Did Jesus Condemn Homosexuality?
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Rather than asking in what way Jesus was influenced by 1st century Jewish society and its values, it is probably more helpful to ask in what ways am I unduly influenced by 21st century American society and its values. In order to attain holiness I need to conform to Christ, not the other way around.
Well said!
@@BrianHoldsworth back then the Pope woulda strung this guy up, now he hobnobs with him. So sick.
Jesus was not influenced by 1st century Jewish society, he was invented by 1st century Jewish society.
@@kevinkelly2162 So you don’t believe in Jesus, especially as LORD & SAVIOR OF THE 🌍. OK. So maybe you can at least try this one thing then. No harm no foul as they say right?
Ask Jesus if he’s Your Lord and Savior to jist give you one sure sign Maybe it’s something you can say you’ll pay attention to for one month even. Maybe it could be something as simple as someone approaching u in this month about your belief in the afterlife. Maybe they mention Jesus directly to you. Maybe if you experienced this and actually connected the dots a whole new world would be open to you. One in which you could find salvation. Try it please. 🙋🏻♀️🙏
@@kevinkelly2162 You seem very sure of that, are you seriously claiming that or are you just making a quip?
Keep in mind a lot of people died in agony when denying the ressurected Jesus would have spared them and others.
"Woe to those who call good evil, and evil good." (Isaiah 5:20)
Pray for John 8:44
I would say Catholic teaching calls something bad good. God himself says for man to be alone was not good, yet that is the churches teaching.
@@timothy2794 True, I prefer to use my own brain, and not just accept what others tell me I must think.
@@timothy2794 It's not my first choice, but I do appreciate the poetic and classic sound.
@@timothy2794 I personally prefer CSB, it was my first Bible after I got baptized, so it grew on me. I also found it to be closer to the original Greek, I still need more work in Hebrew though.
As someone who has same-sex attractions and is endeavoring to hold fast to Church teachings, thank you for saying this for myself and others to hear again. Unfortunately, people like Father Martin often build a bridge too far in trying to alleviate the existential fear that living a chaste life will result in us dying alone. Cases like that cause them to become enablers of grave sins instead of men like Father Mike Schmitz that we really need.
Can I ask you how you go about squaring this logically? You feel attracted to the Same sex...and most would find this to contradict God, however you fall on the other side of the fence and feel it your duty to abstain regardless of your desire.. how and why?
He is just apart of a masonic club, he ain’t trying to bridge anything. He just needs to sow devision.
@@lifewasgiventous1614 it’s easy, the soul is more important than the body. In other words he cares about the state of his own soul and what will happen after life than he does about temporary pleasure.
It leads to a more fulfilled life to be honest, I may not be gay but I know what it is like to go against your earthy desires.
@@stray_dog3960 and we are all wounded by Original Sin. No longer can we say that 'what comes naturally' is truly natural.
You are an inspiration for all who are fighting the good fight!
If we based our theology on what Jesus didn’t say, we could have an infinite number of sacraments
Scripture is deliberately silent at times
@@stephrichards4611 The Christ « Moses and the Prophets talked about me.... »
not true tho, He perfectly synthetized the Law in 2 commandments, which He repeats time and time again. Now, if you think that's not good enough, that's kinda of a you problem. Jesus never spoke a single word about homossexuality like Paul did, and BTW, there's a lot of debate whether the greek word MALAKOI really means gay in the context it was written, becase it's NEVER used to decribe homossexuals in ANY other ancient greek documents
@@paisanoarbr Homosexuality is not seen as identitarian in religion, that is a modern evil, it is seen as a disruptive transgressive act, which offends God and religion, whereas the rigid identitarian imposition is a trap. Much of generic concretization is an unsophisticated trap.
Religion offers the choice to say no to spoilt identities. Homosexual impulses have a positive and negative origins. What sex positive marketing refuses to allow discussed is sexual disgust can be
1) be eroticised (paradoxical response,)
2) a trauma avoidance response. Repetition compulsion.
3) fear also has a part to.play in avoidance,
4) as does human contrariness in the face of a tabu, the wormy apple.
Your asserions are absolutely false, both biblically abd historically. If you’re going to defend perversion, be intellectually honest enough to quit calling yourself a Christian.
Excellent. And as Scott Hahn has pointed out, we give that "one flesh" a name nine months after he or she has been conceived.
so any who can't conceive are doomed?
Jesus also said that He had not come to change even an iota of the law, but to amplify it.
so we can murder rude kiddies and all who have sex out of marriage then (lev 20;9-10)???????
Yeah, but you can't deny that he had concerns about some teachings of Moses x Hence, he was crucified for being misunderstood. X
@@annemariemcgowan9273 "Concerns" ??? Jesus is God, and Moses is a prophet of God. Jesus came to fulfill the Law, and so it stands.
