If you dont mind to practice and play just random out of tune notes like the guy in the video it will sound awful. But there is beautiful microtonal music which is btw very hard to intonate properly.
Microtonal music is dope, though. These two violin bois are a bit too afraid of contemporary stuff. Probably because of the chord extensions that can be spooky to a classical musician.
@@math9172 I was born in France and spoke french my whole life, but unfortunately I can't put accents on an "American" computer keyboard, so yeah :) also what I meant was that it's a very ling ling thing idk sorry for being S A C R I L E G I O U S lol just trying to be part of the comment section ;)
@@nathanpentury5201 I though natural harmonics were the same on both (just picked/plucked vs bowed)? Obviously pinch and artificial harmonics on guitar don't translate well onto violin.
5:52 “I don’t even know what this is called”- My conductors has legitimately asked us to use this technique FOR A CONCERT. The composition was borderline sacrilegious.
1:16 Scordatura 1:23 Bartok Pizz 1:29 Sul ponticello 1:35 Col legno 1:44 Natural harmonic glissando 1:53 Artificial harmonic glissando 2:05 Pizz glissando 2:16 Tapping 2:31 Microtones 2:45 ""Silent Fingering"" 3:01 Slapping/Striking Strings 3:14 Play on the bridge 3:29 Scatch tone 3:40 Circular bowing 3:50 Subharmonic 4:16 Play behind the bridge 4:28 Brush over the bridge 4:57 Play on the tailpiece
@@hemharutyunyan Hmm... I'm not sure since I'm not a string player, but I think most of these would be written explicitly in words (e.g. 'play on the tailpiece', and then the notes may have a different notehead). Some will have normal notation (e.g. pizz glissando, they will just indicate pizz and probably have a gliss line just like a normal note). For more information, you can probably just google, and if you cannot find them on google, there probably isn't an agreed way to notate it because the technique is not commonly used. You can then invent your own notation, as long as it's clear for the performer (if it's too complex, you can also consider to explain it in the programme note)
@@hemharutyunyan Look up the notation utilised by Penderecki for these techniques, many of which he incorporated into his music. A lot of these he would notate by using headless stems with different shapes around half way through the length of the stem.
AnimeBoi1348 Most extended techniques can be used very effectively if you understand their textual context and importance. Just because it sounds weird doesn’t mean it’s bad.
Speaking of ideas, I’ve been having composers block for a while... I’m either not satisfied with what I compose or I have trouble finishing pieces. Any advice from composers out there?
It’s funny since I’m a cellist, Luciano Berio uses that in his _Sequenza XIV_ for cello, and you have to do tapping and silent fingering at the beginning at the same time. It’s kinda soothing actually :)
As someone who plays a lot of new music I've done just about every single one of these in performance. Some of them can actually be very effective when done right! Side note...love that violinist instinct to do something with your left hand even when you're bowing behind the bridge and it'll make no difference whatsoever to the pitch lol
Wait a second, we did the crunchy sound by pushing the bow under the instrument thing and that fact that it's an actual thing gets me every time. 20th century composition truly is a wonder
I'm starting a go fund me for your violins for every dollar donation Eddy and Brett will stop abusing their violins anything helps link in the description
"I dont know what this is called" is sometimes called "twist bow" and works on the (muted) strings as well. Although you then might need to loosen the hair (of the bow) a bit to get it to work properly. Thanks for an awesome channel!
I read on Wikipedia and here is what it’s called. It’s called _chewing._ *An effect sometimes used for humorous effect by string players, “chewing” is performed by loosening the bow hair and placing the bow, bow hair side up, against the back of the instrument. The bow is then rotated causing the bow stick to pop and crunch as it goes over the coarse bow hairs. This effect, which sounds remarkably like a person chewing something crunchy, is fairly quiet and could benefit from amplification.*
Subharmonics is legit hard though, which is why (to my ear at least) Brett only actually produces the subharmonic combination tone once very briefly in that demo. Offhand, the only places I'm used to hearing harmonics done reliably: - Some pipe organs, with two smaller pipes working together to simulate a low note that would usually require a much bigger pipe - Some oktavists (very deep-voiced singers in a particular mostly-Russian choral tradition)
Apparently the actual name many composers and musicians give it is called “chewing” or a “crunch sound” as it sounds similar to someone chewing a crunchy food item.
