagos blue myself. As for the notchy gearbox; have you changed oil yet? The RedLine MTL 70W-80 really transformed my box. Slick gearchange even cold! (The Bmw ZHP knob shortens the throw & add momentum too)
Also, unlocking M-Track in the DSC was a revelation on more demanding tracks
Look forward to the next one!
Thanks man! I didn't really phrase what I meant about the shifter feel that well. I did all the fluids first thing right after I bought it and deleted the clutch delay valve. I benchmark every gear box against that of the S2000's, which is still to this day probably the best gear box I have ever experienced. Firm positive feedback and engagement every time. The Z4's isn't terrible by any means, it just isn't anything to write home about IMO.
great looking car
Thanks Randall
I think the prices will double soon for these babies.. what do you think? It feels like the end of an era and this kind of design. It always reminded me of a F250 GTO from the side view.
I can definitely see there being a value for these given how small the production run was. The side profile is my favorite angle on these :)
Really nice car but in the middle of our european crazy hysterical environment discussion this car don't will reach double price...
Hey man, Im looking to buy one of these as a track car and the question is: does it have the rear subframe cracking problem like the e46 does?
I have not heard of any subframe issues with the Z4s. I do think it is worth noting to really look at the rod bearing issues with these cars. I think a lot of them are due to lack of warm up on the 10w60 oil, but it's worth noting that the M engineers said 7000 RPM max with the rod to stroke ratio of the S54 but marketing said no, it has to be 8000 RPM. So they made it 8000 RPM. Just something to consider if you plan on tracking the car and keeping the engine at higher RPM like that. Seems like all of the high revving M engines have an abnormally high amount of rod bearing failures.
Does the Z4M have a sound generator pipe? I removed the foam from mine in my 3.0 Z4 and it now sounds AWESOME in the cabin!
No it doesn't actually.
Garage Quinn Motors ahh that’s a shame!
Even with a C-4 and a C-7 Z06, the BMW Z4 Coupe was bought for the daily and 107,000 miles later, still enjoy driving....
Awesome!
Have you found any guides/suggestions on dialing it in to be less snappy or you just kind of know what needs to be done
I'm running -2.3 camber front and -1.5 rear with 1/16th of toe in front and rear. That seemed to help correction a good amount. You can see how the car behaves now in this track video here comparing it to my friend's E46 M3: ua-cam.com/video/pkV3T0joV_Q/v-deo.html
great video and i am now a subscriber ;-)
Thank you!
Love the car, def on my list of fav BMW's .. How come you didn't upgrade the shifter??
Just hasn't been a high priority for me.
I have always wanted the roadster version of these, but out of my price range. I've since bought a Mazda MSM, and spent more on it than the Z4M would have cost!
Cheers! I know all about spending more money on a cheaper car than what a nicer newer car would cost all too well lol
GQM, what are your thoughts on the 350z HR? I'm gonna be moving somewhere with less twisties so I want more horsepower than my Miata, but I'll still be taking weekend trips to the Dragon so it needs to handle well too.
They are cool cars. The aesthetics of the 350 never really hit me on an emotional level, but the cars are fantastic bang for buck sports cars. I co-drove my buddies relatively mild 06 drift car and that car was extremely easy and docile at the limit. A lot of fun! Heads up in a straight line, my Z4M only put about 2 car lengths on his, so they are no slouches either. If you like the look of the car and don't mind having something a little less athletic than the Miata, then you will not be disappointed!
Awesome car and I enjoyed your video. I have same car but 2008 Monaco Blue. Love it. Love your wheels. What brand are they again?
Thanks Michael. The wheels are Apex EC-7s.
Garage Quinn Motors are they hub centric or do you need a centric ring?
Ah, so you're the reason that last turn on the autocross before the exit is so slick with rubber! ;-)
nice clip anymore up dates on the car
What weight distribution did you get when you weighed it? Sources when I looked it up said 50.2/49.8 which I think is pretty impressive given the engine's weight and placement. Also I don't know if you mentioned already but did you get rid of the C5z?
