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  • @AlpayEfe
    @AlpayEfe  Рік тому +57

    Next video will be insane… buckle up, friends! He’s coming 🔥🙌

  • @soundcheck6885
    @soundcheck6885 Рік тому +405

    Photorealism is a lot more interesting when it's not just a copy from a photograph, but an imagined/surreal subject/scene that is constructed to look real.

    • @nanadrawslot
      @nanadrawslot Рік тому +28

      Certainly, My art teacher also said it’s the simplest and uninteresting to paint photorealistic . Although , he admired the technical skill. He said abstract art is more difficult to create

    • @abhinavbhardwaj5517
      @abhinavbhardwaj5517 Рік тому +1

      Guweiz does that really well

    • @kalliskivike
      @kalliskivike Рік тому +61

      @@nanadrawslot I'm sorry but I graduated from 3 different art schools and your teacher makes no sense....abstract art is literally the most EASIEST style ever. Photorealistic is not simple, it may be uninteresting but it takes A LOT of skills to master photorealism. Most teachers are biased towards abstract cause thats usually the only art they are able to create and every child can make that art style.

    • @stephenhan9680
      @stephenhan9680 Рік тому +20

      @@kalliskivike It means you’re still at the basic level in your art journey, I would say a lot of the layman and beginner artists (including me before I was serious about Art) would be easily impressed by Photorealism and look down on abstract art especially like Picaso style where it just looks like random scribble and blotch of paint.
      I actually said the same thing to my art teacher when he was teaching me about Abstract design and he just smiled. I just lost myself in copying what I think is beautiful and be proud when it looked kinda close 😆 Only later when I studied famous artists like Normal Rockwell, John Singer Sargent and Andrew Loomis that I realized a good painting is more than just blindly copying what you see but determined a lot by good design and arrangement and decision making which is based in abstract. Abstract is like a foundation to a building, almost all serious artists don’t proceed until they have that lock down (this is actually a secret that most beginners don’t know).
      And good art teachers actually judge whether you can pick up Art quickly or not by seeing how you draw first. Most adults will stray away from stick figure like abstract and kinda copy the lines which mean the wrong perception and bad habit has already set in and will take a lot of time to unlearn it, for some people it might even be totally impossible to get rid of. Really good art teachers would rather teach stick figure drawing students over detail oriented ones.

    • @kalliskivike
      @kalliskivike Рік тому +17

      @@stephenhan9680 @Stephen Han I'm most impressed by people who can do realistic fantasy art style without using references. Realism with some abstract work well together. I have drawn majority art styles along with cubism, abstract is and will be the easiest one to master. I'm no where at basic lvl, I'm not huge lover of photorealism or any form which is just copying but when people say that one is easy and abstract is hard is wrong. I disagree on that its hard to "unlearn" from doing picture perfect art, its way more difficult for people who have only done abstract while lacking any anatomy studies so their back to 0. If your able to do all styles then you have become a master, I am personally quite dissappointed how you can only see modern simplistic art styles in galleries now and them being so overpriced. Majority in the world now has gone to simplistic route in both art and design along with only flat rectangle glass buildings. Our old buildings look way more interesting than new modern ones where they all look the same. For me it just shows lack of skills and creativity than what we had centuries ago

  • @MM-kq9ip
    @MM-kq9ip Рік тому +139

    From an art historian's perspective: the skill and quality of mimesis - imitating the forms present in the real world - was throughout the centuries, since the times of ancient Greek and Roman civilization, the highest praised one in a work of art; the subject of paragone, artistic competition. While there always were artists not pursuing it as their main goal, only the invention of photography has changed the perspective, making realism less of a priority, opening doors to different ways of perception (...Impressionism, Post-Impressionism, and so forth). While one can argue that creativity, diversity, innovation in forming an artwork may be more interesting and valuable nowadays, the talent and skill behind the sheer ability of mimetic depiction of things is indisputable.

    • @aimeem
      @aimeem Рік тому +13

      But they're not usually painting a realistic image from life. They're simply copying a photo, with all a camera's perspective problems. Totally different.

    • @violett5418
      @violett5418 Рік тому +5

      yep isnt realism different in the sense that the artists manipulate their subjects into new scenarios/forms/settings/whatever in a realistic *style* whereas photorealism is usually copied from an actual photo? Or at least, they rely extremely heavily on their reference photo without changing anything about it (other than upping contrast/changing colours/whatever in photoshop).

    • @fluidfox1436
      @fluidfox1436 Рік тому +1

      It really seems to piss people off, too.

    • @WALDENSOFTWARE
      @WALDENSOFTWARE Рік тому +2

      It's indisputable because you don't need any type of artistic background to perceive it.

    • @McKurdi
      @McKurdi 5 місяців тому

      That’s exactly how it is, photorealistic art is the highest level of art, if you can do that you can proudly call yourself an artist, unlike abstract ‘’artists’’ that are bragging about their mess that a 5 year old can create. What makes it even more crazy is that abstract paintings can be sold for insane amounts of money.. I think when you mix realism with a bit of abstract it will be really cool

  • @sarahfischer3817
    @sarahfischer3817 Рік тому +69

    The first painting was mine!! Thank you so much for critiquing it, Alpay!! The paints were Gamblin but the canvas was just a cheap Arteza, so you’re absolutely right about the materials. This was my second oil painting and I am going to buy a bunch of proper quality canvases per your suggestion. Thank you!!!! ❤

    • @windrider5845
      @windrider5845 Рік тому +1

      Nice! 👏🏼

    • @Valaryant.
      @Valaryant. Рік тому +1

      U did an amazing job!, would u be able to share the price differences?, where I grew up oil painting was a rich person's hobby/job and kinda still is lol.

