A good video to sum up modern UK motorcycling: bimbling about in traffic and through endless built-up areas in 3rd. Then out on the open road, if you ever dared try to enjoy the immensity of power that the Panigale has to offer, you can fall foul of the first speed trap. I've owned Ducatis for over 30 years, but this one would be an endless frustration until I eventually lost my licence. Which might not take long. You're going to have to blur out the speedo if you ever try to really test this thing. It's a lot of money to buy a lot of stuff that you won't ever need or be able to use on the road. Very sad. Biking was a lot more fun in the 90s.
Thank you for posting. Like you, I think the Pannigale is the most beautiful new bike in the market today. I am a sucker for single swing arms. Can't wait for your long term report.
Love the looks of the V4S Panigale, but spent my money on the Supersport S. More likely to keep my license, and still have fun on real roads. Mirrors have gone away, replaced by bar end units, exhaust is the updated Akro units, and the Supersport S is still a lot of fun at normal speeds.
oh, and Mr Flyer, I have a few questions for the in depth review, hope you mention it 1. Does it hot ? 2. How is it fell in low speed 3. Is it hard to maintain it (as other ducatis) 4. How its fuel consumption ? better than the 1299 and MT 10 ? Thanks for your videos sir !!!
You lucky, lucky sod LOL, a fella at our club bought the V4S during the summer and let me have a ride on it, to be honest I was a bit wary before I rode it as the same fella had a Panigale 1199 in the past which he was kind enough to loan me and I can say it was the first bike since the original Kawasaki H2 to scare me but the V4 is a completely different kettle of fish, it's as civilised as you want it to be and is as mad as you want it to be. I found it to be almost Fireblade like in the way you feel instantly at home on it and it's so confidence instilling, as I said you're a lucky man!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I thought that might be what you'd suggest! i'm going to make a trip to ducati cambridge in the new year to have a chat with them and to see what i can get as a trade in for my 2013 street triple.
Is the bike too powerful for the road. Of course it is - However, it comes down to the brain sitting on the saddle. Self control - needed in buckets full. The bike is perfect but if it was under my butt on a day to day basis I would probably yield to temptation and give it a squirt and there goes the licence. I have enough trouble keeping the temptation at bay on my 14 RT and I have a few pieces of road that I know well and when the traffic conditions are right (and the High Way Patrol is absent) I give the bike her head and the grin fills the visor. Owning this rocket would be like flying a fighter around in controlled airspace - following the Airbus/Boeing people movers. Love your bike assessments.
Fantastic review, I loved my test ride on one. I’d have one in a flash if I could stretch that far! Beautiful looks and the power is just crazy, love it. Stay safe
Looks good. V4. The only V4 I’ve ever had was ST1300 Honda Pan, which had an amazingly smooth engine, which also went up to 80mph without even noticing. Hang on to your licence TMF.
What the hell, forget the MCN,how can you compare TMF to a Michael Neeves who tested the V4S on the road as a long term loan bike and also on track! He is also a seasoned racer and endurance racer. Neeves put this bike through its paces and didn't just bumble round like TMF does. Yes TMF needs to stay legal as much as he can but he can not give feedback like a seasoned racer can. I love TMFs videos but some bikes he tests are lost on him due to him not having the experience of riding bikes at race level. Although I like to see the reactions and opinions of the average bloke like TMF on these sort of bikes if I wanted to know what there really capable of TMF is the last bloke you'd watch. Many buy these bikes to pose on as you need to be loaded to pay repairs should you get things wrong and let's be honest the faster you go the more likely of things going south. No offense to TMF intended but he should not be compared to a seasoned racer on this type of bike!
Szlejer last time I checked Neeves has his V4S as a long term loan bike,apart from track work,he used it to commute on and also toured on it. TMF had it for a few hours,he can only give a first account review of this bike unlike Neeves who lived with it for a while. If you would buy this of the back of TMFs review then crack on..... Why would a "racer" have a "skewed" perspective! Neeves is one of MCN's main road testers not just a "racer" what a daft comment to come out with,your basically saying he can't review a bike for road use as he races bike's.
@@philiproberts6947 Don't try to put your words in my mouth, buddy... Thanks. I never said he has skewed perspective, try to comprehend stuff before posting. Anyone at the high/extreme end of any hobby/sport has a somewhat skewed perspective than the average joe. A "racer" has completely different concept of riding comfort, just to give you one example...
What a bike, the first Ducati I have ridden that goes better than it looks, and it looks better than any other sports bike out ! I am not a 'Ducatisti' but this is easily THE sports bike of the year
That is a thoroughbred exotic sports machine. As in most cases, it draws strong opinions from people that cannot or will not ever own or ride one. I would love a go!!! Enjoy the ride!!
