2019 Ducati Panigale V4 S Review | MC Commute
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- When it comes to superbikes, no one does it like Ducati. Case in point, its new red-hot (both figuratively and literally) Panigale V4 S. The Panigale V4 S is Ducati’s top-shelf, 190-hp road-legal sportbike that’s engineered for experienced riders who want to smear Pirelli rubber on the road and track.
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It’s powered by Ducati’s recently engineered 1,103cc V-4 engine that was engineered using its vast MotoGP experience. In typical Italian fashion, the engine delivers an exhilarating experience like few other motorcycles made. It’s paired to an electronics package that is near the top of the class with a re-engineered chassis that is vastly more competent than the 1199/1299. Together, it’s the ideal recipe for eating miles of asphalt.
But don’t take our word for it; watch the Ducati Panigale V4 S in action as we ride to the Motorcyclist office in Southern California. Make sure to leave us a comment and share with us your thoughts on Ducati’s latest and greatest sportbike.
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the only thing i learned: the words "panigale" and "commute" should not be in the same sentence.
Panigale wasn't really build to be used for commute.
Got my friend V4R for a month as a lease to test it and damn it didn't took me 2 weeks before I return the bugger back to him back ache,palm and shoulder hurt the most but its a fun bike.
Also its not highly suggested to use this bugger in time of summer due to its nut cracking hot wind blowing.
deck pogi how'd you get the bike as a lease? You mean temporary rental?
As a 1299 Panigale S owner, I can attest to the accuracy of this statement. The right thigh cooker will have you re-thinking your decision at the first stop light. Get it out on a race track, though...
@@deckpogi2680 if you aint hitting the canyon or the track getting something else instead my friend
@@fmartin59 my friend own one right away.
He's working in the Ducati as one of the designers.
I love Ducati's style and how they put the most power and character in their bikes. I did not truly appreciate a Ducati until I owned one.
What if Ducati was owned by the "Chineeze"
Then would you buy another one?😆
here's the same guy producing content dissing Ducati, saying they're exotic women, and honestly, I did not continue watching after that first few minutes and never clicked on this guy's content ever again. Now he's biting his own ass with this comment, and now there's another vid dissing MV Agusta smh.
how about this vs RSV v4 1100 ? power and character?
Ditto bro,I loved my old GSXR,fantastic bike but I bought an 1198 and until you've ridden one you'll never understand,people that mention other bikes just don't understand,although perhaps MV Augusta and Aprilia are similar,it's an Italian thing.👍✌😊
@@Suckmine10 Whats wrong with changing your mind about something? Remember when you though dating fat chicks was weird but now you're all into it
Nobody wants to admit it... but how good a bike looks IS important... and that bike looks GOOD. As much as I love wheelies... that little head wiggle when you land with the front pointed a bit off is definitely pucker inducing... steering damper is your friend.
Looks are subjective. I wish the new 2020 S1000RR remained asymmetrical. Now it looks like a Honda CBR 1000.
Yes looks are important but the thing that makes you smile whenever you ride the bike is the performance. You can make a shitty chinese 125cc bike look like a panigale but you’ll end up selling it because it doesn’t satisfy your need
Bikes are no less than works of functional art. Some examples just jump out at you.
Steering dampers are your friend indeed, but good ones. I found out the hard way how bad was the factory one on my TL1000R coming down from a 3rd gear wheelie. Never had a worst tank slapper in my life! Needless to say I ended up in ER :)
@@bloodysinner9456 as u said looks are subjective, but the new s1krr is far from a fireblade in looks. I don't know how it looks same to u.
Fuck me...what an excellent review. Clear sound, great view, crystal clear pictures, no background music, extremely informative and knowledgeable...so much so that I've finally decided to trade in my S1000RR and buy one of these tomorrow.
Thanks dude!
I have to say that you have done a fine job of explaining the pros and cons, differences between prior model years and overall just a great explanation of what you get from the v4s. Great job!
When I hear your trembling voice on that bumpy section I almost laughed. Reminds me why I sold my 916sp 10 years ago. Great bike but I'm too old for that.