I don't recall exactly, but it was more frontward biased like 52 F and 48 R, but the fuel level could really impact that. Yup, the C5Z is long gone. I've been dailying an 06 RX-8 that I am going to introduce soon and be doing videos on for building a fun daily driver.
Cool looking forward to that.
What do you think about dropping a s65 in one of these
I think the S65 is an awesome motor and I would totally be into swapping one if they weren't as expensive as they are and have had so many reports of rod bearing issues. If they were rock solid stout, I would maybe be able to justify the cost for one. The rod bearing thing totally turns me off.
At 2:16 ...AP1 S2000?....with the 17" AP2 rims I guess?
Looks great. Always wanted that Sebring Silver Metallic with Red highlights on/in the interior....
Thank you, yes that is an AP1. I have some videos on this channel for that car and an AP2 I have.
What are the offsets for the rear? Apex offers an et35 and an et22 on the 9.5's
18x9.5 +22 Rear and 18x9 +31 Front
Thanks!
Hey man, do you think the front end is pushy on the car because of spring/damping rates/alignment rather than weight, coz it apparently has a near 50-50 weight split front to rear
It's because of the giant iron block cow that sits over the front axle. Regardless of weight distribution that heft over the front axle is going to create noticeable understeer in tighter turns.
@@TheSlipAngle Fair enough. How would you compare this car to say your s2000 or the rx8 or rx7, in terms of handling balance?
Is it possible to cure this understeer with a more squared tire setup/more front camber/toe. Just think with that super stiff body shell, and all the good M bits there potential for a proper sportscar, while still being not as uncompromising as an s2000/rx7. The M3's have probably been a bit on the heavier side to be proper track cars without a diet,whereas this is just in that 'zone', and it has a lot of M goodies from the factory :) Does the car come with full adjustability for alignment?
Would you say the E46 M3/E92 M3 are better in terms of handling balance. Are the engines in those located better under the bonnet?
Still have this car? How much miles? I picked one up about 5 months ago and have been really enjoying the car. I did the rod bearings and vanos. With 96k miles, the bearings definitely needed changing and had wear. Just as an FYI.
Yes I do. 43k miles. The bearings wear if you don't give the 10w60 adequate time to warm up before putting higher load and or rpm on the engine. if you give it ample warmup time the latest revision S54 bearings will not wear. I've blackstone tested multiple oil changes after track days and so no abnormal wear particles in the samples.
In addition the Z-4 Coupes were built in Spartanburg S.C. Not sure about the Z-4M, but one can just check out the Manufacturer decal...
I believe they were all done in SC
if you don't mind us asking, how much did you pay for the car?
28.4k back in 2013.
I want to buy one of these in 3-5 years... i sure hope i don't get priced out of the market by then.... IE... hopefully when you decide to sell this one ;-)
lol
I love every video you post. Your stable is quite impressive and I hope to get your level one day. I'm a bmw guy, but I do enjoy Japanese imports.
Quick question what are your thoughts on the new up coming roadster/supra?
Thank you! I am really excited for the new Z4/Supra, but I am trying not to get my hopes up. I was soo excited for the GT86 concept and I would have went and bought one for a daily if it wasn't for Toyota partnering with Subaru for the engine. It is such a shame because that car with a 2.0 to 2.4L inline 4 making somewhere between 200-240hp would have been total knockout. The same kind of goes for the new Supra. Being that the Supra is traditionally a turbo inline 6 and Toyota doesn't do that anymore, but BMW does, I would presume that the Supra will be getting a variant of BMW's turbo I6s. In all honesty, when I look at those engine bays the thought of working on them makes me want to puke. The packaging is just completely unacceptable in my opinion.
