Hello Tim ! just wanted to tell you, you are the one that made me choose to buy the Kahakka 25, mainly thanks to your great video about it. It's simple and effective. Thank you very much ur doing a really great job !
My father in Finland used to carry all his essentials in a leather satchel ( I hope that is the right word). So I bought this 15 liter Kahakka. I think he would love it for what he used to carry unless he would have got corrupted by the times that we live in today. I need to first spend some time exploring it before I commit it to my bush duties. I am loving this pack. I wanted a small one like this but it is actually quite massive. I think I could get 40 liter use out of this if I wanted. So it's back to the Karjalan metsän temppuja Kanadan puolella.
I feel the same way about the Kahakka 25. It's a bit too big for me, but when I need it, it is the perfect option. These Kahakka backpacks are perfect when you find what they are hungry for
I wanted to come back after ordering a Kahakka 15 just now. This has to be one of the most underrated and best hidden secrets when it comes to gear channels. Keep up the great work Tim! I'm eagerly awaiting my backpack now as well as your attachment video. One note. It would be great if you review backpacks and other sorts of luggage/bags in the future if you could show the capacity with some everyday items. I guess a lot of people are wondering if their laptops for example will fit.
Thank you for the love! And as for packing stuff in the backpacks and bags, I did try that a few times but it gets very crazy very fast. Too many requests pile up and I feel bad picking and choosing. Some folks might feel that there are basics, but a basic to a Turk might not be a basic to Swede. As for laptops, they come in so many sizes and dimensions it would be so much testing and measuring work. And I am not a technology guy at all myself, so I don't want to take any liability for anyone's choices of how to carry cameras or laptops or anything of that sort.
I think I found my retirement gear up in Finland, I can't imagine ever looking anywhere else than Varusteleka and Savotta. And on the plus side, my kids will never have to buy gear either :)
Hiking use to hurt a bit but then I found Savotta, now on random rucks now only my wallet hurts. If some one was to come to me and say I'm going to by an Osprey I would immediately send them to savotta almost the same cost and it's "made to endure" and by god they do.
For my back the Jääkäri medium is the perfect match. I have also got a bigger pack from different manufactorer but prefer the Jääkäri over that one. Fits my big back better and is more comfortable :) I also feel my wallet pain too 😅
Definitely like both Osprey and Savotta for different reasons. If I'm doing a multi day hike or a through hike, definitely taking one of the higher end Ospreys, like the Aether AG. It has a fantastic "suspension" that makes heavy loads feel like nothing. I've also used their lifetime warranty without issue, truly can't beat their warranty and customer service. Savotta is great for an everyday bag, or one that you can literally drag through the mud and still depend on. My go bag, and day/weekend hiking bags have now become Savottas. I like both, but if we're being honest we all probably have an obsession with good bags 😅
Hello Tim, just wanted to say that I bought the Kahakka 25 mainly thanks to your review, it was good in explanations and show-its. For maybe another vidéo, it can be cool if you give some example of utilisations (like what this pocket can ideally carry and why ?) your thoughts might be very intéressant. I just discovered your channel like a week ago and it's very cool ! Thanks, Louis
I am a big fan of the long form myself, haha I just never know how long these videos will end up in the end. But magically I somehow fall naturally to almost exactly the 30 minute mark
Thanks Jess :) I have many great experiences with Fiskars, it took a long time but I outfitted the hospice with an entire selection of orange and black goodness. My problem though, I can't stop maintaining my gear. I love the bi-yearly linseed oiling, my homemade beeswax rub on leather... its my quiet place
@Tim_Keys *A well-designed and well-maintained hickory handle on any style of tool is a joy to use.* My grandfather, my father's father, worked on the construction of the *Conowingo Dam that spans the Susquehanna River.* He was injured on the job, fired as a consequence of his leg injury, and subsequently ended up with a *very unique, 10-pound, straight-peen sledgehammer.* The hammer's uniqueness, aside from its straight peen, which was relatively rare for a sledgehammer of that weight, was its very small, slightly tapered, oval eye. The oval eye *measured approximately 1.25 inches long by 1" wide,* with the long axis of the eye in line with the length of the head. *The straight-grained, heartwood, oval hickory handle* was incredibly flexible, and at its thinnest, where the dimensions of the handle were the smallest, it measured *NO MORE than 7/8"×3/4".* Until the handle finally broke in its 8th decade of use, it was the most enjoyable sledgehammer that I have ever swung. My father called it a *Buggy Whip* handle, and if you stood perpendicular to someone using it to break up something like concrete, for example, you could see the handle bend like an archery bow when the head impacted whatever it was that you were trying to break. We oiled that handle religiously at least once a year. I should mention that the grip end of the handle didn't measure much more than the size of the eye and was approximately a maximum of no more than 15% larger than the eye. In addition, the handle was *TRIANGULAR* in shape, being *more isoscoles in shape than equilateral.* It was the only 8 pound plus in weight sledgehammer that I have ever used that *NEVER* gave me a blister.
