Who were the Phoenicians? Phoenician History
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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The earliest rendition of a fully useable Alphabetic script was from the Canaanite city of Ugarit (just north of Arvad of the coast of the Levant in modern day Syria), just before the bronze age collapse 1300-1190 BC. The Ugaritic alphabet is the direct ancestor of the later Phoenician alphabet which they exposed the entire Mediterranean world to and other Alphabetic scrips evolved from that-One of which I am using now to write this comment
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It's a damn shame the Phoenician records got burned, imagine all the knowledge lost..
Is so sad, hopefully, one day they find an intact library of theirs (I am sure will re-write history)
@@EpimetheusHistory
Hope so too
A comment like this always seems to appear immediately following a Roman conquest of an ancient contemporary.
After the agricultural, industrial and scientific revolutions, it won't impact anyone's life. The British were far more influential as innovators, traders and empire builders. (We're even using their language to communicate.)
How sad alexa play hymn to nikkal
I've recently been reading about how they may have circumnavigated africa. Interesting people, great stuff!
I believe they probably did, and probably made it to Scandinavia too, seeing as it is not that far from Britain who they bought tin from.
They did for sure, this is attested by Egyptian records (the Egyptians paid for the trip) and the most notorious evidence of its truthfulness is something that raised many eyebrows back in the day: they claimed to have seen the Sun to the North at noon. Another great Phoenician (Carthaginian) sailor was Hanno the navigator, who traveled all the way to Cameroon (documenting an eruption of the volcano of the same name) and further south maybe to Congo but didn't find anywhere interesting to trade with so they came back empty-handed.
More difficult to believe is their alleged arrival to America based on some stuff found in Brazil (unsure of the details right now) but in any case it's clear to me that if Carthage would have won the Punic wars, America would have been "discovered" by Westerners a thousand years earlier than it was. Those people were real sailors, not like landlubber Romans.
As for Scandinavia, it's now clear that Greeks went all the way to that area, so why not Phoenicians whom we know were trading at Cornwall for tin?
@@EpimetheusHistory they were i belive the first outsiders to reach the coast of west africa which is actually pretty impressive considering it was easier to cross the sahara desert that particular tropical region is difficult for sailing apparently greek accounts say that hano the navigator was trading with mysterious men past the pillars of Hercules historians believing those mysterious men to be the sonnike peoples and other carthage accounts of encountering tiny men near what some believe is Cameroon possibly mubuti pygmies
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soninke_Wangara
Necho II of Egypt is the one who financed and sent the voyage
@@LuisAldamiz "they claimed to have seen the Sun to the North at noon". This is probably the most amazing statement I've ever heard about an ancient civilization. How could they have known that unless they had actually crossed the Equator? And how far South did they go? Did they reach the Sinai peninsula from the south? How did they equip their ships? How many people did they contact? So many questions
Fun fact: Many uncovered grave stones of Carthaginians read "sons of Tyre". Carthage made annual voyages to their smaller sister city to give trbute in heaps of gold and resources. Carthaginians never seemed to have lost the connection to the motherland.
Manaqa...The motherland of Carthagenians were native black and brown Africans.The Phoenicians were Egyptians.The obvious truths of this history are coming to fuision.In addition native Africans inhabited Carthage long before the Egyptians settled there.
@@matiusbond6052 Native Africans were being hunted by lions, crocs, and hyenas and trampled by elephants lol. Even the people of the land of Kush, the region south of Egypt, were actually just ancient Arabs.
Both of the two earlier comments are wrong. Carthage was not black, and the kushites were Africans not arabs. That's like calling the ancient Egyptians, Arabs
Arabs weren't even in Africa enmass at that point
@@muhammadedwards8425 10% of comments on any video on ancient history will be people asserting that their own nation or ethnicity are in fact the centre of the universe
@@matiusbond6052 what fucking egyptians settled in carthage
One of the most underrated peoples in history, considering how much they contributed. Most records of them come from their enemies, Greeks, Romans, and Hebrews.
I aree. I would not really called Hebrews their enemies. They had quite close ties and trade was a big factor between Israel and Phonecian cities. Also some information about for instance currency used in Kingdom of Israel comes from archeological sites in former Phonecia, so sometimes it is other way around.
@Truth prevails
Moon is greek too
Get the fuck out of here
@Truth prevails According to Greek Mythology, Phoenix came from Phoenicia, not Greece.
The Hebrews weren't their enemies. Where did you get that from? On the contrary - the bible says the Phoenician kings had good relations with the Israelite kings and helped to build their temples.
E B First time hearing this, what is the source and background of this info, i really do not think this is consensus amongs historians.
I feel somewhat sorry for the Phoenicians, just because they settled in North Africa, now we have Hoteps and other crazies trying to claim that Carthaginians were Sub Saharan Africans and that Hannibal was as dark as a ninja
You guys are fucking idiots.
