A Very Big Skyrim Secret Has Just Been Revealed
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2020
- Skyrim is a place of many locations and perhaps none are quite as mysterious as Blackreach. A massive, ancient Dwemer city/cavern, Blackreach is easily The Elder Scrolls 5's largest subterranean region and is more of an underworld than simple dungeon. Complete with gorgeous glowing fungus and strange, still-power Dwemer machinery, Blackreach has baffled Skyrim players for years and in today's video we'll be exploring some of it's biggest mysteries and how they were recently revealed. So sit back and relax, as we dive into the secrets of Blackreach from The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim.
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Blackreach was one of the few truly magical moments I had playing Skyrim. Like of course there was the "oh wow!" moments, but Blackreach made me sit back in silence for a moment, just to take it all in. Blackreach by far my favorite area of Skyrim.
Soul Cairn is mine. Both the Soul Cairn & Blackreach are memorable for similar reasons though
@@bbbbbbb51 me is solitude swever
I have to agree with this one, it was actually my first time experiencing it the other day, it was pretty dope, I love all the falmer/snow elf lore. The land scape was phenomenal. I could see how if you've done it 100 times it could be annoying, but for the most part I just like how you get a nice change of scenery from woods and snow lol. I hate the soul cairn tho, probably because I got glitched there before🤣
@@uiuelite there's a sewer in Solitude?
@@bullethail3875 yup and if you have spécial edition you can visite it after the special quest the merchant kaijit guive to you
"Tonal manipulation is manipulation using tones and sound"
"Dragon shouts are more of tonal manipulation than magic"
Alright, I raise you one more. I'm not saying that large artificial sun is this tonal machine, but what if us activating/using our shouts, our tonal manipulation on that giant gong didn't just make the Dragon wake up from inside Blackreach, but quite literally summoned it?
Ooooo that's really smart!
That's what I was thinking! :D
I thought he was going to say that
Alright mister Todd Howard would like to speak with you
Good one! Now we need to shout more at it and see if it summons anything else!
I mean if its the case it should work, right? Unless of course it uses some battery and there left no charge in it.. Or our tu'um broke it.. Yeah, the best thing in these mysteries is that you can make up all the crap you want! :)
"M'aiq never has visited Blackreach. Only sometimes - from time to time."
Only sometimes you never visited Blackreach? Hm. Interesting... But why only sometimes? Why not all of the time?! Or not at any time? Or, never a time, per se? Not sure how to phrase that one...
But you should visit, M'aiq. The Falmer have very attentive hearing. They would love your stories!
Just stay away from their pets. They like to eat Khajiits, so I've heard...
Oh, and don't mind the wandering Giant. He's high off of the Crimson Nirnroot, so, I don't suggest going near him...
The Immortal Madness sounds like the ravings of a mad man
@@theimmortalmadness8010 You think M'aiq fears a giant!? M'aiq fears none because all fear M'aiq!
@@Subarashii_Nem M'aiq even fears himself, but at the same time, he's too brave to feel fear, so M'aiq gets tired often, go bother somebody else.
Ma'iq never actually says this tho
I got so lost in black reach I rage quit and had my mom get me out.
Y u no use Clairvoyance?
Really ? Are you 7??
Your mom is a god
It's not that big
@@michaelcrabtree9 ageed
It would be really cool if they somehow connected the “Time Wound” at the Throat of the World to all this Blackreach/time-travel stuff.
You mean all the wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff? Plus Dragons? Yeah...my motorcycle helmet will not contain the contents of my cranium if those two universes collide. I mean, I'm just barely holding it together as is.
Wasnt the time-wound caused by the elder scroll? But wasn't the same elder scroll also located in the blackreach? Hmmm
They kind of do. The Elder Scroll that leaves the time wound is hidden in Blackreach. Maybe the dwarves didn't vanish into thin air. Maybe they cast themselves into the future so that they could give their experiments mature and come to fruition.
@@Morrowynd From what I remember the dwarves didn't use the Scroll to disappear, instead they used the Heart of Lorkhan in an act of desperation when the elven alliance was about to defeat them. The same experiment is re-enacted in the college of winterhold as well when one of them asks you to find. the dagger Keening and uses it to hit a soul gem then he disappears. Because of this I doubt that the dwarves disappeared intentionally since I think they were trying to use the heart of Lorkhan to defeat their enemies instead. Been years since I read about this though so they might've changed it in ESO.
@@MrGameNightmare That's true, but it is possible that Elder Scroll could somehow be connected in some way. It's also unlikely too, but they had a way of reading them, so it's entirely possible they used one of those cubes too when they disappeared.
I love secrets. especially ones that are secret to everybody.
First time being early 😳
RJK
I fell for it once, not again
Ha...
@RJK i recognize that link.
it's dangerous to go alone, take this advice...
Didongo dislikes smoke.
August 2020: Skyrim in Skyrim is announced. As soon as you get to Riverwood, a courier arrives and gives you a package. The package contains a mysterious box that allows you to play Skyrim. Now you can die in a recursive reality in which you're playing Skyrim in another Skyrim, in another Skyrim, in another Skyrim, in another Skyrim...
What??
Only in another Skyrim Once. You didn't mention any other couriers.
@@ZahraAljaberi I believe the joke is that you can now play Skyrim within Skyrim within Skyrim within Skyrim on your Samsong Smart Fridge while using your smart toaster like a Wii-Mote for extra accurate archery aiming skills while also
toasting toast with a burned image of Todd Howards handsome grinning mug imprinted on said toast
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Dont quote me on it.though.
Skyception?
Todd "Xzibit" Howard: "Yo dawg, I herd you like Skyrim, so I put a Skyrim in your Skyrim so you can buy it again while you buy it again!"
It would be hilarious if the Dwarves are just repeatedly sending themselves back in time to keep “re-building” the time machine until they finally get it right. Kinda like an *intentional* time-loop.
So… a bootstrap paradox?
I mean, I would totally do that just to coach myself how to date the girls I had a crush on back in highschool, so yeah that seems like a worthwhile endeavor.
