2019 Honda Super Cub C125: Leg Shield and Fork Cover Removal
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
- I decided to tear into the Cub today to replace my damaged leg shield. I needed to install some accessories and new wiring for my accessories, so this was a perfect opportunity to tackle both projects at the same time. This is a long video, so skip around with the chapter markers below.
The plastic bits on this bike are very tight and tricky to remove, so take your time and try not to break any tabs on the panels. I broke one clip on the "center cover" and accidentally cut into my paint in another spot. So, I'm putting this out there for others to learn from my mistakes.
I didn't record the reassembly of the parts because it's essentially the reverse of the removal process. The leg shield is tricky to get on or off the bike, so you probably won't want to tackle that job unless you're serious about getting in there. I installed all of my auxiliary wiring along the frame rail alongside the factory harnesses. Then I routed everything up through the handlebar cover successfully after a few tries and lots of grumbling.
The only location I could find a good place to tap a 12V switched output was the BLACK wire on the back of the ignition switch. That's a switched output (on/off with the bike) that can directly feed a low-amperage load or energize a relay's coil to connect a more significant load from the main battery. In my scenario, I tapped that wire and used it to energize a relay for a separate fused circuit from the battery. That circuit powers my driving lights, dual-USB charger, and Garmin Zumo cradle.
Keep in mind that the Super Cub's charging system only produces 180W maximum at 5000 RPM, so there isn't a lot of extra capacity for accessory loads. My total draw from all of these accessories is under 50W, and I've never experienced any problems or excessive battery drain. Here is a breakdown of the accessory power ratings:
20W Denali DM driving light (10W/each)
18W Dual-port USB charger
10W Garmin Zumo 396
Time indexes:
0:00 : Overview of my plans today
1:53 : Removing the front garnish
6:05 : Finally making progress on the front garnish
8:40 : Watch out for Phillips #2 vs JIS #2 screw heads, an impact gun works faster and cleaner
9:54 : Removing the left fork cover
12:53 : Removing the right fork cover, be careful with the attached cable harnesses
16:11 : Removing the center cover, BE CAREFUL OF THE MIDDLE TABS!!!
18:47 : Removing the switch cover garnish... remove the lower-left screw first!
20:05 : Removing the switch cover
21:30 : Starting the removal of the leg shield, some of the 5mm Allen bolts were VERY loose, so be sure to use thread locker when you reinstall
21:57 : Removing the leg shield
23:45 : Naked Cub! A look at the underbone chassis, throttle body, wiring, etc.
25:17 : Unboxing the new leg shield
26:10 : Unsucessful attempts to remove the handlebar top cover
30:18 : Giving up on the top cover, resorting to the pipe cleaner trick to route my wires instead
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QM
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The CT125 was invented by frustrated C125 owners..😂🤣.. I was really interested in buying this bike.. now I'm not so sure.. You got a nice sunny day with a beer and nothing on the line.. still a huge pain in the rump.. Could you imagine trying to fix something with it pouring rain or wind or both.. Never mind freezing cold..😳..Hmmm.🤔.. You're doing owners a huge service by making this video..👍👍
Luckily, the Super Cub is extremely reliable. I haven't had any mechanical failures of any kind... not even after my crazy 10K mile trip around the USA in July. The only errant behavior that I've seen so far has been with the Smart Key randomly misbehaving: ua-cam.com/video/87zuN5RRbkA/v-deo.html
In a coin toss between the Super Cub and the Trail 125 (CT125), the SC would win as my daily rider. The CT125's top speed of only ~52 MPH hurts its chances for successful road trips where highways are concerned. The SC can cruise comfortably at 55-60 MPH all day long. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Took out my battery for the winter yesterday(freezing temps here already this weekend). Thanks to your video I avoided breaking any tabs on the body panel cover. Used two nylon trim tools. Thank you!
Thx for the feedback... I'm glad to help! These plastic bikes have lots of fragile little tabs, so it's always tricky the first time through one of these disassembly jobs. I'm surprised that I didn't lose tabs on the front garnish or fork covers. I have a Honda Silverwing 600 that is a similar nightmare in terms of interference fits and fragile tabs. Taking the front fairing off "carefully" is an exercise in futility.... they are made to go on once and NEVER come off. The service manuals and exploded parts diagrams might show you where the tabs are, but they never tell you HOW to get them apart... that's where things usually go sideways. 😉 --QM
Those vinyl covert connections that you mention It’s a Honda practice since it’s inception nothing new I’ve been around hunters 45 years and I’ve had them all the bike is a perfect representation of its predecessor I just got one today for my 53rd birthday I enjoyed so far
I love your videos on scooters. I know what you mean as far as taking them apart. I have a 2017 honda metropolitan and I installed the honda RPM meter and every panel is held on by six screws two bolts and ten clips. I had to use 4 different screw drivers until I found one that would not strip the screws
thanks for this video, I never would have got the leg shield off. I tore my zuma down to the frame, shaved down the throttle cam and reassembled quicker than just taking this one panel off this bike.
Agreed! The leg shield on the old Honda Passports was a 3-minute affair. Luckily, most owners of the new C125 won't ever need to remove that leg shield. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
You broke the exact same tab I did off of mine with the battery cover. My battery needed to be tendered and had to take the cover off. Was a blow to my confidence that I already broke something on mine, lol.
that side panel is cheap anyways. Think its like $30.
Great tutorial video!! Good job.
Thanks for the feedback... glad you liked it! Tearing down these modern plastic-clad bikes can be an exercise in patience and futility sometimes. Those panels and tabs are fragile little nuisances, and the service manuals never tell you HOW to get them off successfully. The first run-through can be a painful one. 😉👍 --QM
Thanks for a really informative video. I've just changed the front mudguard/fender on mine. It was snapped off when the bike blew over in a gust of wind. (Centre stand narrow, bike light and large surface area - ugh.)