@@MrPanos2000 Oh Tariq Nasheed does that to Asians too, he painted blackface over Kublai Khan's retainers and said Ninjas were black
You guys are talking about the African-American Bantus from west Africa who claim everything
, The Phoenicians are Afroasiatic people from the semitic branch, They're related to Ethiopians who are also Semitic and Somalis who are Cushitic, Africa is a continent and sub-saharan Africa is just a geographic location not a race or ethnicity
Turkic nationalists do this as well and so did the Nazis to an extent with the whole Aryan thing. It’s not just unique to Afrocentrist circles. Typically nationalists try to claim credit for events they personally had nothing to do with of people they never met to try to make up for their own personal lack of accomplishments in life. It’s quite pitiful really.
@@zyzmys That's wrong the Phoenicians were Canaanites (the Canaanites where descendants of Kham: the son of No'akh) The Ethiopians ain't Shemetic! The Ethiopians are Khamitic! As is also the Somalis. And these "Bantus" that you had mentioned either came from Kham or they came from Shem.... they didn't come from nobody!
PROUD TO BE PHOENICIAN 🇱🇧
Love to Lebanon form Tunisia 🇹🇳🌹🇱🇧
Phoenician from tunisia Carthage 🇹🇳⚔️
Yeah but Lebanese have been mixed with Arabs, Greeks, French , Armenians and Turks. Saying your just one thing is king of contradicting and certainly deceiving.
@@lb3843 wrong we have little to no Greek, Armenian and French in our dna. 93% of our genetic ancestry is Phoenician
Sorry to break the news but most Lebanese people have arab blood and those who do have Phoenician blood aren’t pure they’re mixed with other ethnicities like Turks and Arabs
I'm Portuguese and we learn in school about how the Phoenicians and Carthaginians influenced the Iberia language and culture but we aren't even taught from where those 2 nations came from ! Ty for this video.
Also, dude from the thumbnail looks badass
I don't see that much of influence because the Iberian Peninsula was romanized to a great degree later (two emperor were patricians born there) and while the Lusitanians kept fighting Romans for some time, the majority of local inhabitants of what would be labelled later as Hispania, were likely to be ethnically Celts. Even after Roman collapse it was the Visigoths who took over, and in general they assimilated more of the local culture, than imposed theirs (for example, they eventually converted from Arianism to Trinitarianism) only with the Muslim invasion, there was a big shift in local culture and language, that not only evolved naturally as Latin did everywhere, but also assimilated Arabic words.
@@Neomalthusiano It wasn't just the Lusitanians who kept fighting the Romans. It took the Romans just over 2 centuries even after the fall of Carthage and Hannibal to subdue and Romanize most of the Celtic and Iberian tribes in Hispania. They lost a few legions in the process. I read somewhere that even the women from some of the tribes in the north charged the Romans never showing their backs to them, preferring to die in battle or even choosing to kill themselves and their children rather than be taken as slaves by the Romans.
ua-cam.com/video/itlWI8Y9-kg/v-deo.html
edstar83 The Celtiberian groups to hold out longest against Romanization were the Astures and the Cantabri of the North. Caesar Augustus himself had to personally lead his legions deep into the Cantabrian highlands and have his generals bribe the most corruptible elements of the neighboring lowland clans in order to finally put an end to the protracted Cantabrian Wars. (Some of the surviving Cantabri would go on to accompany the Romans later in various campaigns in Britannia.)
Interestingly, the Cantabri [still strongly Celtic in orientation and among the least Romanized groups inhabiting the peninsula] were the first Iberian group to be formally integrated into the nobility of the Visigothic court - in recognition of the critical role they played in aiding Don Pelagius’ forces in the destruction of the Muslim horde during the battle of Covadonga. This Celtibero-Gothic union was formalized via the marriage of Pelagius’ daughter to the son of Peter of Cantabria.
the union of Don Pelagius’ daughter and the son of Duke Fruela of Cantabria. (They would go on to have an heir who would be formally recognized as the first of king of Hispania, Alfonso I of Asturies.)
This Badass is Hamicar Barka, the Phoenician warrior from Carthage! (Just joking!) But my young compatriots look just as handsome or even better! Haha...
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The earliest rendition of a useable Alphabetic script was from the Canaanite city of Ugarit (just north of Arvad of the coast of the Levant in modern day Syria), just before the bronze age collapse 1300-1190 BC. The Ugaritic alphabet is the direct ancestor of the later Phoenician alphabet which they exposed the entire Mediterranean world which other Alphabetic scripts evolved from -One of which I am using now to write this comment
Great job and keep up the good work
Thanks! Ghostface Warrior
sir please please please reply that you will make a video on Rajput of India
I remember watching a video that Phoenician was influenced from the ancient Egyptian language. Not sure if thats correct though.
Indeed! The Ugaritic alphabet comes from proto-sinatic script, which is a simplification of Egyptian hieratic, which is in turn a quick way to write the hieroglyphs.
