Rise and Fall of the Seleucid Empire (Who were the Seleucids?)

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  • History of the Seleucid Empire
    From Alexander the Great, and the empire's foundation by Seleucus till the empire's annexation by ancient Roman Empire.
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  • @arianrezaie4729
    @arianrezaie4729 3 роки тому +1992

    Nobody:
    Seleucids: one more civilwar for old times sake🙏

    • @stevemarshall6515
      @stevemarshall6515 3 роки тому +37

      Lmao I chuckled out loud at this kne

    • @robertsanders7060
      @robertsanders7060 3 роки тому +7

      If only they had fought others instead of each other...

    • @Lycurgus1982
      @Lycurgus1982 3 роки тому +41

      @@robertsanders7060 it was Alexander's biggest mistake to not secure a succession line.

    • @arianrezaie4729
      @arianrezaie4729 3 роки тому +6

      @@Lycurgus1982 well he almost certainly did remember much of what we know about the past has gone trough several layers of propaganda why would anyone what to tell the truth about alexanders succession and also seleukes is under rated he could have fixed every thing why would you think a 30 year old alexander could have done better than this man? He was easly just as capable

    • @Lycurgus1982
      @Lycurgus1982 3 роки тому +1

      @@arianrezaie4729 there was a fair amount of resentment in the army toward Alexander and his exploits in Persia, but most of his kinsmen loved him. For all of Alexander's qualities, he had an equal amount of personal conflicts as well. Choosing to change from first amongst equals to absolute monarch was deeply troubling to the Macedonian elite and as a result, he was blindsided before he could cement his Dynasty. I'm not sure where your coming from making comparisons to Seleukos. These two men were different in many ways.

  • @blaz2892
    @blaz2892 3 роки тому +2216

    When you cant decide whether to play as Greece or Persia

    • @perverse_ince
      @perverse_ince 3 роки тому +94

      @@vadergamerboss6660
      Achaemenids, Parthians and Sassanids All ruled from Babylon/Seleucia/Ctesiphon, which is the same general location.

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 3 роки тому +38

      Vadergamerboss 66 Apamea was a Persian noblewoman. Antiochus I was 50% Persian

    • @catdogman23
      @catdogman23 3 роки тому +4

      LOL!

    • @perverse_ince
      @perverse_ince 3 роки тому +14

      >TheSeleucidsWereNotPersianBecauseTheirCapitalWasNotInPersiaGuy deleted his comments out of embarrassment
      jej

    • @arianrezaie4729
      @arianrezaie4729 3 роки тому +1

      @@cyrusthegreatofpersiairan7569 not really only occasionally

  • @celtofcanaanesurix2245
    @celtofcanaanesurix2245 3 роки тому +1444

    It’s amazing how the Gauls seem to work their way into war with or for every major civilization of antiquity...

    • @AlexanderDiviFilius
      @AlexanderDiviFilius 3 роки тому +291

      It makes Caesar's swift conquest of them all the more impressive, in my books. People often underestimate them, forgetting how much of a genius Caesar was in comparison to literally everyone.

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 3 роки тому +74

      Celt of Canaan Esurix Gauls were in the grand armee of Antiochus III and fought in Afghanistan and Pakistan

    • @MrSafior
      @MrSafior 3 роки тому +39

      @@ChevyChase301 Source?
      Anyways I wonder how far the gauls would have go if Seleucos didn't stop them.
      Maybe they would have India or even China!

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 3 роки тому +38

      @@MrSafior the Gauls were Seleucid auxiliaries and are recorded in Iran in addition to Persian and cretan. The Seleucid army did not garrison any regions and did not take many loses in Antiochus Anabasis. Logically they would have accompanied anitiochus into Bactria and India but it is not recorded. it is likely Antiochus army was at full strength when entering parapomisadea because the Indian ruler submitted without a fight. The Gauls were definitely not strong enough to mutiny during the expedition as it is recorded at 100,000+ men in the army of mostly greeks

    • @MrSafior
      @MrSafior 3 роки тому +5

      @@ChevyChase301 Do you have source or link to to this record ?

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 3 роки тому +717

    "Then the Romans came in and put an end to all the silliness." What a burn at the end!

    • @user-kt1st4uu9x
      @user-kt1st4uu9x 3 роки тому +8

      i know you from some other video...

    • @DoReMi123acb
      @DoReMi123acb 3 роки тому +8

      Can't deny that truth. As a pure and highly credible Roman scholar called Dovahaty says "The absolute shit flinging mess that was Greek politics at the time"

    • @mustardstang573
      @mustardstang573 3 роки тому +1

      a fellow fan of dova i ser here

    • @anasty_arisaka754
      @anasty_arisaka754 3 роки тому

      Yeah, same as Mexico...

    • @trajananevski6280
      @trajananevski6280 3 роки тому

      Antioc Alexandria Pela. United. In Rome.

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 3 роки тому +805

    One of the most *underrated* Empires on the history truly deserved to be covered and uploaded by the Epimetheus!

