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  • @CitiesSkylines
    @CitiesSkylines  5 років тому +31

    Looking for more in-depth tutorials about how to manage traffic?
    - Without mods, follow Czardus' channel! ua-cam.com/channels/4-XrrKerNIEkZhxISUChqA.html
    - For a simple overview of different traffic types, watch Some Fairlife Milk's tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/3HfD7OmcHOg/v-deo.html
    - With mods, check out bsquiklehausen's tutorial series on when and how to use different transit networks: ua-cam.com/video/DNczwZK_-mc/v-deo.html

  • @josephbadams1
    @josephbadams1 5 років тому +325

    Colossal Order is their name, but Colossal Traffic Disorder is their game.

  • @chatnoir1224
    @chatnoir1224 5 років тому +160

    1:00 "The traffic AI doesn't allow a vehicle to enter the intersection if there isn't space for a vehicle on the other side" - Cities Skyline traffic AI is already 10x smarter then average human driver...

    • @david2.065
      @david2.065 3 роки тому +8

      SERIOUSLY! I was driving in Santa Monica, CA, and I saw people in traffic behind me DRIVE ONTO METRO TRACKS and wait there because traffic was pooling. My goodness people can be so dumb!

  • @Infrastructure-Nerd
    @Infrastructure-Nerd 5 років тому +175

    3 Lane asymmetrical roads don't get the credit they deserve, really useful roads. Great video 👍

    • @Czardus
      @Czardus 5 років тому +5

      Indeed! They really could be used a lot more.

    • @Josiah_Trelawny1
      @Josiah_Trelawny1 5 років тому +6

      ​@Andrew 1010 That is my biggest wish! First you set a road, big or small, then you click on the road sections and change the behavior of that particular route and the game automatically combines the other sections. You don't need more than 30 streets in your construction list, you only need 2 and the street tool in the game.

    • @josephbadams1
      @josephbadams1 5 років тому +1

      @Andrew 1010 You're asking too much of them.

    • @laurencebarnes5361
      @laurencebarnes5361 5 років тому

      Honestly for German cities at least, those asymmetrical roads are the reason why traffic is still working. We got some two+six lane combinations here.

  • @BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
    @BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 5 років тому +147

    Great job, everyone loves a bit of traffic fixing 😀👍

  • @frieza2235
    @frieza2235 5 років тому +68

    For a traffic video this certainly covers a wide range of topics. I won't zone one big industry anymore. 👍

    • @DazzBeat
      @DazzBeat 5 років тому +1

      All my industries are always on one corner of the map, yes there is heavy taffic and I only use one 3 lane highway in and out of that area, all 3 lanes full of taffic but it moves, it can be done, i play on console so I'm very limited.

    • @frieza2235
      @frieza2235 5 років тому

      @@DazzBeat you must have a good road system

    • @christancoding4424
      @christancoding4424 5 років тому +2

      If you want a big industry area, have some good highway infrastructure with ramps all over the area instead of at a single point.

    • @carlsonrodriguez5342
      @carlsonrodriguez5342 5 років тому

      What I do with an industrial area is place a direct single lane in from the main highway and a dedicated underground road towards the exit. And all the roads are one way leading to the exit.
      The only problem here is the services. Oh and I've only tried this in a small city area, not yet in a humongous city yet.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 4 роки тому

      @@DazzBeat Use multiple 3 lane highways.
      Make a route for exports, and a route for ind-com transport.
      Or use cargo trains like i do.

  • @rudrecciah
    @rudrecciah 5 років тому +62

    0:04
    Bird: *afterburners engaged*

  • @Czardus
    @Czardus 5 років тому +50

    The two videos in this short series were a lot of fun to create, and I hope they are helpful to both unmodded and modded players, as a lot of the concepts carry over into modded gameplay as well!

    • @Merhouse
      @Merhouse 5 років тому +2

      After all this time I finally know WHY you never put service buildings on main roads. You would think I'd have figured that out by now, but noooooo.... This is why I'm an accountant and not a city planner :)

  • @Cooltaha
    @Cooltaha 5 років тому +34

    Beating the traffic is the final boss in this game.

  • @tonytom5242
    @tonytom5242 5 років тому +8

    When planning a district you can improve flow by zoning properly
    70% Residential /10% Commercial 15% Office
    Have each district use proper Bus/Subway

  • @FoxDren
    @FoxDren 5 років тому +17

    Imagine how much more control you would have with traffic president

    • @willjones8849
      @willjones8849 5 років тому +2

      Ascdren yes exactly. Although it’s so annoying it’s nice that c:s leave certain features to moddeds

    • @CitiesSkylines
      @CitiesSkylines  5 років тому +15

      Although it's a fantastic mod, Traffic Manager takes a heavy toll on your computer though, which many players can't handle or choose not to =)

    • @willjones8849
      @willjones8849 5 років тому +1

      Cities: Skylines Official like me xd. I love it but the moment I activate my FPS drops a lot. What’s the launch option the disables workshop

    • @Czardus
      @Czardus 5 років тому +1

      The tips in this video as well as the road hierarchy video I did last week are useful even when using TM:PE.

