Other artists are mad that he improved rather than them. Alongside say he could only get improvements this quickly because he is rich and have more time than others
I don't really care if he becomes an artist, innovative or not. I remember he was involved in some altright stuff racism and white supremacy. But my quick research has not surfaced any information never than 2021 and I don't know how reliable the information are. But that's the reason I'd take him as a person with caution. I believe in people learning and changing but accountability needs to be shown.
I like that pewdiepie did these videos because it shows a bit of how the art path looks like to a lot of people. With mistakes, setbacks and all. I found myself smiling many times watching his videos and the reactions.
I don't understand how anyone is mad he made progress after drawing every day for a year. After seeing people lose their marbles over it, I thought he'd reached a pro level of drawing. The result is what I'd expect of anyone after drawing for say an hour a day for a year, what would really be shocking would be if he didn't improve at all.
It’s because he improved more in a year than most do in 5. It took me nearly ten to get relatively confident with my art and I still feel like I can’t do what he does sometimes.
@tarabooartarmy3654 were you drawing the same face endlessly, or rather learning to be a more well-rounded artist and learn technique, different subjects, styles, mediums etc? If it was the latter, then it would definitely take longer! Nothing to feel down about at all. I'm sure overall you've learned way more than Felix. 💖
@ I was definitely trying different mediums, different styles, different subjects. I never thought of it that way, but you’re right. I haven’t perfected one thing but I’ve learned a wide variety of techniques. Thank you. 😊
I think what we are actually subconsciously impressed by more than anything art related is his dedication and work ethic. That's where he shines and that's what's going to make him a pro if he has that goal in mind. He WILL continue, and he WILL find all the wrong things in his approach to learning, be that what you mentioned in this video.
I kinda agree with Pewdiepie on the age thing. I drew as a teenager but it wasn't really going anywhere but now as an adult I'm able to reflect on my mistakes and figure out what I need to practice and how way better. Maybe motor skills are a factor that's easier to learn when you're young but I don't think it's the most relevant.
While I think he couldve progressed faster with deliberate practice, the chance of him burning out on deliberate practice is unfortunately also a lot higher. A got mix is needed of both
I think it’s wrong to put down rich people when they do something productive and fulfilling with their time and privilege. They could be doing something much worse
If you wanna improve; As a kid you're not thinking about strategy you just love to draw and you still get frustrated when it doesn't look right but the time constraints aren't there like they are as an adult. Adults are just overall much more time poor and can't afford the luxury of sitting for hours on end improving through practice. So yes strategy is good but that is usually an adult observation. I think that also comes down to how bad you want it but I'm talking generally. I came back to my art in my 40's and noticed a lot of the skills were still there, a little shaky but they had actually grown with me. I'd love to know what level I'd be if I had stayed with it throughout my 20's and 30's. Lesson, don't shelf it. If you love your art keep that spark alive. You won't feel like you're always starting over...Some great lessons in this video.
5:35 I actually agree with Pewds about not improving much if doing it when younger. I know there are a lot of people who are evidence that if you start young you are amazing by time you're older, but if he's anything like me, it might not be so. For instance, all the way up until I was 25, if I read a book, I could come back to that book a year, two years later, and I would recognize my lack of comprehension from before. I'm not saying that I didn't pick up every little nuance, I mean there were big parts of the book, of conversations, of the exposition, that I flat out _didn't comprehend._ Much of the book would be a mystery to me, it's just strong writing and characterization that kept me going. Only at around 25 did I get to a place where the first read felt complete, and subsequent reads were bonuses rather than entirely new ventures of comprehension. My work ethic, my comprehension, my willingness to learn, my humility have all increased as I've aged. I genuinely don't think there is a feasible set of circumstances in which I could have been taught to write (in my case) at 12 and anything would have stuck.
I believe some of the hype is people who aren't able to draw, hoping to reach praiseworthy abilities in a year by themself. Your realistic take on it with professional eyes match my expectations, but does crush some of my naive hope. I did stop and now want to pick it up again but where the heck do i even begin in the jungle of learning possibilities available today? Your mentioning of different techniques as separate sets of skills made me realize i need to figure out what/how i want to create in order to pick a learning method, but how do i strategize something unknown? and is my chosen method actually good? am i deliberate enough? those doubtful thoughts are whats killing my drive to practice and move forward, a "dummy's guide to draw i 365 days" sounds like exactly what I need.
I've been drawing for a long time and Id say I'm pretty good at this point. I think drawing for fun like pewdiepie did here is the best thing to do as a beginner. Most of us started drawing as children and developed a positive psychological connection to art through play. You can't skip that step or you won't really go far. The child like play is the most important thing to do as beginner. As you keep going eventually you will find weak points and start practicing more deliberately.
Yeah, I'm struggling to find balance in this right now. I've practiced so much that I ended up forgetting why I wanted to do art in the first place and the fun is gone. And you could easily fall in that trap if you go in with the mindset that you always have to study, because you're not good enough yet to do that piece. You have to do the fun stuff too. And now I'm trying to figure out what the right amount of practice is. I'm starting to think maybe the biggest amount of your art-doing should be fun and explorative. And then like 10-20 percent practice.
@bestofrock945 the way I do it is like this... I attempt to make an art piece from start to finish. Then I look for all the mistakes I had in that piece and I practice those things specifically. Then I rinse repeat.
That was a thoughtful and considerate video. True talk though. I think as a self-taught artist it’s easy to get lost in styles and methods rather than focusing on the basics light/shadow, simple forms and it’s manipulation and learning to see and create in shapes…. And that for each medium. Anyway it’s a individual path and challenging for everyone, nonetheless that’s good ❤ Thanks for the video. Like that format.