Garage Quinn Motors I'm just excited that Toyota is going finally make a sports car again.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong I think it's great that they are entering back into that market. Honda needs to make a come back as well. There hasn't been anything that is a rightful replacement for the S2000 after its production ended. ND is getting close, but it needs a more exciting engine!
Have ever thought about getting an E30. That's my current money pit.
My brother bought a 2015 FR-S new off the lot and driving in that car changed my perspective on what it meant to have 'fun' driving. I'd always equated HP with fun but canyon carving in his car was more fun than I'd ever had in a car. It was that experience that led me to sell my V8 powered muscle and buy a Miata (a decision that your channel had a LOT to do with btw), which would go one to be my favorite vehicle of all-time.
Being that you're clearly not dissuaded by a car that focuses on handling over power (as your prediction for the Miata, RX-8 and even S2000 to a lesser degree indicate) so I'm curious as to why the 86 disappointed you? The low, flat Boxer engine is an important part of why the car handles so well and has such a low center of gravity and great weight distribution. Throw a cheap turbo on it and you have a 300whp, FE RWD car that outhandles almost everything on the road. My brother paid ~3,500 for his turbo and installed it himself in a couple days and he's just a DIYer with no mechanic schooling whatsoever.
BTW, I'm not challenging you, I'm just curious!
I just bought the cheapest couple in the states and its arrived! i have the video of me buying on my page! any suggestions would be great.
Congrats! I'd do all of the standard maintenance and fluids. It wouldn't be a bad idea to have the oil analyzed for wear metals to gauge the health of the bearings. I run Redline 10w60 in mine and do not load the motor up or rev it high until oil temps are at least 160' F. I typically sample my oil once a year at Blackstone. So far every sample has come back clean.
Good call - plan to do that. I've heard the rod bearings go out on these S54's so was going to look into replacing them. Also heard VANOS is common to need replacing.
the front axle is always from E46 M3, not from E36, steering included.
A question: do you remember the ET of your apex wheels? i have a roadster in italy and i doesn't know apex, they seems really good and not too expensive.
thank you.
The lower control arms are e46 yes, but the shocks lengths do not appear to be the same. When I was shopping for coilovers I talked to Bilstein about the e46 version and they told me the fronts are different, rears are the same.
Garage Quinn Motors In any type of suspension the length of the shock absorber is irrelevant for its operation. And it is only a case that the rear shock are identical.
It is not the case of the coilover ones you bought, but definitely the rear bilstein b8 will have different codes due to different calibration.
You did not answer me about the wheels ET. thank you
So are you saying the shock design and length at the front is the same as E46 as well? Sorry I missed your question about the wheels. They are 18x9.5 +22 rear and 18x9 +31 F
Garage Quinn Motors no, i don't. I think the length of the shock is not important in any kind of suspension, especially in the mcpherson.
in a mcpherson the fondamental part is the lower control arm and the position of the shock, Not its length.
I understand the length isn't important in most cases for building a quality shock. I am only wondering because there are more suspension offerings available for the E46 M3. So if they fit the Z4 M, then it opens up the door for more suspension options.
Hey love your channel. I have an ap1 s2000 with normal bolt-ons but I have always liked the c5 Z06. Can you tell me your thoughts on the Z06 you owned compared to the s2000?
Keep an eye out for my next video with Q&A's. Should have it up in the next day or so.
I've always liked these cars. I have a BMW X3 as a family car, and yeah man, I don't work on that car either. There's no dipstick to check the oil! It's all electronic. haha
LOL. Yeah, the new generation cars are just getting too over complicated. Another nice thing about these that I should have elaborated more on is that this was made before all the electronic gimmick stuff got out of hand. The only thing this has is a sport button that makes the throttle response "sharper" but in my opinion too over sensitive so I don't ever use it. It's one button traction control off and you are on your way. No driving modes or any of that other weird nonsense. I don't like having to press the traction control button every time I get into the car to turn it off, but it could be a lot worse. Turning all the aids off on current day cars is always a procedure.