This means that the Phoenician alphabet, and by extension the Latin, Greek, Cyrillic, Hebrew and Arabic scripts are all descendants of the hieroglyphs!
"Europe" comes from "Europa"= a Phoenician princess.
@Truth prevails Greek mythos was influenced by Egyptian and Phoenician mythos. Hermes being the Greek version of the Egyptian Thoth for example. Zeus, Hades and Poseidon are influenced by the Phoenician division of gods. The Greek language itself derived from the Phoenician script. And for good measure, Greeks suffered from a high rate of sickle cell thalssemia, you'll figure out the significance of that fact later. Just thought I'd include some historical facts to your rant. And please tell us during what Egyptian dynastic period did "Greeks reign in Egypt's forgotten past". Egyptian dynastic records are very clear. Anything pre dynastic would be Ethiopia Sudan region as the ancient Egyptians clearly claim as their origins.
@Truth prevails "Are Egyptian and Phoenician older nations than Greeks"? If you have to ask that you shouldn't be telling anyone anything
@Truth prevails they influence eachother its not that hard to grasp
@Truth prevails not everything is invented by the Greeks.
Europa - Trachia .Dacia - Pelasgea- Getia.LATIN
F to Carthage
F...S
F or P, depending on the era. The Punic language underwent spirantization whereby the phoneme p > f.
In Libya the foundation of the western coast cities have been established by Phoenicians
Mountain Leader Lebanon not lybia
@@cedarcedaro5354 They are known (without dispute among professional anthropologists, and corroboration from Egyptian Pharaohs) to have sailed to what the Egyptians back then called Libia (today's Tunis), with help from Israelite astronomers who are also descendants of the Canaanites (Canaan fell in a civil war near 1,100 B.C.E.; Israel + Phoenicia being the 2 winners).
So true Phoenician were the ancient ancestors of Hanibal the great
@@ghanvedsingh8946 Sure. In Spain we know, since they were both here, Phoenicians and Carthaginians.
@@cedarcedaro5354
Pffff are u ignorant
wow as well inventing the alphabet they seem to also be the reason why purple is associated with royalty
I'm a phoenician long live Lebanon
All the cities sidon tyre and byblos are Lebanese
@@muhammedhoteit4261 انتم لستم كنعانين فهم عرب
Nope, the Israelites (who descend from the same people -- the Canaanites -- and EVEN TODAY share J2-M172 DNA with Druze/other Phoenicians) also used deep purple frome a particular anthropod species for THEIR royalty, and EUROPEAN MEDIEVAL KINGS then spread/emulated that, and everything else they learned in the Torah about Davidic Kingdom, but Euro Kings knew next-to-nothing about Phoenicia using purple or other Phoenician practices, because Europe's "God," Jesus, was a JEW, NOT A PHOENCIAN. :-)
@@ahmadamin8348 rouh entek
@@ahmadamin8348 it's literally called Tyrian purple and comes from murex shells, learn your shit.
tHAT'S MA COUNTRY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!??!?!?!?!
Edit ma country is lebanon
Who speak Hebrew...
i love lebanon habib
@@kennyhuynh248 🇱🇧🇱🇧🇱🇧🇱🇧🇱🇧🇱🇧🇱🇧
اي شي بيضرط 😱
@Patriotic Juhuri lol Phoenicians didn't speak Hebrew, they were descendants of Canaanites sure, but they didn't speak Hebrew. They spoke Phoenician, it literally says that in the video and on the wiki AND in history books.
Doesnt hurt to learn a bit of history🙃
I requested this the last time, thank you so much Epimetheus 💪 I'm feeling whole now
Glad you liked it :D
@@EpimetheusHistory
Thank you
@@EpimetheusHistory this Phoenician is at your service now ; ) 💪
@إسرائيلي ساحق الجراثي العربوية israeli masterrace None of you are Phoenicians so shut up.
@@GODOBER Yes they well are. The people today inhabiting the Levant, North-Africa and East-Africa who call themselves 'Arab' do not descend from the true Gulf Arabs from the south. There are significant differences between the Gulf Arabs and non Gulf Arabs, Gulf Arabs tend to show very high to tremendous frequencies of haplogroup J1, whilst Levantines show significant frequencies of J1, J2, E, R1b and T.
Great video, it is tragic that the history of such great explores who could rival the Greeks has been lost, and that they have disapeared unlike others like the Persians, Greeks and Assyrians.
thanks to the romans who destroyed such knowledge and thanks to the mongols that destroyed the house of wisdom
imagine if none of them destroyed a thing and yet they take it and study it !
we could be now at this moment a tYPE 1 civilization
we have not disappeared the people remain the same, its our land that has been burnt.
@@mrenigma1564Maybe they did not distroy and took it and it got distroyed when rome was falling apart, archeology could still uncover this knowledge in italy
Thanks for linking the Canaanites and Phoenicians plus Carthage for me. Very helpful!
So does this mean that Canaan became Phoenicia? I'm kind of confused about this.