I would have really struggled without watching you remove the front badge and leg shields. I followed your example and it worked great. Only damage was the same very small tab on the front shield you lost! I found it helped to push the clips/lugs for the shield out from back as there is just room to poke around behind the upper leg shields with whatever you have to hand. Same deal with the back clips inside the fender on the lower shields. I used a little piece of soft wood.
I was only able to try this because you showed how the clips look and fit, so once again, big thanks.
Thanks for the feedback, Paul! I replied to this several days ago, but it seems that YT is eating some replies again... not sure what's up with that. Anyway, I'm glad that the tear-down video helped you on your quest... it's always better to learn from some else's mistakes if possible. I've broken my fair share of fairing tabs over the years, so I knew that the Cub would probably be the same situation... lots of plastic cladding everywhere to remove for just about any maintenance task. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Hey QuasiMotard -- great video. I have a quick question for you. When reinstalling the battery after a recharge, I accidentally dropped one of the battery cover screws down inside the bike. I cannot see the screw and really don't know where it ended up. I suspect it's sitting on top of the engine somewhere. Do you think it's worth the trouble to remove the leg shield to try to retrieve this lost screw? Any other ideas? Thanks for your time.
I made the same mistake and dropped one of the screws down into the body. Fortunately, I was able to retrieve it with a magnetic pick-up tool. I wouldn't advise removing the leg shield just for that recovery, and I don't think it's really necessary to have both screws in that cover. However, I would make sure that the upper one is in place due to the cable management on the cover. You should be able to get another screw from your local Honda dealer (P/N: 90132-MJE-D40, cost is around $2.95). Cheers! 👍 --QM
When dissembling equipment, it’s handy to have one or three muffin tins in which to separately place various fasteners, parts, etc. And, potting a little label in with various fasteners helps when reassembling.
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Wow fantastic info Quasimotard for the strip down and looks like you have to be very careful then the old c90 leg shield i could take off in minutes.
I think im going to leave it to the Mechanic.
Im Worried about gaining access to the battery compartment breaking.
Thx for the feedback! I thought the same thing about the "center cover"... accessing the battery for any kind of checkup might result in broken tabs for other owners. The older C90's (e.g. Passport here in the USA) didn't have as much plastic, and the parts weren't nearly as tight or complex... pulling the leg shield was a very simple affair. I don't recommend that anyone disassemble the new C125A too many times, or there will be lots of swearing and broken plastics. The high-wear areas for this procedure will be the center cover and the smart key trim ring/cover... both of those pieces are very tight and have interference-fits that require significant pressure and prying to maneuver on/off of the bike. I wonder if the dealers have some specialized pry tools for the job? 👍 --QM
Just curious, I'm a GoPro newbie and I'm starting to record some of my Cub adventures. Are you using the chest harness?
Yes, this particular video was recorded with the GoPro Chesty harness. Most of my other moto vlogs are captured with a MotoRadds chin mount on my helmet, and sometimes I will dual-record with the chest rig at the same time to get the handlebar/gauge view on the Cub. Let me know if you need any details on the workflow or video production chores. You can drop me an email at quasimotard@gmail.com and I'll be happy to send a cheat sheet to you. 👍 --QM
Thanks for the video, I couldn't find a pic of a super cub 125 with the leg guard and front fairing removed anywhere online. I'm considering converting a C125 into a CT125-lookalike
Did you make the conversion?
No, I ended up getting a 2015 CC110 instead
This is a glaring difference between the old C90/C50 Cubs as by the time you have removed a few plastics you could of fully taken the old girls totally to bits...
Yep, it's quite the chore to undress this new Cub. Several friends of mine had Honda Passports (same bike as the C90) back in the early 80's, and we could pull the leg shield and have the carburetor off in just a couple of minutes. The new all-plastic body on this model has lots of interlocking plastic clips and frame boss interferences to contend with. The process can be learned and time minimized, but the risk of breaking tabs is always there... it's too easy to rush and snap those interference-fit pieces.
I'm waiting for the CT125 to finally become a reality. I'm planning to buy 2 of them, add a few long-haul and off-road accessories, and then ride them across the country with another moto-fanatic (not sure who yet). There aren't any plastics or fancy farings to break on those little mules... just metal, knobby tires, and the bikes are light enough to carry/pull out of really nasty situations if the need arises! 👍 --QM
Great machine
The electrical connection s are made the same way you have in all the units I see in the background. They are the same used for years.
If you are interested, look up Vessel screwdrivers. I bought several JIS sets and I think they are great! I read about them in Motorcycle Consumer News years ago.
Thx for the tip! I need to get another good set of JIS tools... mine were stolen years ago in Austin. I'll look up Vessel and add some to my toolbox. 👍 --QM
I feel your pain. I did this 2 days before your video aired without the book......Annngggry......broke two tabs on the battery cover. Speaking of which where did you find your plastic? The battery cover was the hardest for me which is weird because that's the one you need to remove when your fob system dies at night in a gas station. At time time I swapped the air box to a K&N intake and new exhaust. I was also going to take the bar plastic off for a phone wire and gave up; I would brake it so I choose a different route.
I took all the plastic off again last night but removed the seat first. Removing the seat made it so much easier to get the leg shield off and reinstall the battery cover. Had all plastic back on in ten minutes.
I installed a Yoshimura GP exhaust, Chimera K&N Intake, NGK CPR7EAIX-9 Iridium Plug, Bazzaz ZFi fuel management system and an aRacer CubeG. Haven't touched the sprockets yet.
The cub is my only bike and around here there is a lot of hills which the cub couldn't maintain speed when going up.....I was going to get run over. Now it can and it's fun off the line.
Important for cub users. If you install an exhaust and intake to help the engine breath it will breath fire! Mine hit 260 degrees F on normal test ride. The factory setting is just too lean for any mods, it will burn up. The fuel controller and colder plug I then added brought it down to normal operating temp 220 Degrees F.
