Indian Muslims And Rising Hindu Nationalism | Dr. Christophe Jaffrelot and Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy

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  • @billtensus
    @billtensus Рік тому +1822

    Next we will talk about "how USA democracy is in danger" in Beijing. And "World Peace" in Gaza.😂😂😂

  • @MOONLIGHT-zu4ru
    @MOONLIGHT-zu4ru Рік тому +1054

    A failed state is talking about democracy and minorities. Wow !!

  • @dpdevgan8353
    @dpdevgan8353 Рік тому +1594

    Why Pakistanis are concerned about indian Muslims and not Chinese Muslims?

  • @Victoryput
    @Victoryput Рік тому +2017

    Why does not this esteemed professor do the same kind of research regarding the state of minorities in Pakistan.

  • @anitasingh37
    @anitasingh37 Рік тому +2778

    It will be very helpful if Professor also study conditions of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh.

  • @mohsinafzaal7159
    @mohsinafzaal7159 Рік тому +276

    1:33:20 every country works for its own interests….. Muslims or not Muslims…..what has Muslim countries have done to stop the war in Gaza? Indian Muslims needs to get modern education keep religion inside their homes they don’t need to carry a Muslim banner on their foreheads become productive citizens of India …….make a difference…..modern education modern thinking is the key……Jai Hind 🙏

  • @kumaresan2
    @kumaresan2 Рік тому +549

    Why did the "elite" muslims who left india in 1947 not succeed in making pakistan glorious?

  • @kentcorrea1747
    @kentcorrea1747 Рік тому +1537

    I would have like to see a paper on Hindus and other religions in Pakistan. People are obsessed with India🇮🇳

  • @riderpikachu7403
    @riderpikachu7403 Рік тому +468

    I'll Summarise with this. Why Pakistan lag far behind India, is the prime example of why Muslims lag behind India.

  • @Yedamanus007
    @Yedamanus007 Рік тому +1416

    My respect towards Veer Savarkar is increasing day by day; thanks 🙏 to all theses intellectuals😂😂😂😂😂

  • @srinivasgupta
    @srinivasgupta Рік тому +1144

    Two main thing you have to remember 1. Hinduism is pluralistic by nature...A Hindu doesn't have any problem if you want to pray any other god or follow any religion unless you disturb them.
    2. the current movement of hindu unity is only because of divicive politics by nehru and congress where you appease Muslims by giving them unimaginable favours and facilities just for votes. imagine muslum population grew from 6% to 20% in 50 years

  • @jagdishjagwani7945
    @jagdishjagwani7945 Рік тому +560

    One important fact of India. In a Muslim dominated constituency, there has never been a Hindu representation to the Lok Sabha. On the other hand, that’s not the norm in Hindu dominated constituent. Again in those Muslim dominated constituents, the talk is mostly about religion. On the other hand, there is universal talk (mainly development) in non Muslim dominated areas.

  • @surajitray9001
    @surajitray9001 Рік тому +911

    I totally disagree with the guest lecturer. We never discriminate against the minority. We work hand and hand. In my professional career and personal, I have many Muslim friends. I stay in Mumbai. Even after the Mumbai serial blasts and 26/11, there were no riots in Mumbai. That itself shows the social harmony we have.
    I think professor Hoodbhyo should have more visualisation on the internal problem of Pakistan not India. That is the main problem of Pakistan, they spend all the good time investing in others instead of them.

  • @catgpsok
    @catgpsok Рік тому +1190

    Thats what makes me vote for BJP

  • @chandrasekharmogilisetti8209
    @chandrasekharmogilisetti8209 Рік тому +145

    This person did not study the CAA. Anyone can become Indian citizen if he stays for more than 11 years. But other than Muslims can get it in 6 years because all these countries he mentioned are Muslim countries.

  • @alokmehrotra893
    @alokmehrotra893 Рік тому +366

    Help me understand how will this discussion help Pakistan repay its debts or improve its economy or help feed its ‘Muslim’ population who can’t pay for food in current circumstances!

  • @AbhishekTiwari-cn8jk
    @AbhishekTiwari-cn8jk Рік тому +588

    You guys should discuss status of minorities in Pakistan too 😂 Hippocracy at highest level.

  • @gauravmathur3142
    @gauravmathur3142 Рік тому +220

    Did not answer shaqil chaudhary question, why are pak muslims worse off in education than Indian muslims?

