'Shameful': Sir Lindsay Hoyle heckled for breaking precedent with Labour Gaza amendments
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Sir Lindsay Hoyle faced cries of “shameful” and “bring back Bercow” as he explained his reasoning for selecting both the Labour and the Government Gaza amendments.
The Commons Speaker said: “I can inform the House that there is a precedent for an official opposition spokesperson being called second in the debate and move an amendment before a minister was called to speak in the debate in the circumstances.”
Hoyle said Labour’s amendment will be voted on first, followed by the SNP motion and then the Government’s amendment.
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So the government can spend time with the opposition discussing some other countries problems but won't discuss and sort out our own problems okay
The government and opposition discuss UK problems all the time, but when it comes to a motion, if the opposition put forward a vote on anything to help with our own problems, the government won the last election with an 80 seat majority so they will just vote it down. For example 309 Conservative MPs voted against forcing rented homes to be made fit for human habitation. No Labour, Liberal Democrat or SNP MPs voted against it.
Currently, there aren’t any specific rules in effect requiring private landlords in England to provide properties that are ‘fit for human habitation’. Instead local authorities can force landlords to deal with serious health and safety hazards that pose risks to the people living in the property.
The government opposed a recent amendment that would have introduced such a rule for private rented properties, saying that it would add unnecessary regulation and cost to landlords, and ultimately higher rents for tenants.
87 or nearly 1 in 5 Conservative MPs are landlords. Maybe that is just a coincidence though.
Waken up. This is an important issue
People are starting to see who our governments really serve
ooooh mysterious! Care to give us a clue?
@@hadror13 Okay, I'll clear it up. It's Romania, we all serve Romania
A religion?
They are controlled from Israel
It’s hard to do all the work on your own when taking Saturdays off is compulsory .
We haven’t seen this level of Britishness in a long while. Order!
i can't read the word "order" without hearing John Bercow say it
@@mmww_ aw-deur
Awwwwwdaar
I used to be a proud Brit. Israel has exposed what a fool I've been.
Your comment does the same quite well.
@@stephenkane1074 Not as well as yours
Last Christmas George Michael?
Not as well as yours even more@@Randomstuffs261
Country has been overrun by people who hate everything the west stands for.
Voting on a ceasefire in London won’t make any difference to whatever is happening in the Middle East … why would it. It’s like voting for a ceasefire in Ukraine… well intentioned but futile… we have enough problems here to resolve right now.
Yes but we send Military aid to Israel
we send military aid to Israel, they rely on international support from us and the USA. Stop pretending geopolitics doesn't exist because doing so absolves your support for genocide
@@notsoaveragejoe7275 I agree, we do, as do many other countries but Hamas or Israel won’t worry about what we say in London
@@notsoaveragejoe7275 Correct and stopping that would send a real tangible message whilst doing nothing does nothing as @noonoo6079 seem to suggest is the right thing to do despite the murder of over 30,000 people.
Britain created the problem in the middle East
legalpdf is my new go-to for ediscovery and legal research - game changer!
The irony
They are calling for peace in an area they know little about, but can't get along with themselves while doing it
Good point.
👏👏👏
They created the problems in middle east
😂😂😂 so true well said. They are all a bunch of babies and idiots. Probably effects their wages this choice, thats why they are so sore about it 😂😂😂😂
What an utter waste of parliamentary time. Parliamentary virtue signalling
Truly, this is legislative air guitar.
Why do our Politicians think that anyone will take any notice. The only thing the rest of the World want is OUR MONEY
Your money? YOUR MONEY? *YOUR MONEY* ??? GIVE IT ALL BACK TO INDIA, YEMEN, SOMALIA, AFRICA, MIDDLE EAST!!!
@@hyderally8045
No
We need to exert pressure to stop the genocide . It’s a moral issue !!!!
Most of them weren't so bothered when John Bercow repeatedly did it to frustrate brexit negotiations with the EU.
