Mongols EASY Build Order Guide & Tips! The Four Horsemen (Age of Empires 4)

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  • Playing the Mongols in Age of Empires IV is a unique and intimidating gameplay experience. The Four Horseman build order makes it easier to hit the ground running (15% faster!).
    Age of Empires IV is a Real Time Strategy game released in 2021 by Relic Entertainment for Microsoft Studios.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 122

  • @kvt1842
    @kvt1842 2 роки тому +60

    Love the video and the SC2 references! Having AoE4 contents on the channel would bring a new taste to the mix. I'd vote for more educational and entertaining stuff about AoE4

  • @WinterStarcraft
    @WinterStarcraft  2 роки тому +19

    Hey I'd like to update this after a couple weeks! The Ovoo (uWu) is actually way more powerful than I originally realized, you can build TWO (2) units for sometimes less than the price of 1. I now recommend adding an Ovoo into the build before the stable and building on it. I will update the build order guide after a patch or two once things have settled but I wanted tot make sure people have updated information :)
    Adding on archers and then RAMS is usually a strong follow up to the early horseman play, currently RAMS are incredible. RAM your friends today for me!

    • @kingremus7544
      @kingremus7544 2 роки тому +1

      how do i defend my base if i dont have walls and am forced to place my buildings forward next to the oovoo?

    • @TheTamrielDrunkard
      @TheTamrielDrunkard 2 роки тому +2

      @@kingremus7544 The best defense is an overwhelming offense :)

    • @kingremus7544
      @kingremus7544 2 роки тому

      @@TheTamrielDrunkard meaning that Mongols are best for high apm players? Somehow I struggle more with simultaneous Makro and Mikro in aoe4 then aoe2 :/

  • @LowkoTV
    @LowkoTV 2 роки тому +111

    The UwU sounds a bit overpowered to be honest...

    • @Legapur9
      @Legapur9 2 роки тому +1

      nah, every civ has really strong things, the ovoo is really strong, but not moreso than the others. I think the mangudai however are insane and might be overpowered

    • @KennyKenKin
      @KennyKenKin 2 роки тому +1

      @@Legapur9 only if your opponent leans heavy into infantry and calvary since you can kite but bad micro gets punished since they are kinda squishy and archers are cheap enough to outnumber them and win strait up fights. They are like mutalisk/phoenix hybrids lol

    • @SizeMcWave
      @SizeMcWave 2 роки тому +1

      I’ve been treating it like chronoboost, it allows for double unit production (even vils) for about 110% the resource for two units plus the stone. Vils and siege I have found Cost a lot of the stone resource to double produce.

    • @DatrikZGaming
      @DatrikZGaming 2 роки тому +1

      @@SizeMcWave Yeah have been using stone to double my infantry early game, nobody is able to come close to my military power and when I get to the last age, the stone production with 9 traders and the generator without stone outcrops is insane. Basically at this point it's game over LMAO

    • @BlackOps78321
      @BlackOps78321 2 роки тому +2

      You can only build 1 uwu/owo and then as you get to better players, you sort of need to use it (build buildings around it etc.). That puts a cap ultimately on what stone you can get. Though it sort of generates a free resource that is usually 'best used' to get a small discount and 2x instead of 1x units. It is hard to master and maybe underpowered too, but it's possible to win with. I think Mongols is underpowered but if you fail to do damage or to keep on pace then you will completely lose, so I was winning but it is clear the other civs with a better player are just easier, and you can just build any cheap wooden tower and has range and high damage to defeats early raids way too well; some of these fools played 100games already (like in 3 days). Microing into towers and getting snipes on attacking seems to do way more damage to the point it's not viable to try raiding if they build defensively. Then you boom and fight with a civ not really meant for it but you might win if they are unprepared or outplayed, they still get the general upgrades and can win. But it has potential to have some special things like AoM's norse where it might be better, but, it just takes extra effort and is worse otherwise. To have to spend time in a close game to unpack buildings and move to a new owo is a bit stupid, they can't produce in the time they move too. And not really sure that unpacking/repacking is useful overall but obviously in a late game time it might end up powerful once figured out. Last the super unique unit Mangudai is good but if you have to run when you have to fight or defend a rush or big attack on buildings then it's not very viable unless you have super micro and no lag.