Check out the Gcube. You can see all the CPU data in real time. I leave it on RPM and Engine Temp. I love this thing as it stopped me from stupidly burning up my motor.
www.steadygarage.com/store/two-wheels/mc-parts/honda-cub-125/aracer-cube-g-ultra-compact-obd-data-gauge-2019-honda-cub-125
Thx for the ideas and the links... all good info. I purchased the service manual from Helm Inc, and the plastics were from Babbit's Honda online. How is your fuel economy after the mods... has it decreased very much? I might mod my Cub before the Scooter Cannonball Run, but I don't want the economy to suffer too much. Cheers! 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard I haven't really tracked the fuel economy. I carry an extra fuel can an haven't ridden more the 150 miles at a shot. My wife is not a supporter of moto camping.
I'll try and get some fuel runs for you when I can. Next weekend is off as I'm heading to lost trails Pa with my ATV. It will be after that.
My brother and I are playing with the idea of the scooter cannonball. My brother has our father's 1962 vespa. With our brother in Florida we rebuilt it a few years ago. Our father actually bought the thing off a mob boss in Brooklyn in 62'. It was supposed to be a hot dog wagon.
RAcoming This could’ve done with a video 👍🏻
I'm wishing for a tach on mine. Do you think a 2 1/16" round tach could be fitted into the chrome "air filter" cover? I'd look for something with a retro look and chrome bezel then mount it with an angled trim ring so the face points up a little.
I agree... it would be nice to know the rev's and how close to redline the motor is spinning. I'm sure that a small tach could be fitted, but tapping the electrical is a serious PITA because the leg shield needs to be removed to reach a +12V source (spark plug is easy, though). I tapped the +12V switched output (black wire) on the back of the ignition switch during this teardown, and I left a couple of extra pigtail taps for future projects.
I have a bad habit of giving away my ideas and then someone else creates and markets them... oh, well. My idea (plan) for the tach is to 3D print a ring that surrounds the chrome bezel around the speedo (overlays it). The ring will be translucent white (diffused) and will have a ring of NeoPixel LED's embedded in the back of it. The plan is to have a circular RPM sweep and change colors or flash for redline/shift points. The colors, brightness, and patterns could all be adjusted in software (and wirelessly), so customization should be a breeze. I'm looking for a suitable microcontroller (Arduino or similar), and I'll probably adapt or hack other open-source software to run the system. Getting into the upper housing will be a trick, though... I didn't have much luck on this occasion. Finding time to realize the project is yet another challenge. 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard I love your idea and can assure you I don't have the talent or time to swipe your idea :). But I'm a customer if you bring it to market! I might go with a small LCD tach signaled from the plug wire until then.
Very interesting! I googled the spudger tools, found a whole collection on Amazon. Do you think it's a question of the right tool for the job?
Another owner advised that he was able to remove the lower cover by sliding it rearward, so I'll try that next time if I need to get in there. 👍 --QM
? I had my first oil change on my 2019 Honda cub. They put in 10-40 oil due to the heat in Florida. Since I've had the bike, I'm having to add oil frequently. Do you have any idea what it could be. It seems I have to add oil every 130 miles or so. I'm thinking maybe I need to contact Corporate again.
Robin in Fl
I would definitely contact Honda Corporate, or take the bike to another dealer for diagnosis. You shouldn't be consuming any oil, whether leaking or burning it, on a fresh motor. Mine hasn't burned or leaked a drop yet, and I have about 2500 miles on the clock with 3 oil changes so far. --QM
Do you have any recommendations for carrying on the luggage rack? I take my cub to work and I'm trying to figure out if I should get bungie cords or some kind of basket. My cub is my first bike and I'm still trying to figure things out
That's a good question, and it's one that I don't have a good answer for... yet. I've been carrying my laptop and work gear in a GoPro Seeker backpack for the past few months, but I really don't like wearing backpacks if I can avoid it. Some people have attached milk crates to the factory rack with U-bolts and used those as general-purpose haulers. You can always put a top box on there (e.g. SHAD, Givi, etc), and those usually come with universal mounting plates or brackets that allow you to bolt the box (or carrier plate) to the rear rack. Personally, though, I don't care for the look of a top box on the Cub... it ruins the retro aesthetics of the bike. I am still hoping to find a good pannier solution that I can strap over the rear rack and then quickly remove them when I leave the bike. My first choice is the Timbuk2 Tandem Panniers, but I need to modify my side supports to work with that kit (you can see my brainstorming video on those here: ua-cam.com/video/-7ahiffWzdE/v-deo.html ). I'll be sure to post a video on my solution if/when that happens! Cheers! 👍 --QM
QuasiMotard thank you!! I appreciate these videos you post!! They've helped me loads this year! I'll keep an eye out - I don't want anything that would ruin the aesthetic either
Just got me a Super Cub and was really disappointed about the lack of carry clips or concealed luggage space. I did buy a Honda rack that attached above the back fender, but it’s small. So I was in the Dollar store the other day and they have these small plastic milk crates (for a dollar!). It fits perfectly on the rack and doesn’t look obtrusive. I pinned it down with mini bungee cords that I bought a Walmart for five bucks. It doesn’t take away from the classy Cub design and the crate actually holds quite a bit of stuff when needed. The crate itself is about 1/2 the size of the normal milk crates found at Walmart, but as I said, it holds quite a bit without being an eye sore.
Is there a place where I can buy the garnishes (those chromed out tips) on the fork cover? My left one has popped off and has gone missing.
Hmmm... that's a tough one. I think you'll be forced to buy the complete left/right fork covers to get those garnishes. Check PartZilla.com to find the part numbers, and then use Google to search for better prices. Good luck! 😉👍 --QM
Dear quasi motard, unfortunately we do not get the hunter here in Europe. Therefore the idea is to go off road with the super cub. Do you think there are fitting some parts from the hunter to the super cub? Maybe tyres, shocks exhaust? What do you think? BTW would be great to have you also on the telegram channel for super cubs.