Everyone stops. This exactly, and that's the tragedy. As a 36 year old comic book artist/cartoonist/painter the only thing separating my skill level from others is that I never stopped when I was a kid. Every kid loves to draw and paint, but at a certain point the ego gets involved and they weigh the results over the process. If the result looks 'bad', you say I'm no good and don't go on with it. I always think of Albert Camus when he said that making art is the truest way to escape the Absurd, the one way to escape a meaningless cosmos where you're destined to push that boulder up a hill like Sisyphus again and again until you expire one day. But its very unfortunate that most people stop creating. It does so much for you as a person to have something you enjoy, and creating something is the pinnacle of that. With your comments on Pewdiepie I was nodding in agreement with everything you said, but I was also legitimately enjoying that he has found that child joy of just making some art for himself. That's really awesome, and it's real inspiring!
Great video! I’m a little over a year into traditional drawing and I would say that yeah I have definitely made more progress than pewdiepie. When I started, my first instinct was to find and learn the art fundmentals which lots of beginners dont learn for literally years! I also did gesture drawing for the first few months, and I think all beginners should start with gesture. I feel like you get better at so many things when practicing gesture like mark making, creating form, human proportions, and gesture itself of course which is so important to make good drawings! My thoughts on talent are that it mostly aligns with taste, rather than any drawing ability. Of course a person’s taste can develop over time, but some people just have more of it I think, and it’s your taste that gives a person’s drawing or painting their personal style.
Loved hearing your thoughts on this and analysis of his improvements, where he's gone wrong, etc. I would definitely watch a 30 day painting mentorship (even if it's not w/Pew)!
I never understood the controversy. It just sounds like internet artists are hurt because a famous guy with "zero talent" improved faster than they did. I think Alpay's praises and criticisms were all warranted. What pewdiepie was showcasing consistent practice in one style. Drawing every single day. I'm sure most amateur don't even do this. I don't, and I should be way more consistent if I want to improve in the subjects I draw and paint. What he was able to do was not game changing nor extremely impressive. The most impressive thing being how motivated he was (I watch his videos and he has talked about how he has that kind of mindset in general. He's a very goal driven guy, and as a casual fan, I was proud of him). That's incredibly inspiring and admirable, and I think us amateur should take a page from that. But like Alpay said, you have to do it with clear intention and understanding.
I completely agree with you, I really wish he could have transitioned to a different medium rather than digital. Hearing the fact that people were apparently jealous of his journey was quite baffling to me. It's such an achievement to persevere and find the joy in art but, I do hope Felix takes you up on that offer to teach him.
Twitter is a strange place, people who have given up or spent years on art without much progress were jealous of Felix & Made every excuse they could: He's rich, he has infinite time etc etc (taking away the fact that he has a toddler, if we could find the time to watch a 30 minute video, we can find the time to draw 30 minutes)
I seem progress from other artists in 1 year and their progress is astounding. But what it makes a difference for them is that they study smart, analyze their mistakes, re do it, do studies and they’re consistent like hell. That last thing I think is the thing that most artist don’t do, because the guys that don’t stop drawing while they try to improve are the ones that become professionals really fast and become masters. I really admire the consistent behavior they have and it only makes me wanna draw more (there was one guy that started showing his drawing books he did in one year and they were fucking endless).
What Pewdiepie meant with him being older and that working to his advantage is that when you are older, you have more discipline. The discipline to draw daily comes easier when you are older.
I would love to see that challenge taken up. "60 days to become a painter." Great points you make and I too am glad to see an 'influencer' actually draw and share their start with people, to get over the embarrassment of it not being perfect. I have taught a few people to draw and after a week they start to understand that practice is the key. The challenge, even for me, is to keep trying things out and not to fall into a habit leading to a comfort zone that blocks progress. This is why I'm a crap painter - bad habits, lack of focus and negative feedback loop.
Interesting to hear your take. First time I’ve heard of PewDiePie so I had no preconceived opinions. I kinda feel like it would have been better for him to finish the year showcasing a traditional style drawing too. I create both traditional and digital art and for me I find the traditional is, in a way, easier to get a more satisfying piece. Although I really limit myself when creating digitally by not using shortcuts and effects. My most ‘cheater’ part is working in layers. I love watching your oil painting projects and while I paint with acrylics, my goal is to play with some oil painting. Awesome video and cheers.
I personally think the people who got mad at him are people who aren’t just jealous at his art progress but his work ethic. Many artist who say they want to get good don’t actually put in the full effort to get better. They don’t make the sacrifices necessary. Sometimes you’ll have to sacrifice sleep or spending time with friends/family to practice your art. I was able to improve my art with the right teachers and from my own research and wanting to get better. I had never really tried watercolors and had only painted with gouache and acrylics before but with tutorials and finding things that I found interesting as subjects I was able to grow. I think some of these artist are falling into a victim mentality.
Alpay, you mention teaching artists, i was curious if this is something you still do online? I think your art is breathtaking and some lessons from you would be incredible
I do agree with you and think that maybe you could have gone more in depth about what exactly he could have done differently in his approach? Or maybe a future video idea :) I do "traditional" and digital art myself, so it's cool to see that he tried both but I would have loved to see him paint as well! + his progress "slowing down" especially once he bought the ipad was very expected as it is a completely new medium. Even if it seems easier as it has so many tools like liquify, millions of brushes and so on, it takes quite some time to actually know how to use them and enhance the artwork rather than rely on them.
I definitely understand where you come from with starting out with physical media first to learn the skills, muscle memory, etc Buuuutt I feel like maybe you hit a bit too down on digital art. I feel it's a lot harder than traditional, especially if are trying to make digital work mimic it. And just because people can adjust the work easier as they go shouldn't be seen as a bad thing, because people have those same issues in real life too. Also for a lot of people it's a cost and space factor, and digital will always be better for that. I don't have the space or time to do large physical media like you. The biggest point to remember with PewDiePie in this entire video though, is he has a family that he has to balance with these creative endeavors. He said in one of the earlier videos he didn't have much time in that day to practice because he's a new father, with a baby to raise with his wife. Would he have probably made more progress if he had found books and resources first? Oh yeah definitely! But, it probably didn't come into his head because he hasn't had as much time to actually focus on this.
I haven't seen any controversy aside from people covering twitter. Which is always drama filled. I think it's cool what he's doin and there is something to learn from it.
Finally someone said something true about this video, PewDiePie is doing something good, it is admirable, practice is what makes the difference, but he doesn't think like a pro in my opinion. Also, he'd better start with the fundementals, if he really wanted to become a professional.
