Hermaeus Mora is the lord of Knowledge... and that knowledge apparently extends to knowing about the 4th wall. Whenever the Dovahkiin encounters him in first-person mode, his shifting mass of eyes will, of course, be watching the Dovahkiin. But if you are in third-person mode or otherwise mover the camera around... his eyes will instead be following the viewpoint of the player, not the character they're playing. HERMAEUS MORA IS WATCHING YOU.
Holy shit... now I know what I shouldn't do when I'm talking to him. I don't know why but I can't stand more than a few seconds looking at Mora myself. A bit like the rule of "Don't even risk a look at an Outer or Elder God unless you want to drown in madness".
yo....... fuck you!, but thank you.. I have no way of see this again since I've gotten all black books already.. and I dont want to start a new record..
I was playing around with the camera to get a good screenshot of Apocrypha while Herma-Mora was there, and his eye followed me. While my character was literally on the other side (I mean I was behind Herma-Mora from my character's perspective). Creepy...
That's an amazing detail. I never knew this before. Also I'm placing my bet now, I bet peryite is an argonian, since they're reptilian like dragons, and of course peryite looks like a dragon. Just makes sense to me.
My first encounter with him, in that mad hermit's cave, was one of the few really unsettling moments of the game. I was heading for the exit when I noticed, from a distance, that the doorway appeared to have become a fuzzy, pulsating shape. "Must be a glitch," I thought, continuing along the ledge, assuming it would just resolve itself into a familiar, solid door shape as I got close. When it started speaking to me, I very nearly soiled my underwear.
I just realized the Ogma Infinium skin texture literally looks like the same skin color of each elven race. Should've known that when the quest requires me to take blood from each elven race.
I got the quest and I was like "Hell no that'll take too long" and proceeded to 100 % the dawnguard questline. I got the blood on accident and my sneak increased to 53 because of the book. I have no clue where my sneak was at before but I think it was at 40 something. I have no clue.
@@samueltober202 i got my sneak to 100 just by crouching, leaving the game alone for a bit, and reloading the save. In doing so it also broke my game because I wasnt able to stand back up. Had to redo my entire build again.
@@nicolaschaigneau2001 Indeed that would make sense. But using each elven race just to substitute for dwemer blood? I wonder what that could mean. I also wonder if the Sea Elves have any part in any of this.
They should have had a short quest where you can take the mead to him and he’ll thank you for it, also idk if he is maryable but they could make that how he becomes maryable cuz that’s how romance be in Skyrim 😂
Fun fact, the detail of Mora recognizing you after defeating Miraak can be reversed. If you complete Discerning The Transmundane before facing Miraak, at the end of the fight, Mora will point out to Miraak that he already knew of his escape attempt and that he already had a champion to replace him, you. If at the end of the Transmundane quest you declared that you refuse to be his champion, Mora will tell you that he will get what he wants anyway, and after killing Miraak, he will effectively say "I told you so"
Meridia: Cleanse my temple! Mehrunes Dagon: Assemble my razor, kill Silus and fight these Dremoras! Hircine: Literally end this werewolf's whole career Hermaeus Mora: Can you get my book...?
I really liked the voice work for Hermaeus. The patterns of its speech. How it would sound sing songy but occasionally give a guttural deep tone depending on the word or its mood.
My theory on who locked away the oghma infinium is the hero of kvatch. They did possess the book at the time of the oblivion crisis and went on to mantle Sheogorath so maybe they/he/whatever type of cheese sheogorath chooses to identify as locked it away to play a prank on Hermaeus Mora.
Yeah that would make sense as sheogorath literally states in ESO he likes to steal his other more serious siblings toys to keep them on their toes still think he is the most powerful dedric prince like how do you trick an all knowing being lol
according to "Aedra and Daedra" Daedra are incapable of creating anything, and can only change things, so I always assumed that most lesser daedra we meet used to be some sort of human, mer or animal
You're both right and wrong. In lore daedra are incapable of creating anything they are only capable of changing things that already exist. Lesser deadra however have existed for just as long as the princes, they haven't been created by them, they are just less powerful
@@accountsfromalonelystoryte5350 This. Daedric Princes can shape the animus of a Daedra and most sentient lesser Daedra can change their own form at will, but they can't be created or destroyed. Lesser Daedra are original spirits that refused to follow the Aedra in creating Mundus.
I love Hermaeus Mora. His voice is so calming. I was so happy when I got to see him again in the Dragonborne DLC. I also love that you get to visit his realm.
Dude I totally agree. Sometimes I get annoyed at how slow he talks but it isn't that bad because at least his voice is calming. If I had to choose between listening to a lecture in Potions by Severus Snape or Hermaeus Mora, I'd choose Herma-Mora in a heartbeat. I also think the way Hermaeus speaks slowly is for ✨ dramatic effect ✨
Okay, I wouldn't share a bedroom with him. But besides that he seems like a decent fellow. And with all his knowledge he should know that his appearance isn't super comfortable.
This is gonna sound a bit twisted but what if…it’s made from all types of races? Like Orcs, Elves, Nords, Imperials??? What if they were made from…his servants?? Probably not, hopefully not. I just eW-
Fun facts from Discerning the Trasmundane: if you do this quest before the Dragonborn DLC, when you first meet Hermaeus Mora in Apocrypha, he acknowledges you as his champion. Also, in vanilla Skyrim and before Dragonborn was released, Hermaeus Mora appeared as a kind of conjuration spell instead of the tentacle and eye things. Pretty cool.
Only if you acknowledge him at the end of the quest. If you say "I'll never serve you demon..." He mocks you and says the lure of knowledge was too great for you to not succumb.
15:20 It’s the same as with Namira’s shrine/altar. When one uses the detect life spell or aura whisper in that cave one can see there’s someone INSIDE the wall. A dark elf - i think - who acts as the npc necessary for Namira’s dialogue.
The first time I saw this guy I was walking out of that ice cave and I looked away from my laptop to drink some water and I looked back and there he was! I screamed a little bit.
When I saw him for the first time (which was during the Dragonborn DLC if I'm not mistaken) I was like: "ok, the tentacles here and there on this place didn't scare me at all... but a guy with lots of eyes and tentacles... **clears throat and whispers** I'm fucked, aren't I...?"
mgunter yes he did! And voice actor! He was just a voice that was almost lazily dubbed to be deeper and monstery and he was almost the same as a ward spell
He did, I remember when I first played Skyrim it had no dlc's, and Mora appeared as a floating black mist? When I played again after getting a version that had the dlc's I did the oghma infinium quest before the Dragonborn dlc, so I was pretty fucking surprised to find a mass of tentacles and eyeballs.
I love how Nate actually cares about the details more than bethesda nowadays. He can talk about a rock and make it sound trully interesting, This channel channel is so good and I must say that Nate does amazing work doing these videos, keep it up man.
@@hankhell7586 well, milking skyrim (i know, it's a very good game), their recent games (fallout 76 had and still has a shit ton of flaws, they released way before they should've, but managed to fix that, then they fucked up again with collector edition, etc...) New wolfenstein hadn't exactly the best idea introducing co op, rpg elements... But hey, at least Doom is still good.
@@drinkyxcy6622 they just released an enhanced version of Skyrim on new consoles. Not really milking it.. despite what the Bethesda hater sheep say. Wolfenstein was still great despite its very minor faults and doom is amazing Still, they haven't shown that they don't care about older scrolls lore whatsoever
The Oghma Infinium is bound with the skins of different mer races, which is also a reference to the quest where you have to collect the blood of falmer, orcs, bosmer, dunmer and altmer in order to get at the book.
