BLACK DIESEL MIXTURES
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2022
- BLACK DIESEL MIXTURES
I will do this again with some other base thinners.
Kerosene
E85
Maybe couple other things. See what we can come up with.
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I ran BD in a 94' Mitsubish Delica for about 18000ks/11000 mi and the only problems I had was a bit of sooting in the exhaust manifold and carbon build up on the tip of the injectors but that was easily cleaned off with a brass wire-wheel in a drill, when i get another diesel im back into the BD
This video series is awesome! Thank you so much
5W-30 used engine oil
16 gallons
Non ethanol gasoline
3 gallons
Offroad diesel
2 gallons
2 0z acetone
The oil sits and it's plastic jugs for several years, when it's poured out all the sludge is at the bottom. The above mixture is filtered with an electric pump through a spin on oil filter device. This has been my formula so far so good. Figuring the ethanol in gasoline would be a bad idea for long-term story just the fuel once made up. I'm making black diesel without biofuels
👍👍...I wish I could say I'm gonna try a setup for filtering/ mixing and burning alt fuels in one of my rigs,but just haven't got the time at the present juncture,..but good stuff on the topic man👍👍..thank you 👊
Great video Rob very interesting.
This is very informative. Thank you for taking the time to make the video.
Dude I love these videos!
More to come!
Thanks Mr RoB john
Summer time my truck with a 215 pump would run 100% hydraulic fluid. That was back in 2020. Ex wife got that truck. Just my 2 cents.
I settled the waste oil for 2-3 weeks and then poured the clean oil off through a paint strainer bag and that was sufficient and never clogged a filter on the truck or caused an injector or pump failure
RE: Evaporating gas - hmmmm interesting . you accidentally brought up an idea. If you could figure out a way to send any unwanted vapors that may have ignitable stuff in them into air intake (like LP Fumigation works) at least you get use of it by combusting it. (maybe run it thru a flash back preventor though (bubbles thru bottle of water))
ahh yea i like this rob if price goes higher in years ill be burning everything
I ran 50% gas with 50% waste veggie oil in my mild modded p pump 12v with no significant problems and it doesn’t smoke at all except some haze on cold start
Thank you sir. Been runnin 50/50 diesel/waste oil. Saw somewhere in the comments adding some gas would help curtail the smoke a bit.
Will try that asap.
Yep it helps. It still smokes but it will run cleaner
Careful mixing WVO and WMO and gas. It causes a reaction which creates a Gel/Lacquer. Leave the three combined in a jar for a few days and you will see what I mean. This is why when running WVO for a long time you eventually start to have blowby and low compression, the upper rings gum up with a hard lacquer and no longer seal. This is due to the reaction between then thin film of engine oil left on the cylinder wall and the WVO which come into direct contact with each other when injected into combustion chamber. If you've ever done an oil change on a vehicle running WVO you will see this thick jellified oil in the sump and oil filter.
I have never had the gelling issue. But now I want to try the the jam test with a couple different mixes
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Hi,
Is there a way to clean it from the engine,
And if you use white spirit instead of gas or dont use any additive to the wvo would it be ok?
@@palestinianjew4414 My friend using 20 years ago vegie oil, im just trying at the moments ,and he told that , the break fluid can cleaneverithing. forexam this gel (vegie oil), deposits, from the engine, or filter, or from dispenser.... just add break fluid to the fuel, he give it 1 liter for a full tank.
@@palestinianjew4414 I found the only thing that will break down the lacquer is acetone or MEK thinners.
I have a viscosity gauge and 20% gas in 15w40 is still 12cst and diesel is 4cst. It's near impossible to get the oil as thin. I run it 20% no problems.
If they were so expensive I would have one. Have you added diesel in it as well to help ?
@@CUTTERUPROB it takes way more diesel to thin it, 50 50 was closer but still higher i can't remember the numbers as it wasn't cutting the cost enough, so far 20% gas has worked the best.
@@CUTTERUPROB you don’t need a viscosity gauge if you know the cSt values. E.g diesel = 4 veg oil = 34. A 50-50 mix would give you a cSt value of 19. It’s proportional
Percentage would be based off of total volume?