From what I've been read and seeing it's actually a good every day bike and even an ok tourer, the worst thing though was how stupidly hot it gets.
Yea that trembling voice is HILARIOUS. Been chuckling at that the entire time
you can change the preset settings with the active suspensions
The bumpy ride segment was great.
Just wanted to congratulate you. The new MC Commute is fantastic. So much more professional and informative. Glad I gave it another try.
"That pesky Bavarian RR machine'.
Love the banter! 😂
Rattled the teeth outtta my head just by watching the video!
I ❤️ the info you shared about the 1299 electric suspension ✔️✔️✔️
Squidzilla here-^
@@VState60 someone's jealous 👆🏻
Best looking bike around. Italians know sexy lines on vehicles. I still love my 2018 SD 1290r. 177 horsepower/106 ft pds torque all within a 9500 window. Perfect for the street. Plus more comfortable riding position.
yada yada :) i want one too
This is what I wait for in my MC commute vids, a sharp analysis of the everyday man's bike that we can comfortably commute to work and squeeze a bit of fun out of without breaking the wallet to buy... It's the relevance that keeps me coming back nowadays 😕
Mad cause you can't afford one lol
@@GuitarGuy650 truthfully got no interest in sports, prefer a more relaxed posture in a naked.... Be a sad case if I couldn't afford one at nearly 50yrs old 😉
Jamie Kirkpatrick Im 30 and I absolutely agree with you i have a naked for everyday commuting to and fro. I also have a sports bike that i take on weekends for quick bursts and the rare track time i can do. The comfort level between the two are worlds apart, different needs for these different type of bikes, i love them but i know what kind of ride im in for if i choose my sport over the naked to commute......pain. I just wish my first bike was a naked and then i would have gone with a sport later down the road. Oh well live and learn.
People ask me all the time Why didn’t I buy the new BMW S1000rr or the Aprilia RSV 1100 Factory bike rather than Ducati V4. They think is because is a Ducati, just the name. My answer is. This Bike Has Everything I want, the power, the torque, it’s an All New bike full of awesome technology and all the goodies you can ask and Jesus Christ, it’s an eye candy, oh and yes it’s a Ducati.
So, it’s the top of the line Panigale, with one of the most sophisticated electronics packages on the market. This guys going to ride to work to formulate an opinion and provide a ‘review’ for the road; whilst turning off every single piece of electronics and switching the active suspension to fixed.... because: ‘wheelies, backing into corners, endo’s etc....”.
Just when you thought you’d heard it all, someone comes along and raises the bar 🤦🏻♂️
I bought this bike and I genuinely like the bike. The ride is much smother than the video portrays and the heat is excessive but no where near unbearable. In conclusion if you want and can afford it buy it you won’t be disappointed.
I never refer to a bike as "sexy", but this bike is sexy too the friggin' max!
8:59 - A Ducati that's good in turns? "I want one of those," said Mr. Dovizioso.
Should I get this or h2 for a first bike
nah man, every beginner rides the Turbo-Busa
If it's your first bike you really should start off with something cheap and easy like a BMW HP4 Race or something similar.
If your looking to die, then buy either of them as a first Bike, they'll both kill you just the same.
If you're looking to buy a Bike to learn on and, to practice skills, then you're miles better off on a 300cc.
@@ukcitizen1158 Hope youre joking? He will NEVER learn on a 300.. he has to start on a REAL BIKE!! i recommend Hoss Boss.. they make 6.2l LS2 V8 bikes with up to 500hp :)
@@motetotee i was looking into it but I dont like the letter R thats why I didnt go for h2r
Anywhere hot the heat coming off these is absolute torture, never ridden a bike that cook's you so much .
Love your enthusiasm on wheelies full power and traction off! I'm the same way.
From my point of view al those crossroads with stop, seem so annoying. In Europe we hardly see these things.
