Super Meteor 650 Engine Oil - What You Need To Know!
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2024
- A how to guide on checking your Super Meteor 650 oil level.
Also what grade oil to use.
My Meteor was half a litre under what it should have been on the last service. How about you?
Please let me know.
Urgent Urgent Urgent! I'm only recommending this for Meteor 650 owners only. Not Interceptor or Continental. Please follow your own bike's owner's manuals.
Where I got my information from:
Royal Enfield Tutorial Video:
• Engine Oil Level Check...
Or you can look at page 53 of the owners manual. You can download the manual from here in English:
www.royalenfield.com/in/en/su...
The gear ratio is different on the Meteor 650, producing a higher revving engine. I think this is why there is a difference.
I made this video to save engines, not ruin them. Please only do this on Meteor 650s only please 🙏 - Авто та транспорт
![Royal Enfield Super Meteor 650 oil change at 4000km for Shell Advance 4T Ultra 15W50 [2024]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qnrVQlkDy48/mqdefault.jpg)
How lucky am I that I’ve got the same bike as you?! Thanks for all the tips, I wouldn’t have been aware of most of these things 👍
You are more than welcome……..as long as you have subscribed ……😂🙏
Very interesting, I had thought it was like the other Enfields where is has to be between those two lines, very odd! Thanks for the video,
Yes it’s all a bit odd. I will do some more research and digging 🙏
As an auto mechanic myself, I understand why it's important to follow manufacturer's recommended maintenance intervals and which brand to use-hence, the 10w50 Royal Enfield oil when changing the oil-to prolong engine life and smoother wear on the motor!. The jackrabbit starts & stops will only shorten the life of the motor. Thanks for the procedural updates on how to do it properly on a Super meteor 650!🏍️👍🎉🤓⭐⭐⭐ Doug from the 🇺🇸🦅USA.
Thanks Doug. I hope you find some corners out there. On thing the Super Meteor 650 excels at 🙏
Teacher T, first, let me say a genuine thank you for your YT content and presentation style; so far as an oil level sight glass is concerned, the same principle applies to an oil dipstick - the correct level [for a stick] is taken after the engine has been warmed up, and then shut down for a minimum amount of time. Anyway, the measure is valid only when the stick is held down onto the crankcase mating surface. It should NEVER be screwed in and read as 'full.' Many mechanics use the latter method, perhaps because they've poured less oil into the sump to begin with; whatever, I almost always have to add more oil content to my bikes. In essence, it pays to do it yourself, all the best, from a Cambodian neighbor
Thank you for your kind words. I’m still very new at UA-cam, but learning every day. I think we are all a little shocked that RE are recommending the max level. But that’s what it states in the owners manual. Thanks for watching. 🙏
That’s what everyone needs to be “safe” another spy app on their phone. It will tell them everything about you and nothing about oil levels. People, get rid of anti privacy apps. Your motorcycle will live longer. 😂😂😜😜
Thanks mate, great video, my level was just a little low, just under the Max line, will top it up today!
Thanks for update. I’ve never filled to max level before on any vehicle, car or motorbike. It’s all a bit strange, but it is manufacture’s recommendation on the Super Meteor 650.
Since 1970 whenever my motorcycle was serviced in a bike shop, the first thing i always checked was my oil level. Something my uncle and more experienced bikers told me. And the same principles applied with my cars. You'd be surprised how many times my oil levels were shy of the target!