  • @damelux3798
    @damelux3798 2 роки тому +29

    I think delaying the ovoo really isn't the play. Especially on a map like you had where you can have your TC in range of wood and gold, you don't need a ger that early (granted you're a bit more reliant on sheep finding) and you can use the extra wood to get the ovoo. Which let's you then get free horsemans or improved upgrade. You could have got 200 food extra by not paying horsemans.
    I will do some testings of my own, but even if the gold is not in range of the woodline for a good TC spot, i think splitting the initial villager between sheep and wood will allow to build the ger at gold without downtime, and i don't think the resulting delay in feudal time outmach the benefit of having 5 minutes of stone production.

    • @taco3006
      @taco3006 2 роки тому +1

      I have been thinking of some zergy strats with the mongols and that ovoo start really does help when you swap to production. Having your first wave effectively doubled kinda dope.

    • @lanceward7048
      @lanceward7048 2 роки тому

      Same!! Of course I have the benefit of hindsight since the video is months old, but when I saw him build his first stable NOT next to the ovoo I was like WHAAT?

  • @CharlesConover
    @CharlesConover 2 роки тому +10

    Can't wait for more guides brother. I gently request that you consider a Rus build order.

  • @WolfGangDealers
    @WolfGangDealers 2 роки тому +12

    I guess now’s a time as any to start getting into AoE if you’re putting out guides. Super excited for this content!

    • @gushlergushler
      @gushlergushler 2 роки тому

      If you search for someone to play a 2v2 or train 1v1 against, I'd be down if you decide to get it (=

  • @e.c.2853
    @e.c.2853 2 роки тому +12

    Need more guides to stomp the AI and fail miserably against OP french knights in multiplayer.

    • @Firrox
      @Firrox 2 роки тому

      My AI stomp is rush feudal age and get 4-6 mangodai and just make circles around the camp taking out villagers. 2 Archery ranges and 1 Stable for horsemen vs enemy archers. If they're close to their base, go for siege ASAP.

  • @EvilSmonker
    @EvilSmonker 2 роки тому +1

    I think getting your uvuu faster is much better since you can either spend the saved up stone on double military production for a faster and cheaper rush or a trade boom once you age up. Also the watchtowers are essential for Mongols after age 3 (or 2 if you get deer stones) as they give a massive speed buff to all the units making engagements more microable and economy better. Love that you're getting into aoe4, hope you continue playing my main civ (mongols).

  • @shadowofnoc5760
    @shadowofnoc5760 2 роки тому +1

    Whats worked for me is burning to feudal age and pumping out Mongol horse archers using the Ovoo's 2x build bonus, then going and specifically micro attacking all the enemies villagers. Completely destroys their eco early on. Just gotta make sure to get in before they get completed walls surrounding them up.

  • @vanimae
    @vanimae 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much for this guide! I'm new to the game and this helped me get started. You explained everything so well and the thought process behind it all.

  • @RockZerr
    @RockZerr 2 роки тому +2

    After trying a couple of time i don't feel this build. France and England often rush feudal and their landmarks also provide their strong units. By this time my horsemen are too late to effectivly disrupt my opp. I prefer the more aggressive build with sending 2 villiger for an aggressive outpost. Then i can for example deny the french gold so that they can't even begin to produce royal knights.

  • @skylarthuesmunn204
    @skylarthuesmunn204 2 роки тому +4

    yo winter opening straight into ovoo and splitting onto wood lets you hit with 4 horseman AT the 4 minute mark its kinda cheese but you can harass landmark creation

  • @mrperezoso
    @mrperezoso 2 роки тому

    What a great video. Very educational. Please keep doing videos of the mongols. Very few content creators play them and usually are not as good as you teaching. Thanks!!

  • @gushlergushler
    @gushlergushler 2 роки тому

    I was completely lost yesterday playing AoE4 for the first time, a guide is just what I needed.
    Liked and commented.

  • @justinn5357
    @justinn5357 2 роки тому

    Just had your video recommended to me, great commentary funny and witty. Like the jabs at the other Civs haha and supporting the one you are showing off in the video.
    Liked and subbed !

  • @RockZerr
    @RockZerr 2 роки тому

    thanks for the guide really helped me. The tip to transition to infantery is nice. Tried to spam to mangudai but they just lose to archers which a lot of people use anyway. Now I just use more horsemen in the beginning and transition to men at arms using the t3 tent, the khan and outpusts to buff my army and applying preasure to my oppoonent.

  • @armagedoc66
    @armagedoc66 2 роки тому +1

    A simple guide that makes one of the harder civs much easier. Thank you kindly!

  • @Matt-zj7qs
    @Matt-zj7qs 2 роки тому +13

    is delaying the ovoo really the play? I feel like getting the stone early for double unit production easily pays off the wood investment. Most interesting civ that's for sure!