I can't remember if you've covered it already, but a tiny detail: in the hills next to the Twilight Sepulchre is a creepy fairy ring of White Cap mushrooms. In the centre is a Staff of Flames, an archery skill book called The Father of Niben, a single glass arrow, a bloody skull and a big blood splatter. No theories, just creeped out.
Does this mean that the orc who keeps the Winterhold college library might be either secret champion of Hermaeus Mora or maybe even Hermaeus itself? He even says that you should think of his library as a his own dimension of Oblivion.
Something I just noticed about the seeker's face and Mirak's mask are that they look extremely similar. Edit:When the hell did this comment get so popular?
Christ you all think I'm a pervert! That's grim! All I want is a hug and maybe a quick 'shag'/'pump' lol sorry about the last part I'm being a sick Haha!
One thing some players may not know is, if you do it right, you can keep the Oghma Infinium. Normally, if you use the book, it disappears after you close your inventory. However, if you close the book, then drop it without closing your inventory, you can pick it back up and store it with your other books in your home.
If TES6 allows us to import our previous saves (something Bethesda should've done with the other games as well) Hermaeus Mora should tell us details about the Dragonborn that only we know from our playthrough (but has been lost in time) And yes, it would be great to have some import feature for the other games as well. Imagine if Skyrim Sheogorath makes references to Oblivion's Shivering Isles DLC or if Jiub would mention our Morrowind adventures.
@@Garfork I was just trying to complement the thing about Hermaeus Mora,H.P was not just Racist,he was Xenophobic and had Social Anxiety as well,it was mostly due to his Family and how he was Raised,Racism had no repercussions or Punishments before a little before the 21th century and even judging it with today's Punishments for it he wouldn't have much trouble,he at most said something like: "These Black People shouldn't be here" or "Damm all those people that weren't born in the UK"
@@hillmannic I say that latter for Mora knows much more than nate could possibly ever imagine. He knows past, present, future, what you did with that naked corpse and that cheese wedge, what Todd Howard's secret tactic was in the chess club and the Metacritic score for TESVI
@@metetural9140 also note... mora and his black books... are in a way literally the opposite of existence.. elderscrolls contain everything that is and ever was. ... vs black books.. everything that isnt but could have been... it was another video... on mora.. butt his potentional unique origin and how he came to be.. and it implied he wasnt born/created/came to being the way other deadra did... its years old.. and i dont remember it.. butt it was very interesting.... if u havent seen.. i hope u come across it lol
As a book collector, I was actually really dissapointed when I saw Apocrypha. I mean, it looks cool and stuff, but for a huge extradimensional library with all sorts of forbidden knowledge in its sortiment, I found the amount of actual books in there really underwhelming to say the least. Also, the few books you can find there aren't any special, most shelfs in the back room of a tavern hold a bigger range of documents than Apocrypha as a whole. Would've been nice if the devs had added some special ones just for it, preferably written in an unknown sign language of some sort, so the lore nerds would've something to chew on and to give us a feeling why some individuals actually spent years in Apocrypha for their studies only to become insane in the process. If that's too time consuming, just copying some books of older TES games and adding them only to Apocrypha would've done the deal as well, that's basically about one hour of work for an intern. That's sadly a missed opportunity there.
@@ladyselin35 Man, Apocrypha is made out of the rarest books in Nirn's history. Even the walls and corridors are entirely made out of books, and then you're only able to pick up a fucking copy of The Argonian Maid somewhere from a table. Also, the difference between your example and what I said is that in real life, you can actually leave that streat and go somewhere else to get those books you want. That option doesn't exist in the game, since what we got of Apocrypha is all that is accessable. The sole imagination of the possibility that other (inaccessable) parts of Apocrypha are stuffed with more knowledge doesn't help me at all in a game.
@@GodlordBazi Not just the rarest books in Nirn's history. Also books from outside Nirn's history. He has literally cut content there. And I don't mean content that got cut out during the creation of Skyrim the game, but stuff that was cut when the Aedra created Nirn.
Who else remembers before the instalation of the dragonborn dlc, when Hermaeus mora wasn't a lump of tentacles, but a blue mass of energy kind of like the Augur of Dunlain.
@@eltonj888 Wretched Abyss is an apparition of Hermaeus Mora. It appears as a purple portal with a black center, similar to that of summoning creatures from Conjuration. Its appearance changes with the Dragonborn add-on installed to a being of grotesque eyes and tentacles.
Might have been an update, earlier any then DLC though. I have only ever had the Wretched Abyss version of him, didn't get Dawnguard and Hearthfire till last year and still don't have Dragonborn.
After a couple decades the kind of knowledge he would tell would slowly turn you into something that loses connection to reality. All very lovecraftian indeed.
Meanwhile Hermaous is out here just casually asking you want to be friends and doesn’t care if you refuse, he even helps you out in Dragonborn. Mora may be the chillest Daedra ever.
The doors of oblivion is one of my utterly favorite books in game. So cool to hear someone talk about it. To be fair I don't watch a lot of skgrim vids so it probably has been brought up before but its just so cool and creepy
I like the fact that he will always look towards the camera even when it's not the Dragonborn's viewpoint, suggesting that he knows that we're there, watching him as he speaks to the Dragonborn. It's possible he might know that he's in a game...
Just a quick fun fact about the vanilla quest for herma mora, if you don’t have the Dragonborn dlc he will appear as a ball of white/blueish light in that quest. If you do have the dlc then the devs changed it to the tentacles and eyes you see in the video
Vertuben Flugen I was hoping so too! I found him to be extremely more interesting out of all of the Dadric Princes; his character just make it seem far more intimidating than Molag Bal and Mehrunes Dagon because of his knowledge. 😶 I feel like there is a lot more than Hermaeus Mora is letting on.
@@At0mic_W1ldz of course there is more than that herma-mora lets us know. he would have told us how to ascend into godhood if we simply asked for that.
@@holczy_ So what you're saying is that Herma-Mora could (and almost definitely would) answer whatever question LDB asked, but LDB didn't have enough imagination? Seems legit.
I've litteraly read all of Lovecrafts works (that I know of) and he does explain some of what's in the necronomicon. It serves as both an Encycolpedia of Great Old Ones/Outer Gods, and as an instruction manual on how to summon or communicate with them.
I found a cool weapon that very few people may have heard of. It's called the bow of the hunt, and is found in clearspring tarn, south of the atronach stone. It has an enchantment which allows it to do an extra 20points of damage to animals. It has a base damage of 11.
Hermaeus Mora is probably the Daedric prince that i consider the most fascinating. Such vast quantities of knowledge packed away in Apocrypha. And he himself being so mysterious. Aside from that void form with eyes and tentacles he takes on when conversing with a mortal, there really isn`t any who knows what he truly looks like.
it occurs to me that that Orc could be worked into Hermaeus Mora's lore as "the voice of Knowlage" that he has been altered by Hermaeus Mora to act as his voice when talking to mortals because his true voice would literally blow a mortals mind (like why god in the Christian faith speaks through the Metatron)
Bethesda also changed the dialogue in Oblivion in context to the quest at Sheogorath's Shrine, and The Shivering Isles expansion in a similar vein as they did with "Transmuting the Mundane" and Dragonborn DLC. Should you complete that DLC's main quest line before interacting with Sheogorath's Shrine...the Madgod's servant Haskiil will speak instead...opening up with (Spoiler) "Praying to yourself?! Well, I suppose that's fitting; you are the god of madness after all"...at the quest's conclusion, instead of the previous Sheogorath rewarding you with his staff, Wabbajack; Haskiil will merely congratulate you on finishing that pesky business that your predecessor failed to bother with before reminding you that you left *your* staff behind in your realm; and gives you "your" staff back. Also, this means that in Skyrim, when you get into Sheogorath's Daedric Quest... you're speaking to your character from Oblivion: The Hero of Kvatch.
