2023 Super Duty Leveled on Carli Suspension Pintop System 37s and Factory Wheels
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Our 2023 project truck didn't stay stock for long! After realizing the new 23+ Ford Super Duty platform received changes to the radius arms and sway bar for added tire clearance, we got inspired to build the ultimate work truck, with a Carli Suspension Pintop level, and 37" Nitto Ridge Grapplers on the stock wheels. This isn't a setup that would have worked without wheel spacers previously, but now it's possible to clear a 37/12.5 tire with ZERO rubbing and no trimming!
This build is the perfect OEM+ setup with massively improved ride and handling, factory payload and towing, and a classy yet still aggressive look. If the bubba truck look is your thing, this is your setup!
#cjcoffroad #2023superduty #carlisuspension
Explore the full line of Carli level height Super Duty suspension systems: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/2-5-systems
You guys really bring the beast out of these trucks! Nice work guys!
Just wait until the next version!
@@CJCOffRoad Will the 37x13.50's work with a simple 2" Ready lift on the 2023?
Can't wait to see the E venture 4.5 for the 23s!!!
Just talked to James today about the 2023. Picking up my 2023 f-350 single cab tomorrow and want the commuter 2.5/3.5. Like the look of that. Thanks for the quick content
nice work team! We look forward to seeing each change you do and are super keen to see them come and have the steering on the "right" side :P
I love these big trucks. I'll never own one, but I'll always love them.
Like all the new options you have added. It is turning into a beast!
Yeah thats what im putting on mine.... What a beast!
You guys do a tremendous job on Ford HD'S and Ram HD'S. Do you also do work on the GM HD's too? Loving the look and performance of the new GM HD'S coming out.
They do not because of the front suspension design
@@justingalvan4050actually it’s more that they do not because ifs on a diesel is trash and there’s nothing you can really do to make them do what these trucks can.
Love an OEM+ look. Got a 22 Ram 2500 mega cab and did the carli level kit with fox shocks, and 35 inch toyos on the stock wheels with 1.5 inch hub centric spacers and I love it. I think it looks way better than my friends with aftermarket wheels and/or bigger lift kits. At 45/40 psi the ride is a night and day difference compared to stock. I work at a CJDR dealership and see a lot of custom trucks and imo an oem+ look is hard to beat
Just bought a 23 dodge crew dually. You guys should fly up to Canada to give this granite grey night edition limited some love. Just traded in my 1 ton carli truck on this one.
Great content
Looks fantastic!
That’s pretty sick.
This would be perfect. Should be a factory option called Tremor or something..lol
Thanks for showing us this
Unfortunately, you could probably pay to ship your truck to California, have these guys work on it and then ship it back across the country for less money than ford would charge.
Radius arms change is interesting, Ford knew 37/40s are going to be next gen HD rubber, what is the oem wheels width ? Ford's planing on staying 1st.
Looks amazing
I just picked mine up a couple days ago. I’ve been on the fence about the stock wheels or going with Methods. This turned out amazing! Definitely looking forward to seeing what you do next. It’s hard to decide which way to go on a build when there isn’t any out there yet. This is a great for all of us with a new 23’. And the bed steps and bumper steps are great! I’m 5’7” and they are great for working out of the truck. I had a GMC 2500 work truck and the bumper steps were very useful. I’m glad Ford added these! Any idea on a Tremor valance? My dealer sold me one, but it turned out to be a 20’-22’. I returned it and they couldn’t fine one for a 23’.
Dang that looks so good. I want to see the e-venture 4.5 system on the new 2023.
when are we going to get a flex test after the walk around to see if these 37’s will truly not rub with this Carli system? Love the video, I want an F250 now because of Carli but I really want to see the suspension flexed and see the tire stuffed a bit!
We’ve got plenty of videos showing that on our channel! 37s clear just fine at full stuff on 17+ Fords with the right wheels.
If you put a cab over camper on this truck does it cancel the XM radio, and other antenna on the roof of the truck?
Man, not even you guys can make that new super duty design look cool.
Keep it just like that.