What a great fist look! Like you, I’m smitten with Ducatis in general. They are beautiful just sitting still, and always a thrill to ride. I am “making do” with the previous R version (1299 R FE), but I certainly think the V4S (and upcoming R) is incredible. I don’t know for sure, but the quick shifter may behave differently depending on the riding mode. Plus, as you know, they are constantly improving things like that via firmware updates. By the way, you “caused” me to get the new R1250 GS Adventure when I quite innocently happened to go look at the new models. This channel has cost me quite a bit of money!
Great review and pleased to hear the bike has a little more legroom for us 6’4” freaks. I’ll wait until it gets a bit warmer though before I book a test ride.
I've test ridden that temptress and while it was more comfortable than I expected in terms of riding position, it's so HOT. Besides that, you could get A LOT of bike in a GS/A or Multistrada for less coin. Maybe if I were a track day junky. Congrats on getting to ride it for a bit!
Beautiful Bike ....Still Sounds Great. Lovely...but could only watch half the vlog.... way to far above my pay grade and I'm not keen on waste my life day dreaming...... Live the DREAM my friend..
Thanks TMF, if I had the cash I would buy one tomorrow. Beautiful! I haven't watched too many reviews on this but I like yours because it's more real world for a rider like me. One of these and a new GS1250 in the garage would sort me out a treat.
I have a 2022 V2 panigale. I would like a V4 which would be tracked every now and then but mostly street riding. I've been told id like the V2 better overall though. Thoughts?
As an aggressive rider, something like this V4 would definitely be "too much for the road" in my hands....For all the fun I might have, I'm sure the traffic violations I'd collect would ruin that right quick... This Panigale V4 does seem very well behaved though....
Beautiful bike and totally over the top in every way. Do I want one? Yes. Will I get one? No. On today's roads with all the traffic, texting idiots and cameras there is little opportunity to enjoy the performance and sports bikes rarely make great daily drivers. Commuting on a sports bike is the price people pay for their weekend excitement. Great if you have very deep pockets and can own one as a weekend toy but there's a reason sports bikes are less popular these days and it was summed up nicely by a mate of mine. "I've got this fantastic bike but can't use it without risking my licence and life." He now rides an Africa Twin. I have a workhorse GS for long trips and Bonneville T100 for the rural lanes, fantastic riding at less cost and risk to the licence. Great review as always.
Hey kids, missendenflyer here, hope you're well, haha, 😍 please don't ever stop with that introduction and i will Allways stick around and stay tuned. You're my favourie ❤
@@TheMissendenFlyer 👍 Credit where it's due lad, you're working hard for it. Ordinarily I'm not one for commenting, but when a must, i shall. Content is always great. Glad you're enjoying it
I couldn't have a sports bike as my only bike but as a nice bit of kit for the odd spirited ride, if I could afford it, I'd love to own one. It's a lot of money but a top of the line Ducati is always an aspirational bike.
Sounds excellent :-) Yes would need to swap out the viby fixed mirrors for aftermarket foldable, had to do this on the 959 as well. The new R model is a weapon !
So exciting to see that this bike will get the MF full treatment. I can count on you to give the lowdown that I really need - day to day life, riding at night, etc. Especially interested to see how the heat issue gets on over time, as well as the night lighting.
I missed this (was in January?). Wow what a ride. Addictive power, wonderful handling. Those sticky tyres fractionally more grooved than slicks! Will its electronic gizmos overcome aquaplaning - I don't think so! Saw the 70 speed limit past in 2nd gear, so how frustrating would this be on a blast? Drooling over the beauty of the machine, could almost live with the vibrating mirrors and silly side stand. What a beautiful racing machine. As soon as the wife approves me buying a Bugatti Veyron, this bike will be on my next wish list. Sigh. Look forward to the in depth review.
My “tweaked” ‘09 Honda VFR is still one of my favorite bikes; gotta love (or hate) the bipolar V4. However, what I’d love to see produced is a 500 - 600cc V4.
Gorgeous wallet busting machine, looking forward to your long term review 'what's it like to ride in the rain in the middle of a British winter? Take care, all the best.
It would be great if you could get hold of a 1299 Superleggera to try. I love the look of that bike, especially in its Red and White colours. Ducati Panigales' are always such good looking bikes :)
Great video which has brought back some great memories. I lived in Bucks for over 20 years so I know the roads you are riding very well! @9.56 there is a place on the left which used to be a pub and hosted bike meets in the Summer, many a good hoon has been had along that road. :-D The biggest problem these days is the amount of traffic, getting a clear run from Aylesbury to Buckingham must be near to impossible. :-(
It’s a beaut. That tail end would suit a nice top box. Lol. If I bought one of these,fat chance, I’d have a tail tidy waiting in the garage to pop on as soon as I got home.
Even with the dreadful mirrors similar to those on my Supersport, would love to own one of these in a few years once hopefully second hand values make them a bit more affordable, look forward to your longer term review, particularly regarding comfort on longer journeys and as such whether or not you could tour on her. Cheers TMF.