I see the real talent in form of the capacity of sticking to it, even when not reaching your own expectations and be over that feeling of "I suck". I personally don't have it.
PewDiePie is right about a lot of things here. You won’t find many professional artists talking about talent, because talent is largely loving something enough to do it long enough that you get good at it. He definitely would’ve done better if he had some formal guidance but he did do quite a bit by himself. The downside is when you’re trying to teach yourself you don’t really see things with a dispassionate and educated eye. Also, I think manga does a lot of damage to young artists because they learn to draw in a overly stylized and simplified manner without actually learning the complexities of shape and design, etc... and never get past that. "But I want to draw manga"... You'll do it better if you have strong fundamentals.
For a person who started drawing solo out of the blue, I think it's great progress-at least until the iPad came into the game 😅. For deliberate progress, it takes having a teacher beside you to tell you the next step objectively and in time, instead of jumping from one drawing to another. And I think that's the bigger point: being humble enough to recognize when you need help from others, even in a hobby, if you want to get better.
I understand what he means but easier when you are an adult. I started drawing/painting 2 years ago and I am 40 now. I never had the patients to keep it up when I was younger but now being older, it's easier for me to sit for a few hours and just paint. I don't either think his development is surprising. Having done something similar. I just never went the digital way🤣 I went to oil paint instead. That's the most fun thing out there so I dont want to start digital because it will take time from my oilpainting.
I don't know PewDiePie I picked up painting for the first time this year after having success with pastel pencils and creating exceptional portraits in my twenties and early thirties. I'm also a musician so that practice is a big part of my life but now that I am retired and finally a little less crazy with my physical energy, I can sit still and relax and paint. I started my latest composition by using a projector to outline a portrait of Jesus by Ron D Cianni that I have in my home. I changed Jesus' face and arm, though, to convey a welcoming look. I wanted to create what I had in my mind for one section of the artwork depicting the heavenlies, so I came here on UA-cam and watched so many tutorials on depth and contrast and clouds and sky. I finally believe I have that concept that i wanted figured out In the meantime, I was really appreciating you because you draw portraits, and I love the expression of the eyes in portraits. I only did portraits with color pastel pencils in my past. I knew I wanted to paint again after decorating a couple of rain barrels with waterproof craft paint on my property here in Kentucky. I really appreciate your work and your talent. You are my favorite because of your skill, which I know come from so much experience. Your personality is also very calm and confident, and that is relaxing. It was really helpful to see you redo a drawing you did 10 years ago and look at the amazing excellence in your work transforming that same portrait to perfection. Thanks again. I have always believed I can accomplish anything that I'm passionate about. I am in agreement with you that I believe anybody can learn anything if they discipline themselves and are deliberate about it like you say. Thank you. I believe this is the first time I've commented after watching you.
Hello Perhaps, some folks are upset. May e they are upset at another human man. This human man achieving a self induced sense of art. While this has happened for him. It maybe trivializes the craft or artisan. Another very clear dichotomy drawn is that of artificial intelligence. Artist can now not only compete with veryy fast data thiefrs.... But also now. per Di Pie. F..................k. Okay Thanks. Good luck
when i try to teach people i also discourage them from immediately jumping to digital art... its fun, more forgiving, and provided many tools for so much less money. but... its kind of like taking a massive short cut and its not good for habit formation at all. it doesnt mean digital art is bad !! but its not good for learning. you must learn the rules before you can skillfully and intentionally break them.
When you state "This is not a representation of what one year of practice actually is," I disagree. I think that is quite a discouraging statement for beginner artists. He is still improving by drawing what he sees from a reference, judging distances and proportion, working on line quality, and most importantly, drawing consistently. Of course once he learns the fundamentals he will improve drastically. But saying one needs to start with focused study from the beginning in order to improve at all may be too much for new artists, who may feel overwhelmed and out of their depth. New artists should feel free and excited to draw, not told that what they're doing isn't progress.
There is a massive amount of jealous cope in this comment section. A guy practiced something and got good and all the lazy people with excuses couldn’t handle it. Massive kek
I find it interesting that this is all measuring how well he can or can't draw in a clearly manga style. Which I have a lot of affection for, but is more like a specific shorthand for more representational, classic skills. Manga doesn't teach you to really see and measure forms in the traditional way. It's more like symbols for features that relies more on memorization. I would wager he couldn't draw a realistic nose at all given that he hasn't really been focusing on SEEING real form and volume.
I would love to start from zero and practice deliberately to get better. Do you have training books or video training that would help someone know what to work on to get better?
I never understood the controversy about this either, other than maybe people who made a definite decision to pursue art as a profession not having as measurable a rate of apparent growth and development during a specified period of time in contrast to someone who just made the choice on a whim. Didn't really impact me having already spent over 40 years as a professional artist. My biggest "eyebrow raise" was just that he didn't actually become an artist he simply learned how to cartoon. There is a huge gap of study, knowledge and practice between an individual like Michelangelo and a UA-cam influencer like PewdiePie. And I definitely agree someone should have taken away that tablet, 😉it can lead to a lot of bad habits. That said, having worked digitally since 1987 while still working the old fashioned way I still prefer the feel of paper and pencil and the feel of clay to that of stylus and tablet. I'm old now and retired and the art world is a different place.
I also tried drawing with an ipad but it kinda feels off. Its like I feel more to have achieved something, if it is physically in front of me. So yeah, digital might be helping, but not necessarily.
I think he is missing feedback, pewdiepie needs a teacher, maybe with just say, 12 sessions of 1 hour classes, so once a week, for 3 months. he would get corrected way faster than a video every 100 days, where most of the comments are: "ow you are so talented", "keep up the wood gork" or hate: "you should stick to minecraft videos". I know that because I went to just 1 month of human figure drawing, taught by a phd candidate, it's just stuff he does to pay for Uni, and DAMN! my stuff was not that bad, but it was lazy, and arrogant, real crap. I'm much better now.