Do you put a roundabout where stop signs would be in america it is space efficient to put a stop signs where I live (Florida) we have a 4 lane intersection which is a 4 way stop and it works when it isn't rush hour and everyone is going to school
Illu Seigneur in Virginia we are getting roundabouts all over the place....right fun to navigate when you are on a motorcycle!
We have roundabouts all over in Upstate NY
In California, we need them because people only have a vague idea of how to drive...yet everyone has a car.
@@TheRealYaro fucking true... and when it rains ahhhhh... ppl in L.A. can merge the bay nope
Best review yet, Adam. Well articulated, good info delivery and organization; all while focused on riding safely to work. Great job!
Gorgeous bike. Best looking motorcycle by far right now.
What was so bad about the previous frame that you were talking about?
Good thing to hear the new V4 still sounds like it has half a dozen of loose parts moving around the oil sump. Even if it doesn't sound like a tambourine when idling.
Can't wait to see the 2021 V4 Multistrada...
Good review.
Only thing i would say is that the heat is actually not that bad. 1299 was way worse than this thing. Ive been riding mine during the summer down under and its not too bad as people make it out to be. But you have to know what your in for when you buy this.
I guess depending on your size i actually find it more comfortable than the s1000rr. Heaps of leg room on this thing especially if your a taller rider.
On the street its very tamed when you put it into other modes such as sport and street.
But yes agreed on the point that this at first a track bike. Thats where this things feels at home the most
Camrides, the riding position on my 4S is actually not all that bad. I have some room but it is still "tucked". I can only say if the 1299 was worse in the heat department that would be extreme, I find mine in summer San Diego to be nearly unbearable at stops, I've heard so many similar comments......
"What do you think of the engine noise? "
Proceeds to talk over throttle blips 🙃
Proceeds to do the worst moto vlog anyone ever listened to, ever. At a rate of 1/1000 viewers of the old crew on this channel!
Who in the fuck hired this worthless idiot?
Gotta love them California roadways!
seriously????....ah look here’s a corner!
Ducati always the best bikes!!
As an owner everything that Adam said here I agree with.....my experience is very similar to his...although at a much lower rider skill level! I laughed when I saw him struggling to find the kickstand lever, this is VERY common on the V4 and one of my favorite mods is to install an extended kickstand "bar", makes it much easier to find. Also, he mentioned the HEAT this thing puts out. I just would not recommend this machine as a commuter or "one and only" motorcycle. It is a second motorcycle, particularly if you're going to track or just keep it as a weekender. Even at that if you've been riding a while and need to stop at a light or stop sign, your gonna cook.
Neutral is very easy to find if you pop it in just as you're rolling up to a stop. A lot less easy to find when you are already stopped, my opinion.
Great job Adam, good insights.
Adam Waheed reviewing 1199 when released: "This bike is the most amazing thing ever." Adam Waheed reviewing V4:" This thing is amazing, not like that 1199 piece of trash."
Its a great bike, but the engine heat was a deal breaker for me.
This bike was made for Skyline Blvd and twisting mountain roads....!! Perfecto..!!
It has this great EC 2.0 dynamic suspension that is obviously rubbish for the street. I have no idea what you mean by calibration from Ohlins, the suspension is always going to be calibrated by the manufacturer based on the bike. It sounds like its set to track or sport by default, so a manual adjustment for preload etc.. based on the weight of the rider etc... is always going to give the best results and for street use, Road settings for suspension are not just more comfortable, but safer.
Loved the review! Such a rad bike. Keep up the awesome work! 🤘
Oh I wish WA and OR would allow lane splitting. Nice ride!
Utah recently legalized lane filtering, so I think we’re getting closer to where the rest of the world is at!
Just do it who cares if it’s legal or not. Soon it becomes legal when lots of people do it.
@@YA-ee9zf Yeah, that's been my strategy on the freeway. But people around here get real testy if you filter up at a light. They open their windows to yell at you and try to cut you off and honk their horns. Really rude! I split lanes for 40+ years in California. I miss that laid back acceptance. Oregon drivers are too righteous and indignant if someone gets ahead of them.