@@annemariemcgowan9273 God gave Moses the law. Jesus fulfilled it; he nailed the curse of the law to the tree with him. The law never justifies anybody; it condemns. Christ took upon himself our condemnation that we might be reconciled to God. Christ had concerns about those who distorted the law, not the law itself.
How could a jew keep the law? If they performed a circumcision on the eighth day being a sabbath? Jesus told them Moses gave you the law and none of you keep it! The law was given that all might become guilty before God! Why? So they would see that they need a savior
As a former SSA-infected person - healed through Jesus - I am grateful for your clear words.
Validating sin is NOT an act of love, it is only a way to gain popularity among the weak-minded. It is a worldly act which damages the victims, often beyond repair.
What is SSA? Satanic Sexual Abuse?
What does SSA mean?
@@Jojo_Flake same sex attraction
@@artjimenez6530 oh thanks for the explanation! I was completely clueless ,
@@Jojo_Flake It's alright,was clueless myself. And still learning.
Of course He did. As part of the Godhead, the Second Person of the Trinity, He was present at the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Good point
Yeah, this is something that I've been thinking about recently
@@sueco_r because it looks like we are living there 😢
John 8:58, the Lamb of GOD.
That story also is a warning about using the stranger for your own good.
Jesus said Marriage is a Man and a Woman coming together and the two becoming one flesh. Also Jesus said he has not come to abolish the Law but to fulfillment it.
Im sure Jesus would support gays as well.
@@quint2857 Jesus would dine with them, and just by His mere presence, many would be converted to Him and leave their sinful lifestyles.
@@quint2857 Jesus loves the sinner like he loves us all but he HATES the sin.
@@quint2857 Yes Jesus would eat with the sinners, but he would also tell them to go and sin no more. Like the Samaritan woman at the well.
REALLY so we can still murder rude kiddies and kill all who have sex out of marriage as the old law says.....(lev 20;9-10) ....why did Jesus bother to die for us if he fulfilled nothing? Jesus is also God btw and God said marriage was also 1 man and many wives in the OT...did God lie?
It's shocking how many lay faithful know Scripture and Church teaching more than a Father Martin, who is a priest.
he is not a priest or a Christian but a stooge of the modern world who cannot seem satan in the details and his false teachings. He is a idiot. a sad idiot who is going down that road to hell and than when he dies wonders who he got there.
@@ElCid48 He needs our constant prayers. By the grace of God erroneous leaders will come back to the true teachings of God.
He knows them… He just craves popularity and power more than the cross. May the Lord have mercy of him!
There are tons of bad priests out there, it's not shocking... It's just sad because Fr. James continues to be given an audience and promoted by the church and bishops.
There are many leaders of the Church who choose to follow the trends at the times they are more concerned about their worldly life. I would attest that they are not actually believers but puppets.
Another thing to consider when debating supporters of same-sex couplings/marriage within the church is the fact that they would say that Christ said x because he was a man of his time is blasphemy on it's face and we shouldn't be afriad to accuse them of it when they do so. To suggest that something Christ said is in any regard wrong or only true in that time suggests imperfection on the part of God who is perfect by his divine nature. If someone says something that contradicts Christ, they are contradicting God because Christ is the Second person of Trinity which means he is God and God cannot err, and if you contradict God you are wrong period. And if any man says he knows more than God he is either insane or a liar and should be treated in the way which you would treat either one of those.
Jesus never hd aan issue with love, assume u do?
@@pastorbri sodomy isn't love. Anything done in sin is without love.
@@pastorbri so what sort of devil worshipping cult do you lead?
@@pastorbri you shouldn't have shown up here. I know what I'll be doing with my trolling apparatus this weekend. I don't need to make nasty comments when I can troll your notifications.
@@eagleofthesacredheart3170 Yes you fear me and Gods word don't you. And I don't blame you...I would be if I had been as fooled from stans homophobia as you are......as a satanist you even use his wording...trolls.....now everyone here can see you side with satan!
The reason the pulpit is pounded about this is bc it’s a sin being normalized as acceptable. Those who follow Jesus are following God. We don’t require Jesus to restate every single rule or law and the NT is not a transcript of every single thing he ever said, they are segments preserved.
do u miss it when homophobia was normalised, even though it was a sin?
How many in the churches have had more than one spouse? According to Jesus, they are all adulterers and have made others adulterers, too. Even looking upon a woman with lust, is adultery in your heart. What's the Old Testament penalty for adultery?