Yes nothing new today
this ain't about a insignificant event breaking from Europe who cares this is about thousands of civilians lives shameful
Brexit was highly contested. The vote only passed by an extremely narrow margin, and most informed people and MPs were against it. Basically anyone with an education was against it
@shufflethemtrufflesbabey A victory for the UNWASHED 😮
It’s important for those in power to implement justice, not use the best legal teams to evade it
...to what end btw does this solve the cost of living crisis?
Wouldn't that be a better use of their time?
All of those MPs should be ashamed of themselves...
Gaza is not UK, what are they even deciding for?
Because the UK sends military aid to Israel.
@@Afghan31 and? We cant force Israel to ceasefire? See how that went for the UN?
this is labour tryin gto get the islam terrorist votes
Ok but they can withold military aid and pressure Israel for a ceasefire.@@TheDangoNinja
@@TheDangoNinja last time I checked Iraq, Syria and Libya were bombed for less. Why is it acceptable to destroy some countries but not others?
why are they so concerned about gaza , its the british govt and their major concern should be first and foremost the uk , stop the protests stop the religious confrontations , stop islam calling the shots and we`l be on the right track
The government is bothered by Israel because they have invested money, time, and personnel in bombing, planning a cash agreement in securing infrastructure work, advisory services. Plus if they pull out now, it opens up conversations on war crime or excessive use of force. The British government needs a good shake up. Labour are crooks, tories are crooks, Conservative are just tories pretending not to be tory crooks. Basically, they are all crooks and have a good thing going. None of them will put forward a sensible candidate in the general election that will serve a democratic society.
We should be like France, complain, protest, take days off work, and disrupt the money laundering system in place. I didn't vote for my taxes to pay for invading another country or causing chaos around the world.
Isn't the story underneath this story that Labour MPs were being threatened and Starmer shut himself in a room with Hoyle to pressure him to make this decision for the "safety" of Labour MPs because of the mob outside?
lol really? This is supposed to be a democracy
@@fc4660 Yes, this from the Guardian currently on their front page:
"Hours away from the biggest rebellion of his leadership, Starmer decided to intervene personally and visited Hoyle in his office behind the House of Commons chamber. [...]
the Labour leader warned Hoyle that Labour MPs’ security was at risk. Many had been deluged by criticisms, threats and abuse since abstaining on a similar SNP motion in November. With hundreds of protesters congregating outside parliament, they worried worse might be to come."
So basically the far-left and Muslims demanding a ceasefire posed such a threat to these MPs, Starmer convinces Hoyle to destroy his job + the entire process. Starmer had many opportunities prior to this to propose a Labour ceasefire, but chooses the pull the trigger on SNP's opposition day.
pity they didn't spend as much energy on something that counts like illegal immigration or the stupid amount of vat we pay
They should be arguing passionately about the state of the country they are supposed to be governing, the public aren’t interested in fixing the problems in the Middle East they want to improve their home.
Speak for yourself. The public who are aware of the UK’S involvement with the middle East do care
@matthewash7988 and they should be a minority. Britiajn faces roo many internal problems to care about some random war that's already been won
That’s a very broad statement which is certainly untrue. But it does underline the divide in British politics right now.
Exactly right, we're in England, but they're not interested in us ....
The country is exactly how they want it.
Listening to a bunch of supposed adults shouting over each other just reflects why this country has become a bunch of self entitled individuals.
This is how they've always behaved so there's nothing new in this behaviour !
Bring back Guy Falkes
It’s Fawkes
And it was Ian.
What a terroristic statement.
No thanks. He and his ilk were traitors to the crown and in the pocket of the Pope.
He's in bits, having died in 1606.
Tories shouting ‘bring back Bercow.’ AKA the guy who defected to Labour.
And the SH*TSHOW goes ON & ON & ON & ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just stating the glaringly obvious!!!!!!!!
unbiased my arse
I don't like the rules so I thought I would change them so much for democracy
Wish when he shouts order someone replies mines a pint and a cheese sarnie.