*people who play things like this all the time raging in the background and explaining why everyone else isnt smart enough to understand the genius even though they're making some of these up*
@@math9172 You say that but I've seen pieces with various materials stuck in the strings, using a mallet to hit the strings and rubbingrings with various things. Then there's the wooden block on the keys, face on the keys, tapping the underside of the keyboard, depressing keys without playing them to get sympathetic vibrations, flutter pedalling, forearm tone clusters, all kinds of other techniques as well
I find microtonal most interesting but is it contemporary? It has always been a part of the kemenche. The middle eastern instrument became the medieval rebec and maybe one could say that the violin is contemporary! To name and master the numeral microtones in every semitone and knowing all hijaz and maqam is a challenge worthy any Ling Ling.
Good point. I recently started listening to Middle Eastern music and I like it. I guess people often forget there is other music apart from European? This is actually very sad that a lot of people don't know about it. There's so much variety! I also like gamelan music and I am looking for something else non-European to listen to.
currently scrambling around the internet trying to explore some more extended techniques before my composition coursework deadline next week... i think i've learnt more from this than any other online blog/resource
artificial harmonic glissando
aka the “oui oui” glissando
oui oui francais baguette
Tu es bête, tu doit partir maintenant
@@inthelimelight2680 what
bubbletea ne chose :)
@@inthelimelight2680 i dont- what?
I’m not playing out of tune, I play m i c r o t o n e s
No, I’m not a bad violinist that pretends to be the fastest violinist in the world, it’s called *S U L P O N T I C E L L O*
There are music systems with microtones, check some indian pieces
I do not have bad intonation I am inventing a new technique called sul ponticello
If you dont mind to practice and play just random out of tune notes like the guy in the video it will sound awful. But there is beautiful microtonal music which is btw very hard to intonate properly.
Jazz*
imagine this being someone's first twoset video lmao
😂OMG
Here I am
purpleburple honestly this is all you need to watch to know exactly who and what twosetviolin are
Mine is when Brett tries singing opera 🤣🤣🤣
Mine was if you’re violin was a person
I didn`t know that everything that I did in the orquestra when I was bored had a name :)
Great names like "I don't even know what this is called"
"orquestra"?
pingpongpung That’s the Portuguese word for orchestra, so possibly autocorrect.
@@mateussouza3979 actually spanish
@Felipe Avendaño Toro havent seen the r
3:50 The beloved childhood tune of “Mary Had a Dying Lamb”
on the V I O L A
Mary had a dying viola
400th like
Hello bass clef
All of these can be summarized into “things I do that make my teacher mad when we’re supposed to be quiet”
True, but when used properly in compositions these techniques can be devastatingly effective!
Bernardita Riffo Olivos 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
PFT YES
+
You forgot “if you can play it slowly, you can play it quickly”.
Those poor violins..!
Sacroligios boi
Sacrilegious mumblerap by Ben Lee
If you can play it wrong, you can play it right.
@@seankong9795
Thanks!
6.5 minutes of the violin being violated lol
Microtonal music is dope, though. These two violin bois are a bit too afraid of contemporary stuff. Probably because of the chord extensions that can be spooky to a classical musician.
Viola-ated
Those "sub-harmomic". Oof
Viola-ted
SHIt you beat me to it
The circular bowing was actually interesting.
Artemis Fowl [2nd Channel]
It sounded like distorted game music
At first it sounded like an audio glitch but then I tried it in real life and it sounded like that!
I liked the pizz glissando too
5:07 was also interesting (when you turn up the volume)
6:01 Bow Screw glissando also sounded very cool
The opposite of ASMR...RMSA Ruining Music for Sacrilegious Art
William Dunn-Sarmiento underrated comment
Curing autism with music😂
👍
aka avant-garde music
Needs to be a thing
"Sounds familiar" 😂 all I have to say is OUI OUI !
mendelsohn violin concerto
Pokemon charades
Oui oui c’est trais Ling Ling
@@math9172 I was born in France and spoke french my whole life, but unfortunately I can't put accents on an "American" computer keyboard, so yeah :) also what I meant was that it's a very ling ling thing idk sorry for being S A C R I L E G I O U S lol just trying to be part of the comment section ;)
OUI OUI!
40 hours a day
Keeps the asian mom away
So accurate
Lol
XD
Perfection
How funny
This video is like a experimental asmr channel. I love it twosetasmr
Jeremiah Owusu I actually learned nearly all the techniques in orchestra playing 20th century stuff ha!!