I feel like if you’re not needing to pack a tent or sleep system, the 15 is better than the 25. The 25 is still almost too small for an overnighter unless you’re sleeping on the ground. I think the 15 is just a better all around daypack for non military use.
Thx for entertaining & informative videos Tim! One question, what's that at 06:32, is it ground sheet, like MPP Foam Mat or... soft armor? I think you were wondering on some previous video if soft armor would fit the back pocket. I'm guessing Sioen 6x10'' (150x250cm) NIJ IIIa+17J side plate would easily go there when inserted vertically, though dunno if it's useless due to its small size (well, smaller than normal 10x12 back plate). But at least it weighs only 143g. Unfortunately selling abroad is forbidden.
Thanks for the love my friend, and that is the MPP Foam Mat. I pulled off the tag to make a patch out of it. And as for armor you might be talking about the PC18 from Varusteleka I am putting together. When it is all put together I will show that too
Tim, thanks for the video. I agree 100% on keeping your children's images off of social media. Anyway, my question was regarding the axe loop. Did I hear correctly that you were wearing the Casstrom Axe Loop in Cognac Brown, #11500? If so, then I might just have to consider adding something else to my *"Things I'd Like to Purchase List."* I too own a Jääkäripuukko 110 with the Boltaron thermoplastic sheath and the Blade-Tech plastic hardware kit that I purchased for the Boltaron sheath is just too clunky for my engineer's simplistic brain. In addition to the fact that the hardware is a poor fit onto the sheath. I also have a Skrama 240 but I'm not sure that I will want to carry its weight on my belt. Although, the Skrama 240 is much shorter and handier than a full sized machete.
I believe that's the color, but yes that is the model. Complete game changer once I got it. I never liked being hooked to carrying the Skrama like a sword but with this system I can carry it and keep it handy for short periods. It still wants me to buy some suspenders to keep it up but short term work is alright.
@Tim_Keys Carrying a heavy, long-bladed knife like the Skrama 240 on one's waist for any extended period of time only makes sense to this old man if I was suspending the Skrama 240, or an even longer bladed and heavier machete, from a well-padded waist belt, similar to a war belt in height, that was equipped with a quick-detachable shoulder strap harness. Then, both of my hips, as well as both of my shoulders, would bear the far more well-distributed weight. Then, the only necessity would be finding something of near equal to equal weight to carry on the opposite side of the war belt from the Skrama/machete. The same principles would apply equally to anything from a mini-hatchet all the way up to a mid-sized hatchet with a 1.5lb. to 1.75lb. head and a 16"-20 " long handle. uarmprotection.com/product/armored-war-belt-regular-long/
When I head to the woods, I carry, at minimum, a Puukko 110, Silky Big Boy 2000, and an Agawa Canyon bucksaw with spare green wood blade. I don't carry an axe because I find saws safer to use personally.
Yes Polish, the Panzer Spade. But I'm not sure of the maker anymore, because I accidentally broke the original handle off in an ax throwing competition. Yes, I know, but also it was fun.
You can yes, if you either swap out the side compression strap SR buckles on the Jääkäri M to G-hooks, or add female SR-buckles to the side compression straps of the Kahakka and then attach the male SR buckles of the Jääkäri M side compression straps to those.