@@idnyftw Is it, though? The hero of Kvatch surely wasnt also the leader of every single guild. How can we be sure it wasnt canon for a different person to have done each of these quest lines? The oblivion gate threat was urgent and it's hard to picture someone doing it on the side. I can see The Champion of Cyrodiil becoming Sheogorath like Tiber Septim becoming The Divine Talos(likely a fated incarnation, considering his blood was divine-aligned BEFORE ascension). The mantle of Hero-God probably existed well before Talos of Atmora when one considers that each god-like is an embodiment of some universal alignment.
@@idnyftw Actually, i take it back. If the Champion of Cyrodiil did do all these seemingly conflicing things... becoming a hero, villain, prodigy, petty taskmaster, etc. They may be suitable for the mantle of Mad God. I'll just take it as he/she did it BEFORE the emperor was assassinated or during some peaceful delays.
@@gabbonoo I sort of have this kind of funny headcanon about the Empire having a prison education program so good they'd occasionally have inmates who just break out and become hyper-competent mythic figures.
Mora was always my favorite because of his Lovecraftian attributes and his hilarious voice, also his lore is sick as hell and the black books were super fun to run through.
And here I thought my library card and the internet granted me access to almost infinite wisdom, and these get their comeuppance by a creepy mass of talking tentacles in the end
For the last point, i already knew it without looking for it in purpose. See, i love the "Aura whisper" shout, and "yell" it everythime to not get caught by surprise. During molag Bal's mace quest, you can actually detect Bal's NPC in a room near the altar. Thanks to console commands, i flew there, and discovered it.
"... That functions as a giant, twisted library, where rooms are separated by a giant sea of ink and tentacles." nate are you describing apocrypha or my house?
I still love being Sheogorath in Oblivion and doing the Sheogorath quest chain...they're always pretty good about continuity when it comes to expansions.
I finally started writing elder scrolls fanfic, and I’ve got a couple of daedric princes so far. One, who for right now I’m calling Y’Krys, is the prince of darkness, instinct, and the unknown. Part of his lore is that he has a hidden but very volatile rivalry with Mora as tentacle man tries to understand Y’Krys.
I played a great old one warlock that had a pact with Hermaeus Mora. she had proficiencies in all the "knowledge" skills and literally knew everything. knowing all the secrets of the omniverse drove her insane. she dug out her own eyes (later gaining blindsight as a eldritch evocation (DM house rule)). when ever she failed a knowledge based skill check (she knows everything but still needs to be able to relay it) she suffered a random temporary insanity. that was a fun character.
I’m playing Skyrim for the very first time and it came with the Dragonborn dlc. I did actually defeat mirak first, and was surprised to hear mora reference that! Didn’t know it was a rarer dialogue
I reckon Nate should do a 10 tiny details you may have missed in Oblivion or Morrowind?? It'd be sick, just start doing videos about them on other topics! THIS MUST HAPPEN
@@davidpilger4136 Technically, he finishes knowing It. Even the Skaal's prophecies say that Hermaeus Mora would eventually win and get their secret knowledge.
Another great vid Nate. I wanted to throw out there that, while not an exact synonym, I've always considered Mora's black book "The Sallow Regent" to be a nod to the Lovecraft universe's "The King in Yellow".
The author HP Lovecraft suffered from an extreme form of waking nightmares known as night terrors and a lot of them made it into his work. A very interesting individual and an all-around great read. It's nice to see some homage paid to him in a videogame.
He was also great friends with Robert E. Howard, author of Conan the Barbarian (Cimmarian) stories. Technically speaking, Conan's adventures are all in the same universe as Lovecraft's elder god's.
@@TSotP Aye and another terrific author. My bio-dad has almost the whole collection of old Conan the Barbarian comics in plastic sleeves, the artwork on the covers are still crisp with zero fade.
"Thousands and thousands of years." This is like the thousandsth time I've heard this even though the timeline is very clear about the lengths of the eras. ESO starts 2E 583. The second era ends 2E897, about 314 years later. The third era is 433 years long, bringing us to 747 years so far. Skyrim starts 201 years into the fourth era, making it a rough total of 948 years. And the other ES games happen before Skyrim, making none of them even a thousand years.
As right as that math probably is (I'll happily just assume youre right) people and Nate will continue to say thousands and thousands of years. Sorry, bro.
As far as I know (not trying to doubt your math) the dwemer disappeared 4,000 years before the events of Skyrim. I believe that was the beginning or ending of the first era. Maybe thats why people say thousands? Though the way they say it annoys me because 4,000 technically isn't that big of a time gap and doesn't warrant the "thousands upon thousands" mantra
With Hermaus Mora, THIS is exactly why the engine needs to be replaced. The fact that they couldn't simply subclass NPC, make a new NPC type, and then disable certain collisions / damage events, is kind of absurd. The "script redirect" to this hidden NPC is really kind of dumb and shows the engine is quite rigid, for a basic example. While easily "fixed" by this hack, it's a clear example that they can't merely make a subclass NPC in code, and just wire that up in the engine.
Hermaeus Mora is a combination between hentai and modern day surveillance. Edit: Hermaeus Mora has the same voice actor as Sheogorath. Wes Jonson. I feel like that was intentional. Get the mad god to voice the god who causes madness.
I would say Dagon is the one to cause madness. Mora is more of the quiet one who only gets involved in affairs on Nirn when it bothers him Edit: and as we all know Wes Johnson is Sheogorath's physical form in the real world
@@windhelmguard5295 technically, Herma is the Daedric Prince of secrets and knowledge, so "Hermaeus Secrets" is slightly barely ironic. I do understand how you see that and I don't disagree.
Yeah, year later.. But actually I've noticed something about seekers. Miraaks mask was Moras gift for his champion. And it looks surprisingly similar to seekers head.
Not many things in a game can scare me, but I had a mini heart attack when I saw Hermaeus Mora for the first time. I’m curious what humanoid form he’d take if he chose to. Probably dressed like a mage.
Well it wasn't the Dwemer who put the Oghma Infinium in the box. The Dwemer were long gone way before it was put in. The last carrier of the book before the Dragonborn (from what we know) was the Hero of Kvatch. And he became Sheogorath so my theory is that Sheogorath put the Oghma Infinium into the box to annoy Hermaeus Mora
Probably is Bethesda's way of telling that the dragon shouting thing attracted the attention of a random secret admirer on a particular province. Bugged as usual. But this is the boring explanation we all think at first, and I agree, speculate seems so more... sweet.
Great video. My mind was blown when I discovered the three variations of when you walk into Apocrypha as well. I really wasn't expecting HM to greet me with "I told you so" after i told him to suck it on Skyrim.
I know he’s horrible, but I find Hermeus Mora to be extremely interesting and I really like him. He’s super unique and I always look forward to seeing him in the game because I want to see what I can learn from his words, what can be inferred, etc. He’s simply fascinating to me ☺️ I also just like how he looks. Lol
man there’s so much juicy lore in all these random in-game books, I wish I didn’t only come across them clearing dungeons.... hard to imagine just chilling out next to a bunch of fresh corpses to sit and read
The very first time I came upon him in the icy cave place, I literally could not look at him. I had to distract myself with my followers following my every step and standing right in my face, my phobias were not prepared for that dude to show up out of nowhere when I was just gonna leave the cave to finish the quest.