At the speed you are going, why do you disable traction control? I see this in all your videos, curious if thats just a personal pet peeve :-)
I'm confused... I thought and heard that Ducati largely fixed the heat issue from the 959/1299 Panigale bikes with the V4- I heard they redesigned the fairings and it fixed the excessive heat issues is that not true??
Phenomenal video!
This video sold me on the new S1000RR, now let´s wait for the next generation of Japanese bikes next year, oh wait, I also need the money.
Adam, for my first liter bike which would you suggest 19 CBR1000RR SP or this Ducati? I really love the way you review moto's :)
This ducati, if u have the money u will be so much happier on the ducati, Ducati is a family, u will love it
S1000r
@@brianglendenning1632 one day :)
Akuin CBR-1000-SP2 was my choice over this bike, i live in Miami and I didn’t make it 2- blocks and my legs/thighs were on fire, absolutely stupid amount of heat from this bike. Honda is a 100x better street bike !!!
I only make the suggestion because I bought my ‘17 s1000r as a very new rider, and its tractability and electronic aids let me grow in to it. The new RR is also tractable and better electronic aids. The v4S is a great bike and I am considering trading the s1000r on one, but the heat issue is significant (the s1000r gets hot but is tolerable).
Bike looks awesome and great power, no doubt but not great for hot weather areas. A friend of mine has one and we always laugh it's like riding an oven in the traffic... we call it the "COOKATI" hahahah.
That's funny! "Cookati" I'm going to use that!
Enjoy your in-depth knowledge on the bike your reviewing but also how the competition may or may not compete with it. I would love a SD 1290r review. Thx
Pulling wheelies on a 200+bhp bike by dumping the clutch... You've got the guts, but you got scared as hell, didn't you? LOL Beautiful bike and excellent video! Thanks a lot!
This or RSV 1100 ? just wich is most fun for adrealin kicks
Adam it looks like the commute on the R1 was better than the Duc. How do you feel which is better when comparing the 2 for street riding? Thanks
Please reply. My r1 was lost in the accident. Thinking about v4s
I am communiting on a panigale 1199s. Let me tell you v4s is comfy comared to the old panigales! And I still love my commute, every second of it. Life's too short to commute on a scooter!
How long and how often what is ur height and weight? Thinking of doing something similar, commuting on a more extreme bike when I eventually upgrade.
@@KERBROES I am 196cm and 99kg. Everyday, about 30 minutes in traffic in one direction. But I do regular trips up to couple hours (biggest on 1100km in 1 day). You only need to install the comfort seat from ducati, makes the seat more horizontal. Original will push you too much to the bars and tank. Also, this is one of the comfies supersports for a tall person - the bars are wide and comfy, lots of legroom. You will need higher windshield for speeds over 220kmh.
For long trips, vibration and noise are making the ride a bit unpleasant, but you need to be on the bike for quite a long time to notice that.
I did around 18.000km on my panigale. Cheers
@@bezetuba amazing! I am just a little shorter than you by like 6cm. Great to hear that super sports are so usable as a daily machine. Always want one but scared it would be too much but hey I already drive an evo 9 it cant be too bad haha.
Does this thing really put out unbearable heat? I’ve ridden Harleys my whole life so I’m curious how it compares.
Such an incredible machine.
Fascinating ! This is a bike
Amazing motorcycle, great review Adam!
How does this V4 from Ducati compare to the RSV4RR? Would love to see you do a commute on the base RSV4 some day!
Had a '19 R1M, and the Ohlins shocks were amazing! Made this track beast livable with on the road, other than it got hot if you didn't ride her hard. Thes V4 Panigale look beautiful though.
NOt sure that I like that he did a "street commuting" revie on track mode.... again, from my experience with the Ohlins supension on my Yammy, having that on Dynamic made potholes and bumps smooth. Also, From what I've been of Ducati's, Street and Sport mode have plenty of power, and they smooth out the throtle response...
Again, wish he woudl have tried the rider modes and talk about the difference, Not all of us are Macho gusy who need to have 100% of a superbike on the road...