Thanks so much. I got my Cub yesterday and don’t have the nerve to strip anything
Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad that the video is useful. This was in the early days when the shop manuals weren't available, so I wanted to share any mistakes with the community... prevent anyone from breaking stuff or making mistakes that I might have made. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I am still puzzling too, how to get the headlight silver plastic rim off.
When you manage once let us know.
Great tuttorial!
Thanks for the feedback! I haven't torn into the front housing again since this video, but I'll be sure to post another video of that saga if/when it happens. Another Cub owner replied to me via email right after this video was published, and he said that he press up/in and backward on that lower piece to make it disengage. I haven't tried that procedure, but it's worth a shot for anyone that's brave enough to break plastics on their Cub. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I am loving my cub, but the daytime visibility is only fair. I run high beam during the day and that helps, but I would like to add some kind of Amber LED wide dispersion fog lights. Not sure where or how to mount. Have you given anything like this any thought?
I was also unimpressed with the Cub's daytime visibility. I installed a set of Denali DM LED driving lights on the front forks to give more daytime conspicuity in traffic, and to add more close-field fill and reach at night. The difference is literally night and day after the upgrade. You can see the difference here: ua-cam.com/video/37BTEHXWfxU/v-deo.html .
I reused the original reflector brackets on the front forks as my mounts. I removed the reflector from the bracket and then bent the mounting edge about 90° outward and upward to allow the driving lights to clear the fork shrouds. These lights are just small enough to clear the edge of the leg shield at full left/right steering lock. You can probably find similar LED pods with changable lenses. You might take a look at these options from SuperBrightLEDs... they aren't as compact as the Denali DM's, but they are a LOT cheaper:
- www.superbrightleds.com/vehicle-lights/motorcycle/led-light-pods/led-light-pod-2-modular-led-off-road-work-light-10w-900-lumens
- www.superbrightleds.com/catalog/product/view/id/216329/s/3-led-pod-lights-20w-round-off-road-lights-yellow-lens-up-to-950-lumens-single-2-pack-plr-y20w-x/category/4163/
- www.superbrightleds.com/catalog/product/view/id/216320/s/3-led-pod-lights-20w-square-off-road-lights-yellow-lens-up-to-950-lumens-single-2-pack-pl-y20w-x/category/4163/
Cheers, and good luck shopping! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thanks man. I was eying this brackets also. I will check out those lights. Stay safe and keep the videos coming!!!
wow, that looks like a pain for sure. Did you make a video showing how you mounted your GPS and phone and lights I would love to see what you are running? Looking forward to seeing that video as I did not see it on you page
I was running out of time toward the end of that project, so I stopped recording before I got to the installation of the accessories. I do have several videos of the Cub where you can see the finished project with both the GPS and phone mounts on the handlebars. You can see the bars at the beginning of this video ua-cam.com/video/wbQWlWMA-lo/v-deo.html and again here ua-cam.com/video/H1hYXFr8qlw/v-deo.html .
The phone mount that I'm using consists following pieces:
RAM 9mm mirror mount adapter RAM-B-272U: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012TRIY4
RAM short double-socket arm: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KWPJ04 (be sure it's the one with the flat twist knob, the round knob doesn't work well)
Quad Lock 1" ball adapter mount: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F8H7VZS
The GPS is a Garmin zūmo 396LMT-S ( www.amazon.com/motocicleta-pantalla-pulgadas-resistente-tr%C3%A1fico/dp/B07C9YYDWK ) that is mounted on the same RAM ball adapter.
The driving lights are the Denali DM 2.0 ( www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/denali-dm-20-trioptic-led-light-kit-with-datadim-technology ), and I mounted those on the OEM side reflector mounts (just bent the brackets to fit and not hit the leg shield when the steering is turned to full-lock).
Let me know if you need further info or pics and I'll be happy to help! Cheers! 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard yes would love to see how you mounted the lights and know how good they work. what did you plug them into as well as your GPS what did you plug that into? I was really looking forward to the video of you showing the install of it all.
Hllo Aaron. This video has answered my question to you in a later vlog about how you installed the power supply for phone and GPS. Like another poster I think I would go down the route of external power pack for my iPhone and it’s nav app (Pocket Earth - amazing!)
Having watched you arm wrestle that Honda tupperware I’m now seriously questioning the thought of a SC. There are some interesting leads re the EU/UK importation of the CT125 ‘tho Brexit will probably screw that up! All in all the Hunter Cub sounds a far better option to me
btw. are you experiencing any engine vibes through the bars? This is an issue on various thumpers with later models of iPhone and their digital camera stabilisation system - it killed two iPhone 7 cameras for me on a BMW R1200RT ... any pre iPhone 6S Plus with their optical stabilisation seem to be exempt
Keep those action cams rolling!
Thanks for the feedback, Tony! The SC definitely has more plastic to wrestle than the classic Cubs of yesteryear. I was already planning to tear into mine to replace my damaged leg shield, so it was a good opportunity to do the wiring the "right way". However, I just helped a buddy wire a dual-USB charger on his SC direct to the battery for our recent road trip. He just plans to unplug the SAE power connector from it and use the battery side for a tender when the bike is parked for long periods.
The Super Cub is a bit vibey in the bars, but engine vibration is to be expected with a high-revving little thumper. The larger issue that I"ve noticed is road impacts coming through the bars and causing my mounts to shake violently. Now I use the Quad Lock phone mount (along with their new vibration reducer), so that should help with the damaging vibrations reaching the phone. I have been using the Samsung Galaxy series for years (currently a S10+) without any camera failures so far (fingers crossed).
As for the CT125, I already have two of them on order! I'll be sure to video that whole extravaganza... driving out to get it, signing paperwork, initial ride reviews, impressions, gripes, etc. Honda has teased us with November 2020 delivery, so we'll see how that turns out. Cheers! 👍 --QM
could you let me know were you get the super cub manual from. I live in England?