People queuing at food banks, can’t afford heating and electricity, ppe friends and donors given billions, NHS waiting lists a disgrace people dying, can’t get an ambulance, no NHS dentists people having to pull their own teeth with pliers, 14 years of neglect and incompetence, and the tories behave like that about another countries people, whilst they stand by and let the British people rot! drawing their massive wages and self serving perks? OBSCENE!!
Yes he's gotta go .... But what is really worrying is Starmer's terrible handling of this.....he was facing a massive rebellion in his own party ....he's gotta realise this is not a dictatorship ...or is this what we have to look forward to.....
These clowns are running the country.
Hes as much use as a choclate teapot 😅
The whole house is
First Bercow and now Hoyle.
It's not democratic and it stinks.
THESE ARE THE REAL HUMAN ANIMALS
Oh come on lad, #Chorley may not be the richest or most fashionable town int Lancashire but they aren’t animals. They’re Bolton fans..
So what there’s gonna be a ceasefire now because the uk government said so 😂
Netanyahu laughs uncontrollably
Oh yes of course!!
Nobody wants a ceasefire.
Yet with the illegals. Both sides silent. Vote Reform.
Stamer must resign for bullying this idiotic speaker
Billions off out tax payer pounds, pay for this embarrassment
Shame on Sir Lindsay Hoyle, shame on our MPs, shame on Prince William getting involved in matters that are nothing to do with the British people. What a waste of time and our money on far-left virtue signalling. British issues should be being discussed and solved not sticking our nose in other countries business with no effect on them whatsoever 👎🏼
Maybe it’s time for a written constitution
Its funny that he picks on one part being outdated, the whole British system is outdated!
What a great comedy show.
What a load of nonsense, complete waste of time, far too much pomp and ceremony, meaningless talk and empty words!
The UK needs a complete political reform, bring it into the 21st century.
Less heckling, jeering and silly fancy dress costumes, more efficient work flow that gets things that matter done!
Such as our own issues, housing crisis, homelessness, cost of living, inflation, security of our borders etc etc
Hoyle and Bercow .....Worst speakers the house has seen
he's taken the devil's money...TRAITOR
Totally Out of Order - his best mate Keir must be having a party. How disgraceful
Local council bureaucrat not fit for the job.
This would confuse Aliens who ask to be taken to our leader!
What exactly did he do wrong? I don't understand.
Comments deleted again what a surprise !
Anyone know what the hell is going on?
SNP put forward a motion calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza. Hoyle has broken tradition on allowing amendments by allowing one from the opposition party, Labour.
Tories, and possibly others, are now asking why? The rumour is that Starmer has promised Hoyle that he can remain as Speaker if Labour win the GE.
There have been reports that Starmer and Sue Gray were seen in repeated and long conversations with Hoyle.
The Speaker is supposed to be neutral and after the blatant partisanship of the last Speaker, Bercow, this doesn't look good.
More wasting British people's tax on far-left virtue signalling.
Labour and the Speaker have trounced the rules in order to accommodate the wishes, feelings and emotions of the minority muslim vote.
@@S-Northhumanity has left the building. Please seek an anti islamophobic group.
Parliament swearing felty to Israel. Nothing new here.
Lets get rid of this nonsense
If only Chris Eubank was there to sort out parliamentary procedure!
Clowns
What on earth is so wrong? He is quite right ! Parliment is for all, wether they be Lab Cons etc. This amendment should be changed to include all. Lindsey is a good man, a marvellous Speaker the Cobs have been put in their place. They dont own the House!
Now THAT'S what I call parliamentary drama.
Read the standing orders, Mr Hoyle! Read them and understand them!
I have often commented that he is the worst ever Speaker. Incoherent and tetchy … but this walks all over the SNP, he should resign but he has no shame!
