Meteor 650 suspension upgrade. Hagon Shocks - Are they any good?
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
- In this video Teacher T orders, fits, and reviews Hagon after market rear shocks for the Royal Enfield Super Meteor 650. Are they any good?
I have also lowered the bike, using the lowering 290mm units.
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I've been patiently waiting for this video.
I'm collecting my 650 super meteor this week .
Will order these shocks right away 😊
I've just recovered from a back injury. Wouldn't want to risk it .
Wow. Fantastic news. These shocks are certainly back savers, and they make the Meteor such a more comfortable bike to ride. I’m pleased to have helped in your decision. Good luck and all the best with your new bike 🙏
Hope your back get's better soon, unfortunately I am currently working through a back issue myself, so you have my sympathies.
Muchas gracias por este gran video, estoy por comprarme la shogun 650 y tu canal me esta sirviendo mucho
Thank you. I found the standard rear suspension on the Shotgun much more comfortable. One owner told be it.s 20mm longer than the Meteor. All the best, and enjoy your new bike 🙏
Great vid sir! Safe rides!
Many thanks. It was fun to make, and from the heart 🙏
I’ve had the super meteor for around 7 months. Just fitted the Hagen shocks! I can’t believe the difference!
I would recommend this if you want to save your spine! Fantastic. Thanks for the vids as I probably px the bike otherwise
Roger
So glad to hear they worked for you also. Like you I waited around 7 months thinking the originals would loosen up some how. Sadly they didn’. But the Hagons have made a world of difference🙏
I’ve been a fan of Hagen for years, ok decades, and I’m glad to see the worked well on your bike. Should make traveling and your daily commute much easier on you.
More fun ridding I’d say. Yep very happy with them. Just hope they last 🙏
Thanks for this great video👍
Thanks so much for your support, as always 🙏
Very good TT. TO ME THE SM650 is the best looking bike in the range. Now you’ve proven the shock issue can be resolved I am now preparing submissions to the internal ministry of home affairs for an acquisition in the near future. Also, throw in the belt drive and I agree it’s going to be the best all round bike of the year. Well done.
Thank you. I’m now back in love with the bike. 🙏
Thank you Teacher T. I'll seriously consider the upgrade in the middle future
You are welcome. Safe riding 🙏
Thanks TT. Its been a year waiting for a video on suspension upgrade and finally you delivered the present. I was patiently waiting foe your review and here we go. I am going to order one post getting approval from home ministry. Cheers TT
Good luck with the home ministry 😂 🙏
Great video Mr T, and amazing sandals 😂😂😂😂.
41 degrees filming that video and changing the shocks. 😂🙏
Just put on my new Hagon shocks and Im totally impressed over the crappy stock shocks. RE needs to make a deal with Hogan to make these standard. Thanks for the Hagon recommendation. It turned the SM 650 into a magic carpet.
Glad they worked for you also. Thanks for sharing 🙏
Enfield should have designed this with a mono-shock. Nothing beats the long travel it would provide on and off road
Yes, I was very impressed with the Kawasaki Vulcan S 650 with its mono shock when I test rode it. In fact pushed me to buy after market shocks. And I’m so pleased I did 🙏
Mono are OK till you have to replace it then it costs a lot £300-400 +
@@kevindarkstar A TW Tec shock for Enfield Continental (RC302-360T-49) is £269 each. So a pair is £538. So it is possible to spend more on a stupid twin shock without getting the suspension travel a mono's lever gives. Look up the figures of suspension travel and compare. I don't like the wobble a twin shock gives when hitting a bump at speed cranked over on a corner. No modern racing bikes or competitive off road bikes have twin shocks for good reason....There is no point Enfield reproducing the worst of the past when we have invented better
@@xtc2v there is if it's not in keeping with the style and heritage of the bike in question, after all ya hardly going to be flying around corners on cruiser
Success! They look to be good shocks.
Yes a major success. Couldn’t be happier 🙏
Great that the bike fits you better now be more confident I was like that with my 1290 adv s hated when I was coming to a stop I’ve only got 27”in seem so struggle with height but got a rocket now so I’m fine take care ride safe
Many thanks. You too 🙏
Nice video. If you experiment with the rebound damping adjustment, please post a video.