I purchased my shop manual through Helm, Inc via a referral link on Honda's website: www.helminc.com/helm/product2.asp?Make=AHC&Model=C125&Year=2019&Category=1&class%5F2=AHC&mk=Honda+Motorcycle&yr=2019&md=C125A&dt=Shop%2FService+Information&module=&from=result&Style=helm&Sku=61K0G00&itemtype=N
However, this is the link for the USA (or North American) model of the C125A, and I'm not sure if it would be applicable to your C125 in the UK. I know that your switch gear and indicators are different than ours, so there could be other differences in the manual's contents. I would suggest that you contact your dealer about ordering a service manual, or pointing you in the right direction for a source to get the correct version online. 👍 --QM
Dear Cub owner ...I also live in the UK and was just thinking of joining a 125 cub club ...Have you heard of any as Yet...Happy cubbing...
I've just priced the leg shield here in the Uk....gulp!!!!!!! Its over £325!!
The exhaust is £500!!!
How are the prices for these items in the state's??
Many thanks for good informative video. I am also interested in buying the hunter 125 but there is indication that this model will not hit the German market any time soon. I could consider buying a cub 125 but I would like to have the higher handlebars from the hunter 125. Have you been able since you uploaded your video to remove the light cover?
Thanks for the feedback! I haven't needed to go any further with the front cover teardown. If I ever do need to get in there, then I'll be sure to video that process. Another Cub owner mentioned to me that the lower cover slides rearward, so I'll give that a try if/when the time comes. Cheers! 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard I am going to rent one on Friday to how the beast is. It would though be great to able to change the handlebars if it is possible.
I have today rented the cub 125 and bike is fun as hell to drive. This dealer told me that within one or two months we know if it is hitting the European market or not.
Im a complete beginner to bikes and i wanted a super cub because i just love the look of it! But i need a bike that can get me up to 60 without question. Do you have any reccomendations on a bike that can get a 150 pound rider up to 60-65? Thanks!
The Super Cub can get you up to 60-ish mph, but it takes a while to get there because of the limited power that the engine makes (only about 8-9 HP). If you need a bike that can get you up to that speed comfortably and reasonably quickly, then you probably need to look toward the 200-300cc class motorcycles or scooters... they won't have any problems scooting around in traffic at 65 mph. My PCX150's that I have reviewed in other videos on my channel (Part 1 ua-cam.com/video/PUwpi9pv0lw/v-deo.html , and Part 2 ua-cam.com/video/XNFNX2Sdvd4/v-deo.html ) are almost fast enough, but they top out just under 65 mph. So, I don't usually like mixing with fast traffic on the PCX because it doesn't have any headroom to get out of trouble if necessary (e.g. accelerate away from cagers or get out of someone's blind spot).
If you can test ride a few scooters or motorcycles before you buy, then that's your best way to know if they will suit your riding needs. Just be sure to take your test ride on higher speed routes to see how the bike feels and to know if you're comfortable doing it. Another point to keep in mind is that most dealers are more willing to let you test ride used bikes than new bikes, and this is ONLY if you have your motorcycle endorsement and current insurance (car or bike is usually fine). Good luck in your search! 👍 --QM
Hi,
I live in South Korea. I have a 2018 Super Cub C110. It's not easy to get a service manual in English for me since they didn't release the 2018 C110 in North America. For general maintanence and basic electrical diagrams, do you think there would be much difference between the 2019 C125 model and mine? I'm no mechanic but I would like to understand the basics of this bike. Thanks! P.S. keep the super cub videos coming!
Thx for the feedback! The differences between the engine and electrical bits on the C110 vs the C125 are probably significant enough that you wouldn't want to get the C125 manual. However, you can probably find a close match with one of the UK or EU versions of the C110 manuals. The bike is largely the same across those markets with slight differences to indicator shapes/sizes and license plate mounting options. You would at least get most of the maintenance specs and procedures listed out in English, even if the cosmetic items are slightly different. Good luck! 👍 --QM
Thanks could you provide a link for your windshield and perhaps a video on how you mounted it as well? Thanks!!
Howdy! Here is the Asahi Short Visor installation video (product links are in the video description): ua-cam.com/video/O-06y9YDLec/v-deo.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Thank you so much.
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Hello from the USA! Thx for subscribing and commenting! 👍 --QM
Hey QuasiMotard, great video. I recently cracked my leg shield! Where did you get your replacement from?
I ordered a new leg shield from Babbit's Honda (if I recall correctly) because they were about $30 cheaper than other sources at that time. Here is a link to PartZilla: www.partzilla.com/product/honda/83200-K0G-900ZA . You can use that part number to search for better prices on other sites. Good luck with the replacement process... it's a pain in the butt! 🤣👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thanks so much!
I've had a look at another video showing head light housing removed, and noticed that the silver shroud around the head light is suppose to come away separately from the light fitting giving you access to the clips on the 2 parts of plastic around the light? after silver ring being removed, I'm sure it must unclip easier after the ring removed, I hope this helps if you try to attempt again.
Thanks for the tips! I received similar comments from another channel viewer that successfully tore his Cub apart, and he mentioned that his didn't give him fits like mine did. I probably didn't press in the right places or in the correct directions. Hopefully, I won't need to tear into the front nacelle, but I'll try to be more prepared next time. Cheers! 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard I would like to know how the led headlight bulbs are replace rather than having to put the bike into a bike dealer/workshop to do the work. I like you like to tackle most jobs myself, It's the only way to find out more about your bike by doing these tasks yourself. I mentioned to you I think it was around Jan/Feb that I was purchasing the New Honda Cub! Now I've had my bike for about 3 months now and I am loving it here in the UK. Don't you think the prices for some of the bike's accessories are ridiculous?
Hi, I'm writing from Italy. I own a super cub 125 and i would like to carry out some little jobs by myself. Could you let me know something about your workshop manual?
Great vid!... Have to ask if one has to go through all that just to get to the engine number - it's for registration verification purposes. Thanks in-advance!
Never mind!… didn’t have to remove anything…
What is the longest you have traveled in one day?