"He's gone over to the dark side" lmaoo I kid you not that's my exact reaction whenever I see someone going from traditional art to digital. An art youtuber I like tried digital art the other day and I commented "Oh no, we lost another one, guys."
The lie of talent is the worst thing ever that happened to art imho, because it‘s a lame excuse for people to stop persuing art, when the first bump in the learning curve appears. Weirdly enough, it‘s different with anything else.
The thing is that he didn’t realize that he was actually jumping techniques all the time without getting really good at anything. Pencil/pen is one thing, then proportions are another, then anatomy is another, then a different pen is another, then digital painting is another and so on and so on. So what seemed a huge improvement overall was just a relatively minor improvement in each of those things. If he just started in digital he could have gotten to his current level quite fast, because most of it is just mastering digital painting tools. So jumping techniques keeps focus off of getting really good at one thing and that is what he should have done. Stuck to one technique at a time until he got so good he could continue to the next. I studied industrial design and one of the things you’re taught there is - you can draw something that looks like it makes sense, but you can’t physically make it. It’s the same with digital painting - it can mask a lot of bad techniques with nice glows, transitions and effects. It looks nice visually but because it’s “manga” you can fake proportions/anatomy, but that doesn’t mean you know proportions or anatomy. It just means you know how to fake it, which is not even close to being the same.
He basically drew the same cartoon from his imagination over and over for a year,; a chimpanzee repeating the same action over and over would show improvement after a year. A large part of drawing is training your eye to see, and to make judgements about what you see, and you need to draw from life to do that.
That's why I follow your channel. You are an amazing painter 🎨. I can sketch, but painting and sculpting are things I want to learn. I'm practicing with pen because I want to one day do my own graphic art novel for adults 18 and above.
You're right, he's used his platform to showcase the myth of talent versus skill. Did the same project 365 at the start of lockdown from ground zero. Always believed you had to be born with it until I proved myself wrong.
You are absolutely bitter. He used his platform to promote drawing and practice, and you’re jealous that you don’t see the same level of improvement. This is pathetic
Let's face it, if he posted his art on one of the forums anonymously (he should make a video where he actually does that), he would get maybe 2 or 3 comments, none of them overly complementary. His style and standard of work is dime a dozen on deviantart. He is getting so much credit because of who he is, not because of the standard of his work. imo.
@@itzapanda1780 Yes but as this video explains, it doesn't really lead to improvement. This generic manga copying teaches very little about form, shape, value, perspective, drawing, color theory composition, anatomy, design etc. etc. His manga drawings would all benefit from studying these foundations too. More people should point this out to him. If he wants to get good at art he's not going about the best way.
As this video explains, it doesn't really lead to improvement. This generic manga copying teaches very little about form, shape, value, perspective, drawing, color theory composition, anatomy, design etc. etc. His manga drawings would all benefit from studying these foundations too. More people should point this out to him. If he wants to get good at art he's not going about the best way.
You really are pathetic. A guy picked up a pen and drew for enjoyment. And you’re angry about it. You sound like you haven’t progressed in your life. Stop being so bitter
@@mthokozisimasondo9313 Well if he wants to get to the same level of say.. a Joe Mad, who is also Manga and Anime influenced, and also not academically trained.. and draws traditionally, a very long time. And I'm sure there are better Manga artists I could name.
I do not see any good drawning here ... anime? For year of drawning doll thats nothing. Also did he use reference picture of anime or not? I bet he did and then his result even less impressive. There elefant painting more creative puctures and he use no reference pics to copy.
He's still learning how to draw. Just because it's manga style doesn't discount it as a way to get started. Lots of people start out drawing manga style as kids/teens and are doing just fine. We shouldn't discourage people for actually putting in the work and drawing what they like.
@KatieKat10 nobody discourage him or kids who wants to draw. Its just just MY opinion. There lots of great videos how to learn to draw or paint. Really good ones and they would be helpfull for those who wants to learn art. I bet after year of practices they would have great result. You have your opinion , i have mine.
What’s the controversy here?
Other artists are mad that he improved rather than them. Alongside say he could only get improvements this quickly because he is rich and have more time than others
@@Radientzone345makes no sense
I don't really care if he becomes an artist, innovative or not.
I remember he was involved in some altright stuff racism and white supremacy. But my quick research has not surfaced any information never than 2021 and I don't know how reliable the information are.
But that's the reason I'd take him as a person with caution. I believe in people learning and changing but accountability needs to be shown.
@@Nattroka Seriously?
The controversy is all fabricated by media.
I like that pewdiepie did these videos because it shows a bit of how the art path looks like to a lot of people. With mistakes, setbacks and all. I found myself smiling many times watching his videos and the reactions.
Alpay please, could you make us a deliberate practice video ? For all the never ending beginner level out there , it will be great 🙏🏼🎨
Would love to see a 60 day painting challenge collaboration between the two of you!
His progress would blow up the art world… guaranteed 😁
True but youd destroy him youre in the top 0.1%
@@AlpayEfeyeah! Offer him a painting mentorship or something I’d love to see a collab! 👀
I don't understand how anyone is mad he made progress after drawing every day for a year. After seeing people lose their marbles over it, I thought he'd reached a pro level of drawing. The result is what I'd expect of anyone after drawing for say an hour a day for a year, what would really be shocking would be if he didn't improve at all.
It’s because he improved more in a year than most do in 5. It took me nearly ten to get relatively confident with my art and I still feel like I can’t do what he does sometimes.
@tarabooartarmy3654 were you drawing the same face endlessly, or rather learning to be a more well-rounded artist and learn technique, different subjects, styles, mediums etc? If it was the latter, then it would definitely take longer! Nothing to feel down about at all. I'm sure overall you've learned way more than Felix. 💖
@ I was definitely trying different mediums, different styles, different subjects. I never thought of it that way, but you’re right. I haven’t perfected one thing but I’ve learned a wide variety of techniques. Thank you. 😊
I think what we are actually subconsciously impressed by more than anything art related is his dedication and work ethic. That's where he shines and that's what's going to make him a pro if he has that goal in mind. He WILL continue, and he WILL find all the wrong things in his approach to learning, be that what you mentioned in this video.