Sorry to be blunt but you'd have to be a fool to tour on this bike. Sport oriented body position, non-existent off-road capabilities, no serious engine or fairing protection options, extremely limited luggage options, way less comfort than on a proper touring bike, less weather protection and probably shitty fuel economy. You wouldn't take your Italian leather shoes jogging through a country meadow now, would you? Same principle applies here. You can, but you'll have a terrible experience... and you'll ruin your fancy Italian shoes.
@@mickeypopa, Fair enough more in hope than expectation that such a beautiful sportsbike would be capable of touring, although see plenty of Aprilla Tuono's doing longer trips.
Hi TMF, have you ever tested the Aprilia RSV4? Great bikes the apes. Would be interested to hear your view of the RSV4 v Panigale V4S. Great review btw.
Having three Ducati twins, honestly still not completely sold on the Pani V4 over the RSV4. Mainly due to the sound. At low revs it sounds almost exactly like the twin, I expecting more like the Desmosedici RR (or perhaps similar to RSV4). Maybe an exhaust would help, but I kind of doubt it and they are ridiculously expensive for Termi or Akrapovic for the bike. Exhaust cannot change the phase of the sound from the four cylinders using the crank Ducati does to mimic a twin sound. Was totally ready to love it (and do in almost every way)...but the sound....
Just a thought for those getting older like me with bad back and can't handle the sport bike position any longer and the cb 400 has a vtec engine as well for younger riders in Europe as you can not buy a Honda cb 400 in the states
Yes the one thing that lets the duke v4 down to my mind is it’s sound - not horrible but nowhere near as nice as other v4s to listen to. Other than that a simply brilliant sport bike though....
Good review, you're clearly a fan...curious how few comments about price...around £24K ! the multi purpose GS's get slated for the price. I've just recently sold an 1198S I've had from new, a bruiser of a bike, not smooth, not comfortable, a challenge to ride well, mirrors were pants and no range (best I got 92 miles) but I loved it ! can't say I'm feeling the Panigale, I'm sure they are a much more refined bike but after having owned Ducati's on and off since 1980 refinement was never something I yearned for, however, it is more likely to appeal to younger buyers...I must be getting old.
Absolute dreambike, but also simply incredibly expensive. I simply cant justify forking over that much dosh for a motorcycle when I could get 3 others for the same money..
I've got the standard V4.Had to back the preload off almost fully on both front and rear suspension for the road.There's a lot of weight on your palms due to the low bars but apart from that it's surprisingly comfy.It's mostly an issue on bumpy b roads at lower speeds. It leaves me wondering how much better the ohlins version is,and how I can raise about ten grand to upgrade to the 2019 Corse version! Up and down shifter makes it feel like a semi automatic. So easy. Look forward to seeing more reviews :-)
Good point. I can't imagine the semi active suspension can go any softer than my current set up anyway.They all have the same maximum travel.Makes a big difference backing everything off for the bumpy cart tracks of North Yorkshire!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes if you ever get the chance you really must. Riding position is similar to the 1200RT but slightly sportier, slightly more forward lean and bend in the legs. Handling is divine for such a large bike at about 290 kg wet. The engine is her heart however. It has a character all of her own. Extremely smooth, turbine like with a torque curve unlike anything you would expect out of an inline 4. It doesn't matter where you are in the rpm range, when you punch the throttle it goes. It is rated at 136 HP so maybe they took a little off the peak power to make gains across the rest of the power band. Whatever they did, it just works.
Gotta agree with you about the panageli being a thing of Beauty, I have a couple of things against it though. 1, cost, 2 fear factor of servicing and repair, and 3, all the Ducati bikes in my opinion they having got the plumbing not right always appears unfinished or not routed correctly. (thats the pipe work) : )
Yes, it's a gorgeous looking bike, yes it has loads of power but who needs 200+ bhp on the streets. Less than half will do. Commuter bike? No luggage capacity, poor weather protection. Seating position is set for speed not comfort and therefore not for touring. Can you use it as an everyday bike? Of course you can but it wouldn't be the best bike for that purpose. Still a bike to fall in love with. I'm still in love with the v-strom dl650, not a beautiful bike but a great bike for everything. P.s. I'm curious how it will do on a small road with some short, sharp consecutive corners Why? The handle bars are narrow and I think you will have to work hard unless you take the corners slow.
Beautiful bike, enjoyed your review. At this stage of life my neck/back can't handle the sport bike riding position (I miss my Aprilia Mille).....but one can always dream. Where did I put that lotto ticket........anyways, Happy Holidays.
I was wondering how you rate this panigale v4 against the likes of the other high powered (200 "ish" bhp) sports bikes you've riden, eg. Ninja H2, Suzuki gsxr etc...???
I did read its had 4 recalls in the first 9 months the latest a cam chain adjuster issue, if faulty oil leaks onto the rear tyre. Looks great but I'd rather be riding than in a garage. Sounds like Ducati up to their old tricks.