It's funny because I once entertained the thought of writing a story about time travelers that go back again and again to help early humans - in an attempt to develop interstellar travel before Earth becomes unable to sustain life.
Ever played Outer Wilds?
0:35 then you remember it's a Bethesda game so the population would be 30 at max.
Ey! did you heard that?
**Mods**
Actually, no. There would be thousands of them there, just only 30 of them would be visible to the naked eye and perceptible to the natural tonal hearing of our present-day mortals.
Actually if it were tes 1 or 2 it would be around 750,000 NPC's.
The dragon scroll, a scroll which sent Alduin forward in time, the scroll of the creatures of time was locked away in Blackreach in a machine capable of reading it. Then we find out that the dwemers built a time machine in Blackreach. I wonder if it is connected.
well they did learn to manipulate the scrolls in a way to decipher what they mean without incurring blindness or madness, so it seems quite possible they used that knowledge to then make a time machine or almost tesseract of sorts to travel space and time, and potentially that "sun" is the tesseract
Don’t forget that when arniel
Gane used keening on the warped soul gem he disappeared
Clearly the dwarves were after something big and greater than anything we've ever seen in TES
Allan Of El Salvador hopefully they’ll be some type off Easter egg with 6
Kyle Marsh oh shit....
i just imagine the dwarves being teleported to a modern day tamriel with cars and indoor plumbing
Imagine them appearing before EDM artists, now that's fair
Indoor plumbing already exists in the Elder Scrolls universe.
Maybe they were sent to the 9th era.
Lol, you fool! Only the Dwarves can make simple mechanical technology and then shove a magic spell up it's ass for no reason. Fantasy colleges do not have a major focusing on Civil Engineering. Or else it turns into another genre.
That seems plausible
Everyone always seems to forget that the Elder Scroll you track down during Skyrim's main quest, is found in Blackreach. A scroll that you use to look back *in time*.
The scroll's properties are probably what spurred the Dwemer to build their machine. They just mechanized themselves a contraption that had the same space-time bending properties of an Elder Scroll. Or, the scroll itself is required for the machine to work at all, since during ESO, that scroll should still be in Blackreach.
This seams like a legitimate reason, I would honestly like to see this explored more
Imagine living in such a beatiful place but you're blind.
I don’t even think they have eyes lol
I can't see the point of it
(pun intended)
@@polotakeo2080
If you have an HD texture and zoom in, they DO technically still have eyes. They're just, super fucking shriveled-up and tiny.
@@polotakeo2080 They do.
The dwarves already had the Dragon Elder Scroll, were clearly studying it, and were always tinkering with the laws of nature. Maybe they created this machine to try to discover the secrets of how a dragon break works, and even wanted to try to create their own artificial dragon break that they could control the effects of, instead of relying on an elder scroll or some other cosmic tool of nature or the gods.
That's a solid theory, my dude. I really hope Bethesda makes a Dwemer focused Elder Scrolls one day. Whether its a surviving sect of them somewhere, or a prequel game, I'm all for it. And it would be amazing if that game, or even another Elder Scrolls game focused on a villain initiating several Dragon Breaks, and you are hunting them through time, experiencing different parts of Tamriel at different times. A cool idea would be a procedurally generating map system, where you never know quite where in time you are, even if you recognize where in Tamriel you are. Like it can generate the same area but different depending in what time you're in.
I thought they left, don't you do a quest explaining that, the one with the dagger
I still like the theory of the dwarves discovered they were in a video game and the winked out of existence better but this my second favorite.
@@monkeysk8er33 That would be a really cool idea if Bethesda ever wanted to bring back the Elder Scrolls Adventures title! I'd play it :D
@@Dainith In ES3 Morrowind I think there are some notions that they disppeared without meaning to when Kagrenac tried to use Sunder and Keening on the heart of Lorkhan during the battle at Red Mountain. I don't know what quest with a dagger you're talking about, though.
Maybe the dwemer actually came from the future, on accident, hence explaining their technology, and without being able to return settled in Tamriel until they finally figured out time travel and went back to the future?
Nice theory, but it's been made clear that they disappeared because of
Kagrenac, who had a different aim. Though of course the only ones left to tell the tale are the Dunmers, and they could have changed stuff here and there.
It’s also stated that the Dwemer civilisation was up and running before the Aldmer spread into Tamriel. It could point to the Dwemer coming from the future and then working towards getting back.
@@simonlarge2052 That said, if the original dwemer generation that was sent back in time died out, then later generations of dwemer probably were fine living in an era where their tech outstripped every other power in the continent.
I have 2 headcanons for dwarves, one lines up with this idea, in that when the dwarves disappeared they went back to before aldmer, this is why they are so advanced, as they basically go back to the beginning of the kalpa. This may or may not be intentional, but it means eventually they should finish their work, though it will take who knows how many cycles of kagrenac
@@HovektheArtist Is that confirmed, Dwemers existing before Altmer? I thought they evolved with Falmer, Dunmer and Chimer. Bethesda really needs to work and straighten out lore i guess
A theory i have in regards to the dragon in Blackreach: Couldn't the bones of the dragon have been brought down into the city for study, and once Alduin started roaming around ressurecting dragons, this one was also brought back? I think it would be a pretty rational possibility :)
But aldiun needs to be near s dragon thomb and say some stuff to it
@@nolandderlugner1351 besides, from what we know what Delphine says...The Dragons that were resurrected so far came from graves in the Rift and Alduin was working forward to the west from there.
I wonder how Alduin got down there... Think he stuck his head through the dirt and rock like an ostrich? A plausible assumption, I would think.
@@RenegadeSamurai wel considering delphine blamed the high elves for the dragons coming back she was most likely using you for her own gain just like the blades always have and since she wants parthanax dead she can die in hell
@@theimmortalmadness8010 there are elevators dog...
Wait, so if Shouts are tonal, it makes sense that when you shout at the orb in blackreach (activated by Tonal Manipulation), the dragon appears, because maybe (and it makes that ding noise), you activated it with the voice, summoning the dragon from somewhere in Time and Space...