I kinda agree with Pewdiepie on the age thing. I drew as a teenager but it wasn't really going anywhere but now as an adult I'm able to reflect on my mistakes and figure out what I need to practice and how way better. Maybe motor skills are a factor that's easier to learn when you're young but I don't think it's the most relevant.
I made a very similar, albeit more verbose, comment.
While I think he couldve progressed faster with deliberate practice, the chance of him burning out on deliberate practice is unfortunately also a lot higher. A got mix is needed of both
Depending on the goal for sure
the way u give advice.. u motivating to train more. and you're right "be strategical and deliberate about it"
To be consistent in art is the important thing
fun to see you react on videos. nice format, fun to watch!
Happy to hear that 😄
For me the controversy was that there are people jealous that he can sit and draw all he wants, without having to worry about money issues.
I think it’s wrong to put down rich people when they do something productive and fulfilling with their time and privilege. They could be doing something much worse
@@asdabir There were literally comments like "it's not fair, he has money so he doesn't have to worry about any other thing than drawing."
Loved hearing your thoughts and perspective on this! I agree that he shouldn’t have gone to digital art just yet.
Man I'm glad you brought up the issue with digital art. It definitely is not the same as traditional, erm....analog art, lol.
If you wanna improve; As a kid you're not thinking about strategy you just love to draw and you still get frustrated when it doesn't look right but the time constraints aren't there like they are as an adult. Adults are just overall much more time poor and can't afford the luxury of sitting for hours on end improving through practice. So yes strategy is good but that is usually an adult observation. I think that also comes down to how bad you want it but I'm talking generally. I came back to my art in my 40's and noticed a lot of the skills were still there, a little shaky but they had actually grown with me. I'd love to know what level I'd be if I had stayed with it throughout my 20's and 30's. Lesson, don't shelf it. If you love your art keep that spark alive. You won't feel like you're always starting over...Some great lessons in this video.
Big fan of you and your work ❤
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5:35
I actually agree with Pewds about not improving much if doing it when younger. I know there are a lot of people who are evidence that if you start young you are amazing by time you're older, but if he's anything like me, it might not be so.
For instance, all the way up until I was 25, if I read a book, I could come back to that book a year, two years later, and I would recognize my lack of comprehension from before. I'm not saying that I didn't pick up every little nuance, I mean there were big parts of the book, of conversations, of the exposition, that I flat out _didn't comprehend._ Much of the book would be a mystery to me, it's just strong writing and characterization that kept me going.
Only at around 25 did I get to a place where the first read felt complete, and subsequent reads were bonuses rather than entirely new ventures of comprehension.
My work ethic, my comprehension, my willingness to learn, my humility have all increased as I've aged. I genuinely don't think there is a feasible set of circumstances in which I could have been taught to write (in my case) at 12 and anything would have stuck.
I believe some of the hype is people who aren't able to draw, hoping to reach praiseworthy abilities in a year by themself.
Your realistic take on it with professional eyes match my expectations, but does crush some of my naive hope.
I did stop and now want to pick it up again but where the heck do i even begin in the jungle of learning possibilities available today?
Your mentioning of different techniques as separate sets of skills made me realize i need to figure out what/how i want to create in order to pick a learning method, but how do i strategize something unknown? and is my chosen method actually good? am i deliberate enough? those doubtful thoughts are whats killing my drive to practice and move forward, a "dummy's guide to draw i 365 days" sounds like exactly what I need.
I've been drawing for a long time and Id say I'm pretty good at this point. I think drawing for fun like pewdiepie did here is the best thing to do as a beginner. Most of us started drawing as children and developed a positive psychological connection to art through play. You can't skip that step or you won't really go far. The child like play is the most important thing to do as beginner. As you keep going eventually you will find weak points and start practicing more deliberately.
Yeah, I'm struggling to find balance in this right now. I've practiced so much that I ended up forgetting why I wanted to do art in the first place and the fun is gone. And you could easily fall in that trap if you go in with the mindset that you always have to study, because you're not good enough yet to do that piece. You have to do the fun stuff too. And now I'm trying to figure out what the right amount of practice is. I'm starting to think maybe the biggest amount of your art-doing should be fun and explorative. And then like 10-20 percent practice.
@bestofrock945 the way I do it is like this... I attempt to make an art piece from start to finish. Then I look for all the mistakes I had in that piece and I practice those things specifically. Then I rinse repeat.
A course or a video explaining how can you improve with deliberate practice for being a painter would be 💥💥
What people don’t relies, Is he’s not doing this to become an artist and make a living off it. He wanted to have fun doing something new
That was a thoughtful and considerate video. True talk though.
I think as a self-taught artist it’s easy to get lost in styles and methods rather than focusing on the basics light/shadow, simple forms and it’s manipulation and learning to see and create in shapes…. And that for each medium.
Anyway it’s a individual path and challenging for everyone, nonetheless that’s good ❤
Thanks for the video. Like that format.
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Fun to watch and really love your down to earth way of explaining things. Ty
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Everyone stops. This exactly, and that's the tragedy. As a 36 year old comic book artist/cartoonist/painter the only thing separating my skill level from others is that I never stopped when I was a kid. Every kid loves to draw and paint, but at a certain point the ego gets involved and they weigh the results over the process. If the result looks 'bad', you say I'm no good and don't go on with it. I always think of Albert Camus when he said that making art is the truest way to escape the Absurd, the one way to escape a meaningless cosmos where you're destined to push that boulder up a hill like Sisyphus again and again until you expire one day. But its very unfortunate that most people stop creating. It does so much for you as a person to have something you enjoy, and creating something is the pinnacle of that. With your comments on Pewdiepie I was nodding in agreement with everything you said, but I was also legitimately enjoying that he has found that child joy of just making some art for himself. That's really awesome, and it's real inspiring!
Great video! I’m a little over a year into traditional drawing and I would say that yeah I have definitely made more progress than pewdiepie. When I started, my first instinct was to find and learn the art fundmentals which lots of beginners dont learn for literally years!