What did Jesus say about False Prophets? Matthew 24: 24. What did Jesus teach about that Temple in Jerusalem? Was Trump CHOSEN BY GOD to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem? "Oh shut up! Silly woman." said the reptile Donald with a grin. "You KNEW damn well I was a Snake, BEFORE you took me in. I'm going to bite you right on the pussy."
So MANY so Horribly taught. The Rapture is a LIE. "Left Behind" is ass-backward fiction. Matthew 13: 30. Final judgement for the devil and dragon (Revelation 12: 12-13) is set for 10/10/26. Daniel 7: 9-14.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom. I always get some much from your talks.
Homophobics tend to have a lack of wisdom old bean!
@@SouthernHiker Its true
"The same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. *Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed."* ~Luke 17
God help the homophobics then
Well said! God bless you and your efforts, your intentions, and those who assist you.
So well said, especially at the end. Thank you!
Father Martin's rhetorical style reminds me of Original Temptation to Eve: Now the serpent ... said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” Father Martin undermines morality by instantiating doubt about morality by seemingly conflating obsolete dietary or ritual laws with eternal moral laws in order to undermine them by juxtaposing what appears to be ridiculous with what is licit and moral.
In other words, it's a nuanced straw-man argument. Exaggerate the truth of morality by adding to it what we know to be untenable. Then attack this exaggeration and seem to win. Brian sees right through this and so do many at least subconsciously.
maybe thats why so many follow the sin filled homophobic lifestyle?
Great Video Mr. Holdsworth! Thank you!
how so
@@pastorbri believe it or not there are people who appreciate hearing the truth rather than the lies you tell yourself and others.
Excellent presentation! You concisely and logically show how Fr. Martin's "bridge" has no foundation in the Truth of Jesus Christ. "Have you not read..." indeed.
Its hard to believe a Catholic priest who speaks as Fr. Martin does can be taken seriously. Scripture has commandments, not suggestions, and they bring REAL freedom.
Many of us regard Fr. James Martin as less of a priest and more of a joke. More of an inappropriate, dirty joke, actually...
He and other currently publicly "popular" Jesuits have convinced some of us to regard Jesuits poorly as the default which individuals can overcome. It is a very sad thing for me as the first priest I knew personally as our parish pastor was a Jesuit. My whole family loved him and he was a frequent dinner guest in our home. I don't think he a James Martin would agree on much of anything.
What's shocking is that the church continues to give him such an audience. His voice is magnified when it should be quieted. He's not helping the church and it's scary to think of the damage he is doing to souls.
@@laurenfluder537 Unless, he's like a fisherman with a shiny lure...... all rainbow colours flashing in the sunshine of a pleasant pool, then suddenly "hooking them and reeling them in" to the true heart of Jesus. This may be a way to fish for men & lead them to truth. Perhaps it's his methods & intentions which are tolerated by Mother Church.
But Brian doesn't more so.....why use a verse on divorce to support marriage?
‘Before Abraham I am’ He said. He was there at Sodom and Gomorrah. We know wat happened there and why. Something to do with sodomy?
John 8:12-"58"
"Before Abraham was born, I AM"
Beware of Matthew 6:2, 7:21-23, 10:15, 18:6 & Luke 6:46-49
cool then, let's repeat everything the jews did and believe in. Oh wait...
nothing to do with sodomy, but not helping the poor n needy (ezek 16;49) or did God lie?
@@pastorbri what is the meaning of sodomy? If follow you correctly, if I am greedy and I don’t want to help the poor, does that make me a sodomite?
James Martin is a dangerous man. A wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Before he went down this rabbit hole he wrote a great book “my life with the saints”. Worth checking out.
Pray for James Martin.
all homophobics are wolves in sheeps clothing!
For fear of appearing naive, who is James Altman and what is his dangerous path?
Great video. Thank you! God Bless 🙏🏻
The thing I don't get is why none, absolutely nada, of these homosexual priests and bishops have the courage of their convictions and just admit what they really believe and resign.
Because outside of the church, they have no skills or special status.
Yes, truthfully confess that they are, "practicing," homosexuals. That said, Sodomy is condemned in the Old Testament. The male/male and female/female.
or the guts and desire not to encourage this sin or remove it from their lives. and they will be the first to cry a storm when they are denied heaven and sent to hell for leading other souls there as well as theirs. enjoy your lust now. here is hoping you do not get colon cancer or any other problem there. I heard a story about a baby boy who was abandon in a muslim camp and a young missionary came around this little soul. his butt was so abuse and torn that in order to save this little one, he needed a operation. damn those who cause this to happen and damn you all who encourage this evil agenda on our children. you will pay. karma will get you and it will be hard
because they are not all LGBT obviously old bean, but people who won't follow the homophobic lifestyle choice you do.
