Why your low end sounds amateur (maybe)
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2024
- Let's talk about the deep low end, the sub frequencies. Do your subs groove? Are you overengineering your mixdown? Are you stressing the heck out and you are overcomplicating your life?
Chill! Let's play a game & learn how to listen to bass frequencies, and what to listen for to make sure yours sound groovy. In Ableton Live, I'll teach you how to use shelving filters to balance your frequencies, but you can follow along in any DAW.
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Content:
0:00 Let's play a game...
1:03 The cloakroom check
2:15 What bass was best?
4:55 The tools to shape your low end
8:21 What's a polymeter?
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Hello, Oskar. I have recently gotten into music production. I'm very confused about sidechaining multiple tracks from one track. Is there a way to put one sidechained compressor on one track but then have that one compressor work on multiple tracks? Have you already made a video about this that I could maybe watch? By the way, you're my favorite producer/teacher on UA-cam and your videos have already helped me immensely. Thank you, from Portugal :)
@@thedarknight5714 I'm curious to hear Oscar's answer as well, but what I have done is use a separate, silent, very transient track to act as a trigger for multiple elements to be side-chained, to keep them all in sync.
You can also route all tracks you want to be effected by one common side-chained compressor to a separate bus, before routing them the master.
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@@thedarknight5714 I hope I understand your question correctly.. but I suppose you want one compressor ducking (sidechain compress) multiple tracks. If you make a group channel and put a sidechain compressor on it, you can route all the channels you like throught that compressor. grtz
@@qracle TBH I have no idea what a bus is or what it does (or how to route to a master XD) I've heard people mention it on many occasions but I've never seen anyone explain it. That's mia culpa, though. Thank you for the tip, man. :)
@@michaelleenen2634 Oh I actually already do that. Probably not how it's meant to be done though ha ha. I think that the other commenter's idea involving a bus is worth looking into, however. Thanks for the advice, bro. :)
it drives me nuts how some producers can get their bass so HUGE, yet it sounds clear and clean, and it doesn't disrupt any other sounds in the mix. how the hell
Tell me about it
It's probably all in the mastering
@@Flux_One mixing
@@020halo both
@@Flux_One It all starts at production stage. Sound design choices , frequency balance, mix. Mastering is just to polish stuff that is already good
You inspire me so much. I have been wondering in the dark without realizing it. You make difficult concepts so clear and simple. I can't thank you enough. I hope you have a wonderful day.
Well said 👍
Wondering or wandering?
@@AlexFarleyMusic Both:)! Loll
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My instincts were wrong about this even though my perception was accurate.
I felt 1) was natural sounding and clean, 2) had a “pumping” effect that I personally find nauseating, and 3) had a flat, inoffensive bed of bass that never prodded you or jostled you around.
But your explanation and elaboration on why 2) is indeed the most desirable option for a club setting-something I’m not familiar with admittedly -were both so clear and well-organized, I was convinced. You are an excellent communicator. Subscribed.
Thanks for saying that! However, I’m only putting forward one argument for why 2 is best, it’s totally a judgement call and tastes differ, I think it’s just cool to be able to put words on it so you can make decisions that suit your taste!
The thing is though being an art it’s totally subjective and you can make what you want. Though if you had been shown the examples on a bigger system you may come to the same conclusion on 2 being the better more balanced mix. Still music is about making what you like and sometimes break the ‘rules’ is a way of coming up with something original and unique. I personally love reverb heavy mixes that break the rules on having the wet just there. Then I go can shape and side chain bits of the wet signal to make it work and not muddy up the mix. Breaking the rules then coming up with my own way of making work a d sort be back in the rules again. Trust your instincts I’d say and experiment. Sometimes though it’s worth checking and really analysing the mixes of who you aspire to and see what your missing.