    • @willjones8849
      @willjones8849 5 років тому

      Czardus yes. I think you’re so good at making vanilla CIties look beautiful even with vanilla luts

  • @flyvox
    @flyvox 5 років тому +1

    Very good tutorial! If there is one thing that gets me mostly in this game, it's Traffic!

  • @justarandomweeb3220
    @justarandomweeb3220 5 років тому +11

    I really like how czardus speak here

    • @Czardus
      @Czardus 5 років тому +3

      Thanks!

    • @bapt1
      @bapt1 5 років тому +2

      With a bit of a lisp

  • @DEmersonJMFM
    @DEmersonJMFM 5 років тому +1

    Part of my problem, despite a good 80% traffic flow, is not having the roads I'd like to use. For example, I'll used a six lane road with trees when I'd much rather have a four lane version. Roads I'd like to use don't exist and I have no idea how to create them myself.

  • @elektrotek4032
    @elektrotek4032 5 років тому +2

    Interesting thing is, I’ve been playing this game since the day it released...I’m still learning new things after watching the video.

  • @MetroManMelbourne
    @MetroManMelbourne 5 років тому

    Thank you for this excellent unmodded let’s play. This is really helpful.

  • @Jerimiaz
    @Jerimiaz 5 років тому +4

    Another great video, Czardus! Be sure to check out his channel for much more Cities: Skylines content!

  • @Nhatanh0475
    @Nhatanh0475 4 роки тому +6

    2:50 The airport needs to be wider, or else it's very dangerous for airplanes.

    • @bassdrumflextime1253
      @bassdrumflextime1253 3 роки тому

      not his fault this game is a piece of garbage

    • @Nhatanh0475
      @Nhatanh0475 3 роки тому

      @@bassdrumflextime1253 When did I said it’s his fault? I said it to Cities skyline so they could notice me and change the airport. But it’s very unlikely cause they are big Dev, not as dedicated as small Dev.

    • @bassdrumflextime1253
      @bassdrumflextime1253 3 роки тому

      @@Nhatanh0475 yeah they aren't gonna listen people have asked to fix stuff and it never happens

    • @GamingBren
      @GamingBren 2 роки тому

      The Airports DLC could be a good fix

  • @HiEnergyMusic
    @HiEnergyMusic 5 років тому

    Great video with valuable tips. *Thumbs up*

  • @alvaromf9950
    @alvaromf9950 5 років тому +2

    Hey, I have been playing with cities skylines for a bit and I've always encountered the situation when I have a three-lane highway and despite the fact that the next intersection is more than 100 units away, all of the vehicules queue up in one of the lanes

    • @josephbadams1
      @josephbadams1 5 років тому +5

      Yeah, that's in a nutshell the Achilles' heel of C:S. Traffic is clueless, and your options are near-nil. Even an advance left turn signal would be nice. Never going to happen in vanilla. Still absolutely amazing that C:S has 10 modes of transportation but not even one advanced traffic signal. Lead left turns are at your own risk, it seems. Disastrously designed traffic model.

    • @dlwatib
      @dlwatib 5 років тому +1

      Typically that happens because straight through traffic is being held up by turning traffic. Reduce the number of lanes on the destination side of the intersection until you get dedicated turning lanes and through lanes.

  • @ailithic5448
    @ailithic5448 5 років тому +1

    Lane Priority, Lane Priority... GDAMN Lane Priority and Lane Sharing.
    Stay in lane with less turnoffs ahead until you get near your turn off then start SLOWLY switching lanes.
    Let me give you an example, I have a diamond off ramp 200-300 meters away from the main highway stack interchange, there are two curves in the highway.
    First Traffic piles up on the left and right output lane because the pass through lane is using the lane closest to the ramp in.
    Second all lines converge aggressively into following the apex of the highway, vehicles will slow down and turn horizontally into traffic from lane 3 to 1.
    Cars might need to be aware of other cars around them, but every car using a single lane because its technically "faster" is a real killer.
    Some other things, whats up with all the cars making U turns, Tax's, (idk why my public transport loses money all stops are maxed???). And what the holy damn is up with the amount of traffic cargo terminals make.
    Also buses shouldn't block a lane just to turn in, and buses waiting shouldn't either.
    Also... a public transport need overlay would be super decent......
    IMO roundabouts should work out of the gate with this fix, as the cars will turn into the appropriate lane and downstep till their turnoff, instead of using one lane to make all turnoffs.
    Also setting terminals for input/output only, for industry exports.

