Sightreading Devillish Time Signatures
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ling ling doesn't need to sight read because he knows every piece
And why did he knows every piece ?
Because he practiced all of them :)
Yeah, he practices 40 hours a day
Ling ling practices so much, he mastered every piece before they were even invented
Me: what is 0/0
ling ling: what happens when I play a piece incorrectly
Ling Ling knows the pieces that doesn't even exist, 'cause he memorized ever possible melody in entire universe
Ling ling composes pieces that he practices on, bc he has practiced all pieces that have been ever created
The last piece's time signature is something I would see on one of my physics exams.
I would see it when I look at my grade 6 math exam
i'm pretty sure that was on my ACT test
They should try playing Xenakis - that’s what I call doing maths equations in music
effective resistance?
When you add all the numerators but leave the denominators it becomes 24/16 but when you also add all the denominators it becomes 24/64
Friend: "So are you a composer or mathematician?"
Ligeti: "Yes"
Ligeti was his own thing
Xenakis says hello.
Me: *Yesn't*
F*cking Ligeti. Every f*cking time!
@EinSofVirtuoso
Twoset should try sight-reading mikka and mikka “S”, two of the weirdest and funniest violin pieces in my opinion!
"Complicated time signatures eh? Can't wait to see them tackle 6/8 or 7/8"
>Sees 32/44 and 3/32
"Oh."
And 7/16
I was looking forward to some irrational stuff but was sorely disappointed. 3/32 is just 3/4 but written silly!
@@dylanchope8992 Then the time signature on the last one..
@@kohwenxu that last one was just alternating 5/16 and 7/16, not difficult in the slightest just written weirdly (to save ink)
Wouldn’t it save more ink to just write “5/16 7/16”?
*When your orchestra teacher pulls out a piece written in pi/4 out of nowhere*
Why did I spend like 10 minutes trying to work this out to 3dp??
I think you could but you'd need to be a better musician and a better mathematician than me
Me: *plays first three beats then stops*
Teacher: Why'd you stop?
Me: I'm trying to figure out how much of this next beat goes in the first bar, but nothing I come up with seems rational.
This Daniel Thrasher meme seems unappreciated here. 1, 2, 3.14
Okay so Ive done it to 2 dp
I think...
If you think how 3.5/4 is the same as 7/8, you realise that you need to times 3.14 by X To get a whole number
The smallest X could be is 50
3.14×50 is 157
157 is prime so X can not be lower than 50
therefore Pi/4 is the same as 157/200
So a quintuplet is a 20th note so I think that that must mean a 50-tuplet is a 200th note
So in the time signature pi/4 (to 2 dp) you'd play 3 groups of 50-tuplets and 1 group where you play the first 7 beats of a 50-tuplet
However, you wouldn't have to play all 50 notes inside the 50-tuplet, you'd only play like 20 notes and then you could come up with some really cool rhythms
Please can you like my comment because this took a lot of brain power
@@tom_4615 This is beautiful. Of course you get different numbers based on how many significant figures you use. If we use 3.141 we would play 3 sets of 200 tuplets and the first 185 notes of a 200 tuplet.
Nobody has mentioned that they're putting an expensive piece of tech on a not-particularly-sturdy music stand
.....
My first thought
its an ipad pro lol
I noticed too
annie cheng So?
All music stands are like that, I've never seen one stand properly and that's their only job
Eddy: "That's not even music!"
Ligeti: "Shut up Mom, it's my _art!"_
It sounded like something out of a 70s horror movie.
@@draykeblack doesn't surprise me, because Ligeti is also the author of obelisk theme from "Space Odyssey" :)
Anton Nidhoggr he wrote a lot of music featured in that movie
Mom: You rewrite that in 3/4 right now or I will kung pao your chicken!
@@ashbu_guitar Or 12/8
Twoset: *sightreading devillish time signatures*
Jazz musicians: "first time?"
Seriously is 5/8 that hard. John petrucci changes time signature 118 times in 7 minutes and he doesn’t have sheet music, not to mention he literally sweep picks half the time. Like that bartok piece is not the S-tier difficulty piece they were making it out to be
Simon Balbus-Holmquist it’s easier to change time signatures when you play by memory than sight reading
Even petrucci would have hard times sightreading music at his same level
Victor Ibelles Mx that actually makes a fuck ton of sense. The level of effort it would take to learn let alone write dance of eternity is probably more than any sight reading ever. I guess the process of learning and writing in rock music is equivalent to sight reading in classical!