@@pastorbri brush up on your scripture maybe? and I am not "phobic", but I am afraid for their salvation. and my own.
Im glad I found your channel because you're answering all my questions that i always had. Thank you so much, and keep up the great work . Let's all stay true to our faith until the end.
This is excellent! Thank you.
how so?
Thank you Brian. It’s so important to hear the TRUTH. Father Martin is leading people in the wrong direction. 😞
Homophobics don't tell truths
@@pastorbrihomophobes* and yes we do.
@@onvogmasaj No you don't, you feed on lies. Lies are your food and drink Old bean.
@@pastorbri ok “pastor”
@@onvogmasaj Glad you agree "christian"!
Jesus’s teachings are for all times. Praise God. 🙏🏻
and he was anti homophobia.
@@pastorbri It’s not homophobia to recognize homosexual behavior is a sin.
@@kzbaby2002 That is exactly what homophobia means! That's like saying "Its not racist to know black behaviour is a sin"
@@pastorbri Let me ask you, do you think any other behaviors are sin? Which and why?
@@kzbaby2002 Homophobic behaviour like racist and sexist behaviour is aa sin, assume u disagree? Because it hurts people and encourages lies and some use Gods word as a weapon to support it which is offensive to God. Did you not know?
Great, succinct video, Brian!
how is the sin of homophobia great?
@@pastorbri homophobia is not a sin. Sodomy and lying which you do on a regular basis are sins.
I just had a thought. Jesus is the protagonist in everyone’s story whether people like it or not. Jesus knows what is right and that is the truth. He can only speak facts.
and he never condemned LGBT folk is a fact
I really appreciate your insights on the faith. Even though I've lived many years I'm still very ignorant, but always glad to learn. I'd like to see you comment on the thoughts of Richard Rohr- Someone my former girlfriend, partner holds up. Please keep up the good work...
Very well said, sir!
badly said sir
@@pastorbri you're just jealous because he's a real man and you're not.
Amazing job Brian. Thank you for all you do.
why when its not so?
Yea, Brian. We owe you so much.
You and the Pied Piper.
He ratified the moral injunctions of the law. Furthermore, His apostles condemned it explicitly.
and yet didn't
@@pastorbri "Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill."
[Matthew 5:17] quit lying sodomy is still a sin.
@@pastorbri Have you no fear of God? You must know this life is but a moment. What will you do when you stand in the judgment? Who will you make appeals to for help? Now, right now, is the time to die to your desires and ideas... to be conformed to Christ... and put away such wicked foolishness.
I don't understand why religions making gender an issue when temperament and character are more important about a person not gender itself...
This is very good!
how is the sin of homophobia good?
Thank you for your courageous rebuttals to counterfeiters.
even though they are wrong?
@@pastorbri to understand your question...who are the "they"?
@@kimlevesque6103if you have to ask that you haven’t been paying attention
When I listen to fr James I'm turning into Hank Hill: that boy ain't right, I tell you what.
Very very eloquent. Thank you
You are thankful for the sin of homophobia?
@@pastorbri I think that God adores anything that is loving. There is a difference between a lifestyle and a relationship. If two people are in love and committed to each other with the help of their higher power....this is beautiful. In my lifetime, what I've seen and still see in the gay male community is 'lifestyle' stuff....sex for the sake of sex I think is for beasts, not people striving to be spiritually evolved and closer to God or whatever you choose to call it. Sex is sacred, and even heterosexuals damage it greatly....It is all messed up, especially now. I'm not homophobic..I love to see my gay friends, and I'm thinking of two couples in specific, who deeply love each other and are close to their 70s now. I think Jesus would love that.
You are simply the best. Thank you.
Amen, and thank you for bringing this truthful message, Brian! We cannot allow ourselves to be conformed to the pattern of this world, but must be constantly transformed by the renewing of our minds, being knowledgeable of His Word, striving to accept & understand it, not trying to mold it so that it mimics whatever modern-day social issue seems to be popular at the time. Too many times will others attempt to justify sin based on what Jesus *didn't* say. That is the fallacy of arguing from silence, and we must be very careful not to engage in that, as Christians.
but homophobia is of the world and u seem ok with that?
@@pastorbri What is "homophobia"?
O Lord, have mercy on me. O Lord, protect me. O Lord, have mercy on me and on all those impious people who take the holy scriptures to distort and deturpate your message and use them as a weapon to legitimise hating on their fellow neighbour. O Lord, I humbly implore, have mercy on those people, for they can't know just how mistaken they are, how wrong-headed they are, in hating others. Enlighten them with your light of divine truth, for they don't know any better than to judge and hate and condemn others, as they view themselves your annointed paladins of divine justice. Forgive their arrogance and pride and vanity and hatred and murderous wrath, for they know not any better. Amen.