I know what you mean. Mine has the stupid engine turn off feature when you come to a stop (to save on fuel). There is a bypass button to disable that, but I have to press it every time I get in the car. Ridiculous.
is the black object in the front bumper for cool 5-0 stuff?
It's a radar detector that came on it when I bought it. I don't like how it protrudes, but it also works sometimes so I haven't brought myself to get rid of it yet lol.
very nice, thought it was related to jam
S65 is actually little heavier than s54 when including the headers, heads, oil, and all accessories.
You mention compression ratio a bit, why do you like high CR
Higher compression makes more power. Also, you lose compression when you run longer duration camshafts because they create more overlap of intake and exhaust, so the more static compression you have, the more aggressive cams you can run. Not to mention, any really sweet sounding naturally aspirated engine usually has a decently high compression ratio that contributes to that noise.
Garage Quinn Motors thanks
I like your choices in cars, my top 3 favourite cars or even top two in a toss up would have to be Cayman and S2000. Any S54 M3 or FD RX-7 are honestly still just runner ups for me...As for American Cars, they don't even come close for me, not because I don't respect them, I just think they're all about great looks and sound but no driving substance. Like that new Mustang GT350 with the flat plane crank shaft, the thing is the best sounding engine I've ever heard, the new mustangs even look amazing (i.e. the 2015-17).
Thanks bud. I am not a mustang fan but I would be lying if I said I didn't want to go out and buy a GT350 after riding in one. Such a sweet engine package.
I can't decide between the cayman, S2000 and the Z4, maybe TTRS also. I'm leaning S2000 because I can afford it, but Is there really anything out there that's even comes close to the Cayman? I mean yeah stay away form the 2005 because the cylinder walls are too thin and they completely break and that's after test driving one and the manager handed me a quote to fix the engine that was the same price as what they were asking $32,000 Apparently the S models are not as reliable either, but bang for your buck 06-08 caymans are almost perfect. Yeah they introduced direct fuel injection after 09 and are overall the better choice and this is coming from a Porsche racing garage. That being said why not stick with a cayman and put in a LSD, outside of a Lotus there are few cars that offer that mid engine RWD and it shows in it's handling. The test drive alone just blew me away...there's no car that has it all. Whatever you gain in any one capacity you always sacrifice in something else. Trade offs man, that's life!
ESS supercharging and tune.
Are you going to do a driving impression of this car?
Yes I am!
Can't wait for the driving impression. Still undecided whether to get a s2000 or the Z4M. One question, if you can only choose ones which one would it be?
Very cool car. Would want it exactly in the same trim, even down to the rims.
However, let me give a suggestion: Keep this car stock. If I'd be you, i would revise the engine (swap bearings, oil pump and have VANOS overhauled). Then, redo a run-in of the engine. As you seem to be knowing, what you're doing, you will be save for at least another 60k miles, which is essentially indefinitely, given the car is not a daily driver. The S54 is arguably the best I6, BMW ever did and the pinnacle of the line. Likewise, the whole car is the latest incarnation of the E46 M3 tech-line. I am absolutely certain, that in the upcoming years, car journalists will look back at this car and discover, that it really is the last of a line of authentic M sports cars, which current DKG-shifted turbocharged models differ too much from. It will be considered an unsung hero.
As for a daily driver, have a go in the Z4 Coupe 3.0si. While that one lacks a LSD, has that too-light electrical power steering and run-flats as standard, it does have two distinctive advantages over the M - its *much* lighter and differently balanced (50:50 instead of the more nose-heavy 51:49 in the M) and due to engine characteristics, the drive "feels" much more torque-ish. Driven back to back, i consider the 3.0si much more agile and nimble, than the M. And I like that a lot.
The lack in power compared to the M however, is not important at all to me - at least for a daily driver. The 262bhp do the job just fine for me. Suffice to say, the 3.0si's are more abundant and cheaper to boot and own.