Oscar, not the first time I'm impressed by your videos. It's not the content of your lessons, it is your perspective on music production and the way you approach solutions to all the issues. Really worth following and I recommend your channel as often I can.
it's not even my genre, but this has been so helpful. really great content especially compared to other vids! that last shelf tip was pure gold. also nice that you gave a actual reference when it comes to the kick and bass instead of "just use your ears"
Oscar, the quality of these videos are just headed through the roof. Great work man, very very inspiring. Thanks!
i watched this quick video and loaded up an old project of mine to help balance the low end and it helped a lot. the best part of the video was how he shows 3 different low ends, PLAYS IT and talks about it AS it is playing so as to show ppl what to listen for. That one thing really trains your ear a lot more than someone just talking about it. After checking my own low end, it sounded much more balanced, great channel
Your tuition videos are so good and clear to understand .
Thank you for all your help 🙏
This is my favourite video of yours to date. Awesome editing, engaging and great analysis. Great stuff
This is something I found helped a lot while mixing a full length album for the first time. Hip-hop stuff with lots of samples and unseparated drum loops so the EQ was my best friend when trying to balance layers on a track, especially in the low end. Well done video and super helpful tip I wish I learned sooner. Take his advice!!
Thanks Oscar. That is still a valuable refresher to an advanced producer. Yes, its true id forgotten this basic mindset and been using 'clever' techniques rather than doing the groundwork properly. Much appreciated as are many of your videos. Thanks Lee
Thank you, this is the most clear and easy to follow tutorial on low end I've seen!
This tip is a game changer for me at the moment. Super focused on how I can improve low end lately. Cheers!
The content here is always right to the point. No frills. Thank you.🙏
Wow man, I love how with the shelf filter part you really explained it at every level and demonstrated it making sure even a person barely paying attention could still understand
OMG!!! My musical production journey is pretty recent (2-3 years) and I can't believe this is the first time I see this trick. So powerful! Thanks a lot Oscar.
Clean editing, visuals & production. I like your overall energy & content too. Great video, Oscar!
Really good vid! Loving what you said about some masking being good and the effortlessness of not over complicating the mix translates in the feeling of the track :)
Thanks man. Really helpful videos. I’ve been working way my through a few recently.
It’s funny how you spend years chasing your tail and then someone gives you a method which just makes complete sense.
Subscribed. 👍🏻
Love your videos man. Great tips, explained in a way that my ADD doesn't get triggered. 🤘
For over a decade I have constantly over-complicated this subject. I knew it had to be so much simpler than how I was imagining.
This is absolutely perfect and has broke down and confirmed all the things I knew I should/shouldn’t have been doing!!!
Wicked video and I instantly subscribed. Easy to follow and to the point. Thanks mate!!!
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speaking as a beginner: this video was SO informative, straight to the point, and easy to understand. thank you for making this video! the cloakroom check trick is genius.
also im so proud of myself for choosing #2 lol
Great stuff as usual! TYWM Oscar. Just to add : this is the first time I saw you dancing than actually just grooving! No matter what ... You Rock!!!!
Hey man, just wanted to say I've learnt so much from your videos. They are incredible and make such complex topics simple. Thank you for everything, you've brought me to a new level producing wise.
Cheers Kieran :)
MANNN TY SO MUCH FOR THE TUTORIAL✌ BIG BIG RESPECT 🖤 I CANNOT BELIVE THAT SO SIMPLE TECHNIQUE COULD BE SO POWERFUL
I like this thought. I've watched million of tutorials over the years and no one has ever given such a simple option with kick and bass. I'm gonna try it today. Thanks!
Videos getting better and better, respect
This new style of making your videos is so much better. It really takes this channel to another level. Congratz for that. I think that despite the very useful information of your previeous videos the visual design lowered the precieved quality. You re on the right way I think.
I used to side chain the bejesus out of all kicks. Then i went down to Multi band, and even lighter multi band. This video is really great to give me the confidence to worry even less with certain masking (it can jsut be a nice blend). TRULY, thanks again Mate. I really hope one day i see you pottering around Berlin, so i can say thanks in person.
Your channel has strengthened so many concepts i thought i knew well, and taught me many new things.
This tutorial was so great, I always struggled with bass when producing
Fantastic video yet again. Thanks Oscar, Don't stop; this is incredible content!
Thank youuu this is one more little piece to achieve full and satisfying compositions
gracias Dog , always good tips for all kind of levels
I'm a beginner when it comes to music production and really in the dark about mixing. You really explained this very elegantly and clear. The storytelling analogy really helps to understand this better. Thanks!