Especially considering the fact that, in terms of resonance, it would make sense that using a dragon shout would resonate with another dragon. It would be cool to learn the the dragon you summoned was the creator of unrelenting force.
@@T-Mobull though the dragon use fire breath
@@nootnoobnoot9484 just play Tje Elder Scrolls online the dragon use way more shouts
@@nootnoobnoot9484 they can use shouts too also some even use fuz roh dah
@@nootnoobnoot9484 their breath weapons, as far as what I've seen in the lore, are just the use of the dragon language. I can't remember if it was Paarthernax (the throat of the world) or Durneviir (the dragon trapped in the soul cairn, dawnguard) but they describe combats between dragons being more like conversations or debates.
Any dragon can use any shout, because its just speaking their native tongue.
So basically when we Shout at the artificial sun, we're inadvertently triggering something that drags this poor dragon out of their place in time and space, and then proceeding to kill them and eat their soul?
Lmao!
you can make anything sound garbage if you tone it like that
Sounds about right!
@@LgiovanniF You can't make anything written by Bethesda not sound like garbage
Yup and it was delicious
Thaddeus could BE a dwarf, would explain where and when he came from, and, where and when the dwarves went. It would also explain how he KNEW how to fix the orb.
Hes imperial. Maybe he traveled back to study them when they were still there
Zayne13 honestly the future could be under dwemer control
Kinmoon
Here it comes: The Dwemer were so advanced because they are in a time loop... they were visited by their future selves, be told about all the technology and how to create it and later Maybe Akatosh sent them back again so time paradoxes would not occur.
So Akatosh tryed to stop the time paradoxes...by creating a time paradoxes?
Yes, I am going pulg this execution cord, into it's self, to get more execution. Genuines!
@@fristnamelastname5549 better one than many
u just invoked the "jin particle"
im a bit rusty on remember it all lol been YEARS.. lmao
basically
what it means is the tech in question.. not the past dwemer or future dewemer... is independent of the dwemer at any time period... and the tech itself ALWAYS existed..... IN AN DOF IT SELF.. dwemer didnt create it..
it exists in and of itself eternally in the spacetime it inhabits...
example..
u hear a song from a person long dead.. u like the song butt think u could make improvements... so u go back in time to the person who created the song... give him advice on the song before he comes up with it.. then u go back to ur time.. play his song and its now as u tweak/helped it...
so now we have a problem.. he created the song in the past.. u heard it later .. u went back in time and shared the info about the song to the person who then went on to create what u told him.. so u also now created the song.. that is IMPOSSIBLE...
the only way .. the ONLY WAY for that to be physically possible is via JIN PARTICAL.. meaning the song ALWASY EXISTED... and neither you nor the person in the past created it.. u'd just thing u did.. despite that this "song" that always existed and just made itself known during the "time" is became "known" which leads u to think u created it...
just replace that "song" with "technology"
butt this is all pointless cause its game after all.. xb
Kinmoon is starting to have a more believable story
3 things are certain in life: death, taxes, and Todd Howard releasing Skyrim again
Blake Allen this is true
Life is not America not all countries pay taxes
And I am not even sure about the taxes nor death
@Vance Jacobs I'd watch that
@Vance Jacobs I mean the Witcher got one, but that was a book first
"a dead, dwarven archaeologist"
You mean that she was an archaeologist studying dwarves right? 'Cause she was actually a Nord when alive...
Liar
I SEE PAST YOUR DECEITFULNESS M'AIQ
@Gwen Bloodmoon r/wooosh
@Gwen Bloodmoon You obviously pay great attention to detail
@@felmiers liar
What if the big artificial sun thing is actually a tonal device so when you shout at it it gets triggered and pulls the dragon from another time (which would explain it appearing out of no where).
The size of Blackreach already is pretty impressive. Alftand, the main entrance (there are others) is all the way up near Winterhold and really close to the northern coast, but the southernmost points of Blackreach are right beneath Whiterun, or just north of it. There's also entrances all the way up near Dawnstar as well. Quite impressive if you ask me. My favorite part of the main quest is Blackreach onwards.
Also doesn’t the Reach in the west have a massive amount of valleys? So what if it just collapsed sometime in the last 1,000 years?
Before the collapse you had caverns underneath solitude and in the reach. Showcased in ESO, basically skyrim is above just one giant maze of large caverns until the collapse I believe caused by the greymoor vampires.
@@corkie873 what vid is that?
@@retarddog6505 No video just check out Elder scrolls online maps and you will see the skyrim greymoor expansion 2E and see the 2 big caverns.
@@corkie873 So I don't know a ton about the timeline but if a huge/significant area of blackreach was under winterhold could the collapse of winterhold be caused by cave-ins in that portion of blackreach?
The real secret is they found todd howards chess club in the college of winterhold
They finally found out who’s laughing now.
I think you may be missnaken for Todd Howard's creation club, easy mix up my thane
@@cazhalsey8877 no. Just no
@@cazhalsey8877 This made me spit out my watered-down beer.
imagine a random warrior who knows he'll soon die, eaten by a dragon and suddenly the dragon vanishes for no reason
Must've been the wind
Praise the divines
@@10FROZEN10 idk if that was a final destination reference, ima just assume it was and like your comment.
@@drillbitt4426 its a reference to sneaking away after attacking NPCs
@@seanlanders4180 I think it's a reference from when you are brutally murdered by NPC's in Skyrim then they say "must have been my imagination" while you are bleeding out on the floor.
This also corroborates with the College of Winterhold quest Arneil's Endeavor with the weapon Keening. We never know what the blade of the dagger is made of, if memory serves, so it may very well be Aetherium that Arneil strikes the soul gem with, replicating the tonal manipulation.
But then wouldn’t every human of his race disappear too? I never understood that quest because the implication is that he replicated what the Dwemer did but it only affected him…? Really strange to me.
@@Thunderlord_Tozn maybe because he was not as knowledgeable and had less powerful components the destruction was not as widespread
@@Thunderlord_Tozn humans wouldn't disappear bc the soul gem lacks the latent magical power or such an act. The dwemer were using Keening and Sunder on the Heart of Lorkaan, a literal heart of a 'dead' god.