@@gringo3002 The Phoenicians are Canaanites, they are their descendants
@@gringo3002canaan = Phoenician . Geek call him Phoenician...
Phoenicians inhabited Levant
Especially Palestine they were cannantes
There are some Spanish cites that funded by Phoenicians referring to Palestinian cities like cadiz
Lebanese Phoenician & Proud💜🇱🇧
I doesn't really get better than this. What I love about Epimetheus' videos is that they are extremely concise, but filled with enough detail to pique one's interest and point us in the right direction for further research.
Lebanon 🇱🇧❤️
*cries in coastal Syrian*
Srsly y'all all does comments AND Y'ALL FORGETTING ABT PALESTINE. sheesh
mira sandouka I’m mixed of both ;£
All the love for Syria and Palestine ♥️♥️ we should all be one country actually!
@@mirasandouka5910 Israel***
I always did think North Africa and the Levant are oddly simular.
Before levant was the extension of egypt
they look very semilar, probably clustered a thousand times
They're both Eurasian and their languages are from the same language family (Afro-Asiatic).
Also, Ancient Egyptians shared most of their genetics with the Bronze Age and Neolithic Period populations of the Levant.
ISAAC BAKAN...how could north Africa and Levant be similiar? There was NEVER any Lebanese language or culture in Africa. The original phoencians were black and brown prople of those regions as confirmed by Herodotus,GREEKS,the Bible and much more.
From what I can tell, most of North Africa has Berbers indigenous to it. The Arabs there may have come from the Levant.
Im Rwandan and Lebanese :) i'm told Lebanese are descendants of Phoenicians..
yup we are they did a test on some Lebanese people and estimated that almost 95% of us are descendants of them
@@mshaybra3187 I speak 4 languages fluently and always pick up new ones really easily growing up in boston ..maybe that has something to do with it . I know our ancestors were great merchants, traders ,and writers.
@matius bond yes they are
phoencians are Canaannies , Arabs grandfathers
And phonecians and cannanites were descended from arabs
Master negotiators, freedom lovers, good traders...
You are describing the lebanese my friend, long live lebanon!🇱🇧🇱🇧🇱🇧
The canaanites weren’t eradicated, they were invaded and forced into assimilation.
J Lupus yea, Lebanese are descendants of the canaanites.
@Darkseid El Qbayl Libyan-Punic what about modern Samaritans? Aren’t they canaanites too?
Dang it Romans, you got to stop destroying our sources!
They are glory-hoarders.
And then they decided to burn the library of Alexandria down too
But hey at least they weren’t as bad as the mongols with the Baghdad house of wisdom
So sad ;(
Evil cunts that say they burn it or destroy it but secretly it's under the Vatican
They were dancing dabka every time they made a successful transaction.
😂😂😂
إسرائيلي ساحق الجراثي العربوية israeli masterrace The dance is derived from ancient Canaanite dances, only the name is Arabic
إسرائيلي ساحق الجراثي العربوية israeli masterrace okay we get it your a Zionist and you hate all Arabs and your probably want to kill them because of Palestinian sympathy and greater Israel is underway...dude we don’t care you insane supremacist why you gotta ruin the comment section
@@qayn7617 Are you Assyrian? (Looking at your name)
@@arza7985 You are right, funnily enough it's the Phoenicians who started it all :D
My city of safi in the atlantic coast of morocco is said to have been built by the phoenicians who were coming here to trade with the local berbers
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It is a fact. Bless you. No wonder we love our North African Cousins & reject the Arabs around us. Welcome to Lebanon!
@@samray397 you reject us Arabs ? but we came from Phoenicia too , arabic and pheonicians are 70% parallel , we are literally the children of pheonicians, just because we chose the nomad life later doesn't mean we are not semitic
Even the alphabet the Berbers use to write on, looks identical to the Phoenician alphabet.
@@dagob5484 Bullshit. You (J1-M267 DNA) had no contact with Fertile Crescent (both archaeology & genetix prove) from about 35,000 BC till 852 BC's Battle Of Qarqar, and you spoke Southern Semitic (only contact with ETHIOPIANS for those TENS OF THOUSANDS of years...) until 100~300 AD Arabs BEGAN to get literate (LOL, most of the Mediterranean, Hindus/Chinese had more contact w/ Fertile Crescent, a google of "Neolithic Agricultural Rev" and "cup ring marks India Israel" both show -- and thus LITERACY was spread to nearly all of Eurasia before the SLOW Arabs/Ethiopi had ANY writing!!) and so Arabs realized 100~300 A.D. that SOUTHERN Semitic was TOTALLY INCOMPATIBLE with alphabetic writing and CHANGED to what linguists now call "CENTRAL Semitic" because its hallmark feature was to ADOPT (quite THAT late in history!!) most features of the Hebrew (one of the last SURVIVING (as of 100~300 A.D.!!) Semitic ABJD's).