    • @abrahamlincoln4691
      @abrahamlincoln4691 2 роки тому +3

      yeah same this ovoo is the play bro dont listen to this guide

    • @antonioperrella2574
      @antonioperrella2574 2 роки тому

      I think every thing about the guide except the ovoo bit is definitely worth noting he commented on the post that he’s gonna update the build order at a later time

  • @gsq0323
    @gsq0323 2 роки тому

    Very helpful, I am new too AoE and I have no idea what im doing and your video was very comprehensive time to experiment I guess!

  • @karu1585
    @karu1585 2 роки тому

    Man i like your style and voice. Looking forward to more stuff from you!

  • @XiangYu94
    @XiangYu94 2 роки тому +1

    1:33 that’s a good point about not rushing into the Ovoo - the mongol faction mechanics are new so players feel insecure without a TC

  • @Schrogs
    @Schrogs 2 роки тому +3

    Amazing thanks man. Can we do one next in China please! They are my favorite!!

  • @beetroot3211
    @beetroot3211 2 роки тому

    Thank you, this is a really nice intro to the game. Can't wait for the build order rap

  • @hishambibi3984
    @hishambibi3984 2 роки тому

    bro you are a savior, thank you so much for this ..
    more please

  • @cupacoopa1790
    @cupacoopa1790 2 роки тому

    This gameplay belong to early released AOE4, today we (mongol mains) usually build ovoo at the start of the game and 5 on wood at first too, 5 food, then move your 2 wood villager to gather food after build a stable on ovoo, last thing is gold need to be 3 at least. Mongols should be late for the early game bcs we need our army as soon as possible and begin to raid enemy.

  • @yuethongchoi4320
    @yuethongchoi4320 2 роки тому

    Good video. Love to see more on build order and decision making for each civ in the future.

  • @gediminasmorkys3589
    @gediminasmorkys3589 2 роки тому

    Good. Mongols to seem to be the pinnacle of asymetry in this game, and this is as good a start as any for a build order. I learned something more about the Ovoo as well.
    Had a bit of a senior moment watching you build the Ger at the town center (why?). Then I realized you want to start on food->wood before gold. Otherwise I would just build the Ger on gold and leave the builder there, mining.

  • @Pliskint
    @Pliskint 2 роки тому

    Thanks man, very useful. Althoug I tend to go mangonai to free snipe probably CQC units (spearmen)

  • @91zax
    @91zax 2 роки тому

    thanks for this. cant wait for more guides

  • @Muzzle801
    @Muzzle801 2 роки тому

    "I spot the berries, and the wood... And I say, let's setup camp"...
    That's what she said 🤣🤣🤣

  • @wb8047
    @wb8047 2 роки тому

    I like the guide dude! I'll give it a try right meow! Also, subscribed!

  • @Aceius
    @Aceius 2 роки тому +1

    I'll boost the algorithm and agree that I would like to see more of this content. Some keywords for you, Age of Empires 4, StarCraft, Strategy, Fire Emblem, Pokemon Snap

  • @jedimindtrick3391
    @jedimindtrick3391 2 роки тому +3

    Lol the four horsemen. Has five on thumbnail with a x through one haha

  • @BlueMaserati
    @BlueMaserati 2 роки тому

    Nice job Winter

  • @bogtv2477
    @bogtv2477 2 роки тому

    thanks for the video. needed something for finishing the mongol masteries. I think the ovoo just confused me

  • @thepigofminecraft
    @thepigofminecraft 2 роки тому

    Good stuff mate! Thanks!

  • @tyasbank
    @tyasbank 2 роки тому

    Interesting opening, I was wondering why you wouldn't use the Ovoo in conjuction with the town center? It ofcourse depends on where your initial stone lands. But I always try to take advantage of the early 2x villagers the Ovoo provides to the Town Center. It also buffs sheep production and it works well with a stable to produce double units.

    • @chrisi.d.m575
      @chrisi.d.m575 2 роки тому

      The answer from pros is the military units can gain advantage from more military outweighs the 2x villager. Map control and potential village kills

  • @aprilmayjoon
    @aprilmayjoon 2 роки тому +1

    Voice sounded very familiar and the references to Terran made me think, "oh this guy must have played some sc2" only to look at your ign and gooo ohhhhhh it's fking winter LUL. Good to see you evolving when th rts. Sc2 is dead and aoe is bound to take over. It's so much more friendlier for most people under rank diamond in sc2. Way slower on pace but similar skill cap as sc2 in terms of strat options.