Best tip I ever got from UA-cam by far. Gives a great starting point for fitting kick and bass, sometimes nothing else is needed. Thanks!
Needed to hear this. Thank you!
This channel is still so underated! Thanks for this awesome content
Awesome video man 😃 super useful and the edits are getting more and more dynamic! 😁🔥🔥
awesome, never thought of this. thanks so much! p.s extra tips: mixing in mono at a low volume helps balance other elements. and setting a spectrum on the master and aiming for -6db for the sub is pretty bang on
I liked the 2nd one best, there's like something "elastic" to it while the kick stays powerful. I find the same appeal as in tracks like Pablo Bozzi - Hotswitch.
yeah I immediately was like #2 is butter.
This is an incredibly simple and straight forward explanation of balancing frequency clashing of the kick(bass) drum and bass.
" In You We Trust "
Thanks so much for sharing this.
Quality content as always, thank you for your constant uploads mate!
This is by far the best low end video I ever did see in my entire music production career
I love your videos so much dude, you are an absolute legend mate
Literally never thought it would be that simple, thank you so much!!
Yeah, keep it simple. I put alot of energy and time into the sound design and capture and don't want to get bogged down in mixing. I like your approach focusing on straightforward but highly effective processing.
So succinct, so obvious when you say it. Great teaching man, so much respect.
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Thanks for the adivce!! Settings the gain of each clip right makes the whole mixing easier after!!
I use a lot the Multiband Dynamics of Ableton while mixing for compression AND expansion, but I never thought about using it as a 3 shelf filter Low/Mid/High! It will certainly make my mixing easier and better ! Awesome video again thanks
Great video! So much help and you're amazing at explaining things!
i apprecciate your editing so much :)
This is unbelievable. Thanks for the tips. So simple, yet, such a game changer. I'll be using this for sure.
FINALLY! The right explanation along with demonstrating the process. Thanks for this information. Subbed
As usual, great Oscar! Useful tips, good explanation, clear demonstration in Ableton. Thanks!
I knew when I heard the correct example that it was the "best" sounding one, but on headphones the loudest one is the most fun. Sounds that break rules are very enjoyable to make and listen to on smaller setups--but if done to the extreme, they can end up damaging sound equipment.
That's the problem with production and mixing...you're playing with raw energy.
@AD Shyn Would releasing various different mixes for various different situations be a practically-legitimate way of covering all of the bases? The pun was not intended. Surely, it's incredibly difficult to create one mix to rule them all. Could the time and effort spent in creating a "Phone Mix", "Club/Mono Mix", "Car Mix", "Closed-Back Headphone Mix", "Open-Back Headphone Mix", "Spotify Mix", "Audiophile Mix", etc. be viable?
@@thevalueofn6994 Really you want to just aim to mix your tracks to sound transparent & consistent on whatever they're played on, from little casual in ear buds to decent headphones, from "average" to good speakers; mix so it sounds as good with a subwoofer as it does without (if you don't low cut the "unwanted, often inaudible subs" in all the channels that contain them (EQ with spectrum shows us they're everywhere), it will totally mess up your balance and "frequency range", and a subwoofer (unlike average speakers, or in ear buds) will bring any "actually audible unwanted subs" right in your face (even though the same track "seems" to sound "fine" on systems with less low end range). An EQ with an analyzer (EG Fabfilter Pro-Q) will "visually show you" a lot of simple mix errors which will allow you more time to focus on things you need to "mix by ear". Throw an EQ on your master channel, look at the spectrum. Is it relatively flat, solid and loud? Or are peaks moving around like crazy with a lot of dynamic range? Is it showing way more low end than mids/highs (downward slope) even though it "doesn't sound overly bassy & muddy"? If so, you're gonna hear that on a system with more range, even if you can't hear it at home. As you mute/solo different channels, you constantly see how each one directly affects the master mix EQ readout (this way you can easily find that 1 element causing problems). I find (usually atleast) that if the spectrum on your master EQ "looks good", it will often sound good (purely EQ & levels wise) when you take it to other speakers.