I also did gesture drawing for the first few months, and I think all beginners should start with gesture. I feel like you get better at so many things when practicing gesture like mark making, creating form, human proportions, and gesture itself of course which is so important to make good drawings!
My thoughts on talent are that it mostly aligns with taste, rather than any drawing ability. Of course a person’s taste can develop over time, but some people just have more of it I think, and it’s your taste that gives a person’s drawing or painting their personal style.
Love your work!
Greetings from Brazil!
The dig at the TikTok artists was pretty funny
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Loved hearing your thoughts on this and analysis of his improvements, where he's gone wrong, etc. I would definitely watch a 30 day painting mentorship (even if it's not w/Pew)!
You are correct 💯 brother
I never understood the controversy. It just sounds like internet artists are hurt because a famous guy with "zero talent" improved faster than they did. I think Alpay's praises and criticisms were all warranted. What pewdiepie was showcasing consistent practice in one style. Drawing every single day. I'm sure most amateur don't even do this. I don't, and I should be way more consistent if I want to improve in the subjects I draw and paint. What he was able to do was not game changing nor extremely impressive. The most impressive thing being how motivated he was (I watch his videos and he has talked about how he has that kind of mindset in general. He's a very goal driven guy, and as a casual fan, I was proud of him). That's incredibly inspiring and admirable, and I think us amateur should take a page from that. But like Alpay said, you have to do it with clear intention and understanding.
I completely agree with you, I really wish he could have transitioned to a different medium rather than digital.
Hearing the fact that people were apparently jealous of his journey was quite baffling to me.
It's such an achievement to persevere and find the joy in art but, I do hope Felix takes you up on that offer to teach him.
People on the internet are strange
Twitter is a strange place, people who have given up or spent years on art without much progress were jealous of Felix & Made every excuse they could: He's rich, he has infinite time etc etc (taking away the fact that he has a toddler, if we could find the time to watch a 30 minute video, we can find the time to draw 30 minutes)
I seem progress from other artists in 1 year and their progress is astounding. But what it makes a difference for them is that they study smart, analyze their mistakes, re do it, do studies and they’re consistent like hell. That last thing I think is the thing that most artist don’t do, because the guys that don’t stop drawing while they try to improve are the ones that become professionals really fast and become masters. I really admire the consistent behavior they have and it only makes me wanna draw more (there was one guy that started showing his drawing books he did in one year and they were fucking endless).
What Pewdiepie meant with him being older and that working to his advantage is that when you are older, you have more discipline. The discipline to draw daily comes easier when you are older.
I would love to see that challenge taken up. "60 days to become a painter."
Great points you make and I too am glad to see an 'influencer' actually draw and share their start with people, to get over the embarrassment of it not being perfect. I have taught a few people to draw and after a week they start to understand that practice is the key. The challenge, even for me, is to keep trying things out and not to fall into a habit leading to a comfort zone that blocks progress. This is why I'm a crap painter - bad habits, lack of focus and negative feedback loop.
Interesting to hear your take. First time I’ve heard of PewDiePie so I had no preconceived opinions. I kinda feel like it would have been better for him to finish the year showcasing a traditional style drawing too. I create both traditional and digital art and for me I find the traditional is, in a way, easier to get a more satisfying piece. Although I really limit myself when creating digitally by not using shortcuts and effects. My most ‘cheater’ part is working in layers. I love watching your oil painting projects and while I paint with acrylics, my goal is to play with some oil painting. Awesome video and cheers.
To become good at art you have to be a man of focus, commitment and sheer freaking will.
I didn’t know John Wick could have been an awesome artist
I personally think the people who got mad at him are people who aren’t just jealous at his art progress but his work ethic. Many artist who say they want to get good don’t actually put in the full effort to get better. They don’t make the sacrifices necessary. Sometimes you’ll have to sacrifice sleep or spending time with friends/family to practice your art. I was able to improve my art with the right teachers and from my own research and wanting to get better. I had never really tried watercolors and had only painted with gouache and acrylics before but with tutorials and finding things that I found interesting as subjects I was able to grow. I think some of these artist are falling into a victim mentality.
I think anyone interested in art would take you up on that 60 day invitation. I know I would.
Alpay, you mention teaching artists, i was curious if this is something you still do online? I think your art is breathtaking and some lessons from you would be incredible
I do agree with you and think that maybe you could have gone more in depth about what exactly he could have done differently in his approach? Or maybe a future video idea :) I do "traditional" and digital art myself, so it's cool to see that he tried both but I would have loved to see him paint as well! + his progress "slowing down" especially once he bought the ipad was very expected as it is a completely new medium. Even if it seems easier as it has so many tools like liquify, millions of brushes and so on, it takes quite some time to actually know how to use them and enhance the artwork rather than rely on them.
Making a good reaction video is harder than I thought 😂… future ones will be even better 💪😄
@@AlpayEfe I did enjoy your video a lot! Sorry if it came off as criticism, I just really like your insights :)
I truly hope he takes you up on your offer Alpay.
This is amazing.
@@darkone2114 😄🙏🫶
YOOOO its the guy who paints so well it looks like digital art, love your work...
Didnt expect this reaction video🎉🎉🎉
I definitely understand where you come from with starting out with physical media first to learn the skills, muscle memory, etc
Buuuutt I feel like maybe you hit a bit too down on digital art. I feel it's a lot harder than traditional, especially if are trying to make digital work mimic it. And just because people can adjust the work easier as they go shouldn't be seen as a bad thing, because people have those same issues in real life too.
Also for a lot of people it's a cost and space factor, and digital will always be better for that. I don't have the space or time to do large physical media like you.
The biggest point to remember with PewDiePie in this entire video though, is he has a family that he has to balance with these creative endeavors. He said in one of the earlier videos he didn't have much time in that day to practice because he's a new father, with a baby to raise with his wife.
Would he have probably made more progress if he had found books and resources first? Oh yeah definitely! But, it probably didn't come into his head because he hasn't had as much time to actually focus on this.
18:00 A bold statement Herr Efe. What would the first step for him be, buying a midjourney subscription?