It's a shame Tony Jay wasn't alive when casting for Mora's VA was done. He already did a fantastic job of playing one omnipotent tentacle monster, he would have been incredible here. If anyone wants an idea, just look up videos of the Elder God from Soul Reaver.
Join the Discord, cowards!
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What do you do on your discord I’m not too familiar
Nate, I have an new adjective for how big Skyrim is that you haven’t used yet:
Skyrim is a Skyrim-sized game.
Just some guy x=x^x
Better to be a coward than a milk-drinker
Hermaeus Mora is the lord of Knowledge... and that knowledge apparently extends to knowing about the 4th wall.
Whenever the Dovahkiin encounters him in first-person mode, his shifting mass of eyes will, of course, be watching the Dovahkiin. But if you are in third-person mode or otherwise mover the camera around... his eyes will instead be following the viewpoint of the player, not the character they're playing.
HERMAEUS MORA IS WATCHING YOU.
Nice catch, probably just a little oversight on the devs part but still really creepy/interesting nonetheless
Holy shit... now I know what I shouldn't do when I'm talking to him.
I don't know why but I can't stand more than a few seconds looking at Mora myself. A bit like the rule of "Don't even risk a look at an Outer or Elder God unless you want to drown in madness".
yo....... fuck you!, but thank you.. I have no way of see this again since I've gotten all black books already.. and I dont want to start a new record..
I was playing around with the camera to get a good screenshot of Apocrypha while Herma-Mora was there, and his eye followed me. While my character was literally on the other side (I mean I was behind Herma-Mora from my character's perspective). Creepy...
It's not a bugg, it's a feature
Hermaeus Mora: "I am the guardian of knowledge and fate! Pay no attention to the orc behind the mountain!"
Metal Sonic nice job picking up on that very obvious reference
Metal Sonic that was the joke, I think.
Beat me to the joke.
I spawned him in and he was a naked orc xD I killed him.
'I'm a very good Orc - I'm just a very bad Daedric Prince!'
All the daedra have hidden NPCs. Azura is a dunmer, Meridia is an altmer. If you get them all in the same room, Malacath attacks the others.
LOL
That's an amazing detail. I never knew this before.
Also I'm placing my bet now, I bet peryite is an argonian, since they're reptilian like dragons, and of course peryite looks like a dragon. Just makes sense to me.
Rip
I believe Namira is a Dunmer.
Yea but mephala is a stool
My first encounter with him, in that mad hermit's cave, was one of the few really unsettling moments of the game. I was heading for the exit when I noticed, from a distance, that the doorway appeared to have become a fuzzy, pulsating shape. "Must be a glitch," I thought, continuing along the ledge, assuming it would just resolve itself into a familiar, solid door shape as I got close. When it started speaking to me, I very nearly soiled my underwear.
Yeah freaked me the fuck out when i saw him for the first time, and his voice, makes my skin crawl
@@camzilla_does_music834 agreed, best voice acting in the game
Yea I've met him at that same moment for the first time too, but well
He was tentacles and I was freaking tf out
especially since I was in vr
I thought it was a glitch too lol I was so surprised
But did you side with him or against him is the question ❓
I just realized the Ogma Infinium skin texture literally looks like the same skin color of each elven race. Should've known that when the quest requires me to take blood from each elven race.
I got the quest and I was like "Hell no that'll take too long" and proceeded to 100 % the dawnguard questline. I got the blood on accident and my sneak increased to 53 because of the book. I have no clue where my sneak was at before but I think it was at 40 something. I have no clue.
The only reason you need those different bloods is because you can't have access to dwemer blood to unlock the cube.
Woah. How did he get Falmer skin though? And where is the skin of Dwemer and Dunmer?
@@samueltober202 i got my sneak to 100 just by crouching, leaving the game alone for a bit, and reloading the save. In doing so it also broke my game because I wasnt able to stand back up. Had to redo my entire build again.
@@nicolaschaigneau2001 Indeed that would make sense. But using each elven race just to substitute for dwemer blood? I wonder what that could mean. I also wonder if the Sea Elves have any part in any of this.
Nate only knows these because he is Hermaus Mora
Stop thief you violated the snitch law, it’s been to long since I’ve seen a good brawl.
You’ve committed crimes against Skyrim and her people. What say you in your defense?
@@Luther3275 Pay my bounty (69 gold)
@@Luther3275
(Resist arrest)
Lydia Nelson I’m just warming up you pathetic worm
This is interesting and all, but... You see those redguards from Hammerfell? They’ve got curved swords. Curved. Swords
"They've got penises. Big. Curved. Penises"
@@StrangeTamer178 I got that SOS add-on
@@StrangeTamer178 damn right !
Yes but I have a twisted and cyrved sword
@@StrangeTamer178 hehehe... That's for d_ mn sure.
Ow! Ow! Ow! Ow!
Last time I was this early Ralof was drinking mead with juniper berries
Only nate viewers will understand
Genji Master No, only people who remember that dialogue from Ralof will understand..
One of the greatest comments I've come across.
They should have had a short quest where you can take the mead to him and he’ll thank you for it, also idk if he is maryable but they could make that how he becomes maryable cuz that’s how romance be in Skyrim 😂
Psst, want some skooma
Nate: "they resemble a Cross between man and octopus"
Seeker: "do you fear death?"
pirates of the Caribbean reference noice
Read it in his voice. Love that actors' voice
Don't forget the hobo-looking appearances. I've been waiting for one to ask me for gold.
Read this in Davy's voice 🤣 I think that was the best comment on this yt
You have no idea.
Fun fact, the detail of Mora recognizing you after defeating Miraak can be reversed. If you complete Discerning The Transmundane before facing Miraak, at the end of the fight, Mora will point out to Miraak that he already knew of his escape attempt and that he already had a champion to replace him, you.
If at the end of the Transmundane quest you declared that you refuse to be his champion, Mora will tell you that he will get what he wants anyway, and after killing Miraak, he will effectively say "I told you so"
i once had a theory about that
didnt know it was a fact
"human characteristics like arms and thumbs"
_frost trolls have entered the chat_
Come back once you find two more fingers per hand and loose and eye.
@@insaincaldo _werewolves have entered the chat_
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Ah yes the man wolf, I wonder why they would have human features.
@@insaincaldo _Mer have entered the chat_
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz ...Now listen here you little shit..
#6: Hermaues Mora has a secret champion, Nate who he bestowed the ogma infinum of tiny details.
He, the one who possesses the foreskin book may enlighten us
Donuts no no no no no no
Jim Hickman yes
Donuts you’ve made me absolutely hate it, that’s what the girl in the meme was running from, The Foreskin Book of Knowledge
Meridia: Cleanse my temple!
Mehrunes Dagon: Assemble my razor, kill Silus and fight these Dremoras!
Hircine: Literally end this werewolf's whole career
Hermaeus Mora: Can you get my book...?
There's this weird dude who keeps dressing like me, he won't stop shouting, please escort him out of my library
Herma Mora is a bit more humble than most Daedric Princes 😂😂😂
@@yannkam2127 Hermaeus Mora: It's called hentai, and it is art.
@@genkureshima9834 He knows you catch more flies with honey as opposed to vinegar.
@@StarkeRealm Hermaeus Mora is Stanley after he got his lighthouse.
“I am Hermae- what? No, don’t look at the Orc behind the mass of tentacles!”
Plot twist: It was Urag Gro-Shub, the librarian of Arcaneum the whole time.
@@VERGILGASM Yes
I really liked the voice work for Hermaeus. The patterns of its speech. How it would sound sing songy but occasionally give a guttural deep tone depending on the word or its mood.
