Requires to see a manager about his future employment and at the least be put on a drivers awareness course. Overtaking in a hatched area is definitely a no no as well as the close proximity of his vehicle. He isn't thinking of both his own safety his passengers and your safety. No doubt the union would fight his corner. Running late or not is no excuse for driving like that.
The hatched road markings have broken surrounding lines, meaning you can cross them (with care and attention) to overtake. You cannot do this if the surrounding lines are solid.
Lol, I was just about to post a comment saying "Well no wonder he was tailgating you -- why were you driving so slow?" Then I read the channel name and realised my error. Dear oh dear, I need to go to bed...
Not good driving at all and a professional should know better! If the cyclist hit a pothole or had to make an emergency stop etc, it is not just that there may not be enough room for the bus to stop, but passenger safety must be taken into account as well and they could be thrown off their seats and seriously hurt themselves or even die from a head injury - it has happened and retraining was the least that should have occurred !
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 The Police agreed it was careless driving (which it was) and took the appropriate action, so they are the ones I will take notice of, not some youtube keyboard warrior like you, with no clue how to behave in a civilised society. The cyclist was doing nothing wrong. Luckily people with your motonormativity type attitude are getting less and less by the day, the world has changed buddy, try and keep up.
Absolutely correct and bus drivers are trained to look after their passengers which this driver was not. If this was one of my drivers he would be looking for alternative employment as he should not be in charge of a vehicle with members of the public on it.
They only tend to wait for somome to sit down before moving the bus if its an elderly person. Edit- if the passengers ain't elderly they are capable of standing if no seats are available
The drivers are doing a job and the most important part of that job is being on time. You can't blame them for not waiting. There are vertical bars throughout a bus corridor especially to allow people to hold onto while they find or exit a seat.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 and those vertical bars aren't very useful for many elderly, disabled or those carrying small children. besides the most important factor for buses in urban areas in this day and age is frequency not exact timing. real time status information has made bus timetables pretty useless, nobody really checks those any more
The roads are for everyone, if you are going at a slower pace than other vehicles for that road, where possible you should pull in and let them pass to clear the congestion.
@@lesliefuller1456 rule 169 if you read the highway code in the first place. "Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass."
@@douglasreid699 bikes don’t fall into that class. Rule 72, If you read the Highway Code in the first place? Cyclists should ride on the left in order to allow faster traffic to pass. He was riding as far to the left as possible.
@@lesliefuller1456 page 25 of a current version highway code: Rules for cyclists: These rules are in addition to those in the following sections, which apply to all vehicles (except the motorway section, rules 253-274). Rule 169 still applies to cyclists, searching the internet revels cyclists have been stopped by police for holding up traffic in the past under rule 169, the common one is 2 cyclists riding side by side. Back to my first comment, i answered the original comment saying a cyclist should let traffic go past if there are possibilities to move left into gaps. Now in the video the only option from what i remember was 1 junction they could have used, or slow and stop and move onto the pavement. Should they have done it, no, the gaps were not there to allow the traffic past but the point i was making is there is a rule that does apply if this cyclist went past gaps where they had the option and didnt take those options. It applies to all vehicles. My wife and i were coming back friday from a motorbike holiday, John o'Groats to Inverness, it was 30+mph winds, so when i had traffic behind me as i was doing 40 to 50mph to help stay in control through the gusts, i was pulling over to let faster traffic past when needed and options were available. When i drive i aim for best traffic flow. If i have someone tailgating me, depending on the situation, i have pulled to the side to let them go for my safety. The cyclist in this video could have pulled into the junction and let the bus go for their own safety. But the main point is the bus driver should know better and not be tailgating in the first place.
The bus driver was not driving as a professional should. However, the cyclist could also have made an effort to pull over to let the bus pass - it will need more time & roadspace to accelerate & pass the cyclist safely. What concerns me is that there is no actual indication of how far the bus actually was from the cyclist & i would contest this. Having said that the CCTV on the bus may have made a better judgement call.