Yes more detail to follow. I am waiting to see Robert who is skilled more than I am in damping adjustments 🙏
I put some Hagons on my Bonneville (many years ago) and they were so good. I'm seriously considering a Shotgun and think Hagons would make a great upgrade and look way better too :)
Strangely I found the rear shocks on the Shotgun OK. I am being told they are longer also. 330mm instead of 310mm. Plus mid pegs and a floating suspended seat helps with comfort over bumpy roads. But I’m sure Hagon make a longer set to fit. Safe riding 🙏
I bought a shotgun650 few weeks ago..ergonomics on the shotgun are superb for "back health" but a softer rear shock would make it even better..seriously considering Hagon shocks when they arrive for shotgun
@@Makul-rt4sz I'm sure they already exist. Just a case of messaging Hagon. ,🙏
But I agree: compared wit my Harley Sportster the front suspension on my SM 650 (brand new) is better, but the rear is worse. I consider to replace it as well. Thanks for you review!!!
You are welcome. The rear suspension is now on par with the Harley Nightster I recently rode. Thanks and safe riding 🙏
I will order for my super media as soon as I got the money
I think it’s a wise purchase. A priority over exhaust silencers in my opinion. 🙏
So pleased to see this video come out and your reaction to the new shocks. Questions, questions.. Very much looking forward to the fitting video as well. So here are my questions or comments. First the start up after being away. That was impressive, did you have the battery on a trickle charger or anything like that? My only concern would be the drain on my bike due to the tracker, but a month with no charging was amazing.
Second. You mentioned the seat. Did you not get someone improvement after your modification and recovering of the seat. Did you not find that your modification helped with your leg height. I am particularly interested in this because it's high on my list of tasks for my SM650?
Next, the centre stand. Waiting on the fitting video to see how you overcame this so watching for that. However, I had the thought that if the centre stand was not going to work with the new shocks you might consider taking it off and loosing all that excess weight?
Finally, my thoughts on the Hagon shocks themselves. Personally I would need to get rid of those God awful stickers. Maybe put black shrink wrap over them or something like that, but personally they scream "I don't belong here".
Very excited to see the Belt Drive video as that looks like a huge mod, but maybe very worthwhile. Will wait for the fitting video, but damn Teacher I think you are going to cost me money 🤯 Great work as always and much appreciated given that this was done with your own money.
My bike is not fitted with a tracker. And no trickle charge. Just left in the garage as I left it the month previous. Some trackers only track when the bike is in motion, so hopefully disconnect when not? The seat mod has certainly made the seat softer. And more comfortable for the man bits also when moving the bike with your feet. As for leg height, only slightly, but not as noticeable as changing the rear shocks from 310mm to 290mm. As for the centre stand, it comes in useful for wheel cleaning and chain lubing. But even with a belt drive, it does come in handy for the 3,000 km inspection, where you spin the wheel and look for wear. 9 times out of 10, no adjustment needed. But when it does, again the centre stand is handy. So it will stay. Agreed on the stickers on the Hagon shocks! Shrink rap or black electrical tape will sort it. 😂 Compared to the price of a Harley Davidson, some room with money to modify 🙏👌😂
@@Teacher-T-Thailand It didn't take long, but I have already taken the plunge with purchasing these shocks this afternoon. As more folks see your video I expect there to be a rush on the Hitchcock's supply. Looking forward to getting these and seeing any tips you may have in the next video. Gentle reminder to take a look at your rear sprocket nuts Teacher?
Impressive - and relatively inexpensive too, compared to the YSS equivalents. Having such low ground clearance out of the factory, I'm a bit surprised you weren't trailing sparks on the twisties, having dropped it even further.
They are impressive. And it’s only the back that has dropped, where the ground clearance issue is only on the front end really. 🙏
I leave all my bike 6 months in Thailand till i come back, and they all start when i come back.
I do however disconnect the ground cables from the batteries.