3:15
3:30 literally the sound every door in the goddamn house makes when you want to get out of your room quietly and have a nice midnight snack
MayhemW lol so true!
"Contemporary Techniques"
a.k.a "How to Ruin Your Violin"
Or maybe "Just Play the Viola"
More likely to ruin your bow tbh
Lol
Damn. That's gotta be rough lol
5:50 it’s called “stepping on a cockroach”
Samantha Wee lol
lel
Cringes even harder
Haha!😂
thanks for playing im gonna go die now
You forgot to play the bow using the instrument. Disappointed.
lmaooooooooo
Ikr
LMAO
Orion 😂😂😂😂😂
@Shuncey Balba lol so is everyone. There are only 7 now.
What happens when a musical prodigy steps on a bee?
It becomes a bee flat!
Hahaha lol
What an INTErEsTing comment
I resent that remark.
Bella's Videos but then it turns into a b natural
Wheeze
getting mild anxiety for the health of your bows
Im watching this as a guitarist and im just like “wait a minute more than a couple of these are just guitar techniques on violin”
Which ones?
I'm a guitarist too
Pizzato and sliding
Silent fingering
Slap
Are guitar techniques
@@arbs-5164 Plus harmonics and tapping (though tapping on guitar is different)!
@@BlitzballMadness also harmonic guys is diferent
@@nathanpentury5201 I though natural harmonics were the same on both (just picked/plucked vs bowed)? Obviously pinch and artificial harmonics on guitar don't translate well onto violin.
*col legno breaks my heart*
just like how it almost breaks my bow
It should be marked "col stunt bow" XD
It was even used in Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique and Mahler's Second
'It's called subharmonics, mom.'
Leila Byerly this comment made my day😂😂😏😂😂
@@Jay-S04 I'm glad you enjoyed it 😊
Please do a tutorial on playing vibrato on a piano
I thought this said "do a tutorial playing vibrato on a piano" and it was way funnier.
@@gamernerdgirl83Actually I meant that
I think you only need to shake the piano, that’s all.
@@omie24 u cant
💀💀
5:52 “I don’t even know what this is called”- My conductors has legitimately asked us to use this technique FOR A CONCERT. The composition was borderline sacrilegious.
Piece?
it’s been 2 years since you commented this but i still have so many questions
I really want to now the name of the piece now
piece name???? lmao
Was it for Brett's Lo-fi?
Hello?
Yes, I called to report two cases of violin abuse.
Music Covers By Essie lol
But not lol
Domestic violinence, it's called
Scordatura is not really violin abuse
do you mean.... twosets of violin abuse?
violin-ce
1:53
IS THAT THE SOUND OF *EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL THAT EVER EXISTED?*
-Brett (probably.)
oui oui
"it sounds familiar"
Maybe brett still remember that one time he and eddie compose a sonata under 1 minute video...
Ezra Aftarekh A I come from the future... and oui oui
I find this video very I N T E R E S T I N G
Oui oui
DerSibbe same here uwu
I actually liked how the Natural Harmonic Glissando sounded.
You could see an example of that natural harmonic gliss in Stravinsky's Firebird.
1:16 Scordatura
1:23 Bartok Pizz
1:29 Sul ponticello
1:35 Col legno
1:44 Natural harmonic glissando
1:53 Artificial harmonic glissando
2:05 Pizz glissando
2:16 Tapping
2:31 Microtones
2:45 ""Silent Fingering""
3:01 Slapping/Striking Strings
3:14 Play on the bridge
3:29 Scatch tone
3:40 Circular bowing
3:50 Subharmonic
4:16 Play behind the bridge
4:28 Brush over the bridge
4:57 Play on the tailpiece
Can you tell how it is written in the notes, or are there any symbols?
@@hemharutyunyan Hmm... I'm not sure since I'm not a string player, but I think most of these would be written explicitly in words (e.g. 'play on the tailpiece', and then the notes may have a different notehead). Some will have normal notation (e.g. pizz glissando, they will just indicate pizz and probably have a gliss line just like a normal note). For more information, you can probably just google, and if you cannot find them on google, there probably isn't an agreed way to notate it because the technique is not commonly used. You can then invent your own notation, as long as it's clear for the performer (if it's too complex, you can also consider to explain it in the programme note)
Thank you!!
@@hemharutyunyan Look up the notation utilised by Penderecki for these techniques, many of which he incorporated into his music. A lot of these he would notate by using headless stems with different shapes around half way through the length of the stem.