  • @deuratusanimatedhistory10
    @deuratusanimatedhistory10 3 роки тому +627

    During the Babylonian wars (311-309 BC) when Seleucus was facing Antigonus, the evening put an end to the undecided action; and both armies retreated to their respective camps with intend to renew the conflict the next day. The soldiers of Antigonus put off their arms, and relaxed in their tents. But Seleucus ordered his men to eat, and sleep in their arms, and lie down in order of battle: that they might be ready for action, whenever the charge was sounded. The next day, at break of dawn, the army of Seleucus rose up, already armed and in order, and immediately advanced against the enemy camp. Finding antigonid troops unarmed and disordered, Seleucus gained a swift victory.
    This is my favourite strategem from book 4 of Polyaenus. (it's essencially Polyaenus 4.9.1, edited slightly by me)

    • @deuratusanimatedhistory10
      @deuratusanimatedhistory10 3 роки тому +24

      @Zen Tao Demetrius Poliorcetes, not because of his tactics or victories (sometimes he was succesful sometimes he was not) but I admire him for his conduct with his enemies as well as for his restless ambitions. He was constantly at war with all kings (except Agathocles) and was constantly campaigning with no rest. For that, he is my favourite man in history

    • @Lycurgus1982
      @Lycurgus1982 3 роки тому +8

      This was the famous attack against Peithon's army from the east. It was less than three to one odds. What Seleukos did against Antgonus in the west is even more impressive and took some serious stones.

    • @deuratusanimatedhistory10
      @deuratusanimatedhistory10 3 роки тому +10

      @@Lycurgus1982 You are confusing the events, Peithon son of Crateuas (executed 315 BC) and Peithon son of Agenor (killed in action 312 BC) were both dead by the time of Babylonian wars. (another Peithon son of Sosicles died circa 328 BC). I suppose by "famous attack against Peithon" you mean coalition of satraps from the Upper Satrapies (Peucestas, Sibyrtius, Eudamus the Greek and others) against Peithon son of Crateuas and his brother Eudamus but that was before before 318 BC and Seleucus took no part in it, only later gave refuge to Peithon when he was defeated.

    • @deuratusanimatedhistory10
      @deuratusanimatedhistory10 3 роки тому

      I checked the coalition from Upper satrapies in Anson 2014 just now. It consisted of: Peucestas, the satrap of Persis, Tlepolemus, the satrap of Carmania, Sibyrtius, satrap of Arachosia, Androbazus, general for Oxyartes, Stasander, the satrap of Areia and Drangiana, Eudamus from India and Amphimachus, the satrap of Mesopotamia.

    • @deuratusanimatedhistory10
      @deuratusanimatedhistory10 3 роки тому +2

      @Il Bugiardo dell'Umbria If you have no experience with the period nor ancient historians, then it's probably best to start with reading popular history books.
      There is only one book which deals with the whole period of Diadochi wars, it's "Dividing the spoils", and since it covers a large span of time: it sucks as it can be expected. I have read it 2 years ago and I was so dissapointed, it ommits like 90% of history and gives you only the most basic info. It's not even well written. I highly discoruage reading it.
      However there is a book "Ghost on the Throne" by James Romm that covers period 323-316/315 BC (W. Heckel/E. Anson dating) + the Athenian politics 324-318 BC + little throwback to the times of Alexander campaigns. Since it covers smaller part of history: it is quite detailed. James Romm is a fantastic writer. Writing style 10/10, historical content 8/10. You will get a great introduction to main events, you will get very familiar with generals and some higher ranking officers. But obviously it ommits smaller events and less important officers. But after this book you can confidently start reading ancient sources and have a clear idea what is going on.
      The rest of the books I know are not popular history, they are ment to be read when you have a good idea of the period and you are familair with ancient sources.
      You can also read ancient sources directly. Wars of Diadochi has few sources so there is not that much to read. The core is diodorus Siculus books:18,19 and 20 (18th book is almost entirely dedicated to Diadochi, 19th less diadochi, 20th much less diadochi). Plutarch is the biggest secondary source, rest is scattered over multiple smaller sources (some attractive, like surviving fragments of Arrian:Successors or Memnon of Heracleia; some unattractive: like Strabo or Pausanias).
      These ancient historians are public domain, so you can read it online, absolutely for free.
      That's my favourite period of history, if you chose to read ancient sources, I can guide you through it (saying what to read), if you want you can add me on discord: Alcetas#6256

  • @georgekosto2737
    @georgekosto2737 3 роки тому +197

    i am Greek living in Athens, my grandmother is from Seleucia Isauria and this video fashinating me!!

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  3 роки тому +42

      That is a very interesting region of Turkey. I am am glad you like the video :)

    • @mka8869
      @mka8869 3 роки тому +6

      U know Chandragupta

    • @saeedvazirian
      @saeedvazirian 3 роки тому

      You're Persianised. As usual, Persian influence will never escape you. Never.

    • @juanlamban3715
      @juanlamban3715 3 роки тому +8

      @@saeedvazirian you make it sound like it is a bad thing.

    • @ComradeHellas
      @ComradeHellas 3 роки тому +13

      @@saeedvazirian Persian influence is insignificant compared to Greek, Latin, Hindu and Mandarin.

  • @BiakSkull
    @BiakSkull 3 роки тому +301

    "The reanimated corpse of the kingdom was revived, so they decided to have one last civil war" jesus christ this is halarious

    • @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014
      @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 3 роки тому +18

      Imagine the state revived for three years instead of 3 days

    • @deBebbler
      @deBebbler 2 роки тому +20

      Yeah, that was unexpected and drew some laughs. The "Seleucid Zombie State" label was a nice touch, too.

  • @SarudeDanstorm
    @SarudeDanstorm 3 роки тому +401

    It kind of amazes me how everyone knows about Alexander The Great, but virtually nothing of what happened in the 200-300 years before the rise of Rome, as if his Empire didn't actually live on or anything.

