What engine to run black diesel in
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2023
- Want tech SUPPORT ? ---------------- calendly.com/cutteruprob/30min In this video, I'm talking about the different engine options for black diesel vehicles. I'll cover the pros and cons of each engine type and give you my recommendation for which engine to run in your black diesel vehicle.
As a black diesel driver, it's important to know all the options available to you. In this video, I'll help you choose the engine that's best for your needs! Whether you're new to diesel or have been driving for years, this video is a must-watch!
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You buy an old vehicle and rebuilt the diesel engine, renovate the interior get it painted whatever it takes to avoid buying anything newer. The newer it is the higher the overhead. I got to find somebody to put a mechanical diesel engine in a 1977 Lincoln Continental. So I can drive the big gigantic world's largest two-door coupe on black diesel
My 85 6.9 loves it....just blend in a little old gas into wmo/tranny fluid/gear oil etc and filter to 30 micron then allow to settle any water out before use...ran 200 gallons so far and only plugged 1 fuel filter on the truck.
Direct injection diesels LOVE black diesel, easy as that.
I've successfully used well processed and filtered blends with many diesel engines through many different processes. Between a $300 budget that could produce 500 gallons a day to $1600 400 gallon mobile collection and processing units that could pre filter, dewater, heat and centrifuge on the go. VW 1.6/1.9, Mercede OM series, Chevy 6.2, 6.5 and 8.2, 2 stroke detroits, Cummins 3.9, 5.9, 8.3, VT, NTC, M11, L10, International DT360, DT408, DT466, Cat 3208, 3116, Mack 673, various mechanical diesel Farm, Construction, Forestry, Boating, Generators and home heating equipment.
You think a 06 deleted tdi jetta will handle it
@@darinschmidt6456 Mechanical injection swap would be more forgiving
Can I run it in a LBZ Duramax?
@@Axel_sms I'd avoid use in CommonRail applications
can i run black diesel in my home heating oil furnace with beckett burner?
Currently running black diesel in my 15' tdi , straight 4in exhaust turbo back. Stage 2 tune.
Filtering it down to 1 micron and only use oil/diesel that i personally drain from servicing med/hd trucks at work.
I only use a clean pan to collect it. Then usually cut it down with fuel treatment and clean diesel. About 4-5gal of oil to 1-2gal of diesel roughly.
Only other fuel system mod is the duramax fuel metering/fpr valve which may help the flow. But i try to keep the viscosity close-ish to reg diesel as best i can. And i dont exceed 2/3 tank of black diesel to 1/3 clean diesel. Thats the max i can run before it looses alill power anyway.
can i ask why you lose gallons when you make diesel im a 12v guy and as long as the oils thin enough it will run but i wouldent put dirty oil through a super expensive 13mil p7100 but 100 percent i always put 2 stroke oil
yay more black diesel stuff!!!! nice!!!
ive got a Toyota 1HD-T It has a VE pump no issues runs great!!!
Will be a bunch more coming now it getting Nicer out
@@CUTTERUPROB yes i agree Im in YYC too winters been too long... learning lots from you keep the videos comming. looking forwared to that mini centrafuge you got
Yeah, makes me wish I kept my 6.2 GM...I been reading my GMC book in recent years, then went online & read about guys saying, oh we ran 80 % used oil & 20 % diesel in our Toro Flow 478 V6 diesels back in the 60s and 70s, but I had no idea about the black diesel being this popular.
I have a 1.6 TDI Golf 7 Right now. I run the Red stuff pure. I have a strong and fast Pump. Through the Pump line I use a Big ass Truck Filter that is good enough to filter shit out. The place I get my stuff is pre Filterd too most likeley. I save 40 cent a liter from it.
Some time ago I had 1.9 Tdi 2003 and 1998 I ran Sunflower oil from the Supermarket becasue it was cheaper and it worked fine.
Also The red stuff. Obviously it worked. And then some time later I had a 3.0 TDI 2006 I ran some Black stuff on. I did like a 50-50 Mixture and it seemed to work okay-ish. Just once I did a mistake and used canisters that used to be washing chemicals wich kinda fucked up some things.
One interesting thing that happend was when the car was Hot it didnt start again. It ran but it didnt start. I had to cool down first and then I could start it again.
Diesels that have injector pumps are said to be susceptible to the carbon wearing out the pump prematurely. Black diesel oil has a lot of fine micro particles of carbon in it. The only way to safely run it is to use a centrifuge to take out the carbon particles.
96 VW 1.9 TDI AHU non common rail is the best IMO!
Got a Chinamar L100 that loves straight oil. Even in sub freezing temps it still starts pretty easily.
I've got a 465 Hercules/continental for a potential project,I'll start by running wmo in that...but those prefer waste oil and whiskey I think 🤣🤣...but anyway.... thanks feller,see ya later 👍👍👊
Is it a much to run a dual tank system. Im was looking at a polo Volkswagen. They quote 4 litres per 100kms. Which is really good fuel economy for starters
I got an lm Duramax for real cheap. Its weight saved. Would the cp4 like it?