  • @dufflitplaysgames
    @dufflitplaysgames 2 роки тому +3

    Yes gimme dat quality aoe content

  • @carlosmiguelteixeiraott3643
    @carlosmiguelteixeiraott3643 2 роки тому +3

    Quick, what's the equivalent of a pylon so I can forget to build it?

    • @KennyKenKin
      @KennyKenKin 2 роки тому

      None for the Mongols lol. But houses for everyone else 😁

  • @vernificusoccultus9353
    @vernificusoccultus9353 2 роки тому

    lovin it ! working it well in games.

  • @infernape28
    @infernape28 2 роки тому +1

    Does a website for aoe4 builds exist yet or do I need to create one?

  • @gabrielcotebrockman3220
    @gabrielcotebrockman3220 2 роки тому

    Hell yeah!! Lets go!

  • @faiaramaina
    @faiaramaina 2 роки тому +1

    Build is ok but you are so very wrong about the Oovo at the start. Best case is you get stone right next to wood.

    • @damelux3798
      @damelux3798 2 роки тому

      best case is wood near gold, so you can skip the ger, and plop ovoo for basically free.

  • @voidsentoni5977
    @voidsentoni5977 2 роки тому +3

    Review:
    I tried this strat and this non-Ovoo horseman raid is rather unstable, it is a little too finicky for follow up (archer/spearman).
    4 horsemen single recruit is rather too expensive, you cant replenish your numbers fast enough as you did not gather stone early on.
    If the enemy anticipate early by countering you with spearmen, youre done for, as it is a bit late for you to catch up with archers.

  • @Oliviero0
    @Oliviero0 2 роки тому

    Thank you sir

  • @sirius1046
    @sirius1046 2 роки тому

    very helpful!

  • @rektifyer9620
    @rektifyer9620 2 роки тому +1

    theres a better strat where you can have 4 horsemen in enemy base at 3 mins

  • @z0mbyz624
    @z0mbyz624 2 роки тому

    More aoe4 content if you enjoy the game, I really like your SC2 content and I would appreciate quality content for aoe4 as well :)

  • @tacomaadventures540
    @tacomaadventures540 2 роки тому

    great video.

  • @cessnat7366
    @cessnat7366 2 роки тому +3

    These guides are here so thatwhen winter is doing angry coach aoe4 he has some material to bash his viewers with

    • @cessnat7366
      @cessnat7366 2 роки тому +2

      Also Winter tired of his SC2 guides being ignored he decided to branch out to being ignored in AoE 4

    • @gushlergushler
      @gushlergushler 2 роки тому

      @@cessnat7366 lol
      Can't wait for the "feudal age rap" or sth. as the counterpart to the hitsingle build a fucking orbital

  • @lonedog9025
    @lonedog9025 2 роки тому

    Great video, can I ask how you paused the game?

  • @benwinter5926
    @benwinter5926 2 роки тому +1

    Can you give some Tips for how to Sim city with Chinaes to get good Gold income with 200% tax Landmark

  • @howzany6832
    @howzany6832 2 роки тому

    Do Mongols have Archer Cav? They are famous historically for having great horse archery...

  • @Kaiasky
    @Kaiasky 2 роки тому

    Are you gonna do the campaign? I think it'd be fun to watch

  • @stevenspiteri6530
    @stevenspiteri6530 2 роки тому +1

    An idea for some content, Bronze Age Heroes.

  • @davidnovak3072
    @davidnovak3072 2 роки тому

    @WinterStarcraft @LowkoTV let's make community around this game!

  • @lazyjorge
    @lazyjorge 2 роки тому

    How did you aged without even click in... There is an hotkey for that?

  • @Glorvox
    @Glorvox 2 роки тому

    idk why this has any dislikes. Thanks for the tips brotha

  • @lucreumers7566
    @lucreumers7566 2 роки тому

    Nice

  • @FantasticU
    @FantasticU 2 роки тому +1

    Cant wait for aoe4 bronze league heroes

  • @Nolsie
    @Nolsie 2 роки тому

    Do a HRE build order!

  • @jaguarpaw7626
    @jaguarpaw7626 2 роки тому +1

    Got it

  • @vladmatei1958
    @vladmatei1958 2 роки тому

    winterstarcraft: what did you learn from all this?
    me: uwu

  • @jonnyb6700
    @jonnyb6700 2 роки тому

    What's the matchmaking like in AoE4? Do you play close to your skill level, or am I just going to get pummeled by AoE2 vets?