@@Thunderlord_Tozn What he hit is just a soul gem and he only have Keening, now increase it scale all the way up past 11, hit the Heart of Lokhan (the heart of a literal god) with both Keening and Sunder while wearing Wraithguards. What he did here is just a down scaled version yet its enough for him to get transported.
Wait you can summon a dragon in blackreach by shouting at a glowing orb? I put almost 500 hours in Skyrim and this is news to me.
😶
@Soul of Cinder aight okay wow omg you need a damn medal or sumn sir omg gee how did you get there omg im sure youre the only one who has that amount of time damnnnnnnnn
@Soul of Cinder wow damn a 400 pounds guy living in his parents basement bragging about dedicating his whole life on a fucking game wow g i wanna be just like you
@@hafiyidzham9899 oh look a sad guy that just wants to hate on people to make himself feel better.
@@marvinamor1330 oh look a guy instigating
20:00 I mean the whole plot of Skyrim even revolves around that since Alduin only appears because he was flung forward in time by the legendary warriors so he'd be the problem of somebody else.
I imagine the US Army taking down a dragon in five seconds 😂
@@pichibomb475 but in reality they'd like to capture it alive for research which would be harder and resulting in more trouble
@@pichibomb475 if it were a dragon from some other universe, like Harry Potter, the US Army would definitely succeed. I don't think they'll even be able to hurt Alduin, least of all in his World-Eater form.
Lol people forget alduin can't even killed in mortal realm that's why dragonborn traveled to sovengarde to kill him
technically accidentally made it someone else's problem xD they wanted to get rid of him for good tbf
Damn I remember my first playthrough as the dragonborn, never having played an elder scrolls game before. Somehow in the first hour I ended up deep in the mountains not understanding how to manage my items so I was over encumbered as I tackled those ruins, somehow avoiding every trap and taking down the golem at the end with level 1 spells. Man I felt like a badass for a solid five minutes outside until a yeti or 3 eyed something jumped out and one shotted me.
the udefrykte?
you mean a snow troll?
That was always the sense I got from Skyrim, that they had a giant interweaving story planned that they didn’t have time to implement. The time warp opened by alduin’s banishment seemed like part of a time travel system that also includes the dragon mask gathering quest where you travel back in time. Really sucks that the coolest stories are all in the dlcs while the main game is anticlimactic and never really amounts to a unified story. This whole Dwarves using tonal manipulation to tap into dragon shout magic with time travel elements seems like it would have been about finding that the dwarves went back in time the way Alduin did and that would have been the main quest. Also explains why the elder scroll was in the dwarven ruins
This is actually so dope. Imagine if the dwemer show up in the ES6 and it turns out they were jump forward through space and time. Maybe slowing popping in and it's our job to save them for cool dwemer tech or hunt them for some other reward
Well obviously the dwarves were trying to save Fry's dog.
I see you in so many places I least expect des lol
How dare you.
Shouldn't we all be trying to do that? I legit cried a bit at that episode.
I hope they succeeded.
and just when i was done crying
thanks
Black Reach is my favorite world space in the game! Honestly, i wish someone on the Nexus would make a mod involving the reclamation of Black Reach, turning it into a settlement.
*Preston loved that*
Ask the guy making the forts and towers and dungeons reclaiming lol but it will break the lore if that happeneds
I saw this vid and looked if I could find any mod projects expanding Blackreach to areas in ESO, but nothing seems to be going on yet... I need that type of mod+ integration with Legacy of Dragonborn, that would be like a Indiana Jones movie or something like that...
TheLazyFinn looks like it’s off to Reddit and to ask about it 😂
10:30 Darkfall cave is also hinted at being in blackreach- and is in western skyrim. It has Aetheriam deposits, and even the same mushrooms.
Here's an idea. The Reach is a territory in Skyrim. Blackreach is underground. Underground is dark AKA black. Black Reach. Blackreach. Blackreach is underneath the Reach.
the appearance of Vale Deer would imply that the Vale, also added by Dawnguard, is connected to Blackreach in some way
@@alisteroidtestostereem7816 I think they meant that because of the colourings Vale deer and sabers have, all glowy and blue, its like a nod to Blackreach. Any Falmer cave you go in to it has something that glows usually the mushrooms lol
lol
Too bad you couldn't make armour from it. That would look so cool. Teal glowing stripes. Is there a mod
I like how this also explains why you can use a shout to slow time
This statement makes no sense. Dragons were created from Akatosh, the god of time. Makes sense that dragon shouts which are an ancient/primal magic can do this already
It actually increases how fast you think, which is why you can't move faster during it.
I don't think you're actually slowing time, it's just speeding up how fast you think/perceive
The more I learn about the Dwemer, the more I love them
They say markarth was built by the dwarves. I don’t believe a word of it though.
Too bad they are related to those damn leaf lovers
I spent the biggest part of a night (like literally 6 or 7 consecutive hours) just exploring every little bit of black reach on my mage character the first time I played through Skyrim. No guides, prior knowledge, or anything of the sort. Such great memories of a very nice time in my life. Thank you for making me think of it again Nate :)
Game is almost 10 years old and we are still learning new things, I hope TES 6 is even half as good
I bet it'll be like smash ultimate, the best it's going to be and never better
It’s supposed to be two times as long as Skyrim
I’m sure it will be. Despite the recent blunders with the Fallout franchise, I don’t think Bethesda will let us down. The way I see it, Elder Scrolls is their baby, and Fallout is just a step child. Sure, they don’t want to go out of their way to make Fallout bad, but I think they at least care far less about the franchise. ES, and Starfield, are Bethesda OPs, and they have no intention of letting them fall on their face.
Plus after 76 they know if they mess up elder scrolls 6 they're fucked
Air Plane deadass 💀
There actually is evidence of the dwarves having the ability to bend time, its mentioned somewhere that dwarven metal is impervious to time due to its tonal architecture.