20 + 100 = 120
20/120 = .166666666
16.67% not 20%
Well I found out as I pushed my luck once on hydraulic 10 wt and probably different grades of hydraulic oil , just depends on what the equipment was it came from . So any ways I pushed out the rubber gasket on fuel filter . I don't remember exactly how much I had added to the tank but a lot more than 5 gallons .. I going to add the water injection to my truck to help clean the chambers . Now that you mentioned it . As far as adding gasoline to diesel I think I read that vw said you could add a gallon to the tank on the old ID cars for winter starting . I never tried it . The amount of gas may have been less I don't know for sure . Thanks for the videos
I run gas in most of my diesels to help clean smoke up. Have for years.
@@CUTTERUPROB Rob i remember reading that vw said you can add gas to the diesel to help starting in the old i think 1.6 id engines . I was concerned on what might happen to my p pump but since you done this and for years ok .. Thanks for the info
Great demonstration, I love seeing actual measurements. Seems like engines with mechanical fuel pumps can be happy eating fuel at a significantly higher viscosity than standard diesel. Have you done any estimates on how much higher before they start sooting up, blowing seal, or some other problem?
on/y in the summer. but i have run straight engine not heated in the summer , but i find the engine sluggish, so i never run less the 10% mix of some kind
I run 10%gas, 40% oil, and 50% diesel in my common rail no problems but a little less mileage
I mix 3gal wmo 1gal old gas that smells like varnish and 1gal diesel. in a 5gal pale. then pump it through a Cat ultra performance fuel filter. I think it's a 1 micron.
Rob could you tell me where you got your tester your using in this video please sir?
I add the listing to the description
Ive been experimenting with black diesel for a year now, i got around 1000L of 15-40 used engine oil, im filtering it through 3 filters, 17 micron, 10 micron, then the trucks 5 micron, my mixtures are always different, basically im wondering is there anything i can do to combat the smell, im wondering if anyones figured anything out about that, thats the only issue for me when running higher then 50/50 waste oil/diesel, is the smell is almost unbearable sometimes
Have you compared injectors running watermeth compared to just wmo. I'm running wvo 80/20 with gas single tank at the moment and watermeth with a 500cc jet. I've burned 1000 ltrs of wvo and the Detroit is running great. I haven't had to pull injectors at all to clean. Would be interesting to see a comparison with and without watermeth. I run mostly city with a good road trip 1-2 times per month. Truck uses 8 ltrs per week of water meth and 4 ltrs an hour on the hwy, BC mountains, so foot is planted most of the time.:)
The issue is the build out of time ( thousands on kms ) is hard to get off after it’s there. So I like to clean from the start to keep it clean. But you don’t need to run that much to clean. I burn 4-6 litres per 1000km ish. If you towed heavy you can burn less as well. Also in the summer I run 4 gallons or water to one meth
@@CUTTERUPROB Thanks, running straight water at the moment. I'll probably swap out the jet to a 250CC and see how it does.:)
Hello, I'm new to this and I have the opportunity to pick up 250 gallons of used refrigeration oil and have to travel quite a distance to get to it?
Or is it not worth my time and aggravation?
Anyone using 30wt non detergent?
iv learned alot from you about this black diesel stuff, pretty well rely on you for most of my info ( no pressure lol) so dont take this the wrong way im simply trying to help you like you helped me.
im a numbers guy so when i went to mix my first batch a felt somthing was off (personal feeling not texture of the oil) i ran some numbers and i just wanna share what i came up with.
30ml of gas added to 300 ml of oil give you a total volume of 330 ml.
The total percentage of gas by volume being %9.1
Adding another 30ml of gas to that 330 ml volume giving you a total volume of 360ml
The total percentage of gas by volume being %16.7
adding an additional 30ml giving you a total volume of 390ml only give you a gas saturation of %23.1
lets say you add another 30ml to give you a total volume of 420ml (120gas-300oil)
your still only around a gas volume of %28.6 (not %40)
i did some testing of my own (with a small tractor engine) mixing 500ml diesel oil with 200ml of gas and 200 ml of diesel fuel it performed amazing in my opinion.