M’aiq saw this entity once.
M’aiq thought of some weird internet cartoon
You liar it was you in that cartoon you were the pussy
😂
probably does exist
@@coromo4978 I hope so
"I have found, that there is such a thing, as too much information."
My theory on who locked away the oghma infinium is the hero of kvatch. They did possess the book at the time of the oblivion crisis and went on to mantle Sheogorath so maybe they/he/whatever type of cheese sheogorath chooses to identify as locked it away to play a prank on Hermaeus Mora.
This is a really good theory!
Yeah that would make sense as sheogorath literally states in ESO he likes to steal his other more serious siblings toys to keep them on their toes still think he is the most powerful dedric prince like how do you trick an all knowing being lol
A simple lie
@@Pangolin115 If the Skaal can keep secrets from him, the mad god certainly can as well.
@@insaincaldo I think it's more of question of: does Hermaeus Mora want to delve into the madness that is Sheogorath?
according to "Aedra and Daedra" Daedra are incapable of creating anything, and can only change things, so I always assumed that most lesser daedra we meet used to be some sort of human, mer or animal
You're both right and wrong. In lore daedra are incapable of creating anything they are only capable of changing things that already exist. Lesser deadra however have existed for just as long as the princes, they haven't been created by them, they are just less powerful
@@accountsfromalonelystoryte5350 This. Daedric Princes can shape the animus of a Daedra and most sentient lesser Daedra can change their own form at will, but they can't be created or destroyed. Lesser Daedra are original spirits that refused to follow the Aedra in creating Mundus.
or used to be unknown races outside of Nirn, changed into Daedric races
@@driftingdruid true, they could be mortals infused with a daedric animus.
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I love Hermaeus Mora.
His voice is so calming.
I was so happy when I got to see him again in the Dragonborne DLC.
I also love that you get to visit his realm.
Dude I totally agree. Sometimes I get annoyed at how slow he talks but it isn't that bad because at least his voice is calming. If I had to choose between listening to a lecture in Potions by Severus Snape or Hermaeus Mora, I'd choose Herma-Mora in a heartbeat.
I also think the way Hermaeus speaks slowly is for ✨ dramatic effect ✨
Calming??
Hermaeus Mora reading me "good night moon" as he tucks me into bed with his tentacles
I wouldn’t Herma Mora’s voice on my Satnav though😀
Okay, I wouldn't share a bedroom with him. But besides that he seems like a decent fellow. And with all his knowledge he should know that his appearance isn't super comfortable.
"It's made of SKIN"
"What exactly is leather to Nate?"
lmao true
Probably it’s human skin specifically.
That's the point. It's made of human skin, not the leather
@@ottomaticallyawesome More like Mer skin
This is gonna sound a bit twisted but what if…it’s made from all types of races? Like Orcs, Elves, Nords, Imperials??? What if they were made from…his servants??
Probably not, hopefully not. I just eW-
Fun facts from Discerning the Trasmundane: if you do this quest before the Dragonborn DLC, when you first meet Hermaeus Mora in Apocrypha, he acknowledges you as his champion.
Also, in vanilla Skyrim and before Dragonborn was released, Hermaeus Mora appeared as a kind of conjuration spell instead of the tentacle and eye things. Pretty cool.
YOU YES YOU YOU ARE MY CHAMPION BUT THE OHGMA INFINIUM WAS ONLY THE BEGINNING
So he appeared as the magic thingy that represents conjuration spells? Much sinister because he would look a bit like how I imagine Sithis.
@@genkureshima9834 sithis is the void so basically he's nothing and everything
Only if you acknowledge him at the end of the quest. If you say "I'll never serve you demon..." He mocks you and says the lure of knowledge was too great for you to not succumb.
Fun fact if you kill Septimus right after he opens the door quest will fail but youll still read the book.
But does Hermaeus Mora know that if you switch to Geico you can save 15% or more on car insurance?
Good one
That’s forbidden knowledge
Mora is the Gecko and Sheogorath is the Camel.
No.
You know he can't resist a deal.
:sees Herma Mora: I’ve seen enough Akaviri literature to see where this is going
waht
*oh lord*
This is genius I tip my hat to you sir
*Tentacle hentai*
Pelinal umaril has returned and the worst of all the prophet is no longer alive to shout about it
15:20 It’s the same as with Namira’s shrine/altar. When one uses the detect life spell or aura whisper in that cave one can see there’s someone INSIDE the wall. A dark elf - i think - who acts as the npc necessary for Namira’s dialogue.
"Uhh...I have found..that there is such a thing.. as.. too much in..formation."
- Tentacle Prince
Juice seanzoz
I bet he has the forbidden book: The Lusty Argonian Maid vol. 4
He read all the Rule-34 fanfics of himself.
The first time I saw this guy I was walking out of that ice cave and I looked away from my laptop to drink some water and I looked back and there he was! I screamed a little bit.
Don't lie, we all know you don't scream just "a bit" when you see Hermie the first time.
When I saw him for the first time (which was during the Dragonborn DLC if I'm not mistaken) I was like:
"ok, the tentacles here and there on this place didn't scare me at all... but a guy with lots of eyes and tentacles... **clears throat and whispers** I'm fucked, aren't I...?"
Septimus Signus outpost ik bc the same thing happened to me😂😂
The 1st time I saw him I was like "WHAT THE FRICKIN HOLY HECK IS THAT FRICKIN UGLY THING!!!"
I actually got really excited (as in happy and interested, not horny) when I first saw him as I'm a huge Lovecraft fan.
I swear Mora changed appearance after Dragonborn came out.
Because he did?
He did, he was a glowing orb before hand, i remember cuz when i first got the game on xbox 360 i didn't have the dlcs.
mgunter yes he did! And voice actor! He was just a voice that was almost lazily dubbed to be deeper and monstery and he was almost the same as a ward spell
Yeah he did.
He did, I remember when I first played Skyrim it had no dlc's, and Mora appeared as a floating black mist? When I played again after getting a version that had the dlc's I did the oghma infinium quest before the Dragonborn dlc, so I was pretty fucking surprised to find a mass of tentacles and eyeballs.
I love how Nate actually cares about the details more than bethesda nowadays. He can talk about a rock and make it sound trully interesting, This channel channel is so good and I must say that Nate does amazing work doing these videos, keep it up man.
@ImWelkinHere "nowadays" that's the key word
@@FelipeLeonRandom well they haven't done anything to prove that they don't care.. so yea, saying nowadays is still pretty flawed logic
@@hankhell7586 well, milking skyrim (i know, it's a very good game), their recent games (fallout 76 had and still has a shit ton of flaws, they released way before they should've, but managed to fix that, then they fucked up again with collector edition, etc...) New wolfenstein hadn't exactly the best idea introducing co op, rpg elements... But hey, at least Doom is still good.
I'm not hater of bethesda, i love fallout and elder scrolls series, but you can see they changed a lot, either to worse, or better.
@@drinkyxcy6622 they just released an enhanced version of Skyrim on new consoles. Not really milking it.. despite what the Bethesda hater sheep say. Wolfenstein was still great despite its very minor faults and doom is amazing
Still, they haven't shown that they don't care about older scrolls lore whatsoever
The Oghma Infinium is bound with the skins of different mer races, which is also a reference to the quest where you have to collect the blood of falmer, orcs, bosmer, dunmer and altmer in order to get at the book.
oh man that's so gross & I didn't even notice that
Except it appeared in every previous elder scrolls game so it’s not a reference🗿
@leoalberts9514 then the quest would be the reference.