So they probably werent whizzing around time and space like dr who but instead manipulating it for more local uses
This could be why you see him wearing dwarven metal armor too!
Wouldn't it be crazy if all this is to bring the Dwemer back in Elder Scrolls 6
YESS!! Or if you could play as a dwemer or snowelf
this is what I’m PRAYING for
This is what my nightmare is
Could it be possible that the dwemmer were so advanced because they sent themselves back in time with there knowledge before they were there and "started" the dwemmer all over again slowly geting more and more advanced every time they went back?
"Elevator like constructions called lifts"
Oh, so the dwemer are actually just regular British folks, mystery solved xd
I know right!? They're literally elevators! Does he not realize that lifts and elevators are the same thing? At first I though he would just say they weren't what real life elevators are like, but no. "Elevator like constructions called lifts"
Well, if he's an American it might be understandable, but I don't know where he's from, so...
That's why Brit are so pale! They live underground.
Teleki Zalán he’s definitely American you can tell from his manner of speech. To most of us a “lift” is when you give someone a ride in your car.
Wait so the dwemer are actually the English that were transported from the distant past.... well that explains why they speak so funny....:P
If I recall, didn't that guy who formerly worked at Bethesda claim they tossed around the idea the dwarves disappeared due to messing with time travel? That they were flung several eras into the future, where their technology was basically children's toys by comparison to the factions that existed then and were summarily wiped out? I'm probably misremembering certain aspects, but I guess Bethesda has decided to at least mingle with the idea.
...please, send me a link or something about this.
I don’t remember but it one of Fudget Muppet Videos when he discuss the dwarves possibility went to the future when highly advanced civilization and the dwarves where consider primitive and outdated and was essentially fighting for their lives.
IIRC Bethesda said that that was a good idea and stuff but told the players to take it with a grain of salt, as it came from a person who no longer worked at Bethesda.
Afterwards they thanked the guy for the work / passion.
@@thedemoman88 That was Michael Kirkbride and he said that either in his AMA on reddit www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/1ptr0o/i_am_michael_kirkbride_ask_me_anything/ or in C0DA, which is considered a fanfic but very informed one.
Stingray the thing to understand with the lore in the elder scrolls is Bethesda takes a hands off approach to what is and isn't canon if there isn't something proving or disproving it's canon it's free real-estate under the pretences of the unreliable narrator
Just for the record, there is a way to get to the other side of the impassable door in arkanthamz with out cheating. I actually discovered it by accident when I fell into the river that runs through arkanthamz right near that set of Dwarven rubble with the statue head at the one part in the middle of the ruin. The rubble has a secret entrance next to it that leads to that “impassable” gate. Just thought I’d put that out there.
Maybe the Blackreach dragon wasn't down there waiting for you to "ring the bell," maybe shouting at that sphere, for a brief moment, reactivated whatever was taking all those creatures from across time and space and bringing them to Blackreach.
My headcanon is that this dragon was Miraak's greatest ally, and by summoning him to Blackreach, you ripped him away from a great battle between Miraak and Alduin.
You, the dragonborn, are the reason Miraak lost all those centuries ago.
That is a very funny thought.
Blackreach is larger than previously thought and the dwarves used teleportation. That took 20 minutes to explain.
But dude, don't you see how lore it is
I don't mind because i dont play online mmo's so new lore and speculations from eso is helpful...like the dwarfs disappearance and time travel and stuff like that...the title of the video is kind of clickbate but hey, u gotta do what u gotta do.
Thank you! This video takes too long to get to the point, by the end of the video I wouldn't even know what was the secret.
It's all discussion of lore, this shouldn't be a surprise if you actually take part in ANY lore discussion/speculation communities. They, and I, can go on for hours talking about these kinds of things. Lore isn't something as simple as getting to the point, because it would end of being convoluted.
@@Sighmir Do you like podcasts?
M'aiq knows this. He also knows there is a Blacker Reach where the greatest mystery can be answered - who took all of M'aiq's calipers.
This is the best comment on here 😂
And who has coin?
You lie
Does M’aiq know that there’s actually the Blackest Reach?
@@sexysaurusrex548 "M'aiq knows much, and tells some. M'aiq knows many things others do not."
If you notice the "dwarven device is the artificial sun in skyrim's blackreach
Yeah, was waiting for that to be mentioned, and a shout, a tonal manipulation created by dragons, summons a dragon? Doesn't seem like a coincidence
I never thought Vulthuryol was dwelling in Blackreach when we got there, I always thought he only arrived after the Dragonborn summoned him by using Unrelenting Force on the giant glowing orb. If Shouts are a type of tonal manipulation, maybe it's the same thing as Thaddeus Cosma said was happening - tonal manipulation used on the Dwemer machinery was causing creatures from different time periods to be brought to Blackreach. So the giant glowing orb could be a time portal and using Unrelenting Force on it brought Vulthuryol from a different time period. It's too bad we can't use Bend Will on Vulthuryol to speak to him and get some info.
Wait...that guy who no longer works for Bethesda...didn't he say that the Dwarves were sent forward in time to the 9th era?
Yes, Nate even mentioned it in one of his previous videos
Micheal Kirkbride is Akatosh, and C0DA and KINMUNE are canon.
Only things he said after leaving Bethesda are canon
Yea, I am wondering why Nate didn't mentioned that in this video. Like, he mentioned it over and over again in his previous videos.
Yes, this expansion putting his writing about it, into plausibly canon.
What if the Dwemer were teleported back in time to the Merithic Era and started their civilization with knowledge from the future, and that is why they are so advanced?
Predestination Paradox?
Or, they went far into the future.
In some future TES, we might have to deal with the 'invasion of the dwemer'.
Samuel Isaac that’s a great idea for a story in like ES 7 or something
@@baronofbahlingen9662 Maybe even make the dwemer the 11th playable(excluding mods) hell include a new skill line involving engineering or sound based powers.
@@baronofbahlingen9662 Yes, ES 7, coming out early spring 3045
What if Dwemer trapped Vulthuryol insude Blackreach for him to melt Aetherium? Dragons use shouts to breathe fire, and that could've caused tonal manipulation to weaken Aetherium's fire resistance?