@@cooldude123817 Thank's a lot
When you handle a violin for the first time
Everyone: this is weird
Me:
*Sits in the corner using these techniques in composition for some reason*
Literally watching this whilst composing..... And yup I'm considering using them....
Remember, one of the easiest thing in life is playing a musical instrument quickly because "If you can play it slowly, you can play it quickly"
playing on the tailpiece is actually really cool on the double basses - it sounds like there's a Yacht trying to get your attention
Contemporary Violinist: Artificial Harmonic Glissando
TwoSet Violin: you mean violin charades sound effect?
why are like half of these used in danse macabre
Because they're creepy and make the hair on the back of my neck stand up
Lol right
"Learn how to do violin ASMR in 2018 with TwoSetViolin".
And never forget....
If you can play it quickly,
You can play it slowly
...that's actually a legitimate practice strategy btw
As an aspiring composer, this is a great video for violin extended techniques. Thanks guys!
extended does not necessarily mean good
AnimeBoi1348 Most extended techniques can be used very effectively if you understand their textual context and importance. Just because it sounds weird doesn’t mean it’s bad.
As a contemporary composer, I DIED watching this. This is so true, yet hilarious.
Since when was playing like a beginner a professional thing
That Oboe HAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA
What about playing on the piano strings with the violin bow? 😂
Or on wine glasses with violin bow
Piano guys reference 😁😁
Chesed Bongcawel
Yes thank you
In this case, I find "If you can play it, then don't" very suitable.
When you're a violinist and you have a twoset Viola shirt
Ethan Lammayot Ling Ling is proud
This looks like what people do in orchestra class
No one:
Me trolling in beginner orchestra:
You just Composition majors a shload of new ideas! 😆
well I hope not.. if other composers find this as source of ideas, daaaaamn XD
@@rachsky1224 Comp majors at my university already do this :p
Speaking of ideas, I’ve been having composers block for a while... I’m either not satisfied with what I compose or I have trouble finishing pieces. Any advice from composers out there?
@@jeremyevans1135 well thats really bad if the majority of composers nowadays need only this to create something... nothin more to tell...
1:53 Oui oui!
The bridge one was so painful ahhhh
This is just my “practice routine” summed up in one video.
the silent finger tapping was basically violin asmr 😂😂😭
It’s funny since I’m a cellist, Luciano Berio uses that in his _Sequenza XIV_ for cello, and you have to do tapping and silent fingering at the beginning at the same time. It’s kinda soothing actually :)
As someone who plays a lot of new music I've done just about every single one of these in performance. Some of them can actually be very effective when done right!
Side note...love that violinist instinct to do something with your left hand even when you're bowing behind the bridge and it'll make no difference whatsoever to the pitch lol
Combining two techniques at once!! Bowing behind the bridge while doing silent fingering. :)
Ill tell you what’s interesting
If you can play it slowly, you can play it quickly
If you can sit on a sofa for 24 hours, you can run a marathon
Half of the techniques are asmr content
5:38 Eddy looks like he's shooting a bow and arrow
Wait a second, we did the crunchy sound by pushing the bow under the instrument thing and that fact that it's an actual thing gets me every time. 20th century composition truly is a wonder
And I thought circular breathing is crazy.
Then I saw circular bowing
Playing behind the bridge is nOt a 2018 technique, because my mum had to play it in 1973
But it is a contemporary one if you compare it to 19th or 18th century techniques.
I guess they meant 20th and 21th centuries.
yay! Now I know how they make music for horror movies ;D
I think my wardrobe doors are violins .... ;P They make the same sounds ;d
Lol
Another title: techniques that 5th graders use if they're trying to be cool......or if they just don't know how to play😂😂
5:51 Brett's iconic "Stepping on Cockroaches" technique
I'm starting a go fund me for your violins for every dollar donation Eddy and Brett will stop abusing their violins anything helps link in the description
2:17 Um I think you mean 2 HOURS [ASMR] Violin Tapping Tingles (NO TALKING) for Sleep, Studying, and Relaxation
Who'll be practicing 50 hours per day in 2019?
Lingling
@@lucypevensie4367 and his/her/its sibling Ming Ming!
Lingling's new year resolution is to stop slacking off so much and start practicing 80 hours per day.
Me. Have to prepare for Texas All State
"I dont know what this is called" is sometimes called "twist bow" and works on the (muted) strings as well. Although you then might need to loosen the hair (of the bow) a bit to get it to work properly.