    • @sarahfischer3817
      @sarahfischer3817 Рік тому +2

      @@Valaryant. I have the Gamblin paints, which weren’t cheap, but I think Windsor and Newton’s paints and mediums are high quality and more affordable. As far as canvases and such go I’m still searching, ha!

    • @Valaryant.
      @Valaryant. Рік тому +1

      @@sarahfischer3817 I see, well, wish u the best on that hunt for canvases and keep the amazing work.

    • @sarahfischer3817
      @sarahfischer3817 Рік тому +1

      @@RosanneKSart thank you! I heard about oiling out just yesterday and I think you’re right, that’s something I need to learn. I am excited to see how this one looks when varnished. Thank you so much! ❤

  • @heathermakesart
    @heathermakesart Рік тому +70

    I started into art really pushing myself to achieve hyper photorealism, but then as time went on I started yearning to bring more paint strokes into my work and started going away from it. There is something about the movement created by brush strokes that makes a work feel more “alive” that hyper photorealism and photographs just don’t do.

  • @petiaivailova2563
    @petiaivailova2563 Рік тому +10

    I like photorealism - for me one of the main goals of fine art is to depict as close to reality as possible. It's interesting that a lot of people say "Anyone can do this", but in most cases the very people who say it can't draw at all (with or without reference).

    • @McKurdi
      @McKurdi 5 місяців тому +4

      That’s exactly how it is lol it’s crazy this dude says photorealism is the easiest, but it is the total opposite. Most abstract artists can’t even draw, let alone drawing in realism. So creating messy abstract pieces is by far the easiest way to create ‘’art’’ while photorealism is at the top, because it takes so long to do and you not only need to be able to draw, but also know everything about tonal values etc.
      he don’t know what he is talking about, don’t even know why he would say that when he is also doing realistic art

  • @adacskipper
    @adacskipper Рік тому +26

    I'm just gonna preface this by explaining that I'm a graduate from a fine arts university, however I do not paint in a photorealistic style myself. I think I get what you were trying to say; that photorealism is not a creatively challenging art style because its often copying a photograph. Please correct me if I made the wrong conclusion. To a certain extent I agree with you; if you're simply copying a photograph, pixel by pixel, then it essentially requires less creative thought than a paint by numbers kit. However, with that being said, photorealism is so much more than that, and I think its a bit unfair to dismiss it as such. In fact, one could argue that you yourself draw in a photorealist style. Of course I don't think you consider yourself a photorealistic artist, but it does raise a very valid question: where does stylization end and photorealism begin? Most people would say that photorealism is any painting that could reasonably convince a viewer that it was a photograph, even for but a moment.
    I also think its foolish to argue that "photorealism is the easiest" because, to be quite honest, I simply disagree. It might be the easiest for you personally, but most people have to spend a huge amount of time mastering the necessary observational skills, understanding of light, colour and shadow to make a photo-realistic piece. There is a reason why artists like Caravaggio are so famous and renowned to this day, and its not just because they were in the right place at the right time. Either way, if I were you I would hesitate to made such wide, generalizing statements about a style of art that you personally find easy. Not only is it unfair to other artists who spend decades mastering that style, but it also discourages new artists because they feel that they're bad artists when they struggle to master photorealism.

    • @os1299
      @os1299 Рік тому +1

      THIS! Exactly my thought. Thank you for putting it into words.

    • @Libbyheartblue
      @Libbyheartblue Рік тому +2

      Yes thank you, this is my painting style and I looked up to Alpay as an artist and tried to start practicing his painting style as I love his brush strokes but after hearing him dismiss my style of art that I’ve worked on all my life so quickly is so disappointing. I don’t think I’ll be following his work any longer as I won’t support artists who crap on other artists work

  • @Andya235
    @Andya235 Рік тому +85

    I’m feeling quite discouraged after hearing the comment about photorealism in all honesty. I love to do cultural paintings because it makes me feel close to my culture, I do change the subjects in some way when I paint them but I feel like saying it requires the least skill is massively discouraging to artists. Not everyone likes fantasy or Impressionism, and just because someone includes more brush strokes doesn’t make them more skilled than someone that paints more realistically. It’s just a different style of art. One might be more creative but certainly not more or less skilled in painting

    • @kalliskivike
      @kalliskivike Рік тому +21

      don't be discouraged, it takes a lot of skills to master photorealism and majority never get close to that lvl so they jealous. I am a big fan of fantasy but i also like realism style aswell.

    • @gallagherwitt
      @gallagherwitt Рік тому +30

      I agree with Alpay on a lot of things, but not this one. Photorealism is easier for some people, harder for others. Ditto with impressionism or any other style. I paint photorealistic because it's what I like, and I've worked hard to produce the results I want. It's a perfectly valid means of painting. I find impressionism to be easier on a technical level than photorealism, but I generally don't like the results (my own or the masters'; the look is just not my cup of tea) and I don't enjoy the process, so it's not the right type of art *for me*. I like a smooth appearance without much in the way of visible brush strokes, and I like the image to look closer to a photo. "Why not just take a photo, then?" Because the challenge is painting it. I'm a photographer, too -- they're two wildly different skills. And even for things like fantasy and surreal art, I still use photo references and a photorealistic style. e.g., a photo of a horse + a photo of bird wings to produce a pegasus with realistic proportions/biomechanics; while the end result is obviously not real, I like it to look like it could be.
      As the other commenter above me said, don't be discouraged. Photorealism absolutely requires skill, and being easier or harder for one artist shouldn't mean it's greater or lesser for another. That's like insisting that watercolor is somehow superior because it's more difficult than oil -- it isn't more difficult for some people, and the results come down to what the artist does with them, not what another artist thinks.
      Keep doing what you're doing!