Yes! I’ve done it by adding Savotta’s 2M WB SR PALS-MOUNT, 25 MM, FEMALE buckles on the Kahakka and using the compression straps on the Jääkäri M to connect it.
Great demo of what can fit in the 15l for people to see o7 ! I'm DEFINTELY going to have to get that axe/skrama hanger for work and if it can also hold my weeding hoe too I'll be VERY happy - Cheers for showing that mate! Stay safe out there
Oh there was even room for more, I picked up a shirt and shoes I left at the hospice on my way home :) I absolutely recommend the axe hanger, it changed everything for me. And I'm home and safe and my job is done. I just made 100 cookies and my only job tomorrow is delivering them to everyone still working
Volunteer emergency response, so pretty much anything I get called out to. When the kids are a little bit older I will join their deployment team for natural disasters and war relief.
Thanx for your reply! The brightness disappears for half a second if I turn my phone to get into landscape mode. Maybe it is some app failure on my side. Greetings! ❤
If anyone knows Savotta's reasoning for not putting additional rows of PALS webbing on the front of either of the new packs as well as the Hatka, I'd love to hear it. I'm the kind of person who loves blowing packs up with attachments and Savotta sort put the damper on that idea.
Very simply, they were not designed with that in mind. Yes, nature finds a way and people will use the bag as they see fit. But the design is fit for the needs of the Finnish Defense Forces, without adding weight and additional end cost per unit.
@rusty9045 the funny part about that is that the Hatka with its 4 rows actually has twice as many rows as the Kahakka lol. Both packs coulda have benefited greatly with the addition of just 1 more row in the middle.
@@rusty9045 Worth remembering these are ultimately daypacks/combat packs, not really meant for hauling huge amounts of stuff. For larger capacity, Jääkäri M are both more expandable (more PALS, floating lid) as well as designed for better comfort (e.g. proper hip belt and cushion, backside with air channel). Plus there's some other larger packs coming from Savotta, IIRC later this year.
Hello!We are Wurkkos, We really appreciate your influence and content quality on social media. Our team would like to discuss a collaboration opportunity with you to create meaningful and compelling content together. Would it be convenient for us to communicate further? Looking forward to your reply, thank you! 🤝
I super appreciate it but I am not interested at this time. I am not trying to get too serious here, I'm just having fun with my favorite things. If this becomes a job it won't be fun anymore. I wish you all the best :)
@@Tim_Keys Hey bro, you know, I watched your video before I asked this question. I think your video content is very interesting. Our cooperation is not just work. I think our cooperation is more like the way friends get along with each other. You can do what you like. You just need to introduce our products like you did in your previous videos when you shoot this kind of video next time. Maybe our products are really good?Hahahaha🤪
Well I would hope you watched the video before reaching out about it. And I am going to say this one more time, bro, I am not interested. I am trying to be polite, but now I am annoyed.
We got a year of rain in one night. The whole town is a mess.
Hello Tim ! just wanted to tell you, you are the one that made me choose to buy the Kahakka 25, mainly thanks to your great video about it. It's simple and effective. Thank you very much ur doing a really great job !
Louis you are one of my favorite people today, thank you man
My father in Finland used to carry all his essentials in a leather satchel ( I hope that is the right word). So I bought this 15 liter Kahakka. I think he would love it for what he used to carry unless he would have got corrupted by the times that we live in today. I need to first spend some time exploring it before I commit it to my bush duties. I am loving this pack. I wanted a small one like this but it is actually quite massive. I think I could get 40 liter use out of this if I wanted. So it's back to the Karjalan metsän temppuja Kanadan puolella.
I feel the same way about the Kahakka 25. It's a bit too big for me, but when I need it, it is the perfect option. These Kahakka backpacks are perfect when you find what they are hungry for
I wanted to come back after ordering a Kahakka 15 just now. This has to be one of the most underrated and best hidden secrets when it comes to gear channels. Keep up the great work Tim! I'm eagerly awaiting my backpack now as well as your attachment video. One note. It would be great if you review backpacks and other sorts of luggage/bags in the future if you could show the capacity with some everyday items. I guess a lot of people are wondering if their laptops for example will fit.