Even without "often essential" stuff like compression, just some careful EQ'ing and levelling can go a huge way. I like to put an EQ on more or less everything just to "probe/test" (put an EQ on 30 channels, and 28 of them WILL have unwanted subs, even sounds with zero audible low end, EG hi-hats, or singing birds); if I can't "hear" if it needs EQ'ing, I can "see" it. I think if we rely only on "visual mixing" we could lose the ability to "mix by ear", but if you use both together, mixing INO becomes so much easier!
Thanks for this awesome guide man!
Your explanations are so clear man props
Very helpful and clearly explained topic.
Key words are really helpful and makes whole video pleasant.
I liked this clip! I usually prioritize using a side chain but I love the idea of shelving to carve. thanks for the clip!
Best advice EVER ! My low end sound so professional right now ! Thank you so much man !
Thank you so much Oscar, very valuable tutorial here. Simple, effective and stress-free!
Absolutely love your videos dude!!!!
A brilliantly down-to-earth tip. Thank you!
Very well made video as always
Good idea. I will try that today. Thank you
i love you for doing these... thank you.
Great material, Oscar. Very clear and concise. Thanks!
this video is gamechanging for me. Helps me a lot with this case. Thank you so much. God bless you ;)
that's a great technique bro. i'm gonna be trying it out!! thanks so much for the info. liked and subbed
This was great! And, as stated by others, this rings true across many genres! Thanks!
Really great video and so helpful. Love the way you explain things in a not too technical way for people like me with no actual training lol sometimes when I am talking to people and they just go OTT with the technical jargon and Im just lost. I kind of get the impression that some professional musicians really look down on untrained amateurs like myself and you kinda get a different sort of attitude or maybe its just me? idk
But this video is really helpful. Ive only really started learning about EQing the last few weeks and am experimenting a lot with it, kinda getting the hang of it now I think, really loving messing around with the automation on the EQ too especially on my bass's to try and bring them out more and also just messing with automation on the EQ too, its so cool some of the effects you can produce just wtih the EQ!! so this video has been really helpful especially thinking about the end users (if there are any lol) of my music. I doubt mine is gonna get played in any clubs but regardless of that its definitely something I feel I should be considering more.
thank you for offering simple solutions
Using these shelfs filters in tandem with a cloak room check really has made my low end sound good! Thank you Oscar!
Your contents are clear and very comprehensive, thank you
Great tutorial! Simple things work! Thank you for reminding!
Love your videos! I'm learning a lot!
Awesome! Great thanks you!
A years of practice archived in one suggestion. Really clear and simple.
Excellent perspective. Thank you. :)
Amazing information here. Very well explained and detailed enough.
Great stuff mate. Many thanks
Excellent points and bass frequencies demistified,so well explained, nice one Oscar!!
Super simple and demystifying. Thanks Oscar!
Cool, I've been working on this problem the last few days. This was helpful. I end up side chaining a filter with the kick signal. Really makes the kick pop while having insane bass at the same time.
the filter that youre sidechaining to the kick--is it a low pass filter or a high pass thats being engaged when the kick hits?
Thanks for the amazing video! Great help
So many people talk a bout mixing your low-end properly but that was the best explanation I've seen.
amazing content, as usual! thanks, oscar!
Great technique there. Thanks. And great video quality.
I haven't learned so many things so quickly in a long time. Your approach is phenomenal. I get everything you say and hear it, but it wasn't in my mixing perception. Thanks for the lesson
That's a nice simple technique, love it!
Damn! That's a golden! I will start using this tip.... much love ! Thank you!
Thank you Sir, you're a blessing
Wow! Thank you so much sensei Oscar!
Thank you for sharing!
Really helpful. Thank you!
Thanks for this, I found it very helpful!
this was actually making sence so you have your eq on master but soloing each low mid high to your master cloakroomed thank you so much for this👍
Just subbed- curious about taking your course! I have wildly awesome gigs coming up and I really want to make sure my new tracks are dialed. Thanks for all you do! ❤
so happy to find Your channel ! GOLD
Always great vids!!!! I learned some of these things through trial and error... it's cool watching it taught. I didn't even know how many others do this stuff or not lol