    • @art252
      @art252 Рік тому +25

      Don’t be. I don’t like this trend of shitting on photorealism (which isn’t even the type of art I do btw), while hyping up abstract etc. all forms of art are valid, but have a big art UA-camr say that most anime art is easy, for example, all hell would break loose.
      It makes sense to appease people who don’t even want to strive for that level nowadays because the bar of entry is so low. Just look at instagram lol.
      Keep striving to do what speaks to you, don’t let anyone deter you ❤

    • @Andya235
      @Andya235 Рік тому +3

      @@gallagherwitt thank you so much for sharing your take, it's really encouraged me!

    • @artbylain9316
      @artbylain9316 Рік тому +14

      I think photorealism and more impressionist art take very different skill sets. Calling it the easiest style is dismissive and untrue. Perhaps it has clearer steps on how to get to the desired goal, but it is still very difficult. The tedious and exacting nature of it is something I sure don’t have the patience for. I hope you keep doing your art and doing what you love. 💖

  • @StudioYudy
    @StudioYudy Рік тому +23

    Maybe photorealism is like Sprint(running). (I do love both of them a lot.)
    Basically anyone can copy circles or squares, or running. It’s nothing special. But if you can copy extremely precisely, or run really fast, it could attract and impress people. Although they are just “copying/running”.
    Sadly there’re always people who tells them ‘it’s not art/sports’, or they even might say ‘Just use camera/vehicles’. And those people are always angry😅
    But as far as the creators/runners are enjoying it, or there’re people who enjoy watching them, let’s leave them alone😅 we don’t need to criticize them.

  • @drinkbooks
    @drinkbooks Рік тому +72

    Wow, that is a hot take!😁I would call accomplishing photorealism more a technical skill than a creative one but if you can use your creativity to setup the image and then capture it, I believe it is very effective depending on the subject. I, like another user stated, prefer photorealism applied to surreal or imaginary objects. To me, that makes it more magical. I can take a picture of cherries, apply a filter, and print it if I want that kind of image. Aaaaallll that being said, I like the cherries, the artist did a good job and having done it will build them toward more.

    • @endlessstudent3512
      @endlessstudent3512 Рік тому +1

      I disagree, you would call anyone making stuff like sculpturing, claywork etc beeing creative. To achieve photorealsmn you need a lot of creativity to use materials to get that look.

    • @drinkbooks
      @drinkbooks Рік тому +1

      @@endlessstudent3512 It's perfectly fine to disagree. To me, creativity is imagining something, skill is bringing it to life. I can create a thousand things in my head that I lack the technical skill to make. Even creative 'use' is still imagining that 'this thing' could be used in 'this way' and then trying it out. You then teach yourself the skill of how to make that work. It is now something you know and can teach to someone else. The creative part was that you came up with it in the first place.🙂

  • @teunr3689
    @teunr3689 Рік тому +16

    Now we know why alpay always uses the paint roller as a finishing touch. Up until that point he's just painting "the easiest and least complex style" 😂

  • @endlessstudent3512
    @endlessstudent3512 Рік тому +7

    Photorealism is the lowest discipline? U kidding me? Getting photorealism perfected is one of the moste difficult styles! Anyone can slather on some acryl splotches and call it art. But drawing something so perfectly that the eye does note perceive it as drawing anymore is breathtaking. I am shocked at what some so called artists produce and dare to call themselfs artists.

  • @michelledahl146
    @michelledahl146 Рік тому +10

    Hey thats me at 13:56 ! 😁 wonderful to see your insights with everyone's work. And big thanks for the like and kind words!!!
    I think I mostly agree with you on photo realism. It was a great goal to aim for when I was learning the basics, but creatively it's much harder to craft something that expresses an idea/ meaning/etc

  • @ssartworks7396
    @ssartworks7396 Рік тому +19

    This is what we need, genuine art critiques

  • @SnowS162
    @SnowS162 Рік тому +50

    Realism isn't easy and it takes a lot of patience, hard work and very fine detail. Few people can master it like Steve Hanks and Mary Whyte. And Miriam Escofet who recently painted the Queen before she passed away. It takes a lot of more time to be precise and detailed.

    • @onlinemodus
      @onlinemodus Рік тому +9

      Dude it’s just boring.

    • @cameronrobinson3933
      @cameronrobinson3933 Рік тому +5

      I agree with you I don't think the assessment that hyperrealism is easy is proper. I feel like it's one of the hardest. Though I do agree that can feel flat just because it feels like you're looking at a photograph but to be able to do that is something I don't think it's easier at all. I think I'm a fairly good artist and I can't do photorealism at all but I can do a lot of the other things that I see on here

    • @SnowS162
      @SnowS162 Рік тому +4

      There are award winning artists that I mentioned and their work are impressive. I agree not all realism painting look good, e.g. cherry painting he showed in the video. The same can be said about photos that most non-artist take can be quite plain. You still have to know how to make an artwork exciting and interesting. For me, I would rather the food pictures to look realistically delicious 😋 and vibrant -- not dull. However, everyone has their own opinions.

    • @TheLoveweaver
      @TheLoveweaver Рік тому +5

      Theres a difference between Realism and Photo Realism.