In a few weeks it would be interesting to see how riding the 'latest and greatest' bikes affects your enjoyment of your personal bikes. The Ducati and GS in particular. After a night out with Rachel Riley can one go back to 'er indoors? So to speak. And is it possible you can give us the current mileage on your loan bikes? Noticed it was a '67 plate so wondered if it had been run-in or was pre-reg. cheers.
How do you know I'm not married to Rachel Riley? ...and this particular bike is at the end of its press fleet life, I think I was the last person to ride it (after all the real journos had had their fun) before it gets released into the wild....
Given the cost of this machine, I think Ducati would have come up with a better looking solution to the design of their master cylinder reservoirs. They look akin to the receptacle one might use to provide a urine sample! Why do they go from the designed ones on the Diavel to what looks like last minute add-ons on this Panigale?
Yeah it's bizarre that isn't it Ken - one of the first things I swapped out on my 899 - the red anodised Ducati Performance ones look great and should come as standard.....
Lovely bike and I am sure it is great to ride! Personally, I prefer the looks of the previous model. I am not a fan of rear seat cowl on the new V4 Panigale. It's too high IMO and I found it quite difficult to get my leg high enough when getting on one so as not to catch the paintwork. I'm sure its a better bike but it's definitely not as pretty as the previous model. Great review BTW...
A good video to sum up modern UK motorcycling: bimbling about in traffic and through endless built-up areas in 3rd. Then out on the open road, if you ever dared try to enjoy the immensity of power that the Panigale has to offer, you can fall foul of the first speed trap. I've owned Ducatis for over 30 years, but this one would be an endless frustration until I eventually lost my licence. Which might not take long. You're going to have to blur out the speedo if you ever try to really test this thing.
It's a lot of money to buy a lot of stuff that you won't ever need or be able to use on the road. Very sad. Biking was a lot more fun in the 90s.
It still has some of that twin sound. They dialed the exhaust note in just right.
Even being late to review this monster I’m happy and eagerly awaiting your long term thoughts on it.
Thank you for posting. Like you, I think the Pannigale is the most beautiful new bike in the market today. I am a sucker for single swing arms. Can't wait for your long term report.
You're not wrong about it being one of the best looking bikes going, it's an absolute thing of beauty.
Love the looks of the V4S Panigale, but spent my money on the Supersport S. More likely to keep my license, and still have fun on real roads. Mirrors have gone away, replaced by bar end units, exhaust is the updated Akro units, and the Supersport S is still a lot of fun at normal speeds.
which is the loudest exhaust for supersport s , i want to change the stock one!
Ive just taken delivery of a 2019 V4S after a 2018 V4 and the mirrors on the 19 model are solid and no issues with vibrations :)
A Ducati superbike that is easy to live with? What times we live in! Thanks for the video, Mr Flyer, looking forward to the next vids!
Great review as always. Love that stretch of A413
Cheers William...
and then we'll have a in depth review in 1 or 2 more months, love it
Stay tuned!
oh, and Mr Flyer, I have a few questions for the in depth review, hope you mention it
1. Does it hot ?
2. How is it fell in low speed
3. Is it hard to maintain it (as other ducatis)
4. How its fuel consumption ? better than the 1299 and MT 10 ?
Thanks for your videos sir !!!
You lucky, lucky sod LOL, a fella at our club bought the V4S during the summer and let me have a ride on it, to be honest I was a bit wary before I rode it as the same fella had a Panigale 1199 in the past which he was kind enough to loan me and I can say it was the first bike since the original Kawasaki H2 to scare me but the V4 is a completely different kettle of fish, it's as civilised as you want it to be and is as mad as you want it to be. I found it to be almost Fireblade like in the way you feel instantly at home on it and it's so confidence instilling, as I said you're a lucky man!
My thoughts exactly - a supremely forgiving beast of a bike!
Its about time you had this bike for a long term review, i’m in 2 minds about getting one over a 959 panigale next year!
Get the 959!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I thought that might be what you'd suggest! i'm going to make a trip to ducati cambridge in the new year to have a chat with them and to see what i can get as a trade in for my 2013 street triple.
OMG - back to that “charmed life” - you lucky man. What a bike it is - so looking forward to your long term review. Yours aye, Alan
Is the bike too powerful for the road. Of course it is - However, it comes down to the brain sitting on the saddle. Self control - needed in buckets full. The bike is perfect but if it was under my butt on a day to day basis I would probably yield to temptation and give it a squirt and there goes the licence. I have enough trouble keeping the temptation at bay on my 14 RT and I have a few pieces of road that I know well and when the traffic conditions are right (and the High Way Patrol is absent) I give the bike her head and the grin fills the visor. Owning this rocket would be like flying a fighter around in controlled airspace - following the Airbus/Boeing people movers. Love your bike assessments.
Thanks TMF, hanging out for this one
You are very welcome!
Fantastic review, I loved my test ride on one. I’d have one in a flash if I could stretch that far! Beautiful looks and the power is just crazy, love it. Stay safe
Good stuff - glad you like it! All the best - TMF
Looks good. V4. The only V4 I’ve ever had was ST1300 Honda Pan, which had an amazingly smooth engine, which also went up to 80mph without even noticing. Hang on to your licence TMF.