Yes very shy. I was 0.5 litres under. But I didn’t realise I was supposed to be a maximum level until recently. I’ve always been happy half way Joe. So just spreading the word. I just complete a 250km cruise today with friends. The bike so much quieter and responsive. 🙏
Thanks for your always really interesting and helpful videos! 👌
You are more than welcome. And thank you so much 🙏
Always a good idea. Service techs tend not to have the same vested interest in our machines. Fortunately Royal Enfield bikes are very stout and mechanically accessible for those of us who are "hands on". Nice work. Cheers
Thanks. Just confirmed in the service manual that the oil level should be at max level. Which I find very unusual. Hence the warning and the video 🙏
A cut away view of the engine shows the oil pickup at the bottom of the sump, so the reason for different oil levels is most likely not pump starvation, or top end oiling. The original 2018 Interceptor Owners manual confirms the common understanding that oil level should be between the Min-Max marks, with the bike level and warm. The April 2023 version of that same manual states that "Engine oil level should be close to “MAX” condition. If in case of oil level is not in above mentioned condition, then top-up the oil to “MAX” condition and repeat the procedure. Do not overfill above the “MAX” mark as it may affect the clutch function." Note the bit about the bike being level, and not necessarily the case on the centre stand, suspension height changes etc.....Most likely RE are suggesting the max oil volume in an attempt to assist engine cooling, rather than a concern over oiling
Many thanks Robert. Your wisdom is always welcome. I did notice the engine not getting as hot yesterday on a 250km trip
Finding absolutely level ground seems to be crucial as it makes a big difference to the oil level in the sight glass. Thanks for reminding me to read the instructions for checking the oil level in the manual. I have been checking when the engine is cold, which gives similar results.
Yes. Level ground is important. Thanks for pointing that out. I forgot to mention it. Over filling is just as bad as under filling. I think that is the reason for running the bike and getting it warm first. So the warmer oil can easily flow for a correct reading after it has all settled again. It’s just the max fill line is very odd. So one must be carefully. 🙏
Very interesting video. I had the same issue with my Triumph America 2003.
On a suggestion from an old time mechanic , he suggested fill the oil to the top of the second line , if the tapping goes away great. If not fill the glass oil until it Barely reaches the top of the glass sight as you found out.
In my manual it does say half way but for some reason never worked well with noisy tappets
I’ve always been a half way guy until recently. Bike now is certainly quieter and runs cooler 🙏
Yes on a Royal Enfield it pays to have the level at the line & it also helps the wet clutch & gearbox to make smooth shifts to stop false neutrals.
It is the same for all RE 650's.
I would top mine up when it about 2mm below tbe line no more it helps with smooth shifts & keeps engine lubricated.It's the same with all wet clutch bikes but I keep the oil high on any bike.
Yes sir. Now I just have to educate my local Royal Enfield service centre. After 5,000km oil change, only filled to half way. 🙏
muchas gracias, profesor, por la información. Saludos desde Chile! Cuando venga por estos lados, bienvenido!
You are welcome, and thank you. You too 🙏
Thank you teacher 🎉
Ha ha. You are welcome 😂🙏
Many thanks for the information, great video,.I will check my Super Meteor in the morning, I have not long had my first service done. 👍 I am very curious to see if it's at the correct level....I will report back 👍
Yes please let me know. Sadly mine wasn't after service. Would be interesting to know 🙏
A few more detail items for pondering: Tilt the motorcycle on both LH and RH sides to drain the oil completely (source: RE Service Manual INT650) Apply thread sealant on drain plug thread, Use a new washer on drain plug before torquing to spec. (source: RE Owners Manual INT650 US) No where in the RE manuals is it mentioned that a new oil filter should be pre-filled before installing.
Thanks for the info 🙏
I've had my main bike for 35 years, a 1988 HD Low Rider, I've always done the servicing myself, I don't trust dealer servicing. March 2023, I brought my second road bike, a HD Pan Am Enthusiasts Collection Special, the beautiful army green version, now I have to get the dealer service for warrantee, I check the oil after every service, first service it was low, second service they didn't screw the oil filter on correctly and it leaked oil and was also quite low, I guess they are trying to save money on oil and create a problem so they can claim a warrantee fix for when the motor breaks, lol.
I haven't had any problems with the bike, I didn't get it to go off road, got it as and all roads sports tourer and commuter in the city of Melbourne Australia. It suits our country roads because they are as rough as guts, not maintained.
Cambodia, Canada and Australia. Good to see my videos are travelling. Thanks for watching🙏
Thx for the wright oil level. But my service station owner did it wright, but thanks anyway.Regards from Germany René
It’s good to hear your service centre is on the ball. Not all are sadly. 🙏
I have a meteor 650. My oil levels were not at perfect and were below the max line, but not drastically below. A little above the half. And my engine never made such noise. Also, is very hard to get an accurate reading because of lack of level ground. I believe, so as long it’s above the half, or as long as your engine oil light doesn’t flag you, you’re good to go. I did however top off a little last night, but extremely careful as level ground is hard to find. But I’ll keep monitoring.