You Culture Vultures (Arabs) are PROVEN OVER AND OVER by archaeologists to STEAL CREDIT for HUNDREDS of things from Persians/Hidus all the way to Israelites/BERBERS/Spaniards/Babylonians/the Kaffe tribe of Africa/Phoenicians (Druze)/Assyrians&Kurds/Egyptian Pharaohs/etc.
Are modern day Lebanese people descendants of Phoenicians?
Yes. A study revealed that Lebanese are 93% related to ancient canaanites.
Wait... the Phoenecians ended up in Senegal? That's highly intriguing... too bad their records are destroyed - I'd love to know what they found there.
Would be so cool if they uncover a Phoenician/Carthaginian library with intact records.
I believe the Carthaginians/Phoenicians used paper to a high degree which makes for a far worse scenario than excavating clay tablets
@@EpimetheusHistory the historical destruction of knowledge never ceases to irritate me. Who knows how much we've lost?
@al-Haifawi Yes. Not modern paper... unfortunately burnt just as quick :(
they found people covered with furs who they called Gorillai (in the Greek text Γόριλλαι).
Not just Senegal, they went all the way south to beyond Cameroon. Look up Hanno the Navigator for details.
Oh, look, they've got a a ton of records about their history? What should we do?
*instantly burn*
I imagine archaeologists really hate the ancient romans and Spanish
It's funny, their present day decendants, or should I say heirs to the region, the Lebanese are still traders and travelers. They are absolutely everywhere. Go to any big city in Africa for example, and there'll be a Lebanese merchant or restaurant
Some of the Arab tribes from Arabia were also traders.
Shakira is part Lebanese
A superb journey in time and knowledge ...Happy to see everything did not go up in smoke, well done!👌
Great material as always. I'm proud to see my name at the end of the videos.
I was reviewing and clicked on this randomly and actually improved my life
Thank you, i liked this a lot. It makes me crazy that there is almost no record of their spectacular contribution to the world mostly it seems because they used paper and left nothing in granite or other hard rock. They invented writing as we know it but didn't back- up their writing with a hard copy. I love those weird Pheenician figurines - i listened to the lecture by Dr. Scott - I have no doubt you know the work. It was great. would like to see more. Thank you for this. I have a Hamata and Squamata tote bag. i am a big fan.
The pheonician language was a sister language to the one spoken in Israel! I am Israeli and can understand many of their names: Carthage- kart hadasht(new city) in Hebrew krach hadasha
Hannibal(has the grace of the god baa'l) in Hebrew hen-baa'l
Hispania- I shfanim(isle of conies) same in Hebrew
Cool.
You are basicly saying that if a person know pheonician language he culd understand hebrew and arabic on basic level?
rasengan Hebrew and aramean languages
@@rasengan4597 no, I'm not saying that. But if you know one semitic language it will help you to learn others. Like Spanish, italian and French.
@@jonathanrotem251I also speak Hebrew and it sucks that there are no more languages like ours in the immediate vicinity. When I hear Arabic, I get similar and even identical words, but usually in a different context or there is a game with words.
Glad 'The Big G' recommended you! Thanks!
Great video, fantastic channel
Top Quality as always! :)
Thank you!
The patron of Tyros and other Phoenician places like the island of Tasos, was Melkart. The temple in his honour in Cádiz (Iberia) was associated to Hercules by the Greek.
Very interesting and informative video. Thank you Subscribed
Over the last few months you've gone to another level, probably the best history channel on YT at this point, please keep at it, always look forward to your videos.
Another great video thanks for uploading.
PROUD TO BE CANANITE/PHOENICIAN!!! 🇱🇧🇱🇧🇱🇧🇱🇧🇱🇧
Arabs
@@jotaro2690 no not arabs. DNA has already proven that Lebanese are the Cannanite/Phoenicians.
@@nadimlawandos6063 yes but the canaanites share the same dna as the arabs
@@jotaro2690 no my friend they don't you are mistaken
@@jotaro2690 and you can ask any genetic laboratory they will tell you the same
More like big thanks to you for making awesome videos!
So proud to be native to this region.
@@arza7985 modern levant has arab culture. The only thing you **might** share with canaanites or phoenicians is mabye dna
@@arza7985 im not trying to arabize you i am not even arab, i am kurdish.
Proud of what the ground???
Some how Phoenicia makes me remember Portugal.
Absolutely! They were the 1st settlers in Burtoukal! They started the 1st port & shipbuilding in Porto!
@Fatin Marwat The Greeks know that they are an offshoot of the Phoenicians as well.
Google "Almendres oldest megaliths in Europe" then google "cup ring marks Israel India Canaan": Israel, their fellow Canaanites, were the astronomers (navigators) whereas Phoenicia specialty was building the boats, thus these 2 tribes (winners of Canaanite civil wars of ~1,200 BC, the Bronze Age Collapse) needed each other. Torah mentions Cadiz as a city called "Gadis" with a TIN MINE inland of there called TARSHISH (archaeologists identified a tin mine inland of Cadiz called TARTESSOS by the native Celts). Cadiz is confirmed to have CANAANITE (Bronze Age, when today's Lebanon+Israel were united) megaliths.