The mystery of all dwemer beings disappearing at once. I like to think someone tried to use tonal manipulation to displace someone in space time, but because of resonance, not only one or a few were targeted by such an "experiment", but all the same beings who would resonate with this frequency vanished. It was during a battle right? So maybe someone tried to make an experimental tactical move with this tech. Some Dwemer somewhere else in time and space has to explain to his friends what happened, maybe trying to revert it, while building a civilisation elsewhere. I love the mystery though.
I like to think they were about to combine all the souls of the dwarves into one super spirit to merge with the Numidium and become a deity. However to do this they had to achieve CHIM and due to the logical nature of dwarves, once this happened they straight zero summed and vanished.
I-- But... But we know what caused it... *This* is why we get sad when we hear you didn't play Morrowind, zoomer! YOu can talk to the last surviving dwarf in Morrowind. You hold the tools that caused the dwamer to vanish in Morrowind, and use them to KILL A GOD!
it actually involves a gauntlet, a sword, a gods heart and a gigantic mech/ dwemer robot... but oookaaayyy
I feel like to truly show thadius' time travel capabilities, he should've introduced himself with
"Ah! It's you again! Oh, forgive me. You haven't met me yet, have you?"
Nah, he just walks up, removes his [insert decorative clothing], says "There, you see?" and walks off.
Todd Howard jumping a gift shark in the mouth? Yeah... Can see that.
The first thing he should've said is "RUN!"
Pathfinder Kingmaker did something like that with a character. It was a nice take on it
Very River Song of you
Nate, your videos are informative, entertaining and engaging. Thanks for your hustle, fam!
The connection between tonal magic and the dragons is interesting. I wonder if there was ever an idea during development for the underground sun to react to a time based shout?
Crimson Nirnroot could be tied to the vampires, that would be pretty cool.
They are
They drop from vampire harrowstorms, which are like vampire portal things.
@@wwefuk7719 what? They're just in the ground in blackreach the hell are you on
I remember when I found the dragon legit, I was like "Should I shout at this giant orb? Does it do something?" and boom. Finding a secret without looking it up is one of the best feelings in a game
Same.
I just found out the small easter egg in the Museum at Dawnstar. I was trashing the place and came across a lil something something and honestly thought it was a glitch until I looked it up
I like finding places that you would never expect to find also, it's sort of like finding an easter egg. Like when you find kagrenzel for the first time.
When i saw that artificial sun idk what's got into me and just shouted on it unconsciously xD xD xD
lmao that and exploits i randomly discovered the infinite raising stats glitch with soul trap while playing morrowind showing my friends in school made me feel like some kind of sage or wiseman lol
"Bethesda found another way to sell skyrim to us"
I died
Maybe the dragon did “die” and it’s skeleton got brought down for study in parts, then Alduin “woke him up” and he reassembled.
Kind of like the old prank of taking someone’s car apart and building it on the roof...but reverse and with dragons.
Maybe dragon got trapped to melt their metal? And by using shouts, he might've caused tonal manipulation to weaken Aetherium?
Weird theory: crimson nirnroot could’ve been created (the same way farmers breed crops to make new versions of them) from regular nirnroot for the purpose of tonal manipulation
I believe crossbreeding is the term you're looking for
I feel like they use their tonal manipulation to improve it. As it makes weird sounds. Or maybe the atherium rocks that are everywhere caused it to grow like that
@@braydenleclerc5529 The atherium is what I always thought caused the mutation. Tonal manipulation is definitely a good theory, I hadn't thought of it before.
Definitely a possible theory, but since crimson nirnroot is so scattered around the map I don't know if that's right. If they tried to or did breed the species I feel like there would be a highly concentrated area of them, or more near certain areas, after so long there wouldn't still be a neatly arranged crop of them but still higher concentrations closer to where they were being grown or signs that they had been being farmed at one point.
Makes sense, maybe the Dwemer played with it, but there is the quest to find the biologist and his work down there and ultimately collect them.
Maybe that guy came to that conclusion, seeing as the normal ones sing and glow.
I'll have to go back and read his journal and cross reference with some dwemer books, but an interesting theory
Title: *A Very Big Skyrim Secret Has Just Been Revealed*
Bethesda: $60 DLC
or $20 and huge by CD projekt red
Or an expansion for a completely different game that wasn't even made for Bethesda.
Horse Armor is the real secret.
the real secret is not letting your dad know you used his CC to buy all this DLC
@@blank___blackasd CDPR is getting that full $80 from me when CP2077 comes out
TheEpicNate still love your videos to this day and how you still find content to talk about thought Skyrim is many years old! I love the game myself and cannot wait to see what happens with The Elder Scrolls 6!
"using machines..."
MY MACHINES!
whose machines?
MY MACHINES!
It's amazing how you find all this stuff down there when every time I end up in Blackreach all I can think of is "how the heck do I get out of here."
while most players just want to figure out how to gtfo, nate wants to get in and break down even millimeter of potential
I think all players discover things in Blackreach while trying to get out there.
Not I. I've explored blackreach so thoroughly that I remember where every single crimson nirnroot is located, all 20 of them, and I even found the Dragon on my own by accident. In fact there are several books and notes about that suggest blackreach does go far deeper underground, and that it had been flooded. There's even a pumphouse in game where you can turn wheels to lower the water level, needed for finding an item in an certain misc quest, so Nate isn't wrong. I hope he's right about being able to explore more of it in the new game/ dlc/ whatever it is.... If even rebut the game for a third time if that gets added, as, blackreach and hidden vale are my absolute favorite locations ingame. I could explore them for hours.
@@darkerdaemon7794 I feel you. But you said TWENTY my dude, you need to get THIRTY of those feckin things for that quest. I am jealous of your memory though, I only have vague recollections of their locations and wind up wandering all over the place to find them again each time I do that quest. I am very much guilty of finding as many as I can easily, and then just going back after they've regrown. There are at least thirty plants though, I have pushed through and found them all in one go before.