I can't remember if you've covered it already, but a tiny detail: in the hills next to the Twilight Sepulchre is a creepy fairy ring of White Cap mushrooms. In the centre is a Staff of Flames, an archery skill book called The Father of Niben, a single glass arrow, a bloody skull and a big blood splatter. No theories, just creeped out.
Plot twist: Hermaeus is really an orc, who is playing a daedra god
*Orc playing as a daedric god* : they’ll never know
*sees this*
Orc: Crappppppp
But orcs are subjects of Malacath. So in teh end Hermaeus mora is just a puppet of another daedric god. Plot twist!
@@puskajussi37 but isnt Malacath an orc playing as a daedric god too?
But i always beat orcs
Does this mean that the orc who keeps the Winterhold college library might be either secret champion of Hermaeus Mora or maybe even Hermaeus itself? He even says that you should think of his library as a his own dimension of Oblivion.
Something I just noticed about the seeker's face and Mirak's mask are that they look extremely similar.
Edit:When the hell did this comment get so popular?
N O S H I T S H E R L O C K
It's a weirdly sexual face mind you. Maybe am just a pervert but ... I'll stop there now!
@ImWelkinHere sexton God knoledge
Vigilants of Stendarr would like to meet you after what you wrote...
Christ you all think I'm a pervert! That's grim! All I want is a hug and maybe a quick 'shag'/'pump' lol sorry about the last part I'm being a sick Haha!
I’m so early, imperial walls and towers still make ralof feel safe
One thing some players may not know is, if you do it right, you can keep the Oghma Infinium. Normally, if you use the book, it disappears after you close your inventory. However, if you close the book, then drop it without closing your inventory, you can pick it back up and store it with your other books in your home.
I had dreams of Hermaeus Mora telling me he knows what I've done after completing the Dragonborn DLC.
I've actually dreamed about hermaeus mora and when i woke up i'm sick as fuck. That was really scary -.-
@@winston737 I had same experience after watching Boogie Math.
~39.0-40.0 C° On the morning and felt like double-digested shit
If TES6 allows us to import our previous saves (something Bethesda should've done with the other games as well) Hermaeus Mora should tell us details about the Dragonborn that only we know from our playthrough (but has been lost in time)
And yes, it would be great to have some import feature for the other games as well. Imagine if Skyrim Sheogorath makes references to Oblivion's Shivering Isles DLC or if Jiub would mention our Morrowind adventures.
@@winston737 must've teamed up with vaermina
Finaly a video where nate talks about himself and his secret's
Personal head cannon, HP Lovecraft was actually Hermaus Mora cosplaying a human.
This would mean that hermaus mora
Is a raging racist
@@Garfork I mean,he doesn't really care what Race the People are as long as he gets his Knowledge
@@nyarlathotep-thecrawlingch6335 hp lovecraft was a raging racist that's what I'm saying
@@Garfork I was just trying to complement the thing about Hermaeus Mora,H.P was not just Racist,he was Xenophobic and had Social Anxiety as well,it was mostly due to his Family and how he was Raised,Racism had no repercussions or Punishments before a little before the 21th century and even judging it with today's Punishments for it he wouldn't have much trouble,he at most said something like: "These Black People shouldn't be here" or "Damm all those people that weren't born in the UK"
@@nyarlathotep-thecrawlingch6335Aight thanks for enlightening me. Have a good day
Yet Hermaeus Mora still doesn't know as much about the Elder Scrolls than Nate does.
"Well that was a fucking lie."
Me thinks either Nate is Mora, or Mora taught Nate what he knew and doesn’t tell us, so Nate does.
@@hillmannic I say that latter for Mora knows much more than nate could possibly ever imagine. He knows past, present, future, what you did with that naked corpse and that cheese wedge, what Todd Howard's secret tactic was in the chess club and the Metacritic score for TESVI
@@metetural9140 also note... mora and his black books... are in a way literally the opposite of existence..
elderscrolls contain everything that is and ever was. ...
vs black books.. everything that isnt but could have been...
it was another video... on mora.. butt his potentional unique origin and how he came to be.. and it implied he wasnt born/created/came to being the way other deadra did...
its years old.. and i dont remember it.. butt it was very interesting.... if u havent seen.. i hope u come across it lol
I always liked the Seekers' appearance, brought back all the awesome memories of Morrowind since to me they reminded me a lot of the Ascended Sleepers
As a book collector, I was actually really dissapointed when I saw Apocrypha. I mean, it looks cool and stuff, but for a huge extradimensional library with all sorts of forbidden knowledge in its sortiment, I found the amount of actual books in there really underwhelming to say the least. Also, the few books you can find there aren't any special, most shelfs in the back room of a tavern hold a bigger range of documents than Apocrypha as a whole.
Would've been nice if the devs had added some special ones just for it, preferably written in an unknown sign language of some sort, so the lore nerds would've something to chew on and to give us a feeling why some individuals actually spent years in Apocrypha for their studies only to become insane in the process. If that's too time consuming, just copying some books of older TES games and adding them only to Apocrypha would've done the deal as well, that's basically about one hour of work for an intern. That's sadly a missed opportunity there.
You only unlocked small parts of apocrypha. Its like buying book from street and talking about how less books on earth.
@@ladyselin35 Man, Apocrypha is made out of the rarest books in Nirn's history. Even the walls and corridors are entirely made out of books, and then you're only able to pick up a fucking copy of The Argonian Maid somewhere from a table.
Also, the difference between your example and what I said is that in real life, you can actually leave that streat and go somewhere else to get those books you want. That option doesn't exist in the game, since what we got of Apocrypha is all that is accessable. The sole imagination of the possibility that other (inaccessable) parts of Apocrypha are stuffed with more knowledge doesn't help me at all in a game.
@@GodlordBazi Not just the rarest books in Nirn's history. Also books from outside Nirn's history. He has literally cut content there. And I don't mean content that got cut out during the creation of Skyrim the game, but stuff that was cut when the Aedra created Nirn.
Wonder if there's a mod for that somewhere?
Who else remembers before the instalation of the dragonborn dlc, when Hermaeus mora wasn't a lump of tentacles, but a blue mass of energy kind of like the Augur of Dunlain.
Martin Botes Bullshit. I’ve been player Skyrim for years, even had it before the Dragonborn DLC, and he was always the Wreched Abyss
@@eltonj888 Wretched Abyss is an apparition of Hermaeus Mora. It appears as a purple portal with a black center, similar to that of summoning creatures from Conjuration. Its appearance changes with the Dragonborn add-on installed to a being of grotesque eyes and tentacles.
I remember when he was a massive crab and sounded like this "I am Hwermaeus Mwora! Dwaedric Pwince of Knwoledge."
Might have been an update, earlier any then DLC though. I have only ever had the Wretched Abyss version of him, didn't get Dawnguard and Hearthfire till last year and still don't have Dragonborn.
I do surprisingly though when you get the dlc it turns into an actual wretched abyss
Hermaeus mora creeps me out. He's so slow aswell
Is it the pupil? It's probably the pupil
Same
I can't find him scary because he's voiced by Wes Johnson lol
Dooooooesssss iiit bootherrr yyyoouuuu?
He's too busy thinking about all the hentai of him.
Herma Mora is such a cool character. I would love to sit and chat with him for a century or two.
End up becoming a seeker!!
After a couple decades the kind of knowledge he would tell would slowly turn you into something that loses connection to reality.
All very lovecraftian indeed.
@@HappyBeezerStudios unless we were dragon born, since Mirrak never went loopy and he was there for ages
Meanwhile Hermaous is out here just casually asking you want to be friends and doesn’t care if you refuse, he even helps you out in Dragonborn. Mora may be the chillest Daedra ever.