In that Logic, Carthage is Brazil!
@@SamucaGamer100 Most likely
I love these videos about all of these ancient civilizations, anything past Justinian bores me (except the mongols and the Byzantines) so the older the better!
Da funk you said about Justinian?
@@Arkhamist1 That anything AFTER him is boring.
I disagree, Basil II is bae.
There some good stuff past Justin...chck Rosalia for exmple, she's the new hot thing.
Anything past Justinian bores you? Sounds like you don't appreciate South Asian and East Asian history very much, then, because medieval India and China had large prosperous empires, like the Chola dynasty of southern India that conquered much of Southeast Asia, or the Tang dynasty of China that invaded northern Korea, retained northern Vietnam, conquered much of southern Mongolia and eastern Central Asia, and fought the Tibetan Empire.
Eric Connor I’ve tried to get into eastern history and mythology but once you past Mesopotamia I just lose interest.
I talked about their colonies in Spain, they probably founded Cádiz!
They certainly founded Cádiz, there's no doubt about it. Same for Málaga, Almería, Cartagena, etc.
@إسرائيلي ساحق الجراثي العربوية israeli masterrace - I'm not replying to anyone with that Zionazi nickname.
They set up colonies in Spain but didn't come to conquer like the Romans. They hired Iberian and Celtiberian warriors as mercenaries and traded with them. Same as the Greeks.
Then came the Romans... ua-cam.com/video/itlWI8Y9-kg/v-deo.html
@@edstar83 - They did conquer much like the Romans. Are you even vaguely familiar with the expansion of Carthage in Iberia under the Barcas. In few decades they subjugated half of the peninsula. Earlier Gadir had (per their own account) destroyed the famed city of Tartessos, too independent for their taste.
Thanks for the video. Books and references would aid learning.
I would really love if you could do a video abut the Arameans
The recommendations in my sidebar are so awful. I think because you wrote the word "alphabet" in your video, it's recommending me all these "know your ABC's" children's videos. Amazing how bad that algorithm is. Great vid. Did you know the Phoenicians possibly had an outpost off the shores of Maine?
You have made a Great Channel! Keep up your best efforts :) 👍
Apparently they (carthage) were the first to sail along the west african coast trading Things for gold of the coast of west africa
What I have heard or read before is that their boats were built like Ikea furniture, and the Romans figured it out and ended up copying it and making it better. I'm sure they live on in most of the people of the region as they were absorbed into the empires surrounding
The alpha-beta, navigational instruments, shipbuilding, currency, mining, philigram gold, textiles, dyes, ceramic, jewellery, papyrus, printing, construction, are but a few of our contributions to world civilzation. Thank you for your brief documentary, succinct & precise, focusing on the Alphabet.
Took me till now to understand how great the name Epimetheus is for a history channel.
We (PHONICIAN ) are still alive , NOW WE ARE CALLED CHRISTIAN LEBANESE.
True but there are also some muslim phoenician lebanese
Christians in Lebanon are of Shiite origin who converted to Christianity
@@hrml_warrior9038 where did that nonsense come from😅😂. That's not true lol.
@@ShiverZZZ666
Islamic history is fake and Islam resulted from a church schism
The struggle against the Shiites is an ethnic conflict, but it is hidden
Because the Shiites are the owners of the land
@@ShiverZZZ666.The Sunni sect arose after the Turko-Mongol invasion. It is a mixture of Jewish and Buddhist mysticism and Sabean lunar Islam. The first Abbasid state is the same as the Sassanid state and Islam stole the achievements of Iraq and the ancient Shiites Attributed to the Abbasids
Brazilian here. my great grandfathers were of syrian origin. Proud to be phoenician! lol 😂
no hate to syria but phoenicia is lebanon right now not syria
Make the Middle East great again!
@Demy Troy
For most of the world history.
I think some Lebanese still refer to themselves as Phoenicians. Awesome video dude!
Yea while studying history in school we refer to ourselves as phoenicians😄
It's not a matter of "still". It's a recent thing. Re-discovery of identity after being carried away by a wave of ethno-narcissism and nationalism inspired from the West and by Zionism. Which competes with Pan-Arabism. All those conflicts are generated by the fact that suddenly after the Ottoman Empire collapsed, people could no longer figure out what to identify as in the Middle East, as suddenly nationalism became popular whereas the Middle East has long lost its language-based, ethnocentric divisions and became divided by a monotheistic religions. Like sure, I am not denying Lebanese are genetically proven to descend first and foremost from Phoenicians but anyways this is an exonym that Canaanites never used, and it kind of betrays the traditional identity which is based on the city of origin. Levantine culture of Lebanon is mostly relatively new (no offence to Lebanese people), with most food dishes only being like 300 years old. But through the dialects, the folklore and the religious practices. I personally got to know quite a few Lebanese Phoenicianist and we even managed to trace back some recipes to traditional Phoenician wine etc. mentioned in the bible. Or vocabulary. We found a lot, and I mean a lot.. 100's of words which exist only in Hebrew and in Lebanese Arabic and in no other dialect.