Thanks man. Given the oil analysis I've done I think the bearings are okay. I plan on eventually rebuilding the Vanos and addressing that failure point in the future. I agree about the unsung hero. I like the 3.0 Coupes too, they are fantastic cars.
Good to keep an eye on the bearings. If you do the VANOS some time in the future, you might end up taking out the engine if you go for the timing/cam chain as well. Which would be a good point in time to consider the bearings.
Here in Germany, Z4 M Coupe prices are steadily on the rise. Not by large amounts, but they went from 25k-ish to 30k-ish euros in the last couple of years. That seems to follow the path of 993 911's, which followed that pattern too about 10 years ago. Nowadays, you need a truckload of cash plus a spare kidney to get one (at least here in Germany).
Educated S54-car-buyers always check the (engine-)service history, so I assume you'll not loose money by the overhaul.
All the economic-hogwash aside, I hope you enjoy the car as long as possible and have some serious, real fun with it. :)
You need to change that orange reflector for a clear or tinted one.
I don't think anyone makes one. I see people painting theirs to match the body
@@TheSlipAngle Maybe u can use tinted wrap or fill & spray paint them. I see them type of reflector on all American imports, something to do with regulations? In UK we don't have them on bumpers. It's just a really big eye sore on a great looking car.
I agree
What the hell is an ITB/ITV? I own an 07 Z4 M Coupe and still have no idea what that is. Pretty disappointed someone would use an acronym like 4 times in 30 seconds and not say it out. EDIT: I had already googled it a bit but finally found it. ITB = individual throttle bodies
Yes, ITBs = Individual Throttle Bodies
they were built in the USA mate. Not brought over
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Nice Supra
Kappa
lol
I am surprised that you didn't consider the 350z or the 370z
jack mac this is so much cooler.
I have actually. The 350z would be a great budget drift car, I really enjoyed co-driving my friend's 06. When I decided to no longer daily this, I was really looking into 370Zs. I actually really like the 2015+ Nismo models or ones fitted with the Amuse R1 body kit. After I paid this payment off I was not in any hurry to have another car payment. So I was looking at cars 15k and under for a daily. Settled on the 01 C5 Z06 I had, sold that for the house and am now rocking an 06 RX-8. The RX--8 is a wonderful car and I will be introducing that to the channel as well. The 370z's torque is definitely something to envy compared to the RX-8, but I also learned a lesson with the Z06 about daily'ing torquey cars. I will elaborate on this with the RX-8 video, but the just is that the torque makes everything else seem slow as dirt, even if the other car is actually faster. Example stock C5 Z06 vs my 417 whp RX-7.
Fair enough, I am doing a bit of track days (hill climb and circuit) in my 350z the chassis feels so much nicer than my r33.
I would have thought that the HR (07+) 350z would be a good competitor to the Z4.
Dont hate me because i cant afford the M but im getting the 3.0 coupe next..
I would never man. I totally respect the 3.0 coupe, I think of it as a ZHP version of the Z4. I would never bag on someone because of what they could or couldn't afford. That sort of snobbery ruins the car culture. I bought my NA Miata because I couldn't at the time afford an FD RX-7, my NB Miata because I couldn't afford an S2000, etc. There are almost always awesome alternatives to pricier cars that will provide most of the same thrills while being budget conscious.
wat a guy
The only Inline 6 that sounds like a honda
The more efficient you make the cylinder head flow, the louder and more ricer the engine is going to sound. I am right there with you that these motors can sound like complete crap. If you look at the other inline 6's out there, it's one of the only, if not the only production inline 6 making over 100 hp per liter naturally aspirated. With good mufflers and some resonators, these can sound good.
Put an h pipe instead of an x, or in addition to the x pipe where the section 1 (cat section) is. It will sound much deeper and less raspy.
Ahah! I love your travelling camera method!
The Z4 is my favorite BMW next to my 1986 BMW E30 coupe with a single turbo with a 2jz swap pushing 645rwhp.
That E30 must move!