(5) parts diesel oil - (2) parts gasoline - (2) parts diesel fuel
(%55.4) (%22.3) (%22.3) *approx*
if you mix it just (5)-(2) with gas you end up with the above %28.6 gas by volume.
i find the 5-2 to be ideal when working with icb totes. its gonna allow me to have the bottom 300L for settling space. that also means i can run it with or without mixing diesel.
i love when people want to do testing, reason i don't figure out the % the way you are 9 the right way lol ) is i find most guys just want to make it easy,
100l litres oil 20 litres gas 30 litres diesel
you end up with 150l of fuel for 50 litres fuel if that makes sense , honestly the amount of % i just get something close and it it not running good i add more fuel lol
@@CUTTERUPROB yes that makes sense. free 100L lol
im trying to be careful, iv only recently bought a diesel engine to power my house (im ''off grid'') and really dont wanna screw up and add to much gasoline causing pre ignition? if thats a thing in diesels. never had a reason till now to understand a diesel engine/fuel system but im learning.
I've been using this kind of mix in different size stationary diesel engines which use a "boil away" cooling system... As soon as the engine warms up it starts running rough. But I'm guessing since the engine is slightly above the boiling point of water, I'm guessing the gasoline is boiling in the fuel system...
I think it would yes
Have you every tried filtering through one of those 1 micron filter socks?
I have but I find them a pain to work with. They plug up and I end up with e mess to clean up
Thanks for all the cool videos Rob. I thought this one was very interesting. Im not trying to sound like a smart ass here, but your math is a little off. For example 10 percent would 90ml of oil and 10ml of gas and so on.
10% of 90ml would be 9ml. I do by volume. 100ml x 10% = 10ml and you would end up with 110ml over all volume is how I have always done it
I'm building a motorcycle with a 10hp diesel engine off Amazon. They say it makes 20 ftlbs torque
I have 55 gallons of waste oil/ veggie oil, trans fluid, etc.
I also have bottles of lantern oil
Tiki lamp oil
And many others.
Is there any type of oil that WILL harm the engine running at 100% "concentrate"
I know this is off topic but how do you feel about mack rack plug for p pump?
I do whenever I have pumps off
Are you worried about the gas flashing off during the mixing process? Are you mixing inside of a building or outside ?
I myself no. But you do want to make sure the is ventilation is good
Would a Cummins R2.8 be a good candidate for black diesel?
You can but commonrail is a tricky thing to run it on
90% + 10% = 100%
So I have a pre def 24 valve with a cp3 could I use this if I clean it back to golden oil threw filtration or is this still just for mechanical fuel pumps like the p pump or vp44
This is one of those things I have run couple thousand gallons in commonrails and never had a issues. But it have to be really clean and run a lower amount of oil
@@CUTTERUPROB if I can get the burnt oil I can get it crystal clear I have access to a fry filter as I described before and could filter the oil down to one micron it would be golden brown again what % would you run 60/40
would you run this on a vp44 with a fass
i have but i would't run more then 50% in vp44
I realize that this is an older video now , lol I have questions, any knowledge of this would be greatly appreciated.... I have access to 1000's of liters of oil from trans shops and automotive shops due to having to pay to get rid of it, problem is that the oil will have, brake clean , brake fluid, varsol , gear oil in it , is that a problem,? and with my experience with working in a trans shop , it can have alot of metal in it , or just sucking up the top half of the tank avoid all of that ? should I just stay away from the trans oil or can it be filtered out enough, if there are videos on this please share them with me ,
If it is settled it will work just fine. Just make sure to take off the top and clean the oil well.
Thanks very much for your time much appreciated from a fellow Canadian ( southern Ontario)
What's the trick to avoid injector tip coking?
Run a tank of diesel with clean in it every 4-5 tanks or and add water / meth injection
Hi, What is the maximum percentage of gasoline that is allowed to prevent engine damage.
I have run 30 % with issue. But depends on the oil you are running
@@CUTTERUPROB Thanks for your reply
Still having those bartending dreams.
I though 10% would be 91mls to 9mls
I really should have you parts.
I just always did it
100 litres oil
10 lites gas
Total 110l
For easy math.
@@CUTTERUPROB sound like U working out GST in Australia. Lol
@@CUTTERUPROB hey Rob,gas here being kerosene or diesel fuel