    • @bamtoday
      @bamtoday 3 роки тому +16

      Check out The Storm Before The Storm by Michael Duncan.

    • @Hashishin13
      @Hashishin13 3 роки тому +49

      Or how Rome is basically taught as a self made empire and not a force that mostly mopped up some older empires that had fallen.

    • @roberttaylor8906
      @roberttaylor8906 3 роки тому +36

      @@Hashishin13 i think the idea is that while they did take a lot from other cultures, namely Greece, Rome's unified, systematic and bureaucratic organizational approach allowed for an almost industrial uniformity and standard of quality when it came to things like their military and engineering feats. While the engineering feats of the Romans, to my knowledge, don't really stack up to ancient works like the great Pyramid, the expansive Roman networks of roads and aqueducts show what their more unified, industrious approach was able to achieve when compared to the fractured nature of the Greek city-states.

    • @pablosturm6640
      @pablosturm6640 3 роки тому +12

      @@Hashishin13 lol rome was successful because they had a very efficient slave system. The roman empire was built on the backs of gallic, greek, german, iberian and african slaves. Granted, most other civilizations also used slaves but the romans did so on an industrial scale.

    • @DNC_Patrik
      @DNC_Patrik 3 роки тому

      Well, it fell apart pretty fast

  • @petersantos6395
    @petersantos6395 3 роки тому +1146

    Romans: look at those silly kingdoms in the east with their civil wars, surely we won't be like them

    • @AlexanderDiviFilius
      @AlexanderDiviFilius 3 роки тому +178

      Every remotely ambitious general from the second century BC onwards:
      "I'm gonna do a pro-gamer move"

    • @sushanalone
      @sushanalone 3 роки тому +35

      @ Peter Santos
      .....

    • @asfm2
      @asfm2 3 роки тому +69

      *The disembodied voice of Diocletian crying out from beyond time and space*

    • @Crafty_Spirit
      @Crafty_Spirit 3 роки тому +5

      @@asfm2 Now D was the size of a top tier Diadocchus

    • @pipebomber04
      @pipebomber04 3 роки тому +22

      Proceeds to have civil war every month.

  • @MK-dg8gr
    @MK-dg8gr 3 роки тому +128

    Ahh Seleucids. Has mix of best units in RTW (Armoured Elephants, Cataphrats, Chariots, Companion Cavalry, Legionaries, Silver Shield Pikeman) yet always one of first to get destroyed.

    • @emptank
      @emptank 3 роки тому +26

      All of them late game and you start with half your empire made of first tier cities two which can only train peasants. The parthians and Armenians will come at you in the east with horse archers perfectly suited to pick a part your pike men, Greek cities and Pontus in the west, and Egypt in the south. Lose Antioch and it's all but game over. Little wonder the AI can't handle it. Survive though and you might be one of the few factions that can take post reform Romans in a straight fight.

    • @masoudkhosravi2822
      @masoudkhosravi2822 3 роки тому +1

      helenic lie and bloff history.selusid was not cataphract.they are use helenic war style.but parthians was catapharact cavalry(original knight)and kick ass selucids .

    • @masoudkhosravi2822
      @masoudkhosravi2822 3 роки тому

      I suggest you read this books parhtian and sasanids rom enemis by peter vilcox.and sasanian elite cavalry by kaveh farrokh

    • @masoudkhosravi2822
      @masoudkhosravi2822 3 роки тому +1

      @Nomad, O Cavaleiro you are wrong catapharact was mean havy cavalry armor.and Persian was first people in world use them

    • @ImperialGuard322nd
      @ImperialGuard322nd 3 роки тому +13

      @@masoudkhosravi2822 you do know they are talking about a video game called Rome: Total War (RTW), right?

  • @timothycook8334
    @timothycook8334 3 роки тому +150

    The Seleucids always looked like they were trying really really hard to stretch all the way from the Aegean to the Indus and they could only barely do it but it was an inspiring effort.

  • @bradm.c.9569
    @bradm.c.9569 3 роки тому +88

    Probably the most effective use of war elephants outside of India.

    • @loowick4074
      @loowick4074 10 місяців тому +2

      Heard a story where an Indian elephant nabbed an enemy king before dumping him at the feet of his own army.
      The enemy king was then beheaded.

  • @kriosatimoss6562
    @kriosatimoss6562 3 роки тому +116

    Great video man. Only thing I'd add is a mention of Antiochus VII Euergetes, one of the most tragic rulers in history. Antiochus was a gifted General, and by all accounts a pretty good guy. He restored huge swathes of territory to the empire during his reign, and had the Parthians on the ropes. He probably could have beaten them too, had he not fallen for a trap that saw him killed in battle. He's one of my favorite historical characters to think "what if" about, and the last Seleucid monarch worthy of the name of his forebear.

    • @christopherhardy8808
      @christopherhardy8808 Рік тому +5

      His defeat obliterated the last Seleukid army. It was this that marks his reign as a tragic failure. Up until then, Syria was able to produce on its own an army of around 60,000 men, but his defeat was so catastrophic that the Syrian population was stunted for a few generations. It was only until Philip I that Syria had a few years to breathe before Tigranes invaded in 75/74

  • @miguelmontenegro3520
    @miguelmontenegro3520 3 роки тому +58

    Alex: Finally i can relax.
    Death: Nope

  • @micahclark3606
    @micahclark3606 3 роки тому +24

    Adding Seleucus to the list of historical people we could be having television about right now.

  • @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr
    @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr 3 роки тому +160

    Badly want to see a movie based on the battle between the Mauryans and the Seleucids!