You went German.
Shhh. Don't tell anyone.
YOU HAVE A GREAT CAR, THE Z SERIES BEAMER .......THEY ARE VERY COLLECTABLE!....🐦🐦🐦 ---- HEEEEY????? HE'S SURPRISED????; THAT YOU CAN HAVE A QUIET FAST COMFORTABLE CAR????? ; YOU THINK THAT IN EUROPE WE ALL DRIVE AROUND IN FIAT CINQUECENTO.....? HEY DUDE!! YO DO NOT, LOOK LEKE STEVE MCQUEEN.... SO LEAVE THE PORSCHE BRAND ALONE BOY!!! ISSUES?????? WHAT ISSUES...???? I HAVE A BEEAMER Z3M M,COUPE, EUROPA SPEC, (S50B32) (E36) M3 INLINE 6 ENGINE.... WITH 317 bhp AT 7400 rpm ...... WHICH I BOUGHT SECOND HAND, AND I HAVE RACED IT, I HAVE USED IT AS A DAILY DRIVER, AND I TRAVELLED FROM MY HOME TOWN IN '''ULLAPOOL IN THE NORTH OF SCOTLAND''' ALL THE WAY SOUTH IN TO FRANCE, AND THEN NORTH UP THRU SCANDINAVIA EAST INTO TO THE PORT CITY OF MURMANSK, TRAVELLING SOUTH TO
ST' PETERSBURG, ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY OF '''IRKUTSK''' IN OBLAST SIBERIA RUSSIA. NON STOP EVERY SINGLE DAY..... ON MOTORWAYS, AUTOBAHNS AT 90 mph TO 140mph AND MORE..... IN RAIN, ICE, SUNSHINE, AND THEN ON BAD ROADS.....
AND ALL THE WAY BACK....? THE CITY OF IRKUTSK IS NEXT TO LAKE BAIKAL, (just north of central Mongolia) AND THE CAR HAS HIGH MILEAGE, BUT IT HAS NEVER MISSED A BEAT!!! RUNS LIKE A TANK..... ONLY MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN DONE, CHANGED THE BELTS , OIL, AND BRAKE PADS, NEW TIRES....BEEMERS ARE HARD CORE BUILT CARS WITH ''IMMEDIATE'' SPARE PARTS AVAILABLE ENY WARE IN THE WORLD..... IT'S THE COMPANY'S FIRST WELL KNOWN PRIORITY....!! THAT IS WHY THEY ARE THE PROPRIETORS OF ROLLS ROYCE..!! BUT OF COURSE... THEN THERE'S ENVY... 🐦 🐦 🐦
p.s YOU HAVE AN ACQUIRED TASTE BOOOY.... I THINK YOU'D' BETTER STICK YOUR BIG LAZY GAS GUZZLING V8'S, OR BETTER TRY THE M5 BI-TURBO OUT IF YOU LIKE SPEED AND HARD CORE POWER..... A VERY TUNEABLE ENGINE, YOU SILLY SAUSAGE.... ''''MARVELOUS'''' THAT IS MY OPINION, JUST LEFT AS THE FACTORY SPEC ♛ ♛ ♛
I can't tell if you are trying to insult me, but the silly sausage line is pretty funny. Also, so much caps.
90% of this video is a guy standing around jabbering about his car.
Hey Chris, this is a very old vid. Check this one out we just released. I think you will like it better :) ua-cam.com/video/DImA1KI4HHo/v-deo.html
You contradict yourself with all the susp mods and the statement of it being your cruiser/street baby. Just a bunch of confusion on your part, but that's your privilege.
My privilege haha? How is that contradicting? I can appreciate good shock valving and setting a car up so I can have the suspension behave how I want it to without it being a track car. But hey, I want to thank you for taking time out of YOUR day to consume a bunch of my videos and leave snarky comments on them. The engagement helps boost them, so I appreciate it! Have a lovely day random guy behind a keyboard!