“Oh no. He’s gone over to the dark side…” 🤣
call me biased, but the easy ability to undo mistakes was what kept me from even trying digital art.
So you do only permanent ink? Erasers make it far too easy to undo mistakes
You are completely right.
You should create an online course for beginners on how to paint, and draw. I would love to take it, I know that for sure.
I haven't seen any controversy aside from people covering twitter. Which is always drama filled. I think it's cool what he's doin and there is something to learn from it.
I agree with everything you said!
I think this example shows "self thought " drawing in 365 days. If he learned from someone knows what he is doing would be X2 better at least 😅
Finally someone said something true about this video, PewDiePie is doing something good, it is admirable, practice is what makes the difference, but he doesn't think like a pro in my opinion. Also, he'd better start with the fundementals, if he really wanted to become a professional.
I see the real talent in form of the capacity of sticking to it, even when not reaching your own expectations and be over that feeling of "I suck". I personally don't have it.
Loved this!
Awesome videos all the time :D
I agree with you 100%
people just want to hate on him like they normally do. plus his art growth feels like it was fast but really wasn't...
Watching this I feel like a white belt just getting a master class or lecture from a black belt. Really cool!
PewDiePie is right about a lot of things here. You won’t find many professional artists talking about talent, because talent is largely loving something enough to do it long enough that you get good at it. He definitely would’ve done better if he had some formal guidance but he did do quite a bit by himself. The downside is when you’re trying to teach yourself you don’t really see things with a dispassionate and educated eye. Also, I think manga does a lot of damage to young artists because they learn to draw in a overly stylized and simplified manner without actually learning the complexities of shape and design, etc... and never get past that. "But I want to draw manga"... You'll do it better if you have strong fundamentals.
For a person who started drawing solo out of the blue, I think it's great progress-at least until the iPad came into the game 😅. For deliberate progress, it takes having a teacher beside you to tell you the next step objectively and in time, instead of jumping from one drawing to another. And I think that's the bigger point: being humble enough to recognize when you need help from others, even in a hobby, if you want to get better.
I understand what he means but easier when you are an adult.
I started drawing/painting 2 years ago and I am 40 now. I never had the patients to keep it up when I was younger but now being older, it's easier for me to sit for a few hours and just paint.
I don't either think his development is surprising. Having done something similar. I just never went the digital way🤣 I went to oil paint instead. That's the most fun thing out there so I dont want to start digital because it will take time from my oilpainting.
I don't know PewDiePie I picked up painting for the first time this year after having success with pastel pencils and creating exceptional portraits in my twenties and early thirties. I'm also a musician so that practice is a big part of my life but now that I am retired and finally a little less crazy with my physical energy, I can sit still and relax and paint. I started my latest composition by using a projector to outline a portrait of Jesus by Ron D Cianni that I have in my home. I changed Jesus' face and arm, though, to convey a welcoming look. I wanted to create what I had in my mind for one section of the artwork depicting the heavenlies, so I came here on UA-cam and watched so many tutorials on depth and contrast and clouds and sky. I finally believe I have that concept that i wanted figured out In the meantime, I was really appreciating you because you draw portraits, and I love the expression of the eyes in portraits. I only did portraits with color pastel pencils in my past. I knew I wanted to paint again after decorating a couple of rain barrels with waterproof craft paint on my property here in Kentucky. I really appreciate your work and your talent. You are my favorite because of your skill, which I know come from so much experience. Your personality is also very calm and confident, and that is relaxing. It was really helpful to see you redo a drawing you did 10 years ago and look at the amazing excellence in your work transforming that same portrait to perfection. Thanks again. I have always believed I can accomplish anything that I'm passionate about. I am in agreement with you that I believe anybody can learn anything if they discipline themselves and are deliberate about it like you say. Thank you. I believe this is the first time I've commented after watching you.
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Perhaps, some folks are upset. May e they are upset at another human man. This human man achieving a self induced sense of art. While this has happened for him. It maybe trivializes the craft or artisan.
Another very clear dichotomy drawn is that of artificial intelligence. Artist can now not only compete with veryy fast data thiefrs.... But also now. per Di Pie.
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Good luck
when i try to teach people i also discourage them from immediately jumping to digital art... its fun, more forgiving, and provided many tools for so much less money. but... its kind of like taking a massive short cut and its not good for habit formation at all. it doesnt mean digital art is bad !! but its not good for learning. you must learn the rules before you can skillfully and intentionally break them.
I saw one video of him where he did a comparison of Norway and Sweden.
When you state "This is not a representation of what one year of practice actually is," I disagree. I think that is quite a discouraging statement for beginner artists. He is still improving by drawing what he sees from a reference, judging distances and proportion, working on line quality, and most importantly, drawing consistently. Of course once he learns the fundamentals he will improve drastically. But saying one needs to start with focused study from the beginning in order to improve at all may be too much for new artists, who may feel overwhelmed and out of their depth. New artists should feel free and excited to draw, not told that what they're doing isn't progress.
Show me how you transformed pepoles painting ability in a year then?
how do you practice correctly we need a drawing and painting course from you
There is a massive amount of jealous cope in this comment section. A guy practiced something and got good and all the lazy people with excuses couldn’t handle it. Massive kek
I find it interesting that this is all measuring how well he can or can't draw in a clearly manga style. Which I have a lot of affection for, but is more like a specific shorthand for more representational, classic skills. Manga doesn't teach you to really see and measure forms in the traditional way. It's more like symbols for features that relies more on memorization. I would wager he couldn't draw a realistic nose at all given that he hasn't really been focusing on SEEING real form and volume.
You say you taught students for a year but all I see is 3 day courses on the website
I fully agree. Pewds progress is good but not great.
And definitely not mind blowing
@@AlpayEfe yes my mind have not blown yet by his drawings ... ~~ but my brain splatters everywhere whenever i see your new painting
@@nguyentai464😂thanks🙏
I would love to start from zero and practice deliberately to get better. Do you have training books or video training that would help someone know what to work on to get better?