  • @anujay81
    @anujay81 Рік тому +692

    Sanatan idealogy is secular in nature, which promotes pluralism, hence India 🇮🇳 is secular.

  • @udaisingh2509
    @udaisingh2509 Рік тому +423

    Truth will never be spoken that Nehru prohibited entry of Sadhus to North East India . After 1947, Verrier Elwin ( who began his career in India as a Christian missionary.) was asked by Nehru to find solutions to the problems that emerged among the tribal peoples living in the far northeastern corner of India, the North East Frontier Agency (NEFA). Elwin entered into an agreement with Nehru which prohibited the entry of Sadhus into Nagaland .[11]

  • @respectallfaith
    @respectallfaith Рік тому +239

    Why is it so difficult for intelligent people in Pakistan to change their Constitution to a Secular/Democratic.

  • @bijujoseph6798
    @bijujoseph6798 Рік тому +382

    It's funny. Dr. Christophe is complaining that Indians are successful abroad. Sir - we worked hard for it. It's not because of Mody or RSS.

  • @Northcommercial
    @Northcommercial Рік тому +360

    It will be the first time for me that I will vote in 2024 and thankyou so much for making my mind to vote for BJP 🙏🏼

  • @ahydershoaib107
    @ahydershoaib107 Рік тому +84

    Pakistan should care about their Muslim not Indian muslim

  • @vaibhavtiwari_-ekstudent485
    @vaibhavtiwari_-ekstudent485 Рік тому +119

    What are the dynamics of hindus in Pakistan is no more hidden, not even 1%,so please take care of your own economy which you get from IMF, india is a HINDU RASHTRA, JAI SHREE RAM, Jai hind❤🔥

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Рік тому +174

    A debate on state of education of muslims in India, in a country where 25 million children are out of school (Claps 👏👏👏)

  • @punchmukhi
    @punchmukhi Рік тому +324

    Since Dr Parvez Hoodboy talks about the Aryan Invasion Theory and looks for scientific evidence, I feel he should visit Rakhigarhi in Haryana and the Central DNA institute in India based in Lucknow that has done extensive ancient DNA mapping of the region. Since he is a scientist he would appreciate the extensive scientific work done in this space by Indian geneticists, archaeologists and scientists that provides a verifiable thesis on migration from Harappa (Rakhigarhi and other regions) to other regions in Asia. Would be an interesting exercise if you could get them on your show to probe and discuss this extensively.

  • @alokmehrotra893
    @alokmehrotra893 Рік тому +194

    It is so ironical that this seminar is happening in Pakistan. Pakistan shud look within itself and shud not worry about India.

  • @RakeshSharma-tz1wi
    @RakeshSharma-tz1wi Рік тому +442

    Hindutwa is not equivalent to Islamic extremism

  • @anjan67
    @anjan67 Рік тому +142

    Anything wrong with Hindu nationalism???

  • @nishant6392
    @nishant6392 Рік тому +693

    when a community has been given rights to manage your institutions in the Indian constitution, which in give rise to madrasas, then expecting more IAS, IPS from the same community is asking for too much, the community leaders of this minority has immensely failed them, therefore Uniform civil code is the need of the hour, so every section of the society can flourish together, other than thinking every thing is a conspiracy by yahood or hanood to marginalize this certain community.

  • @karsan69
    @karsan69 Рік тому +132

    India will be Hindurashtra. Anybody who does not believe in Hinduism is not needed in India. Because Hinduism is NOT A RELIGION. IT IS A WAY OF LIFE.

  • @snehajitadhya827
    @snehajitadhya827 Рік тому +584

    The irony is all the people sitting here have hindu ancestors thus they carry the same blood as us. So we are of same race and same genes.

  • @amanmishra6324
    @amanmishra6324 Рік тому +78

    Jab Muslim apni country main gair muslimo ko democracy aur secularism nhi dete to gair muslim country ko bhi apni country main democracy aur secularism sirf muslim ke liye nhi deni chaiye

  • @prabhakarpotu6617
    @prabhakarpotu6617 Рік тому +197

    what happened to minority population in Pakisthan since independence

  • @premicism9955
    @premicism9955 Рік тому +164

    Mr. You have invited yourself to trouble. Which book or classroom makes Muslims uncomfortable in India?
    IAS and IPS are purely on merit basis. There is no reservation based on religion.

  • @sridharsm366
    @sridharsm366 Рік тому +305

    We as Indians already are fed up with so many positive discriminations. The whole world is doing negative discrimination. We totally oppose one more positive discrimination in the name of Muslims.