I'm pretty sure we Homosexuals are outnumbered by you christians, making you the 'pattern of this world' and the one who conforms to wickedness.
God chose the things of this world that you consider foolish to shame you and the things you consider wise and therefore your wisdom. Or did you skip that part of the NT?
@@jonathanhansen1222What is "faith"?
With regard to interpretation of Holy Scripture, is there some structure or are there any guidelines as to when one is meant to focus on any one of the four ways of interpreting it? As a simple example, how does one understand whether the "seven days" of creation is meant to be interpretted literally as days or more from a poetic sense instead? I know that it is already possible to find exegesis that is approved by our Church, but I'm interested in knowing what makes a particular interpretation standout as the true interpretation.
Don't ask hoomophobics as they make stuff up
Father Robert Spitzer's new book, the moral wisdom of the catholic church which I just finished reading, has a lengthy analysis on this topic.
As someone who engages in homosexuality, I am glad that this is up on UA-cam, that we have some freedom of speech, and I respect your opinion. Thank you for sharing.
Great commentary Brian!
how is the sin of homophobia great
Excellent session. I’m Catholic and I am repulsed by clergy that lead the faithful astray. May the Triune God save his people.
well as a catholic you will be ok with adding to Gods word too.
@@pastorbri God made his feelings toward sodomy pretty clear when he wiped out Sodom and Gomorrah.
Brian, you are incorrect. Paul has authority to proclaim God's word directly from Jesus Christ, given to Paul on the road to Damascus.
1 Corinthians 6:9:
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,"
God doesn't hate homosexuals, but homosexuality. It is a sin, period. Other sexual sins include heterosexual sex outside of marriage and lusting after someone of the opposite sex.
@@nathanhileman3848 Sorry but you are incorrect, yes, Paul does Paul has authority to proclaim God's word directly from Jesus Christ, given to Paul on the road to Damascus. But Paul never once addressed LGBT issues, you just hope he did. I see u used a modern bible to help your sin.....As only modern bibles slyly add in lines like homosexual or men who practice homosexuality, words Paul did not say, we know this is a lie because the word homosexual did not exist in Pauls day, as a word it did not exist till 1869.....why are u ok with this lie and a lie in Jesus name which is worse.....God doesn't hate you homophobics, but practicing the homophobic lifestyle is wrong and sinful. It is a sin, period. Other bigoted sins include racism or sexism also....Note Jesus only mentioned heterosexual lust outside of marriage and lusting after someone of the opposite sex.....clearly he has more of aan issue with heterosexuaality than LGBT issues! Think on that old bean.
O Lord, have mercy on me. O Lord, protect me. O Lord, have mercy on me and on all those impious people who take the holy scriptures to distort and deturpate your message and use them as a weapon to legitimise hating on their fellow neighbour. O Lord, I humbly implore, have mercy on those people, for they can't know just how mistaken they are, how wrong-headed they are, in hating others. Enlighten them with your light of divine truth, for they don't know any better than to judge and hate and condemn others, as they view themselves your annointed paladins of divine justice. Forgive their arrogance and pride and vanity and hatred and murderous wrath, for they know not any better. Amen.
Great commentary
how is the sin of homophobia great?
@@pastorbri I was talking about fact that you actually hold to the biblical view it is sinful and have not compromised as a lot of people have.
@@pastorbri homophobia is not a sin. Sodomy is a sin.
@@eagleofthesacredheart3170 As homophobia is a lifestyle of hate and bigotry...you think this is good? Do you follow satan? Seems like u do, as for sodomy, most heterosexuals do this and lesbians tend not to so in ur logic lesbians are ok......yes?
Great video, Brian. Honest, heartfelt and based in the Truth. Thank you very much.
Homophobics tend to not tell truths.
Well said. By the way, if Fr. Martin wants to dismiss the Old Testament in favor of the New Testament, he might want to see what the New Testament (particularly the letters of St. Paul) has to say on the subject of practicing homosexuality.
The Christ « My father and I are One. » ‘I come to fulfill the Law, not to cancel it. »
Book of Romans is quite clear on the subject.
He once made a tweet where he suggested “Paul got it wrong.”
@@IpCrackle I'm not surprised he would say something like that. But still, what hubris to deny the Word of God in favor of your own personal views. And this coming from a priest. Sad.
Which was nothing......assume ur on about romans 1 where paul condemned heterosexuals he knew doing same sex acts?
The bigger question is why Fr Martin’s Bishop hasn’t reprimanded him on his heresy and stopped it
its homophobia we need to stop
Fr. Martin teaches SIN. While Bishop Strickland is removed.