But what's the point of it? Phoenicianism mostly has a Christian Maronite support base, and most Muslim or Druze Lebanese (or even Greek Orthodox) struggle to relate to an ideology which is used to alienate them and see them as enemies from inside.
And it's an anachronism, like, you'd struggle to find any person identifying as Canaanite in Middle Ages Lebanon. Simply did not exist. By Late Antiquity they clearly became more pious Christian (and went into conflict against their fellow Canaanite-origin brothers, the Jews, during the early 7th century standoff between the Sassanids and the Byzantines). Just like Jews mostly did not identify as one nation until Zionism came. And naturally Canaanist Zionists also existed, who wanted to scrap religion altogether. But those ideologies are dangerous. They are void of any meaningful continuous cultural connection, and are prone to ending with barbarism. They are weak identities. Nazism allowed such atrocities to be committed because its core theoretical basis of the superiority of the supposed Aryan race was nonsense.
In general religion disintegrated ethnicity (if it ever existed) in the Middle East in accelerating rate since Early Antiquity. The ethnic group Israelite disappeared after the Hasmoneans forcibly converted peoples to Judaism, the ethnic Greek identity became highly confused due to Hellenism, and of course a new identity of Arabian peninsula tribes forged based on: climate change.
The Phoenician alphabet is the same alphabet of early Hebrew and Aramaic. It seems to me, that the Phoenicians were the ones who introduced the alphabet to the Greeks, and but they they did not necessarily invent it.
Good video. 2 problems. Regarding your comment, ugaritic is not a direct ancestor of the Canaanite alphabet, it used a cuneiform script. Second problem, there is no evidence of Hebrews invading the land of Canaan, they were probably a local group that united with others to create Israel, since their language is almost identical to Phoenician.
Well made video, cheers!
Could you do videos on the ancient Jews and these neo hittites?
He has done on Israel look it up.
Modern Israelis are ashkenazi from eastern Europe they have nothing to do with old Jewish semite people !
So go fuck yourself ash Nazi
@zzKaboomz z Those who say they are jews but are not.
Ashkenazi Jews are middle eastern jews mixed with europeans
Your videos save me for exams, thank you!!!!
I wonder why that area is so damn important
The recommendation tab next to my screen is full of the alphabet song, oh well
So today’s Lebanon’s are descended from the phoenicians..
In large part, Yes
Canaanites are the ancestors of the Palestinian, Lebanese, and Syrians who are or were from the coastal Syria. Phoenicians were Canaanite people and didnt call themselves Phoenicians.
@Kostas T Looks like someone didn't do his research on Palestinians.
What about cyprus
@Kostas T you choose on whatever goes with your current political agenda
I always thought that Lebanon and Syria were one people, but now the difference has become clear to me. Thank you
I am tunisian and I'm truly happy to learn about my origins.
One correction I would submit is that while it is true that Phoenicians would have referred to themselves by their city, they did also recognize a collective cultural name: Canaanite. Carthaginian records for example refer to themselves as Kana’anim to distinguish themselves from native peoples.
Chances are they spoke a closely related or maybe same lamguage than the proto hebrees too
Long live lebanon 🇱🇧❤️
Instructive video as always. You need to put the name of the music. I've been searching it for so long😀
First YEET! On another note, thanks for uploading this. I've wanted this topic for a while.
A lot of people water this topic...
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You win UA-cam.
@@SomeGuy1117 darn typo...
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I thought it was a pun. Because the Pheonecians were great sailors.
@@SomeGuy1117 I'm such an idiot...
*SIGH* thanx for the compliment anyways, for my unintentional comedy 👍
great as always, thank you
Really enjoying these ancient history videos
Very nice channel. Cheers 😬
Great Short video, i hope you can make a video on the Qin dystasty and the Irokese.
Standard procedure: open epimetheus video, like, watch
Can you do a video about the philistines?
YES
Moderen day Palestine
The Phoenician alphabet were themselves derived from the Egyptian hieroglyphs, so didn't come from nowhere. But it'strue they are the first alphabet, or at least syllabary, in our western world - syllabary meaning they show the syllable but not every sound. They didn't show the vowels, except a few double as a vowel in some places: those letters for consonants y (7th letter), w (6th), and alaph/aleph (1st) - where the Greek got alpha, and Latin the 'a' letter. You see the aleph letter (on top left) looks like a badly written A fallen on its left side.
So, in a way the Greek, who got their alphabets from these Phoenician ones, were the inventors of 1st actual alphabets. You can see how some of those letteres resemble Latin letetrs, but even more clearly the capital Greek letters, which were the original for Greek, likewise in Latin. Which is derived from the Greek alphabet, there's a video of that in UA-cam. Search 'Origin of Latin letters' or alike.