The doors of oblivion is one of my utterly favorite books in game. So cool to hear someone talk about it. To be fair I don't watch a lot of skgrim vids so it probably has been brought up before but its just so cool and creepy
If Hermaeus Mora cant tell me when will the ES 6 be released, i wont call him lord of knowledge and fate
I dont even know
Mora: "That is the purview of beings who's darkness and power dwarf even mine, mortal."
I like the fact that he will always look towards the camera even when it's not the Dragonborn's viewpoint, suggesting that he knows that we're there, watching him as he speaks to the Dragonborn.
It's possible he might know that he's in a game...
Seekers also gives heavy D&D Mind Flayer vibes, as those are also mutated humans
Yeah, that’s what I first thought
Just a quick fun fact about the vanilla quest for herma mora, if you don’t have the Dragonborn dlc he will appear as a ball of white/blueish light in that quest. If you do have the dlc then the devs changed it to the tentacles and eyes you see in the video
*books scattered through different timelines*
Bethesda: It's not a bug. It's a feature!
hermaus mora : speaks
youtube subtitle : ITS MUSIC TO MY EARS
I actually really love HM, I wish there was way more lore and tasks for him. My mage/intellectual/lore characters would gladly serve lol.
Vertuben Flugen I was hoping so too! I found him to be extremely more interesting out of all of the Dadric Princes; his character just make it seem far more intimidating than Molag Bal and Mehrunes Dagon because of his knowledge. 😶 I feel like there is a lot more than Hermaeus Mora is letting on.
@@At0mic_W1ldz of course there is more than that herma-mora lets us know. he would have told us how to ascend into godhood if we simply asked for that.
I wish there were more weapons that look like miraaks sword
@@holczy_ So what you're saying is that Herma-Mora could (and almost definitely would) answer whatever question LDB asked, but LDB didn't have enough imagination?
Seems legit.
"Ineligible jargon"
Love ya, Nate
I've litteraly read all of Lovecrafts works (that I know of) and he does explain some of what's in the necronomicon. It serves as both an Encycolpedia of Great Old Ones/Outer Gods, and as an instruction manual on how to summon or communicate with them.
I found a cool weapon that very few people may have heard of. It's called the bow of the hunt, and is found in clearspring tarn, south of the atronach stone. It has an enchantment which allows it to do an extra 20points of damage to animals. It has a base damage of 11.
What kind of bow is it?
@@nathanf4361 hunting bow.
Most people probably have picked it up butnits pretty much useless so no one cares
@@kidcuh. That...that feels like it should be obvious, but maybe it's so obvious that it wraps all the way back around to being clever.
Hermaeus Mora is probably the Daedric prince that i consider the most fascinating. Such vast quantities of knowledge packed away in Apocrypha. And he himself being so mysterious. Aside from that void form with eyes and tentacles he takes on when conversing with a mortal, there really isn`t any who knows what he truly looks like.
it occurs to me that that Orc could be worked into Hermaeus Mora's lore as "the voice of Knowlage" that he has been altered by Hermaeus Mora to act as his voice when talking to mortals because his true voice would literally blow a mortals mind (like why god in the Christian faith speaks through the Metatron)
What’s the metatron? Jesus?
Bethesda also changed the dialogue in Oblivion in context to the quest at Sheogorath's Shrine, and The Shivering Isles expansion in a similar vein as they did with "Transmuting the Mundane" and Dragonborn DLC. Should you complete that DLC's main quest line before interacting with Sheogorath's Shrine...the Madgod's servant Haskiil will speak instead...opening up with (Spoiler) "Praying to yourself?! Well, I suppose that's fitting; you are the god of madness after all"...at the quest's conclusion, instead of the previous Sheogorath rewarding you with his staff, Wabbajack; Haskiil will merely congratulate you on finishing that pesky business that your predecessor failed to bother with before reminding you that you left *your* staff behind in your realm; and gives you "your" staff back.
Also, this means that in Skyrim, when you get into Sheogorath's Daedric Quest... you're speaking to your character from Oblivion: The Hero of Kvatch.
But what if you didn’t play oblivion?
@@hillmannic it's still the hero of kvatch
@@idnyftw Is it, though? The hero of Kvatch surely wasnt also the leader of every single guild.
How can we be sure it wasnt canon for a different person to have done each of these quest lines? The oblivion gate threat was urgent and it's hard to picture someone doing it on the side. I can see The Champion of Cyrodiil becoming Sheogorath like Tiber Septim becoming The Divine Talos(likely a fated incarnation, considering his blood was divine-aligned BEFORE ascension). The mantle of Hero-God probably existed well before Talos of Atmora when one considers that each god-like is an embodiment of some universal alignment.
@@idnyftw Actually, i take it back. If the Champion of Cyrodiil did do all these seemingly conflicing things... becoming a hero, villain, prodigy, petty taskmaster, etc. They may be suitable for the mantle of Mad God. I'll just take it as he/she did it BEFORE the emperor was assassinated or during some peaceful delays.
@@gabbonoo I sort of have this kind of funny headcanon about the Empire having a prison education program so good they'd occasionally have inmates who just break out and become hyper-competent mythic figures.
Mora was always my favorite because of his Lovecraftian attributes and his hilarious voice, also his lore is sick as hell and the black books were super fun to run through.
Nate you've done a great job providing fresh skyrim content over the last year. Just when it seemed like there was nothing left, you started to shine
And here I thought my library card and the internet granted me access to almost infinite wisdom, and these get their comeuppance by a creepy mass of talking tentacles in the end
For the last point, i already knew it without looking for it in purpose.
See, i love the "Aura whisper" shout, and "yell" it everythime to not get caught by surprise.
During molag Bal's mace quest, you can actually detect Bal's NPC in a room near the altar.
Thanks to console commands, i flew there, and discovered it.
Whats his NPC look like?
@@dorugoramon0518 T'was long ago, but what i can remember, a naked bold redguard.
You got me with the "you know who has more? Players with console commands!" - legit laughed out loud. Thank you! :D
that zoom in on Hermaeus Mora freaked my cat tf out 😂😂😂
"... That functions as a giant, twisted library, where rooms are separated by a giant sea of ink and tentacles." nate are you describing apocrypha or my house?
I still love being Sheogorath in Oblivion and doing the Sheogorath quest chain...they're always pretty good about continuity when it comes to expansions.
I finally started writing elder scrolls fanfic, and I’ve got a couple of daedric princes so far. One, who for right now I’m calling Y’Krys, is the prince of darkness, instinct, and the unknown. Part of his lore is that he has a hidden but very volatile rivalry with Mora as tentacle man tries to understand Y’Krys.
Always loved the Lovecraftian feel of the Dragonborn DLC
I played a great old one warlock that had a pact with Hermaeus Mora. she had proficiencies in all the "knowledge" skills and literally knew everything. knowing all the secrets of the omniverse drove her insane. she dug out her own eyes (later gaining blindsight as a eldritch evocation (DM house rule)). when ever she failed a knowledge based skill check (she knows everything but still needs to be able to relay it) she suffered a random temporary insanity. that was a fun character.
I’m playing Skyrim for the very first time and it came with the Dragonborn dlc. I did actually defeat mirak first, and was surprised to hear mora reference that! Didn’t know it was a rarer dialogue
I reckon Nate should do a 10 tiny details you may have missed in Oblivion or Morrowind?? It'd be sick, just start doing videos about them on other topics! THIS MUST HAPPEN
I've always thought the letter from a friend was for hermaus mora, trying to make you stronger before you faced mirrak
My favorite Daedric Prince. This being knows everything, even Dwemer race fate.
bacd 1990 he doesn’t know everything. Like the secrets of the Skaal for instance.