    • @angusyang5917
      @angusyang5917 3 роки тому +3

      Isn't there an Bollywood show on this?

    • @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr
      @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr 3 роки тому +23

      @@angusyang5917 no idea, Bollywood is dead BTW!

    • @aromanlegionnair5096
      @aromanlegionnair5096 3 роки тому +4

      @@DurgeshYadav-ip1zr Really? Aww :( I liked some of their movies, mostly of their special effects 😂 comedy gold!

    • @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr
      @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr 3 роки тому +17

      @@aromanlegionnair5096 there are a lot of good Bollywood movies but lately they just haven't been up to the mark.

    • @Noone-gz8li
      @Noone-gz8li 3 роки тому +1

      @@aromanlegionnair5096 u can watch bajirao mastani

  • @TheLoyalOfficer
    @TheLoyalOfficer 3 роки тому +504

    Seleucus was a visionary but his empire had bad borders.

    • @orlandogreenhow2870
      @orlandogreenhow2870 3 роки тому +60

      TheLoyalOfficer Definitely the worst borders of the Diadochi

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 3 роки тому +50

      DingoBling check out empire of Antigonus II. Literally just a bunch of coasts and islands

    • @TheLoyalOfficer
      @TheLoyalOfficer 3 роки тому +6

      @@ChevyChase301 Well sure, he sucked too.

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 3 роки тому +17

      TheLoyalOfficer Demetrius after Ipsus only had Boetia, Peloponnesus, Cyclades, Ionia, Cyprus and Tyre literally the most disgusting thing.

    • @TheLoyalOfficer
      @TheLoyalOfficer 3 роки тому +3

      @@ChevyChase301 LOL, yes, I hear ya. I'm not saying you're wrong. My comment was about the Seleucid Empire, though.

  • @senselessmacabre7870
    @senselessmacabre7870 3 роки тому +26

    00:45 Love how you casually put mark of chaos

  • @SeleucidArgyraspide
    @SeleucidArgyraspide 3 роки тому +22

    Iv been fascinated with the Seleucid Empire for a long time, but iv not been able to get much info on them. So im glad you made this video explaining the timeline in more detail.

    • @theodorospadelidis6537
      @theodorospadelidis6537 2 роки тому

      i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account

    • @apresmidi153
      @apresmidi153 9 місяців тому

      There's a biography of Antiochus III that has a lot of good info in it and covers a lot of the events of this video.

  • @dankaxon4230
    @dankaxon4230 3 роки тому +58

    6:49 crusader kings 3 moment

  • @LuisAldamiz
    @LuisAldamiz 3 роки тому +72

    Awesome documentary! I'd say "as always" but I'd lie: it's even better. TY.

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  3 роки тому +7

      Glad you liked it Luis :D

    • @arthasmenethil7208
      @arthasmenethil7208 3 роки тому +5

      @@EpimetheusHistory adding jokes inbetween your narration like oversimplified or historia civilis really adds up to the quality of the video.Keep up the great work!

    • @shashwatsinha2704
      @shashwatsinha2704 3 роки тому +1

      I thought your portrait was stalin. Then I looked closely. Who is it?

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 3 роки тому +1

      @@shashwatsinha2704 - Myself some years ago.

    • @shashwatsinha2704
      @shashwatsinha2704 3 роки тому +1

      @@LuisAldamiz Oh, great. You genuinely look like a businessman-philospher.

  • @Vulcaani
    @Vulcaani 3 роки тому +15

    I enjoy Seleucid empire immensely for some reason! Thank you very much, this was great!

  • @alexburke4569
    @alexburke4569 3 роки тому +21

    I absolutely love this channel. I wish you could cover the Bronze Age more but I understand there is only so much to cover. Anyways amazing work thank you!!!

  • @Alex-mn1fb
    @Alex-mn1fb 3 роки тому +29

    Loved this one... I love Ancient History but in the recent years the Hellenistic Era really started to fascinate me. All these great men and women, proclaiming themselves gods on earth, commanding armies and empires, ultimately for nothing, as their world ended up divided between Romans and Parthians. Culturally, however, it was the setting stage for our modern world. Science, philosophy, art, even religion, as both Judaism and Christianity, all of them shaped in that melting pot of chaos :)

    • @Alex-mn1fb
      @Alex-mn1fb 2 роки тому

      @Red SITH what's your point?

    • @Alex-mn1fb
      @Alex-mn1fb 2 роки тому +1

      @Red SITH Good one, except that the greatest centers of Jewish diaspora and early Christian thought were thoroughly Hellenized centers like Alexandria and Antioch, in fact Septuagint was translated to Greek during the Ptolemies, and despite the great conflicts between Hellenized Jews and the Orthodox ones, and the unsuccessful and violent attempts at Hellenization, the Jews were thoroughly immersed in the Hellenistic culture of the age, both during the actual Hellenistic and later Roman era. The Greek influence was felt long after their political power failed, thats why it is still important. Theirs was a secondary language in the Roman empire, it was even used by the Parthians long after the Seleucids, also in Bactria and Northwest India. it was the language of science, their conventions of architecture were influential for the entire Mediterranean world AND the east. Look at the ruins of Palmyra or Petra, with clearly Greek columns, long after the last Greek kingdoms fell.. And I'm not even going to joke about the influence of Greek on Christianity. From the first Bibles being in Greek, first Christian communities being Greek, to the neoplatonists looking for inspiration in works Plato , to the art and architecture of Byzantine empire. As I said, both religions had their development in the melting pot that was the Hellenistic age. Christianity had its roots directly, while Jewish history was definitely shaped by it to a great degree.