Purple colour was made from that sea animals yes. The funny thing was, the colour needed urine in its manufacturing process, and it was a difficult colour to get - and thus expensive. So the aristocracy, the nobles who wore it as a sign of wealth, smelled of piss :)
Israel split of Juda, not the other way around. It was the line of King David, of the House of Judah which continued on the throne of Judah, and the state of Israel chose another house. But their house soon collapsed and that Kingdom was riddled with inner power struggle until the Assyrians wiped it out and dispersed the population. Those people disappeared. So those Jewish genes were spread all over what's now Irak, Syria, Turkey, Jordania etc.
i speak hebrew and phoenician words are almost identical its actually scary to hear, we call it Phenitsia
Great video
If you're considering the Phoenicians to be one specific subgroup of the Northwest Semitic peoples (which is the most common and probably most reasonable way to define things) then you can't consider the modern Arabic or Hebrew abjads to be derived from the Phoenician abjad. They're all closely related, and all derive from earlier Canaanite writing systems, but both modern Hebrew and Arabic scripts are from different forms of Aramaic writing, like the cursive Syriac abjad, in the case of Arabic.
الفينيقيين عرب .. هم قالو بانفسهم و منحم سبطيموس العربي حاكم روما و كانو فخورين بعروبتهم
Who are the descendents of the Phoenicians?
مدن الساحل اللبناني و السوري ... أنظر الى الممثل السوري غسان مسعود فهو من مدينة ارواد الفينيقية .. و سكان قرطاج تونس .. و قرطاجنة في أسبانية و القليل جنوب ايطاليا@@glendacooper2100
@@glendacooper2100 و لا تنسى الكثير منهم تلاشى .. حاكم روما سبطيمو الفينيقي و فيثاغورس فينيقي و الملكة اوروبا فينيقية هؤلا صارو فاليونان و ايطاليا
Ethnically and language wise Phoenecians are the closest group to the Jews. It is interesting how the difference in religion set these two nations on a completely different path in history.
BTW, Carthage is Qart Khadasht - new city
Hahahaha, no, the Turks are stupid, they are not like the Semites
hey there thank you for the video .. I'm from Phoenicia im from byblos... this land is so screwed we never had a good day there
Can you make a video about the phoenicina (and canaanite) gods and how it affected the hebrew religion ?
Its a fascinating subject that deserves more attention
yes.
when my second book comes out, ill make sure to explain this topic
One of the greatest people in history. Fun fact: The Maltese language is a direct descendant of the Phoenician/Carthaginian language.
respect from greece!!
Greatest rivals during Antiquity !!
The geography of that area plays a huge rule.
Linear Script A, all the way!
Great job 🙂☺🙂
Lebanon my beloved homeland!
It would be nice if Lebanon used Purple in their Current Flag and used the Latin Alphabet since their Phoenician "ancestors" influenced it (these are just ideas and suppositions, I don't want to sound arrogant or anything like that)
so the lebanese people basically
Palestinian I am the Phoenicians are us and Lebanese and Syrians too. 🇵🇸🇱🇧🇸🇾🙏 phoenicia.
This was amazing !
🇱🇧proud by the way you can know much about them here by visiting musume or their old capital Byblos and so on ....
A big thanks to these people who helped to change the human civilisation and later to Greeks
That is amazing that they created the alphabet.
They actually created an abjad, i.e. an alphabet in which most vowels are not written, much like modern Arabic and Hebrew scripts. The first true alphabet is the Greek one but it's based on the Phoenician abjad.
Well okay I understand that you are interested in history and you try to find subscribers from history based channels by commenting every video. But you sound like a someone who lives in a trailer park, just learnt the civilization and gets amazed from everything.
@إسرائيلي ساحق الجراثي العربوية israeli masterrace Were the Greeks Hebrews too?
@A Kind and Caring Dame - What? I thought you were going to say "from the Ugaritian cuneiform abjad", to which I would have replied that Ugaritian is stil considered Canaanite, as the Phoenicians themselves... but the Sinai? You are talking about something that is totally unknown to me and to most historians quite apparently. I suspect fiasco but feel free to document your exceptional claim exceptionally well.
@A Kind and Caring Dame - So what happened to "Sinai"?
Whether Ugaritic was Canaanite or not is not an issue I feel able to debate. It's not generally considered too important because in any case it was the Phoenicians who are the link between Ugaritic abjad and the rest of abjads and alphabets. "For dummies" saying "the Phoenicians invented the alphabet" is good enough, most people have no idea about Ugarit and even those who know don't know enough to set it clearly in or out of the Phoenician or Canaanite ethno-cultural area, most likely the answer is they were related but not identical, as happens often, but still related enough for the simplification of including Ugarit into Phoenician/Canaanite not being abhorrent at all.