Yes best to keep checking the levels when ever possible 🙏
Outstanding reminder and information on the oil level. Royal Enfield now have NO Authorized dealers where I live (last one went into administration) and I got my first service recently done by an ex RE mechanic that and worked at that now defunct dealership. I will be checking my oil again, the first chance I get. The genuine RE oil looks red?
Thanks. No the genuine oil is normal colour, but the ‘Motogul’ brand I bought is red. Which is ok because the original has gone very dark coloured on mine after it was changed at 500km. Now at 5,500 km. Next oil change is 10,000 km 🙏
From the manual.
"""After first service, valve clearance adjustment is required every 12 months regardless of mileage."""
Can you tell me what page of the manual you are reading that on please? I can’t find anything that says that. Only this:
“It is recommended that the routine maintenance of the motorcycle be carried out at specified intervals and any maintenance to the evaporative emission control systems should be performed only by an Authorised Royal Enfield Service Centre and using only genuine Royal Enfield spare parts.” That is why the spanner indicates on the Speedo to inform you when to go for service. Valve clearance checks on a bike parked up in a garage for 6 months of the year makes no sense, unless you live in a very cold country? Maybe it’s different ?
PERIODICAL MAINTENANCE page 100.
@@nicholaspratt7934 Got it. So we are both correct. After first 500km service, every 12 months or 10,000km which ever comes first. The Km would certainly come first for me. 🙏 And hopefully you concur on the oil level 😂
@@Teacher-T-Thailand I have to agree with you. If you aren't riding your bike how can the valve clearance go out of spec? I think perhaps Royal Enfield just wants to get some money from the owners at least once a year to meet their financial needs.
@@jlrutube1312 agreed 😂
On my new bikes I change oil and filter at 311 miles (500 kilometers); my 2020 650INT has over 37,000 miles without any problems.
Glad to hear. For some reason they are only recommending this on the Meteor.
Tbh first thing I'd do after picking up the bike from the service centre is a quick look at the sight glass! It's even easier now with these windows into the heart of your engine, but even with a dip stick it's a 30 second job, oh yeah and I'd use fully synthetic oil over the semi stuff 😊 but seriously anyone who is not doing basic checks is a poor rider 😢
Sure, but the point of this video is to alert you to the level. For some reason max level is being recommended not the middle level, which is very odd. For Meteor 650 only!
@@Teacher-T-Thailand Mmm still better a bit more than a bit less I guess 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing 👍. I will be interested to hear about "Wingman" as I heard it mentioned fleetingly in another vlog, but no detail. I did comment and ask for further information on what they had mentioned, nothing heard 😮. Seperate point some vlogs mention the SM having a slipper clutch, what are your thoughts?Will you be fitting the camera system to your SM?
Thanks Bob. Yes I do need to fit a camera. School is out now, so I should order one up and make a video again. I have the time. Thanks for reminding me. The Meteor 650 does not have a slipper clutch. But it is easy to slip the clutch yourself with a slight squeeze of the clutch handle. Don’t get too excited about the Wingman. I don’t think it will catch on 😂🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand I meant to mention if you buy the plug in splitter you will have a live feed for the camera system when the bike is switched on.Ive been dithering on Shotgun or SM and decided in the end the SM is right for me. Any updates on the modified rider seat would be good to see 👏
@@BobfmBali ha ha. The seat much better for me now I’ve cut it. Much softer. But for the odd occasion the wife will go with me, I think I have to invest in the touring seat. Easy and quick to change over. I just don’t like the look of it. Another Video Bob for an update 😂🙏
Perhaps the Motul oil saved the day. Maybe use that on your next oil change.
Ha ha. Are you a promoter of Motul? The only way I can replace all the oil is to do it myself on next service. My Enfield centre only uses Enfield oil.
@@Teacher-T-Thailand 🙂 It would save me a fortune maintaining my bikes if I was. Hopefully keeping your oil level filled to the max level will do the job. It just seems a bit odd having to do that. At least you're enjoying your bike again.