    • @Alex-mn1fb
      @Alex-mn1fb 2 роки тому

      @Red SITH Lol what are you talking about? :D I did not say that Hellenization or Hellenistic RELIGIONS influenced them I said they were built or changed, influenced and shaped by the Hellenistic AGE in which they existed. Read about the Jewish Hanukkah and how its origins are strictly tied to the political landscape of the age. The Jewish national and religious identity was forged by the Ptolemaic and Seleucid attempts to conquer and control their lands, the day to day politics of that age shaped the religion as we know it today. And the earliest communities of Christians were also Greek, most of cities mentioned by the Bible that are not in the Holy Land are Greek and Hellenised cities like Ephesus, Thessaloniki and Corinth and many others. And Greek being one of the first languages of the Bible.

  • @benhayward2597
    @benhayward2597 3 роки тому +21

    One of the periods I've always wanted to know about, thanks!

  • @lukezuzga6460
    @lukezuzga6460 3 роки тому +5

    Great job EP, one of my favorites videos that has come along in awhile! Great artwork and perfect History!

  • @leopoldopetrieska6564
    @leopoldopetrieska6564 3 роки тому +5

    fascinating video. love how it cover the kinda blind spot between alexander's conquest and roman dominance in the near est and persia.
    looking forward to more of this type of content, is really needed.

  • @andrewmartin9379
    @andrewmartin9379 3 роки тому +17

    Gotta love ancient history that intersects both Alexander and Rome.
    P.S. your style seems to be getting more recognizable and enjoyable to watch if you catch my drift. Great stuff. Keep goin.

  • @omarbradley6807
    @omarbradley6807 3 роки тому +7

    Finally. A video of the Seleucids who cover Seleucus's reign after Ipsus, like when he conquer european lands. Great job and video

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 3 роки тому +1

      severely understudied as coins minted during his European conquest were found as far as Romania meaning he had firm control for a short time

  • @samuelseabrook2891
    @samuelseabrook2891 3 роки тому +2

    always such amazing content, please keep up the good work and keep digging for more interesting historical settings!

  • @brazy8427
    @brazy8427 3 роки тому +5

    This channel simply does not miss. It would be cool to learn about the other successor kingdoms as well.

  • @jason4275
    @jason4275 3 роки тому +23

    Seleucids Now that's a guy you would want to go back in time and watch his entire life.

  • @totalwartimelapses6359
    @totalwartimelapses6359 3 роки тому +19

    6:46 "what are you doing step-son?"
    Brought to you by Brazzers

  • @SpencerSmith-rz8pm
    @SpencerSmith-rz8pm 2 роки тому

    You continue to both engage and learn me something good. Thanks for all you do. This one really fills in the gaps of history I've always wanted to know about.

  • @suicidal1176
    @suicidal1176 3 роки тому +3

    Indo-Greeks were mostly Hindu-Buddhists and Zoroastrians. One of the golden age of Asia. Yes there was marriage between Selucus daughter and Emperor Chandragupta Maurya of Magadh(modern day Bihar).

  • @gw7120
    @gw7120 3 роки тому +79

    How Charismatic Alexander had to be to control these guys , because they all wanted to kill each other , he would have been disappointed with them all , they could have had so much more , alternate history time.

    • @12345adambomb
      @12345adambomb 3 роки тому +26

      He couldn't have been that disappointed when they asked him on his deathbed who the empire should go to he said "the strongest"

    • @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014
      @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 3 роки тому +3

      Even after the Diadochi they could have said: « Look, we are Greek Kings controlling ancient lands, why we don’t work together and accomplish Alexander s’invasion programs? »

    • @tuele4302
      @tuele4302 3 роки тому +2

      @@12345adambomb Assuming that story is true, the context is missing. What did Alexander mean by that? How would such a person be selected?

    • @12345adambomb
      @12345adambomb 3 роки тому +7

      @@tuele4302 its probably a mistranslation/ legend to enforce the legitimacy of the successors. What Alexander actually said was "Hoti to kratisto" so some people think they just misheard him and he was trying to say the empire goes to Cassander his lifelong friend and general. But it's way to good of a legend to not repeat.

    • @12345adambomb
      @12345adambomb 3 роки тому +9

      @@tuele4302 alternatively if he really did mean to say "to the strongest" he was probably just bitter he didn't get to rule over his great empire. An "if I can't have it no one can" situation.

  • @davidsending
    @davidsending 3 роки тому +2

    Happy to see another video from you! Thank

  • @issith7340
    @issith7340 3 роки тому +6

    Wow!! I’m greek and i still didn’t know exactly what happened there. You compressed them perfectly, without loosing the flow. Cause it’s a very complicated period!!

  • @DCM68W
    @DCM68W 3 роки тому +4

    a very informative, well edited, and drily humorous overview

  • @setflavius8049
    @setflavius8049 3 роки тому +1

    Been waiting for this one for a long time. Very nice

  • @cooolbigguy
    @cooolbigguy 3 роки тому +1

    Great video! Didnt know much about the period between the wars of the diadochi and roman conquest of the region, I'm glad you made this video to fill the gap. Love the humor in it too

  • @christopherhardy8808
    @christopherhardy8808 3 роки тому +33

    YEEEEEESSSSSS!!!! liked before add was over! As implied by my name, I am a Seleucid fanboy

  • @celestialweaver8460
    @celestialweaver8460 3 роки тому +3

    Not many people have done videos on the Suluecids, so it makes me even happier to see your video^_^

  • @gabrielluizdasilva4439
    @gabrielluizdasilva4439 3 роки тому +2

    Great content ! Simple and objective on the explanation !