Forget MCN etc ... this is the review that counts!
Yes, if your superbike is used to bumble about on in jeans...
What the hell, forget the MCN,how can you compare TMF to a Michael Neeves who tested the V4S on the road as a long term loan bike and also on track! He is also a seasoned racer and endurance racer. Neeves put this bike through its paces and didn't just bumble round like TMF does. Yes TMF needs to stay legal as much as he can but he can not give feedback like a seasoned racer can.
I love TMFs videos but some bikes he tests are lost on him due to him not having the experience of riding bikes at race level.
Although I like to see the reactions and opinions of the average bloke like TMF on these sort of bikes if I wanted to know what there really capable of TMF is the last bloke you'd watch.
Many buy these bikes to pose on as you need to be loaded to pay repairs should you get things wrong and let's be honest the faster you go the more likely of things going south.
No offense to TMF intended but he should not be compared to a seasoned racer on this type of bike!
@@philiproberts6947 This review is far more valuable for the average rider than the somewhat skewed perspective of a racer. ;)
Szlejer last time I checked Neeves has his V4S as a long term loan bike,apart from track work,he used it to commute on and also toured on it. TMF had it for a few hours,he can only give a first account review of this bike unlike Neeves who lived with it for a while. If you would buy this of the back of TMFs review then crack on.....
Why would a "racer" have a "skewed" perspective! Neeves is one of MCN's main road testers not just a "racer" what a daft comment to come out with,your basically saying he can't review a bike for road use as he races bike's.
@@philiproberts6947 Don't try to put your words in my mouth, buddy... Thanks. I never said he has skewed perspective, try to comprehend stuff before posting. Anyone at the high/extreme end of any hobby/sport has a somewhat skewed perspective than the average joe. A "racer" has completely different concept of riding comfort, just to give you one example...
Thanks TMF
True world review, always love your videos. Would love to see you out on a ride one day. Maybe in the summer you could sort a ride out
What a bike, the first Ducati I have ridden that goes better than it looks, and it looks better than any other sports bike out ! I am not a 'Ducatisti' but this is easily THE sports bike of the year
Agreed!
Hey TMF,
Great video as always 👏
I'm guessing practically is not at the top of the list when buying that completely amazing work of art!!
That is a thoroughbred exotic sports machine. As in most cases, it draws strong opinions from people that cannot or will not ever own or ride one. I would love a go!!! Enjoy the ride!!
What a great fist look! Like you, I’m smitten with Ducatis in general. They are beautiful just sitting still, and always a thrill to ride. I am “making do” with the previous R version (1299 R FE), but I certainly think the V4S (and upcoming R) is incredible. I don’t know for sure, but the quick shifter may behave differently depending on the riding mode. Plus, as you know, they are constantly improving things like that via firmware updates. By the way, you “caused” me to get the new R1250 GS Adventure when I quite innocently happened to go look at the new models. This channel has cost me quite a bit of money!
....and yes the quickshifter sharpened up in the more dynamic modes....really slick
Stunning bike and a great review. What gloves are you wearing btw?
Those are my Weise Deacons, see my review here >> ua-cam.com/video/BvokLBdPdo4/v-deo.html
Thanks for the great initial review. Does this mean the 899’s days are numbered?
Stay tuned!
Must have some track days with that one. Ducatis are wonderfu bikes. Thank you .........Sal : )
Brilliant review .keep them coming all your reviews give a very good insight into the 2019 bikes
Thank you Dan - appreciated!
Good Video, Just bought a Speciale :-) Just SUBSCRIBED! Look forward to your new videos on the V4!
Great review and pleased to hear the bike has a little more legroom for us 6’4” freaks. I’ll wait until it gets a bit warmer though before I book a test ride.
Plenty of heat on board!
That Sir is a very good point and it will get me over my present cabin fever👍
Absolutely beautiful machine
Stupid fast for the road it would take real self control not to lose your license
Great review again thanks 👍
I've test ridden that temptress and while it was more comfortable than I expected in terms of riding position, it's so HOT. Besides that, you could get A LOT of bike in a GS/A or Multistrada for less coin. Maybe if I were a track day junky. Congrats on getting to ride it for a bit!
Totally with you on this the superbikes are getting to much for road use 👍👍
all that power is meant to be used on track not on the road.....why do people say its too much for the road
The average family car does over 100 mph - it’s not the vehicle it’s the driver !
Looks like Xmas cane a little early for you this year!😉. Looking forward to hearing more about. Enjoy what I'm sure will feel far too short a time.
I've neither the skill nor the back for one of those.
Lol! 😂. I love that reply.
@@keithjackson4985 true. Cheers Keith
One of the best reviews ive seen on this bike👌👍
Thank you very much!