@@themotorider1 I sure am. New video in 3 hours time confirming the oil level required on the different 650 models 🙏
I've always kept my oil level on my Super Meteor about half way between the two lines like on my other Enfields, this is truely bizarre that the Super Meteor should be different. I wonder if this also applies to the other 650 twins? Thank you for your diligence!
You are welcome. It is true.y bizarre, and I too have been running g at half way since I had the bike. As set by my RoyalEnfield dealer. But the official videos does state max level. They must have had an overheating issue, and increased the level. Also in the owners manual page 53. Bizarre!
In the video we saw Motul oil being used to top up the level. Do you use Motul oil in your bike and if so did you notice any difference?
I could only find Motul locally. So I’ve only topped up with it. I put in half a litre! But the bike is running much quieter. Page 53 of the owners manual confirms max level fill.
so below is the RE video for my bike gt650, its different in terms of time and level, its the same engine, wonder why RE has changed this, maybe its so that between services the level stays within the range
I think the engines are similar, but not 100% the same. I did hear rumours of early models having problems. And I think this is why Wingman is being introduced on the Meteor only at the moment. It’s like a live diagnostics sending information back to RE! Page 53 of the Meteor manual confirms the max level. 🙏
Hello Teacher! Do you have more information on the fairing mounted to the Super Meteor in the thumbnail?
Very cool isn’t it 👌 I do and I don’t. Give me a day or so, and I will get back to you 🙏
@@Teacher-T-ThailandVery cool indeed.
I did once fill up the oil on my interceptor to the max but then it didnt idle properly ill check again
🙏
Whats your most comfortable speed in this bike. And thanks for all your tutorial videos
Today I went on a long cruise with friends. My school has closed, so had the day off. I have softened my seat, which helps ( see my video). Also I have my suspension set at setting 2. Now the bike is 4 months old and 5,500 km, the suspension is much better. So 100kph is comfortable now. 120kph easy to attain when overtaking. But not comfortable or relaxed riding at this speed all the time 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand thanks for the reply
My 2021 Interceptor is exactly halfway between the two marks. It was at that level when I bought it new off the showroom floor. When I change the oil and filter, I add the amount it says to add in the owner's manual and that brings it to the halfway level again, just like when it was new. I have never had any problems and the level never moves between oil changes. Is it possible the engine in the Super Meteor sits at a slightly different angle and that makes the level in the oil window different? I can't imagine any other reason that the oil level marks would no longer be accurate. As in anything else, tractors etc., that use a sight glass for oil level the bottom always means add and the top always means full. Anything in between is good to go.
I’ve just updated the video description. Here I have put links to the official Royal Enfield Video and where you can download load the manual in English. Please please please, I am only pointing this out for the Meteor 650. Not the Continental for Interceptor. I want to save engines, not ruin them! The gearing ratio on the Meteor 650 is very different, producing a higher revved engine. I think this is why RE are recommending a higher oil level. I also think this is why they are fitting the Wingman diagnostics checker the the Meteor only also. But please check the links. My information for the Meteor is correct. 🙏
If I remember the Super Meteor has a smaller wheel in back and a taller one in front as compared to the interceptor. Perhaps that has something to do with the angle of the engine and might impact the way oil appears in the sight glass. However, the Super Meteor has an entirely different frame completely redesigned specifically for the Super Meteor with that particular engine so you would think that the engine would sit correctly in spite of the wheel size. Hard to say.
@@jlrutube1312 I’m sure it’s to do with different gear ratios and a higher revving engine on the Meteor. If you watch the window when revving the engine, the oil disappears 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand the oil also disappears from the window when revving the engine in my 2021 Interceptor. I think Royal Enfield needs to redesign the oil window for the newer engine. They're setting themselves up for damaged engines by using a sight glass designed for engines that run on a lower level of oil.
My 2023 INT650 Owner's Manual says to assure the oil level is between the MIN and MAX marks. Wonder why the Super Meteor procedure would be different. Also, why put a MIN mark on the SM if it is not to be used?
Yes. And even though the engines are similar, they are not exactly the same. Page 53 of the Meteor owners manual confirms max level to fill on oil level. I think there have been problems, hence the recommended increase. 🙏
The MIN mark? Perhaps like tyre tread depth - the lower it gets, start to worry! For the SM, oil should be near to max, and top up to max. That's my take.