Simon Balbus-Holmquist learning music is the same, because your muscle memory is doing the job, when Petrucci plays his odd time signatures he’s not thinking and counting , his muscle memory is doing everything, if a classical musician learns music even if it is trough sheet music he is developing muscle memory too... so it’s the same
The problem with sight reading is that you don’t have any muscle memory for what you are about to play, so you have to think and count and prepare yourself for the next measure at the same time your playing something
Now for sight reading vs writing... I would say it’s harder to write actually
Simon Balbus-Holmquist Pd: playing by memory odd time signatures like dance of eternity isn’t that hard because your brain and hand learns it as 1 .... but writing a song with 118 time changes.... damn ... that’s pretty sick
When Brett is playing a very difficult piece, Eddy exuberantly helps him count.
When Eddy is playing a very difficult piece, Brett melts into the wall and dies.
EDIT: Thanks for all the likes and the spell check. :)
I read this just as it happened. 😆
There are two types of people
So accurate!
Ps. It's spelt Eddy ;)
Screw autocorrect it’s Eddy
there like a married couple lol
time signature: *isn't 4/4 or 3/4*
me: *chuckles* i'm in danger
2/4 and 6/8: Are we a joke to you?
//casually playing 5/4//
*cries in 9/8 and 12/8*
Anthony Rafael yes
*cries in 3/8*
9:30 that’s a damn math equation that ain’t no time signature
And the answer is 20/16 :)
@@alexkashanchi4122 no its 24/16
@@asloii_1749 ah mb
That could’ve been 6 4
Eddy while Brett sightreads: helpfully counting the weird rhythms for him
Brett while Eddy sightreads: laughing uncontrollably, falling asleep
If you're singing in the shower and get shampoo in your mouth, does it become a soap opera?
This is the best worst joke i have ever heard and i absolutely love it
no, it became shampoo opera :>
Yes
I hate this
i dunno how this is related to the video
and its not even good why am i laughing
I love how in their last episode they were warning people to be careful when using the bow because they might hit someone, then in this video Brett proceeds to hit Eddy with the bow
oof the irony
brett being a hazard +1
stubs well those are middle school students; eddy and Brett have built up a resistance to bow smacking over thebyears
Haha haha literally loled when that happened
I was reading through the comments and just as I read this I got to that part
You call these time signatures hard? *laughs/cries in percussion*
Okay but what actually is the purpose of that 3/32 time signature? The only time those time signatures make any sense is in pieces where the time signature changes constantly. Otherwise the composer is just trying to be edgy and making their piece look complex and innovative, when in reality it's just in 3/4 with extra lines.
Omllll TRUTH. I'm not a percussionist but in my high school wind ensemble I play clarinet and sometimes times signatures are so ridiculous and it's like???? You could have just. Made it simpler like it would have been the damn same what are you dooooing.
I mean, that's /exactly/ the purpose of the 3/32 time signature. The movements of Telemann's Gulliver Suite is based off of the four nations in Gulliver's Travels: The Lilliputian Chaconne is in 3/32 but is exactly like 3/4, and the Brobdingnagian Gigue is in 24/1 but is exactly like 12/8. (The Laputa Reverie is even more annoying, being in 3²⁄₂/4 aka 4/4)
I love to play soundtrack music. Ganon's theme (zelda) is all over the place with rhythm, as is L's theme (Death Note) if you are looking for a rythmic challenge for any insturment I would highly reccomend both.
Bach did that too with his Prelude & Fugue in G major
I feel slightly sorry for having written euclidian rhythm in music before... Technically two different rhythms for two instruments (a 5 beat one and a 7 beat one with quantization level at 1/16 notes) and the percussion is a sum of both so a bit harder in that regards.
"That's not even music" for composers is roughly equivalent to "if you can play it slow you can play it fast" for violinists.
9:30 When you want to be a composer but mum wants you to be mathematician
That's why in Carnatic music you have to be a mathmetician.