Beautiful Bike ....Still Sounds Great. Lovely...but could only watch half the vlog.... way to far above my pay grade and I'm not keen on waste my life day dreaming...... Live the DREAM my friend..
Thanks TMF, if I had the cash I would buy one tomorrow. Beautiful! I haven't watched too many reviews on this but I like yours because it's more real world for a rider like me. One of these and a new GS1250 in the garage would sort me out a treat.
Great combo I reckon (for now I'll have to settle for my 899 Panigale and R1200GS!)
I have a 2022 V2 panigale. I would like a V4 which would be tracked every now and then but mostly street riding. I've been told id like the V2 better overall though. Thoughts?
Yes I think the V2 is probably the better road bike….
Thanks for another honest review video
Thanks for watching!
TMF you're riding along roads on one of my favourite routes The humpback bridge is good fun :)
Yes you can get some serious air over that if you’re not careful!
As an aggressive rider, something like this V4 would definitely be "too much for the road" in my hands....For all the fun I might have, I'm sure the traffic violations I'd collect would ruin that right quick...
This Panigale V4 does seem very well behaved though....
Beautiful bike and totally over the top in every way. Do I want one? Yes. Will I get one? No. On today's roads with all the traffic, texting idiots and cameras there is little opportunity to enjoy the performance and sports bikes rarely make great daily drivers. Commuting on a sports bike is the price people pay for their weekend excitement. Great if you have very deep pockets and can own one as a weekend toy but there's a reason sports bikes are less popular these days and it was summed up nicely by a mate of mine. "I've got this fantastic bike but can't use it without risking my licence and life." He now rides an Africa Twin. I have a workhorse GS for long trips and Bonneville T100 for the rural lanes, fantastic riding at less cost and risk to the licence. Great review as always.
...can't help but agree with everything you've said there Nick - thanks for watching and for stopping by...TMF
Hey kids, missendenflyer here, hope you're well, haha, 😍 please don't ever stop with that introduction and i will Allways stick around and stay tuned. You're my favourie ❤
Thanks very much for the kind words - much appreciated!
@@TheMissendenFlyer 👍 Credit where it's due lad, you're working hard for it. Ordinarily I'm not one for commenting, but when a must, i shall. Content is always great. Glad you're enjoying it
Nice review. What’s the purpose of the street centerline in town that goes from straight to a jagged pattern?
I couldn't have a sports bike as my only bike but as a nice bit of kit for the odd spirited ride, if I could afford it, I'd love to own one. It's a lot of money but a top of the line Ducati is always an aspirational bike.
Brilliant, what you think of the 821 monster ?
Sounds excellent :-) Yes would need to swap out the viby fixed mirrors for aftermarket foldable, had to do this on the 959 as well. The new R model is a weapon !
So exciting to see that this bike will get the MF full treatment. I can count on you to give the lowdown that I really need - day to day life, riding at night, etc. Especially interested to see how the heat issue gets on over time, as well as the night lighting.
Stay tuned!
Beautiful machine, but oh dear those reflectors on the brake calipers!
They would be getting launched day one. Probs only on for USA regs
I missed this (was in January?). Wow what a ride. Addictive power, wonderful handling. Those sticky tyres fractionally more grooved than slicks! Will its electronic gizmos overcome aquaplaning - I don't think so! Saw the 70 speed limit past in 2nd gear, so how frustrating would this be on a blast? Drooling over the beauty of the machine, could almost live with the vibrating mirrors and silly side stand. What a beautiful racing machine. As soon as the wife approves me buying a Bugatti Veyron, this bike will be on my next wish list. Sigh. Look forward to the in depth review.
Never been into sports bike myself but not everyone is into the same bike so for you piston heads out there enjoy :)
My “tweaked” ‘09 Honda VFR is still one of my favorite bikes; gotta love (or hate) the bipolar V4. However, what I’d love to see produced is a 500 - 600cc V4.
Gorgeous wallet busting machine, looking forward to your long term review 'what's it like to ride in the rain in the middle of a British winter? Take care, all the best.
I wanted you to ping off that horrible reflector from the front caliper during the walkround
Hi, did you like the new s1000rr better in terms of street comfort, handling and practicality ? How would you compare the two ? Thanks once again
Perhaps marginally yes - but only marginal at best....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for replying! I think I am going for the Panigale V2 - hopefully :)
It would be great if you could get hold of a 1299 Superleggera to try. I love the look of that bike, especially in its Red and White colours. Ducati Panigales' are always such good looking bikes :)
Great video which has brought back some great memories. I lived in Bucks for over 20 years so I know the roads you are riding very well! @9.56 there is a place on the left which used to be a pub and hosted bike meets in the Summer, many a good hoon has been had along that road. :-D The biggest problem these days is the amount of traffic, getting a clear run from Aylesbury to Buckingham must be near to impossible. :-(
...you're right there....
Great review TMF, can’t wait for the next one. Any view of whether for road use the V4 is a better bet than the v4S at £5k more
Well I’ve not ridden the Standard V4 so can’t really say - my guess is that I wouldn’t tell the difference on the road...