  • @pankratoshellas183
    @pankratoshellas183 3 роки тому +3

    I am so glad that Epimetheus showed the Mosaic of Alexander!!!... thank you for doing that!!! 👍🇬🇷👍

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  3 роки тому +1

      I believe that the Mosaic of Alexander is the most accurate depiction of him :)

  • @R3GARnator
    @R3GARnator 3 роки тому +29

    This was a lot easier to understand than Kings and Generals Diodochi Wars series.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall 3 роки тому +31

      I think that's because this channel has a higher level view, focusing on the big picture. While K&G dives deeper into battles and moments in time.

  • @Seruvius
    @Seruvius 3 роки тому +33

    For anyone else confused about the helmet, it is apparently a dashing combination of leopard skin and the horns and ears of a bull.
    Why that particular getup you ask? Allow me to quote in detail: "The obverse of this tetradrachm [a silver coin] bears an image of the deified Alexander the Great. He wears a helmet covered with leopard skin and adorned with a bull’s horns and ear. All of these are attributes of Dionysus, the god of wine but also of eternal life, who rode about on a leopard and could transform himself into a bull. According to myth, Dionysus conquered India through his mysterious power; thus Alexander, who conquered parts of India by force of arms, could be seen as a second Dionysus. The coin type is yet more complex, because the issuer of this coin, Seleucus I, had repeated Alexander’s exploit of campaigning in western India. Thus he could claim to be a third Dionysus and a second Alexander, and this is undoubtedly implied by the heroic image."

    • @istvansipos9940
      @istvansipos9940 3 роки тому +1

      - here, great king. for these reasons, you need such a helmet. it will serve your political ambitions perfectly.
      - yes........... But it still looks ridiculous... Oh, F it!

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc 3 роки тому

      thanks

  • @Noobfantasy
    @Noobfantasy 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing work.Thanks Epimetheus

  • @rmpj13
    @rmpj13 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent synopsis, great information, very entertaining, subscriber earned.

  • @AncientHistoryGuy
    @AncientHistoryGuy 3 роки тому +16

    My favorite successor kingdom! Also, the subject of my most viewed video on my channel haha! Love the artwork as usual mate!

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  3 роки тому +5

      Mine too! Old one eye and his son is probably my second favorite.

    • @AncientHistoryGuy
      @AncientHistoryGuy 3 роки тому +2

      @@EpimetheusHistory Mine too!

    • @Crafty_Spirit
      @Crafty_Spirit 3 роки тому +1

      Eumenes will probably always remain my favourite... who else defeated Seleucos and Antigonus in battle? Only treason would bring his downfall.

    • @Crafty_Spirit
      @Crafty_Spirit 3 роки тому +4

      But I reckon we all agree on whom to like the least... Cassander 😌

    • @christianenglert1620
      @christianenglert1620 3 роки тому +1

      @@Crafty_Spirit him or Ptolemy Keraunos

  • @andrewbatist6355
    @andrewbatist6355 3 роки тому +141

    "them the romans told them to leave egypt alone. so he did."

    • @andrewbatist6355
      @andrewbatist6355 3 роки тому +6

      @Zen Tao i would pay to see this alternate timeline. i wonder who the mongols would fight in this region some day

    • @andrewbatist6355
      @andrewbatist6355 3 роки тому

      @Zen Tao could you explain your theory on how christian cruzaders would made to southeast asia ?

    • @andrewbatist6355
      @andrewbatist6355 3 роки тому

      @Zen Tao yes ! i absolutely agree with you. christian feudal middle easteners would be occupying mesopotamia and the surroundings down into the middle ages until the mongols crush their positions there. i was only confused about the :" and maybe fight crusaders in australia and indonesia "

    • @andrewbatist6355
      @andrewbatist6355 3 роки тому

      @Zen Tao well. the cruzaders where so much more distant. not like that would be a problem for experienced knights, i mean look how further north the teutonics went. but the cruzaders had many hadaches arround canaã and spain to care about that distant arquipelago until the age of navigation. anyhow i loved your theory.. imagine if zeng he´s fleet was not burned in this timeline too. the landscape of the whole middle east would be very curious.

    • @andrewbatist6355
      @andrewbatist6355 3 роки тому

      @Zen Tao they could. the question for me is they would ? and left eastern europe vunerable to steppe nomads of the north. yes they have fortifications in mesopotamia by now. so possibly a very bold christian leader may had insisted on leading troops to indonesia.

  • @BrianelSuperMacho
    @BrianelSuperMacho 3 роки тому +1

    Fun video! Thanks for making it :)

  • @felta4390
    @felta4390 3 роки тому +2

    Discovered your channel a few weeks ago and I'm in love with your content! Very informative on such fascinating topics! I am definitely subbing + notify belling ur channel, keep it up! 💜

  • @Punaeased
    @Punaeased 3 роки тому +4

    This channel is legendary

  • @ShahStark
    @ShahStark 3 роки тому +65

    Romans And Parthians be like: it’s free real estate

  • @Ianassa91
    @Ianassa91 3 роки тому

    I really like your videos. Great drawings, narration, tempo and they are very informative.