It's basically just 24/16. What the creators of this music mean by having a mathematical addition problem as the numerator is that they want you to play the time signature as number of notes in a specific way. Like 3+2/4, it's 5/4 but they (the creator of the music), want you to play the time signature like 3 quarter notes then 2 quarter notes instead of 5 at once. Real easy to understand. And in this case 3+2/16+3+2+2/16+3+2/16+3+2+2//16 as 3 16th notes then 2 16 notes than 3 16th notes then 2 16 notes then 2 16th notes, etc. I hope this all makes sense but I am still a good so.
9:32 When your music becomes Algebra.... it’s time to stop...
evandarkfire 😂😂😂
I mean that's not actually algebra but your point still stands
tara k yeah it is, you’re solving for your depression
@@evancrazyerror lmao
When i clicked on the timestamp i got an add for simply piano ... help me
"Why do I have to take math if I'm a music major?"
9:30 You slow math, you lose.
01:35 "Oh yeah, [new strings] change the rhythm" Eddy needs an ice pack for that BURN lmaoooo
No one:
Brett on almost every twoset intro: *coming out of nowhere*
It's soooooooo cute.
It had been a long time since he hadn't done it. To be honest, I kinda missed it... 😄
Have my 90th like ma- person....
Coz he sets the camera everytime 😂
Khatrina Does Art I see what you did there. I see you are a person of culture as well
Extra premium cute
Brett: I feel like the notes have taken over.
You know what else has taken over? Us not being able to practise because you keep on uploading daily videos. 😂
The "drought" during the preparation of the tchai-drop is over :D
Worth it!! 🎶
Ling Ling is not proud of you. He can watch two set violin while mentally practicing at the same time
Didn’t Brett say that?
Brett said it and this video was made before the Tchaikovsky live stream. (Eddy says he changed the strings yesterday and in the live stream he said he changed it a week ago.)
Admit it guys, the only reason you like watching these sight reading videos is because you enjoy seeing Eddy and Brett suffer. ;)
Eddy : "dude what is this... That's not even... That's not even... Music"
Me: is that a math test piece ?
*after hearing*:
Yup. This is not even muskc, It's plain boring
me: i'm a drummer, i play by ear
also me: another way of saying i can't sight read complex time signatures
Is there musical notation for drumming?, not hating just curious!
Yep, as far as I know, they also notate their music on a 5-line staff.
@@MarcelSimader yep and depends on the type of drum, there are 3 and 2lined staffs too
Martiddy - Sama
Yes, there is also a “percussion clef” although instruments will usually be denoted with text since most pieces notate their drums with different “legends” if you will.
paeffill
Most of the drum parts I personally play use percussion clef, but as you say, it really depends on the composer.
9:25 when your math teacher subbed for music class
People AreCool Yep, that looked more like an algebra equation rather than a legit time signature 😅😆
"Just simplify it, it'll be fun."
People AreCool yup
While Brett is sleeping, Ling Ling is putting is 40 hours of practice to GOOD USE! 👏👏👏
The only thing devilish here is how good these two are at sightreading
For people like me who had to search up what the music actually sounds like...
Edit: omg they hearted my comment😭
0:38 brahms piano trio no.3 op.11
1:30 Bartok mikrokosmos no.150
2:42 Telemann gulliver sonata liiliputsche chaconne
3:23 Bach BWV 212
3:53 Mozart oboe quartet 3rd movement
4:41 Debussy nocturnes ll. Fêtes
5:34 Prokofiev violin sonata no.1
7:31 Berg lyrische suite l. allegretto gioviale
8:38 Revueltas sensemaja
9:25 Ligeti violin concerto l. vivacisimo luminoso
Pohchinki Caleb thanks
Wow
Some heroes don't wear capes.
Thank you for this!
What was the opening piece he was playing when the vid started?
JN Zeppeli i think it’s tchaikovsky violin concerto in d major(the very beginning)
Me: struggles to play Twinkle Twinkle in tune after a month of practising
Also me: HaHa, he changed strings, but still left 2 fine tuners like an absolute n00b
Why i like this comment so much
you da man! haha
lmfao
welp he's just being humble, he said he left it there on purpose
two fine tuners aren't a big deal. some pros also have two of them
10:00 Brett’s expression here pretty much perfectly captures the mood of this piece.