Very interested in your long term review of this Ducati! I want to know if I should buy for weekend riding fun! Or gs? Or a super sport s ?
...if you can afford the V4 or GS forget the supersport! More reviews coming soon on this beauty...
It’s a beaut. That tail end would suit a nice top box. Lol. If I bought one of these,fat chance, I’d have a tail tidy waiting in the garage to pop on as soon as I got home.
Nice bike, is that the valve train I'm hearing?
Dunno.....
Beautiful bike , great review
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
Instant like... let’s watch the content now..;)
Even with the dreadful mirrors similar to those on my Supersport, would love to own one of these in a few years once hopefully second hand values make them a bit more affordable, look forward to your longer term review, particularly regarding comfort on longer journeys and as such whether or not you could tour on her. Cheers TMF.
Sorry to be blunt but you'd have to be a fool to tour on this bike. Sport oriented body position, non-existent off-road capabilities, no serious engine or fairing protection options, extremely limited luggage options, way less comfort than on a proper touring bike, less weather protection and probably shitty fuel economy. You wouldn't take your Italian leather shoes jogging through a country meadow now, would you? Same principle applies here. You can, but you'll have a terrible experience... and you'll ruin your fancy Italian shoes.
@@mickeypopa, Fair enough more in hope than expectation that such a beautiful sportsbike would be capable of touring, although see plenty of Aprilla Tuono's doing longer trips.
What gloves are you using? Looks like they can hold against the low and wet temp
Hi TMF, have you ever tested the Aprilia RSV4? Great bikes the apes. Would be interested to hear your view of the RSV4 v Panigale V4S. Great review btw.
Having three Ducati twins, honestly still not completely sold on the Pani V4 over the RSV4. Mainly due to the sound. At low revs it sounds almost exactly like the twin, I expecting more like the Desmosedici RR (or perhaps similar to RSV4). Maybe an exhaust would help, but I kind of doubt it and they are ridiculously expensive for Termi or Akrapovic for the bike. Exhaust cannot change the phase of the sound from the four cylinders using the crank Ducati does to mimic a twin sound. Was totally ready to love it (and do in almost every way)...but the sound....
...yeah I must admit my 899 does sound better when you wind her up!
Just a thought for those getting older like me with bad back and can't handle the sport bike position any longer and the cb 400 has a vtec engine as well for younger riders in Europe as you can not buy a Honda cb 400 in the states
I’m just about to buy a 1299 Ducati pan s 2016 good or bad idea help !
Depends on the price!
Great review, I'm a massive Ducati fan but the clatter from that engine is terrible compared to Richy Vida's Honda with 85k on the clock.
Yes the one thing that lets the duke v4 down to my mind is it’s sound - not horrible but nowhere near as nice as other v4s to listen to. Other than that a simply brilliant sport bike though....
grats on 100k!
Much better than your prior GS vs GS video, where I had to fall asleep!
...brilliant - an improvement!
One of the best looking bikes no question. Better performance than the Aprilia... But I still prefer the latter for noise (I'm a touch bias though)
Good review, you're clearly a fan...curious how few comments about price...around £24K ! the multi purpose GS's get slated for the price. I've just recently sold an 1198S I've had from new, a bruiser of a bike, not smooth, not comfortable, a challenge to ride well, mirrors were pants and no range (best I got 92 miles) but I loved it ! can't say I'm feeling the Panigale, I'm sure they are a much more refined bike but after having owned Ducati's on and off since 1980 refinement was never something I yearned for, however, it is more likely to appeal to younger buyers...I must be getting old.
Absolute dreambike, but also simply incredibly expensive. I simply cant justify forking over that much dosh for a motorcycle when I could get 3 others for the same money..
only three?!
@@keyboarddancers7751 You'd be lucky to get two for that price these days, for new 600cc sport bikes and up.
Beautiful Italian bike 🤙
I've got the standard V4.Had to back the preload off almost fully on both front and rear suspension for the road.There's a lot of weight on your palms due to the low bars but apart from that it's surprisingly comfy.It's mostly an issue on bumpy b roads at lower speeds. It leaves me wondering how much better the ohlins version is,and how I can raise about ten grand to upgrade to the 2019 Corse version! Up and down shifter makes it feel like a semi automatic. So easy. Look forward to seeing more reviews :-)
Good point. I can't imagine the semi active suspension can go any softer than my current set up anyway.They all have the same maximum travel.Makes a big difference backing everything off for the bumpy cart tracks of North Yorkshire!
Very nice, have you by chance ever had the opportunity to ride a 2014 or higher Gen3 Yamaha FJR? I would be curious to hear you impressions of one.