I do like exploring Blackreach, but I have had moments where I struggle to find an elevator out. Not the easiest place to navigate when you just want to get where you're going.
If shouts aren’t magic, then why can they be blocked by wards? This is the most annoying thing in skyrim. Like you’re the dragonborn and have this immense amount of power but a little magic shield cast by some random novice can block it.
I think they ARE some kind of magic, just quite different from the common one. Otherwise one couldn't explain why three words spelled by Dovahkiin suddenly turn into massive fire blast xD
Nonetheless, unlike any weapons, thu'um is still not physical. Apparently, this is the reason why it can be stopped with a ward. Weird is that it can be stopped even by a novice, though :D
Shouts are words directly translated from the elder scrolls, dragons speak the words of the scrolls, thus gaining world bending powers, in truth a shout is like an author writing a book, you are literally writing, or in this case shouting something into existence. Akatatosh was the great god of time, he made the scrolls, thus the dragons gain the natural talent to understand their words without translation, or even know they are speaking the words of the scrolls. *theory mode deactivated*
It's a game play feature, shouts are implemented as spells, with the use of the console i believe you can cast some of them from your hand. In the lore a shout would most definitely break a ward it's just a feature of the game, same goes for different weapons, elven swords aren't intrinsically better than orcish swords it's just something added to the game for game play purposes.
Shouts are being blocked by some magic shield is because of gameplay balancing. If it were lore wise, shouts wouldn't be blocked as they are powerful enough to destroy chunk of land meaning it's different from the known magic.
Halfway threw vid & luv'n it. Thanks!
You can get into Blackreach through some random Falmer infested cave near/behind a waterfall as well, IIRC .
Learning secrets and mysteries are. One of the things that makes me love the Elder Scrolls universe so much. The creepy secrets and mysteries mysteries are always something that can keep me guessing even after I’ve completed everything in the game. Now we just got a wait 28 more years for Elder Scrolls six to come out.
I'm so curious when the elder scrolls 6 is coming out it feels like never honestly
2021 or 2022 if it didn't come that time 2100
OK Yeah, most likely, Todd Howard said that the technology that they want for their vision for TES6 isn’t out yet. Bummer
@@OK-ym1jb
No. Bethesda recently confirmed they're years away from sharing any news about it. So, that likely means 2025 at the earliest.
Erioch Stomp anything to back that claim up? Or you just going off a hunch? Cuz u seem pretty positive of urself maybe I’m missing some news but yes last I heard they needed graphics tech to get caught up to what they’d desire their engine/graphics to run like. Unless it’s something you know personally from an inside source I’d say it’s prob best to not lead others awry cuz that could legit get a grip of fans really bummed when it is that special date and nothing happens. Jus sayin
“total manipulation is not really magic...it’s Todd selling us Skyrim again”
tonal not total...
@@SevCaswell I think he spelt it like that intentionally and it was part of the joke
I really love your videos. I love that you first get to experience Blackreach in ESO near the Raldbthar Deep Market in the prologue.
one of very few tes channles i still follow, damn you still manage to surprise me after all this hours in all tes games, keep them coming my mate!
“Fallen goblin slaves.” Aren’t the Falmer just de-evolved light elves?
yeah, deevolved snow elves conditioned to evolve blindness and become feral from basically being the dwarves' slaves
@@zekrom2359 Yup, I wonder if Nate even has played that part of Skyrim since he uses those terms.
Falmer is the original name of the Snow elves, similar to Altmer being called high elves, or the Dwemer being the Dwarves, etc. Snow elves is a name given to the Falmer by the Nords, describing their skin to be: "As Pale as the Snow itself." Snow Elves call themselves Falmer, but now since they are wretched beast of the underground, the Name Falmer only bring up thoughts of villany and wickedness now.
just a correction " de-evolved" is not a thing. they evolved, just that, just because they're not "civilized" doesn't mean they are in a lower spot in the hierarchy of biological evolution, mostly because there is no "hierarchy of biological evolution"
@@christopheredwards9904 not true, they were the known as the snow elsves, ie "Fall of the Snow Prince". After their de-evolution they were then called falmer, a derogatory term to the snow elves as told to us by the snow elf we speak to during the Dawnguard questline. We call them "Falmer", he refers to his people now as " The Betrayed"
1:40 bro... honestly I think the developers just threw some books in there without thinking too much about it
*9 YEARS LATER* Nate:
Maybe Nate was a time traveler himself that has just waited for the right moment to tell us all this?
The books seems to be random aswell, since ive found that Argonian Maid book in there once LOL
I feel like blackreach was left massively unfinished. It’s legit just a big area with nothing of interest or value in it apart from needing to explore it for the main quest.
It has a few random buildings throughout, but it’s mainly just empty and those buildings when entered are tiny and lack anything of value.
Probably meant to be a larger part of the game, but ran out of time to make it into what they originally wanted.
I think one of the Deadric princess found a way to teleport them to the "End of Time". Thus getting an inconvenience out of the way.
This sounds like a set up to bring the Dwemer back Alduin style, not sure how I feel about that.
I really hope they do NOT bring the Dwemer back-ever. They work much better as an enigma. Bringing them back would absolutely ruin the mystery. Also, the Dwemer returning would be a Very Bad Thing for every other race on Nirn.
@@Jimmyinvictus it would be pretty fun. Like a "every race unites vs the dwemers"
@@kalodawg8297 the second great war but so, so much worse, pretty much
Solitaire I personally hope they never bring back the dwemer in force maybe one or two similar to the one in morrowind they could have been in oblivion
Its probably a bad Idea but I'm so exited that they might put the dwemer in the game or at least and old dwemer companion
01:45. You’ve never seen a falmer servant ? They are all mer. Khajit, Orc, Nord, Breton, Imperial. Guessing they brought the books with them when they were forced into servitude
So the aetherium deposits found all over Blackreach. You can’t mine it without dwemer tools, which I’m pretty sure aren’t to be found in the game. It’s a type of super conducting quartz?
It vibrates at a rate that can be quantified & manipulated. So. Tonal Architecture is sonar /sonic / amplification on steroids ?