9:35 when your time signature is a mathematical equation
TwoSet: "We're sightreading"
Also TwoSet: Plays better than me after days of practice
Csharp - anime music i mean to be fair they’ve probably been playing longer than you
@@thatsalittlebassist True, but I'm also not new by any means (at least good enough to be a violin tutor), and watching them just makes me feel like a beginner lol
3:18
"There's too many lines, my eyes are blurring it out"
Ling Ling doesn't take excuses.
Just Some Guy without a Mustache How the heck are u everywhere?!
Hanna Jagiela omg I was also boutta say that. He’s always high up in the comments of so many vids!
Lingling can sight read with eyes closed
me and just some guy must have the same exact fucking interests LOL
New lingling sight-reading challenge. Add 3 lines to every note value, then play.
When I saw the last piece I was like what the heck, how does this even exsist?😂
9:46 Brett sleeping in the background......
when you see only one person is doing the opening:
I see what is happening.
"Rest rest rest rest"
- Brett, circa. 2020
"Dude, that's not even music" [sightreads it and it turns out to be hauntingly beautiful.. kinda]
Nah, It's Just noise, boring noise even
Vinícius de A Batista I disagree but I listen to free jazz so, I don’t have Bach’s harmonic and rhythmic sensibilities. I eat minor 9ths, tritones, and semi-tones for breakfast, so ligeti just sounded like Technical death metal, or European free jazz but classical. I like both those genres so I like ligeti!
Love Ligeti's late music. His violin concerto is great
It’s beautiful noise that’s what it is
2:51 Honestly that time signature is just pretentious. It’s kinda like having your time signature be 3/2 instead of 3/4; there’s no real reason to do it except just to say that you can. You end up with basically a standard time signature written in an unusual way.
It's based off of Gulliver's Travels, it's actually a funny comedy joke if you get the reference
3/32?!
Me: *no music knowledge whatsoever*
TwoSet: "OMG what the hell is that? It's so difficult!"
Me: "Yeah, literally, what the hell is that?"
"Welcome back to.."
THE BRETT INTRO YASS missed it so much.
RIP ears tho. But worth it.
Brett’s got his pre-Tchaik drop energy back! 😂❤️
Same, I missed it, it's so nice to have our silly Brett back ! 😄
YAAAY
“What could the twist be” that you’re COMPUTER is on a WIRE STAND and it somehow DIDNT FALL
10:36
Eddy looks very determined to finish this piece
10:00 AGT Judges during a competent and well executed classical music performance:
Loooool so true
I was genuinely concerned for Brett at that moment. Like dude, you still alive?
ad before video: playing the tchaikovsky violin concerto
eddy at beginning of video: perfectly continuing the tchaikovsky right where it left off
brett: sCreAmS
me: MINDBLOWN
That is perfect timing. 😅
8:12 - Someone had a bunch of music notation cutouts and sprinkled them randomly here.
8:17, oh yeah, the famous perfect pizz boy in action 🤣🤣🤣
3:13 Eddy’s like “If you can’t play it, just dance to it”
wow.. TwoSet must have loads of confidence in that music stand.
Music stand falls: *screams of horror*
P.S. Eddy might let it fall though..
while he tightly hold on to his violin & bow.
Min Yeo but not a baby LOL
Yeah I noticed too
Babe am I a music stand? Because I’m falling for you
They should make a video where they guess the classical composer based on a pop song played in that composer’s style. What do y’all think.
"Counting to "x" has never been so hard before"
Brett's entry showed his energy back, but he got worn out by Eddy playing Ligeti
I would have guessed this video was filmed before the tchai-drop. Because Eddy would have changed strings twice in February? He did it a week before the livestream and one day before this video.
Blaues Pony when you practice 40 hours a week you go through strings faster? 😂🤣
@@bindak That must be it :D
Blaues Pony I thought about that too. This must be a pre-Tchak video.