There's no way he could have let the bus pass without stopping. If you mean he could have moved into the junction that would have been a very dangerous bit of cycling - prosecutable - and he could have hit or been hit by a car emerging. He would also have had to give way to any vehicle behind the bus thereby needing to stop. The bus didn't need to wait long for a space to overtake - that's not the issue, it's the tailgating,.
@@benedictearlson9044 You mean the cyclist would have had to wait for the line of cars that accumulated behind the bus because of the slow cyclist? It's funny how cyclists think nothing of inconveniencing motorists but if they themselves are inconvenienced by a motor vehicle........... well, that is totally unacceptable. " I am cyclist, motorists shall bow down before me." ........ hahahaaahahaaahahaaaaa
@@diffened No ed fend, my reply was to Robert who said he could have moved over and let the bus by 'without stopping'. I simply made the point that was not necessarily true. I wasn't saying letting traffic pass was an unacceptable inconvenience, and actually I always move over or stop when convenient on a bike on narrow roads - or speed up to ease traffic - as every other cyclist I know does. The fact is some roads are narrow, so YOU need to learn to live with sharing the roads because everyone has a right to use them. If you come across someone infront of you the HC says YOU must wait until there is a clear space to overtake. And YOU must not tailgate. Obey the law ed, like this cyclist does and stop being so entitled.
Sadly most bus drivers treat their bus like a racing car these days as they are very often more powerful and quicker then many cars. If you are unlucky to get a very young PCV driver behind you...he is probably just an ignorant twat. I drove PCV from 1981 until retirement in 2020 and the type of drivers recruited over those 39 years I was in it...went into the toilet!
Requires to see a manager about his future employment and at the least be put on a drivers awareness course. Overtaking in a hatched area is definitely a no no as well as the close proximity of his vehicle. He isn't thinking of both his own safety his passengers and your safety.
No doubt the union would fight his corner.
Running late or not is no excuse for driving like that.
The hatched road markings have broken surrounding lines, meaning you can cross them (with care and attention) to overtake. You cannot do this if the surrounding lines are solid.
Lol, I was just about to post a comment saying "Well no wonder he was tailgating you -- why were you driving so slow?" Then I read the channel name and realised my error. Dear oh dear, I need to go to bed...
lmao I was about to do the same thing, I thought the bus was tailgating an Essex cop car 🤣
Not good driving at all and a professional should know better! If the cyclist hit a pothole or had to make an emergency stop etc, it is not just that there may not be enough room for the bus to stop, but passenger safety must be taken into account as well and they could be thrown off their seats and seriously hurt themselves or even die from a head injury - it has happened and retraining was the least that should have occurred !
It's a fair point but if you're a cyclist and holding up a business vehicle like a bus, make an effort to get out of the way.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 The Police agreed it was careless driving (which it was) and took the appropriate action, so they are the ones I will take notice of, not some youtube keyboard warrior like you, with no clue how to behave in a civilised society. The cyclist was doing nothing wrong. Luckily people with your motonormativity type attitude are getting less and less by the day, the world has changed buddy, try and keep up.
Absolutely correct and bus drivers are trained to look after their passengers which this driver was not. If this was one of my drivers he would be looking for alternative employment as he should not be in charge of a vehicle with members of the public on it.
Notice how the drivers never wait for you to find a seat before they tear off from the bus stop?
They only tend to wait for somome to sit down before moving the bus if its an elderly person.
Edit- if the passengers ain't elderly they are capable of standing if no seats are available
The drivers are doing a job and the most important part of that job is being on time. You can't blame them for not waiting. There are vertical bars throughout a bus corridor especially to allow people to hold onto while they find or exit a seat.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 and those vertical bars aren't very useful for many elderly, disabled or those carrying small children. besides the most important factor for buses in urban areas in this day and age is frequency not exact timing. real time status information has made bus timetables pretty useless, nobody really checks those any more
Why should he let the bus pass? As some people have stated. He has priority. In the hierarchy, busses are last.
The roads are for everyone, if you are going at a slower pace than other vehicles for that road, where possible you should pull in and let them pass to clear the congestion.
@@douglasreid699 whereabouts in the Highway Code does it say that?
@@lesliefuller1456 rule 169 if you read the highway code in the first place.
"Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass."