Knowing the Dwemer, that dragon was probably the battery for that artificial sun.
I'm so early that red mountain hasn't erupted yet
What is that pfp 😂
@@jj-vd6ls
It's Zone-Tan from a comic "Orc Safari"
I'm so late that Kvatch is a smoking ruin
Im so Early an Imperial battle mage Betrayed the Emperor and sent some poor smuck to prison.
I'm so late that the Dwemer are setting siege to Tamriel again.
Wait, if the ball hanging above the city in Blackreach is what does the tonal manipulation, and the dragon shows up when we shout(which is tonal manipulation) at it, then are we the one activating the machine and taking the dragon from wherever it was before?
Exactly, he didn't say it, but it is quite self explanatory
Yup so they weren't their prior to the shout that activates it. So that's a pretty cool touch to it's original use.
I don't really use shouts, so I never used any shout inside the cave on any of my saves. I never met the dragon and didn't know about it until now!
@@Mabaz holy cow man that's actually insane lol the games been out for so long. I'm amazed some people haven't experienced that run in. My first time fighting him was by accident my controller fell and the shout button was hit activating the event. It was an amazing experience you should go try it out when you can.
Nice Choice Instructions unclear, dropped my controller on the ground and it broke. Now I have no controller.
this was especially crazy because i started watching your videos expecting clickbait (because of your titles) but you always end up delivering and now I'm subscribed 🙌
I really want to see more about the Dwemer in Elder Scrolls 6. Maybe an expansion explaining what happened or maybe their return
Its 2020 and Skyrim secrets are still being revealed ... I like this.
Well, Michael Kirkbride (former Bethesda writer) said that Dwemer was sent to the 9th era. But we need to remember that Kirkbride doesnt work at bethesda anymore.
maybe the reason why he doesnt work there anymoer is because bethesda didnt want him to spoil a major upcoming plot? if i know bethesda right they had this planned from the beginning of creating blackreach.
9th era? I thought that C0DA takes place in the 5th era?
Michael Kirkbride also wrote a story about the world ending in the 5th era. Nothing he said has been canon since Oblivion came out.
MrJalmari kirkbride came up with many theory's just like the zero summed and yea he no longer works at Bethesda
Time and detail put into the game to just have fun and explore is fantastic
"Even as aetherium was the foundation of their wealth, so also it was their destruction: they delved too greedily and too deep, and disturbed that from which they fled, Vulthuryol."
Am i the only one just a teeny tiny bit annoyed that he refered to the Snow Elves as goblins?
No
I'm with you. Lol
Same here
First I thought he said somethig else, but the cc clearly shows goblins. Now I can't watch this video anymore cause this dude has an anoying voice and doesn't know shit about the lore.
@@kwando472 he usually gets it right, and usually calls the falmer "goblin esque" and stuff like that, nobody's perfect
The Falmer aren’t goblins though. They’re the descendants on the Snow Elves. Goblins are their own race.
They aren’t descendants of the snow elves they are the snow elves but because of what the dwemer did to them they turned into the falmer
@@chrismarple Due to the conditions they were under, the snow elves evoled inti Falmer. So, unless the current falmer are all the original snow elvez, yes they are desendants of the snow elves.
Reveion thus making them descendants of the Snow Elf
The Falmer are Snow Elves that were forced to go into hiding against their will. They've been underground long enough to lose their sight and now they're just hostile creatures.
@@eugenethomas1636 No, they were betrayed by the Dwemer.
the way they mention black reach and the other dwemer cities being connected in ages past reminds me of the deep roads of dragon age
My thought: When will some one port the new Blackreach sections into Skyrim?
Well I'll be damned, ESO is actually trying to keep in tune with Elderscrolls lore AND explain some things from previous games. I'm proud of them
Meridia Temple explained.
It's always been like that lol
@@julienmorozof8082
No it hasnt.
(To clarify, ESO wasn't canon when it first came out and was basically Its own standalone non canon game.
So they never followed established lore, rather created their own.
Over time they tried crossing ESO into the rest of their ES universe by adding more lore which ended up screwing up a lot of stuff that was already established.
Basically everything is now mixed into different parallel timelines that are formed from random cataclysmic events forming the dragon breaks.)
It's a clever way of fucking up the lore while also saying it's all canon, even if it's contradicting itself.
Pretty cool tho.
Sorry for asking dumb questions but have they added hand magic? I want to play mage in ESO but the fact that you NEED a staff hurts alot :( Also needs more fun combat )
Zurelius I have ESO and stopped playing because of the combat. I like playing spellsword but it’s just not the same. And the sneak in the game is so weird for me, when I want to play a rogue it’s all just weird and annoying. And I got stuck in a quest for a little bit since enemies kept respawning when I had to talk to a character. Makes me mad because I love the style and the stories being told. Wish there was a way to just not fight and just walk around lol
Point of accuracy: Skyrim happens in 4E 200. The red year is 4E 5 so red mountain eruption was 195 years prior to Skyrim not 20
Moreover, Red Mountain erupted after Vivec City was struck by Baar Dau so being there at this time would be quite impossible (or fatal at least).
@@Biele98 i'm reminded of the first-hand accounts of the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 AD. One can be at just the right distance to see it all go down and survive to tell the tale.
Jesus we got some Skyrim historians here
Does anyone in this comment have a job? Maybe, you could get Tom Hanks up in here and do a Dan Brown cypher about a fictional yet extremely accurate history of Skyrim conspiracy. Or the job thing.
Jason Antonation some people enjoy this stuff. Maybe we should ask if you have a job, since you seem to have time to critique comments on a Skyrim video
Blackreach is both one of the coolest places and one of the most annoying to traverse.
If you’re just going there because of the quest you’re gonna hate your life however, if you pop in by accident and start exploring without being forced that shit is magical.
Now I can't help but imagine the dragon and giant chilling together for hundreds of years, just playing poker or something.
Blackreach is hands down my favorite place in skyrim to go. I've been playing since 2011 and it still wows me. Gorgeous