I got to about the 10:40 mark and realized you were complaining about the ride and certain features ... but are riding race mode. It does have a street mode...correct? and you said commute... you doing wheelies to work? I'm very confused at this point
Should you put a bag of ice 🧊 on the sit when you get off the bike and get back on?
Nice video and sick bike.
Good luck and drive safe.
Panigales are a work of art.
Who bike is best in riding quality bmw s1000rr and v4s.
Should I add a remote starter and ground effect lights to Ducati v4s? Is that good or bad for the bike?
I got to get a ride on one of these I’d be so hyped the whole time it’d be hilarious 😆
Thanks for the review. I do like this new Duc v4 and considering a purchase very soon. One aspect of quality that confounds me: all of the v4's that I have seen have misaligned subframe on the left hand side. That is, the black subframe seems to be fractionally too wide where it meets the silver main frame. Why? The heat problem appears to cook the quickshifter and sidestand relays - 2 years and still not addressed by Ducati. And seems to be a consensus among track riders that front springs are too soft and the rear too hard. You didn't seem to find this for road use? Laughed when you hit the rough road mid commentary - "Jesus!". 😊
The first generation Panigales are still better looking.
First gen panis are "beautiful". Second gen (v4's) are "magnificent". BOTH are deserving of ultimate superlatives. I'm very glad the new generation retains the dna but takes the breed in a new direction. I still love the twins but really do appreciate the bullish v4's. And really, Ducati needed to evolve and this is a step in the right direction. Ducati has always had the stigma of unreliability and failure - real Ducatistis will deny this to their dying breath which is a large part of why such a premium brand has always been allowed to dish out substandard (although beautiful) products - and the v4 goes a way towards addressing this. Still a number of issues but, so far, good progress.
@@c138599 As an owner I can tell you that for the '18 model year there are something like 5-8 recalls that have been issued. It will be interesting to see if this number of recalls dwindles as the model line matures.
@@GareyCooperdude Hi Garey, I'm aware the recalls are fixed pre-delivery on the MY19 bikes. But there are other known issues that can arise - examples I know of: the extreme heat can cause the quick-shifter and the side-stand relay to fail, and I'm hearing the fuel tank still has another possible breather issue - and owners are still left to battle with these if and when they occur. I'm looking to order one late this year hoping that for the third year of production Ducati finally addresses all of the problems.
@@c138599 I've not heard of those particular issues, my own machine is pretty heavily modified in any case. However I am sure there are still some quirks (as people like to call them anyway) on these to be addressed.....and you would think that the 3rd year would be a good time to get into the Ducati V4 family. By the way there is a "naked" V4 coming that might be a good compromise for street/commute.
Definitely my dream bike
The acceleration of that bike is insane
Great honest review
I had this out on a Demo last week and man that Suspension makes your bones judder in either mode.
That was the deal breaker for me.....
If I was looking to buy it for Track use, I would've gone for it, but my commute is 26 miles each way and I'd rather get there and back without having to worry about arthritis later on in life.
Sexy machine though!
Don't know what you did buy but totally agree it's not a commuter machine. It is truly a second motorcycle for some one who can afford the luxury.
Good to know about this dream scream machine thanks. Is it normal to not feel rear tire slide?
Damn, the panigale is so pretty. She is beautiful and I love her so much, just like my R3.
Alright, I have serious wood for this bike.
I'll never be able to afford one but I can dream.
Looks good Boss !!
What kind of gloves are those please? I like them.
"Its a bike that's going to turn a lot of wrench's"
Ducati did a good job with the exhaust sound tuning: so loud, I almost couldn't hear Adam's commentary!
Does that distinctive clickety-clackety sound at idle come from the desmodronic valves?
laughingstalk it is from the dry clutch. It clatters like that unless you pull in the clutch.
@@HeyAddieImTojo that was my second guess
HeyAddieImTojo it’s the valves. This bike doesn’t have a dry clutch
kierre35 , oh, then i stand corrected. Thought all top of the line ducatis still used dry clutch.