@@douglasreid699 bikes don’t fall into that class. Rule 72, If you read the Highway Code in the first place? Cyclists should ride on the left in order to allow faster traffic to pass. He was riding as far to the left as possible.
@@lesliefuller1456 page 25 of a current version highway code: Rules for cyclists: These rules are in addition to those in the following sections, which apply to all vehicles (except the motorway section, rules 253-274).
Rule 169 still applies to cyclists, searching the internet revels cyclists have been stopped by police for holding up traffic in the past under rule 169, the common one is 2 cyclists riding side by side.
Back to my first comment, i answered the original comment saying a cyclist should let traffic go past if there are possibilities to move left into gaps. Now in the video the only option from what i remember was 1 junction they could have used, or slow and stop and move onto the pavement. Should they have done it, no, the gaps were not there to allow the traffic past but the point i was making is there is a rule that does apply if this cyclist went past gaps where they had the option and didnt take those options.
It applies to all vehicles. My wife and i were coming back friday from a motorbike holiday, John o'Groats to Inverness, it was 30+mph winds, so when i had traffic behind me as i was doing 40 to 50mph to help stay in control through the gusts, i was pulling over to let faster traffic past when needed and options were available. When i drive i aim for best traffic flow. If i have someone tailgating me, depending on the situation, i have pulled to the side to let them go for my safety.
The cyclist in this video could have pulled into the junction and let the bus go for their own safety. But the main point is the bus driver should know better and not be tailgating in the first place.
What a big brave bus driver. I wonder if he’d to same to horse rider tractor or car in limp home mode
The bus driver was not driving as a professional should. However, the cyclist could also have made an effort to pull over to let the bus pass - it will need more time & roadspace to accelerate & pass the cyclist safely. What concerns me is that there is no actual indication of how far the bus actually was from the cyclist & i would contest this. Having said that the CCTV on the bus may have made a better judgement call.
You had a left had turn you could have let him past on., without stopping., or did you not see him at that point..
is that really what you took from this video? if he'd fallen off due to a pothole/other obstacle he was going straight under the bus!
And after that, he couldn't take his place on the road?
Hey guy when your car is slower than an other, you let them pass?
Be honest just one second!
There's no way he could have let the bus pass without stopping. If you mean he could have moved into the junction that would have been a very dangerous bit of cycling - prosecutable - and he could have hit or been hit by a car emerging. He would also have had to give way to any vehicle behind the bus thereby needing to stop. The bus didn't need to wait long for a space to overtake - that's not the issue, it's the tailgating,.
@@benedictearlson9044 You mean the cyclist would have had to wait for the line of cars that accumulated behind the bus because of the slow cyclist? It's funny how cyclists think nothing of inconveniencing motorists but if they themselves are inconvenienced by a motor vehicle........... well, that is totally unacceptable. " I am cyclist, motorists shall bow down before me." ........ hahahaaahahaaahahaaaaa
@@diffened No ed fend, my reply was to Robert who said he could have moved over and let the bus by 'without stopping'. I simply made the point that was not necessarily true. I wasn't saying letting traffic pass was an unacceptable inconvenience, and actually I always move over or stop when convenient on a bike on narrow roads - or speed up to ease traffic - as every other cyclist I know does. The fact is some roads are narrow, so YOU need to learn to live with sharing the roads because everyone has a right to use them. If you come across someone infront of you the HC says YOU must wait until there is a clear space to overtake. And YOU must not tailgate. Obey the law ed, like this cyclist does and stop being so entitled.
Sadly most bus drivers treat their bus like a racing car these days as they are very often more powerful and quicker then many cars. If you are unlucky to get a very young PCV driver behind you...he is probably just an ignorant twat. I drove PCV from 1981 until retirement in 2020 and the type of drivers recruited over those 39 years I was in it...went into the toilet!
Man just said a bus goes faster than a car naahh 😂😂😂
so use the cycle path the kerbs have been lowered at great expense but some idiots have no sense.
How was that tailgating….get real
Use your commonsense matey.
try reading HWC. There's a very informative bit about stopping distances
at the closest point, there was no way that loaded double decker bus could have stopped in the distance it was following at
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