Only once i had a problem after not been there over a year the scooter didn’t start anymore, but that was a problem with the ethanol in the fuel.
Since then i fill up everything with benzin 95 instead of gasohol before we leave.
My CRF250 and CMX500 I could leave for 6 months without even disconnecting the battery. My CB500x not, because of the flashing alarm light. Agreed on the ethanol. It is a problem. I will follow you Benzin tip 🙏
Anything nowadays with a carb is at risk for long storage. The ethanol mix has messed up any carb motor I own to include generators and garden tools. I try to stick with fuel injection wherever possible. I have had no problem with anything fuel injected.
It would be nice if you could make a video for mini ape hangers, which ones to get, how to install...
Noted. I have considered in the past. Even ordered some. But they didn’t fit. Any that you can recommend?
With 290mm, Centre stand still usable? Harder to push up onto?
Yes and no. If you watch this video to the end, you will see I use a piece of wood to raise the bike when centre stand required. ua-cam.com/video/1h1J09k1xww/v-deo.htmlsi=4ffAiA_Wkp82IgYN
I have a set of Hagon shrouded shocks on my Classic 500. Well I won't after tomorrow though. 10500 miles and they're shot. Been on the bike since new and are out of warranty. Until they packed in they were very comfortable, but I'm not enamoured by the lifespan. No oil leaks so I suspect the gas has leaked out. Shame really. Hope you have a better experience re longevity than I had. I like the look of the ones you fitted, nicer than the originals.
10,500 miles is no mileage at all. How did they pack in?
@@Teacher-T-Thailand pretty much the gas leaked out. Stripped them down and no oil leaks also very slow to rebound after being compressed.
@@FATBOY692011 sorry to hear that. I hope I don’t suffer such short life failure. So far so good. Actually I had 6 hours in the saddle yesterday and the ride was awesome. Such a better bike with some decent shocks on it. 🙏
Great video! Thank you very much from Brazil. The SM 650 is coming soon here and I will be one of the first owners. I like too much your tips and experiences. I have a Royal Enfield Classic 500 for four years. Please, tell me how tall you are. Thank you again.
Good luck with the new bike. I’m 5’8’’, but my inside leg is only 28’’. You will notice a vast improvement from the Classic 500. 🙏
Thanks for the answer. I'm 5´10" (1.78m), so I think I'll be fine on this bike in relation to the ground. I really prefer lower bikes. I am really excited waiting for the Super Meteor. Have a nice weekend.
I'm glad to see other shocks do help. Got bad back pain during and after every ride. I just would wish I could get some shocks here in Thailand, I just paid an awful lot of import fees and tax on a handlebar I ordered from Bykology, India. BTW, do you still like to sell your steed? My friend keeps asking.
You should be able to get YSS shocks here and not pay any tax. And yes I'm not using the Seed much any more. Prepared to sell it. Watch a UA-cam video on how to direct message a channel . Then you can find me e mail address. Can't post here sadly 🙏
Good on you mate, I'm really happy the shocks worked out so well 😀 With the older bike not starting after a month..Can I venture to say that it may be more to do with the age of the battery rather than the age of the bike? I am very much looking forward to your belt drive fitting video, my belt drive kit has arrived and I'm pretty bloody nervous about the fitting procedure, so I'm very glad you're making the video, thanks 😀🙏
The older bike had a new battery not long ago. But they never last long, because it’s a hard engine to turn over, drawing a lot of ampage. It was no surprise it wouldn’t start. I normally have a trickle charger for that one, but it’s stopped working for some reason. Good to hear your kit has arrived. Let me know your concerns, and I will make sure I cover them 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand thank you much appreciated 🙏 I would be interested to hear your thoughts on preventative maintenance such as replacing the cush rubbers and some of the bearings that Robert mentions in the instructions. And also the best way to tension the various fasteners and nuts and the tools required for performing this upgrade without a second person the assist. I am planning a big trip up the east coast of Australia in July this year with my Wingman of the Road 'Toucan' motorcycle tent. And I definitely want to get the belt drive installed before I commence this trip, which could be thousands of KM and several months in duration as I am planning to commence in southern Tasmania, then take my bike on the ship to the mainland, then go all the way up to Cairns Queensland to visit family. It's very exciting but a little daunting 😳😃🙏
@@felixVanDiemen sounds like a real adventure. I rode 3 hours to RS Tech yesterday. It took 2 hours to fit the belt drive (1 hour fitting, 1 hour getting the correct tension). I recorded all the torque settings required and plan to make and edit a video soon. Then I had the 3 hour ride back home. 1st hour slow. 2nd hour medium, 3 hour 120kph all the way. The lack of chain snatch gave me more confidence rolling on and off power around the corners. And the new shocks made the bike glide. The combination is awesome. The hardest job is getting the back wheel off from such a heavy rear ended bike. I’m looking for solutions 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand good on you mate! I was just talking to Robert about the belt drive kit and he mentioned that you had been around and had filmed a fitting video, great stuff!