When you have it in race mode the rear abs is turned off and she backs it in just fine 🙂
Use scotch brite on Ducati.. Nice advice
Has ducati modified their red over the years or is it the same color?
(I'm a no motocyclist noob)
When you said ''throttle respons adjustment'' feature, I was thinking... why not have a digital equalizer panel so users can adjust anything to their wishes (at least as an optionality)? Maybe just rambling but I can imagine some like to tweak it on several levels and these ''modern'' fabric settings prohibit that free tweaking of the motorcycles.
Any discussion on the dozens of recalls over the last year?
To my knowledge for my model year '18 there have been something like 8 recalls. Some are relatively serious but many are small tweaks. That IS a lot, granted. I don't want to make excuses for them but it was the first model year and I guess we can allow some new release issues. But, can't argue that 5-8 recalls is quite a lot.
@Motorcyclist
I’m a little confused as to how the transmission rated... B-/C+
I didn’t hear anything in this review that would lead me to think the transmission would rate so poorly?!? Please share.?!?
A couple of suggestions on the Commute Reviews: We don't need to hear all the specifications, we can read that from written reviews or the manufacturers website. What I want to hear is more of how it feels to ride, how it compares to other bikes, how well the controls work, if you could ride it daily etc, things you can't really tell from a short demo ride. (and some bikes you cannot get a demo ride on). Also, 29 minutes is a long time to commit to a video, a little editing would make it more watchable and I would watch more of your videos.
+1. Also try not ramble so much where u keep going back to stuff you already discussed.
It must be the desmodromic valves that create all the heat. Other manufacturers have v-engines and L-engines but ducatis are always so hot. I have watched dozens of ducati reviews and thats a constant theme. It has to be the valvetrain. But ducati will not abandon desmodromic valves no matter what. Personally i rather have a monster or streetfighter than this bike. In fact i plan on buying a monster this year. But if i was wealthy and did track days often i would buy this bike.
Is there a good piece of road out there?
Sick AF
Was that a power wheelie?
You mentioned top of the line and the pinnacle of what Ducati has to offer, but then where does the V4R stand?
CVI.LaNell_ if I am correct, V4R is under 1000cc and is not street legal
I still love my 1299S over the V4S....and yes I did consider buying the V4S and even test rode one.
FirebladePilot why?
I think that sideway at 15:32 should have been addressed, was it something on the road, bike or rider error!!
Which neighborhood he rides in?
bought few crypto collectibles two montsh ago for 2K.. worth 35 now lmao... should I get Penigale or SFV4S... lol I'm soo hooked on getting my first transport vehicle, first motor, and it being such a monster of motors, can't wait SHOULD'NT WAIT.
Nice review. Beautiful bike but way too much of everything for me. Much prefer the V2 for road use.
Adjust the suspension to street settings, the bike actually rides amazing.
Dorian W. Right. When I first got my 959 the stock settings were garbage for my weight and riding. Did some tuning over the first month and the bike transformed. It’s now supple and and much more controllable
Such a sexy bike. I love bikes, but I would never buy one for over $15000.
I'm doing it I'm getting one
If the heat generated by the V4 Pani is worse than my 1299, it must be truly awful. I burned my leg through my jeans on the subframe on one of my first rides. As he mentioned though on cool mornings, the heat is actually quite nice down under 50F on the Interstate.
Awesome bike
This is my dads dream bike
Most interesting was the sound this thing was making at idle as the motor warmed up. Almost gutteral.
I think you have to watch Michael Rutter on a plod round the TT to see what the bike is capable of. Not seen anyone push a bike to its limits like the TT Boys.
Why not use the soft plush suspension setting for the slow bumpy street ride?!
There is no such setting on the Bike.
@@ukcitizen1158 - I have a V4S Corse and it for sure has a very soft setting
@@ukcitizen1158 There are multiple settings on the electronic side and you can adjust the manual to be softer as well. On broken back roads here in San Diego the plush works quite well.....