  • @vjhon49
    @vjhon49 Рік тому +253

    Can you talk about the destroying of masajids, editing Quran, restricting islamic practices by the government in China?

  • @KararaJawaab
    @KararaJawaab Рік тому +270

    *_Thank You So Much. We'll Not Let Positive Descrimination Happen And Hold Indian Development Back._*
    *_I Am A Dalit. I Have Not Taken Any Quota Or Reservation To Grow Up On Socio-Economic Ladder._*
    *_I Don't Support Indescriminate Reservations Or Quota System Because, It Turns Out Into A Social Divide & Feeling Of Anger Among People._*
    *_No More Positive Descrimination._*
    *_Education Is Now Almost Freely Available To Everyone Of Us In Age Of Internet. You Can Learn Anything From Anywhere Can Compete With Anyone._*
    *_I Don't Think There's Any Descrimination In Exams. And With The Development In Technology, Education Is Democratized._*

  • @chandrasekharmogilisetti8209
    @chandrasekharmogilisetti8209 Рік тому +156

    Per Capita difference is due to number of people in family and it is very high in Muslim. No birth control in Muslims. Going to madrasas for education is the problem.

  • @nishikantsingh5595
    @nishikantsingh5595 Рік тому +558

    The Whole Socio-Political discourse of Pakistani state revolves around Modi & Hindutva😂😂😂😂.... Great going keep it up 👍👍

  • @SurajSingh-c2s3y
    @SurajSingh-c2s3y Рік тому +127

    Why not remember apj abdul kalam president by bjp

  • @ushachikoti4530
    @ushachikoti4530 Рік тому +85

    His study is very biased 😢he is not talking about the Kashmir where Hindus has been genocide so Hindus are scared of Muslims to be in our ruling party. We don’t want same fate as Kashmiri Hindus

  • @NeuzEmo
    @NeuzEmo Рік тому +105

    Why dont you do same analysis on your minority

  • @neelachaldash
    @neelachaldash Рік тому +163

    Baseless absurd thoughts presented as facts with a preoccupied prejudice in mind against Hindus. Totally disagree with the views tabled in the debate. This is not expected from the so-called intellectuals of the western world. May God bless you with real wisdom.

  • @mandeepnanda
    @mandeepnanda Рік тому +39

    Islamic republic of Pakistan talking about Hindu RAshtra and its problems. What a irony . Correct your house first. . Baateoin ke champion

  • @Him-hk2yz
    @Him-hk2yz Рік тому +54

    Why doesn’t Hoodboy make program on minority discrimination in Pakistan

  • @GuzzarAwan
    @GuzzarAwan Рік тому +49

    Muslims already get reservation under OBC categroy. What is he talking abt ??? From where this Gora has came , what r his credentials ??

  • @Prasanta22011
    @Prasanta22011 Рік тому +84

    Only vote for hindu party. To demolished Christan agenda

  • @dheerajsingh8947
    @dheerajsingh8947 Рік тому +53

    What never make any sense to me is why pakistani's are always worried about indian muslims but completly silent on chinese muslims. My Pakistani friends and intellectuals( if you have any ) please first take care of your own people and start that by first feeding them and please bring this galloping inflation down in your country and give some relive to your poor people.

  • @kashmiripundit5455
    @kashmiripundit5455 Рік тому +20

    two hypocrites discussing plight of muslims in india , and they become an ostrich to see plight of minorities in pakaaaastan specially hindus , the son of the soil ( subcontinent ) { used this phrase to make you happy that an RSS wala came and commented

  • @kartikshiroya2270
    @kartikshiroya2270 Рік тому +108

    Arab considers you second class Muslim converts... you still didn't able to understand 😅

  • @madhablalkarmaker9761
    @madhablalkarmaker9761 Рік тому +26

    Pakistanis' want India must continue as a secular country as it was during Neheru regime, but on the other hand they want Pakistan to thrive and continue as a pure "Islamic State". What a fun or purely Nuisance !!!

  • @bruno66yc
    @bruno66yc Рік тому +18

    As an outsider, while it is true that hindu nationalism is on the rise in India, it is still far more tolerant of minorities than Pakistan. Minorities of all sorts are all but gone in Pakistan. So instead of looking at the "plights" of Indian muslims in India, it is perhaps more productive to reflect on the plights of non-muslims in Pakistan.