What is the ride quality when keeping the factory leafs vs the full progressives? You mentioned keeping the factory ones which maintains towing capabilities...but ride quality/comfort?
I’ve never seen those Carli King before. Those set to be released later this year or 2025 ? I looked online and all they got as Pintop are Blue and Silver and Orange.
We offer them in custom finishes on our website and keep the black shocks in stock!
@CJCOffroad Love this. I plan on doing a pintop on a SuperDuty F250 when I get around to buying next year. Do you have a system that is not "leveled"? I want the full rake so when I have a load, the rear isn't lower. Half the year, I run a slide-in pop-up pickup camper (1600lb dry/2000lb wet plus add in camping and recovery gear) and would do Deaver full leaf pack to get rid of the leaf spring blocks and get full suspension travel. Might I need a custom leaf pack to get the lift I want (and sprung to take the camper all summer but not shake me to pieces running empty all winter)? Alternatively, do you have a front spring that is only 1" lift to match the 1" rear lift to keep the rake (but still provide better than stock ride and longer suspension travel up front)?
Also curious if you can show this truck and lift with 35"? I'm torn between the 37" and 35" tires. Would prefer the 37" for trail/offroad driving with the camper on, but am concerned about increased component wear and tear and the even bigger mileage drop compared to 35" tires. Plus, in the winter time, I like to run dedicated snow tires and 34.5 - 35" is the largest diameter those tend to run, hence why I'm considering only a 1" lift all the way around if a 2" looks odd with only 35" tires. Images of this truck with 35" would be a great help. If it doesn't look odd, then a 2" lift would give me the better offroad performance and 35" a happy medium on tire size and more tire choices. Thanks!
Don't drive off road at high speed. Most of my of road is on construction sites and dirt roads.
I want a great ride on road so my family doesn’t hate the harshness. Question are this (1) Which Carli lift gives the best ride for the least amount of money. Is there a company that has anything close to the Carli lifts but costs a lot less? (3) what mud terrains give the best ride, sound levels and longevity. (4) what are the best AT tires that will see a lot of snow and clay mud like you find in Ohio, NY, etc.
No need to re-gear when shifting to the 37s ?
Cut the front spoiler and black out the FORD insignias and then you got a perfect truck.
Once you see anything on 37’s you just can’t see it any other way. 37’s just look stock on this.
Quick questions. If they can’t be answered it’s alright. Doing all that around how much will it cost you?
& also by doing all of that, are you compromising towing capacity?
Thank you, & amazing job by the way they look super sick🤙🏽
You’re better off emailing them directly
This does not alter capacity in any way as we retained the stock rear leaf packs. That said, id you want better ride you can always do the full leaf packs and an airbag kit. As for cost, it really depends on the exact system and options, but here’s a link: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/2-5-systems
@@CJCOffRoad i appreciate your response! I’m looking into getting a truck. & I really like your work! So I’ll definitely be doing something like this! Thank you
Do they make that kit for the 23 F-450? Stock, it does feel considerably smoother than my 22 but it still needs some help up front.
I wonder if you need to level the 2023 Tremor to fit the 37’s since they are higher from the factory ?
Im sure they’ll fit . If you still want that level look id go for a reverse level in this case .
I wish cjc had my truck for 24 hours.
what was the height of the truck before the level kit and tires and what was it after? like overall height achieved?
I’m in my ‘23 ford xl SD 350 SRW ready for action, I’ve got my 24’s thinking 37’s what do I need 3.5 or 4.5 lift?
So carli commuter level will work the same on 23s?
Everything fits but the low mount stabilizer and radius arms.
@CJC Off Road thanks for the reply. Will be ordering soon
The front is not doing it for me
I have tried every way I can think of to build that tuck online and get those wheels but nope.
So would you be able to run the base leveling system to clear 37s?
Absolutely! Height is identical between the different level height systems.
I'm getting ready to order a 2024 F-350 Limited. What would your setup cost from the lift, tires, and wheels cost? Thanks for your time.
If you don't mind, email us at Sales@cjcoffroad.com so we can help as pricing depends on which parts and options you want.
I still need to pull a 25k gooseneck so this is my setup.