No I haven't - would love too - gorgeous looking machine!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes if you ever get the chance you really must. Riding position is similar to the 1200RT but slightly sportier, slightly more forward lean and bend in the legs. Handling is divine for such a large bike at about 290 kg wet. The engine is her heart however. It has a character all of her own. Extremely smooth, turbine like with a torque curve unlike anything you would expect out of an inline 4. It doesn't matter where you are in the rpm range, when you punch the throttle it goes. It is rated at 136 HP so maybe they took a little off the peak power to make gains across the rest of the power band. Whatever they did, it just works.
TMF how does it compare to the Tuono? Cheers Phil
Favourably!
Sir can i know what gloves are you wearing?
Gotta agree with you about the panageli being a thing of Beauty, I have a couple of things against it though. 1, cost, 2 fear factor of servicing and repair, and 3, all the Ducati bikes in my opinion they having got the plumbing not right always appears unfinished or not routed correctly. (thats the pipe work) : )
Yes, it's a gorgeous looking bike, yes it has loads of power but who needs 200+ bhp on the streets. Less than half will do.
Commuter bike? No luggage capacity, poor weather protection. Seating position is set for speed not comfort and therefore not for touring.
Can you use it as an everyday bike? Of course you can but it wouldn't be the best bike for that purpose.
Still a bike to fall in love with. I'm still in love with the v-strom dl650, not a beautiful bike but a great bike for everything.
P.s. I'm curious how it will do on a small road with some short, sharp consecutive corners Why? The handle bars are narrow and I think you will have to work hard unless you take the corners slow.
Please tell ducati to make a modern version of the supermono. Or their version of the aprilia rs660. I know they'll listen to you.
Yeah right!!
Beautiful bike, enjoyed your review. At this stage of life my neck/back can't handle the sport bike riding position (I miss my Aprilia Mille).....but one can always dream. Where did I put that lotto ticket........anyways, Happy Holidays.
.....and to you!
i guess you will do it in the followup videos, but i wish you would show the switch gear and dash of the bikes you review
I was wondering how you rate this panigale v4 against the likes of the other high powered (200 "ish" bhp) sports bikes you've riden, eg. Ninja H2, Suzuki gsxr etc...???
The best I've ridden....
I did read its had 4 recalls in the first 9 months the latest a cam chain adjuster issue, if faulty oil leaks onto the rear tyre. Looks great but I'd rather be riding than in a garage. Sounds like Ducati up to their old tricks.
Great vid Tmf....... is the gs up for sale now????😆😆😆👍👍👍👍
Nah, I love that thing.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer hahaha......could you tour on the panni???... or to extreme..... depends on what floats your boat!! I'll stick with my SDR.👍👍😆😆😆
In a few weeks it would be interesting to see how riding the 'latest and greatest' bikes affects your enjoyment of your personal bikes. The Ducati and GS in particular. After a night out with Rachel Riley can one go back to 'er indoors? So to speak. And is it possible you can give us the current mileage on your loan bikes? Noticed it was a '67 plate so wondered if it had been run-in or was pre-reg. cheers.
How do you know I'm not married to Rachel Riley? ...and this particular bike is at the end of its press fleet life, I think I was the last person to ride it (after all the real journos had had their fun) before it gets released into the wild....
Given the cost of this machine, I think Ducati would have come up with a better looking solution to the design of their master cylinder reservoirs. They look akin to the receptacle one might use to provide a urine sample!
Why do they go from the designed ones on the Diavel to what looks like last minute add-ons on this Panigale?
Yeah it's bizarre that isn't it Ken - one of the first things I swapped out on my 899 - the red anodised Ducati Performance ones look great and should come as standard.....
Can you review more 125 like the mt-125 -Yamaha yzf-r125. Really enjoyed the Suzuki gsx 125 video keep up the good work !
Stay tuned - more 125s coming!
How does it compare in terms of comfort to the Thruxton.
Well I'm biased but if I'm truthful the Thruxton is probably more comfortable.....
Lovely bike and I am sure it is great to ride! Personally, I prefer the looks of the previous model. I am not a fan of rear seat cowl on the new V4 Panigale. It's too high IMO and I found it quite difficult to get my leg high enough when getting on one so as not to catch the paintwork. I'm sure its a better bike but it's definitely not as pretty as the previous model. Great review BTW...
Great vid as always.
Yes that parking up spot looks rather like a dogging venue ... 🙄
How do you know?
@@TheMissendenFlyer- now that world be telling ... woof woof 😉
When I am in the position to have two bikes, I will get it!
I wouldn't kick it out of bed for wobbly mirrors, but I might once I found out how much I had to pay..
So this Panigale, or the RSV4 RF, or anything else? Thanks!!
This!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks!!
Wouldn't that depend on gas miliage?
I wanted to move from IL4's back to twins so had a 1299 lined up as my next bike... but is the v4 twin like / different enough to IL4's?
Its a fabulous engine - I wouldn't hesitate to have one if I had the cash - one of the best bikes I've ever ridden....
Crossing Buckingham Golden Scissors ! :-) So British.... love it ! Fantastic bike that has 4 times the power of my Street Cup :-)