My longest day on the Cub's saddle so far has been ~550 miles over about 14 hours (with fuel stops and butt stretchers every 100 miles). On my bigger bikes, I've done dozens of 1000-mile days, and a couple of 1500-mile days (I don't recommend tbose).
I'm planning to do an official IBA (Iron Butt Association) Saddle Sore on the Super Cub. That's 1000 miles in 24 hours, so I'll just need to maintain an average of 50 MPH for 20 hours. 😉👍 --QM
I guess I don't understand why you replaced the white shroud. I understand your son scratched it. But bike get war wounds. It builds character. Unless your looking at selling it anytime soon. If anything I would not install the new one until the old one is totally roached. Just my opinion.
I hope they do release the Trail version. ADV are all the rage. Plus the Trail one looked more "manly". I'm actually in the process of buying a old 1981 CT110 from the original owner who got it as a gift when he was 10. It's been in storage for a decade or so. Looking forward to the fun side of riding. Currently on a 750 ACE.
I'm just OCD about scratches or damage on a new bike. I could have left it alone, but I had already ordered all of the bits several months ago, and I needed to remove the leg shield for the electrical wiring that I was installing... just a bit of disaster capitalism. Good luck on that CT110! I've been looking for one in decent condition, but didn't want to pay $3000+ for a collector-quality specimen... I plan to RIDE it! 😉
Another viewer mentioned that the CT125 is coming, so I started searching for it on the Internet. Sure enough, it's going to debut at the next Tokyo Motor Show! The prototype pictures show that it has spoke wheels, a large rear rack, and disc brakes front and rear! I'm anxious to see if that is a production-ready model... hopefully it won't take 3-4 years to reach the USA like the C125A did. We'll see... fingers crossed! 👍👍 --QM
I understand no one likes a scratch on a new motorcycle. But it will happen. Ya the CT's from the 70's and 80's draw big dollars on pristine shape. Here in Canada they are even harder to find. As most were never road certified and we're used on farms. Or up at cottages or hinting camps. Most are now found in barns. Back when they were new they were only $800. Why they aren't released here in North America I blame on bike companies. At the smaller price point they won't sell as many larger motorcycles.
As you can agree with the new Super Cub is already over priced. It's not available in Canada. I was surprised they didn't release a E-Cub.
@@QuasiMotard do you have a link for the completion of the USB wiring? I'm hoping that the bikes eventually get to Canada (although will be north of $5000 I expect). Thanks. Love the postings you've done. I've watched them all.
@@docpotts No, unfortunately I was pressed for time, so I stopped recording so I could finish the job and get on the road. The wiring was actually simple for just the USB charger piece. You can tap the solid black wire on the back of the ignition switch for your +12V switches source. I used a 3M waterproof parallel splice on that wire to feed the coil on a 12V Bosch-type relay. That relay switches my other loads (e.g. Garmin Zumo cradle, USB charger, and driving lights) direct from the battery (all fused with a dedicated 15A mini-ATC fuse). I ran the ground straight to the battery, but it could be attached to the frame ground instead. All of the wiring and relay follow the factory harnesses underneath the leg shield. The USB charger itself is mounted with zip ties behind the rubber splash guards above the airbox.
If you are just planning to do the USB charger, you could power that directly from the switched +12v line (black wire) and ground would be any nearby frame ground). If I need to take the leg shield off again, then I will certainly take pictures or video of how I routed the cabling and stuffed the relay out of the path for the leg shield. 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard I'd love to see the pictures if you do remove the front shroud. I'd love to have one of these bikes too if Honda would wake up and import them to Canada. I had one of the first 50cc models in 1960 (red) and loved it (until the 305 Dream inserted itself into my life). Thanks again.
Were do you get thoose mirrors ?
Those mirrors are the CRG HindSight Lane-Splitter mirrors. Here are the model numbers and links on Amazon (you can search the part numbers on Google to find the best prices):
Qty 1: CRG Hindsight left mirror (Part number: HSLS-200-L) : www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041CC3YE
Qty 1: CRG Hindsight right mirror (Part number: HSLS-200-R): www.amazon.com/CRG-Hindsight-Splitter-Mirror-HSLS-200-R/dp/B0041C94TG
Qty 2: CRG bar-end adapter (Part number: 0641-0013): www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001CI94DS
Cheers! 👍 --QM
Where did you get your leg shield?
I ordered my replacement leg shield through HondaPartsNation.com for a really cheap $176.81, but their price has increased now to $224.36 ( www.hondapartsnation.com/oemparts/partsearch/honda?partsearch=83200-k0g-900za ). Revzilla has the same part now for $202.06 ( www.revzilla.com/oem/honda/honda-83200-k0g-900za-shield-set-leg-pb414p-wl-pearl-retro-blue ).
I typically use PartZilla.com or BikeBandit.com for most of my parts orders, but it pays to shop around. You can use PartZilla's look up tools to get the Honda part number, and then use that to search Google for better prices. Cheers! 👍 --QM
hello, how are you, I watched your video and I felt curious and interested in what you did, can you tell me where the disassembly manual you found and its name, Thank you, good health :D
Thanks for watching! I used the factory Honda Service Manual for the Super Cub during this procedure. You can order a copy from HELM, Inc at the following link:
www.helminc.com/helm/product2.asp?Style=helm&sku=61K0G02
The reason for this disassembly was to replace a damaged leg shield and also to install some accessory wiring. I created a separate (fused) lighting and accessory circuit to power my driving lights, GPS, and phone charger for my long-distance touring needs. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Please confirm: Are ALL of those visible and colored body pieces plastic? And the only metal is the tube frame beneath them?
Yes, all exterior panels on the Super Cub are plastic except the rear fender, which is metal outer and plastic inner. --QM
Where did you get this manual shop brow?
I purchased this Honda shop manual from HELM, the USA-authorized distributor. Your region may differ, but here is the link for HELM Inc's website: www.helminc.com/helm/search_service_owner.asp?Style=g61zysahc9jvf8w&class%5F2=AHC . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard thank your very much brow...