  • @justinjones3326
    @justinjones3326 2 роки тому +1

    2:00 did somebody say TERRRRRRENNNNNNNN

  • @SomethingScotty
    @SomethingScotty 2 роки тому

    The Four Horsemen of the Noobpocalypse?

  • @cleangaminganalysis8651
    @cleangaminganalysis8651 2 роки тому

    do you have to practice online or is there an offline mode?

  • @p.p.wienersson
    @p.p.wienersson 2 роки тому

    Is there a spawning tool equivalent for this game?

  • @iamtree4764
    @iamtree4764 2 роки тому

    Where did his face go?

  • @libinzhou1285
    @libinzhou1285 2 роки тому

    So does 733 have any particular order within it?

  • @blorby
    @blorby 2 роки тому

    Welcome back to some professional AoE4….

  • @sarby603
    @sarby603 2 роки тому

    I might have missed it but your build makes me wonder if it is worth to abuse the fire on building bonus mongols have if i recal correctly setting à building on fire should give you 50 of all resource. Dis u mess up à bit with this ? Or its too hard Esti y on to do ?

    • @damelux3798
      @damelux3798 2 роки тому +1

      With an earlier rush you can do that, yes. i often burn a house or a mining post with a light cav rush hitting around 3'30 tp 4' that allows a slightly smoother feudal transition but isn't always possible.

  • @IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIllIl
    @IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIllIl 2 роки тому

    Why do you place the ger at the start next to the TC? Isn't the TC like a ger?

    • @ungegelter31
      @ungegelter31 2 роки тому

      just so his villagers didnt have to move

  • @Haykke
    @Haykke 2 роки тому

    My horses have 9 dmg while some french guy has 20 dmg right at age 2, am I missing any upgrade?

    • @damelux3798
      @damelux3798 2 роки тому

      he is using heavy cav, you're using light cav. You'll loose every time in that scenario.
      That build doesn't counter french cav rush by any means, against french you want to hit way earlier or build spears/archer or mangudais/horsemans.

  • @NgohOiNei
    @NgohOiNei 2 роки тому

    Speedling build?

  • @olivierterrazzoni4944
    @olivierterrazzoni4944 2 роки тому

    how do you pause the game ? I can't

  • @GrooveSpaceArk
    @GrooveSpaceArk 2 роки тому

    Mongols need buffed imo

  • @commissar6860
    @commissar6860 2 роки тому

    One for the algorithm.

  • @johnburns6464
    @johnburns6464 2 роки тому

    Missing dat SC2 😕 😪 😆

  • @tony.p
    @tony.p 2 роки тому

    Anyone else have a potato PC that ran sc2 fine but ran aoe4 as if it was a calculator? Luckily steam let me return it :/

    • @westy1637
      @westy1637 2 роки тому

      Do you not check minimum and recommended requirements before buying games?

    • @tony.p
      @tony.p 2 роки тому

      @@westy1637 I did. The game ran fine the graphics just weren't nice enough for me. It's a litle deceptive. I had over the recommended minimum but couldn't get the game to run good on medium settings.

  • @RickWilcoxatGoogle
    @RickWilcoxatGoogle 2 роки тому

    I appreciate the video but the Obama inflections of your voice are distracting.

  • @TehGnomeh
    @TehGnomeh 2 роки тому

    Rus rus rus!

  • @Mightimus
    @Mightimus 2 роки тому

    Late ovoo is extra lame lol

  • @Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan
    @Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan 2 роки тому

    Age of Empires 4 needs some serious balancing. I now know of a unit that just overrides all counters. Just build a ton of them and that's it you won. Even if you hard counter this unit it doesn't matter. It somehow can nearly 1v1 it's "counter" units.
    I won't say what it is because it's bullshit and needs fixed.

  • @CannibalSheepQc
    @CannibalSheepQc 2 роки тому

    :3

  • @TonyTony-gw5vn
    @TonyTony-gw5vn 2 роки тому

    to weak

  • @ferrarilasko8213
    @ferrarilasko8213 2 роки тому

    lol how bad

  • @Deno2100
    @Deno2100 2 роки тому

    This game has no content. Its a shell of AOE 3 inspired by AOE 2.
    Total cash grab.

    • @westy1637
      @westy1637 2 роки тому

      If that's how you see it. I'm having fun playing with and against my friends. I'll get my money's worth. That is, the $0 I spent because it's free on xbox games pass for pc

    • @mikeg8925
      @mikeg8925 2 роки тому

      Plays completely differently to both.