I never understood the controversy about this either, other than maybe people who made a definite decision to pursue art as a profession not having as measurable a rate of apparent growth and development during a specified period of time in contrast to someone who just made the choice on a whim. Didn't really impact me having already spent over 40 years as a professional artist. My biggest "eyebrow raise" was just that he didn't actually become an artist he simply learned how to cartoon. There is a huge gap of study, knowledge and practice between an individual like Michelangelo and a UA-cam influencer like PewdiePie. And I definitely agree someone should have taken away that tablet, 😉it can lead to a lot of bad habits. That said, having worked digitally since 1987 while still working the old fashioned way I still prefer the feel of paper and pencil and the feel of clay to that of stylus and tablet. I'm old now and retired and the art world is a different place.
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Interesting, Im starting to do more. I'll take those comments to heart and do it peoperly! I really needed it.
I also tried drawing with an ipad but it kinda feels off. Its like I feel more to have achieved something, if it is physically in front of me. So yeah, digital might be helping, but not necessarily.
I think he is missing feedback, pewdiepie needs a teacher, maybe with just say, 12 sessions of 1 hour classes, so once a week, for 3 months.
he would get corrected way faster than a video every 100 days, where most of the comments are: "ow you are so talented", "keep up the wood gork" or hate: "you should stick to minecraft videos".
I know that because I went to just 1 month of human figure drawing, taught by a phd candidate, it's just stuff he does to pay for Uni, and DAMN! my stuff was not that bad, but it was lazy, and arrogant, real crap. I'm much better now.
What's considered "practice"
"He's gone over to the dark side" lmaoo I kid you not that's my exact reaction whenever I see someone going from traditional art to digital. An art youtuber I like tried digital art the other day and I commented "Oh no, we lost another one, guys."
The lie of talent is the worst thing ever that happened to art imho, because it‘s a lame excuse for people to stop persuing art, when the first bump in the learning curve appears. Weirdly enough, it‘s different with anything else.
Tell me about it, Ive myself have such a obsessive mind whenever i do something I like. Who else have bit of a obsessive mind ? 😅
You look more Turk now .
The thing is that he didn’t realize that he was actually jumping techniques all the time without getting really good at anything. Pencil/pen is one thing, then proportions are another, then anatomy is another, then a different pen is another, then digital painting is another and so on and so on. So what seemed a huge improvement overall was just a relatively minor improvement in each of those things. If he just started in digital he could have gotten to his current level quite fast, because most of it is just mastering digital painting tools. So jumping techniques keeps focus off of getting really good at one thing and that is what he should have done. Stuck to one technique at a time until he got so good he could continue to the next. I studied industrial design and one of the things you’re taught there is - you can draw something that looks like it makes sense, but you can’t physically make it. It’s the same with digital painting - it can mask a lot of bad techniques with nice glows, transitions and effects. It looks nice visually but because it’s “manga” you can fake proportions/anatomy, but that doesn’t mean you know proportions or anatomy. It just means you know how to fake it, which is not even close to being the same.
He basically drew the same cartoon from his imagination over and over for a year,; a chimpanzee repeating the same action over and over would show improvement after a year. A large part of drawing is training your eye to see, and to make judgements about what you see, and you need to draw from life to do that.
That's why I follow your channel. You are an amazing painter 🎨. I can sketch, but painting and sculpting are things I want to learn. I'm practicing with pen because I want to one day do my own graphic art novel for adults 18 and above.
You're right, he's used his platform to showcase the myth of talent versus skill. Did the same project 365 at the start of lockdown from ground zero. Always believed you had to be born with it until I proved myself wrong.
You are absolutely bitter. He used his platform to promote drawing and practice, and you’re jealous that you don’t see the same level of improvement. This is pathetic
He draws his wife lol
Let's face it, if he posted his art on one of the forums anonymously (he should make a video where he actually does that), he would get maybe 2 or 3 comments, none of them overly complementary. His style and standard of work is dime a dozen on deviantart.
He is getting so much credit because of who he is, not because of the standard of his work. imo.
well yes but its more about the newfound passion and how chasing that and being consistent can lead to improvement
well yes but its more about the newfound passion and how chasing that and being consistent can lead to improvement
@@itzapanda1780 Yes but as this video explains, it doesn't really lead to improvement.
This generic manga copying teaches very little about form, shape, value, perspective, drawing, color theory composition, anatomy, design etc. etc. His manga drawings would all benefit from studying these foundations too.
More people should point this out to him.
If he wants to get good at art he's not going about the best way.
Cope
He should just do artwork and not whatever else he's known for
As this video explains, it doesn't really lead to improvement.
This generic manga copying teaches very little about form, shape, value, perspective, drawing, color theory composition, anatomy, design etc. etc. His manga drawings would all benefit from studying these foundations too.
More people should point this out to him.
If he wants to get good at art he's not going about the best way.
Does it seem like instead of opening the door, he's closing it... ?
How long you think it'll actually take him?
You really are pathetic. A guy picked up a pen and drew for enjoyment. And you’re angry about it. You sound like you haven’t progressed in your life. Stop being so bitter
@@mthokozisimasondo9313 Well if he wants to get to the same level of say.. a Joe Mad, who is also Manga and Anime influenced, and also not academically trained.. and draws traditionally,
a very long time.
And I'm sure there are better Manga artists I could name.
PFFF! When he draws and paints a proper portrait.. then we'll talk..
I do not see any good drawning here ... anime? For year of drawning doll thats nothing. Also did he use reference picture of anime or not? I bet he did and then his result even less impressive. There elefant painting more creative puctures and he use no reference pics to copy.
He's still learning how to draw. Just because it's manga style doesn't discount it as a way to get started. Lots of people start out drawing manga style as kids/teens and are doing just fine. We shouldn't discourage people for actually putting in the work and drawing what they like.
@KatieKat10 nobody discourage him or kids who wants to draw. Its just just MY opinion. There lots of great videos how to learn to draw or paint. Really good ones and they would be helpfull for those who wants to learn art. I bet after year of practices they would have great result. You have your opinion , i have mine.
garbage
You saying he has "no talent" is absolutely delusional.
Awesome videos all the time :D