    • @ambrosearts
      @ambrosearts Рік тому +9

      I have noticed that photorealistic art is never appreciated by those who do not want to bother or have failed trying. Almost always. Of course it is NOT the easiest form of art and whoever says that is ignorant. It is in fact the hardest as the artist must overcome personal distorted perception which is never easy...they must negate their own impression to render complete realism. They must paint EXACTLY what they physically see and not how they subconsciously THINK it should be which is very hard to do for most. We are continually knotted up in our own personal perceptions of things. I used to always make people about 5% rounder in the face because I secretly liked rounder faces more than angular...for about three years I was not even aware but even after that it was hard to stop and thirty years later I still catch myself doing it on occasion. These are personal impressions and directional leans that we can battle. Few even TRY and fewer manage it when they do try. I basically have a goal of photorealism for forty years and most of my work is fairly realistic (some is slightly surrealistic) but far from photorealism. I only have one piece so far that is borderline. I also have a photorealistic friend who is a master at it though he calls himself forever a student. It appears that he is the best in the known world for having fooled Japanese photo experts a few years back....no one else had managed that. He is very famous and was commissioned by the CIA for a huge collection of official aviation art. He takes some criticism for his level of art but is pretty calm about it because he knows where he stands. He is quite often bashed by lazy jealous artists in public forums and threads...yet none of the bashers ever have achieved that level of talent...in fact those ones rarely have even decent art. What most forget and I have said for years, art must be done with a certain degree of skill and taste or it is not art....even according to proper dictionaries. Words have definitions for a reason. All art is expression but most expression is not art. If photorealism is SO freaking easy...tell us why realistic artists who aim for that level rarely achieve that level....they have not managed yet for an obvious reason.

  • @gepetodelamorte8149
    @gepetodelamorte8149 Рік тому +12

    Aah, the myth of "photorealism is the easiest style of painting" is a strong one, a lot of art teacher seems to think that way. Truth is each discipline as his difficulties, it's really ignorance to think it's easy, plain and simple.

  • @hellothere1973
    @hellothere1973 Рік тому +8

    I respect Alpays take on photo realism but I heavily disagree. I think artist who are able to do photo realism master something that is quite extraordinary. To look at something that’s real and capture not only itself but it’s characteristics and essence is something that is extremely impressive and takes a lot of hard work. Standing back and looking at it and seeing that your two hands created something that could be mistaken for a photo is just wow. It’s a lot of time and dedication and learning because most people who master this or want to master it don’t start off like this. It’s a lot of trial and error and growing and setbacks. All you have is the photo but the rest is up to you. Even for like colored pencil people you have to be very careful with pressure, movement, dark to light, layering, blending, Side angles etc. Its definitely not that easy. With it also needs a lot of patience. I think photorealism is truly one of the most impressive forms of art along with many more other styles. You captured realness. You’ve captured life and your two hands did that!!!!

  • @adrianghandtchi1562
    @adrianghandtchi1562 Рік тому +1

    Abstraction and realism, especially photorealism, however opposing, will always balance each-other out.
    Anyone who can create and help visualize it is skilled to me, every craft has levels of skill. All are appreciated here. Although if you ask my favorite art style it is usually bordering on impressionistic. Amazing patches of color.

  • @Jacob_Walsh
    @Jacob_Walsh Рік тому +5

    I love these videos. Fun to hear you rip things apart but also helpful. I saw my painting during a scroll but you didn’t touch it. I consider myself lucky.

  • @Heroasaurus
    @Heroasaurus Рік тому +11

    Yay! He talked about my piece @12:47 and gave a great tip I didn’t notice 😁 made my day!
    I agree with the photorealism comment. There is more artistry in showing your perception of what you see than a copy of it. Showing what to emphasize and remove.
    With realism the magic is more about the time it took to create the piece than the work itself.

  • @astri7455
    @astri7455 Рік тому +14

    Always love these video I learn so much! I also prefer a painting that is a painting and not a "photo" in painting form, but I do admire the work, time and skills people put into photorealism.

  • @artsoflaureli8363
    @artsoflaureli8363 Рік тому +4

    I’m learning realism in hopes that I can slowly free hand anything I want to create

  • @natalieward6887
    @natalieward6887 Рік тому +8

    There’s a glimpse of my squishmallow painting in the top right corner at 9:33 😂 Thanks for making these videos! Mixing humor with a real critique is brilliant. We all need to laugh more (and paint more!)

    • @AlpayEfe
      @AlpayEfe  Рік тому +1

      Thanks so much! So happy to hear!

  • @naedolor
    @naedolor Рік тому +59

    "One thing I can tell you though, it is definitely the easiest [photorealism]"
    As opposed to what, Alpay? Barnett Newman's blue paintings for example? How about Maurizio Cattelan's banana duck-tapped to a wall? How about some intersecting lines on a canvas by Piet Mondrian? Would you still say it's the easiest? Would you call, let's say artist Tjalf Sparnaay a hack in this case?
    It takes a s#!t loads of skills to create photorealism and I can't believe you don't acknowledge that 👎

    • @TmHudsonArt
      @TmHudsonArt Рік тому +16

      I'd like to see him show us his photorealism..after all, he needs to have accomplished it to be able to tell us all it is the easiest lol...

    • @artbylain9316
      @artbylain9316 Рік тому +13

      Agreed 🔥 personally I like more stylized and impressionistic art but like. That doesn’t detract from the value and impressiveness of realism.

    • @liexicof
      @liexicof Рік тому +8

      @@TmHudsonArt look through his videos. He was famous for painting photorealistic pieces of yellow scotch tape. Lol. I, too, am a bit flabbergasted by his stance on photorealism.

    • @cheeseycheezy
      @cheeseycheezy Рік тому +7

      i mean, photorealism is just copying, sure it takes skill, but you don’t need to think outside of the box, there’s no room for communication, expression or story telling either (in the og pic? sure, but it wasnt *you* that made it) its easier because it’s like building a house with blueprint on hand, as oposed to other arts which would be more like building a house from scratch, sure, you need to learn how to build them by studying the blueprints, and learning the best techniques and tools for building, but YOU are the one that plan it out, figure out where the things should go, what place should i build the house? what material? what tools should i use? what colors? You need to gain a sense of how to build houses before making it from scratch, making photorealism fairly easier , it’s still hard and requires skills tho of course x)

    • @TmHudsonArt
      @TmHudsonArt Рік тому +2

      @@liexicof Couldn't find the scotch tape one but saw a donut one. I can't say as it is photorealistic though....very obviously painterly...