Never rated Mr H.even prior to him getting the Speakers gig.
Perhaps he was trying for best of three!
Selective outrage on display, like Labour has never tried bending rules before.
lol hoyle let em get away with this for ages. made his bed now he can sleep in it
Never let a serious crisis go to waste...
He’s even laughing at himself!! Effing hell…… god help us.
We’re do all the tunnels lead to ?????
He should resign in shame.
The people have had enough, time for a new Speaker!
Typical labour all side's now.
The Islamic state of Britain 😭😭😭😭😭
Labour must be seething, Hoyle ruined their amendment ambush.
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He's not had a bad run though. His entire term as speaker and he hasn't made anyone answer a single question.
I hear Hoyle now if he were alive in June 1940: "We will surrender on the beaches, we will surrender in the cities, we will surrender in the streets, we will surrender to those who want to kill us." What a coward and a disgrace.
Resign !
The Speaker must go
The bring back bercow shout 😂
This is like that mayor in the U.S. condemning Israel. No one cares about merely words of criticism. Idf continues to wipe the floor in Gaza with ease while opposition thinks protests and speeches will change a single thing😂😂😂
It actually makes a huge difference since the topic is still being discussed intensely around the world.
@@user-tm1rf6lv2f no ceasefire so it’s actually done nothing at all. But keep patting yourself on the back for having the topic “still being discussed.” Hahahaha
@@user-tm1rf6lv2f How so? How is this going to have ANY effect except virtue signalling. How would GB react if a similar attack was done on their soil?
@@hadror13 We get told "Don't look back in anger" by the state/media
Russia not our enemy it's our own government
I don't think anybody outside of England undestands wtf this videos title, description, or content means. Can somebody explain this like i'm not british?
Someone explain what this means as I have no idea what just happened
Precedent (like common law precedent) is old fashined says Hoyle, so it on the basis of being old fashioned I'm breaking parliamentary law.
The UK is falling apart and these clowns are worried about Gaza? 😂
Hoyle must go. He is not honest.
Its not shaneful,its labour
Israel has this Country in its back pocket
Why are they afraid of Netanyahu and his Henchmen!
The speaker lost control big time!
Outdated. The irony
Disgusting...Resign
Precedent?
No wonder we have Voter apathy and expect a low turnout next election.
What a rubbish parliament with a crooked speaker.
The order part always gets me😂
Back t’t chip Hoyle wit mushy peas then! Other countries will be loooookin on with total amazement. Steer Calmlys tentacles behind this one methinks allegedly.
Of course they want bercow back hes got israeli citizenship and that wouldn't be a conflict of interest at all in this matter would it
Any MP who doesn’t 100% back Israel’s right to defend itself is ignorant to the point it is dangerous that they are allowed anywhere near parliament. What else are they thinking that is so stupid? Do they think South Korea shouldn’t be allowed to protect itself against North Korea for example?
Do some research mate.
Phil8528 only a thicko would come up with that comparison.
@@michaelmcginley7930 using the term thicko is laughable, when seemingly being used to question someone’s intelligence.
Spot on, well said.
On what? We know that Israel was attacked. What else do we need to know mate!@@chainzsawmaster
Hoyle needs to go
outdated?????? this is the UK for crying out loud . its called TRADITION
Yes exactly uk is outdated
@@syohankno
@@syohank The migrants don’t seem to think so.
@@earthsmoke9450 migrants obviously coming from broken countries like Ukraine, Eastern Europe, Middle East, Africa or India. Sure uk is better than those countries. Look at stats of British millionaires leaving the country truth is hard to swallow
@@tombblades yes
Someone please explain
Hoyle the chocolate fireguard.
Bring back Guy Fawkes........
He was a traitor
@@ThemanyfacesofegoAnd the government isn't? 😂
Nice man but influenced by Starmer. Dead man walking.
Horrible basket
War criminals
What does chosing mean then ? Lol.
He found his own actions funny
Resign