  • @Crusaderjack
    @Crusaderjack 3 роки тому

    I know this is an older video, but I recently found this channel and I love it. Really helps get my gears goin when im worldbuilding.

  • @rajbagwe3732
    @rajbagwe3732 3 роки тому +5

    Great art and map. Seleucid Empire is very undercovered. Waiting for more videos. Love from India.

  • @ADrunkBassist
    @ADrunkBassist 3 роки тому +5

    *Gauls* : "RUMBLE!!"
    *Indian War Elephant* : Exists
    *Gauls* : "Fk...."

  • @Theocloud
    @Theocloud 3 роки тому +1

    Great video ! I love your channel btw

  • @michaelpresley2624
    @michaelpresley2624 3 роки тому

    Great video Epimetheus. Would love to see you do a video like this on Ptolemaic Egypt.

  • @zsupersaiyan
    @zsupersaiyan 3 роки тому +3

    Judea was a small region steadily growing in power since the bronze age, and this was their moment of glory. Fascinating

  • @Craig144_1
    @Craig144_1 5 місяців тому +3

    This is a perfect video to study along with the biblical book of Daniel chapter 11!

  • @farajaraf
    @farajaraf 3 роки тому +1

    Beautiful video as usual.

  • @tamaveirene
    @tamaveirene 3 місяці тому

    Brilliant video...just what we needed to get the facts without the fluff! Thank you. I have shared and shall subscribe. Great Respect from this Australian 🔥🔥🔥❣️

  • @futsolder4136
    @futsolder4136 3 роки тому +3

    who the heck gave Epimetheus the right to make videos with nearly lethal levels of awesomeness???

  • @savioblanc
    @savioblanc 3 роки тому +5

    Those war elephants sent by the Indian Emperor turned out to be the best trade deal ever

    • @zuboy4272
      @zuboy4272 3 роки тому +7

      1 greek princess < 500 trained war elephants !

    • @savioblanc
      @savioblanc 3 роки тому +1

      @@zuboy4272 To paraphrase and change that Trump quote
      "This has been the best trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever"

    • @ShubhamMishrabro
      @ShubhamMishrabro 3 роки тому +3

      Welcome

    • @s4stats698
      @s4stats698 Місяць тому

      @@zuboy4272 1 greek princess + 700k million sqkm of land west of indus *

  • @antoinebrgt
    @antoinebrgt 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing vid as usual, thanks!

  • @tonihokkan9808
    @tonihokkan9808 3 роки тому +1

    I very appreciate this episode!

  • @VanaeCavae
    @VanaeCavae 3 роки тому +5

    I hope you can do an video about the spread of Buddhism within the Greek colonies in the east.
    Even ancient Greek writers wrote about Buddhist missionaries in Greece proper.

  • @kostasyian4788
    @kostasyian4788 3 роки тому +9

    Great video! Seleucus died EXACTLY 2300 years ago! How many times during the wars of the Diodochi a small event could change the world's history? If only Alexander's empire could stay united...

  • @mukul039
    @mukul039 3 роки тому

    I enjoy your videos a lot. Thank you.

  • @richardcharay7788
    @richardcharay7788 3 роки тому +1

    Enjoyed! Pls continue.

  • @chucknorris202
    @chucknorris202 3 роки тому +4

    Finally!! Ive been waiting for a video on the seluecid empire for a LONG time now.
    Can you do one on Lysimmachus? He is the diadochi I know the least about, in pretty much everything. I cant think of any notable achievements of his besides dying gloriously in battle even at an old age.
    Keep doing videos on and around this time period. The Classical period, the Hellenistic period/diadochi period, the Roman Period(republican and imperial), and so on. I also wanna see a video on the various Macedonian diadochi armies composition and training and equipment, and general battle tactics. Because I KNOW that Seleucis' not only used the standard Macedonian Sarissa Wielding heavy infantry pikemen as the heart of his army(like alexander and the other diadochi), but I also know that he had more of a variety of Troops than ANY other faction in his time....he had plenty of Gaulish Mercenaries during the batttle of Ipsus which he lost. The elephants too but you covered that, but not in a tactical way. He had plenty of REGULAR classical style hoplites too; Warriors with BIG Round shields and a one handed 8-9 foot spear and a Sword as a backup. He had countless slingers and archers and other missile troops, archers esp due to his persian subjects that were capable of being warriors all specialized in the bow and in hit and run tactics, the European warriors focus on melee hand to hand combat, for the most part. The cavalry of this time was also shockingly advanced...in fact I say they didnt get this good cavalry again in the Ancient world until hundreds of years later in the time of Julius Caesar(consistently this good I mean)...and Macedonian cavalry was the precursor to byzantine cavalry, therefore the precursor to knightly cavalry, they were early cataphracts, armored men on armored horses wielding lances and swords(and small shields too it seems). They let the persians and mercenaries handle the horse archery and similar ways of fighting.
    This is actually a very big topic. I'd like to see a breakdown of ALL of the Diadochi's military forces and ideal tactics.

  • @papaianiuarmy3111
    @papaianiuarmy3111 3 роки тому +7

    one of my favourite channels keep posting man :)))))

  • @m.a.9571
    @m.a.9571 3 роки тому +1

    Nice to see another epimitheus video

  • @Red1Napoleon
    @Red1Napoleon 3 роки тому

    Great video like always

  • @ChiGyu620
    @ChiGyu620 Рік тому +6

    Thanks for this video. Considering its size and importance, the Seleucid Empire seems to get very little coverage in media. It seems to be the most neglected of the successor kingdoms.