What do you guys use on the hose clamps on the shock reservoir? Is that shrink tubing or something?
Spot on! We use heat shrink for a cleaner look.
@@CJCOffRoad awesome it’s all in the details.
I’m getting the 2023 f350 for my next work truck. I want the king 3.0 ibp coil overs with stainless shafts with the universal e click sdi reservoirs, 3.0 smooth body ibp rears also with the sdi reservoirs, the deavers, Carli torsion bar, radius arms track bar, rear long travel air bags and ect…. Can this be done?
Can you guys help me, please. I installed a carli backcountry lift on my 2023 f250, some warning lights are coming on now.Who is responsible for resetting my sensors? The people who did my install told me to take it to a ford dealership. Another thing, I put fuel vapor offroad wheels and the rear caps won't fit, the hub won't let it happen. Is there a fix for that?
If the install went correctly, there should be no warning lights, so you'll want to work with your installer to figure out why and what's going on. As for the rear caps, you'll want to reach out to Fuel for deeper caps to fit the larger axles on the new Super Duty trucks.
The thing is so big it almost needs 38s, just so it can look proportional. Neat the factory wheels work though
We agree, but sadly the rear fenders become a limitation with 38s when trying to achieve full articulation.
So is it okay to run a 12.5 wide on the factory 8”
Wide wheel?
Yep! It's been done many, many times with no issues.
I know I love my 23 super duty
Is that the standard 3 inch lift with just shocks in the rear I’m looking to purchase
Correct! This is the base kit with only sway bar drops and end links added to correct the geometry up front and retain the stock sway bar.
Did you add a taller spring block in the rear? If so, what block did you add?
It’s a leveling kit. They just lifted the front to match the rear
I’m very aware that it is a leveling kit as I have a 2022 F350 Platinum that I installed a Carli Commuter leveling kit on. I know from my experience that this kit raises the front end 3.5” which makes it higher than the rear so I had to replace the factory 2” rear spring block with a factory 3” rear spring block like what was used on the 17-19 model trucks, and which is the same 3” block that is used on the Tremor model trucks. This is why I asked this question to CJC Offroad so they can tell me if they used a different block, as I’m sure they had to, and which one they used.
With the exception of this truck (so he says), all the other 2023 super duty’s are experiencing some rub with the 37 x 12.50 x 18 tires on stock rims that are on UA-cam, and they are leveled as well. Why ? 🤔
We've done multiple of these and have had multiple of our partner shops do them as well with no rub issues on 37/12.5 tires on the stock wheels. You have to be smart about what tire you use though. For example, and Toyo MT runs over the stated size. A Falken or BFG runs under. There's a lot of variance so it takes a little know how to pick a combo that works.
Hello Cody,
I have a '23 XLT with snow plow & camper prep package with the sport appearance package & XLT ultimate package. I tried putting 37x13.50R17E on Black Rhino Warlords 17x9 8x170 -12 matte black with dark tint rim. Did a test run thought it only needed a little trim on that plastic molding on the bottom inside of the fender. Realized it requires some aluminum trimming which I'm hesitant to do & still make it look good. I'm thinking same rim in a +12 will resolve that problem. Can you confirm. Measuring from the ground to the center of each wheel well gives me 41.5 to .75" in the front & about 43" in the rear. Thanks for your input.
Peter, you are correct. The issue with your setup us the offset. Moving to a +12 wheel will make for very minimal trimming.
@@CJCOffRoad Thanks
One more question how little is little, when you speak of trimming, as the first time my tire man tried on one tire we did the passenger side, he said it would be the same on the the driver's side, though I had vaguely remember that for whatever reason the driver side is a hair tighter on a left turn. He didn't have me turn it past the plastic molding & then back. I really want to totally exhaust the potential of 37's without much trimming on the plastic molding pieces. I'd like to keep them for that neat tie in of the wheel well liner & fender. Even on the -12 offset if you didn't mind say a 15° angle cut off the 90° of the aluminum and maybe have to loose that plastic piece as you'd likely one get one screw in it on the outer fender piece, but I couldn't get my head around that. I want something that gives that "protection" & helps it look factory finished, & not jury-rigged. I'd a good job trying of the excess plastic that allowed both screws to be used & that's what I'd like to be able to maintain.