Very interested in the belt drive for Super Meteor 650 can it bought from the uk and how mutch does it cost ? or is there a wbsite i can look at thanks
Yes there is a website in the video description of the belt drive video. It is very good 👍
I too am interested. But I must ride on one mile of dirt road before I get to pavement. I fear that the belt, especially with no guard, will not hold up. The only thing I hate more than cleaning chains and the oil fling mess from my rear wheel is getting stranded someplace with a broken belt. Maybe my fear is unfounded...
@@doughoffman9463 I too am the same. Live at the end of a dirt / grit / stone lane. I will do a review video in the future, but want to give it some real time first
@@Teacher-T-Thailand Thank you sir!
Hi teacher t, I was just considering buying the super 650 since I really liked test riding it, but this whole top end noise and oil thing concerns me now. I need a very reliable bike after riding my 1988 steed 600 for 17 years, so maybe a watercooled Honda Rebel is a safer choice? Cheers from Bangkok!
I too have a Honda Steed 600. There is nothing wrong with the Super Meteor. I am just pointing out the oil levels, as my Owners manual was in Thai. It seems many people are unaware also, including my RE dealer. 3 year warrantee. Nothing to worry about. The engine is good. But also consider the Kawasaki Vulcan 650s. I will be making a review video soon. I was very impressed with the bike.
@@Teacher-T-Thailand Thank you, good to know. I'll keep my steed, but like to get the Super Meteor for touring. In comparison it feels much stronger, especially at the top end of the rpm range. Looking forward seeing the Kawasaki vid!
@@teamrambocat you won’t be using your Steed much after you get a new bike 😂
@Teacher-T-Thailand I think that happened to you, lol. Well, if so, maybe time to let mine go. I was offered 140k for it last month.
@@teamrambocat wow. 140k. Bite their hand off. I would struggle to get 80k for mine up here in CR! And mine is very tidy and fully legal. ,🙏
La mia moto nonostante il livello dell'olio sia giusto fa lo stesso rumore della tua nel video secondo te come posso risolvere perfavore rispondimi grazie mille ❤❤
What is your KM on the bike? A friend of mine said valve clearance too tight causes a noise. You should get a valve clearance check done at 500km and 10,000 km. I asked again to get mine done at 5,000 km and watched the do it. But the oil level at maximum has certainly helped. 🙏
10000 km@@Teacher-T-Thailand
@@antoniorusso1650 ok, so you are due a service. Oil change and valve clearance check. Just make sure oil is at maximum level when they change.
Only has to be between the lines, should not have to be at top line
I would normally agree with you, but if the watch the official Royal Enfield video (link in description) or read the owners manual at page 53, it states maximum level.
@@Teacher-T-Thailand maybe they should have only put one line on!!!
@@michaelodwyer2815 I don’t know what the logic is, but can only conclude that they had to increase the level, and changed guidance in manuals and videos. Being a generic engine that fits other models, the Meteor does Rev higher due to wheel sizes and gearing 🙏
It is not clear why they changed the method of height of the oil from the interceptor?
ua-cam.com/video/Xdq9ylbp8IQ/v-deo.html
And why do they say to run the engine to 3000RPM when there is no RPM gauge at all
That’s why my video is titled Meteor 650. For this bike they are 100% recommending max level on their videos and owners manual. The interceptor and Continental I need to do more research. But the video you linked was uploaded 4 years ago. So maybe things have changed. Let’s find out. As for 3,000 rpm yes I agree, no Rev counter, but by ear it’s a 3rd of max rev. 🙏
Was sagt das Manuel wie der Oelstand sein muss??🤔
A good question. The manual only gives you the dry fill which they say is 3.9 Litres. Nothing about level. I got the level information from this RE video: ua-cam.com/video/PoJOm8UIExQ/v-deo.htmlsi=8QlSSMSew5Jf8Xyd
@@Teacher-T-Thailand Thank you👍!
@@uweyaa Found it now. Page 53 on English manual. It says make sure oil level is at Max level!!!!!!!
@@Teacher-T-Thailand 👍
TT, how did you acquire an English language manual?