  • @chandrasekharmogilisetti8209
    @chandrasekharmogilisetti8209 Рік тому +103

    Graduates are more Hindus because we care about education. Muslims due to their big family can't go for education and send into small petty jobs.

  • @pundirrajesh
    @pundirrajesh Рік тому +50

    It's very interesting he had nothing good to say About India ....

  • @terminator5812
    @terminator5812 Рік тому +20

    18:12 Matter of fact: There is no national language in India. We cherish our diversity with mutual respect and acceptance .

  • @sureshamin490
    @sureshamin490 Рік тому +34

    BJP doesn't have Muslim MPs because they do not have Muslim members. Tickets will be given to only BJP members. Hope you will agree.

  • @PramodPatil-ti1qk
    @PramodPatil-ti1qk Рік тому +40

    No need to discuss about Muslims in India or any other minorities discuss Hindus in Islamic countries....can you dare to discuss

  • @lkn1107
    @lkn1107 Рік тому +41

    Don’t worry we will send “Atta” to Pakistan. Stop all these nonsense. Begging for a billion dollars should not waste time on something bigger than your capabilities.

  • @CivilBridge
    @CivilBridge Рік тому +52

    Guess what, TMC and CPIM have destroyed West Bengal. Look up the economy numbers of the state. Its absolutely distressing. They are absolutely last. The new generation likes to vote for educated people who can present a vision. Its a competition. Democracy is a race. The better candidate wins. Its ok to have women's reservation but not other types of artificial construct based quota systems.

  • @mohsinafzaal7159
    @mohsinafzaal7159 Рік тому +31

    1:13:40 I hear this statement all the time that they are not representing “The Real Religion” …… so who is going to decide what the real religion is?

  • @pritammulaokar7549
    @pritammulaokar7549 Рік тому +41

    Pakistan should tell what happened to its minorities especially hindus?

  • @abhisheksang.9937
    @abhisheksang.9937 Рік тому +29

    what about muslim which are behind the bar in Europe more then ethnic

  • @bobmontrey
    @bobmontrey Рік тому +38

    This is so strange talking about India.. not uttering a single word of Pakistanis decline.. specially the country which is founded on the basis of religion. Come on guys..and to be honest..Muslims have to be progressive that is main difference why Indian Muslims are far more educated and advance than Pakistan Muslims

  • @rahulnkulkarni
    @rahulnkulkarni Рік тому +51

    I would like similar study for Hindus in Pakistan and bangaladesh and discuss on this channel 😂

  • @DipakBose-bq1vv
    @DipakBose-bq1vv 10 місяців тому +6

    India was not created as a secular state; secularism was imposed on the constitution in 1976 during the emergency rule and it was never ratified by the Parliament. If India is secular we have to forget about the Partition and the Refugee problem.

  • @Pramodsharma-uz8ix
    @Pramodsharma-uz8ix Рік тому +58

    "Indian Muslims And Rising Hindu Nationalism" Title itself describes their area of interest, these so-called professors are not discussing something great but as usual like any Pakistani, Islamist.

  • @kanya-7x
    @kanya-7x Рік тому +26

    Why you r not talking about minorities rights in pak ???
    What u had done with hindus n christian in pak since 1947 ?

  • @pritammulaokar7549
    @pritammulaokar7549 Рік тому +20

    They should be asked when muslims have equal or more rights, what about China demolishing Masjids and no one question but in India they just have one thing to say they are bad with muslims.

  • @Harshvardhankumar40
    @Harshvardhankumar40 Рік тому +49

    BJP will win again 🙏🙏

  • @bogusrevealer9890
    @bogusrevealer9890 Рік тому +78

    Pakistani may see difference between southern states and northen states. But in practice no such difference. 99.99 % of India's population considers India first and rest comes only after India. Crores of southern population settled all over India. So as nothern population.

  • @movieteamkannada7669
    @movieteamkannada7669 Рік тому +33

    First discuss about what happened to hindus of pakistan.why they are only 1 percent in pak?

  • @rajendrayande
    @rajendrayande Рік тому +36

    Request to hoodbhoy for arrange lecture on Pakistani minority like hindu Christian s and others minority . The lecture will be like this fighter and facts.

  • @nishant6392
    @nishant6392 Рік тому +50

    sorry, but the last time.., the quota system was introduced , it led to the patrician, the idea of quota on the basis of religion is dead on arrival.