Blaues Pony, you Are a Sherlock Holmes Level deductive detective! Of course! I was wondering how much playing was required to change the strings so frequently! So this confirms my belief that they make a few videos in a block, then release them over the week...that’s my explanation for the sometimes crazy state their hair is in. I picture them pulling tee shirts and jumpers off and on over their heads as they try and make each video look like it’s filmed on a different day.
**notification of TwoSetViolin**
Me: I’m happy now
Nevermind the time signatures, I'm more impressed that they can play those ridiculous doublestops so perfectly...
LOL I love the part around 9:10 where Eddy helps Brett count XD
The return of the Brett dead face, AND the Brett intro. Boy i've missed you!
Me too
HOW YALLS INTERNET SO FAST
Oya Oya Oya Oya Oya Oya
I clicked on the notification right away and still not be the first comment.
Btw i'm a Haikyuu fan too.
Hey Hey Hey
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AHDNDKDN MY FRIEND SENT ME THIS COMMENT SPECIFICALLY TO ME WHEN SHE SAW IT
Oya Oya Oya HAHAHA I LOVE IT
Your username and profile pic are the best
* Irrational time sighnatures laughing silently in 5/7 *
As an oboist, I can confirm that the Mozart is pretty treacherous, especially considering you were playing it half time lol
Brett and Eddy : Already struggling on Level 1
Me Watching: It’s Okay Guys...it will get *harder*
Here we go again - TwoSet trying to reach Ling Ling's skills. 😂
4:42
My brain: I see ANIME
My brain also: But the e is é...
7:39 Hey so cool to see this piece here! Berg is great and this piece is what got me into modern music(and atonality)
Bonus curiosity: That was also the piece that got Bartok to completely throw out the window standard harmony and devolve his own system, just listen to how similar his third String quartet sounds to Lyrische suite, composed a year after he heard a premier of it in Hungary!
This time signature is just standing here...MENACINGLY.
they sight reading irregular times- beginners could never
As a beginner I didn't care about the time signatures, I just played 😂
9:05
I remember playing Sensemayá and this spot got the whole orchestra scratching their heads for a good bit ⚰️
I like how Eddy pays attention to dinamics and articulation markings and Brett is just playing through it randomly lol
Eddy: That's not even music!
Me: I totally agree! ( being a baroque and classical lover)
PS: Brett and Eddy sound so beautiful doing duets together (even just sight-reading them) they should do them more often for us.
But it's actually music :)
@maurmi Haha, just had the same comment myself :)
@@musicphilex2124 That's precisely the thing - contemporary composers want to express "their ideas", while classic composers such as Beethoven, Bach or Schubert express ideas which are universal, sublime, transpersonal, divine, larger than that of ordinary human experience - the Music of God. Which is why it continues to touch our souls, centuries after it was composed - and will continue to do so for many more centuries to come
@@musicphilex2124 I will check it out, I ll keep my mind open
Plus when we could finally do what our teachers tell us all the time! LISTEN TO CLASSICAL MUSIC!!
don't you just love it when their friendship shines in the video? XD
kyaaa yes I do.
YES 🌞
Most adorable videos honestly
I love that the harder it is, the closer they look the sheet 😂 I feel like looking to a cryptic writings of a lost ancient language.. how do you musicians read those and translate it into.. sounds that make sense? Mad respect, honestly.
But seriously, check out that Ligeti piece. It's awesome when you're listening to it and not performing it lol.
video title: includes the word “devilish”
my brain: i understood that reference
video: no paganini
me: surprised pikachu face
(im not a musician)
3:01: those are what you call hemidemiremitemilemifemisemiquavers.
They are called ghgdggfcbbs mlm pirsqaxc nhgfgfdddgnk ury efhiyghnhfcc xss zsdgjk,
Llpknvcghjjjbbcszcvbnuyttuthgxteqqaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasdfghjklpoiuyytrrewqzxccvbnnm,.$=÷#%;??)]]](,?%"#--@÷/♤◇££¥₩₩¥£}|~^^~|^~\|{}€£¥₩▪︎○●□■♤♡◇♧☆⊙°•¤ m,phfghggquaverssemiequavers
Lol they're thousandandtwentyfourths
@@Noosh_noot Also called Semihemidemisemiquavers note
(Also in italian they are called "fusa")
@@takureido3122 .... oh ok...