  • @trondsi
    @trondsi 3 роки тому +9

    I always feel as if the Seleucids get a bad rap because of the interactions they had with Rome (where most of our sources comes from). Many dynasties and empires in the region lasted shorter periods and had less influence. The founder was also evidently pretty badass :)

  • @Azwan1415
    @Azwan1415 3 роки тому +1

    This was amazing, thank you

  • @angquangtruong360
    @angquangtruong360 3 роки тому +1

    awesome vid man

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 3 роки тому +30

    And right over here, Alexander just had the idea of conquering the entire Persian empire. It's a great idea. He was...Great, and now he's dead. Hopefully, the rest of the gang will be able to share the empire evenly between them.

    • @grimgoreironhide9985
      @grimgoreironhide9985 3 роки тому +3

      *sarcasm intensifies*

    • @adilsheikh843
      @adilsheikh843 3 роки тому

      Knock knock Its Chandra gupta. He says get the hell out of here . Will you get the hell out of here if I give you 500 elephants. Ok thnx bye.
      Time to CONQUER ALL OF INDIAAAA !!

    • @adilsheikh843
      @adilsheikh843 3 роки тому +1

      @CARNAGE !!!
      Just search Histroy of entire world I guess by Willy brutz and then spend your lazy ass time in watching that 19min vidio and only after that you are eligible in replying me.

  • @benerdick_cumberbiatch
    @benerdick_cumberbiatch 3 роки тому +3

    I'm not one to dabble with classical antiquity, instead focusing on other subjects.
    But I've been intrigued by the Seleucid empire, ever since I saw king Arthur (2004).
    This video both satisfies that curiosity and completely surpasses my expectations of just how interesting the Seleucid's were.

  • @didierdenice7456
    @didierdenice7456 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent ! Thank you for sharing ! 👍

  • @jhonfaith3122
    @jhonfaith3122 3 роки тому +1

    Pretty cool info and explaining God bless u 😁🙏

  • @user-zz8ll5ry7r
    @user-zz8ll5ry7r 3 роки тому +11

    Thank you for this video! There are only a few documentaries on the Seleucid Empire. I couldn't find resources in Greek, either. I must say it has been largely neglected -not only underrated- as a "Diadochi" State. It would be nice to include its flag [the one that is like a reversed anchor]

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 3 роки тому +1

      maybe because it is considered an "Eastern empire", rather than a "Western empire", but in eastern history they are very well covered, as they are looked as Iranians, Iraqiac, Syrians, Afghans, Turkmenic, etc

    • @user-zz8ll5ry7r
      @user-zz8ll5ry7r 3 роки тому +3

      @@omarbradley6807 So, even in eastern historiography, the hellenized [Greek] character of the ruling class of that Empire is largely downsized? It was a multiethnic Empire, but some parts of its culture had a Greek/Hellenistic influence, that even the Parthians that conquered much of its lands kept for some time after the conquest of Iran [the Arsacids are said to have enjoyed theater, a staple part of Greek culture].

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 3 роки тому +3

      @@user-zz8ll5ry7r Of course who the Macedonian/Thracian/Greek influence helped the empire, but, the people from the "Western world" ignored the Seleucids, because they where, an advanced society, in the east. while in the eastern cultures it is knowed who the royal family was kind of a Macedonian/Sogdian, Macedionian/Epirote, Macedonian/Seleucid dynasty, the Satrapies where under the local kings, or Shas, that is why the Seleucids where Basileus but also Shanahashas, (kings of kings)

    • @pantelispantelis1820
      @pantelispantelis1820 3 роки тому

      @@user-zz8ll5ry7r discord.gg/Yj2yusGHqU

    • @saeedvazirian
      @saeedvazirian 3 роки тому

      That's because only Persians ruled Persia. Suck it.

  • @Crafty_Spirit
    @Crafty_Spirit 3 роки тому +9

    😁😁😁 I've been waiting for a skilled content creator to adress this story. So far I've found only bad or mediocre videos regarding this subject on youtube. But hey, we are talking about roughly 150 years of Hellenic rule in the heartland of the first civilisations and empires! It wasn't all Iranian, Arabic, and Turkic overlords.

  • @chasephillips8359
    @chasephillips8359 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent video, always love to hear what u have to say

  • @kostasmpyras
    @kostasmpyras 3 роки тому +1

    Great video man

  • @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081
    @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 3 роки тому +12

    The humour of these videos never disappoints.

  • @Nihoolious
    @Nihoolious 3 роки тому +7

    Such an underappreciated period of history. Not much mainstream coverage of it and the only Paradox grand strategy game that covers the era is awful too.

  • @martynparkman6336
    @martynparkman6336 3 роки тому

    Great vid, learnt stuff, thanks.

  • @catsnads01
    @catsnads01 3 роки тому +1

    Nice one. Thank you!

  • @Danymok
    @Danymok 3 роки тому +15

    Hellenic Emperors had quite a habit of dying unexpectedly.

    • @DNC_Patrik
      @DNC_Patrik 3 роки тому +1

      Guess they even took that from Alex

  • @illerac84
    @illerac84 3 роки тому +84

    The Romans certainly don't have time for any silliness.

  • @rojetsmith2759
    @rojetsmith2759 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks alot. It was very entertaining and interesting.

  • @shzarmai
    @shzarmai 3 роки тому +2

    Nice video fam :)

  • @33ttips
    @33ttips 3 роки тому +3

    Love it, hit my blind spot..