@@CJCOffRoad I sent another question not sure how it will show up so hope you find it in our exchange & respond. Thanks.
Can I ask, what’s the out the door price on a pin top leveling kit? I have a 22 that I want to put 35s on, and this truck really only sees pavement since it’s my long commuter
Looking at the website, about $5k. I guess that isn't bad if the shocks are $4k lol.
How much is this set up
Is there a kit that will work with 23 super duty with front level sensors
We're using ForScan to shut that system off and removing the sensors as the readings are not accurate once you alter spring rates with new rear leaf packs. That said, there will likely be a solution to retain them coming, it's just that these trucks are so new we're still working on it! Sadly the load level Limited and Platinums are just trickling out from the factory, so it's been hard to get ahead of the curve on R&D.
@@CJCOffRoad thanks for the reply back
I had a dream that I was driving my '23 Lariat crew cab long bed to CJC for a full catalog build....
Damn I gotta make that happen
Ok, do the GMC HD AT4 next 😄
Funny you say that.... We have some plans!
The front suspension is what has kept me away from GM HD trucks forever, I’m stoked to see what can be done to get it on par with the solid axle platforms.
The front suspension is what has kept me away from GM HD trucks forever, I’m stoked to see what can be done to get it on par with the solid axle platforms.
You can never make everyone happy. Looks are subjective. I like the overall look. Not a huge fan of the grills, not a huge fan of the Lariat Grey A-pillars and grey headliner on a $89k truck.. love the Lariat sport package. Don’t care for the wheels in the Platinum, Limited and base wheels on the XLT and Lariat.
Got a 23 Platinum SRW LWB CC FX4 on order, waiting to see what the 4.5, 5.5 lift looks like...
Any trimming necessary for this setup?
We did zero trimming because the stock wheels are so sucked in at +40. For full articulation, all you'd need is some minimal fender liner trimming.
Wouĺd this lift look funny with just 35s?
Not at all!
What color is this?
Are those stock wheels wide enough for a 13.5 tire??
No, they are just going for looks, not function. This truck comes stock with a 8” wheel width. Should have a 8.5”-11” wheel width for a 13.5.😅😅
What size rear block ?
Just the stock rear block.
Has anyone towed a fifth wheel with 37’s? This transforms the SD from lawn mower guy truck to 🔥
It's no big deal. These trucks have a very smart 10 speed transmission that's pretty much always in the right gear regardless.
Is this a chevy? Really Ford?
Because it has 2 bed steps?
Bronze would look killer against this color
We agree. We're starting with a raw wheel to tie into the headlights, but we'll see where things go from there.
Maybe a silly question, where are y’all washing your trucks after you go over 86”? Don’t say by hand.
Honestly, by hand haha
If you’re lifting a truck that big, either you wash it by hand or pay a detailer
The 2022 Ford diesel models were in my opinion the best built Ford made. The 2022 grill and the Ford badge on the side with the blacked appearance package was the best! They new Ford badge on the 2023 and grill is UGLY! This truck now looks more like a Chevrolet but weak looking :/. I was going to get me a 2023 model but decided not to after I saw what Ford did to this beautiful truck :/.
Now I’m just interested in seeing the amazing work you did on this truck to actually make it look nice!
The lariat wheels are absolutely wonderful for the 2023-24 years in the sport appearance package. Not a big fan platinum or Limited wheels.
Just wish Ford would stop using light grey pillars and headliner in the lariat. A $90k truck should have matching coordinating materials. If in order the lariat with the tan leather inserts, ford install the black headliner.
With the massive union pay increases and management costs.. with EV losses I expect Fords president (another Harvard elitist) continue to reduce options for buyers, restrict production and collude with the competition to keep prices high and above the rate of inflation.
I thought it looked better stock.
Don't the springs lift it 3.5in front? I have the same truck and I am seeing 2.5in rake between front to back.
I did a 2” level on the front and replaced the 2” rear blocks with 1”. Perfect for me. Just my $0.02