How do you make the deepest bass?
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- Bass music production trick time! Here's a little psychoacoustic trick that makes deep things sound even deeper: make sure the fundamental note is very low, the harmonics are dense, but during the mix-down feel free to snip off all those low frequencies to make space for a dedicated sub-bass.
The track I analyse: Nox Vahn & Joseph Ray - Inhibitions ► • Nox Vahn & Joseph Ray ...
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Content:
0:00 audio example
0:50 the basic sawtooth wave
1:55 doing the same in your DAW
2:18 low frequencies problems
3:10 the fuller result
3:28 key takeaways
4:00 does it need to be analog?
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This is gold. It connects the act of sound design with the psychology of perception. Probably your best video, and only 5 minutes long.
Waiting for the crispiest hi-hat, and snappiest snare! Amazing content... !!! its too bad they dont have a level 2 bell you can ring on your youtube channel.. kind of like an 808 cowbell
Free your inhibitions. Immediately usable advice and straight to the point. Works great for a plucky bass sound as well. Fired up the sub phatty, sampled a nasty, plucky low bass, filtered out the fundamental, and my 808 kicks and toms punch right through with a nasty, nasty bass line over them.
This was great for me thank you! I am a beginner and you answered all my questions and also elevated me by taking music theory- right on teaching method🙏🏼
You’re the man. Keep doing what you do !
Really good stuff man, love the video! Interesting technique :)
Clean Tutorial as always! The Bass you created is much like a psychedelic trance Bass. In this genre, much of this focused on that kind of Synthesis.
Thank you Oscar ! Deep in the lows but high on sharing tips !
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Great video. Thanks! You know I dug out my Korg M1 I bought new back in 1990 and put just such a slope on a project. Pitch bend and all. Got close to your example. Fun!
Nice! Good to know that the work of beasts like Joseph Ray is starting to get recognised by other Ableton tutors. I thought mine was the only one!!! His uniquely deep low end is fun to try and break down. Love your vids, Oscar!
Je blijft me verrassen, Oscar! Niet alleen door het geven nieuwe inzichten, ook doordat je video's steeds meer 'eigen' worden.
Crazy man bringing it again!! Super tutorial, bedankt weer!
Oscar, thank u 4 your videos! Every video is a new source of inspiration 4 me
Great info, I can certainly relate when I’m mixing tracks with too many basses and will separate them out into their own space in the mix mainly band passes. And especially leaving a hole for the kick drum. But I didn’t know about the perception thing that’s really sweet to know! Thanks !
Oscar throwing gems as usul. Thanks mate!!
This is fantastic, used it in two tracks already and I've it's going to take me a while to get bored of slinging bass about :D cheers mate
A comment outside the box. you have mastered the terminology, my friend. I am very impressed by how easily you can express and explain things. Very clever!
He's definitely put the reps in! Well deserved.
This is the golden tutorial. Thank you. 🧠
Oscar, be careful, because at some point we will ask you to make visual tutorials as well!
Spot on, as always! Keep in on mate.
The best hardware synth for Bass I can recommend is the Korg Volca Bass. You can pick them up used between €70-€100 and it has 3 analog oscillators and midi-in. By itself it sounds a bit weak, but add some drive/delay/reverb in Ableton or with Pedals and it absolutely slaps.
Great tip!
So good!
Whaaaat? You change my mind ! Thnx!
Woof 🐶
Please make a bigger video on kick n bass relations and frequencies 🙏🏻
I've unsuscribed to every others youtube producers , ur the best i dont need anyone else 😁
Those pair of Adam's are sick
Really cool that you made my recommendation into a video :D.
I didn’t get it at all that the bassline in this track has no low end, but after I watched your video, it seems so clear. You showed us a monster technique. Thank you.
If you can’t get enough of basslines, I got you: “Thomas Schumacher & Victor Ruiz - Intuit”
Yeah i made a big list of them and will do a few of them as track analysis on patreon as well 😁🫶🏻 really appreciate your input!
@@OscarUnderdogI am happy that I could inspire you. Really curious which tracks you will analyze on Patreon. I am looking forward to it.
Thanks, man!
Gotta bring that boooooomin bass!!!
My speakers aren't the biggest so I put my headphones on to listen - wow, that's a deep sound you can hear and feel (if your speakers are big enough) - Thanks for explaning this 🙂
Oscar with the absolute heat 🔥🔥🔥
Love this tutorial. Diggin the Sub 37. I had one too but ended up getting a Voyager EB. Still wondering if I need another 37🤓. Keep up the amazing videos!
a studio without a moog is no studio.