I gotta start running black this summer. Not even for the savings in fuel cost. Ever since they took all the sulfur outta the fuel i've been having injector issues. Ive got a couple old 100g semi fuel tanks mounted side by side connected to 2 fuel filters, gated Y and a transfer pump (its my old setup to haul jet A with my pick up) hoping i can just filter by pumping back an forth into each tank. Or do I gotta do something else like the tweekers use kitty litter to get the red dye out of red diesel?
Ya you can do that
I am running on m'y Mercedes w210 300TD 177hp verry Well about 3 year now Anny problème 20% gas 80% Wmo
OM606 best engine for this fuel
Looking to get a centerfuge filter but at 2k price I'd like to check with u about the cold, pulling, and mix? I use my trucks for my buisness. I also have a 6.0 ford
it is a hard pill, but you can setup filters to get you started and then save some cash to buy one later,
alfa romero and mercedes are the first cars to have a common rail system in the 1997 the alfa romeo named it JTD and mercedes named it CDI
Got a random question for you. I’ve seen people use gelatin to clean used veg oil for biodiesel- leaving a puck of gunk at the bottom and clean oil up top. Think you can do the same with petroleum based oils?
That I am not sure off. I have made lots of bio diesel but never tried that
I have a 2004 cummins 2500 can i runs on that
good day all :-) any experience on indirect injection engines the swirl chamber and outlet coking up ? :-)
i have ya, thus way i run 2 tanks and run diesel part of the time with a cleaner
Silly question, could I use an old air dog lift pump to filter my used wmo? Would that filter it enough
You can. But I would recommend getting a bigger pre filter so it doesn’t plug up as fast
Would are your thoughts in running black diesel in a higher horse power 12v with a P Pump? Mine is in the 500 hp range. Thanks for your great videos.
Send it
As long as you clean the waste oil well and change your crankcase oil early or on time you have nothing to necessarily worry about
I do all the time now. Just makes sure it’s clean
I have a 500 HP 7.3. I use a flare plate heat exchanger and dual tank system to run 100% WMO.
@@dylanporras2655you do not cut the oil with gas or diesel just rely on the heat exchanger?
I have a 6.6 Duramax 2011 what is your suggestion on that do you think I would get away with running black diesel thank you in advance
You can. Here I did a video on it
Unbelievable: What Happens When Black Diesel Meets the Common Rail?
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What about the h e u I systems like in the 6 l power stroke ?
Did you watch the video? He says they're fine.
G'day there, I farm in Ontario. I'm interested in trying black diesel in my tractors which are all mechanical injectors. Just wondering where to source a centrifuge? Thanks Brad
My big one isn’t wvo designs
If I wanna run black diesel in a 04' Dodge 5.9. Are there any modifications that should be done first? Or does it just need to be super clean and keep it to no more than a 50/50 mixture with regular diesel?
Supper clean and 50/50 is a good start
I have a 2007 Dodge Sprinter van with a 3.0 Mercedes diesel engine. It has a DPF. Has anyone out there tried running this engine on black diesel? As long as the oil is clean and diluted enough, it should be fine, right?
If it has a dpf I won’t run black diesel.
Just out of curiosity would you run black diesel in a dedicated or “semi dedicated” race truck?
I personally wouldn’t. But you could
What temp should you heat the oil to to burn off water and heat it for how long?
If you want to burn the water off. Have to it’s above boiling point if you want to get it off fast
My 7.3 loves used motor oil. How about a DT466? Years?
At the dt stuff seems to all like it
I ran successfully in 81 Toyota, 83 Ford ranger, 86 Ford Ranger, 6.9 IDI Ford, 7.3 IDI Ford. My 02 Dodge did not like it. I would like to know any tricks for an 2002 24 valve 5.9 Cummins. Even as little as 30% oil would coke up injectors in the cummins. Thinking about replacing that worn out engine with a 12 valve.
good day , what engine is in the Toyota- 2.0l ,2. , 2,4 etc non turbo indirect injection ? any coking in the swirl chambers and flat injector faces ? singe tank or 2 tanks ?what % blend ? thanks :-)
Have a 93 1st gen. Dual tank setup, after I drive on centrifuge cleaned oil(45g of oil/10g of gas) for around 30 miles. I get an excessive amount of white smoke for several days after running on diesel. Any experience? Thanks for the reply
Depends on what the oil is. But you can do a couple things.
Add more gas ( no more then 30 percent)
Add some diesel fuel
This is based on the truck is running perfectly too. If you happen to be run straight syn oil it harder to burn.
@@CUTTERUPROB ok thanks for the tip. Centrifuge cleaned 15w-40. 50 gal oil/ 7 gal gas/few gallons of diesel. I'll try mixing more diesel first
Would single shot injectors be better than the split shot injectors?
Not sure what you mean
If the oil is preheated is it possible to run straight filtered WMO through a Hercules engine in the multi fuel deuce and a half military vehicles?
You can yep.