  • @jonadam4233
    @jonadam4233 Рік тому +10

    Photorealism at the bottom of all disciplines? I never heard that one before, It took me years to develop my ability to paint photorealism, and many great artists I know can't even come close to achieving it. I think you need to be more "realistic" when calling it "easy" fellah. Taking Jabs at photorealism is surely a "hot take" I feel like you know this and are looking for attention in all honestly.

    • @Thesamurai1999
      @Thesamurai1999 Рік тому +3

      Yeah it’s really weird of him to say that when his own paintings is basically realism just more rough and some splashes of paint added to the end. Photorealism can take hundreds of hours to do. It’s the definition of discipline.

  • @j.d.waterhouse4197
    @j.d.waterhouse4197 11 місяців тому +2

    I don't think Alplay mentioned this, but a good method of critiquing your own work is to photograph it and then reverse the image. Often, you can immediately see if there are problems.

  • @aprilkurtz1589
    @aprilkurtz1589 Рік тому +22

    Photorealism is easy? How is making something look like it is a real, 3D object on a 2D surface easy? It might be a low level skill, but I wish I had it.

    • @AlpayEfe
      @AlpayEfe  Рік тому +16

      It’s like magic… once you know how the trick is done, the magic is gone 😅

    • @aprilkurtz1589
      @aprilkurtz1589 Рік тому

      @@AlpayEfe You're right, but as someone who struggles a bit to make things look as perfect as possible, I wish I had the talent. I really enjoy and learn from your critiques and watching you paint. Thanks!

    • @Lazarusart
      @Lazarusart Рік тому +9

      It's because he does not have the skill to do it himself, is the truth.

    • @bradm6287
      @bradm6287 Рік тому +11

      @@AlpayEfe You could literally say that about any technique.

    • @tabbi888
      @tabbi888 Рік тому

      ​@@AlpayEfe your work is to be honest quite boring, once you've seen one you've seen them all, so you shouldn't be so cocky. You're girlfriends work is so much better and more interesting incorporating realism with fantasy and textural/patterned effects, I could look at it all day. Does the fact she incorporates photo realistic faces into the work lessen it of course not, the juxtaposition against the more abstract elements only heightens it. You could learn a lot from her, or just keep to the stale boring sameness that has nothing really distinguishing from the many cohort of contemporary artists that exist today. Arrogant, pretentious, pompous and boring are words I'd describe the modern trend, whereas photo realism especially when pulled off in the context of fantasy or surrealist fields is innately more difficult for example concept drawings for lord of the rings ,and is never given the recognition it deserves ,it takes immense skill to manipulate a scene like that to make it truly realistic, something I don't think you'd be capable of. You have to be good at everything to pull that off not just a portrait.

  • @tracy-eire
    @tracy-eire 8 місяців тому +1

    I respect photorealist artists as much as any other kind. I have learned a lot from them and their work can be astounding.

  • @dpostalserviceart7612
    @dpostalserviceart7612 Рік тому +5

    Also, would love to see you do a photo/hyper realism work just to show ppl u can rock it!
    I do that style occasionally and do find it CAN be pretty easy but often presents some challenges. Though I would not consider what I do that “photo” realistic as i still change things to make it “look better” or more interesting

  • @EduardoHenrique-nd1ro
    @EduardoHenrique-nd1ro Рік тому +1

    Another amazing video, Alpay!
    Thanks for sharing!
    Cheers from Brazil!

  • @88lilalola69
    @88lilalola69 Рік тому +18

    Fight me on photorealism! :D I swear to God, most people who tell me they can paint like photorealism lack in so many areas: proportion, anatomy, value, size, the list goes on. This needs years of training, even people who learn in an atelier sometimes lack the "eyes" of an painter, as they didn't learn how to "see" right. But I guess I know where you are coming from - one lacks his own "style" if it is too realistic, but when painting with oil paint I think it is way easier to "show off" ones true style - this needs years and is way harder than simply copying a photo, I sbolutely agree with you! I mean look at paintings from Frans Hals, he was so bold with his brush strokes and people still gasp when they stay in front of his paintings. For me, I always try to achieve the most realistic drawings, but let loose when it comes to painting.

    • @kalliskivike
      @kalliskivike Рік тому +4

      Indeed! Photorealism is one of the hardest style to master, the most difficult is realistic fantasy style without using any references cause all of that comes from your mind and thats decades of training. You barely ever see abstract painters going anywhere near realistic styles cause they lack the basic area studies which you mentioned. If only people these days wouldn't be so obsessed with abstract "modern" type of simplistic overpriced arts. These new modern art gallery stuffs are such a scam and most people don't even realize that

    • @Valaryant.
      @Valaryant. Рік тому +4

      Modern "art" by all means and accounts, is usually, sheet, I could really care less who says and what excuse anyone would give to call Pompidou Center, Malevich's Black Square or that ridiculous black and white photo of a potato that sold for hundreds of thousands, art, Art should be something that awes u, something that anyone can appreciate at first glance or with a little explanation, once u need to "educate" someone what is and how to see art, is brainwash.

    • @gardeniainbloom812
      @gardeniainbloom812 Рік тому +2

      @@kalliskivike Oh gosh this is boring now. The constant debate around skill and abstract art is tired. It sells. People buy what they like. There is room for all tastes.