So the trick with horn cover is to squeeze?
Sorry for the late reply. Yes, squeeze slightly and also use a plastic pry tool (e.g., credit card) to lift behind it. The cover will pop out evenly around the sides, and the two center clips (blue) will pull straight out. 👍 --QM
Maybe I missed it but where is the video where you upgraded the front lights? Looks like I'm not brave enough to do this myself. I'll break something.
Like Apple i think the idea is that these parts are supposed to break during disassembly and then replaced with new ones by Honda repairmen. That way you discourage customers from doing the repairs themselves. I hate that mentality
No, sorry... you didn't miss that one... I just didn't record that portion of the project because I was running short on time and needed to get it done. The lights that I installed are the Denali DM's, similar to this model: www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/denali-dm-20-trioptic-led-light-kit-with-datadim-technology. I snagged a clearance deal on the original version (1.0, no dimming function) for only ~$75/pair... so I bought their remaining stock of 6 kits. 😉 The lights are mounted on the original side reflector brackets that I bent to fit (mangled them into a slight "S" shape to clear the leg shield). They are secure and stay exactly where I want them. The broken mount that I experienced on my Kansas trip wasn't that bracket... it was aluminum "shoe" that bolts into the light itself that snapped off... bummer. So, I just replaced that light with one from one of the other 5 remaining kits.
The hard part about that project was tracing and tapping a switched +12V line for the relay that powers this kit. You can't get to anything useful or run your new wiring without removing the leg shield, so it's not a trivial process like most other motorcycles. The black wire on the back of the ignition switch was correct one. I didn't want to burden the little 10-amp fused circuit that runs everything else on the bike, so I tapped that black wire and fed it to a relay that switches another direct (fused) circuit from the battery to power the driving lights, the USB charger, and the Garmin Zumo GPS cradle (another 2-3 amps max). If you want to tackle a project like that without going through your dealer's service (and crazy labor fees), then your only option is to find a buddy that's mechanically-inclined and bribe him with food/beer/etc. I wouldn't recommend doing it without a shop manual, or at least an exploded parts diagram to know how everything fits together. That will spare you a lot of broken plastics and disappointment. 👍 --QM
What a nightmare these are to work on. I used to own a 2004 Honda ANF125 Innova and it was so easy to dismantle, i wonder why Honda have made these commuter 125's so difficult to remove the panels?
Agreed! I was not pleased with the difficulty in removing the leg shield from the bike. The old Super Cub (Passport was the name here in the USA back in the 80's) was very easy to maintain and tear-down when necessary... about a 5-minute job to remove the leg shield with no worry of breaking fragile little plastic tabs everywhere. I'm due for my 4K valve adjustment and my 5K service is just around the corner, so I'm not looking forward to pulling the leg shield again if I need more clearance for those tasks. 👍 --QM
Man that body work seems tedious to deal with. Yikes.
You stated in a live stream that you prefer the Super Cub over the Trail 125. From this, it seems like the Super Cub is a LOT more tedious to work on. What aspects make the Super Cub more enjoyable than the Trail? The different gearing? The different wheels? That tedious body work breaking up the wind better? What are the pros and cons of each?
The SC is a superior on-road machine compared to the CT. Routine maintenance doesn't require digging through the SC's delicate plastics very often, so I don't mind that compromise. Changing the air filter or doing valve adjustments is certainly more difficult on the SC, but it's not horrible.
Most of my riding is city commuting and touring on rural highways. I purchased the CT so I could do some minor off-roading and adventure camping. Unfortunately, the reality of adventure riding and off-road adventures is that you need to travel long distances on pavement to get out to the good off-road sections. The CT just doesn't have the chops for long, high-speed highway slogs to cross long distances or between states unless you have a LOT of patience.
Engine tuning and gearing are the primary differences between the two machines. The SC has a 14/36T ratio for better on-road performance, and the CT has a 14/39T ratio for better low-end torque and off-road riding. The engines are virtually identical between the two, but the CT's intake and exhaust have been tuned for more mid-range torque and less top-end power to suit off-road riding. That means the CT will strain to achieve or maintain higher speeds on the road because it doesn't have enough power on top and it "runs out of gear" before the SC does.
The CT's top speed on the highway generally hovers in the 50-53 MPH range on flat ground, so that limits your options for which roads can be traveled safely. On the other hand, the SC can reliably travel 55-60 MPH on the highway (up to 65 MPH sustained in most circumstances), so the choice of roads is easier and safer. The leg shield on the SC gives slightly better aerodynamis and protection from the elements than the naked CT, so that's another benefit for long rides. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thank you for the informative and thoughtful response! I know that I shouldn't be paying attention to either of them, but dammit they look fun! :D
The CT appeals to me due to it looking so much like a BMX bike, giving the sense of it being something that you could just throw around and not care about it getting dinged. I also like the idea of something that could do more in general than my Sportster, and be a lot less intimidating for getting slow speed maneuver practice or potentially helping my wife learn to ride (she's only 5' 11" tall, but so is Cheyleesi, and she just got a Trail). Also, the idea of being able to ride something up onto the sidewalk at my condo has a certain appeal, and the throw-around, easy storage aspect seems lessened with the SC.
That said, I really just don't ride on any trails. For 99% of my intended riding, the SC probably would be better suited. It'd be nice to have something where I'd be less alarmed by gravel roads (the Metzeler CruiseTec tires on my Sporty are awesome on pavement, but terrible for anything loose). I dunno. Probably never gonna happen, but man oh man these look fun.
Thanks again!
Miss the screw era...
Max Speed ? About?
I have reached 71-72 MPH (114 km/h) with my Cub several times: ua-cam.com/video/r9L6Hk0kO90/v-deo.html , and ua-cam.com/video/37BTEHXWfxU/v-deo.html . Cheers! 👍 --QM
I won a 2020 super Cub in a bike building contest hosted by Paul Tutel Jr. My latest video goes over it all but as a new Honda Cub owner I may have some questions for you.