Those things were built to burn pretty much anything. Probably one of THE BEST candidates. Especially since you can register them in some states in such a way as they're not subject to fuel taxes, so you wouldn't have to worry about any of that either.
Hey there ya I ran wmo in my deuce for 8 years. Summer 40 gallons wmo 10 gal rug. I centrifuged my oil to a half micron dewatered and would run every third Tank straight #2 and change out my filters regularly. Never had a problem always started up and ran beautifully never overheated and it never really had problems with the injectors or pump. I turned it up to about 12 lbs boost. Never got over 1150 Egt . I didn’t run it hard. Was a great truck. I drove it in the Sf Bay Area to piss off liberals.
NO BLACK GOLD IN DURAMAX, common rail from day1 in 2001.
At$150 a tank (98r.0 ram ) run black gold for 5werks that covers a set of DDP injectors ($750) . Odds are you will only faul 1 injector at a time .
How would an airdog 150 or similar handle the cleaning requirements?
I have run lots in common rails. I don’t recommend it for guys. As most won’t clean it well enough. The air is a good finally cleaner. But you should have it stripped down to 1 micron and settled before it hits your tank
So this includes the ford 7.3 Powerstroke?
Or only the IDI
Lots of guys run it in both
Anyone have any experience or info on running WMO (cut with kero or diesel, and cleaned in my centeifuge) in the newer S. Korean tractors? Some, like the Branson 24HP models, do not have DPF on them.
I've tried finding info on whether these engines (Yanmar is one make they use) are mechanically pumped, or a common rail system with a CP3 style pump. I located two websites that sell remanufctured Yanmar pumps, with one pump that looks similar to a CP3 pump, and the other selling what looks closer to a p‐pump!
I have a couple guys running the small yanmar on black diesel. Just buy a extra set of injectors. You will need to pull them couple times a year and clean them
@@CUTTERUPROB Thank you very much for the info!!
What kind of problems will we face with a DPF?
Oil plugs them up. Ends up not a good deal
What about the old 53 series Detroit's ?
Yep they seem to eat it just fine
Detroit 2 strokes will burn raw bacon, man.
I have a John Deere tractor, would it be safe for me to run black diesel in it?
The old stuff yes. Like 1990s and older
@@CUTTERUPROB so not a 2023 year model tractor then.
Great video. Can't U delete the DPF? Cheers Graham.
You can yes. But your not supposed to.
Would a 2015 that deleted be able to run it
You can but I don’t recommend it for most people
Why is that
@@brandonhunsaker134 that new system has very tight tolerances. Must guys won’t spend the time to clean and mix it right. I haven’t don’t it on anything new then a 2010 myself. I don’t have good data for the new stuff to recommend it.
How did you take the 2010 down to if you don’t mind me asking and thank you for your time and everything you do
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Can commercial Simi trucks run on that diesel
i know a few that run it
I have been curious, what about a 3406 B Model?
What about a 60 series Detroit
I have a buddy that runs in all his older semi trucks no problem and old 7.3 and even 2018 Cummins
it amazes me how many people run the black diesel and people that put these vids on youtube. the one thing that never gets mentioned is paying the road tax on the gallons you use. it is against the law to run black diesel on the road and not pay those taxes.
I have talked about it in a video
You have already payed taxes on the oil or someone has
Jesus what are you, some sort of little Nazi, or something?
And even if we did want to donate money to the gov't for more bombs for Israel, who are we supposed to go out of our way to pay taxes to?
Best setup in my opinion
7.3 idi turbo
Idi for the pre combustion chamber gonna get that fuel warmer
Loose tolerance injector system all mechanical not a whole lot to mess up
A turbo isn’t needed but more air seems to get cleaner burn
Slave lake from zip ties and bias plys would run on strait gear oil lol
7.3 idi is cheap to work on if things fail and has as much stock hp as a early powerstroke if it’s turbocharged
So.. little info for you.. that you probably know but didnt include, vw-pre 2004 its all mechanical or close to it.. VP37 pump, same as 24v cummins.. run piss for all it cares. 2004-2006 tdi is PD. Aka camshaft fired injectors.. it will work fine but when the abrasion from the carbon eats the injectprs over time.. it will cost way more to replace injectprs unless you hoard them from the wreckers.. prepare yourself lol. After that. Theyre all commonrail with CP4 pumps.. we all know theyre as sensitive as a purple haired activist. So.... tread lightly..
BMW-2009-2013 is commonrail with CP3 pump. Pump will probably be fine. But piezo electric injecors.. not cheap.. 350+ per piece. Keep that in mind
What are you doing about fuel tax? What you are doing is just the same as running red fuel as far as the government is concerned. Cummins has to stop making their Centinel System because it burned a small amount of engine oil
That’s a grey area. I run it’s as ( fuel additive) if someone asks about it.
@@CUTTERUPROB so let's hope none of the wrong nosy people from the government read or see too many of the videos/comment's you put up. 🤣even here in denmark they will hand out some serious fines when it comes to try and save yourself a little money if they find out. but good video anyway 👍