Thank you for the love! And as for packing stuff in the backpacks and bags, I did try that a few times but it gets very crazy very fast. Too many requests pile up and I feel bad picking and choosing. Some folks might feel that there are basics, but a basic to a Turk might not be a basic to Swede.
As for laptops, they come in so many sizes and dimensions it would be so much testing and measuring work. And I am not a technology guy at all myself, so I don't want to take any liability for anyone's choices of how to carry cameras or laptops or anything of that sort.
Nice kit! I’m a fan of Varusteleka as well and have some of those pieces. Your Savotta collection is stellar!
I think I found my retirement gear up in Finland, I can't imagine ever looking anywhere else than Varusteleka and Savotta. And on the plus side, my kids will never have to buy gear either :)
Hiking use to hurt a bit but then I found Savotta, now on random rucks now only my wallet hurts. If some one was to come to me and say I'm going to by an Osprey I would immediately send them to savotta almost the same cost and it's "made to endure" and by god they do.
For my back the Jääkäri medium is the perfect match. I have also got a bigger pack from different manufactorer but prefer the Jääkäri over that one. Fits my big back better and is more comfortable :) I also feel my wallet pain too 😅
Definitely like both Osprey and Savotta for different reasons. If I'm doing a multi day hike or a through hike, definitely taking one of the higher end Ospreys, like the Aether AG. It has a fantastic "suspension" that makes heavy loads feel like nothing. I've also used their lifetime warranty without issue, truly can't beat their warranty and customer service.
Savotta is great for an everyday bag, or one that you can literally drag through the mud and still depend on. My go bag, and day/weekend hiking bags have now become Savottas.
I like both, but if we're being honest we all probably have an obsession with good bags 😅
Hello Tim, just wanted to say that I bought the Kahakka 25 mainly thanks to your review, it was good in explanations and show-its. For maybe another vidéo, it can be cool if you give some example of utilisations (like what this pocket can ideally carry and why ?) your thoughts might be very intéressant. I just discovered your channel like a week ago and it's very cool ! Thanks, Louis
Merci Louis for the kindness and for your trust, I will make sure to do this for you
Haha thank you very much ! Greetings from the very deep France man ! @@Tim_Keys
No need to apologize for the 25l video. I enjoy long form reviews and discussion.
Ooops wrong video thought this was the 15l overview haha. But it still stands.
I am a big fan of the long form myself, haha I just never know how long these videos will end up in the end. But magically I somehow fall naturally to almost exactly the 30 minute mark
Nice load out, Tim! Good luck on the job. Ever tried Fiskars axes? The handles are great. Hold up really well in the cold.
Thanks Jess :)
I have many great experiences with Fiskars, it took a long time but I outfitted the hospice with an entire selection of orange and black goodness. My problem though, I can't stop maintaining my gear. I love the bi-yearly linseed oiling, my homemade beeswax rub on leather... its my quiet place
@Tim_Keys
*A well-designed and well-maintained hickory handle on any style of tool is a joy to use.*
My grandfather, my father's father, worked on the construction of the *Conowingo Dam that spans the Susquehanna River.* He was injured on the job, fired as a consequence of his leg injury, and subsequently ended up with a *very unique, 10-pound, straight-peen sledgehammer.* The hammer's uniqueness, aside from its straight peen, which was relatively rare for a sledgehammer of that weight, was its very small, slightly tapered, oval eye.
The oval eye *measured approximately 1.25 inches long by 1" wide,* with the long axis of the eye in line with the length of the head. *The straight-grained, heartwood, oval hickory handle* was incredibly flexible, and at its thinnest, where the dimensions of the handle were the smallest, it measured *NO MORE than 7/8"×3/4".*
Until the handle finally broke in its 8th decade of use, it was the most enjoyable sledgehammer that I have ever swung. My father called it a *Buggy Whip* handle, and if you stood perpendicular to someone using it to break up something like concrete, for example, you could see the handle bend like an archery bow when the head impacted whatever it was that you were trying to break. We oiled that handle religiously at least once a year.