@@davidpilger4136 Technically, he finishes knowing It. Even the Skaal's prophecies say that Hermaeus Mora would eventually win and get their secret knowledge.
Another great vid Nate.
I wanted to throw out there that, while not an exact synonym, I've always considered Mora's black book "The Sallow Regent" to be a nod to the Lovecraft universe's "The King in Yellow".
The author HP Lovecraft suffered from an extreme form of waking nightmares known as night terrors and a lot of them made it into his work. A very interesting individual and an all-around great read. It's nice to see some homage paid to him in a videogame.
He was also great friends with Robert E. Howard, author of Conan the Barbarian (Cimmarian) stories. Technically speaking, Conan's adventures are all in the same universe as Lovecraft's elder god's.
@@TSotP Aye and another terrific author. My bio-dad has almost the whole collection of old Conan the Barbarian comics in plastic sleeves, the artwork on the covers are still crisp with zero fade.
Hermaues Mora is easily the thing about Skyrim lore I'm most interested in and particularly how he is based off the writings of hp lovecraft
"Thousands and thousands of years." This is like the thousandsth time I've heard this even though the timeline is very clear about the lengths of the eras.
ESO starts 2E 583. The second era ends 2E897, about 314 years later. The third era is 433 years long, bringing us to 747 years so far. Skyrim starts 201 years into the fourth era, making it a rough total of 948 years. And the other ES games happen before Skyrim, making none of them even a thousand years.
How bout Mythic era? No one knows how much it lasted.
That’s just recorded history. And feudal recorded history. Like during the Middle Ages they didn’t know the world existed for millions of years.
As right as that math probably is (I'll happily just assume youre right) people and Nate will continue to say thousands and thousands of years. Sorry, bro.
As far as I know (not trying to doubt your math) the dwemer disappeared 4,000 years before the events of Skyrim. I believe that was the beginning or ending of the first era. Maybe thats why people say thousands? Though the way they say it annoys me because 4,000 technically isn't that big of a time gap and doesn't warrant the "thousands upon thousands" mantra
It sounds more epic to say ''thousands and thousands''. Its epic nate!
Last time I was this early the dwemer were not extinct.
I mean they're not extinct so from what I can tell is that you are very late
I know they are somewhere out there but this was a joke.
@@and7thecandyman859 a joke aye?
*Good Job*
*thanks bro*
So...around the release of Morrowind?
0:11 that's good 'ol Uncle Sanguine a.k.a the guy who let you experience the movie "Hangover" in Skyrim 😎👌
I cant help but laugh every time I see Lovecrafts face. He wrote some of the best sci-fi to ever leave the pen, But he sure was a weird looking fella.
I agree. He reminds me of Max Schreck in Nosferatu from 1922.
With Hermaus Mora, THIS is exactly why the engine needs to be replaced.
The fact that they couldn't simply subclass NPC, make a new NPC type, and then disable certain collisions / damage events, is kind of absurd.
The "script redirect" to this hidden NPC is really kind of dumb and shows the engine is quite rigid, for a basic example. While easily "fixed" by this hack, it's a clear example that they can't merely make a subclass NPC in code, and just wire that up in the engine.
Hermaeus Mora is a combination between hentai and modern day surveillance.
Edit: Hermaeus Mora has the same voice actor as Sheogorath. Wes Jonson. I feel like that was intentional. Get the mad god to voice the god who causes madness.
I would say Dagon is the one to cause madness. Mora is more of the quiet one who only gets involved in affairs on Nirn when it bothers him
Edit: and as we all know Wes Johnson is Sheogorath's physical form in the real world
I love how ironic the title is: Hermaeus Secrets
edit: WOAH GUYS thanks so much for 201 likes that is a lot for me
Danke Nate, that's great man. I love how you interact so much
that is not irony.
I like your name.
@@JesusChristDenton_7 hilarious 😂
@@windhelmguard5295 technically, Herma is the Daedric Prince of secrets and knowledge, so "Hermaeus Secrets" is slightly barely ironic. I do understand how you see that and I don't disagree.
Yeah, year later.. But actually I've noticed something about seekers. Miraaks mask was Moras gift for his champion. And it looks surprisingly similar to seekers head.
Not many things in a game can scare me, but I had a mini heart attack when I saw Hermaeus Mora for the first time. I’m curious what humanoid form he’d take if he chose to. Probably dressed like a mage.
I wonder how powerful the dwemer were, considering they managed keep a godlike book locked in box a daedra couldn't open.
Well it wasn't the Dwemer who put the Oghma Infinium in the box. The Dwemer were long gone way before it was put in. The last carrier of the book before the Dragonborn (from what we know) was the Hero of Kvatch. And he became Sheogorath so my theory is that Sheogorath put the Oghma Infinium into the box to annoy Hermaeus Mora
@@metetural9140 The Dwemer did still build that box, so the question stands anyway.
@@insaincaldo They built a box that requires a key to open it? Amazing! I've never seen that before!
@@metetural9140 Make the key complicated enough.. well and make sure the box can't be cracked without it.
@@insaincaldo hmph. Because teleport is so hard. Pah!
do a "speculation" video, like "who sends the letters from a friend"
Hes done that topic before you just search far and wide
@@james737er it's likely that he was giving an example, not making a request, although I have no idea if that was actually the case.
@@Santisima_Trinidad well still, he does do a lot of speculation videos. The point was he does them.
Probably is Bethesda's way of telling that the dragon shouting thing attracted the attention of a random secret admirer on a particular province. Bugged as usual. But this is the boring explanation we all think at first, and I agree, speculate seems so more... sweet.
Master Wulfgar from High Hrothgar
Your videos always make my day!
Great video. My mind was blown when I discovered the three variations of when you walk into Apocrypha as well. I really wasn't expecting HM to greet me with "I told you so" after i told him to suck it on Skyrim.
The books going back in time does even have a little backing in the dragon born DLC I believe neloth mentions the black books may be from the future
9:07: "And it will also explain their name,Seekers,as in seeking kno... Well you get the idea" It gets me laughing everytime i repeat it
I read this as soon as it was said.
I know he’s horrible, but I find Hermeus Mora to be extremely interesting and I really like him. He’s super unique and I always look forward to seeing him in the game because I want to see what I can learn from his words, what can be inferred, etc. He’s simply fascinating to me ☺️
I also just like how he looks. Lol
man there’s so much juicy lore in all these random in-game books, I wish I didn’t only come across them clearing dungeons.... hard to imagine just chilling out next to a bunch of fresh corpses to sit and read
That's the only reason i keep spending my money in all the houses and all house furnitures we can purchase in that game : STORE ALL THE BOOKS😂
5:35 All I can hear is "Seekers are roughly human-sized floating *_beans_* ".
The very first time I came upon him in the icy cave place, I literally could not look at him. I had to distract myself with my followers following my every step and standing right in my face, my phobias were not prepared for that dude to show up out of nowhere when I was just gonna leave the cave to finish the quest.
Did you know that oghma infinium name cames from ogmus, celtic god of knowledge
16:24 I’m pretty sure the game requires every voice to be attached to an npc. Same thing goes with Meridia, but I’m pretty sure she’s an elf
I just got a letter from a friend who saw me in the atherium forge...
It's a shame Tony Jay wasn't alive when casting for Mora's VA was done. He already did a fantastic job of playing one omnipotent tentacle monster, he would have been incredible here. If anyone wants an idea, just look up videos of the Elder God from Soul Reaver.