As a Christian, I have been struggling with this topic for a long time. I felt God directed me to your video to answer my questions. I agree with everything you say. Thank you. 🙏
You have a good way of explaining things.
It is sad that the Jesuits or the Vatican don't step in.
yes as satan hates it when we love one another
Wow, so well explained!!!
how so
Thank you so much, God bless you 🙏
you are thankful for the sin of homophobia?
@@pastorbri homophobia isn't a sin. Being a sodomite is a sin.
Thank you. Rationally thought out and explained.
but wrong
Martin's book, website is just apologia for his own homosexuality.
Martin, justification.......sounds familiar
Which appears to be prevalent amongst Jesuit priests. After hearing what their Superior General said about the devil, I have to wonder what they're being taught. And they are so proud of their extensive education.
Bingo.
Who knows? He might be a secret homosexual himself
@@blitzzkrieg1400 It's all about working as a team, lots of equity for the team members if Sodom is anything to go by.
Keep your good work going, Brian!!
how is telling lies good thing?
Excellent video Brian. As soon as you accept an excuse or explanation to change one set of established doctrine, you open an excuse or explanation to change everything and that bridge definitely leads to hell.
Awesomely spoken. Thank you, Brian.
But he is wrong
What these individuals don't realize is that homosexuality was basically unheard of in the culture of the time/place Jesus preached in, and therefore not in any need of condemnation. Hence Paul's expressing his shock about how the Romans 'exchanged truth for a lie'.
I don't know if that's true. I think the Macabees were fighting, in part, the hellenized culture around them which included that.
There has always been homosexuality.
lmfao are you trying to say that Jesus was ignorant and didn't know about everything? Is He a messenger of the I a.d. century jews or was He the messenger for the entire world?
@@kevinkelly2162 As a verb yes but only as a noun since just before the 20th century.
Taking on an identity of sin is a foolish act of self betrayal. Fetishized transgression is as old as Eden.
Hebephiliac exploitation is as old as time, possibly.
@@paisanoarbr Lots of straw men cluttering up the threads today.
Jesus condemned transgressive disruptive serial behaviours. St Paul was preaching in areas where transgressive goddess sex/death temples demanding inverted sacrifices were the norm.
Bigger picture and historical research.
Actually, He did say it. We just don't hear it or want to hear it. "You are Peter and on this rock I will build my Church." "I give you the keys to in heaven. What you bind will be bound. What you loose will be loosened." "He who hears you, hears me." "He who hates you, hates me and hates the One Who sent me."
If the Church says it, God accepts what the Church teaches.
so we know homophobics hate
Excellent insight
the sin of homophobi is not excellent
A chaste life is very liberating.
Who says that you must indulge in sex, that you can't control it?
"Father Martin"????....what a laugh!
He sounds like a Reformed Jew...."the Ten Suggestions...."!
I don’t understand why people who hate Christianity’s teachings, like James Martin, are Christians or in his case a priest. Why in the world did he decide to become a priest? Why doesn’t he leave the priesthood & the Church instead of staying in a religion that he doesn’t support? This is not just an angry or smart aleck comment; I’ve always wondered this about a wide range of Christianity-hating Christians & truly want to understand them.
Ditto!
thank you brian!!!!
you are greatful for the sin of homophobia?
The first part of this verse is literally translated as "And with a male you shall not lay lyings of a woman"( With a male,you cant have sex on the bed of a woman" )is what its saying,and that means a woman's bed is not to be adulterated with sperm emissions from another man,since a woman can only have her husband's emissions in her bed. They were strict on sperm defilement back then. This was done secularly and pagan religiously too where the pagan priestess's bed was her witness of two males having the affair ,as one male gave emission offering to her male priest. The 18:21 has a pagan practice mentioned right before verse 22,and this is all about pagan practices related to their religion as well.
Didn't Jesus say that He did not come to abolish the "Law" or the Prophets but to fulfill? If Jesus did not come to abolish the law of the old testament, then what is Father Martin's defense of homosexuality? I believe that Jesus also said something about any who change the least little bit of the law or breaks it and teaches this to others will be considered "Least" in the kingdom. Matt 5:17-20
So that's why Christians obey all of the Old Testament kosher laws, like not eating pork or shellfish, not sowing 2 kinds of seeds in a field, and not wearing mixed fabric garments. It all makes sense now!
This is a good video, and I agree with your conclusion, but it isn’t what I was expecting. What I was expecting was for you to cite Romans 1:26-27, which refers to homosexual relationships as “dishonorable passions.”
Maybe Jesus didn’t directly state “homosexuality is a sin” during His 30-ish years as a man, but He communicates through others such as Paul, Moses, etc. There’s a reason that the Bible is more than just the four gospels.