I should mention that the grip end of the handle didn't measure much more than the size of the eye and was approximately a maximum of no more than 15% larger than the eye. In addition, the handle was *TRIANGULAR* in shape, being *more isoscoles in shape than equilateral.* It was the only 8 pound plus in weight sledgehammer that I have ever used that *NEVER* gave me a blister.
I feel like if you’re not needing to pack a tent or sleep system, the 15 is better than the 25. The 25 is still almost too small for an overnighter unless you’re sleeping on the ground. I think the 15 is just a better all around daypack for non military use.
It really is situational, but I find myself grabbing the 15 more often
Thx for entertaining & informative videos Tim! One question, what's that at 06:32, is it ground sheet, like MPP Foam Mat or... soft armor? I think you were wondering on some previous video if soft armor would fit the back pocket. I'm guessing Sioen 6x10'' (150x250cm) NIJ IIIa+17J side plate would easily go there when inserted vertically, though dunno if it's useless due to its small size (well, smaller than normal 10x12 back plate). But at least it weighs only 143g. Unfortunately selling abroad is forbidden.
Thanks for the love my friend, and that is the MPP Foam Mat. I pulled off the tag to make a patch out of it. And as for armor you might be talking about the PC18 from Varusteleka I am putting together. When it is all put together I will show that too
Tim, thanks for the video. I agree 100% on keeping your children's images off of social media. Anyway, my question was regarding the axe loop. Did I hear correctly that you were wearing the Casstrom Axe Loop in Cognac Brown, #11500? If so, then I might just have to consider adding something else to my *"Things I'd Like to Purchase List."*
I too own a Jääkäripuukko 110 with the Boltaron thermoplastic sheath and the Blade-Tech plastic hardware kit that I purchased for the Boltaron sheath is just too clunky for my engineer's simplistic brain. In addition to the fact that the hardware is a poor fit onto the sheath. I also have a Skrama 240 but I'm not sure that I will want to carry its weight on my belt. Although, the Skrama 240 is much shorter and handier than a full sized machete.
I believe that's the color, but yes that is the model. Complete game changer once I got it. I never liked being hooked to carrying the Skrama like a sword but with this system I can carry it and keep it handy for short periods. It still wants me to buy some suspenders to keep it up but short term work is alright.
@Tim_Keys
Carrying a heavy, long-bladed knife like the Skrama 240 on one's waist for any extended period of time only makes sense to this old man if I was suspending the Skrama 240, or an even longer bladed and heavier machete, from a well-padded waist belt, similar to a war belt in height, that was equipped with a quick-detachable shoulder strap harness. Then, both of my hips, as well as both of my shoulders, would bear the far more well-distributed weight. Then, the only necessity would be finding something of near equal to equal weight to carry on the opposite side of the war belt from the Skrama/machete. The same principles would apply equally to anything from a mini-hatchet all the way up to a mid-sized hatchet with a 1.5lb. to 1.75lb. head and a 16"-20 " long handle.
uarmprotection.com/product/armored-war-belt-regular-long/
I will add this to the list of webbing builds
Great video, Tim!
When I head to the woods, I carry, at minimum, a Puukko 110, Silky Big Boy 2000, and an Agawa Canyon bucksaw with spare green wood blade. I don't carry an axe because I find saws safer to use personally.
Thanks man :)
Was that a polish shovel made by Mazur at - 2:05 ?
Yes Polish, the Panzer Spade. But I'm not sure of the maker anymore, because I accidentally broke the original handle off in an ax throwing competition. Yes, I know, but also it was fun.
Can you put the Kahakka 15 L on the Jäkari M Like the Hatka 12l? Thanks
Endurance Room recently published a video showing all kinds of combinations... my guess would be 'yes'!
Can technically do that with any pack/pouch with 4 or more attachment points and some spare field repair quasm buckles
You can yes, if you either swap out the side compression strap SR buckles on the Jääkäri M to G-hooks, or add female SR-buckles to the side compression straps of the Kahakka and then attach the male SR buckles of the Jääkäri M side compression straps to those.