As I was saying to him it’s people like yourself and him that make this such a rewarding community to be a part of.
Blooming marvellous 😊🥳🙏
@@felixVanDiemen you are welcome. Found a solution. Filmed it this afternoon 😂🙏
I have booked Meteor 650 some months back and i loved it.However recently I have heard lot of videos mentioning that we shud not buy this as mainly it has chain sprocket issue and spare parts availability issue..Is this true..Need ur feedback..Have RE already started working on the issues.
Scare mongering from other manufacturers maybe? There is a small issue with the sprocket nuts undoing themselves. I plan to make a video about it soon. But remember all RE bikes come with a 3 year warranty. There is a delay ordering some parts it’s true. Maybe because RE have become so successful; recently they are struggling to keep up with orders of new bikes. Any links you can send me that you have seen would be helpful 🙏
Good afternoon teacher!
I live in Brazil and did a test ride with the SM 650 and found the rear shock absorbers hard. Where to buy better shock absorbers for SM 650? Thanks.
A link where to get them is in the video description from UK. But this may take too long or cause too much import tax for you. Just look for decent 310mm long shocks in your country. YSS or Hagon. Maybe you have a local supplier? But yes the stock shocks are very hard, and one major fault with the bike. I kept mine on for 6 months with the hope they would get better in times. Sadly they didn’t. Good luck. Apart from this, a great bike. 🙏
Hi, great videos. Can you explain to me why you choose a smaller one? What´s the advantage of that? I'm thinking in changing too but i will most of the times ride with 2 persons, wont the bike be to lower?
Thanks and greetings from Portugal
The standard length for suspension is 310mm. That is original length. As long as you are happy with the seat height, then you can order replacement shocks at 310mm. I ordered 290mm because before hand I was always on top toes. With any shock, you are supposed to change the pre load when a pillion gets on the bike. This stops the bike lowering too much. Same goes for luggage. All the best in Portugal 🙏
Quando a garantia da minha acabar já sei qual vai ser a primeira coisa que vou trocar kkkkk
If you have cha ged your air filter or exhausts already the same warranty issue exists But within 10,0000 km I would consider it. The price of a new chain and sprockets goes a long way towards a belt drive 🙏
Hello. Pls can anyone tell men what tire pressure do you use? 41 36 seems way to high..thanks!
Tyre pressures are stated at 41 psi front and 38 rear. They are high. But this is for the Ceeta brand tyres that came with the bike. If carrying a Pillion they state 42 front and back. The pressures are printed on the label of the swing arm. I ran 36 rear for a while. But you can feel it not as sharp on the corners at high speed. Are you experiencing comfort issues?
I did that with the rubbers on my yss shocks,found i was only getting about 20mm of travel,so backed off the preload
How do you find the YSS. I wanted to fit them, but got annoyed with their service. 🙏
The best thing i can say is that i dont notice the rear anymore,so they are working,but ive bought a pair of hagon shrouded shocks because i like the classic look
Off subject, but how do you feel about the seat? Would you spend extra for a touring seat or do you find the stock Super Meteor seat okay?