  • @ed_goblin
    @ed_goblin Рік тому

    This is great. I've never built a city of that size yet though :D

  • @duckhorn
    @duckhorn 2 роки тому

    do you have plan to make it multiplay? and also war between players and player attack lands and see whose land function much longer

  • @Nhatanh0475
    @Nhatanh0475 4 роки тому

    paradox, can you explain why at 2:04? Why do they use the same lane? What the scheme behind it?

  • @LunnarisLP
    @LunnarisLP 4 роки тому

    Now fix a city with 20% traffic flow :D going to be rather hard without TMPE, hopefully something like this is included in the next version

  • @captainkiok881
    @captainkiok881 3 роки тому +1

    I just use one way roads all the time. Works for me since the cars literally can't turn and hence there is no logical way for there to be traffic. It isn't pretty but it works.

  • @knockshinnoch1950
    @knockshinnoch1950 5 років тому

    Great video, I really shoulda tried out those asymmetrical roads before now

  • @arsnakehert
    @arsnakehert 4 роки тому

    This game is absolutely amazing

  • @duckhorn
    @duckhorn 2 роки тому

    would you mind to upgrade AI of civil ?

  • @that_guy7617
    @that_guy7617 4 роки тому

    Could I know what map is that? Would like to use it in my city.

  • @JimmiG84
    @JimmiG84 5 років тому

    I never play without Traffic Manager PE, but it would be insanely useful if the game allowed you to change the lane arrows without using mods or fiddling with different number of lanes to try to "trick" the game into creating a turning lane...

  • @thedumgamer2046
    @thedumgamer2046 5 років тому +1

    What does the priority road button do?

    • @JortBasement
      @JortBasement 5 років тому

      it makes the road a priority road.. causing the other roads that connect to it to give way to the cars coming from this priority road

    • @thedumgamer2046
      @thedumgamer2046 5 років тому

      Luuk thx

  • @Rasselon
    @Rasselon 4 роки тому

    So helpful, thank you

  • @Hannymcfee
    @Hannymcfee 5 років тому

    I used that 3 lane road but the straight on lane is being used for left. Why?

  • @hunterlopez425
    @hunterlopez425 3 роки тому

    Does anyone have the problem when you have big road, every single damn car wants to be in 1 lane together and not using every single lane

  • @matheusjoaocorreawilliames2582
    @matheusjoaocorreawilliames2582 5 років тому

    MY BOY CZARDUS

  • @DazzBeat
    @DazzBeat 5 років тому

    The biggest problem I have is buses take way to long at one stop, if a second bus comes along then there's taffic cause the stupidity of the drives don't drive around in to the second lane.

  • @freddi1954
    @freddi1954 5 років тому +2

    I'm running a Nasa computer, can i get higher vehicle limit and citizen instances?

  • @rafaellouro3120
    @rafaellouro3120 5 років тому

    Detailed video on tip 4 please

  • @Eri1X
    @Eri1X 5 років тому

    Very good!

    • @Czardus
      @Czardus 5 років тому +1

      Thanks!

  • @ledgeri
    @ledgeri 5 років тому +7

    Novadays i see a spread of "FIX Cities traffic" videos on youtube... and these always start with "MOD, MOD, MOD, MOD, MOD,"... intead of thinking a bit.
    I saw 350k cities without traffic ai or lane changer mods, with high traffic flow... Since that traffic mods means lazyness to me!

    • @xxxrrrxxxrrr
      @xxxrrrxxxrrr 5 років тому +6

      I disagree. While its important to plan out your city in a way that traffic works without requiring mods, the traffic mods often add things that should also be in the base game. Or at least that make complete sense from a traffic engineers perspective. The base game simply lacks some very basic mechanics that these mods add.

    • @cotefabrice1801
      @cotefabrice1801 5 років тому

      I agree with both of you

    • @DazzBeat
      @DazzBeat 5 років тому +1

      That's so true, I play on console so I'm very limited. I never have taffic problems cause I understand how stupid the drivers are in the game 😂

    • @imperialsecuritybureau6037
      @imperialsecuritybureau6037 5 років тому

      ledgeri the traffic mods like TMPE actually add realism, they aren’t a chesty way of doing things since people generally want to make realistic cities. Things like turning lanes, and special traffic arrangements are made possible with TMPE, which can only be a good thing. The game will default, for example, to letting cars cross from one on-ramp to another off-ramp on a national highway if they are on the same node, but normally this wouldn’t be allowed in real life, so TMPE allows for you to change that to how it should be. You can also make times traffic lights, a feature which vanilla does not offer but which is very realistic in cities!