Thanks for an awesome channel!
I read on Wikipedia and here is what it’s called. It’s called _chewing._
*An effect sometimes used for humorous effect by string players, “chewing” is performed by loosening the bow hair and placing the bow, bow hair side up, against the back of the instrument. The bow is then rotated causing the bow stick to pop and crunch as it goes over the coarse bow hairs. This effect, which sounds remarkably like a person chewing something crunchy, is fairly quiet and could benefit from amplification.*
1:54 "This sounds familiar"
Artificial harmonic glissando aka oui oui aka little annoying animals in their charges ahah
4:57 onwards
And here we see the emerging stages (facial expressions) of when something you didn’t think would work actually goes extremely well
Ling ling can do all of these at once and it would be rated 40/10 INTERESTING
The most interesting would be 15 notes a second
Why?
Because it sounds like all of those techniques combined
Subharmonics is legit hard though, which is why (to my ear at least) Brett only actually produces the subharmonic combination tone once very briefly in that demo.
Offhand, the only places I'm used to hearing harmonics done reliably:
- Some pipe organs, with two smaller pipes working together to simulate a low note that would usually require a much bigger pipe
- Some oktavists (very deep-voiced singers in a particular mostly-Russian choral tradition)
INTERESTING level 5.
Me: "is this ASMR?"
5:17 i'm sorry but i can't ignore that double chin
"Sounds familiar"
WAR FLASH BACK:
"Brett tries to imitate a dog, monkey, and duck."
Brett Yang
master of animal noises
Another one : Blowing on the strings
4:07 turning a violin into a viola
Just imagine a piece that starts with the cello section playing on the tailpiece! It sounded great
Sounds like a viola to me
No harm intended
3:02 davie 504 wants to know your location
*s l a p p* the violin
just kidding don't do that pls
“I don’t know what this is even called” should be “Popping Bubble wrap on the violin”
Totally Ale stepping on a cockroach
Apparently the actual name many composers and musicians give it is called “chewing” or a “crunch sound” as it sounds similar to someone chewing a crunchy food item.
*people who play things like this all the time raging in the background and explaining why everyone else isnt smart enough to understand the genius even though they're making some of these up*
Damn, now I am calling pick slides "plectrum glissando" XD
*I N T E R E S T I N G 'N T 'N T*
wowww bretty got an undercut hmmm did he move on from hilary senpai ?
lol
5:54 Sounded like your violin was going to rip in half!
The playing in the bridge one makes my hair stand on end. Ugh. What a WONDERFUL sound
It’s not a pleasant sound but it is *I N T E R E S T I N G.*
2:54 Ling Ling does ASMR
Do a piano version of these!
Yess
With Sophie!!!
@@clairev.g.7361 haha yeah that would be great
Listen "Guerro" by Lachenmann
@@math9172 You say that but I've seen pieces with various materials stuck in the strings, using a mallet to hit the strings and rubbingrings with various things. Then there's the wooden block on the keys, face on the keys, tapping the underside of the keyboard, depressing keys without playing them to get sympathetic vibrations, flutter pedalling, forearm tone clusters, all kinds of other techniques as well
"Hello welcome back another episo-BUY THE MERCH!" XDLMFAO
2:45
A S M R
lmao i do the pizzicato glissando everytime on the guitar and violin
Thank you for this breakdown!
What about playing 'fidget spinner pizzicato'?
people put time in coming up with these...
I find microtonal most interesting but is it contemporary? It has always been a part of the kemenche. The middle eastern instrument became the medieval rebec and maybe one could say that the violin is contemporary!
To name and master the numeral microtones in every semitone and knowing all hijaz and maqam is a challenge worthy any Ling Ling.
Good point. I recently started listening to Middle Eastern music and I like it.
I guess people often forget there is other music apart from European?
This is actually very sad that a lot of people don't know about it. There's so much variety! I also like gamelan music and I am looking for something else non-European to listen to.
Іра Піхур
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This is the best video I have ever seen!
currently scrambling around the internet trying to explore some more extended techniques before my composition coursework deadline next week... i think i've learnt more from this than any other online blog/resource
5:07 violin stock images be like
3:14 Mary had a dying wild boar. Lol.
*But can you turn a B into a B Flat?*
this is the best asmr that I watch ever
4:01 damn that sounds like my old printer.