@@takureido3122 I don't think they're fusas I think they're like semifusas
Looking at this just makes my eyes bleed, I have never mastered counting while playing. It’s either I play or I count, there is no in between, I want an instrument that counts for me 😢
brett sunshine boy in the beginning 🥺🌞
If there is one thing I have learned about people who compose for violin. Is that they are so bored with all the normal music, and because they all want to show off, they need to come up with crazier and stranger pieces. Music that gets closer to technical music. Music for the musicians.
Violinists are the jugglers of the music world. All the basic things have been done to death, so they need to come up with stranger and stranger music in order to stand out.
And whats the funny bit? The basic consumer of this music doesn't really care about that stuff.
You're telling me these pieces are the equivalent of juggling eggs and chainsaws at the same time? No reason to but they can so why not. (｀・∀・´)
Ligeti is a G
Violins aren’t the only instruments getting crazy music what are you saying...
@@Dance_Party *coughs in piano*
@@Dance_Party coughcoughBerioSequenzascoughcough
*It would be interesting*
To see Brett and Eddy try playing Rhythm Games such as *"OSU!"* or *"Cytus"*
What about deemo :(
Click the circles!
Them playing any rhythm game may not translate well at all
That would be interesting to see definitely
Dancing line
2:38 There was ZERO reason to write that in 32nds. You could have easily written that in 3/4 and get the same result. Telemann was taking the piss.
It was meant to be joke as the Liliputsche are small or tiny, therefore Telemann used it as a joke to use 3/32 time signature and that makes sense.
Brett just became transcendental during that last piece of eddie’s.
When you’re so early you have nothing to say-
Brett intro scare me. I missed it so much.
How to sound like a beginner at violin:
or
That one kid in orchestra that doesn’t know the piece:
9:33 - 10:53
Good job Eddie 😂
This probably was one of the experiences that led Eddy to get glasses; there's so many points where he can't read the music! I know the feel though; it's hard when you've gone your entire life without glasses and suddenly you realize you can't read stuff from far away anymore. I can still read music on a stand but I can't read people's powerpoint slides comfortably without glasses anymore.
Meanwhile, I'm over here having trouble alternating between pieces in cut time and common time.
Me: *needing a 5 minute break from studying*
Turned on my phone and received a 15 minute late notif on twoset's new vid.
Also me: I'll always have time for TwoSet. *Well there goes my next hour on their channel*
That “rest rest rest rest” was so cute
1:44 the faint airhorn fucking killed me. Love the editing twoset keep it up shits flawless
bach: imma do fun stuff.
mozart: this is ridiculous. this might be fun.
brahms: cool
telemann: this is hard. i like it.
stravinsky: 'digging up idea' that's cool. imma took it further.
other 20th century composers: welp, i guess we have no choice.
Me when my teacher tells me to compose stuff with weird ass time signatures: BUT THINK ABOUT THE MUSICIANS
Sometimes I don't get why composers do the things they do. Like that 3/32 one. Why?! You can just do the same thing with 3/8 lol
@@karenliu529 Some composers have an idea that this gives a different "feel" to the music. I believe it's just to mess with people, because there's literally no difference but it being harder to read
Their sight reading skills are soooooo on point
Ever time I see that iPad on that super flimsy music stand I get nervous 😂
They can do all of that when I can’t even do 3/2 correctly.
My new practice level:*Asian*
Who's here before the hour mark of this being posted?✌
Me 👍
Just made it!
@@cycoekiller119 Welcome, my friend!
*Eddy playing beautiful music* Brett: aAahHhHhHhhh
Last one was like some anime violin battle scene, with all that messy hair and sweet drops.
Stop reading the comments and start
P R A C T I C I N G!
Brett's screaming intro!!!🤣🤣🤣
Correction on the last piece: the time signature is 4/dotted quarter, which is then grouped as 16th note groupings of 5+7+5+7 where the group of 3 in each uneven grouping comes first. In other words, the actual time signature is 12/8, but the real rhythmic material is alternating 5/16 and 7/16
Oh wow. The last piece was composed by Gyorgy Ligeti, wich is the composer of the famous Requiem for a soprano that played in 2001 a space oddisey. Wasn't expecting twoset to know much about modern/avant garde composers.