🤺☦️🇷🇺Jesus said He came to fulfil the old testament and not change it, and that not even one letter of the word of God can be changed ever, and so the new testament never changed and contradicted the old one, only expended it in different forms and manifestations for the gentiles who were not confined by God to the specific laws that Jews were obliged to keep, but THOSE basic tenants, of marriage, sexual conduct etc. are foundational for ALL mankind, since the time of Adam to Noah's sons, and anyone who doesn't understand those simple basic foundations can never call himself a Christian. Even the heretic Protestants understand that, and that says a lot🤦♂️
NO IT DOES NOT! Read the whole chapter, this is paul condemning heterosexuals doing same sex acts in idolotry cults.
*God the Father communicates it through Moses etc., not the Son - He does it through the apostles
THIS IS A GREAT VIDEO
- I genuinely think it would be interesting if you’d have a conversation with Dan McClellan.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 so right
Would it be too corny if I say you hit that one out of the park?
Thanks and God bless you...
why thank the sin of homophobia
@@pastorbri homophobia is not a sin. Sodomy is a sin and you have no right to demand to be treated with equity.
Amazing 🙏
I'm gay and Catholic. I've spent a great deal of time in prayer. I have felt God in my life and I have felt guided to do many things and give up many vices. I found help in reducing my alcohol consumption. I felt God guiding me to a better job where I'm in a better position to serve my community. I have many times been guided away from vice by God... but I never felt as if the love I have for my partner was wrong or evil. I don't feel that the Catholic Church must allow gay marriage, but I just don't think it is in and of itself a sin. That simply has not been my spiritual experience.
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Repent and never do any homosexual acts. It is condemned numerous times in the Pentateuch, Paul's writings, the Catholic Church, and is included in Jesus's statements on sexual immortality. Repent.
@@__Man_ Gosh, I wish I had sexual IMMORTALITY!
Our time in these temporary bodies is very short, we should strive to put off anything that could potentially send us to the wrong eternal destination.
@@trevorkuun199 Lots of people work on the Sabbath. Maybe they should be worried. Christians also don't celebrate the Sabbath on the right day. Maybe that's going to be the rule that pushes you over. Maybe Christians should keep Kosher. Maybe Peter was right and Paul was wrong. Or maybe the Sabbath was made for man and not Man for the Sabbath. The laws are for our benefit. Blindly adhering to them regardless of circumstance was something Jesus preached against numerous times.
There also isn’t a written rule that says batters can’t run out to the mound and beat the pitcher with the bat. Lots of stuff isn’t specified but is understood
I'm not actually Catholic, so I don't quite understand how Catholic church governance works, but I'm surprised that Father Martin isn't getting more push back from higher-level officials. It seems that Father Martin disagrees with the official Catholic teaching on homosexuality and I would a think that a bishop or someone in authority would tell him not to promote his ideas.
he flipped out recently when Francis called it a sin, unfortunately, he got on his red phone and made Francis backtrack somewhat...
Thank you for your work, Brian. It's awesome.
why when he is wrong
Reading what you want into the Bible, so you can get what you want out of it!
thats what homophobics have always done
“Freedom is the Trojan horse” this protestant brother heartedly agrees well said.
I think the pastor at my Catholic Church explains it well. Whenever Jesus was asked about moral laws, he strengthened them. The laws he abrogated or laws that have been abrogated by Christians pertain more to the material/physical, like dietary laws, circumcision, etc. We can also follow learn from Jesus's example in the adultery story - He prevents the woman from being stoned, but also tells her to stop her sinful behavior. Similarly, the Catholic Church says people with SSA should not face unjust discrimination, but same sex sex cannot be approved.
Good info Brian. I also like to point out in similar discussions that Jesus didn’t speak of rape, incest, etc. but obviously they are wrong as well.
@@destonswan2054 your logic is faulty here. Abortion is not an act between two consenting adults. It is an act between the mother and a non consenting preborn human. The lack of consent is analogous to rape but much more grave as it is an act that terminates an innocent life.
yes he did.....Jesus gave us 2 laws, one was to love your neighbour as urself, explaine how rape is loving.....
@@pastorbri ahem "Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill."
[Matthew 5:17]
@@eagleofthesacredheart3170 Do u hate Jesus ?????? He said he did not come to destroy the law but fulfill it, so he did not fulfill anything, so we re still under the old covinant? WOW. What a pointless death on the cross Jesus went through for u.....all for nothing......wow. You are so lost....
BTW do u still murder rude kiddies then or kill anyone who has sex out of marriage as the old law says u must then, its in lev 20;9-10.....so how many have you murdered today so far?
@@pastorbri begone boy rapist.