  • @bobbytirlea
    @bobbytirlea Рік тому +2

    I agree with the "cheap canvas" part, never paint with oil on one of those! When starting, unfortunately, I have one painting finished one of those... all the colors have sunk, yet that is the smallest issue, the greatest one is that the linseed oil has entirely sipped in the fabric of the canvas that will decay it eventually. However, you will have sunken parts when doing oils on all gesso premium based canvases as well, only if that canvas is oil primed, there will not be. Varnish will help with the cheap canvas as well to bring out all the sunken parts, partly, that is why we use varnishes. I absolutely agree, never paint with oils on cheap canvases!

  • @realrebelli0n
    @realrebelli0n Рік тому +2

    I personally find most photorealistic paintings uninteresting and I dislike the fact that the fantastically rendered details often are the very topic of the painting. Still I think it‘s easy to just see it as no better than what a home-office printer can do, because to get the colors and more importantly the tone values actually accurate is hard and takes a long time to master. These skills are also needed in realism, naturalism or digital art though which I find way more interesting.

  • @shizuka.9624
    @shizuka.9624 Рік тому +3

    I love your videos Efe💜thanks for inspiring us🤗

  • @ambrosearts
    @ambrosearts Рік тому +6

    I have noticed that photorealistic art is never appreciated by those who do not want to bother or have failed trying. Almost always. Of course it is NOT the easiest form of art and whoever says that is ignorant. It is in fact he hardest as the artist must overcome personal distorted perception which is never easy...they must negate their own impression to render complete realism. They must paint EXACTLY what they physically see and not how they subconsciously THINK it should be which is very hard to do for most. We are continually knotted up in our own personal perceptions of things. I used to always make people about 5% rounder in the face because I secretly liked rounder faces more than angular...for about three years I was not even aware but even after that it was hard to stop and thirty years later I still catch myself doing it on occasion. These are personal impressions and directional leans that we can battle. Few even TRY and fewer mange it when they do try. I basically have a goal of photorealism for forty years and most of my work is fairly realistic (some is slightly surrealistic) but far from photorealism. I only have one piece so far that is borderline. I also have a photorealistic friend who is a master at it though he calls himself forever a student. Dru Blair. I have taken some lessons from him in the past year. It appears that he is the best in the known world for having fooled Japanese photo experts a few years back....no one else had managed that. He is very famous and was commissioned by the CIA for aviation art. He takes some criticism for his level of art but is pretty calm about it because he knows where he stands. He is quite often bashed by lazy jealous artists in public forums and threads...yet none of the bashers ever have achieved that level of talent...in fact those ones rarely have even decent art. What most forget and I have said for years, art must be done with a certain degree of skill and taste or it is not art....even according to proper dictionaries. Words have definitions for a reason. All art is expression but most expression is not art. If photorealism is SO freaking easy...tell us why realistic artists who aim for that level rarely achieve that level....they have not managed yet for an obvious reason.

  • @kkeeii
    @kkeeii Рік тому +2

    That’s me on 10:32 I knew you would love a chicken 🐔painting, even more fried 🍗! 😄

  • @skaughtmc6591
    @skaughtmc6591 Рік тому +10

    Looks like a lot of people are getting offended by the photo realism comment. I think “easiest” is the wrong word. It’s more of, given enough time, anyone can achieve it. In art school we had a Trompe-l'œil in pencil project. Everyone had different styles and skill levels, but when forced to try to make an exact, realistic copy a 1’x1’ collage, nearly everyone’s came out convincing. When you can continuously work the same spot over and over and over again until you have every tiny detail copied, I can understand a professional thinking that is “easy” vs trying to convey the same subject with a minimal number of deliberate strokes.

    • @TmHudsonArt
      @TmHudsonArt Рік тому +6

      Anyone can achieve any style given enough time. I noticed that the patron's painting in this vid was very alike in style to the artist he's learning from. I see countless loose artists all producing work that looks very alike to that of other artists too. Nobody is doing anything truly unique anymore....it's all been done.

    • @feyrie
      @feyrie 9 місяців тому

      Hmm…. Ok you have a good argument. I do know people irl who can draw exactly what they see, but when you ask them to freehand, the skill level drop greatly.

  • @cpoco
    @cpoco Рік тому

    I always have to remind myself that your roasts aren't nasty... I love your "critique" and it's lovely to see some other artists works.

  • @Mijuki
    @Mijuki Рік тому +9

    Me, before the video starts: I hope i'm in it this time!
    Me, after he starts roasting others: God, i hope i'm not in it

  • @GrowingHomeGardening
    @GrowingHomeGardening Рік тому +1

    Subscribed for your enthusiasm for the kitty painting :)))

  • @tinney_o9639
    @tinney_o9639 Рік тому +2

    Good old Samuel, he’s such an amazing artist!

  • @questgivercyradis8462
    @questgivercyradis8462 Рік тому +1

    Paint the mini, Alpay!!!

  • @HeidiSue60
    @HeidiSue60 Рік тому +3

    The first one, I immediately thought of Marty Feldman from Young Frankenstein lol and there he was! Freshly Dead! 😂

  • @sarahkribben1521
    @sarahkribben1521 Рік тому +3

    I love these videos ❤ But Alpay, where is your cap? 😅 I’m missing it for a while now 🤔

    • @AlpayEfe
      @AlpayEfe  Рік тому +1

      Switching things up a bit 😁

  • @omaewamoushindeiru6581
    @omaewamoushindeiru6581 Рік тому

    One of my favorite series

  • @shubham_M7777
    @shubham_M7777 Рік тому +1

    Sir can you make video on is oil painting, water color, acrylic paint is only way to draw (photo) realistic drawing?
    Can we draw realistic drawing with other medium? Like oil pastel, colored pencils or sketching?