Nice! I'd love a video where you approach the endless discussion of analog vs digital.
digital is a good copy of analog... it can almost do what analog does, but when you push it, it just breaks, analog on the other hand when you push it up into the areas people say not to do... becomes that extra thing that you hear in great tracks
Well I haven't push the digital, but I'm sure that good things can be carved out of digital too... I think the issue is not that it breaks, rather that it's user interface is pretty limited and the expressivity through the mouse is just not expressive... what do you think?@@wizards001
Yes i want to know !
Hell yeah!! Now that's exactly my jam. I've been trying to achieve that for so, so long Oscar. I can't believe I didn't think of shifting the pitch..!
Also, there is a slightly different kind of bass that I can't quite figure out how to make. I hear it often in tracks from Township Rebellion. It's a way larger bass, it takes a whole lotta space and usually happens at a drop. It's kinda similar to that "bwwaaahhh" from Inception :D
If you ever explore that, please share your discoveries with us
When i want to make things sound "larger", i try some kind of double tracking, apply a slight pitch difference between them and make sure each track plays with a difference of around 12-30 miliseconds between each other. Some minor slow modulation on them also helps.
Interesting... could I hear an example of that somewhere?@@harshmellow1706
Ha your video fx are amazing
BRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrwwwwhhhoooo sounds god, thank you. I'll try to make this sound with the Operator from Ableton.
Reminds me off west coast rap beats: using a 808 as low bass and moog/acid bassline in the lower mids for more melodic stuff
i cant resist, when you dance, i have to dance too
Thx Oscar...👍👍👍
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this is very common in modern dubstep sound design!
Thanks for this! In case u have a drop where no kick only bass is running are you automating eq to bring back the low freqs on the bass?
Klaus veen basslines is a huge need
Interesting...very interesting.
I’ve been wondering about the bass line on that track myself as it seems to contain both a deep kick with rumble plus the pitchdown bass without clashing into a mess. I guess another trick could be to tune the kick to an A so that the pitched bass melts in naturally and create this illusion of bottom end. What do you think?
Cheers from Norway ✌🏻
You cut the low end at 120hz, is that generally where to cut the low end on a dominant bass line or is it dependent on the fundamental frequency? Or do you just play with it till it sounds right? :)
Solid content as always. Love and thanks from Los Angeles!
Totally just felt that it was the sweet spot for this particular sound. Any higher and it sounded thin & weak, any lower and it felt like it would compete with the rumble!
The latter is the best approach. Listen, and adjust until it "works" the way you want it to.
Amazing. You make the deepest bass and it's not particularly deep at all. It's the growl of those really low oscillators with the fundamental filtered out. I might go for a slightly less steep filter, but I'm in the studio right now to try it out. I tend to spend a lot of time making very detailed bass for the dance floor, and it gets lost on smaller systems. This is the foundation of a better technique.
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Great one 👍 but what i found really interesting is the groovy rumble underneath. Can you explain how you made it so deep & groovy?
he's got a video on the rumble part other tune do but same principle
Yeah I’d say check the techno rumble mastery video! ☺️
The rumble it self ist not the problem. I still don't figured out how i can apply that rhythm to the lowend which is slightly clompexer than just a dotted 8 delay. Maybe you can give me a tip to complete the puzzle 🧩😊
The Korg Monopoly vst makes also good warm basses
1500th like, and i thought i'd just come back to say that i use this trick all the time now...
remember to use linear pahse when cutting that steep especially with bass
So let me see if I got this right, we can actually exploit the missing fundamental effect by having one instrument, a low mid range bass with its first harmonics suppressed by an EQ, and a second instrument or kick drum, playing in the same key as the low mid range bass, and we will have this interplay between these two instruments that add up to different notes, one providing the low fundamental frequencies via kick or sub, and one the high frequencies and the tonality?
Please analyse Angel Doom, its the track with the deepest bass I know
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This is a very cool trick. Very useful ❤ PS. i also asked "But Oscar I don't have a mogue synthesizer" but without a moustache 🧔♂😆
Noice.
I'm going deep, deep deep even deeper
I was wondering why cut completely the low end of the bass when the alternative is simply sidechaining it with the kick?
This is a real fun video, man! Did you know that?
moustache powa !
Not clear : Where does the 'big thick low end' comes from? Another track?
Yep! A rumble I created, check out my rumbles video for the technique.
A Brick-wall at 120Hz 👍
I bet no one can recreate the bass of DJOKO - Advice Needed. Good luck
Thanks for the Mmmwwwwwwooooooooooowwwwwww!
It seems that deep bass of this track is just 2nd kick drum with low pass filter on it. So it doesn't play note, it just sub bass drum.
use a tarus pedal
Ever heard of a low pass filter?
My wife doesn't like it when I go from the C to the A. 😉
She likes it in the A first?
Dude, that's just fucking gross.
What about Mariana Vst?