You are such a voice of reason and faith. Thank you.
and yet wrong also
When I hear remarks like "well Jesus never actually said....." I sometimes think of that story associated with WC Fields when he was on his deathbed. Apparently he asked for a Bible, and those attending to him said, but Mr Fields you were never a religious man! .... "Just looking for loopholes" was the actors reply 😃
New subscriber here. Very well articulated and succinct. Have you done a video about woke ideology infiltrating christianity? I look forwsrd to more informative videos as I am new to Christianity and religion in general.
I trust St. Paul not martin. And why did 🎉Sodom and Gorroma get destroyed
The Bible is clear why Sodom got destroyed. See Ezekiel 16: 49-50. Notice: not one word about homosexuality. (By the way, you should learn to spell "Gomorrah.")
GBU Brother 🙏🏻
A liberal friend of mine has given me a Fr. Martin book each year at Christmas. I leaf through it politely and have to admit he is a good writer which means he uses the figurative….often. That said, I’ve seen him on TV .Ike the old Steven Colbert show and he is quite different, smug and overconfident. There’s a contradiction in how he presents. like a chameleon. And now he’s had two very long sessions with fellow Jesuit, pope Francis.
Did you ever get that Spidey sense that something just ain’t right?
I do love this UA-cam site.
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homophobics are all smug and over confident.
@@pastorbri so Fr. Martin is homophobic?
"Have you not read...". Excellent
What was the original video from Fr. Martin?
a video on being christian no doubt as homophobics are not.
BRILLIANT!
how is supporting the sin of homophobia brilliant?
I literally thank God for Brian .
His wisdom is clarifying and edifying and encouraging .
I'm so grateful ....
I thank God for Jesus not a man
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Straining at gnats .
I thank God for Jesus AND for the people He puts in my life , through which He ministers to me . He ministers to me in many ways , and my brothers and sisters in Christ are among those ways .
But keep one- upping people . Apparently your ways is 'best' .
Ring bells as you pray and give alms , too ?
@@jackieann5494 Gods way is best. Not yours.
@@pastorbri
And you , too .
@@jackieann5494 My way is Gods way, yours is mans, I mean look how you ignore 1 tim 2;8-14!!! Shame on you!
This is a beautiful explanation. I have relatives that live this lifestyle, and it has caused division in my family.
Homophobia caused division, a lifestyle u chose to follow clearly.
@@pastorbri Robert is a good man your hatred of Christ and his true followers is the problem. The problem you have is you've clearly been taught wrong by someone into thinking you can do whatever you want but that's just not true and whoever taught you that is going to hell if they're not already there and you're following them.
Damn...... sounds like your family needs to reread the Bible. Didn't Yeshu' hang out only with sinners?
@@LordHizaki you've never read the bible.
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 Did your savior not take a prostitute as a follower? Or a tax collector? Deemed the worst of the time and he called them friend, nay he called them brothers and sisters. Yet this family scorns a sinner and divides their house, which according to your scripture "cannot stand". Try again sir.
But true , he never say IT , only someone before him and someone after him
Actually, Jesus DOES condemn the practice. The Greek word for “fornication” or “sexual immorality” (depending on the translation) is “porneia,” which encompasses any sexual practice between people not married to each other, which would by default include homosexual practice. Jesus uses the word “porneia” in the gospels, meaning He addressed the issue, even if it was not as directly as other sins.
I’d also like to point out that, if we’re going to go down the “Jesus didn’t say it” road, that Jesus didn’t specifically address rape or incest either. So according to the logic of Martiin, rape and incest are also okay.
And finally, it is also a subtle jab at the authority of St. Paul’s apostolic letters, as the issue is also addressed in Romans 1, I Corinthians 6, and I Timothy 1.
actually no he doesn't
The devil quoted scripture and twisted it.
Thats homophobics for u
That will be found in Shakespeare -- Merchant of Venice, I believe. It is not in the Bible.
Was Trump CHOSEN by God to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem -- so the Sanhedrin can renew their rituals of smoke and blood for the remission of our sins and finally get rid of Jesus and the cross? 100's of millions deceived by the False Prophets and faith-healers of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Matthew 24: 24. So MANY so Horribly taught. The Rapture is a LIE. "Left Behind" is ass-backward fiction. Matthew 13: 30. Final judgement for the devil and dragon -- Revelation 12: 12-13 -- is set for 10/10/26. Daniel 7: 9-14.
Thank you
your thankful for the sin of homophobia?
Bravo! High time that that priest was shown up. I am disinclined to use his name because I cannot use the word 'Father' for him. It is a mystery to me why he is allowed to go on as he does.
Mr. Holdsworth, I pray for you because you do a magnificent job for us.
yes how dare a priest support people you don't like. LMAO