  • @timdobert6711
    @timdobert6711 Рік тому

    So I found this interesting. How do I send a specific painting for critique ? Very curious about what you would say.

  • @bjornviir3333
    @bjornviir3333 Рік тому +18

    photorealistic art is considered to be the hardest by most, i am not a huge fan of it nor can i do it but i admire those who can pull it off...why would you say it is the easiest...

    • @AlpayEfe
      @AlpayEfe  Рік тому +14

      only by people who have no idea…

    • @endlessstudent3512
      @endlessstudent3512 Рік тому +4

      @@AlpayEfe or by those who cannot do it themself. Any style that needs years of painstacking training and practice to learn can hardly be called easy.

  • @spudeedeelweiss
    @spudeedeelweiss Рік тому

    have you tried transparent watercolor? for you which has an advantage in your career as an artist? Oil paint or Watercolor?

  • @aanimzoart5321
    @aanimzoart5321 Рік тому +5

    On photorealistic draws and paints is not easy by any means . I think any 1st grader can slop some paint on a canvas and call it art or abstract .

  • @katiepatrick425
    @katiepatrick425 Рік тому +3

    I'll def tag you in some of my next paintings. I could use to be roasted. My music uploads are a mess too >

  • @rebeldown771
    @rebeldown771 5 місяців тому

    Which daily drawing skillshare course where you talking about again? I've been trying to find it in your videos but I simply can't remember!

  • @katerichards6802
    @katerichards6802 Рік тому +2

    Heck. I’m always tempted to submit something, and then I see the calibre of the other submissions… and run away. 😅
    Guess I should sign up for skillshare. 😂

  • @vedomedo
    @vedomedo Рік тому +4

    Always fun! Can't wait for you to paint a mini. I've been into the hobby (Warhammer 40k) for a couple of years now, and have been looking at works of art from professionals, I assume you'll impress me just as much

    • @AlpayEfe
      @AlpayEfe  Рік тому +1

      I’ll probably completely botch it 😂

    • @vedomedo
      @vedomedo Рік тому

      @@AlpayEfe haha, while possible I still believe you have such a good grasp on painting theory that you'll naturally be well above average.

  • @Scottman1967
    @Scottman1967 Рік тому

    I really enjoy your critiques.

  • @pawehordyniak636
    @pawehordyniak636 Рік тому +1

    Could the first one be saved with varnish?

  • @myth8879
    @myth8879 Рік тому +1

    But what if we don't have the luxury to buy slightly more expensive canavs or paints? What if we only have to make do with cheap quality stuff until we get there?

  • @stanislavbandur7355
    @stanislavbandur7355 Рік тому

    I saw some documentary or what that was about photorealism and there was an artist (years ago, I cant remember his name) which painted some T crossroad "somewhere" in US, but one side of street was totally different place then other side and in front was another street from somewhere else. Al worked great, correct reflections, shadows and so.
    Such type I can understand - like people doing CGI nowadays, make some new reality (lets call it that way), but copying photo is for me something weird, like reinventing wheel. I like surrealistic paintings of Salvador Dali, where even it is a bit postery/cartoony, all fits (shadows, light and so) in my eye.

  • @vitocollection
    @vitocollection Рік тому

    I like your paintings Alpay, your works are amazing~ even i am an middle aged man, still i wanna start learning to paint. Would you give me some advices?

    • @vitocollection
      @vitocollection Рік тому

      maybe i should start to learn drawing as fundemental stage, right?

  • @theartofcharleen
    @theartofcharleen Рік тому +1

    Omg these videos are great 😆

  • @raju.paintings
    @raju.paintings Рік тому +3

    All paintings are Wonderfull 👏👏👏👏👏👌👌👌👌🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @Assilajami2
    @Assilajami2 Рік тому +2

    I was waiting for my turn😓 anyway, amazing video as always!

    • @natalieward6887
      @natalieward6887 Рік тому

      Same. It’s kind of stressful watching & waiting 😅 So many amazing artists to choose from!

  • @nettierg
    @nettierg Рік тому +2

    Very talented artists ❤️

  • @throgmortonartstudio2402
    @throgmortonartstudio2402 Рік тому +1

    lol. I watched this and I thought, " why would I ever watch a video like this!" I was curious so I watched it. I love your take on Photo Realism. It made me laugh.

  • @timmypretzels
    @timmypretzels Рік тому +2

    "Even the pixels are pixelated here." 😂

  • @davesteps7918
    @davesteps7918 Рік тому +4

    Photo realism is easy????? yeah no it is not easy

  • @Zimbertica
    @Zimbertica Рік тому

    Popped eyes one reminds me of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I like it

  • @TMT42
    @TMT42 Рік тому +2

    Favourite artist , love your videos efe ❤

    • @Lazarusart
      @Lazarusart Рік тому

      Then I'm sorry you really need to raise your standards 😜 way better painters here on UA-cam you could actually learn something from.

  • @Vendelakall
    @Vendelakall Рік тому +1

    About the no happy people comment - I painted a very happy smiling baby!
    Great video, thanks a lot :)

  • @Herr_Vorragender
    @Herr_Vorragender Рік тому +1

    "photorealism is the easiest and least complex style of art"
    "If there was a letter of disciplines, photorealism would be at the very bottom"
    😭😭😭
    And there is I, wanting desperatly to caputre the beauty of things, animals and people.
    Thinking if I capture these things of beauty, they get engrained into my mind. So that when I close my eyes I will only see the nicest of pictures in my mind.
    Wellp, I guess I'll stick to being an IT-dude 🤷‍♂

  • @robertalexander2478
    @robertalexander2478 Рік тому

    I never draw or paint smiling portraits, starting to this somethings wrong with me, lol

  • @teslainvestah5003
    @teslainvestah5003 День тому

    13:49 most savage roast in this video.