    • @imperialsecuritybureau6037
      @imperialsecuritybureau6037 5 років тому

      ledgeri and what’s more, there base game doesn’t have a concept of slip roads for highways, since a car will swerve into whatever lane it feels like! So the lane selectors are another realism necessity... that does not happen in real life.

  • @tablechair
    @tablechair 5 років тому

    quality content for game with good quality

  • @MyColdBeans
    @MyColdBeans 5 років тому +1

    Song?

    • @BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
      @BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 5 років тому +2

      It's from the Synthetic Dawn Radio station in game 👍

    • @MyColdBeans
      @MyColdBeans 5 років тому

      ​@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Thanks. I don't have that dlc.

    • @FoxDren
      @FoxDren 5 років тому

      @@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines a wild biffa

  • @chongjunxiang3002
    @chongjunxiang3002 5 років тому

    When the publisher secretly admit that their AI is not that intelligence yet

    • @matthew8153
      @matthew8153 5 років тому

      chongjunxiang3002
      The problem isn’t the AI, it’s the limited hardware most people are playing the game on. If he had quantum computers we could enjoy an intelligent AI.

  • @danibot3000
    @danibot3000 4 роки тому

    This music will fix the traffic.

  • @JETZcorp
    @JETZcorp 3 роки тому

    I hate the single-lane fixation thing the AI does. If there's even more than 1 lane going to the same place, they will only ever use the 1, even if it means waiting in line for 2 miles next to a clear and empty lane that goes directly to their destination (with fewer lane changes required, even!) Can you imagine, in the real world, if there were 2 turn lanes at a signal and cars were only in 1. Imagine standing in that remaining lane; just how long until you're turned to hamburger by the mad rush of cars cutting the line? 5 seconds, if everyone is sedated?

  • @cotefabrice1801
    @cotefabrice1801 5 років тому

    Dud I always do one massive industrial district. Thank you

    • @cotefabrice1801
      @cotefabrice1801 5 років тому

      Seems obvious when I think about it..

    • @matthew8153
      @matthew8153 5 років тому +1

      Côté Fabrice
      A massive industrial district can be fine if you have a proper highway system going around and through it (and you keep it in a separate location from your other districts).

    • @cotefabrice1801
      @cotefabrice1801 5 років тому

      Matthew yeah I have to practice my skills in highway planning

  • @bapt1
    @bapt1 5 років тому

    Still think you should add that mod where you can tell the AI cars which lane to use, if they need to turn a certain corner. (Not sure of the name of said mod!)

  • @GustafMedF
    @GustafMedF 5 років тому +2

    Nice

    • @Czardus
      @Czardus 5 років тому

      Glad you liked it!

  • @andreagiudici926
    @andreagiudici926 5 років тому

    LOVE IT!

  • @little_foxy9118
    @little_foxy9118 3 роки тому

    Devs: Let's script traffic to use 1 lane only :)

  • @paolotoletto
    @paolotoletto 4 роки тому

    Download traffic manager on the workshop instead

    • @GamingBren
      @GamingBren 2 роки тому

      Some can’t use that mod as it takes a toll on performance. I have good traffic in my city which does not use TMPE.

  • @bool2max
    @bool2max 4 роки тому +1

    They would rather spend money sponsoring a youtuber instead of put in the work and fix the traffic. Astonishing.

  • @urbanshepherdgroup2418
    @urbanshepherdgroup2418 4 роки тому +1

    Answer: Do not build grid cities.

  • @that_guy7617
    @that_guy7617 4 роки тому

    0.25 Look at the monorail

  • @greytooth898
    @greytooth898 3 роки тому

    Why wouldn’t I want to use mods though? The game’s traffic AI sucks. It’s highly unrealistic.

  • @Failer__
    @Failer__ 5 років тому

    Or use Traffic President
    (sorry Czardus, I had to :p )

    • @Beksultan001
      @Beksultan001 5 років тому

      It's not a case if you're playing without mods or have bad framerate that causes Traffic Manager.

  • @thomasmartin5169
    @thomasmartin5169 5 років тому +2

    Funny how Paradox Interactive is telling us how to beat their shitty traffic AI instead of fixing it aha

  • @theneurochemist5267
    @theneurochemist5267 5 років тому

    TM:PE

  • @notahackusator
    @notahackusator 5 років тому

    I got recommended a Titiri video.
    Go to my latest video and see what I mean.

  • @francescolilli3108
    @francescolilli3108 Рік тому

    Minchia 90% di traffic flow

  • @StiffestNoodle
    @StiffestNoodle 5 років тому +1

    Sounds good. Doesn't work.

  • @Alex918
    @Alex918 5 років тому

    :D

  • @YAUUN
    @YAUUN 5 років тому

    That music is extremely distracting and annoying

  • @nowits2814
    @nowits2814 4 роки тому

    Nice