  • @r.b.industries8935
    @r.b.industries8935 Рік тому +98

    Justice sachhar commitee found Muslims is much better placed in BJP/Modi run state Gujarat in govt and other life

  • @Keeping_it_reall
    @Keeping_it_reall Рік тому +42

    I would very much like to see similar results for Hindus and other minorities in Pakistan as well. Guess that will answer a lot of your questions.

  • @rohitp4952
    @rohitp4952 Рік тому +49

    Sorry sir, Hindi is not national language we don't have any national language.both Hindi and English are official language.

  • @durgeshvishwakarma8336
    @durgeshvishwakarma8336 Рік тому +46

    Pls ask from guest about minority representation in pakistan politics.😂

  • @sumitghosh9761
    @sumitghosh9761 Рік тому +31

    Mr. Intellectual tell your research on "Aryan invasion theory".

  • @ud1976
    @ud1976 Рік тому +137

    I’m glad Dr Hoodbhoy brought up the differential in outcomes in UK between immigrants from India and those from Pakistan. It was a bit surprising how CJ dismissed cultural differences out of hand.

  • @MistahP07
    @MistahP07 Рік тому +14

    It's amusing to see that two non - Indians talking about India while living outside of India 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @Sarthak010
    @Sarthak010 Рік тому +34

    When he said, India was created sechular... Khel khatam.

  • @SurajSingh-c2s3y
    @SurajSingh-c2s3y Рік тому +91

    Shahnawaz Hussain youngest MLA and minister by bjp

  • @kamrish009
    @kamrish009 Рік тому +49

    Thanks I have made my mind for the vote in elections due to this video.... Voting for Modi. Don't want to go back to Congress days... Was bad, really bad. Infra, incomes, services, opportunities and education everything is of good quality now. No return please... We want to cross the point of no return 😂

  • @sanjaygaikwad9643
    @sanjaygaikwad9643 Рік тому +65

    Ask GORA why today's Europe crying?

  • @sanjaygaikwad9643
    @sanjaygaikwad9643 Рік тому +40

    Parvez we don't want your thoughts, kindly educate your religion how to behave with minority

  • @Kuldeepsingh-pr6pq
    @Kuldeepsingh-pr6pq Рік тому +11

    India is more secular now than before. Previous Indian government (INC) was anti hindu

  • @cprijesh
    @cprijesh Рік тому +29

    In USA also indians are excelling in studies and highest-paid category jobs. Majority r hindus.
    ?????????😮

  • @Sk-cr2bl
    @Sk-cr2bl Рік тому +102

    Prof. hoodbhy should visit India to see the condition of minorities in India. All information about India is showing wrong and I'll inform information......🙈🙉🙊

  • @manthan8366
    @manthan8366 Рік тому +59

    Soon india will be hindu rastra

  • @kapilparashar3461
    @kapilparashar3461 Рік тому +36

    How this discussion will help Pakistani people in queue for grabbing a bag of rice/wheat? As far as Indian Muslim are concerned, let me tell you even if we push them to go to Pakistan on our expenses they will spit on Pakistan.😅

  • @srinivasgupta
    @srinivasgupta Рік тому +33

    India is more secular now than it was ....BJP does not do appeasement politics for Muslim votes

  • @ileshpopat1346
    @ileshpopat1346 Рік тому +29

    I really pity you guys sitting in Pakistan and talking about Indian muslims. Just ask any Muslim in India, whether he would like to migrate to Pakistan, the answer will be a big NO.

  • @Discover-Hidden
    @Discover-Hidden Рік тому +16

    They called guests from country which itself is responsible for India Pakistan conflict. And expect them to be non biased?! 😂😂 good luck.. They will only multiply this conflict!

  • @Vader19k8
    @Vader19k8 Рік тому +44

    I can bet not one hindu was in that room 😂

  • @Kafir-r8m
    @Kafir-r8m Рік тому +30

    Why don't you keep your discussion Pakistan centric .If you are so worried about the muslims in India then first you should open your borders for them. And if not then stop this hypocracy of worrying about them.😂😂😂😂

  • @dhiraj6380
    @dhiraj6380 Рік тому +150

    Great propaganda 😂😂😂

  • @phanghow2980
    @phanghow2980 Рік тому +56

    I use to see these channel but from now i will not follow… last i want to listen about india from Britisher……. These guys created divide and rule

  • @rameshchandrasrivastava7400
    @rameshchandrasrivastava7400 Рік тому +19

    Any comparitive study of Hindus in Pakistan.