  • @greenevans50
    @greenevans50 Рік тому

    How can I submit a work for roasting?😅. I would really want to know what you would say

  • @reijoshualadjahasan
    @reijoshualadjahasan Рік тому

    when does this roasting happen huhuhu I always miss joining

  • @abbigalebeerer6832
    @abbigalebeerer6832 Рік тому +1

    Lots of people here lil upsetti spaghetti about the photo realism thing but I understand what he means. It is easy to just copy what is in front of you but, can you take whats in front of you and make it more interesting? It takes no creative or imaginative skills to do realism. I think thats why he is saying it is the easiest.

  • @FIZZGIG-RARF
    @FIZZGIG-RARF 10 місяців тому

    "Remember me Eddie!? When i looking just...Like... THIS!?"😊😂

  • @toddpacker867
    @toddpacker867 Рік тому

    When are you doing your next roast? I need to be apart of this

  • @syednazeer6921
    @syednazeer6921 Рік тому +11

    Idk why people think just because something isn't creative = easy
    That drawing of cherries was beyond impressive Idc

  • @siddharthjain2137
    @siddharthjain2137 Рік тому +1

    14:37 didn't get what you said but thanks for the roast 👻

  • @velvet5196
    @velvet5196 Рік тому +4

    Realism is copying to me so I really don't like it much but I can appreciate the talent. The best art comes from artists who could do it, but don't. The creativity of a painting is what attracts me to it. If I wanted perfect I would take a picture.

  • @tabuena.fineart
    @tabuena.fineart Рік тому

    Interesting 🔥🙌

  • @LarsRichterMedia
    @LarsRichterMedia Рік тому +1

    at 15:09 the portrait he talks about lacking paint, isn't that a digital one?

    • @endlessstudent3512
      @endlessstudent3512 Рік тому +1

      Yes that clearly is digital art. So the comment it lacks paint is kinda funny.

  • @ITcanB
    @ITcanB Рік тому +1

    I prefer the portrait that was painted without reference to the profile, the first was interesting the second not interesting at all.

  • @nightowl5703
    @nightowl5703 Рік тому

    The pic of girl you kept on thumbnail resonates one Indian actress!!! I forgot her name, but your thumbnail pic reminded me of her!!!🍂

  • @pauldesert2541
    @pauldesert2541 Рік тому +4

    Photo realistic paintings take skills too and I think it's a really hot take to say that it takes the least skill to make one. For me it's more tedious because there's a lot of details to include, no difficulty of simplification, and overall I just find it boring looking at photorealistic art works. You could just look at the original photograph because it's a replica. But if artists are happy making them, then good for them. Do what you wanna do

  • @josephinfiniroemer
    @josephinfiniroemer Рік тому

    zu 4:16 - doooch, ich hatte ne lächelnde / grinsende Person gemalt, aber der Hashtag hatte nach ein paar Tagen nicht mehr funktioniert, also wurde das Bild nicht gelistet, mega ärgerlich uwu
    great video

  • @TheopticnerveX
    @TheopticnerveX Рік тому

    How do I submit???

  • @amithhegde7753
    @amithhegde7753 Рік тому +1

    Ohhhhh finallyyyyy..

  • @kevinmcgrath9109
    @kevinmcgrath9109 Рік тому +4

    The girl's face with very dry paint - it looks like a digital brush to me that has a uniform texture effect. We sure its physical paint?

    • @AlpayEfe
      @AlpayEfe  Рік тому +2

      i thought so too but it says acrylic

    • @adam-gaoui
      @adam-gaoui Рік тому +6

      I can confirm that this painting is made with acrylics as I was the one who actually painted this ;). I struggle a lot making the acryl appear more fluid as it dries so quickly. And indeed the canvas I used may not be the best call as it was to textured which made the face look less smooth up close.

  • @earthernut4073
    @earthernut4073 11 місяців тому

    Photorealism takes a tremendous amount of skill but not much of artistic creativity. So it's more like a talent not an art.

  • @duygukurtulus185
    @duygukurtulus185 Рік тому

    👍good tips

  • @daniahamweih5929
    @daniahamweih5929 Рік тому +4

    These videos never go wrong

  • @LiobaBrueckner
    @LiobaBrueckner Рік тому +3

    Hilarious! 😁

  • @tatyannafrancis9935
    @tatyannafrancis9935 Рік тому +7

    I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT PHOTOREALISM I’m glad someone has said it

    • @endlessstudent3512
      @endlessstudent3512 Рік тому

      and another one who does not have the ability tp paint photorealism :D

  • @roxisone
    @roxisone Рік тому +4

    This vid was just not long enough.

    • @Lazarusart
      @Lazarusart Рік тому

      It was 16 minutes and 49 seconds too long :-)

  • @MrAlwinBabu
    @MrAlwinBabu Рік тому +1

    I have been reading the hashtag as (roast - meal - pay)

  • @hellokitty9452
    @hellokitty9452 Рік тому +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @robsonbarstow9355
    @robsonbarstow9355 7 місяців тому

    I hate critiques of art. The poor paper and poor paint could mean something deeper. Unless you’re going for something ultra realistic, it all depends. 3:35

  • @MssJoker1
    @MssJoker1 10 місяців тому

    When will be the next "(Roast and Review)? If there will be at all...

  • @LeadandInkArt
    @LeadandInkArt Рік тому +1

    Only people with talent say things are easy.. photo realistic drawings are not easy..