Yes! I’ve done it by adding Savotta’s 2M WB SR PALS-MOUNT, 25 MM, FEMALE buckles on the Kahakka and using the compression straps on the Jääkäri M to connect it.
Great demo of what can fit in the 15l for people to see o7 !
I'm DEFINTELY going to have to get that axe/skrama hanger for work and if it can also hold my weeding hoe too I'll be VERY happy - Cheers for showing that mate! Stay safe out there
Oh there was even room for more, I picked up a shirt and shoes I left at the hospice on my way home :)
I absolutely recommend the axe hanger, it changed everything for me. And I'm home and safe and my job is done. I just made 100 cookies and my only job tomorrow is delivering them to everyone still working
Speaking of the Savotta MPP not fitting in the 15L. How well does it fit in the 25L? Is it the same size as the stock gray pad?
In the Kahakka 25L, the grey pad is just a tiny bit longer, but the same width as the Savotta Pad/Mat thing. You are good to go with either one there.
@@Tim_Keys Great to hear! Thank you.
I'd thought you said the German army mat wouldn't fit the 15L version. It does?
That is the German ground sheet, the sleeping mat does not fit in the 15L
What kind of job do you do with all that gear ;)
Volunteer emergency response, so pretty much anything I get called out to. When the kids are a little bit older I will join their deployment team for natural disasters and war relief.
Great Videos. The only thing I am irritated by is this weird brightness filter. Can you remove it? Thanx, greetings!!❤
I'm sorry man, that's the early morning sun. I don't even know how to do filters
Thanx for your reply! The brightness disappears for half a second if I turn my phone to get into landscape mode. Maybe it is some app failure on my side. Greetings! ❤
I think that it is youtubes hdr mode messing with our phones, i have noticed it on videos from other youtubers aswell
I wish they put a row of molle in the middle so i can put smaller pouches on it instead of tall ones
Very soon I will have a video up on how to do that
If anyone knows Savotta's reasoning for not putting additional rows of PALS webbing on the front of either of the new packs as well as the Hatka, I'd love to hear it. I'm the kind of person who loves blowing packs up with attachments and Savotta sort put the damper on that idea.
Very simply, they were not designed with that in mind. Yes, nature finds a way and people will use the bag as they see fit. But the design is fit for the needs of the Finnish Defense Forces, without adding weight and additional end cost per unit.
@rusty9045 the funny part about that is that the Hatka with its 4 rows actually has twice as many rows as the Kahakka lol. Both packs coulda have benefited greatly with the addition of just 1 more row in the middle.
@@rusty9045 Worth remembering these are ultimately daypacks/combat packs, not really meant for hauling huge amounts of stuff. For larger capacity, Jääkäri M are both more expandable (more PALS, floating lid) as well as designed for better comfort (e.g. proper hip belt and cushion, backside with air channel). Plus there's some other larger packs coming from Savotta, IIRC later this year.
Cool! :)
See ya, Rich
The missus hates Savotta. If you know what I mean ;)
Hello!We are Wurkkos, We really appreciate your influence and content quality on social media. Our team would like to discuss a collaboration opportunity with you to create meaningful and compelling content together. Would it be convenient for us to communicate further? Looking forward to your reply, thank you! 🤝
I super appreciate it but I am not interested at this time. I am not trying to get too serious here, I'm just having fun with my favorite things. If this becomes a job it won't be fun anymore. I wish you all the best :)
@@Tim_Keys Hey bro, you know, I watched your video before I asked this question. I think your video content is very interesting. Our cooperation is not just work. I think our cooperation is more like the way friends get along with each other.
You can do what you like. You just need to introduce our products like you did in your previous videos when you shoot this kind of video next time. Maybe our products are really good?Hahahaha🤪
@@Tim_Keys Maybe we can try to have a deeper discussion?
Well I would hope you watched the video before reaching out about it. And I am going to say this one more time, bro, I am not interested. I am trying to be polite, but now I am annoyed.
@@Tim_Keys Well,Sorry,I understand you ,I wish you have a nice day！