Sorry for the late reply... I'm just getting back to the editing station after my last couple of road trips. 😉 You WON a Super Cub?!!! That's awesome! Let me know if you have any questions and I'll be glad to help if I can. I should be receiving my Trail 125 (CT125 Hunter Cub) sometime soon, so I'll be modifying that for long-distance riding and adventure camping. We will be out riding and motocamping in the Ozarks and eastern Texas forests (Davy Crockett and Sabine National Forests) quite often. Cheers! 👍
@@QuasiMotard sweet!
Another approach is to simply run a wire externally, and secure it well. Much simpler, and still hidden clear up to the top of the leg shield assembly.
More importantly, if you connect this wire directly to the battery, you now have a constantly hot wire running through the hardware and wiring harness. This means that when it chafes and wears, (and, that IS when, NOT if) you have (1) a battery drain, and (2) a fire hazard even when the bike is unattended in the garage. Attaching to the alternator/generator means you will have power whenever the engine is running, and none with the engine isn’t running. Just a recommendation - and a safety warning.
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wow, 200 dollars for a leg shield isn't cheap as I would expect, plus it's not exactly easy to remove either. I'm mean its not rocket science but when I think about my old Honda C70 they really complicated the things a bit. I still tempted to get one but I'm patiently waiting for the CT125 I think it will suit me better and it's way more practical, even if it will be a bit more expensive than the Super Cub.
Agreed! I was a little shocked at how expensive the leg shield cost, then REALLY shocked at how difficult it was to remove. I had a Honda CT90 and a CT110 back in the mid-1980's (no leg shield), and several friends had the Honda Passports (same as the Cub with a leg shield). The old Cubs and Passports could be stripped down in less than 3 minutes with no broken plastics or headaches. The new CT125 will be a simpler bike to work on because of its simplicity... no extra plastics or bodywork to wreck or remove. 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard at first I didn't understand why you replaced the fairing in the first place, I thought it was cracked but it seems it had only scratched on the edges. I would just leave it there and replace it when it cracks ore a part got missing lol
No había necesidad de hacer eso la súper cub está nueva
¡No, no entiendes a los hombres! Nuevo o no, siempre encontramos algo que hacer en las motos;)
After viewing all the issues with parts removal I came to the conclusion a 10,000 or15,000 mAh Powerbank battery and a solar panel to drive the accesories would be a simpler solution
Yep, that would definitely be easier. I don't regret installing the electrical bits that I have already done, but I wouldn't recommend pulling that leg shield unless you really need to. I'm not looking forward to doing that again if the need arises. 😉 --QM
Я все равно когда нибудь его куплю... А пока у меня мой любимый Cub50 карбюратор
Поздравляем с приобретением Cub 50cc! Новый C125 - отличный байк, но пластик очень трудно удалить. У меня на Cub уже почти 5000 миль (8000 километров). Это отличное развлечение, и я не могу дождаться, чтобы отправиться в еще одну долгую поездку. Ваше здоровье! 👍 --QM
i don have that book :((
If you feel like learning how to take apart plastic body coverings on scooters , bikes - take apart a Suzuki Bergman 650 .
LOL! No thanks... been there, done that! I owned two Burgman 650's, and I still have a Honda SilverWing 600 in the stable. I'd rather give myself a vasectomy with a dull, rusty spoon than take the front fairing off of those scoots again! They are interlocking plastic tab Hell. 🤣👍 --QM
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Not a bad bike for 3500 bucks
Agreed! How are you getting along with your Cub, Sam? Any good trips or hammock hangs lately? I have another Super Cub camping trip video that I hope to have edited and uploaded this weekend. I was planning to head to Hutchinson, KS for a 1500-mile round-trip, but that trip didn't happen (details to follow). Instead, I decided to head out to Davy Crockett National Forest and hang out for a while over the Labor Day weekend. That was a ~400 mile trip, so now I have a clearer picture of what I'll need to add to my Cub for the Scooter Cannonball Run before next year: a wider seat (or seat cushion) and highway pegs. We'll see how that goes. 😉👍 --QM
QuasiMotard I am like you I’ve got four and five other bikes but the cub is the one I’ve been riding pretty much all summer. I saw the 2020s are going to be in red and it’s been announced they are definitely coming out with the trail… Believe me I am going to be first in line.
If it ain't broke don't fix it..
TO MUCH PLASTIC FOR MY TASTE !! Like the trail much more !!
This POOR bike has seen more 'wear and usage' LOL...than if it was merely ridden for 10,000 miles...because of all the tear downs and parts flying off, by the owner, LOL! Poor bike... The bike is thinking it should have hidden in a corner in Thailand....
LOL! You think my Cub had it rough before? Wait until you see what torture it has seen lately! I just returned from a 9600+ mile trip around the USA while pulling a trailer behind it! Now that's some real work for a little 125 to endure. It never skipped a beat... absolutely zero mechanical issues or failures during an entire month of wide-open-throttle torture.
I abused it through wind and rain, coast to coast, saw water on 3 coasts of the USA, crossed the Rocky Mountains, crossed the Continental Divide twice, the Mojave Desert, and nearly dropped it into the Grand Canyon. That's one tough little machine! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard I actually want to get one, if not for the direct benefit of 125 MPG! Put a basket on it...do errands, go shopping, travel by county roads....and with gas already at $6.21 a gallon for regular...makes a lot of sense to me. Buy for $4,000.00 CDN, and will be paid off in no time. Problem...Honda is not selling them in Canada. Canadian dealers are pissed right off, at this decision. So are we prospective wanna-own's. Yeah, you can try to buy and import into Canada, but you can run into Warranty problems and such (I spec'ed that out). So...you're killing me with all these vids1 LOL. Perhaps Honda will have a change of heart....my other ride is a 2018 Yamaha Star Venture Trans Continental. This would be for sheer economy, to own.