That was the first modification I did to my bike, as I found the seat too hard. You can watch my video here : ua-cam.com/video/afmk5rYm3R8/v-deo.html
А где вы живете? Я проживал определённое время в паттае, интересно где другим иностранцам понравилось)
I live and work in rural Chiang Rai. 🙏
Hi sounds great but what model number where they..???
Depends if you want black, chrome or retro. Lowered or normall. So 6 choices. All info in the video description for the link to the web page 🙏
Ok , I have to ask , Why would you have to pre register motorcycle shocks in your non carry on luggage ?
That was my question also, but no real answer given. I suppose they wanted tax on the imported item. Even though I paid 20% tax in the UK. Luckily just a slap on the wrist and don’t do it again.
I am from India and I'm also considering replacing the shocks to shorter ones
but not sure about the price for transportation of these hagon shocks.
You can ask Hitchcocks UK, or direct to Hagon. I'm sure they can answer you. Postage may be expensive, but I don't think you have to pay the 20% UK tax. Also watch tonight's video that launches at 6pm. At the end I show photos of a new suspension lowering device.
@@Teacher-T-Thailandthank you for your reply, looking forward to the video 👍🏼
I’ll probably email them for an inquiry.
Thanks again @Teacher T. Love your videos.
@@simonshylla9739 Thanks for watching 😂🙏
Puoi darmi il codice degli ammortizzatori così posso acquistarli in Italia?
The website where to order is in the video description. And at the 30 second mark of the video you can see the choices and part numbers 🙏
I’m sure there’s a custom dude looking at making the rear end monoshock
I doubt it. Would mean redesigning the whole chassis. Easier to just change shocks for better ones 🙏
Front forks good, original rear shocks are shite.
Agreed 100% 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand You have sold me, just placed my order. BTW, does that gaudy Hagon sticker come off?
@@TXLorenzo I’m sure I does, or can come off lol. But when on the bike not that noticeable. My initial feelings weee the same. If ordering the lowering shocks, make sure to remove both at the same time before adding the new ones. Watch my fitting video 😂🙏
Wh wouldn't it start after 30 days? There is no permanant ant theft device that consimes power, The only reason (here un Germany) would be th ba quality of gasoline nowadays, which tends to become jelly :-( .
Sorry for the spelling errors 😞
Yes very true. And in 40 plus degrees in my garage that can happen very quickly. And that is what I was worried about, as much as the battery. 🙏
😂🙏
You don't say exactly what the problem is with the original shocks. What is the nature of the improvement? My problem with the originals is that the ride is far too hard. Do the new shocks address this problem?
I have made lots of videos about the rear suspension. My criticism has been constant.nMy first criticism is that setting preload 1 should be banned. All bikes roll out of the showroom like this. Even the lightest of riders will bottom out the suspension on a pot hole on this setting. And the if you change to preload 2 or 3 the ride becomes too hard. I gave them 6 months, and no change. After market shocks are a lot softer, as you can control the damping settings also. A worthy upgrade. 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand Hi....something must have changed. I am baffled. Straight from the showroom on setting 1, the rear suspension is impossibly hard...or am I getting it wrong and it's actually bottoming out all the time? It FEELS like there's no suspension at all. I weigh 87 kgs. Must do more research and test. And have a chat with Hitchcocks. Thanks for your reply.
@@SuffolkWoodexactly. it's the bottoming out causing the discomfort. There are 5 preload settings. Setting 3 should stop the bottoming out, but will make the ride a hard one. They look good, but perform terribly.
Dude, are you speaking in the third person or is that a Thai thing...doesn't detract from your videos...just a minor niggle
Ha ha. I’m new to UA-cam really. And I go into teacher mode when speaking sadly. 😂🙏
I'm a American expat running a hospital in rural India and getting a Shotgun 650 this month..you influenced my decision...drive safe drive hard...
Always nice to see a good result. 🥲
More happy than my previous video 😂🙏
Thank TT I booked the bike. I am waiting for this video to decide if I will go ahead with the purchase or cancel the booking. Looks like I’m getting the SM after all 😂.
I am humbled. Good luck with the new bike 🙏👌